either way its pointless to argue. its a bad idea and Blizzard agrees its a bad idea
#transmog
wraith hollow
umbral jackal
they were recolors of the normal pvp set
wraith hollow
outdated glads? no
alpine lynx
you never needed rating (okay almost never) to get pvp pieces
wraith hollow
you can't buy the titles legally
naive nexus
no not title
alpine lynx
he means the mog probably
naive nexus
yea
alpine lynx
like normal arena pvp sets
naive nexus
yup
wraith hollow
because they weren't gated behind anything
umbral jackal
the normal ones yes but not the elite ones
wraith hollow
There are some elite sets you can't get anymore even if you had the rating for it because there are no vendors for them. If you didnt keep it in your bank when mog came out you didnt get the appearance. They only recently started bringing back tabards and enchants for those who had the rating at the time
which makes sense
but they wouldnt ever make it available to those who didnt earn it
when it was current
fair turret
Ya I doubt they will do that anytime soon. The reason I think it should stay gated is that the skill required for every class changes practically every season based on popular comps and class changes. So what if you get 2k this season on your rogue doesn’t mean you could’ve done it back then.
wraith hollow
same with the mop and wod challenge sets. they might make recolors of it like the rogue class set, but they wont ever re-release them
Again blizzard has already come out and said they won't rerelease them. CBA to go find the post I've post ed it here before
umbral jackal
everything in the game should be free to get at any given time
fair turret
Lmao troll
I’m okay with them not coming back. Good on blizzard for keeping it that way.
umbral jackal
remove mythic sets after raid is outdated
umbral jackal
whats the difference?
wraith hollow
They need to make a third recolor and give it to those who can do high level m+ in every dungeon
m+ elite set
fair turret
Man I hope something like that comes
wraith hollow
then discontinue it
fair turret
Challenge modes were the shit
umbral jackal
it is just dumb to remove rewards
fair turret
Ya your right. Everyone should be entitled to everything and get a special star just for showing up.
Hence the downfall of humanity
Just boss up and start working towards the 2k set from now on that way you won’t have regrets from a game.
You possibly have till this Tuesday or the following for this season if you don’t have it.
livid slate
it just sucks if you want multiple classes, yeah you can just work on it and get them but that's a lot of work
alpine lynx
i love the idea of a m+ mythic set and it probably has been mentioned numerous times
hopefully blizz will listen
livid slate
I don't think reaching 2k once is prestigious enough to lock a set forever
fair turret
@livid slate it is man. I’ve managed to obtain rogue, warrior, and shaman, but you have to think we had 3 seasons for these sets.
umbral jackal
i don't care about the current sets but i never had the chance to get past exp elite sets yet i can solo jump in the raids and get the mythic ones
fair turret
@umbral jackal have you ever hit 2k?
livid slate
yeah 3 seasons, but on top of all the other stuff in this game, raiding, mage towers it's hard to find any time
umbral jackal
yes
fair turret
@livid slate its a much smaller pool of people then all the other achievements we are talking about.
livid slate
I'd like to think that's just because the pvp population in general is smaller, not because reaching 2k is harder
fair turret
@umbral jackal were you playing the game during legion s3 and 4?
umbral jackal
yes but legion sets are just recolors
fair turret
@livid slate I think it’s smaller because it’s more difficult and harder to find partners.
@umbral jackal only original set was in mop
All of them were recolors
crude solar
Because a newbie will open up the lfg and see nothing but X+ xp required
livid slate
cata had unique pvp sets
wraith hollow
@fair turret ??? what do you mean original set was mop
fair turret
Find a friend and start from the bottom
wraith hollow
everything up to wod was original
fair turret
The other ones were recolors of the normal pvp sets weren’t they?
umbral jackal
wod s1 elite is different than normal
livid slate
well, yeah, every elite set ever has been a recolor of the normal pvp set
fair turret
Thats my point
livid slate
but only after WoD did those sets start becoming recolors of the pve sets
during Wod, rather
fair turret
Ya no arguments there that is the truth
wraith hollow
fingers crossed we get a different set every season that's unique from pve in BFA
fair turret
We have a chance!
wraith hollow
since every class is getting the same set no excuse not to have a different set every season
fair turret
I really hope they don’t drop the ball
wraith hollow
every armor type*
livid slate
I like the idea of an elite token you can use to buy old elite sets
umbral jackal
end of season rewards. give people a reason to play pvp
wraith hollow
bad idea
livid slate
so then a good idea would be to make each tier's mythic set unobtainable after a new one comes out unless you full cleared mythic on that specific class?
because that's the same kind of logic
umbral jackal
i as a mythic raider would find it ok
livid slate
and yet can you imagine the backlash and community outrage if they actually did that
umbral jackal
pvp player are not logical
fair turret
We have reasons to play pvp. They have whatever current mog is available, tabards, weapon enchants, titles, and mounts.
wraith hollow
@livid slate yes btw I would support that
although the m+ addition would be a better idea
fair turret
They had the challenge mode armor that was pve and removed from the game
wraith hollow
than changing how mythic works
fair turret
I would be okay with that as well.
umbral jackal
and that can nobody take from you but why should noone after the season end have a chance to get the elite set?
livid slate
give more transmog options not take more away
fair turret
They do
livid slate
you are still doing the content
fair turret
And the people who earned them have them and they are gone
umbral jackal
and when i have to become gladi, just give the chance to get elite of past seasons
livid slate
thereby taking away a huge amount of options
fair turret
It’s nice to have something someone else doesn’t.
livid slate
it's not like you are just giving any casual scrub the set
they still have to do the content
get 2k
why does it matter what season it was in
and it's not like they just get 2k once and they have access to every elite set ever created either
they have to keep reaching it to get more tokens to buy more sets
fair turret
alpine lynx
^
livid slate
except nobody remembers how hard a class was each season
nobody sees your set and thinks "oh wow they got that when x class was super hard"
they see it and think "oh they're decent at pvp on x class"
frail magnet
sounds like you are just salty you didnt get something when it was available and now you want it 🤷
fair turret
It’s okay for you to want what you want and a lot of people agree with you and disagree with you , but it doesn’t change the fact that the current stance from blizzard and the majority of people who pvp. We are happy with the way it is now.
