#assassination | Ravenholdt | Page 2581

valid moss Feb 5, 2018, 1:36 PM

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How can Assa pulls so vary in terms of energy starving. Sometimes difference between nice energy vs bad energy for me is 300k

shrewd night Feb 5, 2018, 1:37 PM

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High crit = Good energy. Low crit = Bad energy.

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🤷

valid moss Feb 5, 2018, 1:38 PM

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so besides poison bombs I must pray for good deadly poison/mutilate crits too?

gaunt moat Feb 5, 2018, 1:40 PM

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And blood of the assassinated procs

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Yes. Sin is very RNG

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Altough it doesn't look that way on first glance

valid moss Feb 5, 2018, 1:41 PM

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that just makes me depressed

vivid bone Feb 5, 2018, 1:42 PM

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Good thing it's true for all classes

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There's always a sort of RNG element to it.

gaunt moat Feb 5, 2018, 1:42 PM

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I think sin has slightly more rng than most specs

vivid bone Feb 5, 2018, 1:43 PM

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Not sure about that, but could be

gaunt moat Feb 5, 2018, 1:43 PM

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Just cause PB is way too strong

vivid bone Feb 5, 2018, 1:43 PM

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Yeah, in terms of PB I totally agree

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but otherwise, it's all the same

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PB is way too big of a difference sometimes, but if you remove that, it's pretty stable imo

gaunt moat Feb 5, 2018, 1:44 PM

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I'd be happy if they nerfed PB to oblivion.
But then it takes away from the fun of proccing it

valid moss Feb 5, 2018, 1:44 PM

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nerf PB and buff other stable damage sources

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but i doubt it ever happens, its end of expansion so nobody gives a shit

vivid bone Feb 5, 2018, 1:45 PM

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I like random, I've been playing Diablo 2 and 3 for over 15 years combined. I can handle RNG.

gaunt moat Feb 5, 2018, 1:45 PM

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It's a very hard thing to balance.
If you make a spec too stable it becomes boring

vivid bone Feb 5, 2018, 1:46 PM

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Agreed

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Blizzard knows their shit

valid moss Feb 5, 2018, 1:46 PM

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ok give me stable boring Assa i gladly take it over poison bomb pray for rank gameplay

vivid bone Feb 5, 2018, 1:46 PM

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even though it sometimes feels like they don't

quartz rune Feb 5, 2018, 1:46 PM

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Getting lucky with PB proccs on Kingaroth adds just feels soo good

vivid bone Feb 5, 2018, 1:47 PM

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Getting lucky with PB feels good, on anything really. Even random argus rares or quest mobs 😛

vestal wren Feb 5, 2018, 1:47 PM

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idk i think nerfing pb makes the spec borring

gaunt moat Feb 5, 2018, 1:47 PM

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But in terms of PB.
It's a problematic RNG since without it we have no AoE to speak of

valid moss Feb 5, 2018, 1:47 PM

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and getting unlucky feels so bad

vestal wren Feb 5, 2018, 1:47 PM

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it also makes the spec more punishing

vivid bone Feb 5, 2018, 1:47 PM

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I out aoe'd a monk on High command lol

vestal wren Feb 5, 2018, 1:47 PM

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as atm you can just have nice procs and play bad (if thats possible) and parse high

vivid bone Feb 5, 2018, 1:47 PM

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PB procs ftw

gaunt moat Feb 5, 2018, 1:48 PM

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Yeah. It's way too efficient.
I like RNG. Just not for that ability

vestal wren Feb 5, 2018, 1:48 PM

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this makes content more accessible so its nothing bad

gaunt moat Feb 5, 2018, 1:48 PM

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combine that with the fact if the target moves it is completly wasted...

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i wish they'd redisgn it a bit more than just make it hit for less and higher proc chance

vestal wren Feb 5, 2018, 1:49 PM

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idk boss design does not rly punish you for that

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you usually dont move mobs around a lot

quartz rune Feb 5, 2018, 1:50 PM

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Yeah but in m+ with sanguine or some shit..

vivid bone Feb 5, 2018, 1:50 PM

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why play assa in m+ in the first place 😄

quartz rune Feb 5, 2018, 1:51 PM

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Cause its more fun tbh and im not pushing world first keys anyway Xd

vivid bone Feb 5, 2018, 1:51 PM

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then don't worry about moving mobs 😛

arctic venture Feb 5, 2018, 1:51 PM

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!relics

chrome tuskBOT Feb 5, 2018, 1:51 PM

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List of relics for each spec: http://tc.ravenholdt.net/

gray_hounds relic sheet:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vmVwWWnNhrbzi0S_qK6emjFquyUexbTmOEov7vkRjjg/edit#gid=0

vivid bone Feb 5, 2018, 1:51 PM

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It's something you can't really change anyways, so just go with it

gaunt moat Feb 5, 2018, 1:52 PM

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@vivid bone cause i like playing assassination :X

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in any case

vivid bone Feb 5, 2018, 1:52 PM

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Yeah me too

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I play assa 100% too

gaunt moat Feb 5, 2018, 1:52 PM

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the thing about PB as a talent

vivid bone Feb 5, 2018, 1:52 PM

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But I understand some things are better and some things are worse for the spec

gaunt moat Feb 5, 2018, 1:52 PM

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is that they want to keep the left side talent as "passives" that are easy for new players.

vivid bone Feb 5, 2018, 1:52 PM

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I mean, I love ST damage, but I understand AoE is sometimes really fucked

gaunt moat Feb 5, 2018, 1:52 PM

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so that's why there's not much chance to redisgn

vivid bone Feb 5, 2018, 1:53 PM

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and assa has really great ST damage in my experience

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even without lucky PB procs 😛

gaunt moat Feb 5, 2018, 1:54 PM

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yeah, but then agian, so does subtlety... so it would be nice if they could tell us if one spec is suposed to be AoE and one ST
or they are just different playstyles

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and if they are, then why does sin's aoe has to suffer

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and sub's ST doesn't

vivid bone Feb 5, 2018, 1:54 PM

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Myeah, you got a point

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sub is horrible to play though imo

amber quail Feb 5, 2018, 1:55 PM

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I did suggest to put PB as ulti

gaunt moat Feb 5, 2018, 1:55 PM

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yeah but DFA is gone in next expansion

vivid bone Feb 5, 2018, 1:55 PM

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I mean, DFA is the only reason sub is doing so well right now correct?

gaunt moat Feb 5, 2018, 1:55 PM

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yeah, mainly

vivid bone Feb 5, 2018, 1:55 PM

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Like, it's the best sub talent in that row

amber quail Feb 5, 2018, 1:56 PM

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More controllable as dmg and when to use

vivid bone Feb 5, 2018, 1:56 PM

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Also very boring, since it's all about one ability

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But then again, just my opinion

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I'm curious how they are going to balance things in BfA and how they gonna deal with the removal of the artifacts

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I'm not worried though

quartz rune Feb 5, 2018, 1:58 PM

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The important stuff will most likely just be new passives i think. And all the dmg improvements will be removed (maybe) as they want tune numbers down anyway

strange python Feb 5, 2018, 1:59 PM

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Do you guys sim lower since the last patch?

haughty harness Feb 5, 2018, 1:59 PM

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I'll be sad if they remove the crimsom vial trait >:U

vapid moth Feb 5, 2018, 1:59 PM

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Why would we?

vestal wren Feb 5, 2018, 1:59 PM

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sub mfd would be compatitive without bracers nerf

pliant yacht Feb 5, 2018, 1:59 PM

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EOC best st sin trinket atm?

vivid bone Feb 5, 2018, 2:00 PM

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Sim it

strange python Feb 5, 2018, 2:00 PM

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I was at 2200k the whole time but now I'm just 2046k despite changing nothing

vivid bone Feb 5, 2018, 2:00 PM

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Although, it's up there

pliant yacht Feb 5, 2018, 2:00 PM

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sims highest but i have bad other options 😦

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cool, thx

vivid bone Feb 5, 2018, 2:00 PM

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If it sims highest, then use it 😉

vapid moth Feb 5, 2018, 2:00 PM

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Changed the number of pantheon trinkets?

narrow berry Feb 5, 2018, 2:01 PM

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Hi got a question, sry about my english, as assa i actually use shoulders and boots in mm+ (i got sephuz and cloack too) but should i use the cloack instead of boots for up my aoe dps ? Thank you for reading me

shrewd night Feb 5, 2018, 2:01 PM

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hoboi

strange python Feb 5, 2018, 2:01 PM

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I saw people on the forum complaining about lower sims, just baffled to experience the same

vapid moth Feb 5, 2018, 2:01 PM

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Nope. Cloak is ass got sin

vivid bone Feb 5, 2018, 2:01 PM

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Sim it @narrow berry

vapid moth Feb 5, 2018, 2:02 PM

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Wtf Sims won't tell you which leggo is more beneficial for non boss shit. Stfu

vivid bone Feb 5, 2018, 2:02 PM

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It will give you a decent estimation

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If you select the right sim

vapid moth Feb 5, 2018, 2:02 PM

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Completely disagree

shrewd night Feb 5, 2018, 2:02 PM

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toxic

vivid bone Feb 5, 2018, 2:02 PM

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You can turn down the fight time, and turn up the number of enemies

narrow berry Feb 5, 2018, 2:03 PM

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For dungeon with this affix i see my fok are 4th dmg on overall so thats why i ask

vivid bone Feb 5, 2018, 2:03 PM

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Even if it's hard to sim, it's also hard for us to answer

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we don't know anything about his gear otherwise

vapid moth Feb 5, 2018, 2:03 PM

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Yes let me test anything ranging from 15 seconds to one minute and 2 ads to 10

strange python Feb 5, 2018, 2:04 PM

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But how can the boots be better on aoe than the cloak? just in a general sense?

