I'm not particularly interested in self-styled e-lebrities
#transmog
terse field
wary owl
No way I would watch some boring guy playing it
terse field
(or real celebrities for that matter)
Man Legion/BFA has even killed xmog
we're talking about streamers in here
fervent mulch
The drought is real
wary owl
Indeed
I wouldn't go as far to call Asmon a "celebrity" guy wears pyjama pants in public
terse aurora
Like I said I like Preach
He is a very good WoW streamer
terse field
He's an e-lebrity
that's pretty common
their fanbase doesn't expect them to, if anything he's a better representation of them because of that
mortal onyx
a
scenic thicket
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marble leaf
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daring shale
č
wraith hollow
Dont do that
eternal harness
frail magnet
Is it just me or the head piece feels super out of place? otherwise looks nice, but screenshot in lighter places lol
eternal harness
Yeah it didnt look so dark when I took the picture, I'll take a brighter one later 😄
Not sure which headpiece would fit the colour scheme better
alpine lynx
@eternal harness took your mog and made some adjustments, hope oyu like it
eternal harness
Why did you have to take the screenshot while he was blinking?
terse aurora
You're welcome my dude
hallow wharf
Forsaken mogging is hard
Why didn't I just roll meme elf
Zandalari seems like a cool rogue option, but nelf animations are pretty gross
Especially stealth walkinf
Ugh
hallow wharf
Just combat animations
I don't actually know, I just remember the zandalari in ToT were very nelf esque
I'm sure you can preview animations in the dressing room tho
iron creek
Forsaken mogging isn't hard
rogue t5
warlock ulduar tier
DK anything really
boom lazy forsaken mog
or you can just steal my mog for dk lol
ugh I cant find my screenshot
alpine lynx
I'm sure you can preview animations in the dressing room tho
yes you can
wary owl
Forsaken bad race for rogue btw
Not viable. better go blood elf like 75% of horde population
alpine lynx
forsaken just alters your mog game since gear pieces are cut off
cloud imp
Well blood elf has silence. Simple as my dude. Praise BFA for when Belf may be suboptimal for group content.
wary owl
Im just so sick of seeing blood elves everywhere, even worse with alliance having their version
turbid birch
terse field
"Don't worry!" They said; "It's not less art by ending class tier sets!" They argued. "Raid-themed sets!"
wraith hollow
Not impressed
wraith hollow
It's better than emerald nightmare base sets. But I liked the mythic set there vs this crap of just recoloring the mythic set and basically having it look the same as the lower tiers
hallow wharf
remember when Mythic BRF sets had unique animations?
Remember how Wod s1 2k gear was worth getting?
Remember how people complained that blizzard was "gating" good rewards behind hard content?
Why should blizzard put any effort in making raid gear look good? YOu're just going to have casuals complain that its too hard to get, because they cant wait for 2-3 patches for the content to be trivial
terse field
That's a silly argument
"people want gear to be easy to get so we're going to make less gear"
Like what does that have to do with anything
Lol
fervent mulch
News flash @hallow wharf
wary owl
Well there is the warfront gear
fervent mulch
Blizzard being lazy and making shitty 0-effort armor sets isn’t the players fault
hallow wharf
im not defending blizzard in the slightest
fervent mulch
It’s blizzards fault
wary owl
so technically 2 sets vs 1 tier set
hallow wharf
But players gave blizzard an easy way out
wary owl
And Alliance plate warfront > Any tier ever
hallow wharf
because now they can go "see! We're giving players what they want!"
same reason with teh Master loot change
they want to make raiding less intimidating
fervent mulch
Morth, 2 sets of shitty armor doesn’t equal one good set
hallow wharf
so they're like
marble scarab
Oh god
hallow wharf
"We'll make hte mean loot council go away for you!"
wary owl
They want to shift the meta away from mythic raiding, its pretty obvious
Lets hope for M+ sets or something
marble scarab
Even the title is undesirable for me
hallow wharf
Mythic raiding has only existed for 2 expansions
wary owl
well hardcore raiding in general
Its stale and boring for attracting new players
and old will just hop on Classic asap once it comes out
marble scarab
Don't know if I count as a new player
But I started when HFC came out
n I M raid
hallow wharf
why would anyone want to raid in classic lmfao
marble scarab
Classic is completely unappealing to me - going off what I hear about it.
