sure what ?
#assassination
prime void
vivid bone
sure.
gilded lark
any na lads on
prime void
I started playing sin on jan 24th
obsidian spire
im from eu i play on na
gilded lark
nice ping
obsidian spire
160 ๐ฆ
jovial kite
nice logic
gilded lark
i need a fuckin upper
obsidian spire
missing a gcd as hunter makes me want to KMS
prime void
gilded lark
at least you're not missing it as monk
however
the ultimate in shit ping
is pugging to either brazil or aus
vivid bone
what's your point @prime void
prime void
you said sure
vivid bone
so?
prime void
as in I was lying, kek
vivid bone
you feeling triggered? ๐
prime void
Not really
gilded lark
821k
prime void
That's a pretty shit thing to be triggered about
vivid bone
It is
because I didn't mean it like you were lying
I'd be saying ''suuuuuuuure buddy"
gilded lark
sure
vivid bone
Like, that
jovial kite
sure
vivid bone
sure
jovial kite
gilded lark
obsidian spire
bro
gilded lark
what the fuck am i supposed to do with 15000 nethershards
gilded lark
don't forget
obsidian spire
never invite LOL
obsidian spire
i mean azralon is by far the worst ive seen
vivid bone
nice edit Weak ๐
obsidian spire
server
gilded lark
i met like 2 good brazil players
warm parcel
Bobile โฟ
jovial kite
bobile mro 
frozen pecan
bot
gilded lark
oh and don't forget nemesis
frozen pecan
:>
gilded lark
another terrible server
jovial kite
All these servers in eu i only have a bank alt with shitton of gold
waiting for bmah ez low prices
warm parcel
Wanna buy me a zulian ๐
jovial kite
vivid bone
jezus
jovial kite
Still got approx 20m from hc boosts
gilded lark
oh
jovial kite
On kurdi servers
gilded lark
because phat loot
zealous dew
leech more!
shrewd night
Im pretending like fuck my dude
shrewd night
On the other hand, Ill do some sick deeps on doggos 
gilded lark
tbh i have no idea what ww legos do
i just know what the bis ones are
and i think one of them makes lightning hurt more
shrewd night
Mine just makes me able to use my fist on another target within five seconds
So its multitarget only
warm parcel
๐
zealous dew
lol
shrewd night
Monks touching their enemies for sick damage.
Id rather make it say fisting their enemies.
midnight latch
touch the fist ๐ค
jovial kite
fist of death 
vivid bone
I like my monk, ilvl 930 and already simming near 1.5mil
strange python
Does anyone know where i can find a person to make me a cool thumbnail + transparent image of my Rogue for my twitch channel? 
safe matrix
tbh I'd just photoshop a picture of a knife onto a potato and call it a day
easiest twitch profile ever
strange python
Well funny story, i forgot my laptop with Photoshop on it, on the train xD
$1.500 Out the window kek
shy kestrel
@strange python you have renters' insurance?
late walrus
Hi, new to rogue and was directed to learn assassination first
Could someone help me on rotation/layout?
jovial kite
Boy oh boy
midnight latch
dire spoke
titi pop?
strange python
Just got my first leg, is it bad or ok? - The Empty Crown
Gucci
@late walrus check pinned messages for guides
@midnight latch
Where do I vanish?
Before 1st 2nd or 3rd cheap shot
That's the sub rotation right?
๐ค
Better to ask in sub channel maybe:p
zealous dew
after 3rd to have another cheap shot
strange python
Thanks shan
zealous dew
yw
strange python
Whitenames ๐คฆ
dire spoke
tacit ferry
you got me good w/ that one
jovial kite
Wheres the cheapshot?
strange python
There are 3
jovial kite
@midnight latch should know
strange python
I asked but no response
jovial kite
rip sweet cheapshot prince
strange python
Probably calculating best place in rotation to vanish ๐ค
dire spoke
also for sin https://snag.gy/C4x3Ml.jpg
midnight latch
you vanish after the first dance runs out
late walrus
this is too confusing
midnight latch
where you are at 4 cp
strange python
Ty naya
nova pagoda
if i had to dfa for sin id reroll back to ret
nova pagoda
if it was good
nova pagoda
nah i only use it in outlaw
strange python
Wat
nova pagoda
just being a dick no i dont i play sub alot of the time in m+
nova pagoda
honestly never crossed my mind to use it in m+
midnight latch
^^^^^^^^^
that is where most problems come from here honestly
or ppl ask question like "when did that change"
be creative my dude
nova pagoda
i think im still scard from it from maining sub
midnight latch
yeah
but I mean
what could go wrong?