pliant yacht Feb 5, 2018, 2:04 PM

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remember you wont gt empowerd stacks of it oftn if your using it often

vivid bone Feb 5, 2018, 2:04 PM

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We don't know if his other gear pieces are good replacements for the legendaries

shrewd night Feb 5, 2018, 2:04 PM

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And yet it gives clear advice instead of anecdotal and personal opinions 🤔

winged parrot Feb 5, 2018, 2:04 PM

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What should you use generally in mythic+ (6 mob pulls) back or wrist?

pliant yacht Feb 5, 2018, 2:04 PM

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wrist in general

narrow berry Feb 5, 2018, 2:04 PM

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Im tired to wait pb so thats why im asking here

vapid moth Feb 5, 2018, 2:04 PM

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If he has the shoulders. Chances are it's best. Definitely better than the cloak

winged parrot Feb 5, 2018, 2:04 PM

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With mantle obviously..

vivid bone Feb 5, 2018, 2:04 PM

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I still think you can sim it all

winged parrot Feb 5, 2018, 2:05 PM

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Not really

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Theres no 30 sec iteration

vivid bone Feb 5, 2018, 2:05 PM

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Maybe not with raidbots

narrow berry Feb 5, 2018, 2:05 PM

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Yeah but advices r good too

vivid bone Feb 5, 2018, 2:05 PM

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But you can also sim on your own pc, with simulationcraft

jovial kite Feb 5, 2018, 2:05 PM

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you can sim for 1 sec if you wish

vivid bone Feb 5, 2018, 2:05 PM

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more options

vapid moth Feb 5, 2018, 2:05 PM

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Yes let me go pull new code out my ass to test it all

jovial kite Feb 5, 2018, 2:05 PM

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what

vivid bone Feb 5, 2018, 2:05 PM

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Wow, so toxic

jovial kite Feb 5, 2018, 2:05 PM

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??

shrewd night Feb 5, 2018, 2:06 PM

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At least we figured the green name is no longer a badge of honor

jovial kite Feb 5, 2018, 2:06 PM

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if you are incompetent quit bitching

quick talon Feb 5, 2018, 2:06 PM

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💦

jovial kite Feb 5, 2018, 2:06 PM

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and get learning

shrewd night Feb 5, 2018, 2:06 PM

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But rather a badge of 🎸

jovial kite Feb 5, 2018, 2:06 PM

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its not like simulating for 1 sec is hard to do

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just like reading pins isnt hard to do

vivid bone Feb 5, 2018, 2:06 PM

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It's not 🚀 science

shrewd night Feb 5, 2018, 2:06 PM

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Apparantly it is

vivid bone Feb 5, 2018, 2:06 PM

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Man, if I can do it

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I have like 2 braincells

winged parrot Feb 5, 2018, 2:07 PM

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Idk who you are referring to but I wasn't bitching at all

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Just asked sth

jovial kite Feb 5, 2018, 2:07 PM

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the guy who apparently finds it hard to pull a code out his ass

winged parrot Feb 5, 2018, 2:07 PM

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oh right

jovial kite Feb 5, 2018, 2:07 PM

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implying its a hard thing to do

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when in reality its not

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just like reading pins isnt

shrewd night Feb 5, 2018, 2:07 PM

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The answer to your question @narrow berry , is to confer with sims - or ask Xaethron because he is our divine oracle when it comes to item upgraeds.

narrow berry Feb 5, 2018, 2:07 PM

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Sry to ask again but still got no answer ^^ cloack or boots for key ? :)

crystal fox Feb 5, 2018, 2:07 PM

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for 🥄 sake, stop 🥄ing arguing every 🥄ing day

worthy thistle Feb 5, 2018, 2:07 PM

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Cloak bis for 1 pack each m+

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=bis lego

narrow berry Feb 5, 2018, 2:08 PM

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Ok ty

vivid bone Feb 5, 2018, 2:08 PM

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lol

narrow berry Feb 5, 2018, 2:08 PM

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Should i replace boots or shoulder for use ?

shrewd night Feb 5, 2018, 2:08 PM

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Boots

worthy thistle Feb 5, 2018, 2:08 PM

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No cloak is actually bad I was joking

narrow berry Feb 5, 2018, 2:08 PM

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..

shrewd night Feb 5, 2018, 2:08 PM

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If anything

jovial kite Feb 5, 2018, 2:09 PM

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i use cloak boots bracers and shoulders

narrow berry Feb 5, 2018, 2:09 PM

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How can it be bad this week guys

worthy thistle Feb 5, 2018, 2:09 PM

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For real tho it's good first pack each m+ with shoulders, then switch it out after that pack and never guess it again

narrow berry Feb 5, 2018, 2:09 PM

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Fok r 4th dmg

shrewd night Feb 5, 2018, 2:09 PM

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Fok isnt what deals damage tho

worthy thistle Feb 5, 2018, 2:09 PM

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But cloak doesn't do shit when ur spamming fok

narrow berry Feb 5, 2018, 2:09 PM

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Ok

worthy thistle Feb 5, 2018, 2:10 PM

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And yea ^ pk is the dmg which isn't tied to cloak

winged parrot Feb 5, 2018, 2:10 PM

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Switch cloak for pulls like imps after first boss in cos

vapid moth Feb 5, 2018, 2:10 PM

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It's time consuming. What he is suggesting. Simple answer is cloak is not as good as shoulders in m+

quick talon Feb 5, 2018, 2:10 PM

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that wasnt the question

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at all

shrewd night Feb 5, 2018, 2:10 PM

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That was never part of the question, are you artistic?

vapid moth Feb 5, 2018, 2:10 PM

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Why must we Sim for something we can already reasonable guess

winged parrot Feb 5, 2018, 2:10 PM

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I asked whats better between cloak and wrists

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Generally

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on 6 pulls

shrewd night Feb 5, 2018, 2:11 PM

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And Blacktorn asked what was better between cloak and boots

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If you are going to be a toxic artistic, maybe read the actual questions first

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🤔

quick talon Feb 5, 2018, 2:11 PM

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🎸 🎷

narrow berry Feb 5, 2018, 2:11 PM

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Ok and do you know if its ok to v1nish on big pack when pb tick at start with shoukders guys ? :)

worthy thistle Feb 5, 2018, 2:12 PM

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How is equipping cloak before each m+ and click ur main set after first pull time consuming 🤔

winged parrot Feb 5, 2018, 2:12 PM

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If you wanna pad

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Why not

narrow berry Feb 5, 2018, 2:12 PM

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For the 100% crit

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It work and pb ?

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On

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Sry

crystal fox Feb 5, 2018, 2:13 PM

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yes

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100% crit on poison bomb is love

narrow berry Feb 5, 2018, 2:13 PM

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Nice

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If its not going To delay my opener on boss worth it To do it ?

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Ty for all your answers

midnight latch Feb 5, 2018, 2:15 PM

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🤗

winged parrot Feb 5, 2018, 2:15 PM

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I'd rather burn vanish for a big pull than opener

shrewd night Feb 5, 2018, 2:16 PM

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Go away Naya

jovial kite Feb 5, 2018, 2:16 PM

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@shrewd night ZULUL

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👌🏽

midnight latch Feb 5, 2018, 2:17 PM

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@shrewd night rude

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😾

shrewd night Feb 5, 2018, 2:18 PM

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top3 memes being made right here

crystal fox Feb 5, 2018, 2:18 PM

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📎 evry.jpg

strange python Feb 5, 2018, 2:24 PM

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hi guys, do you have any resources other than ravenhold's guide ? I think i'm doing things wrong / I have some specific questions

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if anyone has some times for me tho ::D

crystal fox Feb 5, 2018, 2:25 PM

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are you saying ravenholdt is wrong?

strange python Feb 5, 2018, 2:25 PM

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NEVER

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But I don't find my answers ahah

shrewd night Feb 5, 2018, 2:25 PM

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Ask the questions

zealous dew Feb 5, 2018, 2:25 PM

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@viscid helm

shrewd night Feb 5, 2018, 2:25 PM

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though Ill be pretty fucking snappy if they can be answered in the guides

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Although we do have our divine oracle for such things

strange python Feb 5, 2018, 2:26 PM

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Finishing my HC antorus then I'll come back to you then ! (and prepared ahah)

warm parcel Feb 5, 2018, 2:26 PM

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Hes trying to delay

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Dont be fooled

viscid helm Feb 5, 2018, 2:26 PM

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What

shrewd night Feb 5, 2018, 2:26 PM

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Probably reading the guide like five times beforehand

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But thats the way it should be!

warm parcel Feb 5, 2018, 2:27 PM

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😗

zealous dew Feb 5, 2018, 2:27 PM

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someone needs your help

exotic glen Feb 5, 2018, 2:27 PM

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at least hes making an effort

shrewd night Feb 5, 2018, 2:27 PM

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^

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Exactly

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@zealous dew Dont be fooled, thats not the real flowi

crystal fox Feb 5, 2018, 2:28 PM

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the real flowi has been silenced by 'the ones in charge'

zealous dew Feb 5, 2018, 2:29 PM

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he's

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i PMed him and got the reply: f0k 0ff

warm parcel Feb 5, 2018, 2:29 PM

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Naa

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Real flowi would still have a pic of the glorious alacrity

shrewd night Feb 5, 2018, 2:30 PM

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Can we report Notter for religious censorship?

