assassination

[gilded lark]

well

don't give shit info

and you won't have anything to worry about

[lone junco]

noted

[gilded lark]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[lone junco]

or append #feelycraft

and then people can 💩 you

and 🥄

[bright mantle]

the..''new opener'' seems shitty the standard one feels better

[lone junco]

ok

[balmy condor]

What “new opener”

[gilded lark]

seems feels

them words

[lone junco]

vendetta/Garrote

instead of the garrote mut rupture vend tbkb

[gilded lark]

run a sim, check apl

it vends on pull

supposedly a dps gain

massive energy waste and slows opener imo

[balmy condor]

Hasn’t it been doing that for months though

[gilded lark]

i don't like it

[balmy condor]

The apl’s been doing it for a while for me

[gilded lark]

yeah but people finally realized that it's been doing that

lol

[tranquil birch]

Only because koji posted the opener to clear up the kingsbane shit

[plain thistle]

lol no, i knew that when they changed, doesnt mean i need to do that

[tranquil birch]

and people were like 🤔

[bright mantle]

the standard one seems to do more dps i dunno about this dps gain in vend/garrote

[balmy condor]

I vaguely remember there being something about it being a dps gain if you can mutilate instantly after and waste near no energy

But it not working in practice

[lone junco]

Bro. that was NSDP

[balmy condor]

Or use energy or whatever

[lone junco]

voodoo

vanish Mut was a nsdp trigger.

maybe they knew. maybe they didnt. but those logs were pretty great

[bright mantle]

so what..''opener'' should all sin rogues be using? standard or this new one

[gilded lark]

vanish mut was never the real nsdp trigger

people used pk

[balmy condor]

!singuide

[chrome tusk]

Assassination guide: http://www.ravenholdt.net/assassination-guide/

[balmy condor]

?

[gilded lark]

there's that :badinfo:

again

[lone junco]

way before that. there were logs for months with stealth mut

[gilded lark]

true

[lone junco]

and it was NSDP.

[gilded lark]

but it also wasn't 100% chance

[lone junco]

or 50/50

which is why it was neat to see.

+/- 100k easy

[somber cipher]

ads

[bright mantle]

should we be using vend/garrote opener or the standard one

[lone junco]

up to you.

[tranquil birch]

ahhh this is how orignial chinese god rogue figured it out

[balmy condor]

If it’s not giving you a gain, don’t use it

[tranquil birch]

noticed it with mut, and was like, well I could do this 100% of the time with pk huh?

[lone junco]

some guy in here was like "fuck you guys, I dont need your help I do fine" turns out his high logs were orange with stealth mut. is others were blue with dud stealth mut. So nice to have a bug in your pocket.

[somber cipher]

When should i reapply rupture

[lone junco]

before it runs out

[somber cipher]

like when

[lone junco]

@somber cipher SIN GUIDE HERE--> http://www.ravenholdt.net/assassination-guide/ <--SIN GUIDE HERE

[balmy condor]

Within pandemic timer unless it’s buffed

[somber cipher]

for the best uptime

[bright mantle]

@lone junco which opener do you use?

[lone junco]

im exang. dont worry about me.

[bright mantle]

oh..lol

[frail jungle]

exsang

[lone junco]

i have a vendetta open button.

[balmy condor]

He’s a weird one

[lone junco]

one day it is garrote other day it is kb next week it will be tb

[balmy condor]

Tb on pull :reeeeee:

[shrewd oriole]

http://prntscr.com/i7f79c

what

the

feck

what a meme, r1 eonar is using Kj

LUL

[civic palm]

Was late DEC. who knows.

[tranquil birch]

I mean the only way you really parse on Eonar is pb anyway

And it's not like anyone cares about Eonar parses

[primal tangle]

I saw an Eonar parse that lasted 1 minute

[calm grail]

Eonar parses are all anyone cares about.

[primal tangle]

To this day I cannot fully explain whta happend

[civic palm]

Bugged/Edited parse.

ezpz

[onyx falcon]

True

[chilly plume]

can some 1 help me i got The Empty Crown and insignia of ravenholdt whats better ?

[civic palm]

run your gear through https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/topgear and find out :"D

[chilly plume]

😦

[devout hollow]

same

[civic palm]

I don't know the rest of your gear.

[devout hollow]

will this take a large amount of permutations

[civic palm]

If you have a crafted JC helm Crown loses value, if you have no other legendaries, etc.

[devout hollow]

[civic palm]

Variables yaknow?

[jovial kite]

thank you ill vary your apples

[civic palm]

Keep Red "Delicious" out of the variables please.

Fucking LIAR APPLE.

[jovial kite]

so you want putrid green? 🤔

[civic palm]

Might be better.

[jovial kite]

its fucking putrid man

[devout hollow]

ITERATIONS: 960,000 / 300,000

smh

[civic palm]

Yeah well the Red Delicious lied, maybe this is a liar as well.

[devout hollow]

ill just run my sims overnight

[civic palm]

I mean...

you could stop putting in 200 legendaries and things would be fine as well.

[devout hollow]

yeah i know was just messing around

[civic palm]

200 legendaries and four haste rings, whaddayaevendoin?!

[devout hollow]

:^)

[civic palm]

:"D

[devout hollow]

running sims also keeps my room warm

[tranquil birch]

are there really 200?

[civic palm]

Maybe? Dunno.

[tranquil birch]

Just use raidbots @devout hollow

uses the same simc builds just sends the load to their servers

[devout hollow]

lol its ok guys i was just jokin, purposefully put all my legs in there to get a high count

[civic palm]

He was kiddin 😛

[gilded lark]

[devout hollow]

right so Ill use it going forward

:^)

[gilded lark]

velox he said it was too many iterations

[tranquil birch]

🤔

[devout hollow]

is it the sim nightly bases and regularly updated

[civic palm]

What a useless fucker.

Yeah it's entirely updated.

[devout hollow]

coo

[tranquil birch]

yes for rogues it's exceptionaly well kept

[lone junco]

(Except for the 8months that we thought haste was bad for outlaw, then it was best)

[civic palm]

I don't follow those weirdos.

