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gilded lark
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And my processor is 6 years old, i assume this only affects newer ones?

calm grail
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No.

gilded lark
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Oh

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Rip

calm grail
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It effects processors all the way back to like 94.

gilded lark
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Time to buy a new pc

calm grail
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It was an architecture flaw.

gilded lark
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Ahh

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Well I'm building a new rig after the summer next year so idc either way

calm grail
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This is what happens when the CIA and NSA๐Ÿ˜Ž get to help you make your processors

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You get all these wacky bugs you find 20 years later

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Just think about how many countries had that super wacky security flaw.

gilded lark
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Wacky yo

tidal meadow
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How do I get my pawn string from raid bots?

gilded lark
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Stat weights sim?

tidal meadow
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I see it

calm grail
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Go to stat weights. Run your SimC string from in-game. Once that you report generates, there will be a button that can copy them to the clipboard.

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Do you have the add-on?

tidal meadow
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Sorry that was right in front of me

gilded lark
tidal meadow
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๐Ÿ˜ญ ๐Ÿ˜ญ ๐Ÿ˜ญ ๐Ÿ’ฉ

shrewd oriole
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ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

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Had a 2.2 aggra pull

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but we wiped

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fml

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TRIGGERD

zealous dew
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blame the healer

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or the tank

shrewd oriole
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HUNTER actuall

onyx falcon
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M/H/N/LFR?

strange python
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xD

shrewd oriole
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M

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it was easily top 10, he was at 7%, I was at 2.2 with vendetta

tidal meadow
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Anyone having issues with tricks?

shrewd oriole
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got some insaneeeeee PB procs

naive sphinx
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still have 570

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dont look at me

limber dagger
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Guys does the gnawed thumb ring work on rogue?

zealous dew
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did they nerf fire mage ?

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yeah gnawed works

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no more big ignites

rotund pier
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@tidal meadow I've had issues with Tricks on and off all week

zealous dew
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ihih

rotund pier
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Sometimes it works fine, other times it's blacked out and unuseable

tidal meadow
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@rotund pier thank God

rotund pier
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It's common from what I researched

tidal meadow
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Yes I'm having the same problem

rotund pier
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just shitty that it's happening again on a skittish week

zealous dew
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trick the healer, open with glaives, profit

tidal meadow
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Exactly

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I wish they would fix it

spice surge
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@zealous dew People saying gnawed doesnt work anymore (on physical that is)

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Still amplifies magic though, as the tooltip suggests

vapid moth
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Why would it even be expected to work on physical?

shrewd oriole
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used to

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this fight is aids

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oh I messed up the screenie

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sometimes i have 2.6M intermissions

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sometimes I have 2.1

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zzzz

still rover
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Haven't played outlaw in like 2 months how's it performing now?

jovial kite
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1% wipe

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120m

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huutista

zealous dew
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yeah and how much phys dmg you do ?

shrewd night
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Ayyyy @gray mulch

tacit ferry
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i had a problem with tricks, it might have been neural silencer if you have one on? or it could just be a shitty recurring, random bug

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would be pretty par for the course

zealous dew
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no 985 no socket

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nice chaos crystal

shrewd oriole
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the heck

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disgusting ring

shrewd night
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shuddup shantal, you affli traitor

zealous dew
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not even good for aoe lock

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st yes though

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meh i need more mastery

lone junco
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@tacit ferry tricks macro is bugged.

gaunt moat
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We don't have tacos here ๐Ÿ˜ข

onyx falcon
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๐ŸŒฎ

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also how is tricks macro bugged?

lone junco
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You prob don't keep kosher?

onyx falcon
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how can it be bugged o.o

tacit ferry
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I dont use a tricks macro and it wasnt working for me earlier this week

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at all

zealous dew
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oh shiit mantle sims higher again

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f0k sake

tacit ferry
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well it would work once

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then i'd have to relog

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to get it to work agian

lone junco
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Any @ Macro I have tried will cause it to just stop working.

tacit ferry
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yeah i dont use those

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for tricks

lone junco
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I started Targeting focus then hard casting.

tacit ferry
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it was just completely greyed out

lone junco
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Ye.

onyx falcon
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ill give it a try when i get home, mine just target (tank name) cast, target last

lone junco
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Just cast out of your spell book.

onyx falcon
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open it every time? XD

zealous dew
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.#showtooltip Tricks of the Trade
/cast [@focus][]Tricks of the Trade

strange python
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i havent had a problem with tricks at all

zealous dew
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works 100% for me

lone junco
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Yeah. I had that at focus. Broke all the time.

strange python
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both focus and [target=playername] works for me

shrewd night
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Focus doesnt work for me

granite sapphire
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I always use a hover macro
#showtooltip Tricks of the Trade
/cast [@wicked quarryuseover,help,exists,nodead][@target, help][@player] Tricks of the Trade

lone junco
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Used the same macro for almost 2 years.

strange python
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mouseover tricks ๐Ÿค”

lone junco
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Then it started grey out.

zealous dew
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why mousover ?

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you trick the tank

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not a random scrub

strange python
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yep

zealous dew
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just focus the tank

strange python
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just put tank on focus

granite sapphire
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What if I wanna trick a 2nd tank in raid

strange python
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tricks in raids lol

granite sapphire
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Or I wanna tricks someone else on skittish while they're kiting

lone junco
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I set focus on my tank.

granite sapphire
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I don't see why you wouldn't

lone junco
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Ya. No mouseover for me.

onyx falcon
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yea same for me

granite sapphire
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it takes 0 effort and allows you to use your brain to play better sometimes

onyx falcon
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i put the tanks name into my macro

strange python
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I have specific macros for both of our tanks

shrewd night
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๐Ÿค”

civic palm
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I use a focus/targetoftarget/target macro for Tricks > _>

zealous dew
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tanks ๐Ÿ˜„

strange python
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3 macros total

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shift 2, shift 3, shift 4

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easy

onyx falcon
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1 macro, just set the tanks name, done

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realistcally in raid you never have to MD the tank, i just do it on pull

strange python
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i only tricks in raid for lolz

civic palm
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very good for adds on certain fights

granite sapphire
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I'm doing Mythic Aggramar right now and I MD one of our Balance Druid in bear form on intermission phase while the tank does grips on adds

civic palm
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Don't rely on shitty hunters.

granite sapphire
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I think many times in raids it's useful to help tanks get adds quick and also not get yourself killed because you're running ahead of the pack to keep doing damage faster

onyx falcon
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nah M+ this week you need tricks so much

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skittish

civic palm
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That's also a thing, tricks makes sure you don't get fucking smashed.