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Refusing Flowi to spread the word about our lord and saviour Alacrity

spice frost Feb 5, 2018, 2:31 PM

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Hey, anyone who’s smarter than me that can maybe tell me what I’m doin wrong on mythic Vari? I’m not doing terribly but I feel like I’m missing about 150k for a ST fight and usually can get a lot better parses than my 3 Vari kills. https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/nhL9tRNTYyKGAHXC#fight=26&type=damage-done&source=24

vivid bone Feb 5, 2018, 2:32 PM

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PB is only 7.44% of your damage

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I suggest upping that

strange python Feb 5, 2018, 2:32 PM

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I was not joking (https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/QnVaz1FJqL7ptTmY) ahah

crystal fox Feb 5, 2018, 2:32 PM

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yup proc more PB

jovial kite Feb 5, 2018, 2:32 PM

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what the

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heck

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is this bamboozle

shrewd night Feb 5, 2018, 2:33 PM

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French client

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😬

vivid bone Feb 5, 2018, 2:33 PM

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I won't click it then

shrewd night Feb 5, 2018, 2:33 PM

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When the french lady sings its time to head home

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Toodles!

vivid bone Feb 5, 2018, 2:34 PM

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fat lady right?

shrewd night Feb 5, 2018, 2:34 PM

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Not in this case

midnight latch Feb 5, 2018, 2:34 PM

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weak that slut

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handing out kisses

shrewd night Feb 5, 2018, 2:34 PM

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Its 2018, cant fatshame like that

midnight latch Feb 5, 2018, 2:34 PM

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like its nothing

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wew

vivid bone Feb 5, 2018, 2:34 PM

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frenchshame then

shrewd night Feb 5, 2018, 2:34 PM

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Better be racist haHAA

vivid bone Feb 5, 2018, 2:34 PM

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you're labeled a racist anyways

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no matter what

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@gaunt moat

zealous dew Feb 5, 2018, 2:36 PM

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ban inc

crystal fox Feb 5, 2018, 2:36 PM

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wow

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shameless promoting

midnight latch Feb 5, 2018, 2:36 PM

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I watched some dudes playing an adventure game
and there was a note by a french girl
and somehow the narrator read it with a french accent
?????????????????????????????

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lmao ensued

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my english fuckin sucks today

zealous dew Feb 5, 2018, 2:41 PM

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try in French

midnight latch Feb 5, 2018, 2:42 PM

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mondieu

strange python Feb 5, 2018, 2:42 PM

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Omlette du fromage

midnight latch Feb 5, 2018, 2:42 PM

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du frostmage

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pls

zealous dew Feb 5, 2018, 2:42 PM

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!mage

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oh come on...

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📎 99f5ed8d835f62ffaaf15caec213e60955df12ab0d3aac55213af7698c58f2ba.png

ancient sonnet Feb 5, 2018, 2:47 PM

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only afflocks arent allowed to complain

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oh and ww monks too

manic vigil Feb 5, 2018, 2:48 PM

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👀

dire spoke Feb 5, 2018, 2:49 PM

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hmm

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https://snag.gy/3TRKGQ.jpg

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keep mastery, or take MAlch

ancient sonnet Feb 5, 2018, 2:50 PM

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surely ttw/malch is the best

zealous dew Feb 5, 2018, 2:51 PM

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if they only invented 5+ Targets simulations for m+

dire spoke Feb 5, 2018, 2:51 PM

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funny thing the NLC string says it's weaker 😄

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good thing I simmed 👺

ancient sonnet Feb 5, 2018, 2:51 PM

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but 2MA is bad isnt it?

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1MA or 3MA, never 2MA

dire spoke Feb 5, 2018, 2:51 PM

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I have 3MAss with both

ancient sonnet Feb 5, 2018, 2:52 PM

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rn im running 3MA/2MAlch and 1 strangler relic which needs to go

lone junco Feb 5, 2018, 2:52 PM

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@zealous dew I just started doing hectic add cleave 1min. should prob be 30sec, but would need to use advanced and im too lazy for that.

zealous dew Feb 5, 2018, 2:53 PM

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m+ packs last like 10-12s

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maybe 15

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(this week)

lone junco Feb 5, 2018, 2:53 PM

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here. mastery 114 vers 54 crit 34 Haste 4

zealous dew Feb 5, 2018, 2:53 PM

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yep

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double M trinket when glaives down

lone junco Feb 5, 2018, 2:54 PM

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Rip PK btw.

zealous dew Feb 5, 2018, 2:54 PM

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proud 7/7

lone junco Feb 5, 2018, 2:54 PM

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that was so nice to have on demand hit.

zealous dew Feb 5, 2018, 2:54 PM

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was in a lower 21 last night and i think i got 4m overall

lone junco Feb 5, 2018, 2:54 PM

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in shoulder

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nice

zealous dew Feb 5, 2018, 2:54 PM

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including a stupid wipe on moroes because you know, moroes

ancient sonnet Feb 5, 2018, 2:54 PM

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i just play outlaw now in m+

lone junco Feb 5, 2018, 2:54 PM

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😐

zealous dew Feb 5, 2018, 2:55 PM

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fucking whirlwind guy rapes melee

ancient sonnet Feb 5, 2018, 2:55 PM

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vanish cd reduction lets you do pretty crazy burst all the time

lone junco Feb 5, 2018, 2:55 PM

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I know about outlaw.

ancient sonnet Feb 5, 2018, 2:55 PM

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without relying on poisonbomb

lone junco Feb 5, 2018, 2:55 PM

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the thing I would enjoy is acro.

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bigger radius than pbomb

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and shiv

dire spoke Feb 5, 2018, 2:56 PM

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back to my relics bois kappa

ancient sonnet Feb 5, 2018, 2:56 PM

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did an 18 hov and on the opening pull we pulled all of the trash before first boss and got insta PB

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15M dps

zealous dew Feb 5, 2018, 2:56 PM

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have you ever pulled the whole moroes room ?

ancient sonnet Feb 5, 2018, 2:56 PM

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i have

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but it dies waaaaay to fast

zealous dew Feb 5, 2018, 2:56 PM

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3+2+2 arcanist + 4 tables

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that was fun

ancient sonnet Feb 5, 2018, 2:56 PM

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ive did that as arcane mage

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thats way more borked

zealous dew Feb 5, 2018, 2:57 PM

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now do it as a lock 😄

ancient sonnet Feb 5, 2018, 2:57 PM

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arcane burst aoe >>>>>>

zealous dew Feb 5, 2018, 2:57 PM

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half fps

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40m dps

ancient sonnet Feb 5, 2018, 2:57 PM

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single orb with AP/RoP is that

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terminus signaling beacon too

lone junco Feb 5, 2018, 2:57 PM

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have you ever pulled the whole moroes room ?

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lolol

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that is like 6 pulls for us

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jesus christ.

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no onder we suck

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i hate the timer. hate it in D3 rift races.

zealous dew Feb 5, 2018, 2:58 PM

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or the whole kitchen

ancient sonnet Feb 5, 2018, 2:58 PM

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kitchen? who the hell pulls that shit

zealous dew Feb 5, 2018, 2:58 PM

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i do

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i also skip maiden hall

ancient sonnet Feb 5, 2018, 2:58 PM

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wew

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thats why then

zealous dew Feb 5, 2018, 2:59 PM

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anyway if you go LK this week just take a hunter

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to trap the fecking ww guy

ancient sonnet Feb 5, 2018, 3:00 PM

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just use the ones provided by the instance

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ecks dee

zealous dew Feb 5, 2018, 3:01 PM

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no you want him trapped whole fight

ancient sonnet Feb 5, 2018, 3:01 PM

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simming 90k higher dps as outlul

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ruh roh

zealous dew Feb 5, 2018, 3:01 PM

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or melee can't dps

lone junco Feb 5, 2018, 3:01 PM

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trap ww.

ancient sonnet Feb 5, 2018, 3:01 PM

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moroes breaks all cc at a certain point regardless no?

lone junco Feb 5, 2018, 3:01 PM

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nice.

zealous dew Feb 5, 2018, 3:01 PM

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not hunter

ancient sonnet Feb 5, 2018, 3:01 PM

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rofl

zealous dew Feb 5, 2018, 3:01 PM

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perma cc

lone junco Feb 5, 2018, 3:02 PM

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see. Im so bad at M+ cause we just kill stuff.

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zero cheese. dont even use cloak.

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"bad"

ancient sonnet Feb 5, 2018, 3:02 PM

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i dont use cloak

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i dont trust people to understand stealth

lone junco Feb 5, 2018, 3:02 PM

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i watched a vid and they cheesed past 3 pulls.

ancient sonnet Feb 5, 2018, 3:02 PM

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they just walk through mobs like 'im invisible right?'

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chimps

zealous dew Feb 5, 2018, 3:02 PM

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what about hov pull all before 1t boss ? 😃

lone junco Feb 5, 2018, 3:02 PM

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when they died to a boss, they just abandoned the key

zealous dew Feb 5, 2018, 3:02 PM

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mass grip on dragon

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then kite

lone junco Feb 5, 2018, 3:03 PM

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dont run dk or dh

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mass grip rip

zealous dew Feb 5, 2018, 3:03 PM

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lulz

ancient sonnet Feb 5, 2018, 3:03 PM

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run blood elf

lone junco Feb 5, 2018, 3:03 PM

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druid and pally

ancient sonnet Feb 5, 2018, 3:03 PM

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dont need aoe grips then

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pala can do it too, avengers shield silence

lone junco Feb 5, 2018, 3:03 PM

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not the same

ancient sonnet Feb 5, 2018, 3:03 PM

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it isnt

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but its better than nothing

lone junco Feb 5, 2018, 3:03 PM

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i ran with a dk and watched him pull 20x in arcway.

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and be top healer.

