assassination

[spare cloud]

I don't understand

[gilded lark]

since crippling is essentially the only reason to bring a sin rogue to m+

[stark heart]

Elu is bae

Leeching is overheating for too much

[vapid moth]

I said it’s never benefited me. Any situation where I’m not the only contender crip is plausible

[spare cloud]

I never use feint so how does elusiveness benefit me?

[gilded lark]

do you only raid lfr or do you just hate your healers

[spare cloud]

using feint is dps loss

[stark heart]

Dead do 0 dps

[spare cloud]

bosses die faster when i don't use feint

[gilded lark]

gonna go with both

[stark heart]

[vapid moth]

Who

[spare cloud]

xD

[vapid moth]

Cause I’d never touch lfr if I’m not leveling

[gilded lark]

[stark heart]

Raid mission

[vapid moth]

“More chances for titanforged loot” yea fuck that

[stark heart]

I do it in lfr

[gilded lark]

you do lfr to level

[viscid helm]

👋 @stark heart

[gilded lark]

[vapid moth]

For gear. Cause I have no friends

Yet again I’ve only leveled my dh so

[gilded lark]

how do you do lfr while levelling

you can't do it under 110 unless you're doing old raids at 100

90

etc

[vapid moth]

Whatever

You got what I meant

[spare cloud]

lvl 90 lfr to level

because the mobs give like 200 xp

worth it

[stark heart]

@viscid helm

[vapid moth]

I gotta do my calc hw but I just don’t wanna touch it

[sacred ore]

guys, so the opener is garrote/mutilate/rupture/vendetta/toxic blade/kingsbane/vanish/envenom/mutilate/envenom until shoulders expire (nightstalker with shoulders). My question is during the opener after using toxic blade and kingsbane sometimes i get only 2-3 combo points in that case should i mutilate again to gain 4+ combo points for envenom? or should i just use envenom at 2-3 combo points from toxic blade and kingsbane? sorry for the long question.

[civic palm]

...

[vapid moth]

We

Just

Spoke

About

That

[civic palm]

BLIZZ I NEED ALPHA

SAVE ME PLEASE

[gilded lark]

how do you only get 2-3 cp anyway

[spare cloud]

partial parry

[civic palm]

You assume it 's a thing that can happen.

[stark heart]

I need dead angery titan

Then alpha

[spare cloud]

I need that too

[civic palm]

Yeah well, M-Prog is a fucking stuggle atm sooo > _>

[spare cloud]

I'm just waiting for my guild to carry me through it

[quick ice]

I don't think 2CP is possible from that opener unless you're not pressing buttons fast enough

[vapid moth]

That’s what happen on my logs. And I mutilate again cause you know fuck having a 4cp vanish envenom

[civic palm]

It's not

[vapid moth]

My heart couldn’t handle it

[spare cloud]

taking a break at the start of the content is something I can recommend to everyone who has a decent progress guild

[stark heart]

Probably blocked muti

[sacred ore]

toxic blade=1 cp . kingsbane = 1-3 combo points right? :/

[civic palm]

Parry probs

[gilded lark]

what

del

[quick ice]

2 CP and 3CP because he's under mantle

[gilded lark]

do you know how mantle words

works*

both of those would crit

2+3

[spare cloud]

quick maths

[sacred ore]

right now im not using mantle

[gilded lark]

then why ask about mantle pener

opener* fuck

[sacred ore]

im just assuming

[gilded lark]

go read the guide

[spare cloud]

do you even read?

[quick ice]

you literally said "nightstalker with shoulders"

[sacred ore]

is my opener different with mantle?

[gilded lark]

yes

[stark heart]

Is 5

[vapid moth]

If you’re not using shoulder why would you read the shoulder opener

[spare cloud]

wait

[stark heart]

Quick maths

[spare cloud]

what just happened

[gilded lark]

?

[vapid moth]

Mantle is the shoulder

[spare cloud]

Just open with mutilate so you get many CP.

also don't forget to kick you opponent to taunt him and make him angry so he makes more mistakes

[viscid helm]

What is going on👺

[sacred ore]

so i could learn more about assasination later on

sorry my bad guys

[vapid moth]

Flow Has the appropriate pfp for this situation

[spare cloud]

You should start with reading the guide

You don't even need to click the pinned messages nowadays

you can just click the title

[quick ice]

here's a question I don't think is covered by the guide, because its opener is a subterfuge opener
How do you open with boots/bracers if you're running NS?

[sacred ore]

is my rotation the same without mantle? but instead i should use rupture after vanish?

[civic palm]

Like you do not have Mantle @quick ice

[quick ice]

I mean, I do

[civic palm]

. . .

[vapid moth]

...

[spare cloud]

isnt it covered in the exsanguinate section?

[civic palm]

I fucking hate you all.

[quick ice]

but I also have some very interesting shoulders

[spare cloud]

you just leave out exsanguinate

[vapid moth]

It is very clearly divided

[gilded lark]

you open

exactly

the

same

except you rupture after vanish

and get 5 cp before vanish because y'know, without mantle it's not guaranteed

also this is covered by the guide

[quick ice]

it just feels weird overwriting such an early rupture?