Though IIRC people didn't wanna do SnD/Frond because Frond was kinda all over the place and SnD was just fucking dull.

[urban storm]

i hated frond

was more rng on top of already too much rng

but im pretty sure SND wasn't even > RTB at that point

[onyx falcon]

Noobe what realm you in?

[turbid zealot]

these bracers have numped my dps so good.

[mental aurora]

Would anyone be willing to look over my log and give me some advice? I feel like I have a good grasp on my rotation, but there's always room for improvement.

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/mnDYNVb1QWft6L7x/#fight=6&source=77&type=damage-done

wrong paste lol

[exotic glen]

quick things i noted when looking at your log was

using seeping scourgewing on high command is probably a bad idea, use something else if you have it

your gear is not very optimised

[mental aurora]

I'm really just working with what I have. maybe some tips as to my rotation, which I can improve without waiting for rng drops

[exotic glen]

your opener strays from the "normal" opener that most people would use

you miss out on 30% extra dmg on initial KB hit and TB hit

you dont use your thumb ring on your opener, which is where you do most of your burst

and you only used it once during the fight

you dont use your second vanish after your stealth opener runs out, which is a dps loss unless you're trying to cheese adds with PB

you used your second vanish to reapply garrote (when you're not even playing subterfuge) and rupture, dont do this. use vanish to spam mut > envenoms

you keep using your cds wrong as well, you do kb > tb, when tb will enhance the initial kb hit pretty significantly

use cds on cd

you could literally pull up any random high lvl log and see that your rotation is totally different from theirs, nothing wrong with simply copying someone elses rotation if it works

[turbid harbor]

the advice i always give is to look at other people's logs and compare what they're doing differently to you

if you don't understand why what they're doing is more successful than what you're doing, that's when you should ask questions

[exotic glen]

yeah i realised that halfway through reading the log

[jovial kite]

https://gyazo.com/71ae94753e802881481d18d5f0dce239

im about to 1shot ascension 5 decu on 1st turn @gaunt moat

[gaunt moat]

Decu?

[restive flume]

Hi guys, been reading the theorycrafting updates re exanguinate on 2 targets. Any real world applications in antorus atm?

[gaunt moat]

I'm only on ascension 3 on ironclad and 2 on silent

[restive flume]

Thats a pretty huge gain

[jovial kite]

the last boss

https://gyazo.com/32c7636076d2482178670dd376fa8517

got this achi

from ascension 5

rofl

1 shot that fucking donut couple

https://gyazo.com/bbbb91f2065e12695bfb1cd964016f0f

look at this deck

its insane

triple offering

double warcry

got 64 strenght on turn one

infinite loop

[gaunt moat]

Jeez.
I always end up with a 40~ cards deck

[jovial kite]

thin deck the way to go mate

[gilded lark]

hey guys can you take this to #off-topic please

this is not assassination related

[restive flume]

Sorry should I Redirect my query elsewhere?

[jovial kite]

he wasnt talking to you :p

[gaunt moat]

Well the silent is basically a sin rogue

[jovial kite]

^ this

[gaunt moat]

I'm not good at keeping a thin deck

I see a card i like. I take.

[jovial kite]

its worth though

i spend almost all my gold on card removal

remove strikes gets the best performance i found

[supple hearth]

@restive flume broad's comment says "this is not assassination related" obviously directed on the conversation about cards that is burying your assassination related question.

[lone junco]

@onyx falcon us thrall.

@restive flume yeah 2T mut is great.

So far I believe we FOK at 3. But I didn't run the personally. I did run mut on 2.

The sim has a condition called AOE for >=3 I believe.

[restive flume]

So they changed it to 2 targets and it still turned out to be a gain? Am i interpreting it correct?

Correctly*

Oh mut on 2 got it.

[lone junco]

It is probably highly dependent on crit.

Or mastery. But that can be cleared up.

[restive flume]

Great.

what Im really looking for is a high parsed exang log so we can change it up a bit haha

[lone junco]

I have some things to work out in bracer tbh.

[inner socket]

noobe when are you going to recruit me so i can learn how to rogue properly

[delicate gorge]

@lone junco I didn't bother to put it in the report because the gain wasn't very noticeable, but mutilate on 3 targets is still better than fok under the same conditions that are on the APL changes

[lone junco]

I would have to see the report. But sounds good.

[delicate gorge]

gonna try to do it again on simcraft after i manage to finish pugging antorus

[tacit ferry]

got mantle from my essences 😂

hnnngh

[frosty pagoda]

I can get the cloak or bracers rn about to see what happens

exciting either way

wew lad

[regal cape]

gratz

[gilded lark]

rip

[tacit ferry]

we just spam 4cp envenoms then huh

with the shoulders

[strange python]

I love that cape

[lone junco]

3 env during shoulder.

@tacit ferry I have a buff track for shoulder to help see how that worked out.

[strange python]

Same. I usually make a little WA for shoulders just to show duration

[lone junco]

Sucks to be low e and only get 2 or 1 env cause you are starved.

I use the same bar for env. Ep. Shoulder. Kb. Just stacked and different colors.

[tacit ferry]

i meant 4 cp

not the amount of envs

[strange python]

yes 4cp envs

[gilded lark]

how else do you get 3 in shoulder window

[strange python]

^

lol

[gilded lark]

there's no way to generate 5cp on single target and still get 3 in 5 globals

[tacit ferry]

right

i understand

[gilded lark]

are you sure

[tacit ferry]

was just asking for clarification

lol?

yeah im sure dog

[strange python]

even during shoulders, u literally can only get mut > env > mut > env > mut > env

[gilded lark]

except no 1st mut like that

[strange python]

^

just making an example

[gilded lark]

if you vanish+mut you need to delete your mantle

[strange python]

LOL

i sure as shit don't, i go into mantle with 4-5

whether i'm doing 2nd mantle right or not, is debatable.