livid slate
@frail magnet I've gotten every elite set on my main since legion s1
doesn't make it a good system
livid slate
I'd agree with you if they also made the mythic sets exclusive
but they aren't
so this shouldn't be either
fair turret
Your comment about people not knowing is just a wide generalization about the pvp community with no actual evidence of it being true.
livid slate
any monkey can do mage towers at this point
fair turret
I remember how badass rogues were in pvp back in cata. If I saw an elite set from then I wouldn’t think of it much.
frail magnet
I said challenge mode, not mage tower
umbral jackal
from full set to fancy weapons
fair turret
No one will ever agree with every aspect of something and I honestly feel blizzard does t owe us shit or should have to change anything based on our opinions. Do you remember playing Super Nintendo? Those days were great you didn’t hear about anyone’s entitled nonsense. Super Metroid was just fucking hard. All old games were and you played them beat them and held that in your heart.
If we didn’t like something we didn’t play it
livid slate
of course I like playing?
fair turret
If you don’t like the system of a game why play it?
umbral jackal
are you dense?
fair turret
I’m talking about entitlement and what we expect from the creators of games and why we can’t just enjoy what it is they make us.
frail magnet
If you don’t like the system of a game why play it?
YIKES
umbral jackal
where would humanity be if all they did was giving up when some things were not pleasant
fair turret
It’s not about giving up. Your fighting for something that isn’t yours and shouldn’t be.
alpine lynx
sorry to disrupt your discussion with some transmog, i am trying to make a half half transmog where the bottom part (belt, pants, boots) is of one set and the upper half is in contrast to the lower half, i would appreciate any help or suggestions to make the upper half more appealing while still in contrast with the lower half. lower half is set in stone for me. not looking for rating but constructive criticism
fair turret
@alpine lynx was just about to ask could you give us an example
umbral jackal
the right to vote for women were also not theirs in the past
you don't like it? enough countries left to go to
fair turret
Edit that please @umbral jackal
alpine lynx
also daggers are optional
fair turret
Can we get better pixels please.
Looks bad 😢
Not the mog just the quality
Actually @umbral jackal #off-topic
umbral jackal
i just want the chance to get wod s1 elite
alpine lynx
working on it
fair turret
@alpine lynx kk @umbral jackal it will most likely never happen. I would love a chance to get the black resonating crystal from original naxx and corrupted ashbringer, but that’s never going to happen either so I just smile every time I see it and work extra hard to not miss things that I want in the game right now.
alpine lynx
umbral jackal
sadly yes, blizz is too stubborn
fair turret
@alpine lynx I don’t think the belt and the daggers match. You already said you would be willing to change those though so start off with that. The eye patch doesn’t fit well with what you are trying to do. As far as the top and the bottom fulfilling your purpose I would say it is.
alpine lynx
2nd attempt, daggers are just placeholders, i didn't bother yet to search
livid slate
I don't understand the 2 halves thing you're going for at all
alpine lynx
i need to get these ideas out of my head to get back to work, 3rd attempt, this was my initial idea
alpine lynx
i was thinking about orc berserker style heavy lower armor and more lightweight upper body armor, maybe it works better with axes/swords/maces
livid slate
you look like a cyborg orc
summer arch
SAXTON HALE!!!
spice wadi
Blizz stop being cowards let us hide everything
ruby pewter
Doesn't the person in charge of transmog hate transmog?
Blizzard: Flower crowns are an event only item.
Also Blizzard: Wanna beat up monsters with a fucking fish?
umbral jackal
everyone at blizzard hates their job and themselfs
fair turret
I think the only person who hates them self is you @umbral jackal
umbral jackal
i love myself. my Doc says i am almost an narcisst
fair turret
💋
Lmao! I believe that
Nothing wrong with a little bit of confidence.
@ruby pewter I’ve heard that, but I haven’t seen actual statements just hearsay.
spice wadi
Also there's npcs with glasses, there's a white glasses item in the game files. Let us have glasses for tmog!
elfin igloo
alpine lynx
granny marl from blackrook has normal glasses, there is the not moggable cosmetic item monocle from skinning
fair turret
@fervent mulch
I know you don’t like those shoulders, but man I switch between those, the single shoulder and other stuff I find. I think it’s acceptable. The daggers kind of go with the daggers on the belt, but I guess I could be wrong about it.
arctic sable
https://render-eu.worldofwarcraft.com/character/azjolnerub/168/152399784-main.jpg this is not so creative, but it fits perfectly for me
fair turret
@arctic sable change the belt and the daggers. Maybe try the white version of that mask to see if it matches with the wraps on the arms.
@elfin igloo that mog has been done a whole lot. The best version and I think the first time I’ve seen it was done by @fervent mulch @arctic sable that set is used a lot as well, but it is what it is the pieces from that set are gorgeous why not use them.
umbral jackal
arctic sable
@fair turret id rather change the boots to match with belt, i really like that belt tbh 😄
arctic sable
what are those boots?
fair turret
Artful dodging
I have some better shots of this mog higher up in the channel if you search me in transmog
arctic sable
btw im using these dagger cuz when they're sheated it matches my belt well
cuz of those two red ribbons hanging from the dagger hilt 😛
balmy remnant
memepatches and tier pieces aside, any suggestions on swords?
terse field
There's no shortage of good red swords certainly, or swords with Mark of the Bleeding Hollow
trail flame
You have no idea how much I wanna mog those sunglasses that those mobs have behind that one barn in Westfall for a quest
scenic mirage
@balmy remnant could try the felsteel longblade with berserk enchant, might be a bit too bright but it could work
or a more lowkey enchant other than berserk if it's too flashy
subtle lodge
@fair turret are those the prestige swords? (New to rogue this xpac)
fair turret
The red ones are the legion dungeon achievement skin unlock with balance of power quest.