[gilded lark]

[stark heart]

@viscid helm I don't get either

[sacred ore]

ty broadsides xD

[gilded lark]

the early rupture should be like

3cp ish

[quick ice]

oh duh

[vapid moth]

Lol

[spare cloud]

You don't crit without mantle

[gilded lark]

and you're doing it for pandemic lol

[quick ice]

I'm only kinda awake rn 😦

[spare cloud]

so its a really shitty rupture

[vapid moth]

I love penis

[spare cloud]

its fine we had more of those guys in the last few hours

and out of that pool you're one of the more alive

[sacred ore]

when should i reapply a 3cp rupture? the guides says about the 4cp and 5cp

[gilded lark]

you dont

[spare cloud]

You don't

[vapid moth]

You dont

[quick ice]

why would you apply a 3cp rupture?

😐

[sacred ore]

xD

[spare cloud]

same reason for using toxic blade over evenom

after vanish

because tb does more dmg than evenom with 3 cp

[sacred ore]

so i should use rupture at 3cp? :/

[gilded lark]

i mean i see that you're trying to meme here toph

[sacred ore]

shouldnt**

[gilded lark]

but you're beating it into the ground

and you should just stop

[spare cloud]

i have to wring everything out because i have to go

[gilded lark]

deli holy fuck man

[quick ice]

meme more dead than naya's vanish cheapshot?

[gilded lark]

you're gonna make people explode in here

[vapid moth]

I like when men beat my dick into the ground

[gilded lark]

myself included

the only 3cp rupture

is in the opener

because you're only using it for pandemic

i literally

LITERALLY

just explained this

[sacred ore]

ok xD

[gilded lark]

fucking read

[spare cloud]

also that should only happen if you dont have mantle

[vapid moth]

Lmfao

I saw that

You ain't slick

[civic palm]

_>

[sacred ore]

anyways thank you guys xD

[vapid moth]

Bwhahaha

At least I don't go by central time

[spare cloud]

12:02 AM

wtf is this

[vapid moth]

Goteeem

[gilded lark]

? bis time

pleb

[stark heart]

chat

[civic palm]

......................^

[spare cloud]

time to work

[civic palm]

this keyboard has a CALC shortcut > _>

[warm parcel]

Spicy morning huh

[signal summit]

Fuck mondays man

[viscid helm]

🥄

[jovial kite]

Morning and already memeing

[civic hatch]

can we rupture at 4cp or do we always rupture with 5cp?

[jovial kite]

4

Unless you vanish rupture

[civic hatch]

but with shoulders shouldnt you always be vanishing envenom?

[jovial kite]

Depends

[warm parcel]

Tldr envenom

Actual answer depends

[civic hatch]

wats the actual answer if you mind me asking

[hazy iron]

My boots and wrists simming basically identical (2 k less on boots)

Boots and wrists together sim terribly low compared to a combination with my shoulders.

With 3 vendetta relics, and 2 MA crucibles, what things should I be looking at in terms of swapping my boots in and out, or should I just not give a fuck and keep my wrists on

[warm parcel]

If you can hit all needed check marks for rupture.
Aka not disturbing tier uptime
Rupture is in pandemic
Target is gonna live thru it all.
And possibly more that we dont know yet

Whats the issue. You wanna swap them or what?

[hazy iron]

i'd rather not, basically what im asking is why / what fights would boots be useful on

like, should I be looking at fight length etc

[warm parcel]

Then just keep wrists

Youre talking 2k out of 2m dps

[hazy iron]

yeah, i know, im not really explaining my self properly - are boots situationally useful, where i'd ignore sims?

[jovial kite]

Kin garoth

[hazy iron]

thats so I have vendetta up for each add, yes?

[jovial kite]

Aggramar is 1 possibility too

Yep

Each add and 1 on boss

in between addphases

[hazy iron]

gotcha, too easy. thanks

[midnight latch]

@viscid helm did you get any loots

[strange python]

Crit haste chest

[viscid helm]

@midnight latch dont think so, not that i care

[midnight latch]

[jovial kite]

Naya mod 👌

[midnight latch]

but how you gonna replace those sick pk relics?

[jovial kite]

Chat more entertaining than maustehylly Kappa

[midnight latch]

well if both are playing

someone has to take the piss out of our top 3 rogues btw

[jovial kite]

Idd, quality stream 👌

[midnight latch]

not like weak does the same to me and clips my fuckups to post here 👀

[jovial kite]

🤣

vanishcheapshot.gif

[quick ice]

10/10 gif would watch naya derp again

[stark heart]

@midnight latch do the same on my strum to feel better

😄

[midnight latch]

ok next time 👀

[gilded lark]

imagine having good enough internet to stream

[quick ice]

tfw australian internet

[stark heart]

I don't have to imagine that

[jovial kite]

Imagine being NA 🤣

[stark heart]

[jovial kite]

Imagine being net neutrality 🤣

[stark heart]

50 mbits upload

👌

[midnight latch]

Imagine your internet is shit

[gilded lark]

[midnight latch]

and you stream anyways

[gilded lark]

my upload is like

700kbps

[midnight latch]

cause you to lag like the russians in bgs

and you are the 3rd tank on vari

:conceredcoffee:

[gilded lark]

[viscid helm]

You forgot to add bad at the game

[quick ice]

I got lucky in LFR today and was on an OCE server, so that was nice

[gilded lark]

that sounds unlucky

[midnight latch]

new game mode enable "guess where the tank is"

@viscid helm yeah forgot

[quick ice]

@gilded lark only for everyone else 😄

[warm parcel]

I only fucked up twice

Ok

[midnight latch]

come on dude

[gilded lark]

getting oce ping in lfr at like 3pm

[midnight latch]

you played mage 90% of the strum

[gilded lark]

is the worst

[midnight latch]