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we are doing it wrong.

ancient sonnet Feb 5, 2018, 3:03 PM

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thats dk

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im not sure if i like dk or dh more

lone junco Feb 5, 2018, 3:04 PM

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only benefit from ppal is the silence on foritifed trash. he gets like 4/5

ancient sonnet Feb 5, 2018, 3:04 PM

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and seraphim dps

zealous dew Feb 5, 2018, 3:06 PM

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dh is more mobile and has more utilities

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dk just never dies

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group leech

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15s every 45s

ancient sonnet Feb 5, 2018, 3:06 PM

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group leech is vv nice yea

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dh doesnt die either if they play well

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spirit bomb healing is absurd

zealous dew Feb 5, 2018, 3:07 PM

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yeah but they're bit more spiky

ancient sonnet Feb 5, 2018, 3:07 PM

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ya thats true too

zealous dew Feb 5, 2018, 3:07 PM

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both good though

lone junco Feb 5, 2018, 3:07 PM

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is hpal still the best 5man heal?

ancient sonnet Feb 5, 2018, 3:07 PM

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i wanna say disc

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but i could be wrong

lone junco Feb 5, 2018, 3:07 PM

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i started working on mine. did some runs, and it was pretty simple.

ancient sonnet Feb 5, 2018, 3:07 PM

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disc actually requires a brain to play

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unlike hpala/rdruid

lone junco Feb 5, 2018, 3:08 PM

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and a disc

zealous dew Feb 5, 2018, 3:08 PM

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hpala / resto druid

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disc cries on some affixes

ancient sonnet Feb 5, 2018, 3:08 PM

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^

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disc is that spec

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where sometimes it just flat out doesnt work

zealous dew Feb 5, 2018, 3:08 PM

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hpala never dies, insane toolkit

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resto druid does dmg as well

lone junco Feb 5, 2018, 3:08 PM

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and rez

ancient sonnet Feb 5, 2018, 3:08 PM

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disc damage >>

lone junco Feb 5, 2018, 3:08 PM

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im talking 25 keys

ancient sonnet Feb 5, 2018, 3:08 PM

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but disc skillcap at high keys >>>>>>>>>>>>

lone junco Feb 5, 2018, 3:09 PM

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hpal is still good there right?

ancient sonnet Feb 5, 2018, 3:09 PM

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hpala can be played with half your brain not working and still ezpz do keys

zealous dew Feb 5, 2018, 3:09 PM

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it's awesome

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but less aoe dmg than rest druid

ancient sonnet Feb 5, 2018, 3:09 PM

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consecration lul

lone junco Feb 5, 2018, 3:09 PM

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nathin. I do not appreciate brainless spec comments. no lols.

zealous dew Feb 5, 2018, 3:09 PM

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if you check shakinb videos the resto pulls almost the same damage as tank on bosses / trash

ancient sonnet Feb 5, 2018, 3:09 PM

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well

lone junco Feb 5, 2018, 3:09 PM

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I was just asking if they are good.

ancient sonnet Feb 5, 2018, 3:09 PM

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i recently made a disc

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its like actual rocket science compared to anyhting else ive played this expansion

lone junco Feb 5, 2018, 3:10 PM

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if something is hard to play, to be competitive, that is not better now is it.

zealous dew Feb 5, 2018, 3:10 PM

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play resto druid

ancient sonnet Feb 5, 2018, 3:10 PM

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^

zealous dew Feb 5, 2018, 3:10 PM

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tbh it's more fun than pala

ancient sonnet Feb 5, 2018, 3:10 PM

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i think resto has the easiest time

lone junco Feb 5, 2018, 3:10 PM

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i have 120days/played in hpal.

ancient sonnet Feb 5, 2018, 3:10 PM

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bear form is actual god tier

lone junco Feb 5, 2018, 3:10 PM

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i miss the mastery bubble tbh.

ancient sonnet Feb 5, 2018, 3:10 PM

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it 100% saves your life on high keys from stuff that usually 1 shots other healers

lone junco Feb 5, 2018, 3:11 PM

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and cone req positioning, but the shock reset from cstrike is nice.

ancient sonnet Feb 5, 2018, 3:11 PM

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i think pala has the most strong toolkit for the least effort needed, that alone is a solid reason to play it

drowsy kettle Feb 5, 2018, 3:11 PM

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I feel like I'm missing something on dps besides my current legos

ripe pine Feb 5, 2018, 3:12 PM

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!relic

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!relics

chrome tuskBOT Feb 5, 2018, 3:12 PM

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List of relics for each spec: http://tc.ravenholdt.net/

gray_hounds relic sheet:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vmVwWWnNhrbzi0S_qK6emjFquyUexbTmOEov7vkRjjg/edit#gid=0

drowsy kettle Feb 5, 2018, 3:12 PM

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Only 1.1m dps

zealous dew Feb 5, 2018, 3:12 PM

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@lone junco check this guy : https://www.wowprogress.com/character/us/turalyon/Jdotb

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watch his video as resto

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he's just insane

ancient sonnet Feb 5, 2018, 3:13 PM

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1.1m dps, what do you sim tho?

gaunt moat Feb 5, 2018, 3:13 PM

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*how much do you sim, bro?!

ancient sonnet Feb 5, 2018, 3:13 PM

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dont hate me notter fam

ripe pine Feb 5, 2018, 3:13 PM

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!trinkets

chrome tuskBOT Feb 5, 2018, 3:13 PM

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List of trinkets for each spec: http://tc.ravenholdt.net/

ancient sonnet Feb 5, 2018, 3:13 PM

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if he sims 1.2 and does 1.1 then its not a problem

lone junco Feb 5, 2018, 3:14 PM

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@zealous dew have any names for hpal?

zealous dew Feb 5, 2018, 3:15 PM

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Imbanane, but doesn't make videos, only stream, Rockiegold

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Asmonbald

ancient sonnet Feb 5, 2018, 3:15 PM

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^

zealous dew Feb 5, 2018, 3:15 PM

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Kina was good as well

ancient sonnet Feb 5, 2018, 3:15 PM

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joshpriest now plays pala alot in M+

drowsy kettle Feb 5, 2018, 3:16 PM

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I'm in the wrong spec

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To sim

lone junco Feb 5, 2018, 3:16 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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lol

zealous dew Feb 5, 2018, 3:17 PM

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😄

quick talon Feb 5, 2018, 3:17 PM

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Imagine you could pay for a race change

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IRL

drowsy kettle Feb 5, 2018, 3:17 PM

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Last week I immediately for 1.15m and I pull about that

zealous dew Feb 5, 2018, 3:17 PM

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i would like to go brad pitt race

ancient sonnet Feb 5, 2018, 3:17 PM

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£200 to be korean? sign me up

drowsy kettle Feb 5, 2018, 3:17 PM

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Simmed"

quick talon Feb 5, 2018, 3:17 PM

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I'd easily chop of your dick for 10 tbh

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thats all it needs, nathan

lone junco Feb 5, 2018, 3:18 PM

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@zealous dew I never use wowprogress for M+ but i found a Protpal meta team that runs prot/hpal. so ill stalk them for a bit.

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anything they can do I can do at 65%

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lol

zealous dew Feb 5, 2018, 3:18 PM

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i don't like prot pala tbh

ancient sonnet Feb 5, 2018, 3:18 PM

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but i dont get the superior asian genes

lone junco Feb 5, 2018, 3:18 PM

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I dont have a choice. we play what we play.

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we dont run 7 alts for this shit.

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hince the stupid timer.

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+1 for completion 2 /3 for timer.

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tbh, idaf if someone solos a +30 in 72hours as protpal.

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sounds like they earned a +1 key.

patent topaz Feb 5, 2018, 3:22 PM

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I kinda want to try healing in m+ because there is only one good healer in my guild. I have a 935 paladin with most healing leggos, 920 druid with none and a 960 monk with none. I dont like druid and pala dps specs and idk if mistweaver is good in m+

ancient sonnet Feb 5, 2018, 3:22 PM

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hand of the protector is sick healing

zealous dew Feb 5, 2018, 3:22 PM

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it's stressful as fuck

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trust me

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i don't envy healers

patent topaz Feb 5, 2018, 3:23 PM

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Same but my healer went away for a week and pugging m+ sucks

ancient sonnet Feb 5, 2018, 3:23 PM

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they have the real hard job

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we just stab stuff

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tanks just get hit in the face

patent topaz Feb 5, 2018, 3:25 PM

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I play warrior, rogue and monk in m+. Nothing crazy, up to +21 or so.

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All as dps

drowsy kettle Feb 5, 2018, 3:28 PM

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I'm a mw/ww main

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Me healing is super simple

lone junco Feb 5, 2018, 3:29 PM

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@zealous dew stress is why I bailed after wod. nothing was fun. esp for arena.

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talk about stun fucked.

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SHOCK kick stun fear stun kick SHOCK

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the raid meta of movement is rough on heals as well. Mannoroth wasnt great, but archi was bad. so much to do.

drowsy kettle Feb 5, 2018, 3:32 PM

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I stopped playing mw as much since wod

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I loved it

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Uplift op

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I miss my old smoothing mist

manic vigil Feb 5, 2018, 3:37 PM

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I miss my faceroll disc priest from wod kappa

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Jump around and spam shields

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Profit

lone junco Feb 5, 2018, 3:39 PM

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we had a disc that was good in wod. turned shit as holy in legion. turns out wod disc had the ideal Easy/Effective ratio

warm parcel Feb 5, 2018, 3:39 PM

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naa

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mop disc

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Literal ♿

manic vigil Feb 5, 2018, 3:39 PM

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I went holy in legion as well

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Still owned the place ez

lone junco Feb 5, 2018, 3:39 PM

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said disc>holy only used his serenity words like every 1:30 cause he didnt want to waste them.

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I yelled. didnt matter. we got a new holy that did like 4x his heals. so he changed his style.

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15 in 4 mins.

manic vigil Feb 5, 2018, 3:40 PM

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I still think healing is easier than dps most of the time 🤷 not in m+ maybe

vivid bone Feb 5, 2018, 3:41 PM

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I feel like that if you're a bad (learning) healer, you get punished more when you fuck up than when you dps and you are low on the meters

lone junco Feb 5, 2018, 3:41 PM

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In a proper ratio / team maybe. mythic pressures are probably very high.

vivid bone Feb 5, 2018, 3:41 PM

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I tried healing a few times, and that was my experience anyways

manic vigil Feb 5, 2018, 3:42 PM

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I don't know, as a reactive healer like holy priest you can't really fuck up imo

lone junco Feb 5, 2018, 3:42 PM

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like 400 of my 500 days are played on a healer.

