😌
#assassination
grim jay
jovial kite
so notter? 🤔
grim jay
Pretty much
shrewd night
More likely to buy a travelling laptop tbh, or a new pad
dire spoke
BKs
quiet ginkgo
mage tower is a joke on assassination lol
quiet ginkgo
i know but this is a fresh 110 with loow gear
grim jay
Every Challenge is a joke except the Tank one which can be annoying on some classes
grim jay
Frost dk was easy af
grim jay
Frost was easier than sub tbh
dire spoke
That's true
pure jackal
🤔
strange python
mage tower is a joke in general omegalul
pure jackal
frost dk is insanely easy with xylem
just 1 shot the frostboyes with frostscythe and afk
strange python
not when it just came out though :p frost dk : wheelchair:
viscid helm
Better have pineapple on it
fallow estuary
So no BFA PreOrder and no Voidelves on NA Servers?
ashen fossil
Wtf auto correct
jovial kite
Putin congratulated our president for winning second term
we had elections on sunday
ashen fossil
We're having elections in a few months. Only one candidate so far, rest chickened out.
Hail democracy
ashen fossil
Horde have better democracy than the real world
The spirits choose the warchief. No bias included.
jovial kite
I didnt 😔
glad ferry
In BFA currently venom rush and Toxic blades are on the same row, which one do you guys think will be better? Also noticed that bleeds are now scaling with mastery aswell!
glad ferry
yeah still interesting to think about tho
I'm thinking if vigor leaning towards toxic blades might be better
I guess it depends on the amount of mastery tho
viscid helm
Exsang is the only option on that row
glad ferry
I hope not, I hate the bleed build lol
Outlaw still looks pretty shit so far
and let's not forget dispatch is comin' back hype
jovial kite
Allegedly
viscid helm
Well see
glad ferry
yeah allegedly comin back
viscid helm
The build is like 3 months old
sleek cargo
hello
viscid helm
Maybe more
sleek cargo
when do you assassins think they will drop new allied races? weeks? months?
glad ferry
after Q&A
glad ferry
if not I flip the Fin' table
sleek cargo
shit ehen is q and a again?
glad ferry
today
sleek cargo
ill try look it up
glad ferry
usually around 3 -4 pm EST
compact socket
Is the pinned guide up-to-date?
restive flume
I just want upright orcs who can upright row
keen inlet
I too am a fan of birds on bread
sleek cargo
4am Perth Western Aus time
glad ferry
Orc rogue
restive flume
Yeah man jacked rogues on anavar
glad ferry
belf master tbh
wish I was alliance cause those racials are a bit too OP
I mena void elve's racials
LUL
restive flume
Shadow damage?
sleek cargo
they look awesome
glad ferry
5% dmg increase
sleek cargo
the racials
winged parrot
Don't get your expectations too high, it's not even on pbe
sleek cargo
yeah 😃
glad ferry
gon' get nerfed
restive flume
I think thats too high
keen inlet
void elf has lock port too
sleek cargo
yeah i want my lock to be a void elfd
keen inlet
they're gonna be beast in pvp
glad ferry
Wish nightborne had good melee racials lol
winged parrot
The new one is pretty neat
glad ferry
so far there's no reason for me to race change once allied races come out
belf is too good in M+
restive flume
Bull rush is going to be good for m+ too
sleek cargo
i wondeer what dark iron dwarves get
ashen fossil
They're talking about how belf torrent is too strong and they wanted to do something about it for m+
vivid bone
warrior / dk
glad ferry
I'm more intrigued by trolls
vivid bone
that's it
glad ferry
yeah ik, it'll prolly get nerfed
about time tbh
ant believe it's been like this since tbc lol
restive flume
I dont want to see green anymore
glad ferry
Dkcharge PogChamp
vivid bone
agree
dire spoke
:eyes:
restive flume
Stds? Lol you meant the zandalari herpes skin?
ashen fossil
I'm an std and this offends me
glad ferry
I mean not just zandalari, it's obvious that normal trolls also have stds. They probably have some wierd sex rituals or somethin
keen inlet
🔨
glad ferry
can I even say that here
arctic venture
!trinkets
chrome tuskBOT
List of trinkets for each spec: http://tc.ravenholdt.net/
lone junco
Does a mut insig cone hit harder than FOK? So like m+ mut?
somber cipher
helo
keen inlet
henlo
lone junco
I haven't gotten anti high or insig. I must be missing something.
keen inlet
@lone junco afaik it depends on a few diff factors, weak explained it at some point but I didn't pay attention because I'm trying to make outlaw work without good trinkets 😄
also end of expac, cba, etc etc etc
solemn vapor
Guys, sorry for the question, but: the legend. wirst makes that much difference in the overall damage?