I have no idea about mages

so i cant clip shit

[warm parcel]

Well

Died twice

Blink into bomb

[gilded lark]

i could watch and clip

[midnight latch]

I can still get em

from your broadcasts

🤔

[warm parcel]

I know

[gilded lark]

what mage spec to you play

[midnight latch]

also that sick double grenade on command

[warm parcel]

Frost rn

Fire got cucked and arcane wep is like 68

[gilded lark]

easy clips then

20x frostbolt in a row

clips

[jovial kite]

Dat barrage 👀

[midnight latch]

no procs

20 frostballs in a row

5/7 gripping gameplay

[quick ice]

frostball

[midnight latch]

residentsleeper

@quick ice get out didn't have my coffee ok

dont judge me

🗡

[stark heart]

20 frostbolts without procs

[warm parcel]

I had one iv with 2 procs 😦

[jovial kite]

frostballs 🤔

[warm parcel]

It was amazing

7/7 cot btw

[midnight latch]

bind frostbolt to mousewheel

nap

[jovial kite]

wod mm gameplay 👌

[stark heart]

I thought that is how engaging gameplay works

[quick ice]

gotta have one of those mice with the freewheel scrolling

no ratchets

[shrewd night]

helo bruddas

[vivid bone]

hiya

[midnight latch]

tips fedora

[jovial kite]

Hi

[midnight latch]

https://i.imgur.com/lzj0F3q.mp4 @gaunt moat

[gilded lark]

eat it

[zealous dew]

why is notter in a cage ?

[midnight latch]

so he doesnt hurt himself

[zealous dew]

man, he can choke on that, easily

[shrewd night]

Its monday

Been at work for an hour

Still want to kill myself

[viscid helm]

Same

[warm parcel]

Jeez

Mondays arent that bad

Had a nice night of sleep tbh

[quick ice]

@shrewd night is actually garfield though

[shrewd night]

I slept for three/four hours

Not all that bad

But still would pay buttloads of cash in order to stay at home

The only good thing about this week is that its short

Heading out of the country on friday

[warm parcel]

3?

Not sleeping at least 6-7 every night?

Smh

[onyx falcon]

😮 i check in here between my keys and i see mr maffs

hi weak

and yes mondays are that bad

[stark heart]

@warm parcel 6-7 hours of sleep

shame I never manage to do that

[shrewd night]

I tend to sleep six to be honest, yesterday was only a fluke

After all, I was too excited to sleep after learning Weak tuned into my stream to see my shitty gameplay

[warm parcel]

👋

:D

[muted maple]

can you still vanish before DfA comes down for an extra beefy envenom?

[quick ice]

if it works like sub, then no

DFA puts vanish on a 2-3sec CD

[muted maple]

uuuuuugh

[dire spoke]

mowning

[shrewd night]

👋

[dire spoke]

good idea Naya, I need coffee to warm my frostballs too

th3h3

[midnight latch]

yeah

[nimble tartan]

Guys are melee players just cucking themselves from the ranged experience...

[shrewd night]

'the ranged experience'

Sounds like something a heroin addict would say

[dire spoke]

ranged didn't have any really shitty mechanic since tiers

[strange python]

Hi

[dire spoke]

👋

[strange python]

If you play memelaw you’re basically ranged right?

Pistol shots for days

Pewpew

[midnight latch]

I played arcway 19 with a dh yesterday

he is a range main

dead every pack/boss

not sure if you mean that by "range experience"

[viscid helm]

Wish i could play ranged so i could just tunnel boss and do no mechanics

🤷

[vivid bone]

rogue can also tunnel boss and don't do mechanics, just soak everything and cheat death

[soft island]

What is this : mehanix thing?

Does it taste good?

[midnight latch]

cheat death procs ones

range is forever

[vivid bone]

usually once is enough

[midnight latch]

also ranges stacking in meele camp 🗡

[vivid bone]

meh I played both hunter and rogue, don't feel like I have to do more with rogue.

then again, I'm a heroic scrub in a 10/12 man raid group 😛

[soft island]

Yes

[viscid helm]

I just do all mechanics and 0 dps

W/e to make the farm as fast as possible

[vivid bone]

there's your problem

[quick talon]

@viscid helm @muted maple u guys sweet brothers

[viscid helm]

Who is this 🥄

[midnight latch]

can you not

there is only one flowi k

[quick ice]

only 1 flowki too 😛

[shrewd night]

lets be honest

[midnight latch]

bet its a freakin imposter

[shrewd night]

Someone killed flowi

and changed his avatar

[muted maple]

ew, its an outlaw rogue.

i request you change your name and disassociate from my identity.

[shrewd night]

🍿

[midnight latch]

flowi only 100% real with alacrity avatar

[quick talon]

Flowi only real with snd avi

[viscid helm]

This is actually very disturbing

I own the copyrights to this name

[vivid bone]

I bet you don't

[midnight latch]

I bet he does

[vivid bone]

it's on @midnight latch

[midnight latch]

🍿

[hard nexus]

I'm Flowi

[winter gale]

Guys what is considered to be a good crit %

[vivid bone]

a % that sims good

[winter gale]

Im sitting in 29%

And 179% mastery

[jovial kite]

How can you sleep tight after playing maustehylly @warm parcel 🤔

[vivid bone]

Seems fine Ohandza

make sure to update your statweights through raidbots.com to see how your stats perform

[winter gale]

Thank you Luke

I am, every now and then

[midnight latch]

35% sin starts to feel really sexy thou

all those 4cp mutilates

[warm parcel]

What

Hating on me?

