assassination

[north spruce]

best leggos for m+? mantle + ?

[strange python]

your SOT was almost 90% uptime anyway so I don't know what he is talking about. You are right that nothing seems out of the ordinary. I think the biggest deal during that pull was that you whiffed your second vanish. Even if execute range, you should still to vanish > envenom with the shoulders. Another small thing is that you should vendetta and toxic blade before kingsbane in your opener, since the inital kingsbane hit (which is often the hardest hitting tick of kingsbane) is boosted by toxic blade. And you want to get your vendetta on cd asap.

[keen inlet]

Like, if you maintain envenom you're going to maintain sot anyway?

lol.

[jovial kite]

yep

[keen inlet]

And beyond that, looking at the spec itself, the different abilities

[shrewd notch]

envenom debuff's a bit longer, right?

[keen inlet]

it is beyond clear that envenom is meant to be kept up as much as possible

[shrewd notch]

you can easily let sot drop off but not envenom

[keen inlet]

Depends on how many CP you env with

[jovial kite]

3 cp both are 3 second

4cp env 4 with 5 cp 5 sec

[shrewd notch]

that's actually one thing i'm not clear on, whether sot matters during kingsbane

[jovial kite]

it does

if you play toxicblade

[strange python]

it does. it's the only part in the guide that sot is mentioned.

[jovial kite]

dpe for kb is high

and maximising sot for 12 sec is easy

[shrewd notch]

so you should be looking for env uptime and sot uptime during kb

[jovial kite]

finisher every 3 seconds

for 12 seconds

[lone junco]

You see my pong?

[shrewd notch]

you use env at 3?

[jovial kite]

optimally no

[shrewd notch]

optimally wouldn't it be a finisher every 5 seconds then, since sot is 5?

[strange python]

why 3 seconds?

sot does not pandemic.

[jovial kite]

sorry misclicked

yeah 5

[lone junco]

That sim took a long time.

Was zero panth cause I don't know how to do that in simc. But either way. /

[jovial kite]

10k is still too low ;_;;

[valid moss]

I've seen Pyllero trying to keep Surge of Toxins up (overlapping Envenom because SoT is shorter duration). Is this worth?

[shrewd notch]

sounds like it is during kingsbane

[lone junco]

22k crit?

That's a lot.

[jovial kite]

2k is 3%

[lone junco]

33%. So 74%

[jovial kite]

ur saying your baseline is 22k crit

?

[lone junco]

My base is 43

[jovial kite]

or 12k and 10k fork

[lone junco]

You get some naked.

[strange python]

@valid moss Envenom pandemic timer is 4.2 seconds (at 5cp) so technically you aren't losing anything

[tidal meadow]

@valid moss we use to do that back in EN funny you ask that because I was literally just thinking about if we do

[spice surge]

Pyllerox basicly play however he wants

[lone junco]

Np. I'll fix. Just ignore the other stats.

[spice surge]

He used to do some shit as sub even though its proven to be a loss multiple times

[valid moss]

So I shouldn't really prioritize SoT uptime and overlap my Envenoms?

[spice surge]

And we're talking like <5% here, so no massive differences

[lone junco]

3 breakpts inc. poison. Mut and flat 100

[tidal meadow]

Glad I don't watch streams and just creep you guys while reading goodies

[spice surge]

Envenom uptime is more important than SoT

I dont watch it either, i just remember the discussion 😉

[valid moss]

you use your potion at 30% boss hp or

[jovial kite]

always 30 if wrist

unless the fight demands prio damage before

like kin garoth mith etc

[valid moss]

even if my CDs are on long?

like Vanish 1:10min+

[jovial kite]

case sensitive

no point in potioning 10% left

optimally you want full uptime

and max uptime on execute

[spice surge]

If the fight is only 2 mins you should pot at 50%

[jovial kite]

^

[valid moss]

there is no 2 mins fights :D

[jovial kite]

it was an example

to simplify the situation

[valid moss]

yea ok then 30% regardless if CDs are up

[spice surge]

Record kills on hounds are almost two mins 😉 (on hc though, 3 min on M)

[valid moss]

damn, I thought you can go Nightborne for free after you complete questlines xD

[carmine flare]

Hello. Another one trying to transition from sub to sin. For vanish with mantle (after opener), what cooldowns are we to line up with vanish, and how long should we be holding vanish to do so? Assuming 1 or 3 MA relics.

[manic vigil]

For free xd

@valid moss you are cute

[valid moss]

I mean it was kinda logical for me, idk xD

[spice surge]

@feral flareasia#3404 Preferably you want TB and vendetta up for it

But if it causes you to miss a cast (over the course of the fight), its fine to do it with either of them

[keen inlet]

rip Art

[manic vigil]

Nope you gotta pay of course. I'll have to as well, just have to be a velf 😍

[jovial kite]

velf 🤤

[valid moss]

blizz gotta get those 25 shekels for dem race change wave

[manic vigil]

Exactly

Well you could also use gold. Two tokens that's 610k ish gold

I'd rather keep my gold tho

[valid moss]

im still waiting for some nightborne sims, I don't want to belive that its -12k dps loss from belf :<

[spice surge]

12k is nothing regardless

[keen inlet]

12k is everything

[spice surge]

everything

[strange python]

gotta have that 0.5% more dps

[carmine flare]

@spice surge thank you. When you say I can do it for either one of them, do you also mean that it is never a good idea to use vanish/envenom without at least one cooldown? Essentially, I have been using vanish on cooldown and am unhappy with how it affects my dps. I think I am supposed to save it for at least one of the two mentioned but wasn’t sure.

[manic vigil]

Idk if velf is a dps loss vs human? I think so. But looking like a fancy belf with cool hair void stuff is worth quite some deeps in my book

[spice surge]

Lining it up with TB should barrely delay it anything

[candid yew]

u always want a vanish in execute with all cds

[manic vigil]

So fk it

[carmine flare]

@spice surge @candid yew thanks!

[spice surge]

Iirc Envenom doesnt get increased dmg from bracers

[candid yew]

it helps by using a fight timer wa for this

[manic vigil]

Inb4 bfa reputation grind makes me wanna be human again. That would be hilarious

[spice surge]

Obv there are other sources that do, but its not as big as it might seem

[candid yew]

but dp applies kb tics

i mean u should never do it if ur wasting 1 cast

so there is no downside if u do it well

[strange python]

So I have enough wakening essence for the legendary shoulders what should I keep on ravenholt ring or vigor ring

[carmine flare]

If not envenom, should i vanish/rupture within execute if using mantle?