solemn vapor
Oh
keen inlet
One 
= one 🙏 for PB
solemn vapor
Thank you don jose
pure sparrow
I want a spiked whip as a weapon
glad ferry
you're into some wierd stuff
midnight latch
i want my druid to transform into a cat girl
keen inlet
my man man CERVANTES
midnight latch
we cant have everything
keen inlet
@midnight latch Darkstalkers/Marvel vs Capcom is that way ⤴
shrewd night
Im about to flip some fucking shit dawg
keen inlet
Take a few deep breaths
vivid bone
Yoshimitsu ftw
shrewd night
Ive counted to ten
keen inlet
Trollshimitsu
shrewd night
Taken deep breaths with a bag in front of my face
shrewd night
can someone just knock me the fuck out so I dont have to work at this godforbidden soul-less place
vivid bone
I love it
keen inlet
@shrewd night I can ban you, if that would help
that's kinda like getting knocked out
shrewd night
I dont know man, sounds like the lite-version if anything
vivid bone
What kind of work do you do
jovial kite
Hes a working man
shrewd night
Being everywhere at once when the customers need it, have issues or otherwise needs to vent about failing IT systems
keen inlet
glory hole cinematographer iirc
shrewd night
Often at the same time
vivid bone
lol, fuck that shit
keen inlet
o
midnight latch
@shrewd night feel you bud
winged parrot
Eddie is like the draw 4 cards for uno
vivid bone
I'd go crazy in a couple of minutes
keen inlet
I mean that's similar to my job
shrewd night
'Hi, can you fix this for me' -> Sure thing bud -> Oh wait, I dont have the rights -> Where is the guy with the rights? -> Not here/conference/out of town/vacay -> No can do, broseph -> 'BUT I NEED IT NOW YOU DUMBFUCK'
vivid bone
I'm the guy with the rights in this story
midnight latch
i am the guy with the rights
shrewd night
There is a reason Im getting fat
jovial kite
probably not even top 3 rights
keen inlet
Last week I spent 16 hours completely re-cabling an office network, new hardware (that was an adventure in itself, turns out pc stores clueless about their own inventory), new pcs to image, new network printer etc etc etc
I then, to test the printer, write up and print out pain-stakingly simple instructions (with pics!) on how to scan to pc, which pc is what, the logins/pws, etc.
Best part: the next day the manager forgot her laptop in her bag and ran it over with her car
shrewd night
Stress + comfortfood
jovial kite
@shrewd night
shrewd night
It was a bent piece of mess
keen inlet
meanwhile I'm making do with a homemade pc in-office and a 6 year old dell pos
I, too, am the Holder of Rights
midnight latch
can you gimme rights?
keen inlet
Sure
midnight latch
no
midnight latch
why not?
cause your boss did not approve.
shrewd night
But I need it for my job
keen inlet
"but i don't want that"
shrewd night
TOUGH SHIT
midnight latch
well ask your boss
midnight latch
oknvm
shrewd night
Love government jobs. Takes three weeks to approve rights, due to signatures and papermill. But by the time you have them, you no longer need them 
vivid bone
Man, I'm glad I work for a small company that just makes some cool websites 😉
keen inlet
I did my taxes last night
midnight latch
my favorite answer btw: this is against our policy.
aka the pilite fuck you
desert vault
Hey what kinda of energy should I be at before casting vanish, outside of the opener. Running shoulders, so vanish > envenom spamming
polar grail
you know the answer to this
shrewd night
Lets just say Im |--| this far from shoving a pool que up someones ass. An entire external worksite is relying on me to finish what I need to do by tomorrow, but cant do it cause... You guessed it, the guy with the rights is sipping champagne at some fuckplace.
keen inlet
spoiler alert
that guy
is me
I am the guy
I'm here memeing you
so you can't get your job done
how does that make you feel
vivid bone
now that's toxic
jovial kite
Probably not even top 3 feel
pure sparrow
Damn that sucks bros
jovial kite
Always time for 🍍 s :3
pure sparrow
How long do you guys think t21 will be useful for in Bfa? Over under one day?
keen inlet
over
unless leveling is fast
but
I feel like
with the changes to leveling 1-100
110-120 is gonna be slower than 100-110 was at launch
even if they just arbitrarily scale up the xp
vivid bone
even slower
winged parrot
What about legos?
vivid bone
it's lego
nova pagoda
porb do what the hfc trinkets did
winged parrot
If they don't nerf them some are still gonna be bis at 120
nova pagoda
cant use above 119
shrewd night
the fuck are you guys one about
I didnt start replacing shit until 108 last leveling run
vivid bone
That's perfectly fine.
winged parrot
100 crit chance for 5 sec when you are gonna have like 20% otherwise is quite the definition of bis
But they are prolly get nerfed
:///
winged parrot
As an example ye
vivid bone
Well, they will probably nerf some, or let the effect be scaled by lvl
so it will down scale the moment you outlevel it
Nothing to worry about tbh
cerulean depot
90% sure leggos will get archimonde trinket treatment. Meaning they will stop working @120
vivid bone
Don't worry your pretty little head over it.
fiery merlin
Hope they lift the cap though, for 8.0, oof.
shrewd night
cap?
fiery merlin
you can only equip 2 legendaries, it'd be fun if w/ the stat squish they let you equip all of them.
fiery merlin
Why not?
calm grail
Hey so I still have that autolagetolerance addon installed
shrewd night
Because its retaded
calm grail
IS it even important anymore?
fiery merlin
It'd be fun, don't you remember how retarded SoO was?