[midnight latch]

@warm parcel I think he is hitting on you :>

[winter gale]

Yes, that is how I feel Naya. Like i miss a bit procs.

[warm parcel]

Oh

In that case

Tune in for more on tue 😗

[jovial kite]

Yes hitting :3

[viscid helm]

I wouldnt

[midnight latch]

😂

[winter gale]

Should I even drop some mastery in favour of crit?

[jovial kite]

I was surprised on the low toxicity music in stream

[vivid bone]

Ohandza, you should sim that

There's no way for us to say

[winter gale]

Will do to see

[shrewd night]

what the fuck is maustehylly anyways

[jovial kite]

Spiceraxk

Rack

[warm parcel]

Do you want other music?

[winter gale]

How it performs with both options

[jovial kite]

no it was good tbh

[midnight latch]

was a good stream
sadly no major fuckups

[jovial kite]

There was one glorious barrage

[midnight latch]

was ready with the 🍿

well

[viscid helm]

1 shot imonar

[midnight latch]

you should have seen the first week

[viscid helm]

Did the impossible

[midnight latch]

Imonar the final boss

forcing weak to go back to rogue

[jovial kite]

And tbh anti-meme stream end was a good touch 👌

[midnight latch]

cause he ded on bridge every tiem

[jovial kite]

🤣

[midnight latch]

what do you mean meme

[viscid helm]

Hes gonna be back on rogue on tuesday

[jovial kite]

srs anti*

[warm parcel]

Ye just tried to see how close to 100% I can get

Sims p close to my actual tier uptime now

[jovial kite]

nice

98?

[warm parcel]

Depends

Dummy its 100%

Bosses like vari 98

First boss 95 or so

[jovial kite]

naisu

[warm parcel]

Argus 97 or so deducting afk phases

But has crit buff and aoe

So

[viscid helm]

Maybe you should play rogue next reset and do all the mechanics for a change

I can play feral

[midnight latch]

😂

[candid yew]

im alwayst lowest dps in every grp im in, where is the new pk bug that makes us do 5mil dps? feelsbadman

[shrewd night]

Dont play assassination if you want to contribute to mythic+ outside of certain affixes? 🤷

[midnight latch]

play sub and carry 🍿

[candid yew]

should i just reroll ww?

[midnight latch]

you can just switch specs

[jovial kite]

Or git gud

[shrewd night]

🙏 for pb

also known as 'git gud'

[candid yew]

kk gotta pray more

got it

[shrewd night]

If you are hellbent on playing a SUBoptimal spec (geddit?) then yes, praying is your only option

[split loom]

!trinkets

[chrome tusk]

List of trinkets for each spec: http://tc.ravenholdt.net/

[winged parrot]

From my personal experience sin pulls ahead of sub on 20/21+

[viscid helm]

Then you must be pretty 🥄 at playing sub

[winged parrot]

It's more like the other way around

[strange python]

Could anyone check my sin logs and maybe give me some tips?

And yes I did read the guide on how to check the logs and analyze them myself. Just want another persons input aswell 😄

[spare cloud]

Hello

why don't you just post your logs and maybe some people will give you input

idk

[midnight latch]

sin pulls ahead at like 23/24

[zealous dew]

or when potato tank pulls 2 mobs because he's afraid to die

[strange python]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/4W8mKwCZGbjL617q#fight=1&type=damage-done - This is the shitty attempt I did yesterday. Other then bad luck with poison bombs what else went wrong ._. ?

[winged parrot]

I don't like playing sub that much bc of chain or random pulls

It's so hard to manage cds when you don't know what your tank is gonna pull next

[midnight latch]

well communicate

[winged parrot]

Also sin has more energy so that I can spam feint and never die basically

[midnight latch]

thats what coms are made for

[quick ice]

@strange python you're not using TB/KB enough

[midnight latch]

for example

[winged parrot]

With russian pugs?

[spare cloud]

try timing your evenoms better so more of them go into tb buff

[midnight latch]

well ok

did not read the pugging part

[winged parrot]

Few guildies do mythic+

Thats where I love sub

But generally, I feel like sin is better overall

Its nice to have some multi dot and more uptime you know

I don't mind pb rng that much

With the right trinkets you can control your burst well enough

[midnight latch]

our tank says
"I pull x and y"
"need cds on"
" save x and z"
even if we done the dungeon 319361036170156170 times

Its great

[spare cloud]

another thing is

why is your second vanish at 226 seconds in the fight

[winged parrot]

Get me his btag

[spare cloud]

you wasted 1 vanish

[midnight latch]

😂

[winged parrot]

Or shall I invite him over a drink 🤔

First

[spare cloud]

@strange python

[midnight latch]

you should buy him dinner first

I think

[spare cloud]

or did i oversee smth

[strange python]

Well if I'm not sure I can get 3 vanishes into my fight I just save it for 30% mark

[winged parrot]

I'd be sad if he turns out to be a golddigger

[spare cloud]

use a ttk weakaura

[strange python]

That tells you when approx the boss will die?

[shrewd night]

Second vanish 226 into the fight

[spare cloud]

yes+

[shrewd night]

Vanish cd 120 seconds

🤔

[spare cloud]

226 seconds thats when your 3rd one is supposed to be up

which should be the one under 30% hp

at goroth

ähh

warbreaker i mean

[quick ice]

I sometimes do it his way, but our kills are ~~4min

[spare cloud]

or w/e that fucked is named

thats fine when you know how fast the bosses die

but he doesn't thats my point

[midnight latch]

Garothi worldbreaker

:3

[spare cloud]

as rogue its very important to know thats happening and when shits gonna happen

[strange python]

So if the wa will say more then 4 minutes is when I should use the vanish on CD then right?