wary owl
because of all the stuff around it ? and 40 players
hallow wharf
yeah, cause raiders love pvp
wary owl
I didnt say raiders, old players in general
Vanilla wpvp is something this game missed for too long
viscid stratus
rogues 1shoting people with mulitate
daring shale
lol wpvp
marble scarab
Off topic, but mace rogue with indefinite stuns 👀
viscid stratus
yeha but unbalanced stuff is not fun in my eye's
viscid stratus
world pvp was always unbalanced as fk, but yeha, legion wpvp is some next lvl shit
wary owl
you cant even get any guild v guild action because of the garbage sharding
viscid stratus
isnt sharding disabled in rp servers? or only for citys?
wary owl
Idk I play on an RP server and get sharded when city raiding
terse field
that's uh
still got nothing to do with it
players wanting easier gear
= / =
making less art
wary owl
Well the game does need some racial armor- troll/dwarf/tauren etc. Atleast we might get something like that
Unless the raids are some Old god bs
terse field
raids thus far are probably
Uldir, then Azshara, then N'zoth
maybe, MAYBE some faction stuff thrown in
wary owl
Well this does look pretty badass honestly.
fervent mulch
Looks like dwemer armor
and it beats the hell out of the "Wotlk blue dungeon set" pile of shit that we got
Leather has been absolutely shit on so far in BFA
Mail and Plate get Kraggs shoulder but leather doesnt
wary owl
Yeah looks like 90% of funds went into plate
fervent mulch
2 trenchcoat models and we get a shitty dungeon set with a garbage mask and ugly chest
its a total fucking joke
wary owl
but the pirate stuff is nice
fervent mulch
WHAT pirate stuff though?
We didnt get any of the tricorne hats
or the fucking shark jaw shoulder
or either of the long coats
total fucking joke
wary owl
Ah yeah the hats etc. are cosmetic
viscid stratus
that plate set looks like the dwarf armor in skyrim
eternal harness
I said I'd upload a brighter picture! 😄
ocean jasper
C O L O R S
But i like the concept
livid slate
deadpool cosplay?
rose sinew
honestly, looks like you played the game "lets find as many shades of red as possible"
fervent mulch
I will say
Seeing it well lit
I understand why you wanted to show us as little as possible
0/10
wraith hollow
The shades just don't match
marble scarab
It looks like 🚮
marble scarab
All those shades of red make me see red
formal echo
talking about the new raid set btw, not that guy's mog
formal echo
the actual plate set looks neat
the leather set looks like they gave up halfway on a plate armor idea and just called it leather
marble scarab
It's sincerely disappointing
formal echo
and ffs WHY would you half-ass leather when the majority of classes use it, jesus christ.
marble scarab
I don't even know if I'll be able to salvage any pieces from it
Certainly not the shoulders.
stark totem
i really wish they'd keep class raid sets but then include the raids own set, cause so far don't think any of the sets fit to the rp of any class
but they gonna use the rp excuse for reasoning why we can't do 80% of the stuff we'd like
cold loom
Just give us aesthetic sets when we complete entire raid.
terse field
I mean
outside of the plate
the other sets
don't really even feel that "uldir-themed"
cold loom
RIP.
finite tusk
I like how the quality goes down when sets drop from umm 12? to 4
gray fjord
How did i do? i rather enjoy it my self.
wide sapphire
Decent
frail magnet
I'm pretty sure getting that will be waste of time
terse aurora
Between the GCD changes and ML changes I really don't want to play BfA
As well as Blizzard straight up lying to us with the Trenchcoat
terse aurora
How come Blizzard have been lying more ever since Ion became Game Master?
marble scarab
I hate the people that scream “It was obviously just concept art”
Taking Blizzard’s side for no good reason
When they’re getting our hopes extremely high and then crushing them mercilessly
terse aurora
No fuck them
They showed the concept art that had the cape
And didn't someone on a PS make a cape that looked like that and it worked fine
frail magnet
and advertising it as actual thing?
terse aurora
Small Indie Company
marble scarab
No
frail magnet
yes
terse aurora
Yeah because they fucking showed the Trenchcoat on a STANDARD HUMAN MODEL
marble scarab
Ffs
terse aurora
They showed other sets that players can get (questing plate and Dungeon Plate) next to it
frail magnet
unluck
marble scarab
I’m a die hard WoW fan that will probably never unsub
But jfc
I feel cheated
On an xmog level
terse aurora
How is that Unlucky.
They showed it with the intent of generating Hype because of the coat
terse aurora
They implyed it
terse aurora
The other two can be obtained
The coat cannot be.
Why show it next to armour you can get, implying players can get it.
marble scarab
If I tell you about demon hunters. Give you models of demon hunters. Show you a pair of warglaives and then don’t release them. Am I at fault? I never told you you were getting them.
frail magnet
yea, cuz they can been easily meant as NPC models.
terse aurora
And that was a photo shown at the BfA reveal.