20 second siegecrafter blackfuse kills
Nobody is doing serious content in 8.0, and things are going to be a mess anyways with stat squishing, they always are.
might as well let people meme for the 2 or 3 weeks that they have.
winged parrot
Idk what you are getting at
shrewd night
As much as I hate giving the casuals more credit than they deserve, it completely invalidates any progress after a potential squish.
fiery merlin
I thought it was obvious.
There's no progress to be had after a squish. It's part of the reason they take away aotc/cutting edge each tier.
shrewd night
They only take away that when the tier is completely over, meaning the launch of the expansion 🤔
keen inlet
@calm grail Depends. For sin with low apm probably not
for outlaw yeah, very important
winged parrot
Like @shrewd night said, just imagine yourself progressing through antorus and next week hc guilds are same level
keen inlet
¯_(ツ)_/¯
who cares
it's a game
nobody cares who got world top 100 lich king kills
fiery merlin
But you have the same level of power creep as they do?
Stat squish is going to affect progression much more than people having all the legos.
You know that, right?
keen inlet
nobody cares world top 100 archimonde, or Garrosh, or w/e
winged parrot
But nothing to progress
keen inlet
as soon as the tier is over the accomplishments count for <0
winged parrot
Maybe if they add a sub raid of some sort idk
fiery merlin
If a couple dozen guilds kill it last week, that's fine. People will also go in with 19 dps 1 tank and have fun with a raid they haven't had fun with for the last 5-7 months.
shrewd night
There is literally no argument for being able to wear all legendaries until the new expansion is launched, and by then its all irrelevant anyways.
pure sparrow
Lul who even cares about nighthold top 100 rn
fiery merlin
Most fun was watching/participating in HFC kills with 19 soul capicators or using trash to 1 shot a boss.
shrewd night
That you want to meme the last weeks? Well, tough shit haHAA
fiery merlin
Damn did you just unironically
onyx rock
whats up with this "haHAA" ? is it like "lol" ? i see this everywhere
onyx rock
god i am old
strange python
its a cringe face
keen inlet
looks like that.
indigo idol
haHAA is a quote from several cards from hearthstone which might be considered "tilting"
pure sparrow
It’s supposed to be used when someone says something cringey that was meant to be funny
fiery merlin
it was incorrect emote usage.
strange python
antonidas?
fiery merlin
Almost as bad when you monkas
shrewd night
oh noes 
winged parrot
Call the meme police
keen inlet
when they're mis-using emojis
fiery merlin
Yea fuck me for thinking of fun ways to enjoy raid the last week of it :^)
i forgot some people enjoy 9 month tiers by progressing those 9 months 3days a week
pure sparrow
Not like half of us will even be subbed the last 3 months of current expansion
shrewd night
Poor casual guilds that still progress by that time amirite
fiery merlin
Stat squish would alter progression much more than having 7+ legendaries equipped 😃
shrewd night
Better solution; Stat squish and nerfs to boss abilities
zealous dew
best solution: close servers
shrewd night
^
fiery merlin
wouldnt you want nerfs to come between now and 8.0
still waiting for those argus nerfs.
zealous dew
why it's easy mode
fiery merlin
I think chains/immuning them is a dumb mechanic
zealous dew
lfr is harder than mythic
bold dune
is that why you haven't killed it
zealous dew
have you tried lfr argus ?
fiery merlin
and want it fixed, along with p1 bugginess, has nothing to do with easy.
pure sparrow
Nerf everything that moves until the 1 hour a day casual can kill it on their first try
fiery merlin
@bold dune That's where you're wrong kiddo
bold dune
not referring to you, kiddo
shrewd night
Ooooooooooooooooooh
fiery merlin
you activated my trap card.
shrewd night
🔥 kiddo 🔥
warm parcel
Gottem
stone sandal
Anyone here remember when we were joking about rogue getting a spell steal, being able to do the ability of the target we have stolen?
pure sparrow
Fuck that, not everyone should be able to clear mythic
fiery merlin
You're halfway there, i guess...
calm grail
Someone get this man a fedora.
stone sandal
Because, thats actually what DK's get in BfA Omegalul
strange python
Boss shouldnt be dictated by chain rng
fiery merlin
I haven't checked out notes yet, that sounds cool though.
bold dune
the boss isn't dictated by RNG
if you get three chains on any particular set its gonna be a lot more difficult
but if you break properly it should be np
fiery merlin
How do you get less chains? Immunes? Who gets chains? It's random.