[spare cloud]

You line it with vendetta

So you get a ns vendetta evenom with 5 cp in the beginning

and always 3 evenoms in vanish

You basically play it like the opener

only difference is that you wont have 100% crit before vanish

so you will have to mix in another mutilate or smth likethat

[strange python]

Should I just line it up with vendetta or TB/KB aswell?

[spare cloud]

they should come up at about the same time

just play it like your opener for now and line everything up

[strange python]

But basically my goal is to line everything up but not delay too much 😄 ?

[spare cloud]

once you get more experienced you can time it so you don't lose casts

Yes

it doesnt matter if you use the vanish at the end of vendetta or at the beginning, as long as its in the window and you don't lose casts

so you can use it at the last 5 seconds for example

[shrewd night]

I pop vanish on cd regardless. I can control whats happening now, but I cant foresee whether or not people will die, dps will lower to the point where I could fit in another vanish

[spare cloud]

so kb and tb should be up at the same time

you can always time it that way

[strange python]

Hmm alright I will get that ttk weakaura and try to use my vanish more and line up my cds into it

[spare cloud]

try to get more evenoms into the tb windows

sometimes you even have none

it should be between 1-3 depending on your energy at any given point and previous needs to refresh rupture

[strange python]

So at beginning of my rogue raiding I almost always used KB and then at 9 sec left TB but then I started using TB on cd which way is correct?

[spare cloud]

sometimes even 4 are working

it literally explains that in the guide

[shrewd night]

@strange python that was mostly for when AP was a factor

[quick ice]

B

[spare cloud]

it seems you didn't read the guide after all

[strange python]

Ofc I did

[spare cloud]

Pretty much everything i explained just now can be interpreted when reading everything it says

also the last question you asked gets answered by it specifically

You don't delay toxic blade for too long to line up with kb

about 5 secs max

[strange python]

How I understood that is basically if they are both off cd you wait with TB for around 5 seconds so you can use it when there are 9 sec left on KB

[spare cloud]

No you use toxic blade unless it gets ready right when you use kb

then you can delay

[strange python]

it's never worth using cloak on 30 stacks on ST right?

[shrewd night]

If cloak is your only legendary, using it on 30 stacks is fine

[spare cloud]

I mean

Yeah

[strange python]

but like, isn't it more worth to use muti anyway since you get more CP?

[shrewd night]

No

[strange python]

damage is kinda ass on ST from cloak

[shrewd night]

I thought the same, but @lone junco did the math

[strange python]

Alright Tophifee I will try to line that up aswell

[spare cloud]

But fok also proccs poison knives

and all that shit

[strange python]

ok then, thanks

[spare cloud]

even though its nerfed it should do a decent amount of dmg

[strange python]

at least now i know

that it's worth

[spare cloud]

but not worth to be used when you have other legendaries

[strange python]

nah it's like the only one i have

so i have to use it atm

[spare cloud]

Just do m+ then

where you can use it

lul

[maiden dagger]

why ass rogue get their main abilities at lvl 40 :/

[shrewd night]

Why does it matter?

[spare cloud]

You kinda don't want to level as assa

because it does nothing you need when you level

[maiden dagger]

tryna kill hoes in stv but i dont do dmg

dam dat face is freaky

[spare cloud]

better?

[shrewd night]

using mutilate instead of sinister strike is not going to make a you a killing machine

[spare cloud]

its most likely going to cripple you even more due to increased energy cost

will feel even more clunky

abilities are kinda useless on low level anyways

some at least

[maiden dagger]

im not rly having a prob questing as ass. mobs die in about 3 sec

plus rn with sin strike i cant wven use evis

by the time i have 4-5 combo points i have to refresh a bleed

[shrewd night]

That doesnt make sense

[maiden dagger]

when im tryna kill someone

@spare cloud much better

looking sexy as hell

[shrewd night]

It just sounds weird to me that you'd need 24 seconds to get 4-5 cp

[maiden dagger]

u dont have 100% uptime in pvp

u alsp gotta waste energy on vial

[zealous dew]

pvp 😄

[shrewd night]

more so lowlevel pvp

[maiden dagger]

i spec said that at the top

so u either cant read or...

[cosmic charm]

How is lowlvl PvP for leveling in new patch 🤔

[zealous dew]

the moment when you have to use leeching poison because healer can't heal tyr moroes

[maiden dagger]

calm down furry

[shrewd night]

dw slay, mutilate will fix it

[maiden dagger]

show me that epeen

i guess its cool to be an ass for no reason on the internet

[midnight latch]

🤔

[shrewd night]

If being an ass is the same as not being concerned about content that doesnt matter, then yes. Yes its cool.

[spare cloud]

I just realized why they say sin rogues instead of ass rogues.

[maiden dagger]

i mean, u started commenting my way whwn i wasnt even talking to u. so.. thanks for ur opinion.. i guess?