[gilded lark]

2nd vanish should be the same as first

but it is preferred to line it up with last 5s of kb, and have TB rolling beforehand

[strange python]

okay yeah i'm doing it right then

that way buffed env hits hard w/ last ticks of KB so ive been told

[frosty pagoda]

That comment on the bottom is amazing

[strange python]

lmfao

ew

[vapid moth]

Ahhh guild stuck on coven for yet another week

[strange python]

stuck on vari atm

[vapid moth]

vari is easy. once tanks get their shit togetther

[strange python]

for us it's not tanks, it's the fucking dps who can't stand on markers

adds are dying fine, just some dps float off markers for some reason

♿

[vapid moth]

lol wtf

first ive heard of that issue

[strange python]

yup. i play ele for a main. literally the only issue we have is people don't know how to stand on markers.

occasionally spreading necro plague. like hello heroic mechanic how are u

[exotic glen]

@strange python where did you find that comment? that is fucking gold

found it on the only assa youtube channel i know infexious gaming

[primal tangle]

Does lock gate drop PK hasabel orbs?

[urban storm]

no

[strange python]

ye

[dire spoke]

👀

[gilded lark]

why would it tho

lock portals don't dispel

monday WoW is so boring

literally just wait until tomorrow

[primal tangle]

Have no clue but my lock insists :/

[turbid galleon]

100% does not

[gilded lark]

it's a magic debuff/dot, why the fuck would a lock portal dispel it

[primal tangle]

Yea I basically had to make him

[gilded lark]

what you do now is

sit him down

on that bench

and leave him there

😃

[wise frigate]

You know that feeling when you walk in your house and you see your roommate ripping a line on the living room table?

Cause I just found out.

[jovial kite]

no actually

i dont know

hows the feel

[exotic glen]

ask if hes got one for you

[wise frigate]

Pretty shit considering she's one of the reasons my house is nearly 1.5k behind on rent.

Me and the other "normal" roomie are both caught up 100%.

[dire spoke]

wow that's heavy

[wise frigate]

The other 3 are fucking us.

[gilded lark]

ban

[jovial kite]

🔨

[exotic glen]

no swearing pls

[gilded lark]

ey

fuck you

😃

[wise frigate]

Fucking bitch ass tits cunt.

[gilded lark]

[exotic glen]

thought this was a christian discord

[prime void]

aggramar is snooooozefest

[gilded lark]

you mean

[dire spoke]

george carlin all the way

[gilded lark]

patchwerk boss for rogue

with 2 intermissions

[jovial kite]

tbh

we should make that bitch walk the plank

but first blow that shit up her ass

oh and get the money too

[wise frigate]

Giggity?

[supple hearth]

🤔

too much profanity here. please edit and replace every profane word with 🥄

tysm

/s

[jovial kite]

didnt you see?

they did birb dirty

we must make the coke snorter pay

[turbid galleon]

start buying from her to she can pay rent

[jovial kite]

implying that cock gurgler is a hustler when she cant even pay the rent

[wise frigate]

She owes me money for internet as well.

[jovial kite]

throw her out?

[wise frigate]

I'm technically not on the lease atm cause I was planning on moving out but that fell through. And her boyfriend might take issue with me trying to get her evicted.

[jovial kite]

tell him shes a cock munching junkie

[gilded lark]

steal her from him

then when he leaves

kick her the fuck out too

problem solved

[jovial kite]

i dont even

its fucking thuesday

??

[exotic glen]

thuesday

[dire spoke]

thuesterday

[vapid moth]

Steal her coke. Sell it for more than she bought it

Or just steal her coke

[manic vigil]

Just the usual sin talk in here 👌

[jovial kite]

the bitch did birb dirty 😠

[lone junco]

Living in sin. Per usual.

[onyx falcon]

all you need is sin

[lone junco]

My wife has the flu and I was yawning and she literally coughed into my mouth. Rip.

[quick ice]

you're gonna die

sorry

[onyx falcon]

RIP Noobe, you will not be remembered

[gilded lark]

why were you yawning that close to her face

put her in one of those quarantine bubbles

[vapid moth]

I don't get sick

[quick talon]

Hello

[manic vigil]

Sup

[vapid moth]

My guild finally got past coven

[steep obsidian]

grats

[vapid moth]

Only had to leave 6 pulls before

[manic vigil]

So you were holding them back

Makes sense

[steep obsidian]

easier then heroic in some ways that its completely scripted and same every time

[paper elbow]

Quick question regarding which build is better for an alt. Bleed or poison?

[steep obsidian]

i wonder how fucked it would have been if the titans were random

[quick talon]

Both are fine

[steep obsidian]

bleed is harder to gear for

[quick talon]

Poison is easier to gear for in antorus

[paper elbow]

Are any leggo dependant?

[manic vigil]

Bleedy boi is for edge lords

[dire spoke]

sup

[manic vigil]

Pretty much

[paper elbow]

Ty @quick talon

[vapid moth]

Lmao my thoughts exactly @manic vigil

[quick talon]

Bleed is pretty much bound to boots/bracer

[manic vigil]

😃

[vapid moth]

It's OK though, already got my coven kill

Wait...

No I didn't

[manic vigil]

Not an affliction warlock fbm

[vapid moth]

That was the group that did the mass purge

[tranquil birch]

Bleedy boi is for people who choose to ♿ willingly

Looks like it's gonna be strong in 8.0 though, you guys see the mastery changes?

[worthy thistle]

Gonna be the same probably, spells will be tuned accordingly, maybe a little better than in this tier

[strange python]

is the site down? D:

rip ravenholdt?

[worthy thistle]

But I don't really remember new talent tree so maybe bleed gets better talents

Y it's down atm

[turbid harbor]

strength always depends on the assigned numbers

bleed certainly looks healthier from a design standpoint though because it will scale with an extra stat

[worthy thistle]

Ye true it will scale better

Guess it will be based on tier bonuses, assuming they still change each tier with the new artifact shit

[turbid harbor]

no more tier bonuses

[strange python]

gonna go sim for sin, see if my shoulders / wrists are best, or if i should run wrists / boots. seeing a lot of people using wrist boot combo on top parses

[worthy thistle]

We still get tier bonuses from new artifact as I understood it

Azeroth neck or w/e

[hazy iron]

no

theyre not tier

they're just a new artifact basically

[worthy thistle]

Didn't they say they Wil just set bonuses to that so people don't have to use certain gear?