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Probably more important... but yeah.

strange python
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true

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might have to start using it for stuff like kinga adds that doesnt die

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what gear setup do you play on kingaroth mythic?

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shoulder/wrist

granite sapphire
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shoulder wrist is BiS, if you have decent ilvl cof with triple MA you use it

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If you don't have triple MA then just skip cof and hold Vendetta

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boots is a waste of life

civic palm
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Shoulder burst on adds is joyous.

zealous dew
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shoulder boots

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for KG m

strange python
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yeah i was considering that too @zealous dew

shrewd oriole
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I prefer boots

civic palm
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What do boots bring Ven. down to again?

shrewd oriole
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but bracers have more high roll potential

granite sapphire
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i got rank 1 mythic during progression

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on kin g

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don't use boots

jovial kite
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finally down

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fuck this expac

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cya bfa

strange python
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gz fam

shrewd oriole
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"wrists have more high roll potential"

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"i got rank 1"

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ok lol

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poison bomb during execute ๐Ÿ‘

civic palm
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So just normal Rank 1 stuff then?

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๐Ÿ‘

gaunt moat
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grats

jovial kite
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ty team

onyx falcon
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gz

civic palm
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We need a highfive emote, hmmm

onyx falcon
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we got dpspaghetti good enough

civic palm
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l o l

onyx falcon
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looking at our emotes, almost all of them are pirate ones o.o

strange python
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don wtf is this emote

onyx falcon
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is the jose emote

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XD

shrewd oriole
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yeh but everyone knows bracers get more rank ones

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it's really stupid to use rank ones as a guidance to what leggos to use

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because bracers have such high roll potential

dire spoke
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๐Ÿ‘€

granite sapphire
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im mid pull i'll tell you why boots is trash

shrewd oriole
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they're not but w/e

civic palm
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"trash"

shrewd night
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Nice chaos crystal amirite

strange python
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any tips on how to do add dmg on vari m

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or do i just ignore add

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thx for input only got cof on 910 with 1 MA so option for that gonna stick with wrists and pray to rngesus

civic palm
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Add probably dies hella fast.

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If your ranged is good.

strange python
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we're 4 rogues though

civic palm
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_>

strange python
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no ranges to count on...

shrewd oriole
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assa shouldnt really be carrying adds

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if your adds arent dying

strange python
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they only brought in 2 due to adds tho

shrewd oriole
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go sub

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MFD

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and pool 6 cps

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dance 6cp evis mfd 6 cp evis

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you'll top add damage

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but your overall dps will be like 1.5

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lol

strange python
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hahaha

civic palm
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Alright so for Vari-M you go SIN Anticipation.

granite sapphire
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So the reason Boots are bad is because afaik practically everyone does the 2dps on 3rd add strat

civic palm
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and you meme the adds to death.

granite sapphire
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So either you're the one there with leeching or somewhere else

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once the two adds die you go to the third add

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And it'll be in execute

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And it also needs to die

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It's priority damage

viscid helm
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you bench rogue

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is what you do

granite sapphire
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Boss damage matteres very little outside of execute on that fight

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It's all about getting the adds down properly

strange python
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yeah i kinda got benched aswell

civic palm
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Bring more PistolBois.

granite sapphire
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I re-log to my prot paladin alt to tank varimathras

strange python
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4 rogues aka gonna be benched for all of vari & coven progress

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fbm

onyx falcon
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im so bad at coven its not even funny =.=

civic palm
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Just level a warlock real fast :3

granite sapphire
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sin is like best melee for coven

shrewd oriole
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2 things

jovial kite
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sin is really strong for coven

dire spoke
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I had a nap

shrewd oriole
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  1. in my raid we have 3 locks go on the add and it dies before I even hit it
dire spoke
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What did I miss

shrewd oriole
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AFAIK a lot of guilds are doing this

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  1. half the execute phase is lost to adds
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so wrists arent great

strange python
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are we talking vari or kinga now

shrewd oriole
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kinga

dire spoke
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lol

strange python
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also im gonna call you guys out for this if i get benchd

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๐Ÿ˜„

dire spoke
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There was a sub rog here 12h ago, telling every1 you run bracers on KG. I told him No, boots are helping the raid more but he kept arguing

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:(

strange python
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vanish-rupture if the target is below 30% with wrists or still use vanish-envenom?

shrewd oriole
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wrists arent bad on KG

civic palm
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ENV if you are also using shoulders.

dire spoke
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You always env with mantle

shrewd oriole
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wtf

jovial kite
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p4 damage on kill pull at argus

strange python
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yep with shoulders, thanks

civic palm
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ezpzPB

jovial kite
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nice class blizz

onyx falcon
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think wrists arnt bad in the sense that the adds will go down quick once you hit execute

strange python
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LOL

onyx falcon
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but still not the best

shrewd oriole
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LUL

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Thing is

jovial kite
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prolly wouldnt've died without those procs

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we had only tank alive on kill

shrewd oriole
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literally HALF the execute phase

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is lost to adds

strange python
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i think that the execute on adds makes up for it tbh

shrewd oriole
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the like 2 seconds of execute

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omegalul

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joking

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it's close yeah

civic palm
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That's 66% of PB ๐Ÿ˜›

shrewd oriole
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Did you get a rank @jovial kite kek

strange python
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link logs !!

jovial kite
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dont care about ranks

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our progress for the last boss was utter shit

onyx falcon
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TBH raid thinking should be: Get the kill, who cares about parses. For 1st kill anyways

strange python
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ofc

onyx falcon
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but obviously some people dont think like that

brisk forge
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Why going for parse on first kill? xD

shrewd oriole
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you dont go for parses