[shrewd night]

You were speaking to someone in specific? Damn, my bad

[dire spoke]

[shrewd night]

[spare cloud]

I get sad when people post emotes from other channels

and i realize i dont have nitro

[shrewd night]

Gotta git dat nitro

[spare cloud]

Im not in any channels with good emotes anyways

[shrewd night]

Dw tophi, mutilate will fix it

[spare cloud]

FeelsBadMan

[shrewd night]

How about you gtfo with that advertisement

[spare cloud]

that profile picture though

creepy af

[maiden dagger]

nah urs tops it

[strange python]

Which build deals higher single target damage? Poison or bleeds?

[shrewd night]

Poison

Or rather, its easier to get the higher damage

[strange python]

So for camping hordes it's better to poison them... great

[spare cloud]

Are you trying to say

mine tophs it?

[final grove]

!trinkets

[chrome tusk]

List of trinkets for each spec: http://tc.ravenholdt.net/

[proper pendant]

Is there a reason I only see people with just deadly poison and not both deadly and crippling?

[viscid helm]

I mean what does it matter?

[strange python]

Killing your opponent is good, but cripling him, making his whole life awful and miserable... Dude that's some evil thing

[proper pendant]

Just curious

[midnight latch]

you want him to suffer a slow and agonizing death

rip agonizing poison

F

[vivid bone]

rip in piece agonizing poison

[shrewd night]

Was that an unironic PVE question regarding crippling poison?

[quick ice]

I don't use crippling because I have to cast 2 poisons, and because I got in trouble on nythendra fokking it onto people

[midnight latch]

aaaah the good days 😂

spreading cripple on nythendra

[shrewd night]

Nothing quite like using envenom and spawning a poison bomb under the clump

[dire spoke]

meanwhile vendetta goes WIZZ WIZZ

[midnight latch]

dude

the moment your raid dps is so low you have to get pb proc to not wipe

still gives me ptsd

I saw that 👀

[dire spoke]

👻

[shrewd night]

nobody seent nuthin

[midnight latch]

I see ev erything

👀

[sweet inlet]

Thinking of faction changing to horde, are the different race selections worth considering for dps or are they so marginal i can choose what i want (Like a blood elf for looks aswell as the M+/PVP AoE Silence)

[shrewd night]

Marginal if anything

When it comes to race it all comes down to transmog

[sweet inlet]

good to hear 😄 didn't like the idea of having to go something like orc or troll like in the past 😃

[valid moss]

but alliance already got two best races for assa rogue

also human female > any other race

[brisk forge]

Well races dosent give you orange parse, so go with what you enjoy most 👍🏻

[humble mango]

Think I can do the assassination challenge with 910 ilvl no 4set and no leggos?

[quick ice]

you can try!

[dire spoke]

use leeching poison and keep bleeds up on min 2 targets

[humble mango]

Is it easier than Havoc one?

[quick ice]

probably the easiest tbh

[humble mango]

That's what I wanted to hear 😃

I JUST got the leggo boots 😮

[strange python]

gz

[vapid moth]

Why would you want a human female? They leech your money then run off and fuck a former friend

Nah. Get a female elf

They come in many suitable heights

[weak pine]

Why not just straight up male elf?

[vapid moth]

What am I gay?

Ironically. I have a male elf

[weak pine]

Sorry did I offend your sexual orientation by proposing something on the internet?

[placid finch]

Hi, why do you want to spend vanish into envenom with mantle instead of empower a rupture?

[vapid moth]

Causw the guaranteed envenom crit simply does more damage

Thank you for being one of the few who asks a logical question

[dire spoke]

because mastery

[placid finch]

Does that change with bracers and below 30%

[vapid moth]

I still use envenom below 30 🤷🏾‍♂️

[dire spoke]

It does not change

[weak pine]

Bracers just mean more damage

Numbers Mason, what do they mean?

[dire spoke]

vanish into rup can be a gain in some situations if the timing is optimal for a pandemic refresh

[vapid moth]

That can be planned though for every vanish

[weak pine]

If it procs

[dire spoke]

you shouldn't delay any of your CDs for that tho

[patent topaz]

I vanish rupture because I use boots bracers

[placid finch]

And what it's the point to play subterfuge on pve?

[weak pine]

multi dot?

[quick ice]

massive vanish-garrotes I guess? :S

[weak pine]

nvm

[placid finch]

No point on St then

[weak pine]

I think I confused myself there

ignore my comment

[quick ice]

it was better with T20

4pc

[placid finch]

I mean a boss like dogs it seems fine but on st

It's okay

I like nightstalker

[quick ice]

almost everyone runs NS

[weak pine]

Boss like dogs

wait what

Do you like stack them all the time?

[quick ice]

you can in heroic/normal

[weak pine]

Mythic>other content

Try stacking it there

14m soaks are nice to solo

[placid finch]

No lmao xD

[weak pine]

can't cloack all of them tho

[quick ice]

[weak pine]

Feint with other damage-reduction abilities are required

Whenever I have to soak a big hit I pop both feint and crimson vial

[placid finch]

Ye I'm the soacking bitch of my raid xD

[warm parcel]

Not stacking dogs on mythic?

smh

[midnight latch]

😂

yeah clearly not top 3 world btw

all fuckin casuals here

[shrewd night]

Fucking baddies

all of you

[vivid bone]

just stack warlocks, you don't have to stack dogs then

ezmode

[jovial kite]

Not even top 3 stack

[midnight latch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hn1VxaMEjRU

[jovial kite]

Pathetic

[shrewd night]

Can you even have a top3 stack if there are only two dogs?