They have the tech to make those kinds of items for players but won't because small Indie Company
marble scarab
I feel like something is holding them back from releasing those things on players. Whether it be a large amount of work or spaghetti code or whatever. They wouldn’t keep something from us needlessly
But all the same
They shouldn’t show it if we won’t get it
frail magnet
or maybe its just scrapped concept or they gonna release it later
y'all raging for nothing lol
frail magnet
same shit
marble scarab
And I believe I have valid reasons
terse aurora
I'm also upset
That Blizzard are lying to players, not just with XMog but in the changes that BfA brings.
frail magnet
lets not go off topic too much. Pointless to argue about it anyway.
terse aurora
Every reason for the GcD changes and ML changes can be shot down and have been.
terse aurora
Blizzard have proved they can make coat models work
And proper 3D models like the flails
marble scarab
They haven’t done it with a chest or a cape yet though
So some sort of code or something could potentially be in the way
Or maybe it’s just a huge burden on the art team
terse aurora
It's on NPC models so it clearly works
Make it alliance only if you have too, BfA is about faction so there's an opportunity
terse field
"It's just alpha"
"It's still beta"
"It's just 8.0"
"It's just 8.1"
You realize that more often than not if something doesn't make it in at launch the chance it will make it in at all decreases dramatically, right?
I mean sure, gear models aren't quite as intense usually.
But hey, how many allied races will we get before worgens finally get an art update? 😉
frail magnet
I'll bet we get worgen allied race before that
frail magnet
"insert extra thicc meme here"
thorn wing
terse field
assuming 77 day patch cycle
("arbitrary, btw" - Ion, Teller of Truth Always)
~3 months per patch, 8.1 being 3 months after launch, 8.2 being minimum 3 mos (that assumes no 8.0.5 and 8.1.5)
frail magnet
Cuz its "content" to keep dudes resubing and shit
And gives them more time to focus on the actual expac features
Aint best solution but better than half assed shit
frail magnet
Huh
fervent mulch
Blizzard was clearly implying all 3 sets would be obtainable
frail magnet
Oh this shit
fervent mulch
They put the trench coat next to the armor that everyone who played the floor demo started in
frail magnet
Yea, thats why I kinda gave up on arguing
fervent mulch
Because your argument has no basis?
frail magnet
Ya
fervent mulch
And you’re sucking ions dick for no reason?
frail magnet
Lol
Wasnt sucking his dick
I give zero shits about transmog
Didnt see it as big deal
finite tusk
no trench coats coming
frail magnet
And there wasnt reason to argue
So take your dick sucking somewhere where people are curious about it and fuck off
Thank you
fervent mulch
Nah, if you’re gonna blindly defend every deceptive and shitty move blizzard makes, that’s your right, but I’ll call you on it.
frail magnet
Maybe there is good reason why I stopped defending it and fucked off from the convo
Init
But i guess thats too hard to comprehend
fervent mulch
Had you said “hmm, that’s a good point, nevermind” or something to that strand, I’d have assumed you’d changed your opinion and left it be
frail magnet
I implied it by stopping the defense
slow stream
All this over trench-coats btw
fervent mulch
But topics of conversation change, no longer discussing a point is not the same as conceding it
Either way, it sounds like it’s a moot point
@slow stream Transmog is srs bsns
slow stream
Real talk though idk what they’re doing with these leather sets but plate always seems to blow leather sets out of the water
frail magnet
Lets agree on the fact blizz is full of shit and overpromise shit
And leave coat to its being
fervent mulch
Fair enough
slow stream
The real cucking is not getting those epic capes they showed on the bfa soldier picture
fervent mulch
Leather in bfa is shaping up to be a total joke though, the quest leather is a shitty vest with ugly shoulders, the dungeon leather is an aborted trench coat with none of the style, and the uldir set is unfinished plate gear
frail magnet
Just following the Argus tradition
fervent mulch
Warfront armor is ok but it won’t match anything
frail magnet
How many world content transmogs we got as leather? 🤔
fervent mulch
Zippo
frail magnet
Yea, leather is shite so far
slow stream
Like it’s seriously annoying how playing warrior you can have 20 nice transmogs where as rogue you have like max 3
frail magnet
And half of them are are slutty lmao
The last good leather legion tmog
Was the chosen set
fervent mulch
Also tusks/archimonde armor/thunder king helm/satyr shoulders should all be cosmetic
frail magnet
Satyr shoulders are only good leather exlusive shit weve ever gotten
fervent mulch
And they’re too big to be useful
frail magnet
But i cant find tmog i like them in.....