Pieces that is

[hazy iron]

ah not sure, now you have me questioning my memory lol

but tier peices dont exist anymore

and then im pretty sure in a dev talk, they said that the neck basically replaces the artifact, mechanically

[worthy thistle]

@strange python bracers are undervalued in sims, especially compared to raid with bosses like pk/kinga and such with multiple execute phases (although kinga is a bad example) point is bracers are better in practice than sims

[strange python]

no, i know bracers are stupidly strong, was just wondering if i should run boots over shoulders

cause i see a ton of people with top parses doing boots and wrists

[gilded lark]

simerino

we have 4 legos all very close together

best bet is to sim

[worthy thistle]

Ye but in pretty sure they said they remove tiers to not force people to occupy those 4 slots, which they tried to fix now with 6 set pieces but didn't like it so they will add bonuses to neck instead

[strange python]

just did, sim like 400k lower with boots n wrists compared to shoulders and wrists

[gilded lark]

400k

[strange python]

sorry

40k*

[gilded lark]

oh

that makes more sense

[hazy iron]

lol

[gilded lark]

was like

[worthy thistle]

Because otherwise m+ would totally> raiding

[gilded lark]

did you take off your weapon

[hazy iron]

whats the ideal number of vendetta relics without boots anyways?

[worthy thistle]

3

[hazy iron]

and 2 with boots?

[worthy thistle]

3 still

[hazy iron]

sweet

[worthy thistle]

But with 3 mAlch as well ofc

Actually not gonna lie not 100% surr without boots because it was my 2nd leggy

But I believe 3 mAlch/mAss is bis for everything, except for bleed

Ye its bis even without boots, only thing that changes without boots is that using 2 mAss relics literally doesn't do anything except for losinga relic slot @hazy iron

So is either 1 or 3

[hazy iron]

why is 2 useless, is it bugged?

[vapid moth]

Lmfao 400k

Could you imagine changing one leggo and having dps drop 20%

[worthy thistle]

Nah u hold vendetta for vanish with 2 relics anyways so it gets wasted

[vapid moth]

And yea. The new neck should take the place of tier gear. And the artifact. A mix of both that should provide more choice based on playstyle

[jovial kite]

Where is everybody 🤔

[civic palm]

Playing Monster Hunter.

or ... finding children to sacrifice in their vain quest to get allied races tomorrow.

[jovial kite]

oh i thought we were blowing coke

[civic palm]

Either/or

Cock, not coke, come on.

[jovial kite]

Right 😄

Cocke

[civic palm]

Nice to see you are not dead from whatever is ailing you recently.

[jovial kite]

Yeah im back to work

we have a union organized strike on friday

Gotta work longer hours until then

[civic palm]

Fun. Wages?

[jovial kite]

something something about the overall employment situation or someshit

[civic palm]

Ugh.

[jovial kite]

Im fine tbh.. and id rather be working 😄

[civic palm]

Of course. I find striking reasons to be hilarious most of the time, so long they're not about working conditions.

Safety/etc.

[magic wren]

garrote by 20% or envenom by 16%

?

[civic palm]

ENV

[magic wren]

tyvm

[civic palm]

That will be 1021 Ducates.

This motherfucker just dine and dashed me.

[magic wren]

😉

[grim jay]

wonder how much fun monster hunter really is in the long run

[civic palm]

If you enjoy that kind of game then it's going to be fun until you find a place to stop.

[grim jay]

I dont even know what that "kind of game" truely is tbh

even after watching some videos

seems like you kinda just slash around on some monsters you find while running around

[shrewd night]

If you enjoy that kind of game then it's going to be fun until you find a place to stop.

So pretty much like any other game 😂

Also, good moaning

[vivid bone]

yo

[dire spoke]

ppl are awake, ayyy

[civic palm]

@shrewd night That's only some of the time, as things can get dull.

[shrewd night]

True, but that means you found the place to stop 😄

[muted maple]

im gonna pass on monhun and get the DBZ game.

hoenstly seems like a higher RoI.

[civic palm]

Monster Hunter does one of the best jobs someone can on making progression heavily iterative and improvement focused.

[muted maple]

if it develops a good community i might even go to evo for it.

[shrewd night]

The Hunt: Showdown is going into closed alpha soon 🙏

[grim jay]

dbz nowadays sucks

so

😄

the hunt looks interesting ye

[muted maple]

seems irrelevant to how good that game can be.

or is

since its out now.

[civic palm]

DBZF looks better than the show anyway > _>

[muted maple]

super is real bad.

abridged is the highest quality dragonball related entertainment you can get.

[civic palm]

It feels like it 's trying to be too OG.

[muted maple]

thats all it has to stand on.

[shrewd night]

Since we are on the dbz memes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4MSceT4hzk

[civic palm]

Even if you scrub through the filler it's bad.

[muted maple]

ye.

though DBZ:f is going to have its fair share of memers.

[civic palm]

The only reason I even watch it is to appreciate just how much better other Shonen shows are.

[muted maple]

ive already had 3 guys who main teen gohan tell me about their shockingly dissimilar theories on how gohan was meant to be the protagonist of the series, but goku just sold more manga.

[civic palm]

Shoulda let Goku die of heart disease > _>

[muted maple]

saiyan cholesterol shows no mercy

[civic palm]

20000000000000lbs of Rice a day does that to you.

[muted maple]

they had to bring that man a tylenol from the future to save him.

[civic palm]

somehow

[fast nacelle]

mantle bracer 2.270m
boots bracer 2.267m
insignia bracer 2.295m
🤔

[grim jay]

thats new for you?