worst case you stream urself doing something new
somebody clips it
safe matrix
DfA is the fuckin best
midnight latch
and everyone in here makes fun of you
safe matrix
I love it
nova pagoda
i love it but i hate it so much
zealous dew
midnight latch
nice proc
zealous dew
i'm rich!
zealous dew
sub
midnight latch
๐ฟ
zealous dew
after seeing 
i wanna play it
midnight latch
๐
crystal fox
so today im getting another essence lego, only missing ravenholdt, sephuz,boots, should i try get sub gloves or continue for boots?
zealous dew
when someone hurts your feelings and you want revenge
late walrus
I am reading it, trying to find out what to use
late walrus
they just said t15 talents are with respected builds which makes no sense to me
nova pagoda
i clicked the thing im stupid
late walrus
cause i dont know who is what
midnight latch
you can change your talents and sim what does more damage for you
shrewd oriole
A friend of mine has two amanthuls
midnight latch
at raidbots.com
shrewd oriole
Over 5 characters
crystal fox
fok your friend
shrewd oriole
How statistically unlikely is that
safe matrix
also there are two assa builds, bleed and poison
shrewd oriole
Ahaha
late walrus
alright well
I may have a rotation down
what does Vanish when garrote at pandemic and not full CP mean?
shrewd night
What it says?
late walrus
I dont know pandemic?
safe matrix
pandemic just means that you can refresh a debuff at 30% of its original durations
and that 30% will be added to the new debuff
gilded lark
that pug actually went well
did the 13, and the 15 after
rarely does that shit happen
late walrus
so pandemic is rogues version of flourish for restro druids?
gilded lark
what
no
it doesn't extend any effects like flourish
you have to recast the ability
gilded lark
it's essentially just so you don't waste debuff time
and you have a window to refresh
crystal fox
if your garrote lasts for 20 seconds, and you cast garrote at 6 seconds, it will then last for 26 seconds
late walrus
So where does pandemic come from?
safe matrix
basically for some buffs/debuffs you can overwrite up to 30% of the original duration and add it onto the next one.
the warlock debuff called pandemic
shrewd night
gilded lark
pandemic originally was a warlock talent
safe matrix
is where the name originates
gilded lark
now everyone gets it
late walrus
No I mean I am trying to find the spell
gilded lark
late walrus
or passive
gilded lark
it's not a spell
shrewd night
lmsagflknlksnhg
late walrus
or something I can read in game about
gilded lark
or a passive
gilded lark
jfc
safe matrix
its a hidden mechanics of buffs/debuffs
shrewd night
You can literally google it if you want to read more.
late walrus
cheers liavre thats what i wanted to know
midnight latch
does the guide not have an explaination on pandemic? ๐ค
gilded lark
essentially, take base duration, multiply by 1.3, that's the max duration of the debuff
shrewd night
Apparantly not
gilded lark
on the other hand
take base duration, multiply by 0.3, that will give you the max amount of seconds you want to refresh at
that's the best i can do
if that doesn't help man
idk'
shrewd night
But then again, Naya, who read guides these days. Not someone that vanish cheap shots at least 
shrewd night
Thanks, now I have that too
gilded lark
strange python
@gaunt moat is pandemic explained in guide?
gaunt moat
no
crystal fox
i need to do some serious m+ farming this week, down to 22% crit, mastery over 200% tho, and need that damn eoc
gaunt moat
it does mention when is the pandemic range, but not what pandemic means
dire spoke
Tom 
strange python
You could add it
midnight latch
I would add that honestly
strange python
Just a suggestion
crystal fox
i summon you thy ๐ฅ master @supple hearth ๐
midnight latch
waht pandemic is
sharp viper
it is partially mentioned in my how to pandemic but i could elaborate a bit more on how it works and which buffs and debuffs (from assassination) it affects and which it does not affect
crystal fox
when i first heard about pandemic i just googled it ๐คท
strange python
๐ฎ the REAL Giggleblushโข๏ธ?
sharp viper
yeah but even if you google it, most if the time people get it wrong
strange python
Yikes
crystal fox
saving arcane torrent for last energy to refresh rupture ๐
midnight latch
sin feels like a fuckin wheelchair without enough crit
2 cp mutilates
or 3
fuckin kms
safe matrix
Pandemic is the hidden refresh mechanic for some buffs/debuffs. If you refresh a buff before it fully expires, its current time up to 30% of the buffs original duration, will be added to the new one. @gaunt moat I wrote you up a quick explanation for your guide.
