@pale heart why.
#assassination
gaunt moat
still pewter
Are logs taking forever to upload for anyone else today?
vernal adder
📌
grim trellis
"• Use Vendetta on cooldown with at least 80 of your energy missing." what is the reasoning behind this
thorn needle
Cause vendetta grants you energy
open arrow
Won’t cap your energy
thorn needle
which you would be wasting otherwise
open arrow
60 in use then another 60 over time
grim trellis
ah I see. thank you both
lone junco
@still pewter wcl was crashing last night.
grim trellis
another question. do DoTs get buffed retroactively or snapshot at the time of application? if I were to trinket after using Rupture would it affect its damage should I trinket before applying
or should*
still pewter
Why are so many logs being reported 🤔
open arrow
You’d have to reapply
open arrow
Really?
warm parcel
Snapping was removed like 4 years ago
amber sleet
^
warm parcel
Give or take
warm parcel
What
open arrow
Like to get the night stalker buff
You’d have to reapply to break steath
Thought it worked the same with all the trinkets and such too
warm parcel
You dont have to specifically reapply
fathom wyvern
Question then since were on the subject of dynamic dots. New to sin so plz be gentle. Why don’t we save vanish til closer to the end of opener and rotation since it seems that the dots increase over time
warm parcel
If you cast rup while stealthed ns will buff it
fathom wyvern
Bigger buff with shoulders and stuff
open arrow
If you have shoulders you can reset at 5 secs, and can get a 36 sec night stalker buff on rupture
warm parcel
You want to vanish as soon as possible to get cd going
fathom wyvern
So the cd is bigger than the extra dmg from saving then
open arrow
It’s a 50% damage increase on a rupture
strange python
Have to magic a vpn
ancient sonnet
mantle+boots on kin or mantle+bracers still?
fathom wyvern
So vanishing more towards end of kb
warm parcel
Just vanish as guide suggests
fathom wyvern
Roger that chief
shrewd night
Mantle boots Nathan depending on raid dps
might be worth with bracers if you spend a lot of time without adds to burn boss
spice surge
@fathom wyvern You want your vanish to be while TB is active. And delaying TB to line up with the end of kb loses you casts of tb in the long run which isnt worth it
shrewd notch
@fathom wyvern it sounds like you're thinking vanishing halfway through kingsbane will make kingsbane more powerful. using nightstalker, only the next spell you cast is empowered. nothing that's currently active gets empowered.
lone junco
Shoulders. Buffs Kb if aligned.
spice surge
Well not with NS, but the crit does ofc
strange python
question to the pro's here; when using Vigor instead of DS, should I rup @ like 3 cp's or still 4? and should I still only envenom with 4+ cp's?
fathom wyvern
@shrewd notch makes sense. I was just thinking about the dynamic nature of dots and totally derped on the nightstalker empowerment on cast
shrewd notch
ya you got it 😃
fathom wyvern
I figured there’s a reason we do what we do but I still like to know why
shrewd notch
i mean you energy cap a lot during the standard opener too. i think the idea is you want to get your cds rolling sooner rather than later for an overall dps increase over the long term
it could be something else
spice surge
Did you not read my message? 😦
strange python
@lone junco any input? 😃
My problem, while testing rotation, seems to be energy starvation
fathom wyvern
Nah I got you eleem was just getting kaudas first
lone junco
Real outrage tho. Is that fucking Roy deetrice changing voices for chars between books.
strange python
lone junco
@strange python maybe later.
lone junco
I'm at work. Need to do a few things.
strange python
cool
spice surge
@strange python Rupture doesnt do more damage the more cp you use. Unless rupture has fallen of id say 4+
strange python
hmm
spice surge
because otherwise its energy inefficient because you have to refresh sooner
lone junco
@jovial kite I see a bleed problem. We ran 3h for 20. And the dps was so high it ate my bracers.
dire spoke
What's EP Vigor using in general again? Insigna?
fathom wyvern
Do any of the dots do more dmg the more cp you spend then or is it just a longer duration?
spice surge
No just longer duration
dire spoke
Can't remember what weak is running
spice surge
And thus more energy efficient
strange python
but @spice surge how about the envenom tho, still @ 4 cp or more right?