[muted maple]

boots bracer 🤔

[grim jay]

insignia sims quite high since the muti buff

[fast nacelle]

yes bc i was retarded.. i made sims last week and it was 2.63m bracer insignia

when i simmed all 3 with top gear

[grim jay]

2.63m 🤔

[fast nacelle]

forgot that i play with ep and subterfuge with insignia

🤔

not mp ns

and simmed all 3 in top gear with mp ns 🍆

[grim jay]

weak already mentioned insignia siming quite good atm

sims highest for him aswell I think

[fast nacelle]

its so damn good on 2 targets

[dire spoke]

eww EP :<

[shrewd night]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/aXtkdAVrXypiwSjrnsPMzg

🤔

Might be that the talents make a HYOOOGE difference, but it aint looking good breh

[civic palm]

1% ain't enough.

[shrewd night]

Besides, EP

[pine walrus]

Hey, is Insignia of Ravenholdt a decent legendary? i managed to drop it on my rogue 😃

[strange python]

yea

[pine walrus]

Sweet, feels like a pretty decent Mythic + leg? or does it work well in raiding aswell?

[strange python]

m+ you gotta pray for procs, in raiding insig sims well

[pine walrus]

Ah, i see.. so Assa is RNG in mythic + then?

[grim jay]

shoulder/insig bro

not insig/boots

@shrewd night

with anti

[midnight latch]

👺

[grim jay]

on aoe PB isnt even that much of rng

😄

[inland gull]

Guys, is there a way i can simulate a relic with tier2 and tier3 traits without putting into my weapon?

[strange python]

raidbots

copy simc export and use raidbots relic sim fam

[inland gull]

oooooooooh, thanks, i was hoping this time i dont get a 'read x and y in sticky somewhere

😛

[strange python]

cheeck the pins though

only joking ^ ^

[midnight latch]

📌 📌 📌 📌 📌 📌 📌 📌 📌 📌 📌 📌 📌 📌

[civic palm]

I am not joking...

READ THE PINS There is a guide at the top.

[midnight latch]

📌 📌 📌 📌 📌 📌 📌 📌 📌 📌 📌 📌 📌 📌

[viscid helm]

@midnight latch

[inland gull]

im kinda new to this website, does this already use the 7.3.5 build which is up on simc website under nightly builds?

[civic palm]

Which website? Raidbots?

[inland gull]

yep

[civic palm]

So long you have Nightly chosen from the dropdown menu it will use the most recent Nightly.

[grim jay]

tbf we dont have smth about relic compare on raidbots pinned here

😄

[midnight latch]

@viscid helm

[inland gull]

this might decide my endless headache from last evening, need to login with my potato though to make the input of the t2 t3 traits, results in some min :p

[dense aspen]

has there been a new nightly build to raidbots? simming way lower then i did 2 days ago (same talents and gear ofc)

[civic palm]

What is "way lower"?

[dense aspen]

like 45k ST

[civic palm]

There has been some optimization that is going to more accurately simulate DPS.

[warm parcel]

How about

📌

[civic palm]

I was thinking of making an image to post everytime someone asks a pinned question, but then things were changing way too much for me to want to do that.

[fast nacelle]

anticipation just 8k below vigor 🤔

[inland gull]

the result a little surprised me though

the new relic is 945 poison dmg, choosing tier 2 light embrace with Master Assassin, is 8k higher than choosing Dark Sorrows into mut crit chance in t3 ( the other t3 is sprint cd)

[grim jay]

dark sorrows is barely any dmg on ST

[gilded lark]

Well yeah, vend cd is better than mut crit

Not that mut crit isnt good

And dark sorrows is a garbage t2

[inland gull]

ye i know, but the hot buff on me is 0 :p

[zealous dew]

3PK ftw

got iron from LK 😄

[grim jay]

lichking?

[zealous dew]

yep

[grim jay]

nicu

[zealous dew]

killed in lfr

how can I live now without my awesome 6s vendetta cd

I can't bare the pain

I mean, my ST will suffera lot when I need to run and take every single fucking flame

[grim jay]

one day we will be able to timewalk lichking

😄

[zealous dew]

can't wait

maybe they will add more bugs

like mutilate stacks to 999 and does damage in the future

[grim jay]

stacking % while execute

like with fury

😄

[zealous dew]

lolz

azshara 25+ tyr 20m dps

[shrewd night]

@grim jay https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/tBhzLDJMEysT7S5wb6i2dG

No anti tho

because

[vivid bone]

whats anti

[shrewd night]

Anticipation

[vivid bone]

is that a thing now? ._.

[shrewd night]

Insignia + anti is apparantly like the new meme

[vivid bone]

wow

[midnight latch]

anti is a thing yeah

have you not been

in this channel

[vivid bone]

I did get insignia last night

[midnight latch]

for the past week?

[vivid bone]

meh, in and out

busy at work 😦

[midnight latch]

oh I see

[shrewd night]

dw, he probably have caught up on the NS cheap shot bug

[vivid bone]

haha I did see that 😉

[midnight latch]

😐

[vivid bone]

Silly Naya

[warm parcel]

Also in case you missed

https://gfycat.com/BigFloweryBluebird @midnight latch

[viscid helm]

Nice opener Naya

[midnight latch]

🤦

@viscid helm thanks should I teach you? I can stream now

[viscid helm]

Nice

Already had fun watching Lorentz progress argus last night

[indigo idol]

dont get it tbh

[midnight latch]

seee 😄

[vivid bone]

He used cheap shot

[midnight latch]

ppl dont realize its a mistake

xD

so I am fine

[vivid bone]

That's even worse

[indigo idol]

heard somethin about a cheap shot bug

so im askin

[vivid bone]

Ok, you're trolling

[midnight latch]

he is trolling

[viscid helm]

Neither did Naya before it was pointed out to him

🤷

[midnight latch]

RUDE

[indigo idol]

hmm

[midnight latch]

actually I did not realize that I fat fingered cheapshot until weak went like
"did you just vanish cheapshot?!?"