strange python
i wouldnt say any
fiery merlin
🤔
jovial kite
For us 3 chain on 2nd and 4th was insta wipe
viscid helm
this is why you 5-6 heal the fight 🤷
jovial kite
Three healed
fiery merlin
Like you clearly don't know what you're talking about nastynelbur, it's okay.
strange python
be nice
bold dune
because I don't think argus kills are truly predicated on getting a certain number of chains? ok
shrewd night
🍿
fiery merlin
I'm sorry, I think you're grossly underestimating how rough 3 chains are on a 4th set to heal as healers versus getting 0-1.
jovial kite
I think they are depending on strat
bold dune
if you get three chains on that set in particular it's likely going to be a wipe, especially during progression, I never said otherwise
jovial kite
Our enrage timer was 5th module
bold dune
but it's also not hard to stack immunities and make it so that it's quite unlikely to get three chains on that set
and if you pull consistently and get to that part, you'll invariably get a pull where you get average or better RNG on the chains
hence why it's silly to assume that progression on that boss is dependent on good RNG
bold dune
also we're stacking all of our healer CDs on that set so that if we do get three chains people ought to be able to live
bold dune
unless they run into balls or get rage stacks or are generally stupid
strange python
sounds like a reason why it is dependent on rng
fiery merlin
Pretty sure we killed it 3rd pull into the night when we got 1 chain on 4th.
shrewd night
sounds like a reason why it is dependent on rng
Was about to say. It looked to me as if you just countered yourself within the same post, Nasty
shrewd night
Its not reliant on rng, but if you get good rng, you get the kill
strange python
sure, you cant throw any guild at argus and expect them to kill it even with perfect rng
shrewd night
🤔
bold dune
I guess it depends on your perspective? My point was that getting to that point consistently negates one's dependence on getting good rng
fiery merlin
Getting past that point however is dependent largly on RNG.
You can be progression-locked, wiping at the 10min mark solely due to bad RNG.
that's just factual.
bold dune
it's just so unlikely that you can get there several times and actually get fucked by RNG literally everytime
jovial kite
Friends guild got 4 immunity, they are at 42% chance to get 3
fiery merlin
Now if guilds start 5 healing and damage checks don't matter + ilvl imporvements happens than sure, rng means less because 3 chains are healable.
fiery merlin
you'd be surprised lol, I could pull logs.
bold dune
I think three chains on that set are healable now if you plan to stack healer CDs, although if you three heal and two of your healers get picked for chains or something like that it's gonna be bad
fiery merlin
I'd just be happy with 2 chains, goes through immunities guaranteed.
bold dune
I just don't find that likely
fiery merlin
I hope Argus progression is kinder to you than the rest of us 😃
bold dune
comes down to breaking properly imo
jovial kite
Someone needs to get ghost balls too
bold dune
it hasn't been
strange python
I wonder what sin rogue bug we will discover today
bold dune
We're at like 375 pulls, but I don't attribute our lack of a kill to poor RNG, even if we have been fucked on some pulls
keen inlet
hence why it's silly to assume that progression on that boss is dependent on good RNG```
You kinda disproved yourself thereif we were more consistent we would have killed it
fiery merlin
something to the nature of poison knife dealing 12x damage when thrown from the air.
zealous dew
dfa PK
bold dune
as I said, you really don't need "good" RNG on that part @keen inlet
just not awful, which isn't hard to get by getting there consistently
keen inlet
...but if it's basically 3 chains > onward, 4 chains wipe
(more or less)
then yeah, you kinda do
😄
lone junco
@warm parcel not anti theory. I just assume it is high crit medium mastery. Like 45 180
bold dune
it's not easy but it's doable
fiery merlin
Nasty doesn't believe getting less than 3 chains is "good RNG". it's just a bad translation.
lone junco
And is mut inig better than FOK I. Cleave.
jovial kite
🤔
bold dune
pretty sure most of our immunities are on CD from third set, since I'm immuning there plus hunters
fiery merlin
might wanna move some hunters to 4th from 3rd.
vivid bone
2 chainz
bold dune
we do have three mages on the fourth set
jovial kite
you dont sac third?
fiery merlin
Some groups sac 2nd
bold dune
Nah we sac second
jovial kite
Ahh i seee
fiery merlin
You die with rages, spawn after sytches
bold dune
Idk what the rationale is for having that many immunities on the third set compared to the fourth, could talk to my RL but it's doubtful we're changing much
again I think we just don't get there often enough with brezzes and shit
fiery merlin
Probably because you have them back up for 5th.
warm parcel
Mastery is still by far the strongest stat @lone junco
Crit sure is bit more valuable this way
fiery merlin
We've had people get chains than die because raid is low, or from stacks.
ideally you just let all 3 go off and keep them topped + tanks and ignore the rest
but sometime it doesn't go that way
jovial kite
we just left 5th and nuked boss
fiery merlin
you don't actually break them
oh gosh, i miss warcraftlog achievements. Or whatever the hardmode was they had around SoO.
bold dune
considering that you're ideally not going to break them prior to the boss dying, I'd think that having immunities for the fifth set isn't as important
bold dune
I think it's contingent on your raid comp
fiery merlin
We have our disc talk about how bad it is to sac 3rd as a disc priest
especially if you're 3 healing.
shrewd night
oh gosh, i miss warcraftlog achievements. Or whatever the hardmode was they had around SoO.