trail flame
Those are challenge outlaw
runic sparrow
Wrong person Dondo.
fair turret
@arctic sable what I was talking about highlighting the belt though was how my bracers and mask tie in with it.
north plover
I'm debating whether I wanna get the challenge
Skins for my rogue.
ember mason
No harm in trying
north plover
Personally how does everyone feel about the assassin one and outlaw? I'm more into wanting to get the hidden outlaw skin
runic sparrow
Sin is super easy. Outlaw is completely trivialized by gear.
runic sparrow
One of my favorite sword skins.
north plover
Ahh okay.
north plover
I'll work on getting them then. Will probably go after assasination first
wraith hollow
Assassination and outlaw are both neat. I would understand if you didn't want to go for the sub daggers. They aren't anything special imo.
marble leaf
the coolest sub ones are the second tier ones
cant remember
shadowblades?
rest are shite
tidal creek
The BoP/peeveepee skins for sub are my pref
wary owl
Lack of actual mogs here so lemme post this basic monk real quick
livid slate
Great full set. Nobody has ever thought to combine those shoulders and gloves with that set and the challenge fists ever before. Amazing contribution and idea
wary owl
That's why I included "basic" in there. And there should be mogs in this channel not walls of text
livid slate
Basic doesn’t have to mean blatantly bad
wary owl
Oh no you are that guy who thinks elite sets should be free for everyone 
naive nexus
gaunt jay
this channel is the table salt of ravenholdt
tidal creek
mog channel can be discussion and not just back to back pictures of fullsets though lmao
umbral jackal
can someone come up with a spiderman mog? I want pictures of spiderman
not mine but really good
terse field
Hah.
livid slate
@wary owl by "everyone" you mean anyone who has reached 2k being able to earn tokens by playing at that level and purchasing previous elite sets, right? because that's pretty far from wanting every mouth breathing idiot to be able to get it for free
terse field
@livid slate deep breaths
umbral jackal
and locking mythic sets behind the av would be oppressing
livid slate
@terse field I'm not mad, I'm explaining myself
wary owl
Id be ok with 1 elite set per season maybe. But it would still be unfair to the vets
livid slate
Just like how we can just go in and solo the previous expansions mythic raids and obtain those sets? Why isn't that unfair to the vets?
wraith hollow
M+ elite sets m+ elite sets m+ elite sets.
Am I the only one who likes that gear goes away after it's relevant?
scenic thicket
No it would be very nice for pve to get gear like that
livid slate
I would be fine with that, but they won't ever do that for mythic raid sets
either way, the two should be more consistent
scenic thicket
Seeing people in org with their raid sets in vanilla was always cool
livid slate
either make old elite sets obtainable in some fashion, or make new elite pve sets that are unobtainable
scenic thicket
Mythic raids probably not but you could tie a set to doing a +20 in time or something
scenic thicket
Lol
livid slate
I mean it's all relative
+30 could be scaled like a current 15
the specific number doesn't really matter
neat pilot
I guess I'll share my basic bitch transmog
trail flame
I personally think that it should be possible to get any elite set from any season if you get 2k in the current season, but maybe raise the price higher
like maybe to the price of the arsenals (80 marks)
north plover
Anyone like the sub challenge skin?
wraith hollow
Sub challenge skin is meh
Assassination got the good skins
@trail flame the argument is irrelevant since blizz has already stated their opinion on locked/discontinued sets. They might make a change moving forward for sets but you won't be able to get a set in the past that you didn't earn at the time.
trail flame
Still a stupid stance regardless
wraith hollow
Not really. Lots of people think both ways. I think it's stupid to bring the old sets back. I'd rather see blizz do what they did with t20/s3/4 and remake old sets
Rather than take a discontinued set that people had to earn and make it available to people who didn't even play at the time
trail flame
I think they should at least give them a chance at it
wraith hollow
The chance was when it was current lol
Like atm you have the chance to get mage tower skins
If you don't get them now then too bad you didn't earn it when it was available
trail flame
Yeah, but pve is vastly different from pvp
wraith hollow
The principle for the discontinued set is the same. You don't earn it when it's current then too bad so sad.
trail flame
It's bogus nonetheless imo
wraith hollow
🤷 makes content more meaningful for a lot of people. Less people would participate in current content if they could just go later and get it when it's easier for them to do it
trail flame
Unless you include an insane barrier for those who choose to do it later
Like perhaps maybe 2.2k and ~100 marks
Or perhaps you can only buy one legacy set per season
verbal trellis
People who put in work for mogs dont want it easily accessible, people who weren't around for those mogs wish they had it, and the other 98% of players who dont pvp dont care. It is what it is
trail flame
I'm not saying let these old set become easily accessible, I'm saying allow them to be bought for like 125 marks if you got 2.2k in the current season and you can only buy one legacy set per season
neat pilot
(That is easily accessible)
trail flame
How so?
neat pilot
Upping the marks costs means effectively nothing BTW
Especially if it has a rating requirement
trail flame
How hard is it to get 2.2k?
neat pilot
Fairly accessible for those that PvP.
Slowly upping the rating and marks required in your hypotheticals isn't likely to change many minds on this either btw.
Especially marks.
trail flame
Then what about the one legacy set per season thing?
neat pilot
Not changing many either.
trail flame
I have an idea
So let's say (hypothetically) that you could bring mogs from the Classic version of wow when it comes out to the live version
Would that be justifiable if you achieve the rating in the classic version of wow when it gets released and buy the set, allowing it to be on your account to xmog on the live version
trail flame
Well, I think taking myself out of the box, I notice a thing or two
People who complain about the old sets not being available are people who don't pvp usually and don't understand fully how the system works
People who defend the antiquity of the old sets are people who do pvp usually and understand the system
livid slate
It's been talked to death, nothing we say in this channel will affect it in anyway, just drop the topic honestly
neat pilot
I have precisely 0 elite pvp sets btw
trail flame
But I think from Blizzard's standpoint, if they want people to pvp, then they should allow them to be available, albeit, insanely hard to get.