slow stream
The meme black eye bandana from BT was alright too
fervent mulch
Meanwhile plate gets Scythe/tasalsch/Thunder king helm/tusks
fervent mulch
And BYE THE FUCKING WAY, plate and mail get kraggs shark jaw shoulder
fervent mulch
Leather, the PIRATE GEAR TYPE, doesnt
I supported it as a bug report because I’m so tilted
frail magnet
They should just fucking remove gear type (cloth leather mail plate) restrictions
Then ill take tmog a bit more seriously
slow stream
Priest in full fire lands heroic warrior set lmao
tame mason
5/17: 15 days since the last T3 rogue piece on the BMAH
frail magnet
idk i wouldnt mind if they would remove the restrictions
its pointless anyway
let the priests have their plate armor
frail magnet
I am
pretty disappoint
with BFA so far.
FTFY
anyway
here is my transmog
for your pleasure
http://prntscr.com/jj5p6u with weapons
finite tusk
💩
frail magnet
toxic
frail magnet
its all blue and shit
i suck at tmogging
best i can do with my limited collection
formal echo
I get that
formal echo
jesus christ you're fast
formal echo
that's a solid pin
frail magnet
okay
better? white po---
only problem here is
the head piece has more pixels
than rest of the tmog
finite tusk
formal echo
I'll give you props for trying to make a white mog
formal echo
that shit is impossible with leather at least
frail magnet
I aint got enough gear
terse field
Bone-whatever is kinda fullset tho
formal echo
it's better than the other set though
formal echo
well, get going on them old raids
terse field
t what, 11? 15?
terse field
heroic heart of fear set
formal echo
running old raids is quick and easy tho
terse field
#It'sSomething
formal echo
^
terse field
#AnAttemptWasMade
frail magnet
LUL
formal echo
frail magnet
well at least its not the fucked up start
Ill take it
I'll leave it, aint got enough shit to work with and I suck at it anyway
my last attempt
cant have unmatching glowy bits
if there are no glowy bits
formal echo
if you want a green mog feel free to steal mine and just use fang of the pit for the daggers
terse field
That's much better
don't love the boots but
I don't like most leather shoes
¯_(ツ)_/¯
fervent mulch
ember mason
It's a little more green. Like a teal
tame mason
only reason helm works in the pics is because the background is so dark
wraith hollow
🔦
tame mason
fervent mulch
Its brighter if you open in fullscreen
tame mason
i think its a sick set im just nit picking you 😛
only issue I truly have is that you've used the same mog for the last 3 years
tame mason
it is tweaked ill give you that
wraith hollow
perfection
Alliance
Pick one
gray fjord
ok ima repost cuz i originally posted at like 4am. aint no one on then. How did i do.
orchid echo
My eyes won’t recover from seeing that.
wary owl
Idk about the tabard, rest looks good
tawdry fable
The tabard hides the fact that the PvP chest piece is primarily a jarringly mismatched dark grayish purple.
covert spade
need glove recomendations
runic sparrow
I forget the name, but there are some really nice matching gloves from Thrallmar rep. Look up Xe, rogue on Tichondrius and it should show you what my gloves are mogged to.
Opportunist's Leather Gloves, something like that?
@covert spade
wheat parrot
manic shoal
fervent mulch
Void elf slutmog, and an ugly one at that.
-1/10
Fucks sake, 3D elements like the collar on the vest of the dashing scoundril vanish when you equip a tabard on beta
they need to fix that asap or my mog is fucked
cold loom
RIP
tender flame
tidal creek
Blue shoes 🤔
drowsy token
how much tier3 pieces is being sold in bk in ur server? Yesterday shoulders hit up 800k... insane..
uneven hill
t3 for rogue/war/wl usually sells for 2mil+
stark totem
i got t3 warrior for 1.3m
i nearly came tbh
@fervent mulch here's the trench coat you've been crying about...
i heard you wanted the jaw shoulders cause pirate ye well...
how about this number
terse aurora
That's not a trenchcoat
That's a fake flat texture
regal kelp
it's close but yet so far... nice color scheme though
terse aurora
Only saving grace is the helmet
Could make a Bloodborne mog down the line
teal comet
tried to show a little faction pride
dusty latch
http://www.wowhead.com/item=130327/artful-britches#outfits are these obtainable yet? finally managed to get every other piece but the legs
This is my horde pride 😄
tepid dust
@dusty latch i read the comments on the link you sent and i think its still obtainable but it doesnt say where
dusty latch
ye i read them too, also talking to a gm atm and he says he found 0 info
Gm didnt give any confirmation, just said "dont believe every comment on wowhead"
i DID get confirmation that the CM belt for rogues is the one proccing the smoke clouds from mutilate and toxic blade
so thats something
fervent mulch
@००#7538 get that half coat bullshit outta my sight
And how in the fuck is a clock belt the same as an iconic pirate jaw shoulder
terse field
Yeah afaik nobody knows how to get the legs, still
and ppl have posted on forums. Got no help
I figured it might be something secret like the Detection thing
wooden condor
@dusty latch also don't believe every comment from a GM. Went through 3 of them before one finally told me why I wasn't getting the last question for the motherlode chain on broken shore.