We captured all of the W1 ones because we felt nobody did them
They were fun, but I dont think they were that popular
fiery merlin
It's a shame, hope to see them make a return.
bold dune
sacing third set is arguably harder to execute since you have to deal with gaze plus scythes during the second chains
shrewd night
Rip vanguard, best guild
fiery merlin
would be more involved if blizzard embraced them
bold dune
I've also never tried that though
jovial kite
you got immu for the chains though
bold dune
you should for the third set as well
jovial kite
fear stack behind boss rage take the 2-3 from fear stack
bold dune
if you choose to do that
bold dune
Makes sense to me, first set is pretty easily healable
But I think that my RL was initially worried about our ability to execute the second set properly
which is probably why we're sacing that set
jovial kite
i dont really see point in distributing immunities
max immu = better chances for good rng
bold dune
yeah I mostly echo your sentiment considering that we've hit the wall at the fourth set
10% been our best attempt so far
jovial kite
and sacing third minimizes the chance for 3 chains if everyone immunes 2nd and 4th
bold dune
But still, we had a pull last night where we had one chain on both set three and four, still a wipe
which I guess is really where my feeling is that the fight is dependent on execution compared to RNG comes from
jovial kite
bold dune
and yeah I agree with what you're saying about sacing third set
jovial kite
did gods work here
more orb soaks than our 3rd tank
also rate my execute
https://gyazo.com/1b697740230cb888dd71828db944b387
out of 
ashen fossil
Dem poison bombs
jovial kite
also our monk tank was the only oen alive for the last 20 seconds
doing 1m dps, taking 2.5m dps per second and healing 3.5 for 20 sec
was pretty Kappa kill
signal summit
Wow
calm grail
Did he use 
signal summit
That must be such insane feeling Tbh
bold dune
was he recording, tell him to put it on r/WoW
jovial kite
he was
fiery merlin
Oh im god im so glad we didn't have any bullshit low wipes this tier.
jovial kite
but hes yelling profanities at the end
fiery merlin
Those are literally the worst feelings
fiery merlin
last man standing STV arena should get mount imo.
calm grail
OH you were jitterman
fiery merlin
aka tank
signal summit
I actually did something quite similar when We got realms first obsidan sanctum , played pally and was the only one alive and killed the remaining 0.4% with bubbel and some insane luck
bold dune
yeah I was having a seizure and hyperventilating and shit
signal summit
Prob best feeling so far in wow for me
calm grail
You see dat evasion CDR in BFA?
bold dune
yeah gonna tank full time for my guild now
calm grail
I mean I'm okay with the feint changes. You have to think about when you use it, oh well.
But yeah, you can MT now.
fiery merlin
whats the feint change? CD?
calm grail
15 second CF, 40% reduction (this is all Alpha but w/e_
fiery merlin
same effect? That's gonna help a lot of rogues
bold dune
^ I'm a fan
nova pagoda
^
bold dune
also take it off the GCD
nova pagoda
^^^^^^^^^
fiery merlin
CV costs energy 😮
fiery merlin
i never noticed till now
jovial kite
we had 3 rogues btw
nova pagoda
Hell dont make it free just take it off gcd
jovial kite
one didnt feint even once on our kill pull
bold dune
I do use feint a fair bit in the last phase
calm grail
I try to vial a little before I know I'm about to get my ass beat.
bold dune
until then nope
calm grail
Get that 24% reduction
bold dune
CV is amazing to use with chains breaking
jovial kite
nobody took orbs in our last raid except tank assigned so i saw it as my duty to do it
calm grail
Sometimes I wish Cheat Death wasn't a thing.
Would like Elusiveness or LP to pull ahead.
Depending on fight.