I don't know what would consider it being insanely hard considering that I don't pvp usually (hence why I throw around ratings and mark costs as if I'm using big words to sound sophisticated), but maybe blizz could figure out a way to do so.
That might bring people into pvp while keeping most of the valor from the old sets
wraith hollow
It's fine to have different opinions. As Sasquatch said brainstorming ideas here isn't going to do anything. You aren't likely to change the mind of someone who already has an opinion and blizzard has already come out and stated theirs.
crude solar
if you can play at the level where the sets were released with the same abilities of that era with a pool of players with the same stuff, then sure
wraith hollow
Rather than look back at sets new ideas for the future are more likely to be accepted. I.e make elite set tokens like the mount where moving forward you can buy an appearance. Especially since we don't have class sets anymore
trail flame
The mount? Like the Vicious Saddle mounts?
trail flame
I'm lost
trail flame
Still imagining the amount of pre requisites that could possibly go on it
But, oh well, what can I do ¯_(ツ)_/¯
crude solar
hows this dagger model
alpine lynx
what do you mean with buy future appearances?
wraith hollow
Since all of the leather armor types share a set. They could potentially make a few different options then just give you a token when you hit 2k where you can buy them as you get 2k like they do currently for the vicious saddles.
I don't think it's likely for this expansion though. They'll keep it whatever they have planned currently. We won't see any major changes to how gear sets work for a while
and its just a thought anyways. I really dont mind how it is currently at all. I'm a little skeptical of all armor types sharing gear though unless they give us a different set every season.
alpine lynx
did you want different options available for all leather users to share f.e. or a token so you can buy a "rogue elite" set?
wraith hollow
It seems like they are set on armor types rather than class specific armor. So it would be leather wide
Like I said blizzard won't make anything available from the past
But that doesn't mean they can't change how going forward works
wraith hollow
IDK but those boots aren't working either
wraith hollow
Are you wanting to build around the legs/belt/chest?
wraith hollow
Boots are okay. Shoulders still don't match. The gold metal piece doesn't go with the iron metal color of the legs or the belt
tidal nest
hmm i feel like i might be out of options
neat pilot
There's a lot of good brown shoulder pieces
But is what you like the collar / smokiness of the shoulders?
tidal nest
the colllar and eyepatch is the base here
alpine lynx
@tidal nest this is my go to mix if i want some t21 action
tidal nest
and also that haircut
hmmm
yeah that theme is a bit different than what im goin for
what i need is big brown shoulderpads that also have metal on them
alpine lynx
try swift wind spaulders
alpine lynx
well then you are out of options and will have to hope for bfa
neat pilot
There's some that drop from Trial of the Crusader
(or Champion, I mean the raid. Can never remember which one).
Or possibly Sartharion.
tidal nest
lemme attempt a change of color scheme
neat pilot
http://www.wowhead.com/item=47221/shoulderpads-of-the-infamous-knave&bonus=4136 These don't look how I remember them too
alpine lynx
those shoulders still don't match the color theme and they are clipping
tidal nest
damn clipping
its hard to get giant shoulderpads on that transmog
without clipping the collar
radiant wadi
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/461139949899743246/465053241525141504/2018-07-07_10.13.56.jpg
what do u think? except that its a bad ang and pants and chest are hidden
rare shell
the fire from the shoulders is orange so it doesnt go with the red imo
radiant wadi
I just wanted to use these daggers cuz they are rare af
alpine lynx
you clearly have never been in the rogue class hall
wraith hollow
They aren't really rare. I use those with my sub daggers since they go nice with s3/4 elite
livid slate
It's mostly a full set but nothing looks better than this with those daggers imo
vivid canyon
nice
spice wadi
Not sold on the shoulders but yeah it matches really well!
livid slate
Yeah, I actually swap the shoulders a lot between those and the set shoulders myself
thorn verge
going for that classic ninja look 😃
livid slate
of course, the weapon of choice for ninjas worldwide is a popsicle
umbral jackal
to keep the cool in hot situations
thorn verge
right, its 95+ degrees here regularly 😛
umbral jackal
water boils at 100
summer arch
livid slate
Would look better with the hidden havoc appearance, or mage tower appearance for vengeance. And wtf is that belt
The little mustache peeking out from the headwrap looks pretty silly as well
summer arch
glaves dont work on dressing room same with fist weapons and i didn't care about the mustache (over all what do you think)
livid slate
Overall it's ok, but I think you need to change those things that I mentioned, especially the belt and mustache
the legs+boot combination is cool
wraith hollow
It's too bad the color of the boots don't match the legs though
pure sky
Thoughts, feedback? The gold of the gloves is a bit off but it somewhat matches the dagger hilts and the brown of the boots, but I can't color coordinate for shit.
spice wadi
The coolest part of that top is the sleeves so I'd personally go for something that doesn't cover them.
pure sky
Yeah, I was intentionally trying to mask them, but you're honestly right. They're such a unique detial.
scarlet wigeon
T21 basic bitch w/ bulky boots, relentless daggers & goggles because goblin helmets
grim lance
Bloodfang set + "The First Satyr's Spaulders"
gaunt jay
today has not been kind
wraith hollow
today has been a lot of 0/10s
cold loom
Indeed...
weary crypt
This is my worgen. Normally he is outlaw, was doing assassination last night in PvP with a friend and chest is usually one of the monk pvp sets from WoD for the arm wraps.