[spice surge]

No

[candid yew]

u still env

[carmine flare]

Okay

[candid yew]

i've been doing fine just using stuff on cooldown generally so unless ur going top 10 logs u should be fine

[strange python]

I'll keep vigor ring I like the extra talent and energy

[reef harbor]

Need crazy PB rng for top 10 logs anyway

[strange python]

The mantle should replace the damage for the Ravenholt ring right

Probably

[candid yew]

insig is prolly better than vig but just sim it

[strange python]

Ahh

[manic vigil]

Vigor ring is rather lackluster yeah

[candid yew]

ye i guess u need 10%+ for that

[frail gate]

havent been around but are there updated races like nightborne for assassination to check dps increase

the racial effect envenom dp and pbomb supposedly

[valid moss]

well I simmed myself as BELF and Nightborne is -11k/-12k dps for me

so maybe raidbots are buggy or Nightborne 1% magic doesn't affect our poison dmg

[frail gate]

Its supposed to

Least thats what I was told

[valid moss]

I don't know, for me its 12k dps loss

which is illogical because 1% magic damage racial is basically like 1% mastery

and belf racial gives you 1% crit

[spice surge]

1% crit and additional energy is also pretty good

[livid crescent]

Don’t feel bad it was a 32k loss going void elf from human T-T

[valid moss]

well 1% mastery > 1% crit, could 15 energy every 1.5min be worth 12k dps?

[candid yew]

dont u need waaay less rating for 1% mastery compared to 1% crit though?

[hollow junco]

the cloud teleport racial is rad as hell, but a little bit redundant for someone with shadowstep

[candid yew]

so it makes sense i f u think about it

[valid moss]

Mastery 48.37
Crit 44.96
for me atm

i dont know, maybe I can check it somehow

[calm grail]

I like using the cloud teleport on Mythic portal keeper

[spice surge]

Thats stat weights, not ratings

[candid yew]

in general i'd say the ratio is about 1 mast rating in % corresponds to 5 crit

[calm grail]

I'm usually orb bitch, so I use it on the shadow portal once I get the shadow orb.

[valid moss]

I have 5376 crit rating 24,44% crit
16893 mastery rating 200,93% mastery

[calm grail]

Makes it easier to find the portal ever-so-slightly

[candid yew]

u have base crit aswell

just equip something with more crit and calculate

and do same for mast

[valid moss]

if I take off legendary bracer (965 mastery) I lose 10% mastery

[lone junco]

correct bracer doesnt buff env.

Should bomb is the gold mine

[valid moss]

if I take off belt 908 crit rating I lose 2% crit

[candid yew]

ye so its 1/5

1 mastery rating gives same % as 5 crit

[valid moss]

to be exact:
201.93% Mastery -> 191.28% Mastery
24.44% Crit -> 22.17% Crit

[spice surge]

100 mastery rating is 1% mastery (for assa)

400 crit rating is 1% crit

(haste 375, vers 475 btw)

[valid moss]

so 1% crit belf > 1% magic damage?

[candid yew]

yes

and torrent

[spice surge]

But 1% magic damage isnt the same as 1% mastery

[lone junco]

1% overall damage would be a little better than the undead racial

which is like 0.6-0.7 of my overall

[valid moss]

well rip then

[spice surge]

But racial damage difference is negligible anyway

A 5-10 ilvl titanforge on one piece is gonna outweigh it anyway

Then theres belf thats OP for m+ for the extra interrupt

[valid moss]

I don't do M+

[lone junco]

I need gold to do the racial to belf eventially.

[valid moss]

only one +15 a week for my disenchanting mats

[lone junco]

but i stopped doing ah farm

[spice surge]

Its likely it gets butchered for bfa

[lone junco]

your "sad box" never disappoints for ench mats

[spice surge]

But as likely that they just leave it at nerfing the CD

[manic vigil]

@livid crescent 32k? Ouch. I'll still do it, too 😃

[valid moss]

1.5min to 2min cd if I remember right

or was it 2.5min

for blood elf racial

[lone junco]

I used it as Hpal for a holy power

[spice surge]

🤷 Idk its pretty irrelevant. As the current iteration will always be insanely strong for high m+

Assuming theres things to interrupt in bfa dungeons too

[valid moss]

1.5 min cooldown. 2.5 min cooldown. yea

still restores 15 energy

[livid crescent]

@manic vigil I did just have a feeling simc isn’t finished with them but does hurt to lose that much

[strange python]

best legos for m+ as sin?

[valid moss]

damn, maybe zandalari trolls get some good racials

[edgy anvil]

anyone else keep losing their fucking WAs?

every month or so everything just disappears

[valid moss]

do you not backup your WTF folder?

also, every month? never happened to me

[edgy anvil]

I do but I created new characters since and that would delete their own settings then

[manic vigil]

Never happened to me

How would they just disappear? You got some utility software that deletes stuff or something?

[edgy anvil]

none at all

rest of the ui is fine too, just wa

[manic vigil]

That's weird

[dense blaze]

How do I be a better assassination rogue? Guides don't seem to have much more to offer

[shrewd oriole]

: (

[manic vigil]

Get more poison bombs

Ez

[dense blaze]

I want to parse bigger, I feel like I'm doing just about everything correctly, is it all on poison bomb from there to take me to the top?

[spice surge]

depends on how high it is to the top

Cant tell much without logs unfortunately

[manic vigil]

I can't orange parse anymore either

I used to always get orange no matter what I did

[dense blaze]

See my problem is I think I have too much variance

[manic vigil]

Depends on fight length etc as well

[weary gate]

you dont have to min max with racials if you are not in top 10 guild

[manic vigil]

If the boss dies and vend is about to be ready rip

[ebon scaffold]

WTB mage meme

!Mage

😦

anyone remember how to bring out the mage pic?

😦

[manic vigil]

I wonder if I'd be better if I would finally learn to spam less. Pretty sure I'm still using way too many muti env xd

Spam dat shit

[ebon scaffold]

I wonder if someone can show me how to get the bot to show me the mage meme

😦

!rollmage

!mage

[lone junco]

apparently there was a name purge. so our guildies are scarmbling to get some old names they wanted.

[manic vigil]

Hey dracus

🖕

[lone junco]

ha

[shrewd oriole]

some guy earlier today was saying velf was like 5k dps or something

lol

[shrewd oriole]

http://prntscr.com/i97861

[lone junco]

erry bod eee. Block block block

[shrewd oriole]

http://prntscr.com/i97896

kek

[lone junco]

for comparison, what is belf or w/e

all pretty close?