fathom wyvern
Well sin just sounds like it got a lot easier
spice surge
Yes
strange python
it doesnt suddenly become like 3 cp's or w/e
okay, wasn't sure
so u can waste a lot of cp's
when youre @ 3 cp'
cp's* and crit mutilate
2 cp's wasted
but yeh
fathom wyvern
Coming from sub so hitting those big 6 cp finishers is big in my mind
Sins gonna take some getting used to
calm grail
Hey what's the best new race for Sin and why is it Void Elf?
clever mural
because 5% damage proc?
spice surge
Mut isnt guaranteed crit, so you'd generally not waste too much using it at 3 cp
orchid cove
its really not that big of a dps difference lol
keen inlet
void elf
spice surge
Getting that 5% right after vendetta/kb/tb window also happens 😄
calm grail
Yeahhhh
I was averaging anywhere from 19 to 24% uptime though.
So it's in line up the other 1% increase as I guess, unless you get it at opportune times.
🤷
spice surge
Its almost as if its intentional 😉
dire spoke
I don't see why nborn should be better than belf since sin has nature damage
spice surge
Isnt it just all magic dmg?
fathom wyvern
Trees != zoopy zappy
orchid cove
isnt nature considered magic dmg lul
wise frigate
Yes.
fathom wyvern
According to my third grade science class
wise frigate
Anything other than I think Chaos or Physical is Magic AFAIK.
Chaos might even be magic now that I think about it.
spice surge
Chaos is also magic i think
cosmic nacelle
chaos is everything
spice surge
It gets buffed by all schools on argus
warm parcel
chaos picks the school that has the least resistance
fathom wyvern
Chaos is a ladder
clever mural
Ring from arcway buffs poison damage?
strange python
When refreshing rupture and subsequently envenoming, do you consider surge of toxins uptime? Or do you refresh rupture asap and mut in an attempt to refresh rupture and env again before the previous env buff runs out? Hard to explain, I think I am confused.
spice surge
Yes reim
orchid cove
@strange python you mostly will only look for surge of toxins / envenom not overlapping during kingsbane
spice surge
Envenom uptime is more important than sot
lone junco
My snippy tool on my work pc isn't working. Guess I'll just have to pack it up b
@strange python you can sim hectic add cleave 1min and see how close they are.
Belt is aoe and heals. Insig is a cone but full fight.
strange python
Ah yeah no prob didnt even consider it
warm parcel
@wise frigate physical is one of the schools
wise frigate
But it's not considered magic damage for buffs though I thought.
IE Nibble, that racial proc.
lone junco
@strange python remember you would mut in cleave then. FOK would be dead.
warm parcel
chaos?
Take argus fex
Chaos strike will gain bonus dmg to what ever add you wanna hit
wise frigate
No I'm talking physical.
warm parcel
Cause chaos just picks the highest dmg school
wise frigate
We've establish Chaos counts.
spice surge
I know chaos used to get bonus from nibble ring, but back then it worked on physical too
So idk
lone junco
@jovial kite heal ratios. 3healers for 20raiders. Skews performance curves.
warm parcel
Nibble and nb racials should affect chaos too
lone junco
you are going full 
ive dodged the rupture ones. to stay flex on tb
I guess you can play w/e now.
patent topaz
Is bleed spec competitive atm? My poison spec sims really low. My relics are mainly rupture/ma
lone junco
just bind the ring to your vanish
it will go off for opener, and then 3rd vanish
dont waste it mid block at 3mins unless ttd is short.
lone junco
yes
patent topaz
1.860m is a really shit sim for 962 gear, my monk alt sims 100k less and doesnt even have 4piece
strange python
More than my lock
patent topaz
Trying to figure out why, might as well try assa because im getting increasingly triggered by sub
patent topaz
I like big eviscerates. But im watching football and stuff during raids so im no focused 100%. Feels im doing worse every week
lone junco
@jovial kite that fish
some of these peaks are getting good
and the bomb from fish is good.
ashen fossil
Both specs sim at 2mil for me, but playing sin for mythic progress makes my life so much easier.
patent topaz
I am mechanics bitch because cant trust people to not be shit
lone junco
good for sin ^
jovial kite
no eoc atm
lone junco
the downtime is not bad.