What do you think? Can post the actual mog when I get home.
tidal creek
You know you can export image on mobile so we don’t have to see your phones bars?
weary crypt
I didnt know that actually, how do I do it?
tidal creek
Press that and then just hold down on it to save like a normal image, crop as needed ;)
hidden dragon
south mantle
Will rogues ever be able to xmog to warglaives?
wraith hollow
no
wraith hollow
You can mog any of the glaives that were categorized as swords. Like the wod pvp glaives. but the legendary you won't ever be able to mog - and you won't be able to mog the DH glaives.
mighty plank
I like to mess about with her mogs and titles. This one is just a gag mog because I'm tired of all the "ninja" mogs right now. 😃
fair turret
Not many ninja mogs I’ve seen that have been that good. Honestly this channel consist of more pirates then anything else. @mighty plank
wraith hollow
I wish we had ninja mogs
ember mason
I wish we had more ninja mogs but there aren't many leather pieces that are dark-dark.
mighty plank
Well, here are three mogs I like, the ninja mog on the right. I have another one with the Cursed Vision of Sargaras, but it's mostly the same.
ember mason
I'm a fan of the vest + dress shirt in the middle mog
alpine lynx
it does remind me of fancy, pimped out bank/ah lvl 1 characters
livid slate
start over
wraith hollow
Full set + meme shoulders + wrong color thunderfury. 
upbeat geode
Oh
any changes u would do
ah
k
ill start after i get him 110
Btw
Sub or outlaw
wraith hollow
Both
craggy laurel
Just use what you like
mighty plank
@upbeat geode I don't think it's horrible. The weapons could be smaller and more matchy though.
pure sky
Man Giggle et all, I thought you guys were kinda dickish until I read the mog guide in the pins
It's really cool and makes a lot of simple yet key points about what works together
Do you guys just put shit together in the dressing room when looking for a new concept, or is there a particualr addon or way or organizing it better?
mighty plank
I use "mogit" to find stuff that matches pieces I have, or for stuff that's the color I want. It's a great addon.
pure sky
cool thanks
fervent mulch
Even the transmog are worse during the content drought
pure sky
I'm someone who wears black jeans, black chelsesa boots, and dark shirts the majority of the time IRL
This is literally
teaching me how to color coordinate for the first time
thank you wise masters
fervent mulch
Just wear alliance tier 9 everywhere
to the office
in the pool
baby showers
weddings
it's the ultimate powersuit
pure sky
It really is
rare shell
gray
mighty plank
@pure sky At least you chose the right class...
rare shell
do not base your real life outfits on transmog advice
pure sky
No no
rare shell
color coordinating a superhero outfit is not the same as dressing as someone ppl wont avoid at the bar
pure sky
I'm saying I've never been good at judging color cohesiveness and what clashes, so I've always defaulted to simpler, darker tones. This is just a fun way of playing with some of those concepts.
I would never wear all green to a bar
rare shell
there are a lot of transmog rules about color and patterns that are bad to follow for clothes
rare shell
in xmog having different textures/materials looks bad
wraith hollow
@pure sky which mog
rare shell
but in real life if you adhere to that rule you will look like a denim scarecrow
wraith hollow
Oh that's not mine
pure sky
Yeah I've definitely worn a canadian tuxedo
rare shell
also in this channel ppl really dislike when you wear different shades of the same color
rare shell
but in real life that's like...how it works.
wraith hollow
Yeah he's great at mogging
pure sky
The frustrating balance for me with tmog is trying to get something that's based on racial or faction aesthetics without either copying a set wholesale or halphazardly stitching stuff together
Specifically Nelf
rare shell
for sure.
elves are taller so they can wear more drapey/flowey stuff without getting lost in it
pure sky
Issue is boots for me
The clunkier ones are just off-putting, and there is a limited selection of the sleeker, higher ones
Especially within the last few expacs
wraith hollow
Also we aren't trying to be dicks rather I think a lot of the mog regulars just prefer a higher standard. IDK about you but it drives me nuts when I go in another class discord and someone posts a full set and they get reactions like 10/10 wow OMG so good that's amazing etc when it's literally what you can see in game in the sets section.
pure sky
Oh for sure, I was just teasing a bit. I love this channel's appraoch
wraith hollow
I love to see creativity and something unique and of course you start to run out of unique combinations eventually like end of and expansion hehe but ultimately we want people to put effort into something that not only looks good to them but is going to be aesthetically pleasing to everyone who sees it
wicked seal
Too bad BfA won't bring any new creativity @wraith hollow
wicked seal
Weapons aren't what I think of when I hear tmog
Every class Is already able to tmog into different weapon types...
craggy laurel
unless you are a bear druid!
livid slate
You can do sword/dagger now
grim lance
A simple Dark Iron Dwarf rogue transmog.
grim lance
Another screenshot from a little closer perspective.
potent carbon
rare shell
is that a set
potent carbon
yes, minus helm and waist just thought it went together pretty well
livid slate
Yep, turns out sets go together pretty well
primal hedge
terse aurora
Basically full bloodfang minus the Helm and Pants
As well as those elusive shoulders that never will drop for me
They are now I look at it
I thought someone finally found the Artful Dodging pants
wraith hollow
Someone literally already posted bloodfang and those shoulders together the day before. it's garbage
@potent carbon if you're going to use 4/5 pieces of the same set might as well just use the whole set. It makes you look like you just haven't gotten the belt / helm yet.
dull kernel
Bought t9 pieces on my horde rogue thinking this would unlock alliance counterpart and I will be able to mog it on the rogue I'm leveling there. Didn't work.