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i like rogue tho.

manic vigil Feb 5, 2018, 3:42 PM

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Just click stuff and heal

worthy apex Feb 5, 2018, 3:42 PM

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Hi @everyone can anyone tell me if there is a real dps difference between the talents nightstalker and subterfuge? Thanks all

ancient sonnet Feb 5, 2018, 3:42 PM

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healing becomes substantially easier once you learn how much damage everyone is going to take and when

lone junco Feb 5, 2018, 3:42 PM

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the only way they made pressure was to align movement and debuff and damage bursts.

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ye

vivid bone Feb 5, 2018, 3:42 PM

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Yeah, I was just gonna say that

manic vigil Feb 5, 2018, 3:42 PM

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That's true

vivid bone Feb 5, 2018, 3:43 PM

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So when you're learning, it might feel a lot harder

ancient sonnet Feb 5, 2018, 3:43 PM

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eg healers dont really bother spot healing me most of the time as rogue can just feint off loads of damage

vivid bone Feb 5, 2018, 3:43 PM

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since you don't know those things yet

ancient sonnet Feb 5, 2018, 3:43 PM

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i usually recieve like 80% of my healing from our rdruids hots

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get the occasional martyr if i soak something

lone junco Feb 5, 2018, 3:43 PM

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I get plenty of heals, because always top 2 dps. and execute.

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and rarely die anyway. so a good investment.

ancient sonnet Feb 5, 2018, 3:44 PM

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so its on healers to understand what the people they're healing are like in terms of mitigation, and therefore also on the dps to mitigate properly if they can

lone junco Feb 5, 2018, 3:44 PM

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dh always dies. so just let him die after meta .

manic vigil Feb 5, 2018, 3:44 PM

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A lot of healers just struggle with a proper ui and still seeing what's happening

lone junco Feb 5, 2018, 3:44 PM

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^

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its rough.

manic vigil Feb 5, 2018, 3:44 PM

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Vuhdu ez mode imo

ancient sonnet Feb 5, 2018, 3:44 PM

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its vital to have frames in the middle of your screen

vivid bone Feb 5, 2018, 3:44 PM

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I'll go try healing on my monk again, you guys convinced me 😛

lone junco Feb 5, 2018, 3:44 PM

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squares plus boss plus feet plus self.

ancient sonnet Feb 5, 2018, 3:44 PM

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dont even need vuhdo, ive healed entirely with grid and mouseover macros for a long time now

lone junco Feb 5, 2018, 3:44 PM

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grid + clique for me. but boss casts are hard to watch.

ancient sonnet Feb 5, 2018, 3:45 PM

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i couldnt imagine healing without mouseovers now

shrewd notch Feb 5, 2018, 3:45 PM

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yeah mouseovers are essential

ancient sonnet Feb 5, 2018, 3:45 PM

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especially since the healer i play nowadays is disc, so i have to target boss to deal damage to heal

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very unforgiving if you click players before casting then have to tab back to boss to cast

lone junco Feb 5, 2018, 3:45 PM

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i should just focus boss and have mod for boss shock and judge.

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ye

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w/e. rog stuff yay.

ancient sonnet Feb 5, 2018, 3:46 PM

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i have Q as penance and Alt-Q for mouseover penance if i need to heal someone with it

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rogue stuff? pray to poisonbomb and hope he is kindboi

manic vigil Feb 5, 2018, 3:47 PM

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Go for it Luke, healing feels very rewarding if your team puts it to good use

lone junco Feb 5, 2018, 3:47 PM

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My gear is set for the forseeable future. aside from 950+ eoc and proper relics.

manic vigil Feb 5, 2018, 3:47 PM

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Team players represent 👌

ancient sonnet Feb 5, 2018, 3:47 PM

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its very rare i give tanks or other dps praise

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but i often praise our healers for the good shit they do

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does using crimson vial mean im a team player

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actually spending my precious energy on something that doesnt deal damage

shrewd notch Feb 5, 2018, 3:49 PM

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i vial a lot during big healing moments honestly

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and/or feint

ancient sonnet Feb 5, 2018, 3:49 PM

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i previal stuff more than i use it for healing

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the DR is more useful than the healing

shrewd notch Feb 5, 2018, 3:49 PM

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like with a 2 stack of the fire debuff on aggramar

hoary copper Feb 5, 2018, 3:49 PM

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The thing about healing is though, eventually you hate people (especially if you PUG). Least that's why I stopped healing. People tend to blame tank and healers first even if they have nothing to do with it

ancient sonnet Feb 5, 2018, 3:49 PM

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ya times like that is incredible

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but for regular damage rarely is it ever not just overhealing

shrewd notch Feb 5, 2018, 3:50 PM

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i pretty much just use it when something sketchy's going on

ancient sonnet Feb 5, 2018, 3:50 PM

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ill use it for times when im out of range of healers or i know imma be a dumb and stand in aoe in 6 seconds

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for the dps ofc

shrewd notch Feb 5, 2018, 3:50 PM

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ye

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i run the portal debuffs on mythic too, it's great there

ancient sonnet Feb 5, 2018, 3:51 PM

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cause vial dr+feint makes you take so little damage

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i got out of that

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playing outlaw makes them realise you're a goodboi for the bottom

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we have our tank do first debuff and then our mage does second

shrewd notch Feb 5, 2018, 3:51 PM

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i do it b/c assassination does dps during downtime

ancient sonnet Feb 5, 2018, 3:52 PM

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ya you can maintain dps between portals if you reapply pandemic'd dots at the right time

shrewd notch Feb 5, 2018, 3:52 PM

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yeah

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it isn't always perfect but it's good enough

twilit lintel Feb 5, 2018, 3:54 PM

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hello everyone 😃 can any kind rogue suggest me an approximate stats format for 960 ilvl assa ? crit/haste/mastery/vers 😃

cerulean aspen Feb 5, 2018, 3:55 PM

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MAX for all

shrewd notch Feb 5, 2018, 3:55 PM

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mastery > crit/vers >>>> haste

narrow comet Feb 5, 2018, 3:55 PM

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If you pick up debuffs especially purple that blinds and your void elf you can go in the portal, turn around, use spatial rift and pick up the debuff use rift again and you stand right at the portal 😛 cool stuff

hoary copper Feb 5, 2018, 3:55 PM

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Use raidbots.com to see what stat weights are. Usually Mastery> Crit/Verse >>>>> Haste

ancient sonnet Feb 5, 2018, 3:55 PM

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bleed or poison?

hoary copper Feb 5, 2018, 3:55 PM

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For me poison sims a little higher than bleed

twilit lintel Feb 5, 2018, 3:56 PM

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i know the prio i d like to know if there is a cap for haste and basicaly % 😃

ancient sonnet Feb 5, 2018, 3:56 PM

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the cap for haste is 0%

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get as close to it as possible

hoary copper Feb 5, 2018, 3:56 PM

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You dont want haste at all, theres no caps

shrewd notch Feb 5, 2018, 3:56 PM

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you want as little haste as you can

dire spoke Feb 5, 2018, 3:56 PM

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vastery > merse dpspaghetti

lone junco Feb 5, 2018, 3:56 PM

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@zealous dew ok. you got me. Since we are almost done with the raid tier, Ill be focusing on M+ with a goal of >20 for all instances. I will be bugging you 👌

ancient sonnet Feb 5, 2018, 3:57 PM

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my weights for poison are mastery > crit=vers > agi > haste

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but sim yo self to get your own

cerulean aspen Feb 5, 2018, 3:59 PM

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all my haste is from shoulders/bracers/tier gloves

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can't get 0

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feels sad

hoary copper Feb 5, 2018, 4:00 PM

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I have the same sadly, and a haste belt that dropped that I cant get rid of it seems

ancient sonnet Feb 5, 2018, 4:02 PM

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ya you cant get 0% but the idea is you want as little as possible

zealous dew Feb 5, 2018, 4:03 PM

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sure happy to help if I can

hoary copper Feb 5, 2018, 4:04 PM

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Poison still beats bleed by 60k for me. Meh

ancient sonnet Feb 5, 2018, 4:07 PM

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outlaw beats poison by 90k for me

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snd

manic vigil Feb 5, 2018, 4:07 PM

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😯

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I'd totally play snd outlul if it didn't sim 250k lower xd

ancient sonnet Feb 5, 2018, 4:08 PM

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pantheon trinket worth like 300k dps alone

hoary copper Feb 5, 2018, 4:09 PM

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Outlaw sims a lot lower, but I havent put AP and I only put whatever spare relics I get into it

manic vigil Feb 5, 2018, 4:11 PM

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In the casual raid I'm in where I'd actually dare use outlul we are like 12ppl usually. Makes the pantheon trinkets crappy

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Who came up with that proc cluster fuck anyway

midnight latch Feb 5, 2018, 4:13 PM

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@manic vigil 👀

manic vigil Feb 5, 2018, 4:13 PM

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👻

dire spoke Feb 5, 2018, 4:15 PM

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@manic vigil heartbroken

midnight latch Feb 5, 2018, 4:16 PM

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@dire spoke 👀

manic vigil Feb 5, 2018, 4:16 PM

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:thinking:

dire spoke Feb 5, 2018, 4:17 PM

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pingu

rich wren Feb 5, 2018, 4:18 PM

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My guild apparently sucks and just has 0 aman'thuls, 1 tank trinket and 2 healer trinkets so I can't actually be a slicer dicer

manic vigil Feb 5, 2018, 4:18 PM

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We Gucci, Prada?

rich wren Feb 5, 2018, 4:18 PM

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My trinket sometimes just doesn't proc which is really cool