dusty latch
I mean obviously it's a hidden event to get the legs, or its just the arms warrior hidden artifact apperance all over again, blizz saying its in the game when its really not (hense why u cant even get information on the item if you use the wowhead link)
stark totem
@fervent mulch what you don't like flat textures in 2018??? smh what more can they do
terse aurora
S M A L L I N D I E C O M P A N Y
dusty latch
@finite tusk hense why i had my second part of my comment dedicated to them not beeing in game just like the arms duel with saurfang
dusty latch
https://i.gyazo.com/ab16bee6b2177833f36f2912d5c0ae30.png Look at this beauty
terse field
Your healthbar developed a chubby there
dusty latch
I know i reported the healthbar but blizz said they cant do annything
dusty latch
im scared of the nerfhammer
thorn kraken
@dusty latch use relentless tabard and red wep enchant If u got, currently What im using its ❤️❤️❤️
foggy dock
dusty latch
@thorn kraken sadly i didnt pvp at all for many years, recently started pvping in legion because i played warmane's tbc server on its launch and rogue was my choice there, once i downed BT i went back to retail 😛
thorn kraken
Ah to bad
dusty latch
i believe u can still get the red enchant if u reach 2400 tho, is that true?
dusty latch
ah okay, i do have the nightmare illusion from xavius tho 😛
best i did in mop was like 1.9 or smth 😦 was to busy raiding
abstract bobcat
kinda love my mog i feel like this one is just awesome on human female only maybe that's why i love it so much
covert spade
more power to you but i wish they didnt make this pvp tier so bright/shiny
finite tusk
sudden vigil
What belt and gloves do u guys use for deathdealer set
terse aurora
https://www.mmo-champion.com/content/2017-Tier-11-Models-Preview?page=14
What trial of style should award
The unobtainable Tier 11 and 12 pieces
wraith hollow
Both pretty awful sets imo
scenic thicket
yeah never liked those at all
terse aurora
That Blue Paladin Firelands one
livid slate
There was a white/gold/jade tint for monk t20 that never made it in, and when ToS actually came out and that appearance was nowhere to be seen, I was really disappointed
silent ledge
terse field
I mean I agree that the trial of style is a great opportunity to fill in the "missing pieces" of sets
grim maple
mews opinion is not wrong 😦
spiral rock
The normal and mythic Antorus sets are the best ever. Only mogs I will wear now.
summer wren
stark totem
hey anyone know if the Chosen Mythic Set is being removed, heard couple people say it likely to become unavailable after legion.
fervent mulch
It is
wraith hollow
^
limpid sphinx
how do you get the greyish bloodfang armor? most undead sets look shit so tryna get a new 1., do you just slam kara raid for it, or is it timewalking only
alpine lynx
the brown/grey tbc version can be obtained across all tier 4 and tier 5 raids (karazhan, mag, gruul, ssc, tk) different bosses drop some, there are visual duplicates
limpid sphinx
thanks man
stark totem
not the place but http://prntscr.com/jjztm1
limpid sphinx
shoulders dropped btw , rogue looking dope
fervent mulch
Blue one is better
Bought a bunch of the tcg cards back when they were 80 bucks each
Feelsgoodman
thorn kraken
its actually insane @stark totem happy for u
wraith hollow
I'd flip that
Rockets arent that cool of mounts to me
Would rather make money off it
stark totem
flip it
don't need gold tho
it's not exactly gonna increase in price either so ehh
only tcg i like is the rooster, snagged that bitch couple months ago
tidal creek
Looks pretty snazzy, to be honest! I do like the gold aspect to it and it does fit with the Dreadblades. 😄
dawn flume
I single handedly made a rogue, made a second account, bought legion to boost to 100 and then level it just to get the mage tower appearance and that outfit 😄
Was originally going to be playing Survival hunter in BFA, though I'm now tempted to go Outlaw
Working on getting the fleet commanders hat now to replace the eyepatch with
tidal creek
Ah, that's awesome! I used to play a Hunter in the early days of Vanilla but I fell out of it, sadly. But I may try the class again one day. 🙂
rocky hawk
graceful lichen
Reminds me of gearing in BC.