Also don't really know how I've got chest and legs from that set on alliance side already unlocked without playing alliance.
umbral jackal
item drops from raid
alpine lynx
pandaria quests have lookalikes for T9
dull kernel
I do recall playing some rogue up to 90 on alliance once, but according to wowhead there're no pants lookalikes from quests
alpine lynx
alliance t9 LA boots are available from a quest in jade forest on horde
umbral jackal
none set items get converted
eternal rock
wraith hollow
50 shades of green
dull kernel
tauren
wary owl
Undead
upbeat geode
I play undead so perfect
eternal rock
If you pvp a good bit orc is nice for stun resist
alpine lynx
too bad maghar orcs look way cooler than normal ones imo
wary owl
Its obviously undead tho, warlock and rogue will always be the classes that fit them
alpine lynx
well i like orc rogues, undead rogues and belf rogues, i don't find pandaren nor trolls to be aesthitically pleasing
alpine lynx
zandalari males look promising
terse field
Mag'har outlaws are solid
upbeat geode
Mag’har?
dull kernel
imo orcs are too bulky and thus rogue doesn't fit them that much
just look at how all the shoulder armour looks on them
warped sonnet
im torn between undead rogue or Belf myself
wraith hollow
I prefer belf over undead
alpine lynx
garona is one of my favourite rogue characters so i was happy to racechange to femorc for pvp purposes, maleorcs are bulky and hunched over, awful to look at, at least that is going to change in bfa
dull kernel
fem orc screams make my ears bleed 😦
warped sonnet
to bad we can use the Chinese model for ud
alpine lynx
they could and should make that an option like orc posture (at the barber)
dull kernel
they gave belves golden eyes, and didn't even make it a separate thing
alpine lynx
and femorc doesnt bother me since i play with muted sound mostly
dull kernel
only 3 new faces with those eyes afaik
like imagine if orc posture was bound to something like 3 specific skin colours
cinder dove
isn't eye color bound to specific faces for every race?
alpine lynx
okay but to be fair orc posture is a bigger visual impact than the eye colour
belfs only had green eyes previously iirc
dull kernel
^this
warped sonnet
question is off topic but do any of you guys play on area 52 or illidan horde side?? im thinking of starting over on one of those two for bfa
@ripe fulcrum not bad simple but to the point
alpine lynx
these 2 match the style of the but are blue/grey and purple under the bandages
dull kernel
tbh eye colour being chosen separately from faces could be a nice addition to character customization. maybe someday...
ripe fulcrum
ye, a brown like that would match perfectly
alpine lynx
characer customization on the level of bless online would be brilliant but i think a completely new game engine would be in order
@ripe fulcrum posted this mog previously but again to highlight that the gloves perfectly match the colour scheme of t20 normal (Arachnid Gloves and lookalikes thereof).
ripe fulcrum
it really does
terse aurora
Blizzard: Here guys transmog to nothing but a tabard, gloves, and belt.
Blizzard: SUNGLASSES?!?!?! ABSOLUTELY FUCKING NOT
wraith hollow
@warped sonnet I'm Illidan. It's a good realm for horde
terse aurora
When I was Horde I was on Draenor
That's a good Horde Server
neat escarp
Why has nobody discussed the cheekiness and coolness of goblin rogue?
terse aurora
No one mogs like Gaston
neat escarp
Really not a fan of those style of boots though
They seem floppy and not practical.
But Gaston’s forearm game is on point.
rare shell
orcs look amazing in al armor
deep umbra
btw if femorc sounds bother you there's maghar in a month or so
jade drum
gnome taunt screams are lit
wicked seal
I've never actually seen boots with those flaps girl. Why are they the main style for leather
orchid echo
@terse aurora I was just about to say someone already posted that mog on here a few months ago. but it was you! last screenshot had a better pose.
umbral jackal
what do you guys think of this dagger? http://www.wowhead.com/item=73467/cataclysmic-gladiators-spellblade
scenic mirage
i think it's a bit plain - but will probably look really nice with some subtle enchant xmog'd to it
ember mason
@umbral jackal
They don't shout "FOR THE GLORY OF QUEL'THALAS" that's for sure. It's an actual roar.
alpine lynx
i gladly forget what that sounds like, mid puberty voice crack
dull kernel
Trying to put together a green belf-styled mog, but (obviously) there's no chest in this colour. Came up with this combination of some shirt and Vari LFR chest, any good?
Ignore daggers btw.
livid slate
I like how the chest basically looks like a much cleaner nicer looking of that super old BC set. but mixing the textures and brightness of colors doesn't look good imo
dull kernel
can't find anything that would actually fit the colour scheme 😦
livid slate
shoulders and boots are legion combatant gear from s3/4, the rest is the first tier of MoP, heroic tint
novel mica
Thanks!
alpine lynx
head should be the opportunist blue pvp set from tbc
formal echo
A product of pre-expansion doldrums and my friends getting me to finally watch jjba:
ＡＷＡＫＥＮ ＭＹ ＭＡＳＴＥＲＳ
Featuring yours truly, The Don, and MackyD.
terse field
Amazing.
formal echo
I spent an embarassing amount of time making that shit
terse field
formal echo
but it had to be done
terse aurora
Pillar men you say?
Omw
I love that image tho
wintry river
Any updates on Artful Britches? I just got mask from turning in token and choosing poisoned knives
terse aurora
Nope
:(
wintry river
Thought so. I wonder if they somewhere in Antorus... time to pickpocket everything in there 😉
ember mason
That'd be pretty neat, tbh.
summer arch
ember mason
Is that Frostwolf heritage armor?
summer arch
parts of it the other peaces are season 11 catta plate pvp gear and mythic dk gloves
ember mason
Player coats in BfA yet?
livid slate
if that maghar armor is anything like the other allied races, theres only gonna be 1 tint of it. remember all those different colored ones they showed for lightforged? only 1 exists in the game
livid slate
yeah, just like there are for lightforged. doesn't mean they will actually make it in game
summer arch
i know but they might
terse aurora
Would like it if Blizzard explained why
wraith hollow
expecting blizzard to explain things
summer arch
pi
livid slate
ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh
livid slate
did I get it tho?
fervent mulch
I’m going to display blind personal bias and award you the MackyD seal of approval despite that not even being a mog
Because it’s the pre expansion doldrums so rules are meaningless.