[dusky rune]

@ebon scaffold
https://i.imgur.com/HNlAGF8.jpg

[shrewd oriole]

http://prntscr.com/i97940

belf is 10k over nightborne

nightborne is 10k over baseline

[manic vigil]

Nah I like flipping off dracus

Not gonna mute him

[shrewd oriole]

so belf is a flat 20k dps increase

omegalul

[lone junco]

I just wish it didnt show me the block spam

its almost as annoying as the person

[ebon scaffold]

ROFL that is one of them character slots

[lone junco]

like that guy that drew autist art with drippy stuff

[ebon scaffold]

but there was another one

a fat dude with a mage hat

and it said the same thing

haha

he is laughing

and it has 111211

[dusky rune]

Yeah we used to have a roll the bones bot too. I think it got removed

[ebon scaffold]

or something kike that

[dusky rune]

Yeah it's the LUL emote with a wizard hat and 11112

[ebon scaffold]

YEAH!

rofl

[shrewd oriole]

the rtb bot was lit

😦

[dusky rune]

[ebon scaffold]

what happened to the bot? :9

[shrewd oriole]

highest simming race is human

[dusky rune]

Probably caused too much spam

[ebon scaffold]

😢

[shrewd oriole]

feels bad not even velf is op

[manic vigil]

What does belf do besides torrent?

[shrewd oriole]

blizzardo pls

1% crit

[manic vigil]

Ah

[ebon scaffold]

i wont be ahuman rogue 😛

[dusky rune]

is the velf port any good?

[ebon scaffold]

fuck that

the velf port is insane sexy

think of a lock oportal u can throw

and use mid throw

[shrewd oriole]

yeah but then think about

[ebon scaffold]

aka say adds from coven coming and u need to swap to a different safe zoneduring a storm

[shrewd oriole]

a portable mailbox mate

[ebon scaffold]

GG throw that shit and good

or kin garoth ur running to tanks and tey blowing up double shadow...so u throw that through the beam and gg

[shrewd oriole]

velf is insanly good tho

mobility is always good

[ebon scaffold]

or there are 12 testicles spinning and u just throw it to mele range of kin

and gg

[manic vigil]

Human is pretty good. But I always wanted to be a belf for visuals alone so a velf it is

[ebon scaffold]

female velf right?

cause male velf is too homo

[manic vigil]

Duh

[ebon scaffold]

not allowed

that twirl makes me want to slam my head through my desk

[shrewd oriole]

people who play male belf / male velf

should all be executed

[ebon scaffold]

rofl

[shrewd oriole]

not because it's gay or anything

just because it's poor taste

[ebon scaffold]

ofc

[shrewd oriole]

it's a horrible race class combo

[manic vigil]

I'd include male nelf tbh

[ebon scaffold]

woah woah

[shrewd oriole]

fucking eviscerate animatin

is puke

[ebon scaffold]

male nelf is not that retarded

[shrewd oriole]

I mean

[ebon scaffold]

i want dfa for assasination

[manic vigil]

Ever tried walking?

[ebon scaffold]

that animation is sexy

[manic vigil]

As in slowly

[shrewd oriole]

the only race that is better as male

[ebon scaffold]

dude why would you walk?

[shrewd oriole]

is dwarf

and orc

[ebon scaffold]

this is not pubg

[shrewd oriole]

all the other ones female is cooler

[ebon scaffold]

TROLL rogue <--- master race

[manic vigil]

Xd

[shrewd oriole]

haste

yummy

[ebon scaffold]

not for racials i like for the looks of it

[manic vigil]

But the animation NotLikeThis

[shrewd oriole]

"I want dfa for assa"

please

[ebon scaffold]

Troll rogue..mohawk with huge tusks

[shrewd oriole]

I hope you get gunned down

[ebon scaffold]

^ rOFL

[shrewd oriole]

dfa is the most shit cancer spell

[ebon scaffold]

DFA is awesome

[shrewd oriole]

that blizzard has ever created

[ebon scaffold]

AWESOME SAUCE

looks awesome

hits awesome

[shrewd oriole]

and I hope that they take it out of sub rotation in bfa

[ebon scaffold]

i dont like sub

[shrewd oriole]

and curbstomp it

and then chew it

[ebon scaffold]

since vanilla i dont like it

[shrewd oriole]

and then spit it out

and then burn it

[grim wolf]

Does any1 use wowanalyzer for assassination?

[shrewd oriole]

it's worst than killingspree

[ebon scaffold]

zaer yeah we are wommanizers

[manic vigil]

I don't have a single male toon btw 🤔

[ebon scaffold]

womanizers

[manic vigil]

Just realized that

[shrewd oriole]

Me neither

all my classes can be belfs

so all my classes are belfs

lol

[manic vigil]

But dwarf male is alright I agree

[ebon scaffold]

dwarf warrior = awesome

[shrewd oriole]

not only that

dwarf female is

🤢

[ebon scaffold]

Tom your gf irl looks like a dwarf female

:/

[shrewd oriole]

i WISH

THOSE THIGHS

[ebon scaffold]

LAWL

alright enough monkey business i got to get back to work :/

[shrewd oriole]

🌶 😤

[ebon scaffold]

the enemies of the cartel are not going to kill themselves

later dudes

[manic vigil]

How about trolls 🤔

Male better?

Not sure

[shrewd notch]

🐺 rogue imo

[manic vigil]

Worgen 🤢

[shrewd notch]

FeelsBadMan

[manic vigil]

I'd play worgen if I could stay in human form... 😏

[dense blaze]

If I post a log can you guys roast me or potentially tell me what I'm doing wrong

[manic vigil]

Sure. The guys are a helpful bunch, they just pretend to be the toxic shits they seem to be

[dense blaze]

Well here's my last Vari kill any pointers are appreciated https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/KRMvdHyCAbXtL6f1#fight=21&type=damage-done&source=24

[lone junco]

🔥

[valid moss]

get more poison bombs is ultimate advice

[strange python]

I would if warcraftlogs wasnt a fucking nightmare on mobile

[valid moss]

build a little Ion hazikostas altar in your room

[dense blaze]

Is there a secret to getting more PB because my rogue friend in my guild seems to get them more often

[valid moss]

pray to it every morning/before you sleep

[lone junco]

@dense blaze use a TTD timer. if time <2min delay that vanish until a good time.

dont just fire it off like that

[dense blaze]

That's the kinda thing I need, I will go and get that addon

[lone junco]

I use ExorsusRT

there are WA for it as well

[strange python]

I mean. Look at how many finishers he casted compared to you. Look at if you wasted any cp.