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but if you parse, you parse

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lol

strange python
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my first kinga kill i had 9% parse

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second kill i had 89%

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dank

gilded lark
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First kill you died?

shrewd oriole
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what world rank is that tho master

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85?

jovial kite
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83

strange python
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i dont think i died no

jovial kite
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if you exclude 2x scrubbusters

shrewd oriole
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ah yeah

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fair

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gratz my dude

jovial kite
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84 on wowprog

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ty

strange python
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sick stuff

jovial kite
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we were on track for better than 70

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but ppl started ๐Ÿ on argus progress

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glad we killed it

shrewd oriole
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oh you're in that finnish guild

jovial kite
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yeah

strange python
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get stalked son

jovial kite
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๐Ÿคท๐Ÿฟ

shrewd oriole
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I mean

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he said his world rank ahaha I just went check what guild it was

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since we're on the big man himself as well I like seeing how long guilds take on it aha

strange python
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how long does argus progress take usually?

flint fable
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2-4 years

jovial kite
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we skipped 3 raiddays last week and we didnt raid during christmas and new years

shrewd oriole
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feels bad on that aggra kill tho, you lost so many world ranks

jovial kite
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still we could've done better than 70

dire spoke
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โœ‹ thaaat long โœ‹

jovial kite
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yep

shrewd oriole
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I assume that was due to stopping for xmas

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lots of guild didnt stop

jovial kite
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that and ๐Ÿ

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last 2 bosses which required the most were worst for us performance wise

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nothing you can do when theres nothing you can do

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xmas new years and blizzard retard patch all combined contributed for the drop

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glad its over now though

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can concentrate on something else... like memes and tb

zealous dew
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dat tb

shrewd oriole
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feels bad, progression around christmas time always sucks

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gratz nonetheless

dire spoke
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had a Laptop for raid while christmas Dinner cba

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kappa

calm grail
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Plebs. Skip all family commitments and holidays for the sake of progress.

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Because when you look back at it, what do you want to remember, good times with your family? Or your video game feats.

plain thistle
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video games ofc, is that a real question?

shrewd oriole
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I mean

plain thistle
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๐Ÿค”

shrewd oriole
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I hate my family

jovial kite
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@warm parcel you stole our shaman ๐Ÿ˜ 

tacit ferry
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your cousin will always be there, raid tiers are only there for a few months

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;o o; ;o

shrewd oriole
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my grandmother is pedophile and everyone acts like it's ok

warm parcel
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๐Ÿ‘บ

calm grail
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๐Ÿค”

shrewd oriole
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ecks

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dee

calm grail
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Boy that got dark.

jovial kite
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but hes good

plain thistle
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yeah, that escalated quickly

shrewd oriole
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nothing like dark humor

calm grail
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I work 60 hours a week, I don't think I would ever be able to go too hardcore.

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Maybe a top 100 Guild someday... Someday...

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I wouldn't have the time to join a soul-sucking guild like those ones in the beginning of the expansion where people had to farm m+ endlessly.

onyx falcon
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nah join method

calm grail
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I feel like all I do in Americuhhh is work.

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60 hours a week, only take about 12 vacation days a year

void pecan
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America the great.

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Work until you die.

calm grail
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๐Ÿ‘Œ

gaunt moat
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i need a guild for next expansion :x

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kinda boring being guildless

wise frigate
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I need a will to live for the next expansion.

dire spoke
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same

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both

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haHAA

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@shrewd oriole can I join u

vapid moth
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At least you have a grandma

zealous dew
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60 hours a week

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w0w

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are you a lawyer ?

shrewd oriole
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@dire spoke idk

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are you shit?

dire spoke
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Just as you ๐Ÿ‘บ

shrewd oriole
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wow

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are you 970

dire spoke
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LUL

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no connection remember

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๐Ÿ˜‰

jovial kite
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@gaunt moat learn finnish

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and have an extensive protection for ๐Ÿ

gaunt moat
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I heard finnish is pretty easy to learn

shrewd oriole
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easy decline

heavy plover
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Hey lads, anyone got that graph of average essence obtained per week?

humble crane
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Lawyers work more than that zantal haven't you seen suits mate!

shrewd oriole
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60 hours a week feels bad man

shrewd oriole
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I mean it's not uncommon to clock 60 hours a week as a lawyer

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source: I've interned at law firms

humble crane
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Depends how much you like your job tbh

shrewd oriole
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most of them work A LOT of overtime

heavy plover
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@zealous dew you da man

zealous dew
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suits is awesome!

dire spoke
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Thing is, I don't know how good I could be cus I never tried / was surrounded by a real progress oriented env ... you have a different motivation cleaning toilets or working in Google labs right?

heavy plover
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i'm glad you can actually talk in this chat, i got perma banned in the warrior discord for talking about pvp in fury

humble crane
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Doesn't matter where you work bro. You always deal with people's shit ๐Ÿ˜‚

shrewd oriole
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+1

keen inlet
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@heavy plover all u gotta do here is be respectful tbh

dire spoke
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I was actually talking about raiding haba

keen inlet
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We're very lenient otherwise

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Despite how some may feel...

humble crane
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Same goes for raiding haha

dire spoke
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๐Ÿ˜‚

heavy plover
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@keen inlet I always am don't worry mate, the guy who banned me just didn't really like me cause i was talking off topic

shrewd night
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Lenient

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hehehehehehehehehehe

keen inlet
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If you think we're nazi mods you don't spends much time on other class discos

humble crane
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Idk don. Broadsides gets away with murder in here lol

dire spoke
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I will never have logs to Join a better guild ๐Ÿคท cus my parses always bei shite with my currently one

keen inlet
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He is frequently punished for it

supple hearth
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@humble crane does he tho

keen inlet
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Lol

wise frigate
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Broad gets muted every day it feels like.

humble crane
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Ah ๐Ÿ˜‚

keen inlet
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Broad is also frequently helpful

wise frigate
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Pretty sure Notter and Giggle just have keyboard macros to type it out for them.