alpine lynx
that reminds me of having my transmog destroyed on alts cause i got new pieces from the weekly cache and some raid drops
terse aurora
Worgen/Tauren/SpaceSexys/Troll/Tauren/Panda
Shoes
Just listing all the No Boots races
alpine lynx
tov boots fit quite well on the hoof-races imho
nova basin
tidal creek
Looks pretty awesome! 😄
nova basin
shows skin, thus, has the 'big busted goth girlfriend' factor covered. but covering enough to not look like a cheap 'push her over a tree and do goldshire things' goldshire slut.
with a shirt (which i am not gonna use), it would be a practical outfit, actually :3
dawn flume
Wish i could transmog a pistol to the offhand 😦
nova basin
yus. but to be honest, do we actually HAVE pistol models?
since i think gun models pretty much all are rifles, when wieldable individually
tidal creek
Yeah, very true! 😦 But still, nothin' wrong with a 'big busted gothfriend factor' 😮
tawny thunder
aelandria that's basically how every low level rogue looks like
the farmer's set or whatever that is
nova basin
Discovery Armor, actually.
tidal creek
Sweetness!
fervent mulch
Still no trench coats though
marble scarab
Perhaps we should just accept it at this point Macky
It'll lessen the pain
Feelsbadman.jpg
fervent mulch
No
Never
I’m going down fighting
Until I get either a longcoat or kraggs shoulder
fervent mulch
Rogues deserve better than the dogshit uldir reject and wannabe coat we got served
finite tusk
just reroll kultiran
fervent mulch
I’m not gonna race change to get what should have been the leather questing gear
marble scarab
Amen
marble scarab
Have I mentioned yet how sad the dagger models look so far
fervent mulch
Better than whatever the fuck that dungeon set is
marble scarab
They just so... unremarkable. Plus they look like they couldn't cut a slice of sponge cake.
I don't even care they made the dungeon set shit
But the raid set should be something everyone wants. Something that turns heads.
marble scarab
😭
What's even worse is: we're not alone
Monks, DHs, and Druids have to put up with this shit too
alpine lynx
that is a sexy axe
fervent mulch
Yeah the weapons are the one thing I’m happy with in bfa mog wise
Got some badass pirate weps
dawn flume
Oh nice, is it easily obtainable/
nova basin
so a rapier in mainhand, a pistol axe in offhand. closest we get :3
for a yarring look
fervent mulch
@dawn flume leveling quest rewards
dawn flume
Sweet 😄
stark totem
@fervent mulch i already showed you the trench coats ffs
we just aren't allowed 3d texture
wraith hollow
and Macky responded with the rebuttle that its not actually a trenchcoat -which it isnt.
thats like calling this a tuxedo when its clearly a tshirt with a tuxedo design on it. Same thing with your "trenchcoat" its not really a trenchchoat just a chest and legs that have the design of one when put together
fervent mulch
Giggle put it better than I possibly could have
If I show up to a formal dinner in a tuxedo print t-shirt and say “well it’s a tuxedo, look! It just doesn’t have all the tuxedo elements” I’m gonna get my ass kicked
terse aurora
I'm not gonna suck Blizzard's dick.
They have the fucking tech to put the Trenchcoats in
Make them Alliance only
Since BfA is FaCtIoN wAr
Whatever that utter shite is it's not a Trenchcoat
It's a cocktease.
They shouldn't have shown it at Blizzcon
fervent mulch
I play alliance, and even I don’t think it’s fair to give Alliance rogues a godly trenchcoat and leave horde with whatever the fuck that abomination is
Trench coats for all
stark totem
that's clearly a tuxedo giggle
terse field
idk
worse than the trenchcoat thing
is that the pirate shoulder
isn't leather
the cool skull shoulder
open cosmos
Could be worse.
Could be animated, with the jaw occasionally snapping at a parrot that flies around and lands on it from time to time.
frail magnet
0/10, tabard clips behind the belt, fix
rigid bison
:<
terse aurora
BfA feels rushed.
They should push back the release date to like December or something.
Because as it stands now
-Transmog is fucked
-GCDs feel clunky and downright unplayable in some cases
-Master Loots removal is gonna affect Transmog runs
-Barely any endgame content
frail magnet
alpine lynx
@rigid bison pants don't match and tabard is a bit weird but something different so 4/10
dawn flume
What if raids an expansion or more behind didn't have a lockout? Meaning you could farm them multiple times a week if you wanted?