[jovial kite]

🤔

[vapid moth]

Wtf

[midnight latch]

🤔

[vivid bone]

:mindblown:

[jovial kite]

Good pondering tbh

[midnight latch]

yes you can

[jovial kite]

Top 3 thought

[midnight latch]

you just need weak in your raid

[shrewd night]

BOOM

[midnight latch]

cause he plays like dog

[shrewd night]

🔥

[jovial kite]

🤣

LOL

[midnight latch]

click clack

[vivid bone]

sick burn yo

[midnight latch]

:concernedcoffee:

[jovial kite]

@warm parcel

[midnight latch]

@warm parcel DID YOU GET THAT?

[shrewd night]

GEDDIT!?

[warm parcel]

What

[jovial kite]

👀

[warm parcel]

Talking to me?

[jovial kite]

👀

[midnight latch]

👀

[warm parcel]

Wanna be banned?

[midnight latch]

[stark heart]

[shrewd night]

Could I?

[jovial kite]

monkaS

[stark heart]

since when weak has any power

[midnight latch]

weak threatening to ban

[jovial kite]

👀

[midnight latch]

with joke rank

[warm parcel]

Ban from my stream

[midnight latch]

inb4 actually banned

xD

[warm parcel]

lul.png

[midnight latch]

😢

pls no

I lov u

[vivid bone]

does anyone watch your stream?

[midnight latch]

no you cant

[warm parcel]

👺

[midnight latch]

have to be top 3

[jovial kite]

👀

[stark heart]

it's invite only

[vivid bone]

lol

[warm parcel]

Might do tos mythic today

[vivid bone]

old content

[jovial kite]

Inv

[midnight latch]

residentsleeper

[jovial kite]

Need t20

[stark heart]

ToS mystic 👀

[warm parcel]

Dno if well do avatar

[stark heart]

you ain't gonna touch FA anyway

and I have proggers

[shrewd night]

So

[warm parcel]

Last time wasnt so promising ♿

[shrewd night]

Lemme get this straight

U gon do old content

But only for shiggles

[warm parcel]

For t20

Hello

[midnight latch]

t20 op op

[shrewd night]

But you wont/might not do avatar

[stark heart]

mostly for lulz yes

[shrewd night]

[warm parcel]

Im doing as mage?!?

Rogue is dead

[arctic venture]

!relics

[chrome tusk]

List of relics for each spec: http://tc.ravenholdt.net/

gray_hounds relic sheet:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vmVwWWnNhrbzi0S_qK6emjFquyUexbTmOEov7vkRjjg/edit#gid=0

[midnight latch]

ROG DISCORD ?!?!?!

[warm parcel]

Old mains be forgotten

[midnight latch]

talking about mages

this guy

[stark heart]

@warm parcel

[shrewd night]

Whats this bish doing here with mage shit

[stark heart]

old mains

[placid finch]

[midnight latch]

old mains

washed up rog

[stark heart]

dis guy promised me he won't abandon rogue

[midnight latch]

riff 2.0

[warm parcel]

Blues in #assa

[midnight latch]

wat

[warm parcel]

👉 🚪

[midnight latch]

dont be racist dude

all colors are welcome

[stark heart]

even gloomy Naya

[midnight latch]

yeah

[gaunt moat]

We don't take kindly to blues round here

[midnight latch]

gym bunny inc

[gaunt moat]

I'm. Dead.

[midnight latch]

I am accepted ok

[dire spoke]

weak

[midnight latch]

sekret personal trainer of notter

[stark heart]

nah

[midnight latch]

so I am allowed here

[gaunt moat]

He upped my program.
I couldn't even do it completly

[shrewd night]

Fucking notter being in the gym instead of banning the advertisement dudes

[stark heart]

weak don't press 2 because he gets no BF procs

so only frostbolt

[midnight latch]

and @shrewd night Shiennar fuckin loves me

[shrewd night]

Who are you?

[midnight latch]

wau

my heart

[stark heart]

this is Deekaya

[shrewd night]

Deekaya? Ye boi, u good

[gaunt moat]

He wants me to do 220 crunches.
HELLO???

[quick ice]

sub colour is kinda green-ish anyway

[shrewd night]

I dont know who Naya is, but this Lorentz guy is all good in my book.

[vivid bone]

Just do it!

[midnight latch]

@gaunt moat I hope in like 5 sets

[warm parcel]

Maan

[midnight latch]

and not a set of 220

[warm parcel]

I miss !mage too

[stark heart]

👌

[vivid bone]

3 sets of 220

[warm parcel]

We need !mage and !sephuz back

[stark heart]

sephuz was the best

[gaunt moat]

3×40 and then bycicle crunch 2×50

[vivid bone]

Are there before pictures Notter?

[gaunt moat]

How am i supposed to do that hello?

[midnight latch]

well bycicle crunches are exhausting at the beginning

[shrewd night]

Lets get pictures of those perfect bun-abs

[midnight latch]

in one week it'll be ez

trust me

[vivid bone]

I can do 220 in one week

spread over 7 days that is

[gaunt moat]

lol

[stark heart]

weak buni

[warm parcel]

Im no buni

[shrewd night]

I got so many words to describe you weak

I think the primary one is Judas

[warm parcel]

🤔

[drowsy kettle]

Is there a point in vanish into 6 point combo envenom

[warm parcel]

How do you get from weak to judas

[shrewd night]

Its both the same=

Hello?

Also, why would you get a 6 cp envenom

Unless you are wearing the class ring

Which you shouldnt

Because its bad

[drowsy kettle]

Soul ring

[warm parcel]

We talking about bible now?