dire spoke
YE ASK ME NAYA NO SHIT
sharp viper
just googled "wow pandemic" and the first two entries are two forum posts asking what pandemic is and the 3rd is a completely outdated wowwikia article about the old warlock pandemic
midnight latch
dropping rupture cause mutilate cucks you
gaunt moat
@safe matrix thanks, but i'm not gonna add it.
safe matrix
aight
midnight latch
why
brisk forge
Lol
safe matrix
I'm gonna save that one cause people still ask about it all the time
shrewd night
@sharp viper I linked one of them. Still was claimed to be nourish.
gaunt moat
it's out of the scope of the guide's purpose
midnight latch
well than atleast link it
brisk forge
What is the purpose then?
midnight latch
what the fuck dude
midnight latch
which year is this
sharp viper
@safe matrix But that is wrong
shrewd night
Agree with notter, to read the guide you need some base knowledge of the game. Tbh. It isnt the spoonfeed me how shit works guide.
gaunt moat
the purpose is to be an intermidate assassination guide
gaunt moat
if i'd keeping adding more little bits about game mechanics, there's no end to it
midnight latch
honestly
safe matrix
if you do that, it'll turn into fuu's guide
gaunt moat
so you have to decide on a scope and stick ot it
prime void
i think that's an assumption
civic palm
Nah all kinds of people read it.
prime void
I think people of all scope play it
sharp viper
i agree with zempai, people who lack the knowledge are the ones who should be targeted by a guide
shrewd night
wat
civic palm
All kinds of people read some of it, then ask questions that are answered later in the guide.
dire spoke
I also read it, I meant the larger group is the lfr bois
didn't mean to offense Notter
๐
civic palm
They can check out icyVeins, and then when that fails them follow the Discord links.
gaunt moat
no offense, i'm just explaining my reasoning
safe matrix
icy veins ๐คข
civic palm
Yet I've sat here and explained things in further nuance and people have wanted that stuff in the guide.
sharp viper
people give icyveins and noxxic and such a lot of shit, but people need to get their information from somewhere
civic palm
and I've had to tell them that that knowledge has no place in the aforementioned guide.
prime void
90+ is meh
midnight latch
look at the vod weak did on thuesday where he picked apart a log
civic palm
The number of people that do no care enough to try is monsterous.
midnight latch
dude played so wierd
brisk forge
Well if you wanna do a guide but dont wanna finit correct and then refere to the guide when ppl ask questions is kinda weird tbh
gaunt moat
@brisk forge it's not weird, if that's not what the guide is intended to answer
dire spoke
sub guide also mentions pandemic without any further info, you COULD just add in a site for common used phrases and cross-link it on ravenholdt
shrewd night
Dw, notter. In my humble opinion your guide is a top3 guide.
civic palm
If anything it's good that the guide brings people to ask questions, so long they 're not dumb questions.
midnight latch
yeah but why cant there be a hyper link to a different ressource explaining pandemic
like on freakin wiki
doesnt have to be explained in your guide
civic palm
Google it, betting first link is the answer.
midnight latch
but you could reference
shrewd oriole
Google it
gaunt moat
sure, give me a link to that i can add it in the FAQ section
shrewd night
If yall going to nitpick on a guide, how bout yall write a guide ๐ค
civic palm
I stopped writing guides a while ago.
midnight latch
we refer new ppl to the guide
civic palm
Which is the reason I will defend Notters' > _>
midnight latch
I saw 5 questions about pandemic this week
viscid helm
Fuck Notter
civic palm
and sit in here to clear up misconceptions.
spare cloud
Icy Veins is looking for people.
viscid helm
๐คท
dire spoke
I think it's more of a user experience thing than quality of the text which Naya and me are going for here ๐
gaunt moat
@shrewd night it's fine to nitpick, it's good even
i understand where they're coming from
i just don't agree that it's the right thing to add, but that's just my opinion
midnight latch
and its not added cause its a intermediate rogue guide?!?!?
civic palm
Pandemic is easily explained really.
midnight latch
not gonna refer new ppl to that anymore sorry
brisk forge
I wont do a guide cuz Cba answear questions but if you do one be sure you do it fully ot not at all ๐
civic palm
I would also say that Pandemic should be known coming into the guide.
sharp viper
Are you saying that people who want to look up opener rotation know about a mechanic that is inconsistent and has lost it's tooltip over 2 expansions ago?
civic palm
Trying to make a guide that would answer every question would be an endless and ugly spreadsheet.