It's just so boring.
bold dune
LP is arguably better on Argus since you lose it after you sac in the last phase
shrewd night
Leechin poison would be so hard to balance correctly
calm grail
O.o
bold dune
Although I don't think it heals enough to warrant taking it over having an extra safety net
lose cheat death*
lone junco
Cd is the reason I play rogue.
shrewd night
Its never going to hit the spot where its just 👌 , its either going to be too good or worse than the other options
lone junco
And cloak.
lone junco
Meh. I need a crutch.
jovial kite
i only ever used elu on ticho progress and m+
pure sparrow
Cheat death gives me a boner every time it procs
shrewd night
Bruh
lone junco
There is massive text.
shrewd night
Maybe thats why he didnt use Rots on KJ kill 
dense blaze
How do I enable loot on my account
strange python
What dungeons drops the best shadow relic for assa?
fiery merlin
vault and cath(i believE)
strange python
aight thx
hot swift
fiery merlin
nothing good from 5/5 caches, just wowprogress ilvl fodder.
hot swift
i got that
fiery merlin
wish i could be as lucky
hot swift
but on the ptr LMAO
fiery merlin
ooof
fiery merlin
If I could do higher keys to guarantee jewelry or relics, that'd be swell.
desert vault
I got 46g from my cache
fiery merlin
like pop a reroll token in the box before 10am to choose which piece i want like a vendor 😦
desert vault
aka haste/crit boots
dense blaze
Giant Ornamental Peral 4Head
zealous dew
someone said stuff
hot swift
quick talon
hello im balancing my mistweaver but now im chalanging whit haste speed people say hast is worst stat but to less you feal that you walking behind the facts and on 17% im fine but 10% im a turtel al tho my 10% build get 24 verz 25 crit and mastery is olmost extinkt
but on the 17 % i loeze like crit or verz im ust to play whit sholders legendarry and doorway that gives me the most out of it and can shot down in raid and still heal to get mana back basicly can go whit 1% for eternety on 1300k hps i try to sqweeze the last good % out but if i drop balance point i feel it
zealous dew
clearly turtel is the keyword here
hot swift
i want my 970 MA relic back
hot swift
i got it on the ptr
hot swift
it took me like 8 attempts on the PTR
copying my character and deleting it
to get an upgrade from the chest
so statistically speaking, i wont be getting an upgrade from the mythic chest for another 8 weeks
bitter fractal
did something change? seems to lost dps while simming
quick talon
accurate data
shrewd night
I've gained 75k
shrewd night
Sims are important ok
lone junco
@hot swift 👌
keen inlet
ned 4 sped
fiery merlin
My ex-gf had a bleed trait, if you know what i mean. Needless to say i got rid of her, so should you with that relic.
I hope your Live luck is better next week my dude
hot swift
i have 5 bleed traits
fiery merlin
i had really good relics, but i messed it all up in favor of FoK relics back in late december.
keen inlet
I don't know what you mean by bleed trait. Please, enlighten me 😄
quick talon
@keen inlet new Q&A soon ?
keen inlet
3pm EST I believe
keen inlet
my body is ready
bitter fractal
did they revert back the 3% deadly poison from the pk trait ?
fiery merlin
Yea 4 1/2 hours Win
spice surge
Yes, as PK now works as it should @bitter fractal
bitter fractal
so perhaps with i lost about 50k ST while simming
spice surge
That was never in simc
bitter fractal
*that's why
spice surge
So no
quick talon
check #tc-updates maybe
bitter fractal
really ? hmm weird then
quick talon
they fixed a few things
" You may notice a slight loss of DPS in the latest Raidbots nightly for Assassination. This is likely due to a bugfix i made to Sinister Circulation which was triggering the cooldown reduction for KB a bit too often."
compact socket
How good is Poison Knives relic for m+?
compact socket
It's that or Gushing
lone junco
you can sim hecticaddcleave 1min to get a feel for the M+ equivalent
compact socket
ok
lone junco
parked next to this guy at the daycare this morning.
not sure where batman puts the car seat tho
woven dragon
That parking job 👌
lone junco
yeah. no ding defense
quick talon
This area looks pretty sad
lone junco
thanks. that is a housing project in the back.
for code nerds. pretty rich area tbh. just shitty feb weather.
lone junco
yeah. Some of the companies here have on campus apartments for employees.
keen inlet
kinda feels like modern day tenant farming
lone junco
so like. new grad coder work 60-70hrs a week. make 80-120k and live on campus
lone junco
I should have been a nerd tbh. I guess i picked poorly
keen inlet
mfw corporations are basically moving us back to the dark ages
instead of a king they have a ceo
strange python
Captain
keen inlet
the code monkeys live on-campus and work and much of their labor goes directly back to king
lone junco
meh. facebook provides chefs and 5 meals a day for free. and you get paid 350k + fat shares.
mental barn
When looking at logs should I care more about where I parse for my ilvl bracket or just in general?
strange python
Sim it
quick talon
What are you working as, noobe?
keen inlet
I'm not saying I'd turn it down if the opportunity came to Maine
lone junco
@mental barn ilvl is good to see what other people in your position can do.
keen inlet
heh
keen inlet
I'm just...really skeptical of the direction the global corporatocracy is moving
strange python
What’s civil eng? What you do
quick talon
probably building bridges?
ancient sonnet
You Bois think it's worth using vial of ceaseless toxins on kin garoth?
lone junco
Water
@mental barn compare sample.