jovial kite
only 940 which is shit
patent topaz
Portal keeper orb runner as sub 👌
lone junco
I cant answer that.
strange python
k
ashen fossil
It's an artefact weapon trait
ashen fossil
Passive
clever mural
Well i simed nightborne and voidelf and they worse then blood\worgen for about 30k
lone junco
@strange python 4p sin is energy return from deadly poison crits
patent topaz
Worgen rogue 💯
lone junco
wtf
our enhance
959
nine fifty nine
too bad that sim is about 200k above his output.
wise frigate
Watafak lol
wise frigate
I sim at 300k behind him at the same ilvl
patent topaz
Im 963 as sub and sim 2m with a specter
strange python
1.6m
lone junco
I could swap a few off pieces and get to 960. and it actually goes down 50k
but i beat my sim occasionally
wise frigate
Bleh
wise frigate
Yeah with good relics I go up a lot.
lone junco
my 915/920 t20 beats now 960 shoulder/960 glove
wise frigate
(oh not talking to me)
lone junco
np. my relics are in a junk spot ish.
jovial kite
i got no bbs
weary tundra
can you compare racials on raidbots?
fervent kettle
guys how do i activate my voidelf after i completed the scenario ? 😄 where can i transform lool
patent topaz
I use 20 2p (945, 930) and 4p 21 with boots, bracers, pantheon and 955 fang but my relics are trash
fervent kettle
so after unlocking it you seriously have to pay for a race change to become one of the races ?
so every player has to pay a race change if they want to keep their character and not remake or what ?
brisk forge
Well its like with everything else in wow 🤑
lone junco
or level up
patent topaz
Yea, it is a new race, what did you expect
crystal fox
its not like you were able to switch to goblin,worgen,belf,panda for free
im not counting spacegoats cause no one wants that anyway
jovial kite
rofl
actually
exsang sims still higher
with 6 lower ilvl
with current relics
@lone junco
patent topaz
I should sim exsang with my relics
strange python
You guys aren't answering his question
At all
@fervent kettle character creation screen, bottom left, "allied races"
brisk forge
I did?
strange python
You do not have to pay for a race change to become one of the allied races
crystal fox
ofcourse you do
brisk forge
Ofc you have to race change
strange python
No u don't
If you want your main to be one yeah
But you can just create one lol
crystal fox
that's what he was asking
lone junco
@jovial kite the 5ilvl Agi from the trinket buffed my Exang by 50k
brisk forge
That was the point lol
lone junco
Might just have better agi weight by far
strange python
Oh wow I'm sorry
wise frigate
Damn Outlaw pulling ahead again
strange python
I'm just stupid
brisk forge
😘
strange python
wise frigate
Helps I got Memeskins and a 910 CoF.
strange python
What spec has the most mash
lone junco
outlaw is fast mash
strange python
I might try it then
lone junco
really like 80
72
if you are in a cleave fight with m4d spam it goes up from there.
strange python
Also can demon hunters wield daggers
wise frigate
Yeah cleave with MfD is insane APM haha
jovial kite
yeah im keeping my current relics
wise frigate
It's hard to keep up sometimes.
strange python
Demon hunters can into daggers? I'm gonna try and transmog farm black temple or hfc
lone junco
good place to be. fuck vers.
strange python
I want shard of azzinoth
hollow trail
No willow
strange python
:(
strange python
Axes is wrong I think
hollow trail
they CAN hold axes and swords
lone junco
I gave mine some red/green axe
hollow trail
i have a DH, he is holding axes. soooo
lone junco
and the blade of the basalisk. cause why not.
strange python
I just need something that can hold them so that the transmog goes to my appearance tab
Dh can skip a lot of the raid so that's why I was wondering
hollow trail
you can collect the shard on your DH and use it on your rogue
jovial kite
trying insig atm
hollow trail
but your DH wont be able to play dress up with it
lone junco
@jovial kite the anti insig high crit?
strange python
When I say wield I mean weapon skill
jovial kite
ds
strange python
Can dh hold daggers
raw rune
What abouts are you lads simming at now?
strange python
Then I won't get the appearance
lone junco
insig boot would be interesting. for bad bracer fights
raw rune
I sim like 2.18 :/
lone junco
please god get some top 10s.