keen inlet
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Lol

humble crane
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He is if you get to know his sense of humour

wise frigate
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He's a toxic cunt, but a decent cunt.

shrewd oriole
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Zempai

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a good guild will not only looks at logs

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a good app goes a LONG way

shrewd night
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Dont ask stupid questions that are pinned and you are more than likely getting helpful shit here ๐Ÿคท

shrewd oriole
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legit knowing how to write an app is such an important skill

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everytime I look at a bad app I feel like insta declining

keen inlet
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Haha

shrewd oriole
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if u cant put effort into applying

shrewd night
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I got into my current guild from my logs alone, no app needed feelsgoodman

jovial kite
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hmmmmm

shrewd oriole
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how can u put effort into everything else

jovial kite
dire spoke
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ye

jovial kite
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blizz listened to me

keen inlet
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I feel like apps are just a hoop to jump through

dire spoke
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I hear you. I'd love to try cutting edge

keen inlet
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Like aside from baseline they don't tell you much

dire spoke
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If I suck, I will know pretty quick

keen inlet
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And logs can be so misleading

dire spoke
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LUL

keen inlet
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Trials are the key

humble crane
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Talking to a dude or dudette and then trailing them. You can be the best player in the world. But if you are a cockhead that won't fit the guild you apply for that's that

zealous dew
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dudette ๐Ÿ˜„

jovial kite
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why would you ever join a guild without cockheads

wise frigate
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Everyone's a dude.

jovial kite
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like
<Fluff Bunnies :3>

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STOP CURSING

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NO CURSING HERE

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??

wise frigate
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Maybe I only like to raid with women @jovial kite

dire spoke
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sudden tourette

jovial kite
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O.O

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next level

viscid helm
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man if only trials existed

keen inlet
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Idk why good players feel the need to be pricks

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Tbh

jovial kite
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its the game

keen inlet
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There's no reason for it

jovial kite
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you get transformed more and more to a full body dick

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there is

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the reason is the average player is bad

humble crane
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More girls in a guild usually leads to them being bitches to each other. More trouble than its worth tbh

keen inlet
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Does nothing, accomplished nothing, makes everybody unhappy

jovial kite
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and you like to see things done correctly

wise frigate
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"I'm better than you, therefore I get to talk down to you"

jovial kite
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thats what i've seen atleat

wise frigate
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Typical cunt logic.

dire spoke
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๐Ÿ™ Word

keen inlet
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And it's a game. I'm two years nobody will give a shit you were top 100

jovial kite
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yeah idd

onyx falcon
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its like Jose, he gets his own emote don so hes better than all of us ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

jovial kite
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i mean

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i see raiding the same as any team activity

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hockey etc

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if you perform above your peers you are more likely to be a dick or leave said team

wise frigate
#

There's no hope for that, scath.

keen inlet
#

Like I've been playing since vanilla, I remember watching the races, but i can't remember who actually won them. "Probably method lol". And i couldn't even name players from the raids at that point

#

It just doesn't matter. Have fun, be kind, life is short and the memory of vidya game pros even shorter

jovial kite
#

people play for different reasons

#

some play for fun

#

some play for progress

#

some play for battlepets

#

if you want to progress you probably want to get things done

humble crane
#

Garaunteed none play to be treated like ahit

#

Shit*

onyx falcon
#

well Jose, being realistic, people like You/Bunny/etc are the people that are helping pplz, newbies, etc, so at least not everyone is a d!ck once they get better n shtuff

jovial kite
#

i mean.. if you cant take banter in internet

#

im sad for you

gaunt moat
#

@jovial kite I left my guild cause i sensed i started to be too snarky to people.
i agree it's the game.. to some degree.
wiping 50 times to a boss you can do blindfolded, and be held by a few people would annoy anyone.

but i think jose is talking about people who are just elitist, and i know quite a few of those.

keen inlet
#

@onyx falcon btw i happened to log in to see that original artwork, and thought it was hysterical, but i had nothing to do with making it an emoji

gaunt moat
#

also, people use "banter" as a word to disguise just being an asshole sometimes.

jovial kite
#

oh definitely

#

its also a symptom of elitist raiders ๐Ÿ˜„

onyx falcon
#

LOL who made it Jose?

humble crane
#

I'm ex military. Got a thick skin. But I've found people in wow have varying degrees of sensitivity and I'm always learning something new about that. Was the same when I left and went back to uni

keen inlet
#

Idk tbh. I don't know when or why

#

But I'm flattered

shrewd night
#

I think the only time Ive been close to flipping a lid at someone was when someone unironically argued they needed to relearn tactics and mechanics because of the heighdifference between characters after racechange.

zealous dew
#

navy seals ?

keen inlet
#

@shrewd night what the actual fuck haha

humble crane
#

Pft no Shanta lol

onyx falcon
#

only time i flip out is when people are being ridiculously stupid and saying that the right way to do mechs is the wrong way =.=

shrewd night
#

@keen inlet no joke. They couldnt dodge mechanics for shit, and blamed that they were much shorted now, since they went from troll to goblin.

gaunt moat
#

The last time i flipped at someone, was when he argued with me about "Stacking up".
we did the imp boss in CoS
i asked to stack up infront of boss.
he on the side/behind.

i confronted him about it, and he said it's close enough.
and i noticed that in raids he also never stacks up properly.

i still don't understand why would anyone argue against stacking up meaning to stand on top of eachother.

rotund grove
#

I mean im just going to state the obvious here. If you are an asshole/don't mind being around assholes join a guild with people like that. If you want to be around stable people who don't yell/scream join a guild like that. Etc just join a guild where people match your personaility/a personaility type that you can stand.

jovial kite
#

@gaunt moat ??

viscid helm
#

i blame the guild

#

๐Ÿคท

onyx falcon
#

yea, i feel you bunny =.=

jovial kite
#

flowi say hi to noji from me :3

viscid helm
#

i dont know who that is

jovial kite
#

your new trial

onyx falcon
#

specially when i run CoS on high keys and the range is out in the middle of butt fuck nowhere

jovial kite
#

that you stole from us

#

๐Ÿ‘บ

gaunt moat
#

he's also one of the reasons why i left my guild.
i couldn't bare raiding with somsone so bad. it annoyed me.