[lone junco]

pretty sure a shitty shoulder bracer accounts for like 10% of your parse

@dense blaze and your relics are all over the place. might get rid of the ruptures for DP or BB

[dense blaze]

I amt rying to get relics, they are ass compared to my sub weapon

[lone junco]

thats allI would stress on. Shoulder is your homework.

[grim jay]

phew

so I logged in on an alt

didnt use the legendary even one time on the fight I wanted to try

thats like not vanishing with mantle

kms

[strange python]

huh?

[grim jay]

I suck

[strange python]

english translation pls

[lone junco]

@grim jay I went a year on DH without having the lvl 100 talent on my bar.

the 2min cd that you align with meta

[strange python]

chaos blades i think

[lone junco]

only have like 2days /played on him. but was always sad at how weak he was.

🥄

[grim jay]

and yet

you figured out and he is still weak?

😄

@strange python you should use google translator if you didnt understand what I just wrote

[lone junco]

nah. fine now.

[grim jay]

English > your language

dh still sucks gameplay-wise tho

[strange python]

sorry just felt like there was no context

[grim jay]

apart from the earlier conversation about vanish usage

there doesnt need to be a context

as it was a story in itself

[strange python]

I need more coffee I guess

[pure sparrow]

Yo boys , what’s the easiest way to grind relics ?

Blow metzen?

[lone junco]

Argunite vendor

I still buy iron relics there

[grim jay]

farming m+15

[solemn vapor]

^

[pure sparrow]

Thanks guys, been DE’ing my shit from arg lol

[lone junco]

eww

I gave up after about 50 shit trinkets

about 10 relics in, and have used 2

[pure sparrow]

I keep opening shoulders hoping for leggo

[manic vigil]

I used to buy trinkets, got some decent ones. Now I'm also iron relics all the way

[lone junco]

orange vendor for 1000 coins is the way to go there.

and with argus trinket being so fucking good, meh

[solemn vapor]

wait, can we get leggo from arguni thingys ?

[spice surge]

Ys

[solemn vapor]

holy s%$¨

omg

[manic vigil]

Still noobe.. Imagine a 985 mastery stat stick 😯

[solemn vapor]

thanks

[grim jay]

its not worth trying

except if you are like really really really over the line

and people struggling at iron relics... lul. 😄 hasabel drops one iirc

and high command

[solemn vapor]

hasabel... 🤔

[grim jay]

hasabel was MAlch

I think

[manic vigil]

Malch is good

Just never lucky with iron relics so far

BabyRage

[lean hill]

I got a malch/ma from lower Kara, not so great crucible trait though

[lone junco]

Ideally ill finish with 3ma 1bb 2malch

@manic vigil all i get is haste sticks. like 9 so far

[lean hill]

Clearing enough mythic bosses now that I should be able to get all my relics over 960 soon

[vast pond]

So where do we find these incomplete race rankings?

[gaunt moat]

With patience, at herodamge. soon™

[manic vigil]

@lone junco yeah I got a lot of those as well haha

What is this "patience" you speak of notter 🤔

Never heard of it

Tell me now

Xd

[gaunt moat]

it's when you ask about 40 times a day if there are race sims. as if it fucking matters.

[shut willow]

i'm still going for 3xMALCH/MASS

[manic vigil]

Toxic bunny is toxic

[shut willow]

so i can crush everything and boots it up on poison build

[manic vigil]

👀

[gaunt moat]

people are so obsessed with what race to choose. when the benefit is irrelevant.

[spice surge]

BUT I NEED THAT 10K

Cba to do 1 m+ for an upgrade, i'd rather pay 25€

./s

[gaunt moat]

and preorder expansion

[manic vigil]

I always choose race according to dat ass

[gaunt moat]

and faction change

paying 100 euro for 10k
litteraly pay to win.

[spice surge]

10k is def winning

I can agree

[manic vigil]

Implying that everyone can just boost people eleem DansGame

I pay it to look good. Is that winning or madness?

[grim jay]

so I preordered without racechanging

🤷

[spice surge]

So do i

[lone junco]

LOLOL

[spice surge]

FeelsPandaMan

[lone junco]

our ret "Look how all stats are better than strength. Maybe i shoul just wear mailLook how all stats are better than strength. Maybe i shoul just wear mail"

[spice surge]

🤔

[lone junco]

all str is just a 10% bonus

[grim jay]

well rets arent smart anyways

[lone junco]

w/e I wore cloth leather mail and plate as hpal back in the day

the only benefit is 10% bonus str.

[wise frigate]

Lets play "Guess that class!"

[lone junco]

shadow

[wise frigate]

How'd you guess?!

[gaunt moat]

@manic vigil that's the only acceptable reason.

i wanna race change to zandalari too

[manic vigil]

:ok_hand:

[gaunt moat]

i used to play troll in TBC. and now an upright troll? sign me up.

ehh.. but wait... what if nightborn is 10k more dps... 🤔

[manic vigil]

Velf means I don't have to bother my guys anymore that we need to switch over to horde so I can be a belf xd

[lean hill]

I'm surprised haste isn't higher

With the rest at 5 or something

[lone junco]

I loved the hectic add cleave weights during pk

was like 125 Mastery 5 haste

[lean hill]

Hey on giant packs that have decent HP, should I just fan rupture over and over?

[wise frigate]

I was too. It was at like 55 for a bit, but I put a ring on with 3k crit which dropped the haste value a lil

[manic vigil]

Envenom is the most important

Then apply ruptures

[lean hill]

Why would I envenom first

[manic vigil]

Because that way you deal the most dps

🤷

[lean hill]

Doesn't compute.... envenoms before bleeds?

[lone junco]

A lot of your dps come from deadly poison in aoe.

Need env buff to get that

[lean hill]

So envenom once then ruptures

[lone junco]

And pk only hits based on DP duration.

[manic vigil]

Actually confirmed by Koji somewhere

[lone junco]

So. I weave env rupture env rupture

[manic vigil]

Cba to search on my phone tho

[lone junco]

If stuff doesn't live more than like 15 sec I don't bother rupture.

[lean hill]

Yea if it doesn't live long I just hope for PB

And watch other people kill stuff

[lone junco]

The it is just FOK env FOK env.

Can still do well.

[lean hill]

lower Kara, the juicy 20 mil burst

[lone junco]

A mob death with good rupture still feeds you like >75 E. so it's not worthless

I've nver seen 20m

[lean hill]

I got a PB right after you go up from opera

On the giant group watching the show

[grim jay]

who is koji? 😄

[lone junco]

Would be nice. My luck is a 0bomb pack.

tc

[lean hill]

Pinnacle, not a sustained 20 mil. It was down to like 9 or 10 mil once they all died

[grim jay]

oh

is he new?