strange python
I'm afraid to sim lmao
hollow trail
@strange python i collected the shard of azeroth on my DH and im using the mog on my rogue..... you will get the appearance
jovial kite
coven probably
jovial kite
i havent gotten worse than rank 5 yet
strange python
Maybe it's new
hollow trail
¯_(ツ)_/¯ yeah idk
lone junco
Im really concerned about bracer fish potential.
esp since they dont buff env.
should be even better for us.
strange python
Fish
lone junco
🐟
lone junco
cause you dont have 2p4p
jovial kite
i do
jovial kite
it still sims higher
lone junco
the crit is so high on insig.
strange python
is 2p4p optimal
lone junco
my wrists are trash
jovial kite
for exsang yes
lone junco
no.
strange python
ahh
lone junco
2p4p is very niche
strange python
I play the build without shoulders but not exsang
lone junco
bleed hipsters if you will
lone junco
is that 0panth
jovial kite
yeah
lone junco
ah. I normally sim with more people.
brisk forge
Cheater!
keen inlet
look at this wall-o-red
jovial kite
prepare for the takeover jose
hollow trail
@strange python gotcha. well i know for transmogs, daggers arent an option :/
hollow trail
when i started legion i wanted to make my DH look like a rogue but blizz wouldnt let me
strange python
warglaives don't let you dagger
but that's just cus wep type
and I don't like playing demon hunter
legit just wanted to use it because of the skip for black temple
jovial kite
hmm
44% seems to be breakpoint for crit
switched 2 gems from mastery to crit and 1 ring enchant
@lone junco
strange python
it seems as if rogues have not had a good time with tier transmog
jovial kite
probably due to muti buffs
teal glen
should i inc with vendetta from stealth when using poison build?
lone junco
no
just keep it with your exang imo
exang is like 16 sec. dont vendetta more than 4 sec before.
@jovial kite it is good to see the other specs dont work.
I cant graph crit from raidbots. but if you have simc you can.
dps_plot_points=20
dps_plot_step=1000```raidbots sims are all the info i need
for now
its a falling trend
to add crit after 44%
lone junco
mut buffed was amazing for ep.
strange python
my rogue is gonna look stupid
keen inlet
lone junco
we do have 1 guy that rerolled to cloth to wear point red hat
jovial kite
actually surprised haste rating fall with insignia
no wait
insignia gives haste
nvm
strange python
something to match shard of azzinoth
keen inlet
The original of that was better
keen inlet
I've still got the black helm from zul'jin
strange python
when it gives you the option to sim with how many trinkets are in the raid it's talking about Aman'thul's
jovial kite
yes am aware basically the same thing
strange python
if only
jovial kite
@strange python its basically the same thing ^^
sullen root
Does anyone know what the NB arcane pulse does at 110 with a decent rogue? Wowhead says it scales with attack power
keen inlet
http://www.wowhead.com/item=33479/grimgrin-faceguard#same-model-as
Go for the Timeworn set, it looks better than the green
still matches the shard of azz
strange python
i hate that helm :p
scenic saffron
wait are we going for boots + insignia from now on ?
strange python
i was just gonna transmog without a helm
lone junco
@scenic saffron there are many different builds available. it depends on your gear level
strange python
I like seeing my cute blood elf females
keen inlet
but even w/o the helm I like the colors on the original/timeworn better
keen inlet
hey Noobe
lone junco
ay
keen inlet
what is Bruce Lee's favorite drink?
lone junco
water?
keen inlet
WATAHHHHHHHHH!
strange python
i wish the DH set wasn't dh-only
keen inlet
that's the only hydro joke I know sorry
strange python
like the blues from the starter zone
keen inlet
oh and the h2o/h2o2 joke
spark pond
Guys, a noob question: I'm sub, but changing to Sin...I noticed that while in Sin, my Mastery floats between ~145% to 170%...something like 11k to 13k. Both situations with food/rune/flask and same gear. Whats happening, and Im missing some passive skills or what?
lone junco
@strange python good one
@spark pond 145-170 is fine. just means you have more vers than necessary
rancid bobcat
@spark pond every spec of every class has different mastery rating to % scaling
lone junco
@spark pond rings should be like 2200-2500 mastery
jovial kite
@lone junco insig for st wrist for cleave
jovial kite
nope
spark pond
No, I mean, both situations, I was in Sin Spec, and with the exactly same gear, nothing changed. I'm just curious to know whats causing this float
jovial kite
nice
hollow trail
Marko, something changed in your gear then. maybe wearing a PVP set?