[indigo idol]

ahhh okay xD

thought its a mechanic ubg like pk

[midnight latch]

nah dude

[zealous dew]

so ?

[midnight latch]

I am just bad as fuck

[zealous dew]

you can't vanish cs ?

what's wrong with that

[viscid helm]

When do you raid @midnight latch

[midnight latch]

@viscid helm tommorrow

gonna have that sick gloomblade stream fam

[viscid helm]

Blyat raid tonight

[steep obsidian]

vanish cheapshot still get 3 poison bombs in opener to top dps coz game feels bad for you

[vivid bone]

the more mistakes you make, the more poison bomb procs

I see

[midnight latch]

feelscheapshotman

[shrewd night]

Sssssssssssssssssssh

Dont ruin the cheap shot meme

[midnight latch]

@warm parcel you gonna stream today?

have to clip some of your mages moves as an answer to your gif

[shrewd night]

Ill stream today, but lets be honest, who wants to watch vari progress haHAA

[zealous dew]

I do

[shrewd night]

Fair, Ill stream then

[dire spoke]

👀 h3h3 nayaGIF

@shrewd night I watch too if you're top3 hot

[shrewd night]

But if I am top3 hot, I dont do public log, which means you wont be able to tell

[dire spoke]

damn you're right 🤔 also no pov

[onyx rock]

This feels... hmm...

[timber crow]

Interesting

[dire spoke]

one lego?

[shrewd night]

He has two in both?

Watchu looking at

[dire spoke]

Oh 🤦

Was looking at bracers slot

[zealous dew]

and insignia bracers?

[onyx rock]

The 2028108 one is with 50% crit oO

[timber crow]

Wow

[onyx rock]

No i simed all possible combinations

The first is the highest one for typical posion build and the second the highest possible overall

seems weird

[dire spoke]

it's weaks setup too iirc

[onyx rock]

sry what do iirc mean ?

[shrewd night]

if I recall correctly

[dire spoke]

ty

[onyx rock]

oh ok

[shrewd night]

These are like 1998 acronyms

Zempai is old, I apologize on his behalf

[onyx rock]

so i guess the first sim with mantle/bracers will have more max dps... i dont have simcraft here so i cant check right now

[dire spoke]

Back in my day, we had to kill elementals for legendaries 👴

I hated clipping env+EP

But 20k is heavy

[onyx rock]

y it is

it just feels wrong

no big opener... no execute

[zealous dew]

no dmg in general, it's the class 😃

[onyx rock]

lol

[shrewd night]

I dont have high burst in my opener either, but I just have high steady dps which means I catch up with the subrogue and other assrogues, then top them during execute

[zealous dew]

because they die ?

[shrewd night]

No, because they dont have consistent deeps

[zealous dew]

no bracers?

kick them from prog

[dire spoke]

I want to sim and test sin so bad 👺

In smarties case I wouldn't know what to play either tho, could be diff bosswise I believe

[midnight latch]

@zealous dew getting yelled at for low damage on prog cause boss never reaches execute

equip shoulders top 5 dps
:omegalul:

[warm parcel]

Ye @midnight latch

[midnight latch]

@warm parcel noice

[signal summit]

@shrewd night ur in memento aswell?

[midnight latch]

[shrewd night]

Sure dude

Sure

[midnight latch]

Siennar in memento

😂

[warm parcel]

Now now

No bully 👺

[shrewd night]

Whats with this channel and not being able to spell my name right

[midnight latch]

well jugdging by how you played on your mage

everyone could be in memento

[strange python]

hey peeps.. my lil rogue is around 935 now and i got cloak and the crafted boots... is it ok to use fan of knifes with 30 stacks on single target? or do i never use it on pure single target :3

[shrewd night]

30 stacks is fine

Noobe had some nice graph about it, but he aint here right now

[midnight latch]

SHHHHHHHHHHHIENNAR

[strange python]

only 30 ? or is there a threshhold i should wait for

[shrewd night]

THERE WE GO

[dire spoke]

Sierra

[warm parcel]

30 really

[strange python]

oki ty ty ^.^

[pure jackal]

https://i.gyazo.com/thumb/1200/f7154dfcaac695c10065b315aa6bf499-png.jpg

a week of essence for this

why live

[pliant lion]

whats the font

on the legendary thing

[pure jackal]

big noodle titling

[shrewd night]

ehehehehe

I got the outlaw gloves

feelsgudman

[pure jackal]

oof

one of my mates hit 110 on his rogue and got fuckin mantle from an emissary without doing any real content

😩 🔫

[solar fog]

rip

[warm parcel]

Whats this recent oof meta

Everyone keeps saying it now

[pure jackal]

🤷🏼

[warm parcel]

Is that the new word of the month

[dire spoke]

oof > anti

[warm parcel]

🤔

[pure jackal]

been hearing a lot of 'yikes' recently

[dire spoke]

I like schnitzels

it's fun

And tasty

[pure jackal]

https://gyazo.com/31c2054f7d111a4f3e3d2c287923ce1d only a 170k downgrade 😩 💦

[prime void]

I got mantle-cape-sub bracers-sub hands- back

Figured I should swap mains at that point and havent looked back

[wild ledge]

Don’t worry cloak isn’t useless, at least you’ll use it in m+

Still more chance of getting something you’ll never ever even want to equip

[pure jackal]

isnt mantle bis if you dont use 2set4set

ah

[wild ledge]

Mistype

[pure jackal]

issue is though

i lose 4set so idk

[wild ledge]

Probs not then 😃 gotta get them other tier items

Man I won’t miss tier in bfa

[zealous dew]

Hehe @midnight latch

Mantle boots till you wipe at above 30

Boy let's keep this rogue he's good

[midnight latch]

equips memento

press evasion and cloak when rl calls for a wipe

[zealous dew]

Fury warrior benched

[pure jackal]

hehe

[midnight latch]

AMA I get you those #1 dps slots on wipes

[zealous dew]

Memento on lfr argus whispers you I'm tired of proccing please leave the raid

[jagged dragon]

!guide

[midnight latch]

@jagged dragon http://www.ravenholdt.net/assassination-guide/

[zealous dew]

100 uptime p4

[atomic hamlet]

Quick question: what's your DPS on imonar myt ?