viscid helm
#

"farm" trial

#

you mean

jovial kite
#

๐Ÿคท๐Ÿฟ

viscid helm
#

nice maybe i can bench

#

what does this guy play

jovial kite
#

@gaunt moat imo telling things / getting angry at a guy like that is called for

#

probably dh

#

played sham and havoc and veng on our progress

#

also dk tank

quasi geode
#

does anyone know a rough estimate of the difference in dps between NS envenom and NS Rupture with shoulders?

gaunt moat
#

i didn't immidiatly get mad. i was calm. undtil he actually started arguing about it X_X

jovial kite
#

good player ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿฟ

onyx falcon
#

that guy would be benched immediately if he was arguing about that in my mind

viscid helm
#

hopefully

#

well see

jovial kite
#

last 4 paragraphs @viscid helm

#

yeah

gaunt moat
#

@onyx falcon yeah, well, instead, i got told off that i was over exeggurating, and that it doesn't matter.

#

then you see him spawning mines in wrong place on immonar...

heavy plover
#

Do any of you guys actually use the cape in m+ or is not worth it?

viscid helm
#

no

#

vendor it

onyx falcon
#

back is pretty much uselses

viscid helm
#

the 30 gold is more useful

#

than that thing

onyx falcon
#

@gaunt moat Sorry =[ people being shtters

dire spoke
#

Yeah I mean, I want to log on and see all of blizz's work to cutting edge. Shittalk between pulls. My guild is 6/11 now and there are ppl who Just haven't got the mindset putting effort to be prepared. I was starting the guilds discord, searches WeakAuras and shit. If you have ppl around you who Just don't Care that much you tend to lowerr your own effort. Like for me I See myself Not using feint sometimes bcus hey the Guy next to me ist Standing there with a debuff to wipe us all and Not moving

heavy plover
#

@viscid helm it's my only rogue leggo, everything else is prydaz/sephuz/kj ;_;

shrewd oriole
#

feels bad man

viscid helm
#

KJ and Prydaz still better

#

due to stats

shrewd oriole
#

my friend's guild

#

has been on kingaroth

#

for 3 weeks

#

LUL

brave pond
#

@dire spoke same

heavy plover
#

@viscid helm i know i'm using them that's why i asked about the cape

brave pond
#

we're 6/11 but have some potatoes in the guild that were just warm bodies but now somehow never disappeared

#

we're really chill but some people in the guild REALLY don't care

#

so because of that I tend to not care

dire spoke
#

I think it's what most semi-progressive guilds hold back ist the huge difference between players

celest marlin
#

relic guide?

shrewd night
#

Its almost as if there arent pins

civic palm
#

pins?

shrewd night
#

And you know this already Kiril

#

Youve asked before

brave pond
#

for sure. we have some players who did 98 percentile parses and don't stand in the bad... then we have others who run into mines on imonar bridge and kill themselves every pull

celest marlin
#

found it .. thanks all

#

chers

shrewd oriole
#

my mom is watching big bang theory

#

๐Ÿ˜ฆ

gaunt moat
#

@dire spoke at the start of this expansion, i was in a guild where we had about 5-6 good players.
but it's just impossible to carry so many other players.

#

so you either give up ambition, or you move up

dire spoke
#

yeah

gaunt moat
#

i wasn't as good player back then either.

brave pond
#

as an adult, its easy to give up ambition because those guilds tend to be way more lax and not as strict.

dire spoke
#

I gave in a little cus I like most the ppl

gaunt moat
#

i learned a lot since then, and playing with better players is what makes you improve

jovial kite
#

when i started raiding again in wod

#

i was in like wr 1500+

#

i wanted better and its been progressively going better

#

not in the same guild though

shrewd oriole
#

I mean yeah if you really wanna climb the ranks

#

you gotta change guilds

dire spoke
#

Raiding with better ppl ist what I need to find my Limits. It bugs me so much. We quit every Tier Standing right before the last boss

shrewd oriole
#

if you're the best player in your guild, change

#

keep changing until you're mid tier

crystal fox
#

^

gaunt moat
#

I just half regret leaving that guild now, so i got scrwed over by the guild i joined, and now i'm left empty handed.
but that's part of the risk you take.
at least it was a fun expirence for a short while.

jovial kite
#

i've had 3 guilds disband this expac

#

pretty fucking frustrating

#
  • the finnish scene isnt that big
#

and there arent that many good guilds

viscid helm
#

its to big

gaunt moat
#

i would go as far to say there are NO good finnish guilds

jovial kite
#

there are probably 1 or 2 finnish guilds i could join atm

gaunt moat
#

right flowi?

shrewd night
#

๐Ÿค”

viscid helm
#

right... there is just me

#

๐Ÿคท

shrewd night
#

What was the name of that finnish guild that raped everyone for years

gaunt moat
#

you can replace flowi, i heard he's quitting WoW

jovial kite
#

i've done 4 and 5 days a week

#

but in shit tier guilds

#

like whats the point in raiding 5 days a week if you get stomped by 3 days a week guilds

shrewd night
#

Paragon?

jovial kite
#

no

shrewd oriole
#

do you only raid finnish?

jovial kite
#

so far yeah @shrewd oriole

shrewd oriole
#

fair

#

I could never raid portuguese

#

I feel like portuguese people are all spastics

jovial kite
#

i mean im fluent in english :p

shrewd night
#

Are you?