Bad idea.
safe matrix
btw notter I'm sorry for creating a shitfest
I was actually just trying to help by writing that quick sentence :<
gaunt moat
in any case, my guide also links to my WAs which pretty much show you when you need to refresh
gaunt moat
@safe matrix no problem, i appriciate it
spare cloud
Guys I need someone to do 2v2 with because I have no friends
gaunt moat
yes, in the FAQ
spare cloud
someone carry me please
civic palm
Yeah,
gaunt moat
Rupture
4 CP available โ reapply at 6 seconds (or lower) remaining on the existing rupture
5CP available โ reapply at 7.2 seconds (or lower) remaining on the existing rupture
6 CP available (DS) โ reapply at 8.4 seconds (or lower) remaining on the existing rupture
Garrote
tier 20 2set โ reapply at 5.4 seconds (or lower) remaining on the existing garrote
no tier 20 2set โ cooldown extends maximization window on ST, reapply whenever suitable without dropping```Sooooo
sharp viper
only as to how to use it and it is being named "how to pandemic"
prime void
when that is given
safe matrix
I get why you don't want it in, it makes sense. Your guide is a how-to without being a why-to-do cause that muddles it.
prime void
like you're mongo if you can't use clues to understand how pandemic works from those timers
civic palm
Yeah, you end up knowing more than you think you know if you take the time to read things through and figure out the minor details.
If you can't do that, go get something to play the game for you.
dire spoke
@gaunt moat pretty sure there are ppl using the WA that go like, oh countdown has different color what's that oh maybe just info that it's about to fall off ๐ haha
sharp viper
รฎ
How can you know it is a pandemic indicator if you don't have any clue what pandemic is or even if you know it exists how it works and how to utilize it
civic palm
You don't need to know the word to know the intention of a design.
gaunt moat
I come from a programming background, so i guess that kinda affects my POV
because there is a trope in projects management that "you always wanna add another feature" and then the project never ends.
so that's why i'm very adament about there being a defined scope
spare cloud
You should notice that the timer is suddenly longer than the duration noted in the tooltip
dire spoke
there is a thing called โ dumbest assumable user โ
civic palm
Oh the text went from white to red/yellow/green/etc., should be a hint that something needs to be done.
sharp viper
It's not about knowing the word it's about knowing why the design changes, as zempai mentioned it could just be a warning that the debuff is about to fall off
civic palm
and honestly if you are refreshing at 1 second you are fine.
sharp viper
true
civic palm
Even a warning is enough to get the desired reaction from the user.
Hey this is red or glowing or whatever, do something about it.
gaunt moat
@dire spoke i think that applies when you want your product to reach the widest population possible to gain as much revanue... which i don't think applies here ๐
civic palm
and if you ever have to write a guide about anything, scope and intention come right after Topic.
spare cloud
It is green, that means it is good for me to keep it like that lets buff fall off
sharp viper
If you don't know why it glowing, it is hard to do something about the unknown
civic palm
There's 2 things you can do.
Nothing, refresh.
The chance of someone doing nothing after something has changed like that is low.
gaunt moat
okay, like real talk, how many people have asked what pandemic is?
what? 2 a month?
civic palm
In 2 months?
dire spoke
@gaunt moat fair enough hahah
civic palm
I have defined it twice.
gaunt moat
no, like two people each month
midnight latch
I can show you mom
gaunt moat
i think that's acceptable
civic palm
Totally.
Well within margins.
I don't even mind answering it because the mechanic is fucking stupid.
gaunt moat
ever since i published it, i barely got asked that question
civic palm
haha
safe matrix
It's very interesting to see your perspective on this notter.
civic palm
Well that's because there's literally a FAQ explaining it.
brisk forge
Well a guide can end Ofc but explaning the ground rules is #1 in guides to eliminate crazy questions from every Rogue that is lazy and those are the ones that use guides
civic palm
I doubt the people that I have had to answer on Pandemic read the guide.
dire spoke
rabbit thoughts 
midnight latch
since start of this year
january first
i have about 25 questions
waht pandemic is
civic palm
Even once a day is fine for explaining Pandemic, because again, it 's explained nowhere by Blizzard.
shrewd night
@gaunt moat Nitpicking is fine, continuing to harp on it when the writer vocally disagrees is something else, in my opinion anyways.
sharp viper
the FAQ is stating how to use it, not as to why
gaunt moat
And the questions that i DO get asked, are way worst
i usually get asked questions that are litteraly answered plainly
like "should i envenom at 4?" or "should i use envenom or rupture after vanish"
i get those constantly
civic palm
FoK on 4CP right?
midnight latch
they also ask what pandemic time is on rupture or garrote which is explained in the guide...
civic palm
Exactly
dire spoke
or add a highlighted note on the guide's first tab this is not meant to be a beginners guide, google phrases and meanings blabla
midnight latch
๐คท
civic palm
We don't have a polling system to figure out if people have read the guide.