Civil is bridges, buildings, storm water, drinking water, shit water, soils, walls, foundations for stuff, roads, parking lots.
urban storm
Anyone online? Saw a reddit post saying affixes are teeming volcanic tyrannical rather than necrotic as second affix
lone junco
does that make a difference?
orchid cove
my key was volc
lone junco
volcanic vs necrotic?
orchid cove
makes it a lot easier lol
lone junco
i never care about the affix but tyrannical and teeming fortified.
or w/e
100k diff. 👌
urban storm
You waste a lot of time if a mob gets stuck in necrotic
carmine flare
nice Shadowalker 970 blood relic
gilded lark
within 10s of fight duration btw
urban storm
Well ya you get to frontloas the exsang dmg when the adds spawn and have the max dmg taken debuff
strange python
Can you ree for me?
gilded lark
skew them results a bit more noobe lol
lone junco
went to 28 day. still top, but tighter gap.
2 raid size is fine.
ratios matter.
is the whole point of compare. what would somone else in this condition do
0 of them would exang i guess.
ancient sonnet
Not played Exsang since tos, is it even that good in reality?
lone junco
filter aside. 83 is fine.
@ancient sonnet in reality? i dont know what that means.
Like does it do damage? yes
ancient sonnet
Ok better, at 967 ilvl is it ever gonna outperform poisonboi?
I feel like it could be absolutely nuts for kin garoth tbf
And since that's the b0ss I'm progressing rn I am somewhat interested
lone junco
dunno. i just pushed to 956 this week. keep an eye out for slackjack parses next week.
he wrapped M-argus. and will start up exang again
zealous dew
GL
lone junco
I still havent bought an essence item
hot swift
just got 25 essences from emmissary..... couldnt it just have been 27 or higher?
ancient sonnet
I've not bothered farming essence on my rogue despite still not having shoulders, I'm very happy with bracers boots
ancient sonnet
Rather put my time into farming for bis leggos on muh dk
orchid cove
bracers and boots diff is pretty minimal tbh
lone junco
lies
ancient sonnet
I love the boots so much now I have em, get like 40% vendetti uptime
lone junco
vendetti is nice.
nova pagoda
helm sims higher then boots for me lol
ancient sonnet
Is a gud cd
lone junco
dance symbol is better, but it is what it is.
hot swift
i cant actually replace my insignia until i get a crit mast ring that isnt 930
lone junco
maybe that is my prob with insig. my rings are pretty good.
ancient sonnet
I think Exsang might work for me due to the high uptime I have on vendetti now tbf, might try it out on kin garoth
lone junco
and my bracer set is shit.
lone junco
@ancient sonnet
must have 3vendet bracer boot.
ancient sonnet
Got 3ma bracers and boots
lone junco
aside from that fat crit
ancient sonnet
Can do that too tbf
orchid cove
should boots sims higher for me monkas
lone junco
I run 40+fang. would like 45+ eoc
ancient sonnet
I have 7ma 6malch 1 strangler
Got 960 fang 980 golg
I'm set if I wanna try it out
lone junco
@orchid cove boots vs bracer difference shines with adds. any extra targets gimme that bracer. any raid deaths Ill take bracer.
@ancient sonnet the malch isnt that low for exang so it is nice. if you get to 3vendet 1bb 1malch that would be nice.
ancient sonnet
Ya the 7ma is hype tho
lone junco
you wont get the same fat pbomb vanishes from shoulder MP
so you wont peak 8M. but you will get 5m guaranteed on each add.
ancient sonnet
Don't have shoulders and boots bracers are bis for bleed aren't they?
lone junco
yeah bracer boot. is for exang.
ancient sonnet
I honestly probs have a better gear setup for bleed than I do for poison sadly
ancient sonnet
I can deffo sac some mastery on jewellery for crit and get to like 45% ez
ancient sonnet
Can swap out my 960 doggos neck for 975 portal keeper neck
ancient sonnet
I've got 960 fang which I think is p good replacement for an eoc
Not quite as good but it'll do
945 eoc on dk too
ashen fossil
Is it actually worth to keep my 945 EOC on high command? or would a 960 fang be better
ancient sonnet
I get rupture ticks like that with 10% Vers np
lone junco
@ashen fossil sim but prob eoc for ST.
fast nacelle
i wish some day i will be as godlike as @lone junco
lone junco
my 925 EoC == 945 Fang
hot swift
id go 960 fang any day
fast nacelle
make me a baby daddy
lone junco
@fast nacelle maybe. i can show you the bota fish. and we can bleed together.
ashen fossil
I did, and sims were like 10k difference with EOC higher
hot swift
my 970 fang = 960 eoc for me
fast nacelle
lmao
ancient sonnet
So by that standard 940 eoc = 960 fang
lone junco
sim
fast nacelle
we can bleed together sounds so wrong on so many levels
ancient sonnet
O nvm then
hot swift
also gotta take into account that u wont always have 10 stacks ready
lone junco
My 985 argus is better than both. else i would use EoC and fang
ancient sonnet
Golg is p strong tho
ancient sonnet
Its actually disgusting how much damage it deals for my snd spec
lone junco
low cp swipe for bota. then vendetta wreck
ancient sonnet
Ya for all specs afaik golg is better than Aman thul
lone junco
oh wait this was 1st add with vendetta in the middle.