Just make it so if theirs a mount involved with that raid, you get one chance at it a week
alpine lynx
sounds grindy, i doubt that is going to happen class fantasy weekly reset should feel impactful
dawn flume
Eh, i was just thinking of a solution to the master loot changes for transmog runs, maybe they could just make it so personal loot is only for that current expansions raids or something, i unno
terse aurora
Or you know
Just don't put the ML changes in the game to fuckin begin with.
frail magnet
this is literally beating dead horse
every other day you are in channels on this discord ranting about how BFA is shit
unsub, uninstall and go with your life dude
they wont change their mind and made it extremely clear
terse aurora
Did I fucking say uninstall?
And I'm talking about ML changes affecting transmog runs
frail magnet
I said to uninstall. Because you are just bitching how the game is shit. Which is off topic.
No one uses ML for tmog runs, its either PL or GL
If u dislike the game so much, stop playing. Or give feedback on proper places. Not half assed shitty rants on this discord.
terse aurora
It's fine enough to say
Oh it's beta
Oh it's launch
Oh it's 8.1 etc.
But if we don't make our voices heard it won't be changed
It's almost as if beta is there to give feedback.
frail magnet
I'm not saying "its beta"
I said, they wont change their minds no matter about our feedback
Because they made it crystal clear they are done in this and will remove ML from the game in BFA. Any further complains are just pointless bitching which serve no purpose, other than annoying people who dont give a shit about your rants,.
terse aurora
And look what happened with WoD
They took on no feedback then and look what happened.
frail magnet
And even if they would be interested in feedback, they wont read it in #transmog channel on ravenholdt discord, therefore your placement is yet again wrong.
sigh
whatever. You are not reading what I'm writing and just having monologue and beating dead horse to it.
nova basin
also, hasn't there a 'tmog hunter' loot mode been mentioned?
nova basin
not giving actual items, but giving 1 not yet owned skin unlock per boss as PL, every boss, for everyone
would be smart for mog runs at least.
terse aurora
Wonder how Tusks of Memeroth is gonna work
wicked seal
Lol did dude tell us to stop talking about tmog in the tmog channel?
frail magnet
If you are refering to me, no I didnt.
stark totem
right bois what we upset about to day?
finite tusk
Idk this is the tmog channel
stark totem
trench coat
finite tusk
Always angery people here
wicked seal
My parents don’t love me reeee
dawn flume
Don't know if i want to keep my rogue worgen, or go human or Kul'tiran when it comes out for the sake of transmog
🤔
stark totem
kul'tiran get trench coat cause they showed a picture that one time, but never gave commit or confirmed it was going to be available
so can go kul'tiran then get upset
terse field
I mean there might be happy people in xmog if xmog didn't have the saltiest dev on the planet
frail magnet
I cant imagine that dude being a fun guy.
terse field
"I don't think transmog belongs in wow"
Xmog dev
frail magnet
All that shit they are doing with tmgos screams "WE HATE FUN"
terse field
"Gameplay first btw"
frail magnet
bunch of shit excuses on why their system sucks and they are bottlenecking it
every.time.
stark totem
alternative sheath options back or hip
and more plate boots that aren't bigger than shoulders
terse aurora
Might be a bit complicated but the option to layer certain headpieces
I want a bandana and an eyepatch damn it
tame mason
i like the idea of new cape models that arent flat sheets
runescape has better capes
maybe even... trench coats @fervent mulch
Kappa
frail magnet
thats basically transmog in a nutshell...
"how is that not in the game yet"
you dont have flying on argus because they want you to spend more time there
and how to artificialy increase time spent in a zone?
make it harder to navigate, bam, flying gone, only ground
I started new toon recently... so I do, but yea, its mostly barren now
portals are so baad tho
you still have to run across the map for some WQs
so they give you the ilusion of skipping around
and without them the backlash would be bigger than the non flying one
so they can flying and be like yo, TPs tho
me neither, but thats 'cause I can navigate there easily
most ppl rly cant and they suck aat working with map
yea
like
gimme sec, ill give you example
goblin glider is a god send on argus
agreed
here is the example
ya got the TP there
and still gotta run af to the corners
its not as bad in other zones, but in antoran wastes its quite clear
nova basin
maccaroni is actually quite well made, with port points
runic sparrow
Yeah McCree and Krakacarrotcake are both well made. Then Antoran Wastes is just like 💩
nova basin
i am actually glad that i am fcking done there, outside of the times when i just MUST head there for a quest or emissary.
got the 'need a matrix core ability to open' treasures, but thats it
terse field
there was so much hype leading up to argus
getting there was actually pretty disappointing
anyway
At a certain point you have to wonder. We got transmog in what, Cata? It's been years and years and years and we're still waiting on some pretty basic functionality
and they seem to be scaling back on player-centric art assets and focusing more on NPCs etc
but last night I was playing through Boralus and realized; all this shit looks the same
like on one wing of the quests you go up through Freehold and it just all looks identical. Same buildings, same layouts, everything
frail magnet
That's why people think the xpac is being rushed.