mastery doesnt just change with out reason
maybe a proc from some gear?
spark pond
maybe raid buffs? Because I was in Antorus when I had ~170%...and later, I was in Broken shore with 145%
hollow trail
did you eat mastery food?
spark pond
yeah, both cases
shrewd night
Show me what buffs give 25% mastery pls I want some of that shit
spark pond
@shrewd night I wanna know too, to keep with the higher % always haha
daring forge
why is shadowcraft telling me to use shadow focus over subter/NS as sin?
shrewd night
Tbh I'm leaning towards you being a turd. Not in a bad way mind you, but yo haven t accounted for some gear whether it be rings or neck
spark pond
It's weird, because I really don't know what happened. I DIDNT changed my gear. had ~13500 while in Antorus, and 1h later I had 11500 while in world map
shrewd night
Shadowcraft in 2018 
jovial kite
yeah
lone junco
cant run enough gap like at home.
lone junco
neat. what is that?
shrewd night
That ain't a warglaive
lone junco
green dagger. got it
strange python
very green
lone junco
I have one. Maybe i should do that for a few days. is it cool
lone junco
@jovial kite ill just enjoy that the mastery parallels vers so closely, that no need hunt crit/v gear if it happens it happens.
shrewd night
Brb soon home to check what I got from cache
lone junco
robot is good at EP
shrewd night
Gimme another pearl tbh
lone junco
jovial kite
its doable
strange python
No 100% uptime
quaint sequoia
wait what are ppl going bleed again or what?
shrewd night
Only once a month
strange python
🤔
crystal fox
hehehehe
lone junco
the recent buffs to mut benefit EP.
so we can do this or that. or the other.
good for sin as a whole imo.
dire spoke
@strange python 
🥄
gilded knoll
need to be 18 apart right?
zealous dew
no clue
lone junco
yes
zealous dew
just equipping insignia makes me want to puke
gilded knoll
sadhorn
zealous dew
you can lfr
jovial kite
i mean
zealous dew
😄
jovial kite
wrist would still prob be better than insig even if it hits 2t
lone junco
ok. 1t sims are fine for insig
jovial kite
2t execute 100% ep dmg is insane
lone junco
yes. ofc
jovial kite
if you can keep 95 on st you can easily keep 100 on 2
lone junco
ive been thinking about bota. would 75% bota uptime exceed the benefits from the envs?
lets say bracer only
clipping botas and env between
and env during vendetta exang cause you dont want to fuck it up.
prob bad math.
but since we still get bombs out of it, it probably isnt that far off
lone junco
how long do the things live?
lone junco
i weave fok env and fok ruptures for stuff that lasts more than 20-30sec.
fok env fok env for tiny trash
you are hunting for poison bombs
4cp+ env.
lone junco
solo?
yeah. sin is not a fast class. dots tick.
shoulder prydaz is fine for that stuff
hollow trail
whats up with this bleed hype today
or did you guys just get some new relics to support it
lone junco
nah.
the rotation is great. the mut buffs made it competitive. and less reliant on pbomb
strange python
having trouble soloing stuff :'c
lone junco
then do 1 -3 at a time
hollow trail
3x MAss is required for bleed, yeah?
hollow trail
gotcha. well np cause im finally done with Sin legendaries
lone junco
it's fun for 5man as well.
inner socket
Got a new relic finally last night. 3 ma and 2 malch now
inner socket
The 910 with both sims better than the 960 i got from chest without
lone junco
relics are funny that way
strange python
I think I'm gonna just not care about top dps as rogue and play what's fun
hollow trail
if you ain't first you're last
lone junco
remember what sin does.