[soft island]

if ur killing adds that die relatively fast, just open with like 4 garrotes... decent dmg and good energy regain and then just fok env....

why bother rupture?

[lean hill]

I'm not talking about adds that Insta die

[soft island]

he said 15 seconds

thats ideal for garrotes

[lean hill]

I asked the first question and it was about stuff that lives longer

Ain't my first rodeo, I know not to rupture stuff that dies instantly lol

[soft island]

well if u wanna get energy back u might 😄 👌

[manic vigil]

Just keep env up and weave in ruptures

Depending on number of mobs that's super easy

[lone junco]

Very few people run subterfuge anymore.

[soft island]

in m+ I wonder why... its so good

[lean hill]

If I get to a point where my energy isn't going down I should just stop rupturing I take it

[lone junco]

I guess.

[soft island]

silence casters so group, energy regain and good dmg

you want 3 ruptures up

anythgin mroe is a waste

[lone junco]

Large hp trash I get the fat ruptures up. But let them drop. Unless they are my primary target.

60 sec trash mobs aren't something I deal with often.

[shut willow]

what kind of dps are you guys doing in M+

i'm usually betwen 2.0 and 2.5 overall

[soft island]

it depends on what week and what dung but roughly 2,2 - 2,5 mil overall

[shut willow]

and i swap sets with claok and AOE trinks

[soft island]

i dotn bother with cloak at all... lol

[shut willow]

the group of guys i run with is a boomkin and ele shaman

[tender adder]

I just use glaives for big packs

[shut willow]

they are convinced i'm "shit" if i can't do atleast 3-4M overall

[tender adder]

St the rest

[shut willow]

yeah

[soft island]

if I know big grp is comming I might swap to glaive and kiljaeden trinket but thats very rarelly.. like VotW when going down the elevator I do it... else no

[tender adder]

Should hit 3-4 m st on short fights

[lean hill]

It depends a lot on affixes. You will have higher numbers when you can mow down trash as opposed to bullshit like bolstering

[soft island]

would like to see ele shamy doing 3-4 M dps over all 😄

[shut willow]

i usually don't jump over 3.5 or 4M ST on opener burst - it used to jump to like 6 but something changed

[lone junco]

my instance duration is like 1.8-2.2. with trash peaks in the 6-8m bosses in the 2m-3m

[tender adder]

Poison bomb didn't proc on the mantle buff hahaha

[soft island]

like say u get PB when u use toxic blade in the opener... then i can see even 7 mil 😄

[strange python]

Did you switch to the fang trinket

[lean hill]

I love when you get a ton of pb And you glance over and are still doing 3mil on a boss lol

[strange python]

Usually neither of the fang procs are active during opener

[lone junco]

Im fang argus on all things.

[shut willow]

yes, i use singed fang all the time

[lone junco]

even with 0 users argus is so high agi

[lean hill]

Wtb amanthuls please

[shut willow]

i have a 965 mythic one

[lone junco]

990 or w.e

amanthul is a loss for me

like 3%

[soft island]

I have 945 fang and 965 Spectre... so on some fights i use specter...

[shut willow]

i have really bad luck most of the time on PB

i got 2 on mythic garothi last night

[lean hill]

I think I proc pb in dungeons more than average

[lone junco]

965 specter is way high. and good on fixed foot bosses.

if you want to sim your stuff for M+. hectic addcleave 1min isnt horrible

can get weights (ALL MASTERY)

[shut willow]

yeah we got a 965 specter from heroic, gave it to a rogue that quit playing that character the next week #feelsbadman?

[soft island]

ye sim said it too... but imagine ur fighting portal bitch.... I swich to fang then

that happend to me too pwner.. with 935 frond 😄

gave it to a fellow rogue and quit

[lone junco]

we have a decay on loot. helps out for people that kinda stop coming .

rarely have a cold turkey raider

unless they die

[soft island]

well I am not mad... not raiding mythic due to work on shifts... so I would be mad... er... madder if I was raidin

[manic vigil]

I hate talking about dps numbers in m+ tbh

How can you compare that with so many variables

[lean hill]

Too many factors for it to be worth anything.

[manic vigil]

Makes no sense to me

[lilac fable]

Got the insignia of ravenholdt ring as first leggo, is it thrash? Used to be good, right

[lean hill]

If you +3 it, your dps was fine lol

[soft island]

well if ur runnin +15 and u have 2,4 and the rest of you have 1,6 ... u can kinda compare 😄 expecially when they didint want to inv you coz u sux and have 0 mythic score 😄

#triggered

[lone junco]

@manic vigil I have trends and expectations, but yeah the instances and affixes matter. the only reason I care would be trinket wise for trash. and have found self buffs better than drops.

[manic vigil]

It depends on your group and the tank, really. If you pull 50mobs, of course your dps is ridiculously high etc

[fallow river]

people wont leave my appartment and I wanna play wow whate do I do!!!!

[soft island]

generally speaking over 2M dps total in a whole run is good enougb for like 17-20 right? if everyone else is pulling the same weight... but they wont always do

[manic vigil]

If weak sends me a tank and healer and they pull half the dungeon then I'm gonna have big dick deeps as well 🤷

[soft island]

rythmic, try to fart alot... works for me....

[grim jay]

or just get some huge meatballs and kick them out

[hoary copper]

You could just start stripping, they might leave after that

Depends on how much you like these people

[spice surge]

Yeah instead of politely telling people to leave just start stripping

SeemsGood

[hoary copper]

Oh wait are we giving serious advice now on such things? 🤔

[strange python]

IS there any moment where you can seek out a combo point when you're already at 4?

[manic vigil]

Oh I also found the thing

[strange python]

Anyone else is a nightborne here?

[zealous dew]

lol nightborne

[strange python]

Boner

[spice surge]

🤔

[strange python]

Fok me

why would you? BE/HUM

no subrace

That moment born gets autocorrect

1% magicdmg is nice

nein

Doch

[lilac fable]

So I've read some different information in guides and I'm not sure what is right. Should I hold on to Toxic Blade to line it up with the last part of kingsbane or should I just use it on cd?

[strange python]

Cd

[hardy pewter]

if you read different information in guides some of those you´re looking at are bad.

[lilac fable]

I suppose the pinned guides here have the most accurate and updated infomration ?

[strange python]

I mean the pin guide literally says you can either use it for kingsbane or on cooldown.

so it's not an irrelevant question

The general consensus is to use it on cooldown. Because, if you use it for Kingsbane, the longer the fight lasts: the more potential toxic blade casts you will be missing

[lilac fable]

One more question, the guide says to use FoK for 2+ targets. Does this change with the aoe ring?