#

๐Ÿค”

jovial kite
#

and i've thought of going to a maybe 4-5 days international guild

#

or finnish one

#

but there arent any thats good except memento

gaunt moat
#

@jovial kite if you're fluent in english as you say, record yourself saying this phrase quickly:

#

Peter Piper picked a peck of pickled peppers. A peck of pickled peppers Peter Piper picked. If Peter Piper picked a peck of pickled peppers, Where's the peck of pickled peppers Peter Piper picked

jovial kite
#

so im good with this guild so far

#

what is this

void pecan
#

I don't even think you could say that @gaunt moat

jovial kite
#

some sort of demon summoning ritual?

keen inlet
#

Hahahaha

void pecan
#

I can't even say that without sounding stupid

gaunt moat
#

I'm not the one who's saying i'm the bestest at english

jovial kite
#

i only said im fluent not a demontongue speaker

viscid helm
#

guess im not fluent in english

keen inlet
#

How many boards could the Mongols hoard if the Mongol hordes got bored of boards?

void pecan
#

Oh sorry.

gaunt moat
#

that one is easy jose

keen inlet
#

You're easy

#

Sorry that was tox

gaunt moat
humble crane
#

Your emoji and profile pic have eye patch on different eyes it's a ruse

jovial kite
#

i aint clicking that shit

shrewd notch
gaunt moat
#

@jovial kite prove yourself.

jovial kite
#

my voice is gone

#

from all the nerdscreaming

#

and screaming to teammates when they dont get ress from tree for ??? reasons

gaunt moat
#

@keen inlet i recorded it

shrewd oriole
#

legit

#

the best portuguese guild

#

is 8/11

#

portuguese people should stick to soccer

#

omegalul

jovial kite
#

rate my execute

shrewd oriole
#

ah no

#

there's a 10/11 PT guild

#

but it's a 5 day 10/11

#

LOL

#

rank 195

#

xd

jovial kite
#

nty

#

we did 3 days

void pecan
#

Raiding 5 days

#

Kms

jovial kite
#

and i felt we could've done better

shrewd oriole
#

raiding 5 days and being 195

#

mks

jovial kite
#

or should've done better

shrewd oriole
#

kms*

jovial kite
#

soaking more orbs than your 3rd tank

#

๐Ÿค”

plucky merlin
#

avg hit on your 3rd rogue 5.53

#

does he feint worse?

jovial kite
#

probably

plucky merlin
#

did your melee get cleaved?

#

how was your enh sham not dead taking 7

jovial kite
#

i noticed that our 3rd tank doesnt take soak during modules so i decided to do it

#

he did die a couple of times

plucky merlin
#

and youre the only one to cloak any lmao

jovial kite
#

i didnt cloak any

plucky merlin
#

i suppose cloak on cd from chains tho

jovial kite
#

yeah

plucky merlin
#

miss%

#

you did cloak one

jovial kite
#

i didnt cloak with the intent of soaking orbs*

plucky merlin
#

yee

jovial kite
#

just took one with chain cloak up

plucky merlin
#

when your GM mains arcane then gets butthurt when i ask how good he is with frost for argus zz

#

thinks 1 iceblock is good enough

#

kms

jovial kite
#

rip

#

we had 10 immunities for the fight

#

its nice that blizz strayed away from designing immune stack bosses

plucky merlin
#

lmao

#

they tried

jovial kite
#

and 0 warriors

#

so our execute were 3 rogues 2 wlocks and spriest

plucky merlin
#

we're going to only have 9 immune classes but thats including 2x rogue and 2x mage so we should be good

jovial kite
#

our warrior left to trial for scrubbusters mid progress

plucky merlin
#

rip

#

we had a warrior who had 5 100's week one but he was too mongo so had to boot

jovial kite
#

rank 1 mongo

#

10/10

plucky merlin
#

we tried to reclear m tos that week for tier, couldnt do avatar, let me find the logs to show why...

grim ember
#

what are bis legos for sin?

crystal fox
#

bracers>shoulders/boots

#

depending who you ask

plucky merlin
#

hover over our tanks

#

something stand out?

jovial kite
#

roflmao

#

worth getting rank 1s if you're a shit tier player holy shit

#

true dps whore right there

strange python
#

When do I press TB? ๐Ÿค”

plucky merlin
#

yup, I thought most of our raid was kinda shitlord-ey but he showed me theres much much worse

strange python
#

What are bis legos for assassination ๐Ÿค”

calm knot
#

check logs and you have an idea of it..

gilded lark
#

@strange python thinkW

strange python
#

Wheres all the people

#

Like.. the Good people

upbeat fiber
#

i have a raiding question. any rogues use death from above on kin'garoth?

#

i use is usually and teleport through the boss

primal sigil
#

So ive heard some rogues tell me they use FoK for the 5th cp if they are @4cp.. does this apply during mantle too ? if it is an actual thing..

strange python
#

@gaunt moat : ) Hello old friend

primal sigil
#

heard & have some ogues tell me **

gaunt moat
#

@strange python you're alive?

viscid helm
#

must be some dumb people

#

๐Ÿคท

strange python
#

I went to rehab

#

Deleted my blizzard account

primal sigil
#

@viscid helm so not viable then ๐Ÿ˜› .. cool got it

gaunt moat
#

so what brought you back

strange python
#

Wanted to chat to guildmembers and still in this discord so wanted to say Hi to you

#

When do I TB? ๐Ÿค”

#

Bis legos still pants and ring?

#

I think I just triggered his PTSD

gaunt moat
#

@jovial kite ddi you play ascension mode in STS yet?
it's way harder :X

strange python
#

People spammed you with those questions right? ๐Ÿค”

narrow comet
#

notter

#

fix me!

gaunt moat
#

well the "WHEN TB" meta is over

strange python
#

Rly? Shame

jovial kite
#

@gaunt moat yeah man

narrow comet
#

get rid of this @vestal wren color!

jovial kite
#

currently running ascension 6

gaunt moat
#

wot.

#

i still couldn't pass 1

jovial kite
#

you said you wanted the game to be harder :p

narrow comet
#

ahh daddy is home

strange python
#

๐Ÿค” nub

#

Wtf is this green shit

gaunt moat
#

i get all the shit relics ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

jovial kite
#

idk i like ironclad better for ascension

#

even though i like silent more as a class

strange python
#

Did you add another rank?

jovial kite
#

feels like clad is easier to get rolling

#

and not that dependant on rng / relics / cards you get

#

in earlygame especially

gaunt moat
#

@strange python green is for poison, red for bleed

indigo crown
#

Hi, is the 2p from ToS worth it with Antorus 4p ?

strange python
#

Wait...