[shrewd night]

Yes

[warm parcel]

Or what judas

O

Right

[hardy pewter]

on the ravenholdt class guide, on the antorus tips, what is the "binding runes" on this phrase:Binding runes if you still haven’t can be very handy during this encounter.

[stark heart]

@warm parcel word "weak" has 4 letters, illuminati has 1 eye, 4 + 1 = 5, what word has 5 letters? "Judas" weak Judas confirmed

[warm parcel]

I mean

Ive had plenty nick names

[midnight latch]

w e a k / J u d a s
a income
different length
take away a in weak
3 letters
3
Half life 3 confirmed

[drowsy kettle]

So I should stick to rupture I'm sure the guide says only envenpm with vanish if you have shoulders

[warm parcel]

These are new

[dire spoke]

that reminds me of

[shrewd night]

@drowsy kettle Yes, and then get a legendary to replace the ring. Any will do.

[warm parcel]

So was your question about rup vs env?

Or what. Cause it came out as what to do with vanish

[drowsy kettle]

So cloak and argus ring

[shrewd night]

Dont trust weak, he is a filthy mage now

Judas

[hardy pewter]

on the ravenholdt class guide, on the antorus tips, what is the "binding runes" on this phrase:Binding runes if you still haven’t can be very handy during this encounter. Google turns up nothing, never heard of binding runes 😮

[stark heart]

hm

[midnight latch]

I think its refering to vantus runes not sure thou

[stark heart]

what boss?

oh it's probably vantus yeah

[hardy pewter]

on argus, mythic part

okey thanks

[warm parcel]

Oh ye

The infinite augment rune

[analog isle]

Augment runes

[warm parcel]

As you die so many times on argus

You might aswell bind it

[hardy pewter]

havent even bought that shit, normal ones are like 30g, not cost effective

[shrewd night]

wat

Id buy it in a heartbeat just to NOT worry about having to go to the AH to get more

Price is irellevant

[stark heart]

how much infinite rune was?

[warm parcel]

I mean

[stark heart]

I don't even member

[warm parcel]

Permarune was 45k

[hardy pewter]

its 40k enough for 1400 normal ones

[warm parcel]

O 40

Ye thats why I never got it on alts

[hardy pewter]

progress almost over, not worth I use like 100 per week

[midnight latch]

I prob wiped like 400 times til the rune came out and runes where like close to 100 at that time

[warm parcel]

Never gonna spend that many runes on alts

[midnight latch]

so worht in my book

🤷

[stark heart]

spending runes on alts

[warm parcel]

What Ive gotten from lfr

Yea

[stark heart]

I use them immediately

[midnight latch]

top 3 lfr raider

[hardy pewter]

also I get more than enough from alt missions to feed main so

[stark heart]

cba even to sell

don't think they were 30g when I bought mine

[midnight latch]

well I have rune on both my chars

[warm parcel]

They were 750g during tos

[stark heart]

anyway it's quite handy

[warm parcel]

Monkas

[midnight latch]

runes were so expensive weeks ago

[warm parcel]

I also bought our realms ah empty and resold them to my guildies 😂

They loved that

[stark heart]

[shrewd night]

Of course they were expensive. Now that 99% of the raiding population has the infinite one the price has taken a massive dump.

[midnight latch]

@warm parcel war profitiering I see

[warm parcel]

500g>1k

👌 👌

[stark heart]

Scamaz @warm parcel

[warm parcel]

Good times of owning all 6ffs on start of legion

Man I love early ah shenanigans

[stark heart]

6 what?

[warm parcel]

6ff

[hardy pewter]

feather fan

[shrewd night]

6 final fantasies

[stark heart]

oh right

😄

[warm parcel]

Bis trinket m8

[midnight latch]

ff fatfingers

[stark heart]

yeah it was

[hardy pewter]

the bis trinket that cost hundreds of thousands :<

[warm parcel]

I got so many for 10k

Early on

Before people realized they are good

[signal summit]

What did u sell them fir

[midnight latch]

three fiddy

[warm parcel]

I just bought them for our guildies

[stark heart]

@warm parcel you should teach me those sekret AH techniques for next exp 👀

[shrewd night]

Knowing weak, probably your firstborn

[signal summit]

I think i bought one on frostwhisper 🤔

[warm parcel]

For what ever they were

[hardy pewter]

whats your guild so I can apply weak?

[shrewd night]

His guild isnt even top3

why would you want to apply?

[warm parcel]

Stream ah goblin?

[stark heart]

top 3 doesn't exist

confirmed by Lim

[warm parcel]

Also that one 955 pure crit ring

[midnight latch]

MEME- WHO?

[warm parcel]

Gachigasm

For like 20k

[stark heart]

AH strum?

no just tell me what to do

[warm parcel]

Dude I love watching chill ah strums

Shamemost of those streamers stopped after mop

[jovial kite]

Both momento br rogues rerolling for bfa? 🤔

[warm parcel]

No

Ill just play mage on farm

[shrewd night]

momento

[jovial kite]

Top 3 brazil

[shrewd night]

der iz onli UNO MOMENTO

[sudden flint]

Mordekaiser

[buoyant lichen]

so master ass better trait now provided you have 3?

[gaunt moat]

@warm parcel weak, refering to wanju's question
what did you mean by binding runes on argus mythic?
augment runes?

as in, just use them after you die, right?

[warm parcel]

Ye

But just cause bind>clicking

[shrewd night]

If its off the bcd, macro it to garrote

[gaunt moat]

I'm gonna rephrase that to make it clearer