[dense blaze]

The what

[strange python]

I actually have no idea. Never used that ring.

[lilac fable]

Insignia of Ravenholdt

[strange python]

The insignia

[dense blaze]

Good question

[strange python]

with the recent buffs to mutilate, I want to say yes

[manic vigil]

I'm not sure about FoK on 2t anyway tbh

[strange python]

same.

[shrewd notch]

it was on par even at 1 target for a little while

[late crypt]

guys here is my first boss logs can some one check it and tell me whats wrong : https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/THBW6Lvqf1pbrn2R#fight=9

[manic vigil]

@shrewd notch so?

[shrewd notch]

seems like if it was about the same at 1 target, and if they didn't nerf it by over 50%, it'd still be better on 2

[strange python]

@late crypt 50% uptime is YIKES. Even on my worst pulls for mythic garothi I have ~70% uptime.

on envenom I mean.

[shrewd notch]

you've got more cp generation in addition to more damage

[manic vigil]

I doubt that

[civic palm]

FoK CP gen is awful.

compared to MUT

[manic vigil]

Exactly

[civic palm]

On 2 target specifically.

MUT has 50+ percent crit, FoK does not and requires a lot of targets to make that up.

[manic vigil]

Seems like you missed a couple patches kauda

😃

[shrewd notch]

ye, i mean to compare what fok vs mut was

[strange python]

@late crypt your damage should never be dropping to zero. Your dots should still be ticking away when you does the eradication. If you are quick you can reapply your dots just before he does it.

Also, vendetta+kingsbane is not a good opener.

[zealous dew]

😄

[strange python]

The sim APL was wrong about that.

[shrewd notch]

🤔

[civic palm]

Ven+KB is fine, not optimal but fine.

[shrewd notch]

not sure what you mean

[civic palm]

There are way better options though.

[strange python]

yes that's what I mean.

I guess it isn't horrible

[late crypt]

@strange python what is the ideal openning ?

[civic palm]

In the guide.

Those work better.

[strange python]

the typical. garrote mutilate rupture vendetta toxic blade kingsbane vanish envenom spam

although what I don't about the guide, it ignores the fact that toxic blade still has ~2 seconds left after the shoulder buff runs out.

so you shouldn't "envenom spam until shoulder runs out" per se.

more like until toxic blade runs out

[late crypt]

my openning is garrote multi rupture vendetta toxic kingsbane vanish enve multi enve

[manic vigil]

Starting with vendetta is slightly better actually

But I still don't do it sometimes

[strange python]

oh, I derped. I was comparing your logs to someone elses and they used the vendetta kb

[late crypt]

my sim dps is 1.8

[strange python]

that's surprising. your gear looks like it can hit ~2 mill.

[calm grail]

So is SimC simming new racials correctly? I read the pins, but I also saw people saying that Void elfs were still less than human.

[strange python]

Not sure. No one seems to give a straight answer on that

I think if you are an allied race, simc ignores racials completely right now.

they all seem low.

[keen inlet]

[manic vigil]

I have no idea sorry

[strange python]

care to enlighten us Don

[late crypt]

my pieces are bis but not very much higi ilvl

[manic vigil]

All I know is that I'll switch to velf when I get home

Dps loss or not

😃

[late crypt]

my weapon and 2 lege gives me tons of ilvl

[strange python]

same. but nightborne.

their heritage armor is 🔥

[late crypt]

connor can u send me your own logs then i can compare

[lone junco]

Zzz

[strange python]

Nah. I don't think I'm a very good sin rogue model.

You can search for the top logs for any fight

[manic vigil]

Discord can't decide if it wants to be dead or not 🤔

Zombie discord

[keen inlet]

Yeah I'm having issues with it

Thought it was just my work

nope

[manic vigil]

No it's on and off all the time for me

[strange python]

@late crypt https://www.warcraftlogs.com/rankings/17#boss=2076&class=Rogue&spec=Assassination

[manic vigil]

Also I saw people typing and their messages appearing above the one I just typed

[strange python]

sort by item level or whatever. Will help you more than looking at mine

[manic vigil]

Time travel 😳

[strange python]

are you on mobile?

[manic vigil]

Yeah at work

[keen inlet]

https://i.imgur.com/BXwlow7.gifv

When you get 30% PB for a fight

[manic vigil]

😂

[strange python]

what happened to dadghar

[lone junco]

good meme mash

[strange python]

the monster mash!

[keen inlet]

legit spoilers tho, so sad when Khadgar leaves at end of silithus quests

[lone junco]

who?

i keed. he is the floating head guy.

[keen inlet]

"why are alliance and horde fighting, just came together to save the world from a corrupted god and now they're fighting again"

"I'm out peace"

like the Lorax basically

[lean hill]

Don you ruined the questline and the lorax for me. Way to go

[keen inlet]

grats

[strange python]

Maybe I have amnesia but I don't remember him leaving.

I tend to not absorb anything that happens while questing though.

[keen inlet]

he flies off in crowform

[shrewd notch]

do they have more quests out there since the first week? i haven't been back to check

[keen inlet]

idk, i did them on ptr

[strange python]

no there's not anymore

kill some bugs and stuff. meet magni again. khadgar 's letter. and apparently he fucks off too.

[crystal fox]

another 1000 essences made, gonna wait for next lego drop tho, dont trust it doesnt affect blp :p

[wise frigate]

It was confirmed by blues that it doesn't.

[strange python]

you mean you have 2000?

[spice surge]

It doesnt affect it

I got one on my priest 20 mins after buying one

But you do you

[crystal fox]

alright i googled it

imma use iiit

[manic vigil]

@crystal fox you can borrow my tinfoil hat

I got you

[crystal fox]

wish me luck

i want shoulders

[manic vigil]

Nah

[crystal fox]

taking bets, guess what i got

[manic vigil]

🤷

I finally got them all and now I'm bored xd

[crystal fox]

cinidaria,the shit

[dense blaze]

Outside of Kingsbane do I want to keep Surge of Toxins up or do I want to focus on envenom uptime only?

[manic vigil]

Can't win can you

[lilac fable]

Hey boys, is death from Above ever worth it in m+ ?

[strange python]

focus on envenom, surge of toxins will have a perfectly fine uptime on it's own.

[crystal fox]

5 legos to go, back,boots,shoulders,cloak,ravenholdt

[strange python]

no @lilac fable

[crystal fox]

should be getting another one tonight/tomorrow

[strange python]

back cloak

they are the same, no?