Nor whether they have retained the information within the guide.
I'd rather people come here than Google if frankly.
sharp viper
isn't there a disclaimer waver you have to click away when you first join ravenholdt?
midnight latch
We need to make them take an exam at the end of the guide ๐ค
shrewd night
gaunt moat
lol, i wish
shrewd night
We wish right
brisk forge
So better do not answear it here and just guide them to the guide. I mean i see alot of rude answears from the "cool guys". O mean dont answear if you dont have any nice to say
modest wind
it's really easy
dire spoke
๐ exam
civic palm
People don't read the entire guide before questioning it, disclaimers are useless.
safe matrix
Whenever I direct someone to fuu's guide and they don't talk for like 15 minutes I cry tears of joy, because that means they're reading it and I have less to explain ๐
modest wind
you can just hide a passcode somewhere in the guide
and then you PM the code to a bot which flags you as a Guide Reader
shrewd night
@brisk forge Ask stupid questions, get stupid answers ๐คท
modest wind
the system is foolproof
civic palm
Also, if you ask questions that are answered in the guide...
and I know it.
Cause I fucking proofread it...
gaunt moat
you then have to solve an esacpe room with the information you've learned
civic palm
you're gonna get some stinkeye.
safe matrix
tbh though assassination is a channel of memers which I fucking love
but some people get turned off by that
๐คท
modest wind
it is quite literally toxic
spare cloud
What do you expect from assa rogues
civic palm
Pfffft stay around longer, this place is a fucking haven.
spare cloud
to not be toxic?
sharp viper
gaunt moat
If you think this channcel is toxic, i think you have never been in an online chat before..
civic palm
or even some other Discords.
broken kettle
assassination is pretty mild compared to most class discords
sharp viper
Taking note about this discord for the next AMR, better watch what you guys are writing
civic palm
Let alone random chats.
safe matrix
I didnt call it toxic, I called it a chnnel of memers
brisk forge
Well that dosent make it right?
shrewd night
STFU ZEPHAH 
compact lodge
spare cloud
Assa rogue is not about the class, it's a lifestyle you have to embrace
shrewd night
Am I doing it right?
broken kettle
first of all how dare you
dire spoke
join feminism chat as male 
civic palm
@spare cloud We sit in a sewer drowning ourselves in liquor and gambling.
safe matrix
Personally I fucking love this channel, its damn entertaining
gaunt moat
what people consider "toxic" here, is when they asked a question that is asked 20 times a day, in a dumb way, and then they get mad when they don't get answered after 0.17 seconds, and start insulting others.
i see that. all the time.
safe matrix
and I love all of you ๐
modest wind
i have a question
civic palm
or if someone asks me why WoWProgress doesn't update every time they hit F5.
and then fail to except the answer.
shrewd night
I meme everyone asking pinned questions. Its how I distract myself from the noose hitched to my bookshelf.
shrewd night
Dispatch was cool in wod, what you on about
civic palm
Cause of the way it is.
gilded cosmos
Has anyone that has alpha access checked if Sin actually has Cut to the Chase in game? Its showing on the Calculators but doesn't make much sense to me
civic palm
What doesn't make sense?
shrewd night
civic palm
PVP talent.
shrewd night
Sounds like a PVP talent
civic palm
Movement speed matching .
gaunt moat
what is pvp? ๐ค
gaunt moat
is this a thing in wow?
shrewd night
๐ฅ
civic palm
Hasn't been since Vanilla IIRC.
night vale
Hi all, wondered if someone could take a look at my Varimathras kill last night. I have no idea what im doing wrong and need some pointers (note i was using shoulders + boots as i dont have wrists yet)
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/9g3KQCX2RpDcbztG#fight=34&type=damage-done&source=17
civic palm
Too late for me, gotta hit the saaaaaaaaaaaack.
safe matrix
So lowkey I love when people do this and post logs because then I get to tear them apart and feel good about myself.
cause usually its fucking terrible
civic palm
@night vale Simulated ST dps is?
prime void
liav
civic palm
As much as I wanna look at low %itemlevel numbers, I'd rather know what you could be doing.