strange python
Sin is slow
lone junco
they vendetta a Single target and fuck it over fight duration
strange python
I'm not good at slow anymore
lone junco
Sub is self buff and massive aoe
strange python
I'm used to approx 1-2% downtime at max x.x
strange python
Fast fast ❤
lone junco
for outlaw
strange python
I have no oranges at all
lone junco
ok. then outlaw is good. the bones buffs give you 25% crit or haste or w/e
strange python
Bones is what gets me but hopefully I don't care too much
lone junco
and hook is fun
bones are fine once you have concordance
and they dont matter in wq stuff
strange python
So like they're fine after 5 mins of playing
lone junco
takes llike 2 tokens to have conc.
ye
cheap shot dps BTE is enough time to stun them and stab
lean hill
Send him to outlaw noobe lol
lone junco
sure
hollow trail
can someone explain what x13 weapon ilvl means here? whats the base ilvl they are referencing against?
lean hill
Best bones description
strange python
+13 ilvl
lean hill
Gives you 25% crit or haste or whatever lol
strange python
The wep scales with ilvl
lone junco
ive always wondered if that +level is relic levl or weapon level
strange python
It's weapon ilvl
torn token
its wpn lvl
lone junco
cause it takes a ton of relics to make weapon level
strange python
It's for stats
hollow trail
right but its not very clear. for example i have a 970 relic. so what does that equate to? 25x weapon level?
remote oak
Too bad our weapons scale extremely poorly
strange python
No
Use it as comparison
Say you have a relic that's +2 over another
Just go 2 further on the chart
lone junco
@hollow trail i just do relic compare if the 1st and 3rd row are decent
lone junco
@strange python no you didnt.
strange python
Stop panging me 😡
lone junco
:1:
strange python
It helps you compare when a trait is worth more than ilvl increase
lone junco
hollow trail
i appreciate the attempts to explain but i just dont get the chart when comparing ilvl i guess.
lone junco
we have raidbots for that
hollow trail
ill stick to raidbot compare sims
lone junco
yeah. chart is odd there.
hollow trail
nah its nbd
strange python
Relic upgrade is +2 ilvl and a different trait
hollow trail
raidbots does the work for me
lone junco
^
strange python
You look for x2 ilvl
lone junco
the crucible strings are nice.
strange python
And you look for the trait
And you compare
Further to the right = more dps ofc
So if your 2 ilvl bar is longer than the trait it's a larger increase in dps
(when I say the trait, I mean the trait of the one you'd be replacing)
I'll probably just make a video when I get home maybe
lone junco
if you get MA and either DP or Mut and one of the dps 2nd row
ilvl is way down the list
hollow trail
if you want to. im just gonna rely on raidbots to be smarter than i am though.
strange python
I just like learning and teaching
If I can help anyone with anything it's worth it
hollow trail
well if you make a video dm me. I would like to understand it better but im not worried too much about it. the nerds that run raidbots have got it figured out so its kinda whatever
hollow trail
lol
strange python
I might get outlaw artifact first tho
lone junco
o. you dont have the weps.
hollow trail
I wish i had that FOK_wheelchair emote right about now for you @lone junco
lone junco
yeah. need to do that
strange python
I only have the weps for ass
lone junco
@hollow trail pk was a thing for 1week before i did it.
strange python
I see why we call it sin now
lone junco
yes
strange python
But I like ass more
strange python
Can you guys link me that trait chart btw
jovial kite
is that you dont need to force 30% vanish
lone junco
herodamage dot com
hollow trail
strange python
Tyvm
lone junco
@jovial kite oncd. i guess. i really like that part.
jovial kite
yep
and if ur team spergs and dies and kill goes on for longer you wont lose a vanish
lone junco
so you might get one at 38 and 6
jovial kite
exactly
lone junco
I look at ttd and 2:20 is dangerous
decieving. that execute can fly
or a well timed boss mechanic can save the day
rotund pier
Noobe, how many hours a day on average would you say you spend in Rogue discord? (not trolling, just curious, everytime I check you're all over here lol)
rotund pier
stay at home dad?
lone junco
nah. 2nd monitor at work. and a phone.
rotund pier
baller
lone junco
rotund pier
Discord addiction>wow addictions 😛
strange python
i'm addicted to shit rng
strange python
how do I even get outlaw weps
lone junco
did you find the order hall?