@ancient sonnet if you vendet kingo on open, you will have 2nd vendet at about 10 sec into 1st add.
then back up for boss and for 3rd add.
1 for each.
urban storm
That’s with 3 relic + boots I imagine?
lone junco
but with bracer on 1st add, you will burst through the bracer
ancient sonnet
Ya I do it as poisonboi
But my add melts as 2 ww monks
So idgaf
2 ww one add and 2 DH on other lul
hot swift
ok finally i got the bracers
tacit ferry
exotic glen
many lucks
edgy escarp
should rupture always be 5cp's?
lone junco
@ancient sonnet
lone junco
try to get on a non dh one then.
ancient sonnet
might just run vigor cause ezpz
lone junco
dont do that.
lone junco
what is your crit?
ancient sonnet
41.85%, 12.78% vers
i can pop it up a little bit
with chants and gems
what neck enchant do you use?
glacial cloud
What are the best assassination stats?
lone junco
necks were minor. I use satyr, but recheck each time I get a new neck.
glacial cloud
Chill mate, was confused on whether it was mastery then vers then crit or mastery then crit then vers
lone junco
chill mate?
I am chill
if you dont want to sim yourself just read a guide. If you dont want to do that. just stack mastery.
SIN GUIDE HERE--> http://www.ravenholdt.net/assassination-guide/ <--SIN GUIDE HERE
normal plover
chill out
golden ravine
Cheap shot spec ftw
split loom
chrome tuskBOT
List of trinkets for each spec: http://tc.ravenholdt.net/
cosmic nacelle
Fuck my sin gear is so jank right now 40% crit :s
lone junco
not bad imo
there is a crit point to switch to EP from MP
depends on trinkets as well. but w/e
cosmic nacelle
I aimed anti and it Sims the exact same as vigor + or - 500
Simmed not aimed
Ill try ep
I don't like having so much crit. Really fucks my mastery up. :(
lone junco
anti is fine. it bumps your 2p uptime and env uptime.
crit is cps. It is not a bad thing.
but w/e
I clearly dont care what other people do 
cosmic nacelle
Yeah I now have 56% on mut to crit if I had a balanced blade relic i would prob play anti because it does the same thing is vigour but with combo points
gilded lark
weak had 100% 2p uptime (on dummy)
with anti
but that's also patchwerk so
¯_(ツ)_/¯
pure sparrow
Where does everyone have their rings an shit from? M+?
lone junco
yes
lone junco
nibbler thumb ring
warm parcel
this resets pov of clear bois 👀
grim jay
obviously people have their rings from raids/m+ like everything else
cosmic nacelle
Their are decent rings from the raid but really good ones in m+
lone junco
there is a nice crit mastery from raid.
ancient sonnet
kin garoth and argus rings are vv tasty
pure sparrow
It’s really not that weird. Maybe best ring is from Antorus, or maybe from T20
gilded lark
just look for crit/mast rings
run those dungeons/content
¯_(ツ)_/¯
then get some haste/vers 985 titanforge because blizz hates us all
lone junco
i dont have my crit equipped, but I have a val' something and the thumb ring
inner socket
Like my 985 chest with 1500 haste on it i cant use
lone junco
then that is over haste cap already
gilded lark
snd wants like 20% or something iirc
lone junco
much less
supple hearth
Imagine capping haste as sin in 2018
lone junco
but outlaw is irrelevant
hot swift
im forced to use tier gloves
lone junco
I didnt even get 75. I just stopped.
supple hearth
Broadsides in 2019 at this rate 😂
lone junco
can one of you guys carry me in a ToS M pug?
gilded lark
i will have ascended from this place
lone junco
i need better shoulders
lone junco
I loved outlaw. It didnt love me.
supple hearth
Same
cinder condor
Is dreadlords deciet good for AoE or ST?
lone junco
not really. it is amazing for sub aoe
shoulder bracer covers most M+ needs for poison sin.
zealous dew
you want boots for fortified bosses
torn token
Fortified bosses? 🤔
cinder condor
Oh ok ty
gilded lark
🤔
lone junco
then why would boot be better?
zealous dew
another vedetta
gilded lark
lol
hot swift
what about ravenholdt insignia?
gilded lark
inb4 noobe deletes msg
lone junco
i dunno. 99% of mobs have 30-0. cant see losing bracers except for the non execute mobs.
hot swift
considering 30% is a small window for something like the bracers to be very useful on a boss
gilded lark
i think he means because
lone junco
I know nothing of M+25 so w/e
gilded lark
the last 30% is so short
hot swift
i dont do +25s lol
hot swift
probably
hot swift
speaking of which i got a court of stars key