prime void
Can you look at some of my logs ?
safe matrix
I know I'm terrible, that's why I gotta look at others
so I can feel validated
FeelsBadMan
night vale
@civic palm 1.949m
Thanks all for looking, i really appreciate it, just not sure wtf im doing wrong
spare cloud
Line up vanish with vendetta
at the second time, it should work out with the fighting time
but it was close in this case
civic palm
Yeah you got no damage out of your last Vanish.
gaunt moat
@night vale it seems like you have too few toxic blade casts
civic palm
So you lose by default.
civic palm
No more than a few seconds it looked like.
spare cloud
at 160 seconds in you just used rupture twice in a row
night vale
@gaunt moat was trying to hold it some times to line up with kingsbane, didnt realise i was holiding it that long tho! ty ๐
@civic palm yeah last vanish came off CD like 1 sec before the end of the fight, feelsbadman ๐ฆ
civic palm
Could cast TB 10 times and not 9.
civic palm
You really were not holding TB for too long, lost 1 cast total.
Which is still damage.
But not the end of the world.
night vale
@spare cloud so i should be holiding vanish/vendetta to line them up
spare cloud
You dont save vendetta
gaunt moat
Also, if you think yo've done bad cause you got blue ranking... you need to realize it's extremly hard to get anything better now
since the top ranks used DP snapshotting, which was hotfixed
civic palm
Looks like the second Vanish had no Vendetta in it either, damage loss.
night vale
@gaunt moat oh really, i would have presumed all the DP snapshot parses got removed
gaunt moat
nope
safe matrix
do you hold vanish for vendetta or vendetta for vanish? which has priority
actually
I'll go check the guide
night vale
@spare cloud so is there a rule of thumb for how long i should hold vanish/vendetta to line them up?
safe matrix
right now
civic palm
6 MAss + Boots puts Vendetta down to what?
spare cloud
the rule is to not lose a vanish cast
civic palm
Hold Vanish for Vendetta.
spare cloud
you only save vanish for vendetta not the other way around
civic palm
since he does not have Bracers saving Vanish for 30% does not matter.
spare cloud
Yep indeed
but thats another thing to consider once you get them
Also you kinda seem to have fallen into a pattern where you just use your finishers when you can
sharp viper
most varimathras kills are not much longer than 4 minutes so it is tough to get in more than 2 vanish, entirely depends on raid dps and if people die or not
night vale
okay cool thank you ๐ should be getting them soon, its the last leggo i need so will definitely get it next time i get one
spare cloud
don't just spam evenom just because you can
safe matrix
I think I learned that like recently, cause its more about refreshing the envenom buff right?
you really only spam it in TB/kb
right
spare cloud
for example at 213 seconds you could have saved the evenom at 218 seconds for after toxic blade and not drop the buff bot also get it into toxic blade
civic palm
Yeah clipping ENV during downtimes is the idea.
shrewd night
Id pay more attention to my kb/tb times if I had that last MA relic ๐ข
safe matrix
Yeah, I'm still somewhat learning this spec. I'm trying to multispec a bit
I need better relics though
my relics are shite
night vale
Great stuff, thank you all so much for the tips! starting from coven heroic tonight so will try and put them into practice ๐
civic palm
GL, bad fight for figuring things out, haha.
shrewd night
Practice those double ruptures yo
spare cloud
outlaw on coven because the bosses are tanked close enough together ๐ค
shrewd night
Not in my guild 
sharp viper
LUL
civic palm
IF they are tanked close together.
night vale
yeah the saddest thing is my raid dies all the time, im always the last man standing.... we got curve and half the raiders left... so we are left with not the best players... we spent 3 hours last week wiping on coven heroic
civic palm
Coven is a sticking point.
shrewd night
im always the last man standing
civic palm
Do not fret.
dire spoke
I tried sin yesterday on heroic, just can't hold 1.8 always drop to 1.5m or something 
I'm still a sub poop
civic palm
YEAH BUT SIN SO EZ
sharp viper
you should be the last one standing, rogue has insanely good survivability
dire spoke
๐บ
safe matrix
Just practice on the dummy for like 10 minutes
spare cloud
but what about warlock? ๐บ
sharp viper
tried outlaw yesterday on garothi heroic, EZ 99% log, pure skill, didnt have anything to do with procs
light cargo
fucker? is this lady a degenerate?