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Yes, of course

midnight latch Feb 5, 2018, 4:18 PM

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nice trinket is nice

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10/10

rich wren Feb 5, 2018, 4:18 PM

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Great design

shrewd notch Feb 5, 2018, 4:18 PM

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my raid's pretty short on strength trinkets

rich wren Feb 5, 2018, 4:18 PM

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Love rng

manic vigil Feb 5, 2018, 4:18 PM

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Fuck those shitty trinkets

rich wren Feb 5, 2018, 4:19 PM

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Our off tank literally still doesn't have one

midnight latch Feb 5, 2018, 4:19 PM

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@shrewd notch tell em to lift more

shrewd notch Feb 5, 2018, 4:19 PM

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🤔

dire spoke Feb 5, 2018, 4:19 PM

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#bringWoDRingBack

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#andsoulcappa

shrewd notch Feb 5, 2018, 4:19 PM

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it's like all agi

rich wren Feb 5, 2018, 4:19 PM

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An Argus kill, 11 minutes or whatever

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1 proc

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And the baby proc itself did like 0 dmg also, it's s great time to be alive

midnight latch Feb 5, 2018, 4:21 PM

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@manic vigil 🗡

solemn vapor Feb 5, 2018, 4:22 PM

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Sucks to be you i guess @rich wren

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😏

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But tell yourself that the trinket is charging to proc a lot the next time

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I know i do that

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😬

manic vigil Feb 5, 2018, 4:26 PM

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🤔

dire spoke Feb 5, 2018, 4:26 PM

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thinky

hoary copper Feb 5, 2018, 4:29 PM

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Since bfa was announced and preorder started, seems pugs are getting worse -.-

solemn vapor Feb 5, 2018, 4:33 PM

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In which dificult you mean?

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N or H?

strange python Feb 5, 2018, 4:33 PM

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Like they weren’t shit already

solemn vapor Feb 5, 2018, 4:34 PM

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Ye

hoary copper Feb 5, 2018, 4:35 PM

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I mean they were always bad, but in general even worse the last week or so. Didnt get any heroic in this week yet, but Normal was pretty bad. We had 2 people (me being one) above 1m dps on Argus. Majority was 500K or less

solemn vapor Feb 5, 2018, 4:35 PM

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I see what you mean now

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Ppl are bring the new toons to raid

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And hoping to get carried

hoary copper Feb 5, 2018, 4:36 PM

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Yea and people returning

solemn vapor Feb 5, 2018, 4:36 PM

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That sucks

strange python Feb 5, 2018, 4:47 PM

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Guilds are for carrying

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If I would start again now my guild would boost me

vestal wren Feb 5, 2018, 4:56 PM

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not nessecerly

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most guilds are for progression, the majority does not care to equip jon doe

mental aurora Feb 5, 2018, 5:00 PM

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I spent all afternoon yesterday joining pugs and lfr, hoping to bonus roll on Kin’garoth. Every group I joined wiped on the first ruiner. Without fail.

lone junco Feb 5, 2018, 5:00 PM

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@vestal wren "most"

manic vigil Feb 5, 2018, 5:01 PM

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Yeah idk friends help friends I guess

lone junco Feb 5, 2018, 5:01 PM

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we gear apps. and friends of friends.

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they get the trash loot and can catch up in a few weeks.

vestal wren Feb 5, 2018, 5:03 PM

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well it depends on your progression i guess

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the majority has not killed argus yet

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for first bosses it usually 🤷, the majority only needs forges so you can carry weight

naive cypress Feb 5, 2018, 5:03 PM

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Is hectic add cleave the goto for m+ like simulations?

strange python Feb 5, 2018, 5:03 PM

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I havent even killed the 1st boss

nimble tartan Feb 5, 2018, 5:04 PM

#

poisonbomb

lone junco Feb 5, 2018, 5:04 PM

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@naive cypress I do hectic 1min. but even that is 40s too long.

zealous dew Feb 5, 2018, 5:04 PM

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you haven't missed much anyway

naive cypress Feb 5, 2018, 5:04 PM

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ok, but it is the option at our disposal to sim ish m+ `

#

?

strange python Feb 5, 2018, 5:04 PM

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Im not gonna catch up either

lone junco Feb 5, 2018, 5:05 PM

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@naive cypress sounds good.

zealous dew Feb 5, 2018, 5:05 PM

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no clue after having wiped on eonar i lost faith in the humanity

naive cypress Feb 5, 2018, 5:05 PM

#

Cool, thanks for the quick response!

strange python Feb 5, 2018, 5:20 PM

#

i finally got nearly perfect relics 7malch 7 ma ! t2 could be better but, w/e

zealous dew Feb 5, 2018, 5:22 PM

#

perfect for what, patchwerk ? 😃

manic vigil Feb 5, 2018, 5:25 PM

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No more play? ☹

lone junco Feb 5, 2018, 5:25 PM

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patchwork st is nice.

strange python Feb 5, 2018, 5:36 PM

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yeah most fights are st for sin

zealous dew Feb 5, 2018, 5:36 PM

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😃

strange python Feb 5, 2018, 5:36 PM

#

kin goroth is the only one where i hate to save my Vendetta and kings CDs -.-

lone junco Feb 5, 2018, 5:38 PM

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like this?

#

📎 unknown.png

zealous dew Feb 5, 2018, 5:39 PM

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do you even vendetta bro

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i'm pugging HC

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it's a nightmare

manic vigil Feb 5, 2018, 5:40 PM

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Why are you tho

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🤔

lone junco Feb 5, 2018, 5:40 PM

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I could carry him if he werent EU boi.

manic vigil Feb 5, 2018, 5:41 PM

#

Shantal is way too 1337 for you noobe

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He's the only one who vanishes properly after all 😯

nova snow Feb 5, 2018, 5:42 PM

#

!relics

chrome tuskBOT Feb 5, 2018, 5:42 PM

#

List of relics for each spec: http://tc.ravenholdt.net/

gray_hounds relic sheet:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vmVwWWnNhrbzi0S_qK6emjFquyUexbTmOEov7vkRjjg/edit#gid=0

lone junco Feb 5, 2018, 5:46 PM

#

he is the one without a guild. sounds like a carry to me.

manic vigil Feb 5, 2018, 5:46 PM

#

:ok_hand:

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don

dire spoke Feb 5, 2018, 5:47 PM

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😄

zealous dew Feb 5, 2018, 5:50 PM

#

wipe on kingaroth

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tank died

#

megalol

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i'm about to cry

strange python Feb 5, 2018, 5:50 PM

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take a peace carry gold butter and chill

zealous dew Feb 5, 2018, 5:50 PM

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can't imagine varith

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i'm out of here

strange python Feb 5, 2018, 5:51 PM

#

eu ?

zealous dew Feb 5, 2018, 5:51 PM

#

yep

strange python Feb 5, 2018, 5:51 PM

#

need sup ? 😛

zealous dew Feb 5, 2018, 5:51 PM

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my bad waited too much to pug

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should have done wed thu

manic vigil Feb 5, 2018, 5:51 PM

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Pugging and not expecting failure 🤔

#

Who's the fool in this scenario

zealous dew Feb 5, 2018, 5:51 PM

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can always lfr

strange python Feb 5, 2018, 5:51 PM

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i did it on weekend in the night

zealous dew Feb 5, 2018, 5:52 PM

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i'm just doing it for the essences to buy leg for alts

strange python Feb 5, 2018, 5:53 PM

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i do it cause tf can be an option .. vari dropped two trinkets 960 / 965 .. why ppl should go mythic

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and a little bit fun .. but only a bit .. first pug depleted on eonar

manic vigil Feb 5, 2018, 5:56 PM

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Where is broadsides im bored af

dire spoke Feb 5, 2018, 5:56 PM

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BURP

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that was some good sush

manic vigil Feb 5, 2018, 5:57 PM

#

👀

vapid moth Feb 5, 2018, 5:57 PM

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It's OK I'm here

manic vigil Feb 5, 2018, 5:58 PM

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How does that help

strange python Feb 5, 2018, 6:00 PM

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shantal which realm ? :p

dire spoke Feb 5, 2018, 6:00 PM

#

🔥

zealous dew Feb 5, 2018, 6:00 PM

#

WE DID IT

#

!!!

gaunt moat Feb 5, 2018, 6:02 PM

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grats?

manic vigil Feb 5, 2018, 6:02 PM

#

Notter!

gaunt moat Feb 5, 2018, 6:02 PM

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hmm?

manic vigil Feb 5, 2018, 6:02 PM

#

What's up

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No more wow huh

gaunt moat Feb 5, 2018, 6:03 PM

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Nope, couldn't find a guild in time, and now it's irrelevant.

zealous dew Feb 5, 2018, 6:03 PM

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never give up!

manic vigil Feb 5, 2018, 6:03 PM

#

Could still play for fun

#

😏

#

Don't listen to me I'm obviously crazy

zealous dew Feb 5, 2018, 6:04 PM

#

varith now

#

i expect potato tank

manic vigil Feb 5, 2018, 6:05 PM

#

Inb4 tanks own it but people are too dumb for necrotic

strange python Feb 5, 2018, 6:05 PM

#

INV ME

gaunt moat Feb 5, 2018, 6:06 PM

#

the fun for me is progressing raids and hanging with people
progress is over for most good guilds
hanging with people is something i miss though
but it's fine

zealous dew Feb 5, 2018, 6:06 PM

#

join one as social ?

gaunt moat Feb 5, 2018, 6:07 PM

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but i'm not playing

zealous dew Feb 5, 2018, 6:07 PM

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i'm pretty sure good guild will take you

strange python Feb 5, 2018, 6:08 PM

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my guild isnt the best shit on earth .. actually 9/11 but every single retard is unique from the rooster 😄 love them ;P

manic vigil Feb 5, 2018, 6:09 PM

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🐓

velvet wedge Feb 5, 2018, 6:15 PM

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sweet. i've spent the week replacing my master assassins with master alchs and just see that assassins are better on the website -_-

manic vigil Feb 5, 2018, 6:16 PM

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Well done pal 👌

strange python Feb 5, 2018, 6:16 PM

#

lül

#

and i am trying like every week to get ma/mos/malch boiis (blood shadow) missed

velvet wedge Feb 5, 2018, 6:16 PM

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so many seals wasted on the wrong boss loot table

strange python Feb 5, 2018, 6:17 PM

#

shadow relic can be only malch in this content

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so u need luck to get ma

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in t3

lone junco Feb 5, 2018, 6:20 PM

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i still buy relics from the argunite vendor