[crystal fox]

they are

oh i typed it twice

shoulders,back, boots,ravenholdt and sephuz, that's the correct one

guess which one im getting next

[lone junco]

@crystal fox belt is bis for odyn. so dont delete it

[crystal fox]

sephuuuuz

why would i delete it?

can i?

[dense blaze]

Now I noticed in the guide it mentions to keep Surge of Toxins up for the last few ticks of Kingsbane, would I also want to keep it up for the entire duration?

[strange python]

yes. the last few ticks just hit the hardest.

[gentle compass]

but is it worth delaying Surge of Toxin by more then 5 secs to get it to line up

[strange python]

what do you mean

[regal cape]

Why would you need to delay 5 secs

[dense blaze]

Perhaps he is talking about

[regal cape]

With proper play you have SoT up for all of KB

[gentle compass]

sorry got confused with toxic blades

[regal cape]

Well the question of tboncd or the hold for things is a tale as old as time my laf

Lad

[stark heart]

[crystal fox]

🥄

[hoary copper]

I have bracers and shoulders, do I really want to continue trying for essences?

last 2 essences that's what I ended up with

[exotic glen]

depending on your offpieces, some other legos might sim higher

[stark heart]

[exotic glen]

oh shit its lorentz

[stark heart]

[wise frigate]

[hoary copper]

KJB sims pretty high despite having Golg's and shadow fang (tho the fang is only like 930)

[stark heart]

Well you shouldn't compare it to only other trinkets since it occupies legendary slot

[still pewter]

So does sephuz not work for rogues?

Like the move speed

[strange python]

it works per se but it is not good

oh, uh... idk

[exotic glen]

why wouldnt it? lol

[hoary copper]

I figured it simmed higher cause my trinks were crap

[still pewter]

https://puu.sh/zfdl0/9ad0ab0cc6.png

[strange python]

oh my

[still pewter]

No speed?

[stark heart]

Nice nudes

[crystal fox]

bewbs

he he he

[stark heart]

Speed it tertiary

It affects move speed directly and it's now not visible in default ui

[strange python]

the character screen does not show movement speed

[still pewter]

https://puu.sh/zfdns/a55775f27b.png

[keen inlet]

Awkward

[crystal fox]

only shows you speed rating

not %

[strange python]

that's a different stat (but it does the same thing)

[still pewter]

Whats that addon called that shows all stats?

On panel

DejaCharacterStats

Dw

[tender adder]

Is there a way to see how much dmg you prevented with the use of feint on logs?

Looking at my imonar pulls

[eager hearth]

Doesn't sephuz only increase speed when you cc/interrupt?

Like pretty sure there's no base movement speed...

[gritty furnace]

looking for a little help. Only pulling like 70-75% parse for my ilvl in antorus. What could i be doing wrong. heres a little SS to reference.

https://gyazo.com/635cee5046d8d8653a70b2b8b70b491e

[crystal fox]

22% haste, wow

[tender adder]

Less haste more crit and mastery

[eager hearth]

Yeah seems like a lot of haste, and your horn vers trink is meh.

[gritty furnace]

yeah SUPER unlucky with trinkets

[hoary copper]

If I get below 170% mastery it seems like I can feel it.

[gritty furnace]

ive been fighting for less haste but cant seem to get the crit mastery pieces im looking for at a decent ilvl

[tender adder]

Look at the stat % on the top parseing rogues and follow suit

[eager hearth]

Try doing dht for rings and neck

[gritty furnace]

ive got some pieces but its like going from 953 ilvl to 938

[hoary copper]

I'd rather be lower ilvl and have better stat positioning than higher with crappy imo

[tender adder]

You'll parse better at 938 lol

[eager hearth]

Also 4 piece seemed to work well for me, I still have to use lfr 915 gloves cause of the dps bonus it gives

[still pewter]

Nvm with deja i was able to see it change.

But crafted boots MS doesnt work while stealthed?

[hoary copper]

I'll have to look for that stats addon

[eager hearth]

Dejacharacter stats

You can even hide ones you don't want to show

[hoary copper]

yea that seems helpful

How many ilvl is the 4p generally worth for T21? I'm still missing 2 pieces so trying to figure out if lfr would even be worth it

[gritty furnace]

935 horn of valor or 945 Gorshalachs legacy?

[eager hearth]

Both trash imo lol

[still pewter]

Also does this neck only work in legion content?

https://puu.sh/zfdKH/95b4c8ca0e.png

Because im yet to get it to proc

[eager hearth]

You can sim them, but I would try to spam upper Kara for eye of command

[gritty furnace]

37 upper runs on mythic 13-17 in the past 2 weeks and nothing 😦

ROFL

im dedicated though

[spice surge]

Where else would you find enemies that yield exp or honor? @still pewter

[alpine bison]

How hard is it to switch from outlaw to sin?

[strange python]

one button

sin has a low skill floor. not hard to get into.

[alpine bison]

Is it like the arcane of rogue specs?

[strange python]

no. outlaw is the arcane of rogue specs.

well

[stark heart]

Out

[strange python]

outlaw is more the survival of rogue specs

arcane is so wildly different than the other mage specs

and isn't typically dead weight. unlike survival.

[grim jay]

funfact

survival typically isnt dead weight

bcs those who play surv actually play it well

[strange python]

yea, the logs sure justify that.

🤔

[grim jay]

they do

if you look at it for hunter only

[vestal wren]

race sims on herodamage 😮

[strange python]

o shit son

LUL nightborne

[vestal wren]

ye disappointment of the preorder races

[stark heart]

Nightborne

Why even allow to be rogue when racial is magic damage

[vestal wren]

but we have magic damage

[strange python]

well nature damage is magical.

[vestal wren]

some at least

[stark heart]

Yeah but still not 100%

[strange python]

how much do you think belf will go down with arcane torrent cd nerf

[stark heart]

The nerf is for bfa iirc

[strange python]

yes..

[stark heart]

Spec will change next exp

So there is 0 reason to even guess

[late crypt]

@strange python i check your log and i realized that u did so many multilate envenom was is it all crit or u did envenom 3 cp ?

[strange python]

🤔 I never linked you my logs

[dense blaze]

If you see people mutilating once and envenoming they likely got a 4 cp crit

[strange python]

I showed you wear you can search for the top logs for any fight though.

[late crypt]

i saw ranking 17th and asumed that it yours

[strange python]

nope

a rather odd assumption

humblebrag. I was rank 7, back when 1.8m was good.