lean hill
My buddy got 980 eoc yesterday
strange python
yes
unreal coyote
i hate your buddy
lean hill
Me too
strange python
i'm on this quest
unreal coyote
ive been running non fucking stop
lean hill
His was the weekly chest
unreal coyote
havemnt even seen one
hexed rock
Got a 960 eoc on my monk today and had shit on my rogue :feels:
lean hill
I just need a mythic hounds trinket and I'll be good
unreal coyote
i have that
lean hill
Well I'd like amanthuls too
unreal coyote
would rather have eoc
lone junco
argus + eoc/fang are both good
inner socket
I might make a monk. If blizzard ever gives me my preorder i purchased
lean hill
Fang procs a ton. And is fine for multi target too, makes life easier
lean hill
I have 3 monk tokens and 5 hunter
.. so
strange python
actually
inner socket
I have a druid. Kinda boring to me
strange python
who do you talk to at all to get the artifact weps
lone junco
wowhead i guess
strange python
it's someone that shows up in dal
lean hill
Watch out for the darker quest icons
strange python
but since I'eve boosted I don't have that
lean hill
Oh boosted, dunno I've only had the 100 boosts so far
lone junco
maybe back to org to get the quest to go to dalaran
strange python
maybe I just gotta complete this chain
lone junco
prob
strange python
you don't get that either
strange python
quick talon
boosted animal
strange python
shouldn't have added those 4 backpack slots
jovial kite
you gotta do the quest
normal plover
lets make a boosted rogue channel
jovial kite
if u want to racechange
quick talon
nerd
normal plover
undead ftw
lean hill
I wish nightborne looked cooler
lone junco
i am undead. just not worth the $ to change
quick talon
I thought youre playing a dwarf, rayanne?
inner socket
When belfs get more customization ill probably play one. Cant stand the hair they have to choose from
normal plover
@quick talon rude
unreal coyote
nightborne
inner socket
Im an orc. Armor looks better
unreal coyote
are dollar store nelfs
lone junco
just a few kneecaps
wise frigate
@strange python You didn't have any quests down by the weekly chest for it did you? The starter weapon quest is A Worthy Blade.
lean hill
Female though
normal plover
I like to make the worst transmogs that offend my guildmates
wise frigate
They all start down there.
unreal coyote
like for real theyre just b roll night elves
lone junco
we did 3 rogues back in bc
unreal coyote
dunno why everyone is flippin
strange python
@wise frigate when you boost you start with the artifact
it lets you choose any of the 3 specs
and it spawns you with the artifact and 3 relics that boost wep ilvl to 897
lone junco
Pïinkranger
Greenranger
Blureranger
did 3 rogue 3v3 arena
small fiber
i am currently a bit confused on the suage of envonom
lone junco
was pretty funny go gib healers.
wise frigate
Hm. Did you try just talking to Lord Jorach Ravenholdt and see if he would just let you choose one?
lone junco
@small fiber get 4cp or 5cp then you envenom
SIN GUIDE HERE--> http://www.ravenholdt.net/assassination-guide/ <--SIN GUIDE HERE
small fiber
yes i know the guide i mean a bit more in detail. should i use envenom directly with 4+cp or should i delay it and only refresh envenom buff
inner socket
Thinking a rogue. Ive heard they are pretty good
lone junco
@normal plover im going for a flex. at least 2 of tank/dps/heal
I hate ret, so that fucking turd is getting benched
lean hill
I'm funneling 3 toons worth of rep tokens to my rogue in hopes of getting tokens for a better class than hunter. Otherwise... hunter
wise frigate
That quest chain isn't part of it though. That's just the rogue campaign and is technically even after you could've gotten the other two weapons.
lavish mason
when simming with lego bracers will the under 30% not be calculated?
lone junco
it will be
inner socket
I have a 70ish shaman. Enhance is fun. Ill either boost him or a monk
lone junco
ele/resto was really a good flex
lavish mason
dunno guy from my guild told me and i got confused
normal plover
which is obviously my dream
wise frigate
There's your first mistake.
lone junco
if you wanna girl in my guild you gotta bm hunter
wise frigate
Believing anyone in your guild.
inner socket
We have 2 good ele shams. Pretty much carry the ranged
lean hill
Enhance single is beast still
lone junco
I will think about M+ spams and how I can push our guild a little harder next tier
normal plover
I also enjoyed shamans (witch doctors) in diablo and im sure it's exactly the same
I will have a horde of frogs following me around
strange python
I hate searching quests
storm jewel
Does rupture does the same dmg regardless of combo points you apply it with? Just time differential? xd sry for noobo question
normal plover
right?