night vale
yeah thats true, what i mean is that everyone else dies to mechanics all the time.... swirling blade kills like all the casters and storm finishes off other people if theres a torment at the same time.... it sucks to be doing a boss and doing well to just hear "wipe it"
spare cloud
I would play outlaw but my weapon is still 932
civic palm
๐ sleeptime ๐
shrewd night
Mythic coven is fucking cool. When healing rain looks like the saving grace from storms ๐
dire spoke
@safe matrix I have CP cockblocking me often ... and my rupture timing is shite for some reason
I feel like I need to refresh super early that it doesn't fall off during KB
spare cloud
You can refresh it during kb in the end
sharp viper
@shrewd night some of our players got baited by a blizzard thinking it was a safe zone
shrewd night
LOL
safe matrix
Listen don't ping at me, I barely know what I'm doing in this spec
dire spoke
ye same haha
sharp viper
@safe matrix teach us, senpai
shrewd night
@safe matrix wats a pandemic
safe matrix
ur all being toxic
sharp viper
@safe matrix do i use fok at 4 cp?
1CP
safe matrix
I play sub for aoe fights
shrewd night
So
sharp viper
get your crit on
shrewd night
Eonar?
dire spoke
ye cba with sin for m+
sharp viper
high command maybe if you are not on pod duty
safe matrix
I'm on 3rd pod ๐ข
dire spoke
AHC with mantle an ring
safe matrix
I got a 16% pb today on hounds ๐
sharp viper
who needs skill or consistency when you can have 
๐คท
spare cloud
dedicated assa main
safe matrix
he got a 96 on garothi right before ๐คท
waxen bane
I am waiting the day poison bomb will not be RNG...
sharp viper
must be nice to rub it in someones face that you had more damage because RNGsus was smiling upon you :LUL:
safe matrix
hell yeah
dire spoke
I want john cena theme playing when PB proccs
spare cloud
happened to me back then on our avatar first kill
shrewd night
8% ackshually
safe matrix
I live to be better than other people because of luck
cause I sure as fuck dont have skill
xd
fringe bear
hey bois, was there a poison bomb weakaura anywhere?
sharp viper
@dire spoke i got a TMW that activates during PB procs and plays the boxing ring bells
sharp viper
notters WA contain a PB proc iirc, otherwise i can hook you up with a TMW group
spare cloud
that moment when you answer a question without the intent
FeelsGoodMan
I don't have Nitro
sry
faint vale
Its not like you need crazy pb rng to get legenadry rank. You only need it to get rop 10 logs
safe matrix
did he pound ur butt
prime void
yup
safe matrix
did you phase him?
safe matrix
go get em tiger
prime void
thats the goal
Ty โค
I feel like PB just gives people something to bitch about when they secretely didnt parse because they're just bad
spare cloud
I am very good player, but rng is not helping me so my logs are grey
safe matrix
"secretely"
dire spoke
we're realm first due to top guilds quit raiding 
ez
prime void
I feel like you're trolling @spare cloud
safe matrix
we basically just have midwinter on sargeras
they have both the realm first and realm second
faint vale
Insert thank you gif here
safe matrix
on their horde and allince guilds
spare cloud
Why would I troll
faint vale
Grey logs are not a very good player. You can get purple with doing mechanics and no pb fest
spare cloud
Oh god
safe matrix
yeah why would you troll?
troll rogues are terrible
berserking does nothing for us
dire spoke
Oi!
spare cloud
I am actually terrible
shrewd night
Im bad, can still pull off purples on the reg
gilded lark
my only oranges are in tank spec
being behind gear curve is aids
pulling sim dps and parsing purple
gaunt moat
It's really hard to parse orange after they fixed DP
spare cloud
I'm still 15 itemlevels behind our other rogues
prime void
you really arent fucked if you get into the content a couple weeks late
That's on you
sharp viper
the only boss that we killed and my logs are shit on is imonar
prime void
farm more m+
prime void
you can start weeks late, and be chilling
spare cloud
But farming m+ doesn't bring you 4 pc
spare cloud
So youre saying someone who started last week and doesnt have 4pc is doing smth wrong?