#

Itโ€™s real?

#

Thereโ€™s a bleef build?

#

Bleed

#

.. What the fuck happend in those 11 weeks

dire spoke
#

I'm on sin now

#

cus fok antorus

strange python
#

Iโ€™m simming for 1.5m 88 days ago last updated ๐Ÿค”

#

Idk whats normal anymore

dire spoke
#

2m

strange python
#

Are rogues on top?

dire spoke
#

sin is

strange python
#

Bleed or poison

#

Guessing poison

radiant flame
strange python
#

Cause youโ€™re green

jovial kite
#

im going 100% exsang for farm

#

now that the cuckmaker is finally down

strange python
#

IS THAT NOOBE?

lone junco
#

@primal sigil fok at >=4 is still in the APL if you have 5 6 7 pk. and >=3 if using DS. It is not ideal to have PK relics, but if you do, its fine for that cp.

jovial kite
#

master of shadows ma

lone junco
#

3rupture 3vendetta was good. 3Bb 3vend as well.

strange python
#

Sim It

jovial kite
#

i now got 3 exsang elics

#

we take a week break and then start farm

#

ill run full exsang

lone junco
#

@jovial kite i have been fishing botas in bracer for that vanish, and holy shit i enjoy it.

#

gimme that 9sec with conc and dogsx2

#

a fat 30M rupture.

#

๐Ÿ‘Œ

strange python
#

i enjoy stormsinger proc fishing xD

jovial kite
#

feelsamazingman

lone junco
#

and fuck bomb. bota is 100%

civic palm
#

This is why I am excite for BFA.

#

Can ditch bomb entirely.

lone junco
#

Btw, I have been thinking. 1 2 3 4 cp fishing in bracer and them env duirng bota prob not that bad.

#

i had one fight with 75% bota uptime.

#

either way the 50sec peaks make me 1/2 staff.

dire spoke
#

@strange python where have you been โ™ฟ

scenic prism
#

sup guys, i'm a fellow warlock and planning on boosting a rogue to lvl 100. i got 2 legendary tokens already. are there any guides for a newcomer?

dire spoke
scenic prism
#

a friend of mine plays rogue in raid but our raidlead told me he is shit so i cant ask him

#

what is a pin

dire spoke
#

The Icon to your top right

zealous dew
#

well

#

if you come from lock and play rogue

#

you hate yourself

scenic prism
#

i always wanted to try out a melee, i like the ghost modus

#

stealthing like a ninja

lone junco
scenic prism
#

@dire spoke only thing thats top right is the cross to close discord

lone junco
#

rogue is always good. solid choice.

strange python
jovial kite
#

wrists are usually too good to pass up on progres

lone junco
#

that guide is way too advanced for noob rog. check out icy veins until 110

scenic prism
#

thanks dude @lone junco

#

hm

#

coming from a caster i probably have to learn to not get cleaved XD

lone junco
#

@strange python should have that relative difference on. and dont flinch over 0.1%

dire spoke
#

@scenic prism I doubt that

radiant flame
#

@scenic prism you should play outlaw its cooler being a stealthed pirate and its also alot better in dps

lone junco
#

@scenic prism that is what evasion and cheat death are for

#

@jovial kite I swapped out my relics, but hung on to a pk to maintain 3Ma. Still in the game for bleed. just ignoring a 30k bump from MPTB Shoulder.

radiant flame
#

but outlaw is alot harder than assasination @scenic prism

lone junco
#

not at low level.

#

mark4death + blade flurry is really cool

scenic prism
#

ill probably go with the assassination then

zealous dew
#

EoA 25 let's do this boyzzzz

lone junco
#

lock?

zealous dew
#

nah

lone junco
#
  1. oy. I barely get into 15s
strange python
scenic prism
#

what is exsang

#

i keep seeing that in the guide

lone junco
#

it is a bleed haste. on 45sec cd.

shrewd oriole
#

FEELS

#

BAD

#

MAN

#

haste mastery

#

never good loot from cache

inner socket
#

im 949..would be 962 if i used my haste gear

lone junco
#

@strange python any fight with 2t wil benefit bracers. and any fight where your dps raiders die will benefit bracer. and the Top end of shoulder bracer is higher due to the shoulder rng in execute. if you have run weights for both set ups and boots are flat better, then fine.

prisma wind
#

hey all, in a M+ scenario where you're opening on 2 targets from stealth and TB/KB are up, what's your strategy?

#

apply everything at once in the crit window, get ruptures up first, envenom spam, etc

lone junco
#

can you carry in cps? and open Env mut env

#

w/e

lost mist
#

!relic

#

ยกrelic

lone junco
#

tb/kb in the first shoulder are really strong

lost mist
#

????

lone junco
#

!relics

chrome tuskBOT
lost mist
#

ty โค

prisma wind
#

I'm also running NS these days and trying to carry CP over yeah

#

I know, TB/KB hit like trucks, I sometimes have trouble deciding how quickly to set up bleeds in those scenarios

#

Oh, and we're still using FoK on 2 + targets correct

#

since the mut changes

dire spoke
#

@inner socket time for outlaw then ๐Ÿ˜

inner socket
#

75 on sub, just got it on sin. ill pass

strange python
sick cove
#

I don't know if anyone can help me but I had to reinstall windows and I lost my WA's. I have been looking and I can not seem to find the exact one I had. It was a HuD setup but below it would actually tell me while in combat when Rupture and Garrote were missing. anyone else using something like that ?

lone junco
#

@prisma wind I did a 2t sim, and mut was better.

#

but my crit was a bit higher. you can run it yourself.

dire spoke
#

Aren't all WAs like that? lol

lone junco
#

if you need help with that, let me know. @prisma wind

sick cove
#

Well it had it in text form

#

not just Icons

#

and when it was applied it gave me a channeling type of bar for the countdown

dire spoke
#

well idk but I'd investigate wago.io

sick cove
#

alrighty

#

thanks for listening tho lol

strange python
#

I know the feeling

#

trying to find lost weakauras

signal summit
#

How Much harder is actually pH 3 than 2 on aggra ?