strange python
misread
lone junco
@storm jewel same damage per tick. different durations
inner socket
Im gonna stick around this discord and 1 day ill be above average
lone junco
it matters at the vanish NS tho.
lone junco
@inner socket that purple parse is coming your way
inner socket
Ive had 95+ for ilvl. 99 and 97 on argus but im 949 ish now.
lone junco
argus is nice for poison. not a lot of competition for that green mob
other good fights are kingo and garothi.
just dont burn your vendetta just before the gun phases
@keen inlet good memes
I mean. w/e a meem is
strange python
dunno if CC bug is fixed
inner socket
When I went to buy it 30min after release i was around 5700 in line. About 20 hours later its still processing
strange python
don't buy with CC
inner socket
Too late
lone junco
ill just wait like 3 months
strange python
well
inner socket
Lol
normal plover
yeah I barely have time to maintain my rogue (can someone mail me some gold?), I dont knowwhy I think I could maintain an alt
other than we're on the third phase of aggramar so I guess the tier is somewhat almost over
meaning, I dont need to buy the expansion now
lone junco
ill wait for ptr notes maybe.
lean hill
Nobody absolutely needs it now, but that doesn't stop the world from swarming to it lol
lone junco
rogues usually are
normal plover
execute is going to feel good again
crystal fox
i bought it with CC today, no problem at all
shut willow
I've been told "i need to play something that can tank or heal" so i'm guessing my very brief 8 month stint as a rogue main is probably over by the time BFA launches
I'll always be a rogue though
lone junco
yeah. I wanted DH to be that spot.
crystal fox
tell them to go spoon themselves
lone junco
and unless they bake in the 2min meta, it would be gross
1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 1 1 2 1 1 1 2
repeat
crystal fox
dh dps is very boring indeed
shut willow
i'm ok with that
lone junco
I dont like 5min cds
shut willow
maybe i'll do that next expac
lone junco
I do like personal cds.
shut willow
i was a warrior since classic
lone junco
so buff me, not debuff target
ripe bone
i know it was surely ask several times today, sry for that, but are void elv racials better than humans ?
lone junco
meta is good. for self buff. but mechanics during your cd blow. and they often dont align with priority targets
Is why I like exang.
45sec peaks.
always ready for something
shut willow
i am thinking about trying to switch back to that
i have really good relics for poison right now
i need a shadow rupture/mass and then i would have rupt/mass in all 3
lone junco
play with exang boots before you swap any relics. Some people hate it
shut willow
yeah, i was doing ~1.8M with 15 less ilvls and i'm doing around 2M right now
gritty yoke
Guys how to do at least purple logs on mythic high command? we have 3 owls and 2 ele shamans, nibba i cant even get a FoK out. all the sin rogues in the logs have mad PB proccs
shut willow
i've never been able to get my mastery on a good set of gear to even 190%
im at 170 right now
i can make it like 215% but i lose like 400k dps
PB procs carry dps on that fight
and really any that have AOE
we have a rogue who is not very good that just started playing again that got like 30 PB procs during varimathras last night
gritty yoke
its so fucking hard to compete on mythic high command like holy shit
shut willow
he did like 100k dps less than me and he's like 944 equipped and bad
don't
change your meters to ST boss dmg
and ignore AOE
grim jay
people care ways too much for parses 🤔
gritty yoke
but muh warcraftlogs profile
rough palm
its easy, dont care about mythic high command ranks
shut willow
your job is to kill the boss
alpine grotto
lol
gritty yoke
i need muh purple/orange log
shut willow
let the AOE, no ST dmg people do the AOE
your only other option (I can do this depending who is in the raid that week) is to rupture all the adds as they are spawning
it's not going to give you 4M dps
but your dps will probably go up if you keep full dots on boss and rupture all 3 adds when they spawn
plus if they die fast (ours don't on mythic) you get some energy back anyway
so it's win
win
or you wait and pop a lot of mines on purpose if you didn't get enough PB procs and kill your group over and over again until you do
🤔
lone junco
yeah. just change your parsing to boss damage, and make sure you dont suck