[sage wing]

I just got the soul Ring. Should i be taking DS or Anti as my other talent

[lone junco]

@fast nacelle not bad

[sage wing]

For Posion Ass

[wise frigate]

976 🤢

[lone junco]

fat bombs

[dense blaze]

Must be nice being able to reclear 😔

[midnight shuttle]

What's the best way to AoE as assass? Have 175% mastery, shoulders, and grand army ring.

[tacit steppe]

pray to rngesus

[midnight shuttle]

I know I use fan of knives, but should I try to get bleeds up on everything as well or just spam eviscerate?

Maybe a mixture of both?

[stark heart]

You rupture if it lives long enough

And keep Env buff

And fok it

[midnight shuttle]

Okay, thanks!

[stark heart]

And pray hard

Very hard

[hoary copper]

and fok harder

3 minute Var damn

[sage wing]

Deep Strata Or anticpation when running the SOUL ring

?

[midnight shuttle]

Deeper stratagem.

[sage wing]

ty

[crystal fox]

yay got shoulders

[hoary copper]

Use another essence?

[crystal fox]

killed garothi

[hoary copper]

Apparently essences are less your friends than drops

[crystal fox]

3 essences,3 bottom legos

prydaz,valeera,cinidaria

[gusty plinth]

how assa doing on high + keys

20+

[hoary copper]

hmm I've used 2 essences, 2 top leggos. bracers, shoulders. Drops were KJBW and Talent ring. Rng is so fun

[lone junco]

fine

[stone fable]

I've been playing with Sin recently. The dps seems pretty pitchy. Does the proc from poison bombs factor into that, or is it just a "somewhere between 2mil and 1.68 on the same fight" spec?

[lone junco]

@gusty plinth a few people report doing 25s fairly well.

[fast nacelle]

@lone junco didnt even have that much pb idk what happened

[gusty plinth]

@lone junco okay thanks

[lone junco]

@fast nacelle noticed that. only 9% and good bomb at shoulder, but just really really high average damage.

[full sandal]

!trinkets

[chrome tusk]

List of trinkets for each spec: http://tc.ravenholdt.net/

[fast nacelle]

ye

only 34% envenom crit

[loud notch]

which race do you guys play as rogue?

[grim jay]

draenei

[midnight shuttle]

night elf

[dense blaze]

Human of course

[fast nacelle]

@lone junco first i thought gg high PB dmg.. then i was like: nop thats not the reason... then i checked envenom crit.. nop also not the reason..then i was like: alright... i ll take it

but having 2 big dick spikes prob helps on that fight duration

[lone junco]

your avg is like my bracer boot. but then the peaks

[grim jay]

oh boys

gearing a new rogue for the other faction is frustrating af

[hoary copper]

Idk with the new leveling system if I'd have the patience to level a character from 1 or lower level

[grim jay]

thats why I brought every char up with raf before

some on the other faction etc

actually if you still have the old raf active its much better than before

[hoary copper]

I have all my characters at 110 except for war, hunter, dk and DH. if I care enough about one I can always boost it with bfa preorder

Never got to use raf

[earnest forge]

any tips on getting the hidden appearance folks?

[mental aurora]

Assass specifically? Just kill shit in the underbelly. It’ll drop eventually.

[keen inlet]

step one: go to underbelly
step two: kill rares

step three: repeat

[mental aurora]

I got it passively just from running around down there when I was bored

[keen inlet]

I got mine after the 7th I think

my sub one took forever tho

[weak isle]

got mine on my 16th or something

[keen inlet]

like 30+ chests

[crystal fox]

yeah they have buffed all hidden drops

[keen inlet]

really dumb

and still haven't got the blue outlaw

[mental aurora]

Yeah sub took a while. Luckily the scenario is still pretty fun

[keen inlet]

granted, I never run those dungos

if I pick a random it's always eye, brh, or DHT

[mental aurora]

I’ll run anything other than arcway or SoT

[keen inlet]

rng is rng 🤷

[mental aurora]

I really, really like the aesthetic of SoT tho. Just sucks that the trash gives me stage 5 cancer.

[lone junco]

heroic group finder is just trash cleave anyway

cancer is cancer. nothing in a game is cancer.

[keen inlet]

true, but this gave him stage 5 cancer

[keen inlet]

I assume through proprietary download

[lone junco]

I guess if you start retaining fluids and grow a massive fibroid.

nah. slinging cancer is for fucking fools and idiot children.

[keen inlet]

bad day, Noobe?

[lone junco]

nah

[keen inlet]

spec-related question

at what point would you say it's worth considering exang versus tb

is there a stats point

[lone junco]

high crit.

[keen inlet]

define "high" at this point in the xpac

[lone junco]

if you can get around 40 flat, EP TB becomes about equal to MP TB

[earnest forge]

Aaah okay, nice. Thanks guys 😃

[keen inlet]

somebody asked me the other day and I didn't have an answer

[lone junco]

i dont stack vers. just Crit mastery. keeps my gear fluid to both bulids.

3vend + BB or DP is nice, env or rupture is where we split.

can push gear around and get 33/180 or 40/140

same relics, they come out at about the same dps.

[mental aurora]

I can’t drag myself above 150% mastery. Haven’t seen a good mastery piece drop in forever.

[lone junco]

big slots are rings.

I have 2 2400 crit /medium M and one 2400M/ vers

but nah> i cant do the high mastery. cant for the life of me get the 27crit 210 mastery that makes shoulder bracer godly

[mental aurora]

I’ve been using insignia of ravenholdt for forever. It’s pretty much a stat stick outside of a few fights, but I’m still waiting on boots and bracers, so mantle+ravenholdt will have to do for now

[lone junco]

insig is very very high crit. Ive seen a few people running insig/boot

[mental aurora]

Depending on how many bosses I kill on farm next raid, i should have enough essence for a leggo token. Only 4 left for sin; crown, bracers, boots, and talent ring. It’s basically 50/50 i get something good.

[grim jay]

how is that depending on how many bosses you kill

"on farm"

[dense blaze]

Just kill them all 🤔

[grim jay]

ye

[dense quest]

yeah

[ionic badge]

btw, dont buy a lego til you get one to drop. it resets your bad luck percentage

[grim jay]

no

it doesnt

[mental aurora]

No it doesnt

[grim jay]

its just the addon

[ionic badge]

i was at like 60%

bought lego

at 50% now

either im super unlucky

or it does

[grim jay]

it is blueposted. it doesnt reset it. its just the addon

[mental aurora]

The thing is, my guild isn’t the fastest, so “farm” for us is garothi + coven, agg, and argus.

[grim jay]

you could even lfr the other bosses @mental aurora