#

@manic vigil got a 930 crit stick on my pally. made me lol. I must have gotten 9 haste sticks on rogue.

manic vigil Feb 5, 2018, 6:21 PM

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Damn nice

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I'm done with trinkets for now. All out iron relics

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Only utter bs so far 😃

lone junco Feb 5, 2018, 6:25 PM

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📎 D7vmb7vD.gif

zealous dew Feb 5, 2018, 6:25 PM

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no luck vari

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sigh

manic vigil Feb 5, 2018, 6:26 PM

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Rip

jovial kite Feb 5, 2018, 6:30 PM

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@warm parcel https://gyazo.com/f58f296683ae52a2c542c4e1d817303f

Gyazo

#

@lone junco https://gyazo.com/f58f296683ae52a2c542c4e1d817303f

Gyazo

#

monkaMEGA

velvet wedge Feb 5, 2018, 6:30 PM

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must buy more vendor relics O.o

warm parcel Feb 5, 2018, 6:31 PM

#

@jovial kite
Keep Yourself Safe

lone junco Feb 5, 2018, 6:31 PM

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shoulders?

jovial kite Feb 5, 2018, 6:31 PM

#

monkaS

#

i got 930 still

manic vigil Feb 5, 2018, 6:31 PM

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Lol weak 👌

jovial kite Feb 5, 2018, 6:31 PM

#

gonna get 945 today though

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literally got muted by 10 people

#

a little shout of joy 👀

manic vigil Feb 5, 2018, 6:32 PM

#

The more interesting question is, why did you tag them both individually instead of at once 🤔

jovial kite Feb 5, 2018, 6:32 PM

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idk

#

am sleepy

manic vigil Feb 5, 2018, 6:33 PM

#

🤔

jovial kite Feb 5, 2018, 6:33 PM

#

and happy

#

waited a year

#

for procs like this

manic vigil Feb 5, 2018, 6:33 PM

#

Yeah I want that, gimme

dire spoke Feb 5, 2018, 6:33 PM

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Just do mythic kappa

lone junco Feb 5, 2018, 6:34 PM

#

I got a 940 normal cloak tf a long time ago. triggered a few people with that one.

#

👌

#

T20

dire spoke Feb 5, 2018, 6:34 PM

#

My sourcewing is normal 955 autism

manic vigil Feb 5, 2018, 6:34 PM

#

Your wut now

dire spoke Feb 5, 2018, 6:35 PM

#

the trinket you schnitz

#

oh

manic vigil Feb 5, 2018, 6:35 PM

#

Saucewing

tepid flower Feb 5, 2018, 6:35 PM

#

!relics

chrome tuskBOT Feb 5, 2018, 6:35 PM

#

List of relics for each spec: http://tc.ravenholdt.net/

gray_hounds relic sheet:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vmVwWWnNhrbzi0S_qK6emjFquyUexbTmOEov7vkRjjg/edit#gid=0

manic vigil Feb 5, 2018, 6:36 PM

#

Calling me a schnitz tho 👀

#

What does that even mean

dire spoke Feb 5, 2018, 6:36 PM

#

idk just made it up for you

#

❤

manic vigil Feb 5, 2018, 6:37 PM

#

I feel special now FeelsGoodMan

steep obsidian Feb 5, 2018, 6:37 PM

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schnitz is one of those tasty chicken things

#

i dont think id class it as an insult

lone junco Feb 5, 2018, 6:38 PM

#

that crit break tho.

#

📎 unknown.png

dire spoke Feb 5, 2018, 6:38 PM

#

that's schnitzel

steep obsidian Feb 5, 2018, 6:38 PM

#

i know

lone junco Feb 5, 2018, 6:38 PM

#

only need 21k crit and 3mut relics to get there.

dire spoke Feb 5, 2018, 6:38 PM

#

oh 😄

steep obsidian Feb 5, 2018, 6:38 PM

#

i am not good at making jokes

dire spoke Feb 5, 2018, 6:39 PM

#

damn Noobe

steep obsidian Feb 5, 2018, 6:39 PM

#

how many sockets do you need to get 21k crit

#

that is pretty nuts

#

even poss?

gritty yoke Feb 5, 2018, 6:39 PM

#

why would you have that much crit

lone junco Feb 5, 2018, 6:40 PM

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me? um

steep obsidian Feb 5, 2018, 6:40 PM

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i guess with 2 stat sticks

lone junco Feb 5, 2018, 6:40 PM

#

45

#

I have 12k crit

#

thats 41%

gritty yoke Feb 5, 2018, 6:41 PM

#

having this much crit
ever

lone junco Feb 5, 2018, 6:41 PM

#

+9k more and you hit 100% poison crit dp

steep obsidian Feb 5, 2018, 6:41 PM

#

i have like 18k mastery in my current gearset but only 21% crit or so more with dogs trink

lone junco Feb 5, 2018, 6:41 PM

#

or mut crit cap not sure

steep obsidian Feb 5, 2018, 6:41 PM

#

ahh

lone junco Feb 5, 2018, 6:41 PM

#

Agrus buffs are what 1k per?

gritty yoke Feb 5, 2018, 6:42 PM

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2k

lone junco Feb 5, 2018, 6:43 PM

#

nice.

#

really tho. that is too much crit to reach really.

dire spoke Feb 5, 2018, 6:44 PM

#

200% crit while mantle

#

ez

mental aurora Feb 5, 2018, 6:44 PM

#

Any crit over 100 is pointless, no? Can’t crit twice on the same attack

#

So mantle just gives you 100 and some extra

lone junco Feb 5, 2018, 6:45 PM

#

for reference here is the output

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📎 unknown.png

mental aurora Feb 5, 2018, 6:46 PM

#

Ah yes, all those folks with -20k crit.

lone junco Feb 5, 2018, 6:46 PM

#

100% mut 100% poisons and flat 100%

#

ill ignore that

jovial kite Feb 5, 2018, 6:47 PM

#

i mean

#

wheres the other stats

#

in comparison to crit

mental aurora Feb 5, 2018, 6:47 PM

#

Pretty sure crit is mvp for bleed build. Mastery only affects poison so it isn’t as important there.

manic vigil Feb 5, 2018, 6:48 PM

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Bleed build tho 🤔 don 🤢

jovial kite Feb 5, 2018, 6:48 PM

#

crit value 0 point is valueless

#

its where crit is worse than any other stat

#

where it matters

zealous dew Feb 5, 2018, 6:48 PM

#

when you get 100 mut i believe

#

or 65 dp

#

no clue

jovial kite Feb 5, 2018, 6:48 PM

#

no

mental aurora Feb 5, 2018, 6:49 PM

#

I’m still stacking mastery. 176% and counting.

jovial kite Feb 5, 2018, 6:49 PM

#

i had 48% crit with 1 shocklight and crit value dropped by 4

#

so crit becomes worse somewhere around 50-60%

mental aurora Feb 5, 2018, 6:52 PM

#

Makes sense. Diminishing returns and all.

warm parcel Feb 5, 2018, 6:52 PM

#

Time for some t20 runs

zealous dew Feb 5, 2018, 6:54 PM

#

or to reroll monk

#

with the free boost

jovial kite Feb 5, 2018, 6:55 PM

#

i wish you my luck weak

warm parcel Feb 5, 2018, 6:56 PM

#

🙏

#

Not even last on dps

worldly furnace Feb 5, 2018, 7:03 PM

#

!relics

chrome tuskBOT Feb 5, 2018, 7:03 PM

#

List of relics for each spec: http://tc.ravenholdt.net/

gray_hounds relic sheet:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vmVwWWnNhrbzi0S_qK6emjFquyUexbTmOEov7vkRjjg/edit#gid=0

dire spoke Feb 5, 2018, 7:05 PM

#

not even top3 last?

torn zodiac Feb 5, 2018, 7:14 PM

#

Is cloak still good for vari mythic?

#

for just popping the necrotic if we do the fatboss tactic

lone junco Feb 5, 2018, 7:15 PM

#

@jovial kite 0 point is my crit base of 12k

#

as discussed.

#

relic compares for this would be silly. not in my list of things to do currently. esp with the APL in its current state.

old sphinx Feb 5, 2018, 7:27 PM

#

Aight Guys God gave me the signs I need to switch to outlul

zealous dew Feb 5, 2018, 7:28 PM

#

RIP

old sphinx Feb 5, 2018, 7:28 PM

#

980 Crit Haste Ring with socket

cerulean aspen Feb 5, 2018, 7:31 PM

#

980 frond is sign to switch

#

nothing less

fast depot Feb 5, 2018, 7:32 PM

#

was mesing with outlul SnD last night now that we have lots of pantheon trinks, had surprisingly good results

old sphinx Feb 5, 2018, 7:34 PM

#

Dead Stats

📎 unknown.png

lone junco Feb 5, 2018, 7:34 PM

#

eww

dire spoke Feb 5, 2018, 7:35 PM

#

lol

#

👀 I saw that

lone junco Feb 5, 2018, 7:35 PM

#

I got a 970 crit haste ring in a box. rip indeed

old sphinx Feb 5, 2018, 7:36 PM

#

bye imma kms now

lone junco Feb 5, 2018, 7:36 PM

#

later

#

gimme your extra relics. I need a vend/bb

dire spoke Feb 5, 2018, 7:36 PM

#

I want to push some vers into crit ... it's 11% -> 27%

old sphinx Feb 5, 2018, 7:37 PM

#

u see that 15% haste bruh

lyric elm Feb 5, 2018, 7:37 PM

#

god bless that 15% haste

raw harbor Feb 5, 2018, 7:37 PM

#

doc is streaming

lone junco Feb 5, 2018, 7:37 PM

#

who

#

and no thx.

old sphinx Feb 5, 2018, 7:37 PM

#

someone send me master mcmastery he needs to patch me up

vestal wren Feb 5, 2018, 7:37 PM

#

an entertainment streamer that currently breaks twitch

dire spoke Feb 5, 2018, 7:38 PM

#

you mean quin?