[midnight latch]

@zealous dew memento on coven

walls spawn

infinite 3x proc

[zealous dew]

Lolz

Have a dk grip a wall on a dips

[midnight latch]

19 players dead on coven

[zealous dew]

Every 15s

[midnight latch]

after first walls

♿

[zealous dew]

Evasion memento 4,m dps

We did it boys

[shrewd night]

Ay yo @warm parcel is outlaw a thing on coven if you're not benched? Or just balls to the wall ass?

Apparantly blade flurry both bosses is a meme

[warm parcel]

Really

OL

Hello

But ye. Dlurry hits both given good tanks

[shrewd night]

Nice, thanks

[zealous dew]

Try in a hc pug bosses are so.far apart that sprint is not enough to cover the distance

[shrewd night]

Pugging HC

[zealous dew]

CBA to do with guild takes forever

All alts doing less DMG than tanks

[wild ledge]

When hc night becomes alt/social night, time to join a pug

Clean pugs are a thing

[zealous dew]

Yeah

Decent pug clear in 1h30

[pure jackal]

not being guildless after being gkicked for sleeping through the first hour of progress

[wild ledge]

And tbh at this point, on main and main alt, only need a couple of bosses, so fuck a full clear, just join groups for the couple I need, ez

[pure jackal]

:omegalul:

[prime void]

1hr 30 for a full heroic? That seems a bit fast

[zealous dew]

Well essences for leg alts

[shrewd night]

The only thing I pug is argus for the quick golg upgrade 🤷

[wild ledge]

Might as well just smash normal if it’s just for ess

[zealous dew]

Harder to get some tf

And not so easier you can find really bad stuff there

Normal pug link mythic eonar

[pure jackal]

literally me 30 mins ago

[plucky valve]

Hey...I'm used to slacking as a shadowpriest...but now I have to sim on my own...how do I sim Crucible Weights?

[shrewd night]

???

[pure jackal]

download crucible weights and simc

i think

[plucky valve]

I have simC, went to raidbots, simulated new statweights for Pawn

but I can't find the CruibleWeight one

[zealous dew]

How do you sim you priests

[warm parcel]

You dont

[pure jackal]

play spriest, get max haste

[warm parcel]

Sp just goes by numbers usually

Ye

[plucky valve]

Priests have "masters" doing like 8905t385908 milion sims

[zealous dew]

Lok

[pure jackal]

even if u have to be 800 ilvl for it

[plucky valve]

so we just pick whichever comes closest to our current haste level+tier set

Or at least I do...but I'm only a heroic raider so 😄

[zealous dew]

Kewl

[plucky valve]

But CrucibleWeight is it on Raidbots aswell?

[shrewd oriole]

yep

[warm parcel]

Nop. You sim your relics aswell to get accurate comparison

If you want a guideline value for them hd.com

[plucky valve]

ah yeah I just go back and work from relics...I'm retarded 😄

[dire spoke]

For raidbots NLC you can install the simc ingame addon and copy the output from /simc into the textarea on quicksim - data will be added to your toon on raidbots database for further usage

(switch from Arsenal to custom)

[grizzled shard]

Can someone please explain what the cheapshot bug is?

[zealous dew]

@midnight latch

[wise frigate]

PM @midnight latch for more details, @grizzled shard

[dire spoke]

^ ask him for the GIF too

[zealous dew]

He discovered it

[grizzled shard]

Is it just a meme haha

[vivid bone]

you god damn knew it was just a meme

[wise frigate]

If you didn't know it was a meme, go reroll Arms or something.

[zealous dew]

Roll a useful class

BM hunter

[quick ice]

Rofl

[midnight latch]

oh

my

god

[wise frigate]

:D

[zealous dew]

He's very much alive

Look out we are not alone

[grizzled shard]

What is a cheapshot btw??

[quick ice]

Unfortunately :cheapshot: isn't a reaction yet

[zealous dew]

A shot not so generous

[wise frigate]

A shot that's typically considered unfair.

[dire spoke]

It's when you get a hooker on sales

[zealous dew]

I.e. you go out on a date with a girl and you ask to split the chrck. She will call you cheap

So you just shot at her

[midnight latch]

PSA there is no Cheapshot bug. Its just me being a shit tier rogue player

[quick ice]

So you shot web?

[warm parcel]

🤦

[midnight latch]

@Notter can you pin that?

[zealous dew]

Poor Naya

[quick ice]

How did you even do it btw @midnight latch?

[midnight latch]

sekret

[zealous dew]

Slimfingered

[shrewd night]

tbf, it is a cheap shot of us to make a meme out of the cheapshot bug

Cheap shotception

[dire spoke]

[quick ice]

It's like, my CS hotkey is not near my dps buttons

[zealous dew]

Haha dps buttons good joke

[jovial kite]

Somebody fell for cheapshotbug?

LUL

[dire spoke]

when you smash them buttons for more dps

[inland ridge]

How is the Sim addon called?

[midnight latch]

pousonweaving alloveragain

[dire spoke]

simulationcraft 🤔

[quick ice]

SimulationCraft

[inland ridge]

Aaaaah thanks alot

Will Install later

[zealous dew]

Suddenly too many rogues

What's happening

[jovial kite]

They all hurd assa bis

[dire spoke]

fotm

[zealous dew]

I thought fury was fotm

[jovial kite]

Notter been recruiting for deathcult again

[gaunt moat]

@quick ice you can also just sim online on www.raidbots.com

It uses simC

[dire spoke]

🤔

[quick ice]

I know? I think you meant to tag the other guy.

[gaunt moat]

Wrong tag

[zealous dew]

notter is so professional

[wise frigate]

Notter best bune.

[jovial kite]

Typical gibberish associated with cult brainwash

[wise frigate]

We've gotta give Notter a break. He's a small indie mod.