#

Managed to get to ph3 in 30 pulls then tank dc.. is ph3 alot harder than ph2?

flint fable
#

as a rogue or for the entire raid?

signal summit
#

Entire raid

zealous dew
#

lulz Hov 26

#

RIP ?

dire spoke
#

โœ‹ fun โœ‹

#

go outlaw and bribe

#

LUL

wanton bough
#

The rest are malq/mass 930 reliqs

spice surge
crystal fox
#

world of roguecraft 1,2,3 and waiting for upper kara groups,what a lovely sunday night

zealous dew
#

kara ๐Ÿ˜„

strange python
#

Rehab

zealous dew
#

if you queue a key to kara, you see 2000 rogues

#

haha

strange python
#

@dire spoke

#

Is that the real Shantal?

#

When do I TB? โ™ฟ

zealous dew
#

never

#

use exsang

dire spoke
#

@strange python I see ๐Ÿ‘Œ nice to have you around again

zealous dew
#

new meta is alacrity

#

and dfa

strange python
#

and anti

crystal fox
#

vanish cheapshot is the new meta

strange python
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I had 80% haste already

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100% PB proc was my Discovery

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m+ opener

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๐Ÿ‘‹๐Ÿป

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subterfuge 3x cheapshot with prey on the weak

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next level

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yes

zealous dew
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vanish CS

crystal fox
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newmeta

zealous dew
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awesome

strange python
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does that shit track which ability u just cast?

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above your health bar

dire spoke
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TrufiGCD

strange python
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not a weakaura?

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If you vanish -> shadowstep -> distract on pull you have 100% chance to proc PB

crystal fox
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dont forget to throw in a PrayToRNGesus in there aswell

strange python
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Me and notter found that out

crystal fox
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(X) Doubt

strange python
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Iโ€™ve been gone for a while Idk if they patched It already

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Probably

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No really, ask @gaunt moat

gaunt moat
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No, what i discovered

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was that

strange python
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What you mean you

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๐Ÿค”

gaunt moat
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If you Shadowstep on cooldown, you have a 100% guranteed chance to have a 12.5% chance to proc PB with a 5 CP finisher.

strange python
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Remember that debate after ?

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Good shit

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๐Ÿฟ

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People didnt believe It untill they tried

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Being a Shadowblade really changed you tho

dire spoke
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that was Naya in the GIF btw

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๐Ÿ˜

strange python
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Naya!

crystal fox
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naya gets reminded atleast twice a day

dire spoke
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They try new Meta with anti

strange python
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Remember everyone being elitists and linking logs When they had a Good PB proc?

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: )

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Hi I just hit #1 on Goroth, Yes I had a 93% uptime on PB But itโ€™s all skill

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Cause I used shadowstep on CD

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#facts

radiant flame
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link or didnt happen

strange python
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Happend like 14 weeks ago

radiant flame
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o 14 weeks maybe it got deleted then

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jk link or didnt happen

strange python
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I Dont have a pc anymore

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I Actually saved those links on a notepad

radiant flame
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np just tell char name and realm bank id and pin

dire spoke
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are you a toaster rogue now

strange python
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My account is deleted

violet yew
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log would still be there ๐Ÿ™ƒ

radiant flame
wispy fossil
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vanish cs.. haha

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ok i have a questions

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does vendetta snapshot dmg?

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i dont think it does

violet yew
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no it just buffs damage whilst its on the target

wispy fossil
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ok ty

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so before shoulders and t20 was a thing, didnt we have an opener that was

wintry kayak
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Guys, On KB i need wait the evenon buff ?

wispy fossil
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garrote rupture mutliate til 5+ vanish rupture?

stone fractal
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Can you loot Amanthul / Pantheon trinkets drop from both heroic and normal on the same reset? Or is it one chance per difficulty

crystal fox
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one chance per week

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first kill of the week is your only chance

stone fractal
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Ok so no point killing Argus normal on top of heroic every week for the sake of trinkets then?

crystal fox
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nope

fluid owl
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Havw I missed a patch? Crown/boots with EP is simming as a far better for me than any other combo. It just feels weird in raid. It's even suggesting to prioritize crit over mastery and my mastery is dropping lower and lower. Poison build, 958 equipped.

crystal fox
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if you're other head is crap and other offpieces are good then it can suggest head yes

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and if your crit is low then it will tell you to get more crit

fluid owl
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Crown wasn't the main surprise, it was the sudden shift to EP over master poisoner. Crit is 35ish and I have Eye of Command, but my mastery is now down to 140ish

lone junco
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@fluid owl at my 40% crit ep is higher.

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With ep crit is higher

calm grail
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You SAID

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You were going poison.

lone junco
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It's not a bad place to be. But it won't but best in the end.

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I have both tags now.

calm grail
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Leave.

lone junco
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Never.

calm grail
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Poison or bust my dude.

lone junco
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Master mcsplooge is now full bleed.

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We blood bros.

naive cypress
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For bleed Crit>Vers>Mast?

plain thistle
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sim yourself ๐Ÿ˜„

naive cypress
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In general

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Lul

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I dont play bleed. I just wonder how the stat pris change in general

jovial kite
strange python
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is head even worth anything

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like the effect seems extremely terrible to me

humble crane
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๐Ÿ˜‚ broad that quick delete

strange python
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did your message just get deleted

worthy thistle
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LOL

strange python
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hahaha

gilded lark
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I had to

strange python
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didnt manage to read it ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

gilded lark
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Prying eyes and all

worthy thistle
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๐Ÿ‘Œ

strange python
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LOL

worthy thistle
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Stats tho, and effect is not super good but it works

strange python
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yeah but you're forced to wear tier hands then

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or shoulders lul

gilded lark
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It would likely work better with the anti build than anything

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Boots/head

strange python
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hmm

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lol tho

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gonna reduce cd of vendetta by 0.6 s

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the synergy

still ether
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is it good to stack master achemist relics ?

jovial kite
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yes