#

kappa

vestal wren Feb 5, 2018, 7:38 PM

#

i doubt quin has 300k viewer^^

lyric elm Feb 5, 2018, 7:38 PM

#

I've heard a rumor that the poison vial from mistress in tomb scales with mastery, someone please tell me this ain't true, lmao

old sphinx Feb 5, 2018, 7:39 PM

#

@lyric elm Heresy

lone junco Feb 5, 2018, 7:39 PM

#

the vial of ceaseless toxins?

lyric elm Feb 5, 2018, 7:39 PM

#

it says shadow damage, but he was saying his logs show the poison damage is much higher than the proc should be

#

Yeah

merry root Feb 5, 2018, 7:41 PM

#

DrDisRespectLIVE

lone junco Feb 5, 2018, 7:41 PM

#

📎 unknown.png

#

lol yeah hard pass.

lyric elm Feb 5, 2018, 7:42 PM

#

so according to the chart you put up about an hour ago, 10k crit is the first breakpoint, and 20k is when it starts to plateau?

jovial kite Feb 5, 2018, 7:43 PM

#

370k watchers

#

rofl

#

he broke twitch again

lone junco Feb 5, 2018, 7:43 PM

#

500$ is nice

#

📎 unknown.png

jovial kite Feb 5, 2018, 7:44 PM

#

hes made probably close to 100k today already

#

look at the chat

#

subs every second

warm parcel Feb 5, 2018, 7:44 PM

#

Wonder if hes gonna beat shroud

#

In terms of his retirement money earned

jovial kite Feb 5, 2018, 7:44 PM

#

probably

warm parcel Feb 5, 2018, 7:44 PM

#

iirc he got like 13k subs

#

In a night

lone junco Feb 5, 2018, 7:44 PM

#

🙄

jovial kite Feb 5, 2018, 7:45 PM

#

fuuck no shoulders from avatar

#

the boss was ridiculously easy now

lone junco Feb 5, 2018, 7:45 PM

#

I ~~love~~ am literally sad for guys that stream with 2 viewers. Hoping to make it big. Since he failed out of college from playing wow.

jovial kite Feb 5, 2018, 7:46 PM

#

disrespect at 350k shroud at 47k atm

#

lol 7k subs in 30 minutes

#

he just said in stream

warm parcel Feb 5, 2018, 7:46 PM

#

ait

#

so guess hes gonna crush shroud

torn token Feb 5, 2018, 7:47 PM

#

tyler1 peaked at like 400k viewers right?

raw harbor Feb 5, 2018, 7:47 PM

#

shroud will be doc in like a few weeks again

jovial kite Feb 5, 2018, 7:47 PM

#

probably not

raw harbor Feb 5, 2018, 7:47 PM

#

beat*

#

in viewers

brave reef Feb 5, 2018, 7:50 PM

#

!Relic

grim canopy Feb 5, 2018, 7:51 PM

#

My asassination rogue is a bit new, but jesus how the hell do i do aoe in big open world packs it feels like aids

lone junco Feb 5, 2018, 7:51 PM

#

get shoulders
kill things

grim canopy Feb 5, 2018, 7:51 PM

#

like any other class i've done was easy

#

oh..rip

hardy dagger Feb 5, 2018, 7:51 PM

#

poisonbomb

grim canopy Feb 5, 2018, 7:52 PM

#

diablo 3 developers ....

#

fuck

shrewd notch Feb 5, 2018, 7:52 PM

#

it's pretty much fan of knives, rupture a couple things, otherwise envenom

jovial kite Feb 5, 2018, 7:52 PM

#

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/g9c5tddt8i8WEQk5J71Js5

Raidbots

#

tier hands 30k upgrade

#

👌🏽

grim canopy Feb 5, 2018, 7:52 PM

#

i'm kind of used to pressing 1 button and everything dying instantly

lone junco Feb 5, 2018, 7:52 PM

#

getting there.

grim canopy Feb 5, 2018, 7:52 PM

#

like on every other class

shrewd notch Feb 5, 2018, 7:53 PM

#

the adds generally need to live more than a few seconds for us to get going

grim canopy Feb 5, 2018, 7:53 PM

#

so change specs for open world?

shrewd notch Feb 5, 2018, 7:53 PM

#

open world like world quests?

grim canopy Feb 5, 2018, 7:53 PM

#

sub or outlaw

#

yeah i'm farming AP atm

#

it's annoying AF as sin

shrewd notch Feb 5, 2018, 7:54 PM

#

it isn't all that bad. besides i'm usually in and out of groups via worldquestgroupfinder ¯_(ツ)_/¯

grim canopy Feb 5, 2018, 7:54 PM

#

class fantasy

lone junco Feb 5, 2018, 7:54 PM

#

@jovial kite Im just stuck with shit relics for now. rest is all high crit/m like 2400/1800 rings. i'm pretty much done gearing.

jovial kite Feb 5, 2018, 7:55 PM

#

dam

#

we in same spot

#

i got shit relics too

#

965 955 945

#

3x ma 3x malch but shit secondaries

lone junco Feb 5, 2018, 7:55 PM

#

yours are better than mine. at least 3malch

grim canopy Feb 5, 2018, 7:55 PM

#

does t21 make it better

lone junco Feb 5, 2018, 7:55 PM

#

I have 1bb 1env 1pk

shrewd notch Feb 5, 2018, 7:56 PM

#

yeah t21's pretty good

lone junco Feb 5, 2018, 7:56 PM

#

Id pref 3ma 3bb if i could pick.

jovial kite Feb 5, 2018, 7:56 PM

#

tfw t20 hands bigger ilvl than 3/4 of my t21 tier pieces ZULUL

#

opinions? :d

grim canopy Feb 5, 2018, 7:57 PM

#

so for the 910 argulite vendor is hould keep buying shoulders

#

or does this not work like dialbo 3

jovial kite Feb 5, 2018, 8:01 PM

#

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/t6cNoFxdct4n1UUg8Cj9Pj

Raidbots

#

@lone junco

#

should i do it?

dire spoke Feb 5, 2018, 8:04 PM

#

had a similar issue today:

📎 mosmalch.jpg

zealous dew Feb 5, 2018, 8:04 PM

#

i'm having a blast in flr

grim canopy Feb 5, 2018, 8:04 PM

#

who is that in that picture

dire spoke Feb 5, 2018, 8:05 PM

#

Notter kappa

winter willow Feb 5, 2018, 8:05 PM

#

i just left

#

kingaroth

#

lfr

#

boosted char week is the fucking worst for lfr

lone junco Feb 5, 2018, 8:06 PM

#

@zealous dew tbh. lfr is some of the best rotational time for me. Fights are so long. with shitters at 300k

jovial kite Feb 5, 2018, 8:06 PM

#

i did it noobe

#

12k too good to pass up

#

and progress is over

#

broke 2.2m

lone junco Feb 5, 2018, 8:07 PM

#

@jovial kite depends on if you want to keep your feet over the line between TB and Ex.

#

ye

winter willow Feb 5, 2018, 8:07 PM

#

i just wiped on felhounds once, on high command after that, didn't even think it was possible

#

lfr...

lone junco Feb 5, 2018, 8:08 PM

#

@jovial kite im going to work on a conditional for the vanish fish btw. I know it is a gain, but just need to work out the code.

jovial kite Feb 5, 2018, 8:08 PM

#

it will probably be a gain if you lowroll your mutilates when fishing

lone junco Feb 5, 2018, 8:08 PM

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garrote rupture vendetta mut mut vanish rupture exang.

jovial kite Feb 5, 2018, 8:08 PM

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i use lowroll mutilates to refresh ruptures before exsang

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to get the right pandemic

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theres like a 10 second window

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depending on your mut rolls

lone junco Feb 5, 2018, 8:09 PM

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i dont care about the rupture pandemic really. it is the 0 7 10 13 bota windows.

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Ill swipe a 1cp rupture and lose 1/2 a shitty env.

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with your agi, you could get a 30M rupture at the bracer vanish.

jovial kite Feb 5, 2018, 8:10 PM

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no i mean the better rolls you get on mutilate when fishing the more dps you lose

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same goes for pandemic refresh

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before new exsanguinate

grim canopy Feb 5, 2018, 8:10 PM

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damn they gotta nerf ww monk

lone junco Feb 5, 2018, 8:11 PM

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i get that there is loss. but bracers dont even buff env. so It boggles me that this isnt a thing.

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fuck I would garrote rupture garrote rupture if i could.

torn zodiac Feb 5, 2018, 8:12 PM

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you guys know if feint works on the auras on varimathras?

grim canopy Feb 5, 2018, 8:14 PM

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i'm in heroic and i can't even get 2 garrotes off

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no aoe 😦

lone junco Feb 5, 2018, 8:15 PM

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fok env fok env?

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thats my target. I give no shits about missing a few cps on mut.

grim canopy Feb 5, 2018, 8:16 PM

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so just spam fok don't bother rupturing?

lone junco Feb 5, 2018, 8:17 PM

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@grim canopy if stuff lives less than 10 sec. garrote and rupture are pretty much junk. if they live in the 15-30 sec, i weave env and rupture until they all have a rupture. then just env spam. and dont reapply rupture. If stuff lives >30sec. maintain ruptures on all.

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this is just me and what I do. getting poison bombs are required for fast aoe.