[gaunt moat]

On phone.. Power is out. 😩

[zealous dew]

Lol

[dire spoke]

@gaunt moat think the Q was referring to my NLC answer

[thorn needle]

Small indie mod

[jovial kite]

Did you dump the cock gurgler already birb

[quick ice]

It's ok @gaunt moat, I'll remember to tag you in something inconsequential when you're in bed later 😁

[gaunt moat]

Taksik

[jovial kite]

??

🤔

[zealous dew]

Notter is hijacking power plants

[thorn needle]

[jovial kite]

taksik???

[gaunt moat]

That's finnish for toxic

[jovial kite]

Lol

[wise frigate]

She sometimes pays rent so I can't just get rid of her. Rent's too cheap to pass up. The coke is just something I gotta deal with.

[dire spoke]

thats polishpretzel talk man

[quick ice]

I just assumed you had big fingers @gaunt moat

[jovial kite]

More like vau toksik

[gaunt moat]

*paws

[midnight latch]

finnish toxic is spelled @viscid helm thou

😂

[gaunt moat]

Anyway i'm bored. Can't play STS. So guess i'll go gym 😟

[zealous dew]

Sow the seeds ?

[quick ice]

Did you sleep before this time?

[dire spoke]

can we get yogapants Selfie @gaunt moat

[wise frigate]

Slay the PussSpire

[zealous dew]

Lol

Tank top selfie

[quick ice]

Bunny in yoga pants... Heh

[zealous dew]

With 2 hot chicks

[quick ice]

"my internet friends want me to take this photo"

[midnight latch]

i'll take the chicks to go thx

[zealous dew]

Naya told me that notter benched ,180 kg last night

,8 clean reps

[wise frigate]

Furries 🤢

[dire spoke]

is that his 180kg not raiding?

[midnight latch]

yeah cause thats roughly what your mom weights right?

[zealous dew]

My mom is dead

[wise frigate]

OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH beathe OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHoh

[midnight latch]

called deadlift for a reason

[zealous dew]

Hahaha

[grim jay]

hello im balancing my mistweaver but now im chalanging whit haste speed people say hast is worst stat but to less you feal that you walking behind the facts and on 17% im fine but 10% im a turtel al tho my 10% build get 24 verz 25 crit and mastery is olmost extinkt
but on the 17 % i loeze like crit or verz im ust to play whit sholders legendarry and doorway that gives me the most out of it and can shot down in raid and still heal to get mana back basicly can go whit 1% for eternety on 1300k hps i try to sqweeze the last good % out but if i drop balance point i feel it

What is it and why is it on our discord?

[warm parcel]

Brutal

[zealous dew]

Slash

[warm parcel]

Spam gtfo 👺

[wise frigate]

👺

[grim jay]

🥄

[gaunt moat]

@midnight latch WOW 😂

[vapid moth]

You walk into your house and see your roommate that is behind on her rent share doing a line of coke. What do you do?

[wise frigate]

Okay phone. That's not what I wanted.

Whatever.

[vapid moth]

Wrong kinda pussy?

[wise frigate]

It's 7 am and I don't care enough to fix that.

[vivid bone]

Nice one @midnight latch 🖐

[wise frigate]

Meant to be a gif reaction to Naya.

[vapid moth]

Oh lol

[wise frigate]

But phone cockblocked me.

[vapid moth]

I'm sitting here having missed the bus. Getting real fucking tired of my brother turning off my alarm for me then waking me up by flashing the light

[open reef]

hey guys - is there any race charts for classes ?

[vapid moth]

What do you mean

[pure jackal]

best dps racials

[open reef]

racials

[vapid moth]

Racials are unimportant but ok

For the most part

[midnight latch]

arcane torrent 10 energy bis

[grim jay]

You can start thinking about racials if you are playing perfectly fine

[tepid hornet]

Isnt it 15 energy

[vapid moth]

Oh yeah davyn cause that 5k extra dps is worth the race change

[viscid helm]

Its 15 you idiot @midnight latch

[dire spoke]

[insert it's something meme]

[vapid moth]

Calling someone an idiot for some miniscule misinformation

[dire spoke]

@midnight latch are you even playing the game?

[viscid helm]

Hes not even on

[grim jay]

@midnight latch seems like you arent top3

@vapid moth bcs its really expensive, ye

[dire spoke]

I like my troll haste

[viscid helm]

Its gold

What else are u gonna do with it

Literally cant get rid of it

[vapid moth]

Not spend it on a 5k dps change

That's what I will do with it

[grim jay]

Its like 2 hours of getting gold

😂

[viscid helm]

Tfw argus mythic sells for +20M

🤷

[dire spoke]

TCG mounts 👺

[grim jay]

M+ boosts

[humble crane]

even heroic PL clears are expensive

[grim jay]

The Token is at like 270k on my Server iirc

M+15 =350k

Sometimes less depending on affixes

[viscid helm]

Yeh idk gold has become so irrelevant after CM's were added

[prime void]

Gold=OW loot boxes. Lmfao

[grim jay]

Or hots heroes 🤔

🥄

[midnight latch]

well i thought we established that i suck at this game so chillax with the 15 energy

[grim jay]

Sucking =/= being stupid

Spoonhead

[midnight latch]

those arent mutual exclusive btw

<<<<living proof

[shrewd night]

hots heroes

what century is this

hots is a dead game

[grim jay]

Still better than league

[shrewd night]

even hearthstone is more alive than hots

[grim jay]

Hearthstone only still exists bcs you can play it on your mobile

[dire spoke]

I only play hots vor Valeera 🍑

[shrewd night]

Id play hs on my cellphone, but batterylife is a real thing

Id play hs on my pad too, but 1st generation ipad

[prime void]

1st gen. Shits ancient

[grim jay]

Get a new battery 🤔

Or a second one

😁

[jovial kite]

i would've killed argus week ago but team plays on soviet block era computers

[prime void]

2nd battery is life

😂

[dire spoke]

get powerbank

[grim jay]

Power Bank basically is a second battery