@formal echo I’m in awe
drowsy phoenix
terse field
wut
opaque sable
wary owl
Elf/10
gaunt jay
glowy and dark at the same time and a (vanilla/TBC?) set thrown in 
wraith hollow
Outdated pixel set + glowy shoulders IDK I'm not feeling it
plain mantle
fervent mulch
BFA can’t come soon enough
terse aurora
Went for a Noblewoman kind of vibe
terse field
@terse aurora neat
The blue on the boots is distracting
But I dig the rest of it.
@plain mantle Yours is the future the anti-transmog-devs want
plain mantle
Haha I'm sorry:(
rose sinew
lol is that a monocle, nice touch
severe crag
valid shoal
5/7
wraith hollow
Daggers don't match mog. The lighting is atrocious all I can see are the shoulders and helm which are same set so I'm just gonna assume full set 0/10
terse aurora
It works a lot better on a human male than female :(
It covers up the blue on the pants
alpine lynx
legs is t20 normal, chest and hands are t2, lightdrinker boots and the memebelt from wod s2
upbeat geode
Wrong pic
strange trout
anyone farming thunderfury ?xD
clear robin
wraith hollow
Another bad lighting zoomed out shot. Looks like another full set tho 0/10
marble leaf
Personal preference really
Flip a coin
Although if it's male, not nightborne cause male nightbornes are uggo af
fervent mulch
What the hell is happening
fervent mulch
Why has every mog posted here for the past week been a 0 effort meme elf full set with shit cropping
terse field
Blizz did not put much effort into them
fervent mulch
0/10's all around
buoyant valley
end of expansion, everybodys tryna make something "unique"
verbal ocean
verbal trellis
Y'all know you can zoom in right?
alpine lynx
hope this helps
alpine lynx
and to be serious that set looks like you leveled to 110 through questing, got the (atm) 142 artifact traits and did the mage tower challenge just to share a widescreen shot with us
verbal ocean
That would be impressive though wouldn't it? MT completed it questing gear? 😄
orchid echo
also, if your shadow is pointing toward the camera, you're facing the wrong way, that means you're backlit.
verbal ocean
Damn y'all are putting so much thought into this... I'll take a 3 month screenshot hiatus and come back with some quality ish for ya.
orchid echo
lol, can't you see that it's almost impossible to tell what is on your screen shot?
you can also target yourself, that should apply an ambient light to your character
verbal ocean
Maybe I zoomed out so much because my mog is shit, didja ever think of that?!
marble leaf
tell me how shit it is
just do it
I feel like a lot of things are off
like the gloves, even though its a set between the shoulders
boots are also off
🤷
verbal ocean
It's better than a lot of the garbage people (me) post in here!
The boots aren't awful, but I feel you could find some better ones.
marble leaf
what about this one
I feel like I need more gold trim
but holy shit, I have a basis for these pants
jk belt is shit
wicked seal
I really like the first one
marble leaf
belt situation has been fixed
maybe
now I need need a better helm/possibly chest
probably cowl of fright
fervent mulch
Last mog was better
marble leaf
that'd be so nice
fervent mulch
This one looks like your elf is wearing ripped leggings as pants
The last one looked like Forrest ranger armor
Also the colors just don’t mesh as well
You just have this band of orange across your crotch from the gloves and pants
And the greens clash
marble leaf
yeah, I need more gold trim
tbh those pants are really hard to mog for
biggest problem was my old mog looks meh on NElf
but looked good on VElf
marble leaf
shoulders arent in proper place either
fervent mulch
I’m looking forward to figuring out how to hell to make mogs look good on my kultiran
That waistline is gonna fuck belts uuuuuuup
marble leaf
I need more gear
I account swapped a year and a bit ago
so I dont have a lot of my pieces
need to do runs zzz
deft summit
alpine lynx
practice with male pandaren
deft summit
Well. The tabard is tough. If you've got a better suggestion?
formal echo
Don't use a tabard, that's my suggestion. Personally, I really dislike the appearance of them.
deft summit
Alright, I'll play around a bit and see if I can't find something better underneath.
deft summit
https://gyazo.com/bbe2a84bf527046fe55f78ce8c320f05 Better or worse.
elder sigil
What I've been rocking since I could transmog the bits from Ulduar.
neat radish
wispy turtle
Look at what rogues have become
They should have made the mythic set green so I could rp robin hood
wispy turtle
Sweet
orchid echo
Set fails.
rare shell
That mythic set
Looks SO terrible
I feel personally attacked
It's like when ppl designing hot wheels need to put flames on it so we know it goes faster
cursive depot
skirt doesnt match
change skirt or try to weave the chest and skirt together with a good belt
That being said i like the chest shoulder hands combo
arctic sable
When you said that I started to see that skirt doesn't match too 😄
gonna change either pants or chest to find perfect combination
compact haven
any recommended pirate helms that arent eyepatches and admiral hats?
want a better helm for this any other recommendations would be great 😄
viscid stratus
maybe the sinister rogue mask? not much choice right now if you aim for a pirate tmog
compact haven
i was thinking that as well, just hate the grind for it 😦 thanks you though!
compact haven
its rogue* lol
compact haven
ooo the mask my bad love
buoyant river
All good, people always misspell rogue so I had to take the opportunity for the opposite
unique lava
This is my outlaw, any suggestions?
I wanted him to be more of a bandit than a pirate, there are already a lot of pirates out there
summer arch
yea
digital lark
What's your guys' favorite rogue set?