faint vale
Asked on wcl discord once to delete dp bug logs but never happened
prime void
istn a few weeks
sharp viper
eoc is sick, my 940 one gives me roughly 5% crit
prime void
Yeah I love my 960
gilded lark
noob
safe matrix
I got a 940 EoC, didnt sim higher than my hound trinket/panth trinket
so I traded it away
prime void
Because I have a fat EoC
safe matrix
๐ข
prime void
And will only use SSF on like 3 fights
spare cloud
I mean getting setpieces is not smth you can influence
sharp viper
you can replace golganeths with fang EZ
spare cloud
You can get extremely unlucky
prime void
see
safe matrix
FeelsBadMan
prime void
doing something wrong
spare cloud
But it still took me 4 weeks to get 4 pc
prime void
it took me
gilded lark
even i have friends'
prime void
1 raid night
gilded lark
and i'm a cunt
spare cloud
well you are lucky then
spare cloud
but it is stupid to say that because you got it on first night everyone else is supposed to have it like that
prime void
no luck involved
naw you said within a couple weeks mate
I never said first night kek
Don't be putting words in my mouth
gilded lark
or be like my raids loot council and give a guy not his 4th tier piece, but his 3rd, instead of my 4th
then get cucked for 3 more weeks
prime void
^ tat's when I dip
gilded lark
yeah my 4-8% dps gain matters less than his bag slot being taken up for another week
w/e i finally got my pieces on dk
41% haste now in frost 
gilded lark
why do that to yourself
prime void
because hes nutty.
prime void
He destroys most frosts
gilded lark
hm
destroy me daddy
tbh if my work schedule wasn't autistic i would have xferred and found a mythic guild by now
but i have no idea when i'm gonna end up working
so i'm stuck with guilds where i can miss raid days
gilded lark
or rng hates him because he mains unholy
gilded lark
feels so fucking good when 3 frost strikes give 0 runes
and belt doesn't proc
so you sit there auto attacking
shrewd oriole
kek
gilded lark
goooood times
then you get an opener where it's hb oblit/obliteration rime oblit rime oblit rime oblit
prime void
his frost gear is top tier
He just doesn't enjoy it
And we dont have a reason to make him frost
gilded lark
because it's frosty
gilded lark
i'd rather play blood over unh
sharp viper
how can people play and actually enjoy frost dk
gilded lark
you don't
you play it because it's easier
and it's better
and numbers make you smile
so you enjoy that instead
shrewd oriole
@sharp viper people say the same about assa
gilded lark
sharp viper
people say that about every spec
shrewd oriole
Yep
shrewd oriole
ahah nice
sharp viper
i still think fDK is the most mind numbing thing
shrewd oriole
I was gonna get a good one yday but my league started updating
gilded lark
shrewd night
Nah, there are like three good survivals in the world rn
gilded lark
numbing
shrewd oriole
for some fucking reason
prime void
LOL
shrewd oriole
so my game went to 1fps
gilded lark
shrewd night
Feels good when the total amount of survivals gives you an automatic 100%
sharp viper
anyone got a link to hunter discord? i think it is time for me to reroll
sharp viper
are they changing surival again in bfa or will it be the unwanted hunter stepchild?
gilded lark
1080 parses for mythic for all bosses
shrewd night
Their doing a complete revamp last I heard
gilded lark
safe matrix
wtf like every single parse is so good
gilded lark
then theres zherat
nova pagoda
are my stats right?
shrewd oriole
๐ค
safe matrix
I'm sorry tell kheraz he sucks
nova pagoda
xd
shrewd night
ecksdee
gilded lark
r1
shrewd night
so fani
shrewd oriole
ahah yeah
we stacked the bosses perfectly
and tank didnt swap
he had a field day
sharp viper
bosses were stacked for like 40% of yesterdays hc coven run, a lot of โฟ characters in there, including mine
prime void
shrewd oriole
@gilded lark : (
prime void
6p is so so so fun on that boss
gilded lark
we have 2 afflis for coven but one is kinda decent and the other is an ooker
spare cloud
You have out hozened me wicked lover
shrewd night
Doesnt kinda decent make him sound like a parttime ooker?
gilded lark
speaking of ookers
shrewd oriole
Logging on heroic is pretty aids as a heroic raider
gilded lark
unholy dk died that fight
36% ilevel parse still
and yes it is
lol
our feral was the only dps to beat me on ST, and now he got banned for 6 months
sharp viper
well if you are a hc raider you should only care about ilvl performance and not overall
midnight latch
equips 910 rings with only mastery
ILVL HERE I COME
shrewd oriole
LUL naya
midnight latch
that does not work anymore
gilded lark
midnight latch
iirc
gilded lark
Time to hit the item restore
midnight latch
tryed that already ๐
gilded lark
gotta have some 865 heroic item in there somewhere
parsed 90% overall as blood on imonar
am tank now i guess
midnight latch
did you run bonestorm ๐ค
gilded lark
no actually
midnight latch
ah imonar
gilded lark
purgatory
midnight latch
not tower defense
gilded lark
because imonar is spoopy as a tank