Mine is Valorous Terrorblade out of Ulduar
I don't think it gets better than that.
compact haven
mine is the tier from ICC
crystal ember
Say hello to my little friend
alpine lynx
put it back in the emerald nightmare
spark needle
"the smaller they are, the angrier they are" apply here
scenic mirage
tried to make a nice subtle leather set that isn't flashy. Any recommendations on boots and helmets? I know the eyepatch is a meme but it's rly the only thing I have other than facemasks that work well with this mog so far
i really want the black tuxedo pants but I need noblegarden event 
wraith hollow
@ndemco#6244 mythic t20/s3-4 elite best set in game
summer arch
alpine lynx
that rogue mog is so good it almost looks like a shaman
summer arch
it is a shaman mog
runic sparrow
Crazy how nature do that.
umbral jackal
on weapons i will put breath of yulon for the green glow
summer arch
there is a upgraded shaman set i did
summer arch
visual parrot
possible to find gear similar to this?
livid slate
on monk yes, not on rogue
marble leaf
Can probably get a similar rogue mog, not at my pc so I can't take a stab at it
neat escarp
@scenic mirage are married to the cloak are you? I reckon it would look better with no cloak.
neat escarp
ahh sweet!
scenic mirage
i wish there was back pieces in the game that werent cloaks that you could transmog
neat escarp
like a backpack or something?
neat escarp
flags would be cool
scenic mirage
running around with a guild emblem flag haha
neat escarp
I hate those half length cloaks... i'm not a fricken girl/boy scout
actually that gives me a trollish tmog idea
wicked seal
Sword sheaths on the back should be a clock
maiden reef
alpine lynx
the prestige pennants give you a flag on the back, same with the toy from day of the dead
umbral jackal
we need disable bracers and hands, so many shirts with nice sleeves but hands and bracer ruin them
lime jacinth
drowsy phoenix
tardy tendon
alpine lynx
we are in dire need of a full set/full set emote @terse field
terse field
That's valid. Somebody should make one
fervent mulch
On it
fervent mulch
@terse field Whats the font for the 
emoji?
terse field
Haven't the foggiest
fervent mulch
Ok, almost done
quartz robin
master Macky do you have any good belf mog to show? cant decide between undead or belf
quartz robin
really like undead, but the fucking spine on leather armor..
i'l meditate it a litle bit more
fervent mulch
@terse field
quartz robin
lmao
terse field
@fervent mulch can't on phone apparently
terse field
I will later on laptop
fervent mulch
there we go
the Full Set was slightly off center and it would have haunted me forever
tidal creek
is there anyone that can recognize item name just by looking at it?
items*
check pw
wraith hollow
@terse field when you're alive again plz make that an emoji lmao
wraith hollow
oh yeah you're a hospital boi now
meh
@fervent mulch we need a new one
one that looks that good but doesn't lose it's glory when tiny
winter anchor
https://imgur.com/a/MxzMBRX any helm/shoulder sugestions ? 
fervent mulch
@wraith hollow What about 2 emotes? One thats the trash can and one that says full set?
yeah
So theres the trash emote
alpine lynx
@winter anchor mask of artful dodging and replace those boots
@fervent mulch lovely use of a male belf btw
umbral jackal
🗑 
alpine lynx
the mesh on the trashcan is distorted, it looks like it will fall towards the onlooker
wraith hollow
I like the stop sign
spark needle
And i thought i'm unique
livid slate
uniquely mediocre
fervent mulch
They're designed to be used in conjunction
alpine lynx
well the trashcan itself can and probably will be used to bash meme elves even if they are not wearing a full set
upbeat geode
fervent mulch
Would I do that
Make an emote which I could use to bash meme elves
Does that sound like something I would do?
fervent mulch
as soon as giggle gets those emotes done
umbral jackal
🗑
fervent mulch
Ill show you what I think
umbral jackal
🚮
upbeat geode
rlly
fervent mulch
Rlly.
alpine lynx
yes it does 100%
umbral jackal
was unlucky
tidal creek
nothing wrong with wearing full set
i mean
full set is like a dick
nothing wrong with you having it
just dont spin it in front of other people faces
they dont like it
fervent mulch
That’s what a lot of people don’t get
You want to wear full bloodfang?
Go for it
It’s an awesome set
You want to post full bloodfang in a transmog channel for original outfits and ask what we think?
We’re gonna mock your ass
terse aurora
I got really drunk last night and race changed my Rogue to a Female Panda
I don't hate it
Actually I think I love it
Animations are better than Void Elf
runic sparrow
That's not normal drunk. That's tequila level of drunk.
terse aurora
Not the best Photo or Mog but I'll take a better one tomorrow
Just mixed the WoTLK Gladiator gear from different seasons with questing shoulders with the Antorus tier belt
Will probably change it when I get some better pieces
tidal creek
panda :puke:
terse aurora
Prefer how they look to Void Elfs
Animations, Sounds, Voicelines etc.
Though I will miss the Sassy British voice of the Velf
fervent mulch
Fuck it
Don't care if it's a female pandaren
1 less void elf on the Alliance is never a bad thing
You're an inspiration to us all
wicked seal
I'm still wondering if I should keep my rogue as Nelf since shadowmeld became worse in M+ or shift to velf for the damage buff and tmog
viscid stratus
reroll into a non-elf race like every decent player should do
rare shell
i legit got drunk once and woke up with a boosted monk
i actually really dont like how transmogs look on pandas
certain parts get stretched usually and i just think it looks weird
viscid stratus
well, they make all armors ingame on human male's, even druid and dh sets, main reason why some monk sets that are pandaren themed look bad on them....
white mesa
Well imagine being an undead
viscid stratus
undercity tabard on undead looks so stupid......
white mesa
I cant even tell how many transmogs are ruined by their shitty ass spine and their forsenlike posture
obtuse iris
😬
white mesa
tidal creek
this tmog is :puke:
the amount of rogues ive seen with it
i'd rather use ulduar with those daggers
looks much better
white mesa
Yeah i still like it tho, ive not been farming much transmog in legion, gotta change that in bfa
tidal creek
even tho its fullset
i love this set + daggers
well, boots are not from the set xD
but they match quite well
white mesa
Ill see what transmog is worth farming
But first i gotta change my race
I just cant stand playing undead anymore 
white mesa
I think transmogs look really well on female nightborn or b11 tbh even though everyone does that