They are cutting the "dead period" between xpacs
and you can clearly see it.
tawny thunder
transmog came in mop, no? but i agree its pretty much the same recycled stuff only variable being the amount of effort, and that seems to be decreasing every expansion. I don't blame them though, they've got microtransactions to lean on and they've got rid of farming bots which was a major fiscal issue for them
nova basin
or release 'shitty' looking, but guaranteed stuff in the base content
and then 'color changed with difficulty' versions of supposedly better looking stuff in dungeons or raids.
tawny thunder
and since the vets/hardcore people quit the game they have to cater to the replacement demographic, which means they have to simplify the game in order to satisfy this group. Its a vicious loop
wraith hollow
WoD and legion did it right making mythic and elite pieces unique. Wish they would stop with the simple recolors. Mythic shouldn't be the exact same as LFR with the color being the only difference
terse field
I've been crying out for bigger, less-micro-focused zones for ages, but not like this. It's disappointing to see so many assets copy/pasted
other issue being all of boralus is night-mode discord grey/brown.
Vanilla wasn't simple at all--but what worked was simple. Everything else was broken
😄
To go back on private servers and re-play it first hand is pretty powerful
(even if you were there for live)
nova basin
vanilla wow had one big upside. they actually had many designs of gear, despite no transmog. at least for hanging out, you could still make a nice 'showroom' outfit.
terse field
You realize how much we take for granted now as baseline and "smart"
nova basin
i remember using titan bars
terse field
that was countered by the fact that so much of it looked bad, and had abysmally low res
lol
nova basin
or some more 'open source' UI bar system....something with n in the name.
alpine lynx
vanilla was abysmal for tmog, low resolution and many shared textures even across armor classes
nova basin
or, remember when you could grind rep in a 'put on playlist, get drunk, and get into doing it' way, with no 'welp, did your daily 10 quests, come back tomorrow!'?
terse field
http://www.wowhead.com/item=65973/fras-siabis-cigar-cutter
Still waiting on somebody in Art to remember this axe and give it a high-res update
G L O R I O U S
1 6 B I T
nova basin
or, before sets and blues, you could gather 'themed' gear pieces
for example, there was a mail set, 'crusader' or so. whose boots, on nelves at least, had some heels
not stiletto, but platform.
frail magnet
Best time for the look of your character was TBC leveling and no one can convince me otherwise.
nova basin
TBC and vanilla (true vanilla, not graphic rework) in genera
in LK, they began with the dreaded burkafication of females (instead of, you know, put it as an option), and the 'design everything for a human male, even if it is for a nelf druid'
thing is, i could understand the people who didn't want 'everything shows maximum skin' ....but instead making 'everything look shit'....not really fun.
terse field
I could handle the tradeoff because the artwork for class tiers improved consistently in quality, even if ppl didn't like the aesthetics of particular sets
tame mason
lets argue about people asking for Blizzard to make all Elite sets to be obtainable if you have the CR
terse field
But at this point BFA looks to be an absolute low-point for gear and player-centric art
@tame mason Personally idc if ppl get old shiny stuff. You can buy t3 off AH. Those ppl didn't run 40 naxx. Wahhhh. Whatever.
tame mason
fair enough
terse field
If prestiege is your game then current is relevant and the rest is old
And nobody reeeeeally cares
tame mason
but the more prestigious/unobtainable stuff i nthe game the better
nova basin
the old sets are also one reason why i prefer the 'base' classes.
tame mason
well if 'no one really cares' whats the difference between allowing someone to buy all the Elite sets, if they have the CR, and buying all the Gladiator mounts if they just got Glad for the first time
🤔
runic sparrow
Personally I don't care. I just like to look good, and if the set I want is unobtainable, it makes me a lil sad. Same thing with mounts. Idc if everyone else has the mount, as long as I do I'm happy. Make em all available all the time if you meet the requirements. Only people who really care just care too much about what other people think, and think it'll make them think less of them and their "uniqueness"
terse field
I mean it comes down to whether or not you take pride and place value in in-game accomplishments or not
I'm not going to tell people they're wrong to do that
But I personally think it's silly, and don't
tame mason
Well how much you value any accomplishment in life is up to you
be it in a video game or not
runic sparrow
Yeah exactly Don. I take pride in doing things in-game. But I don't care whether Joe Shmoe over there did it too. Or did his later than mine. I'm just happy I achieved something.
fervent mulch
So far bfa is Ion walking around your home with a hammer, looking at various objects in your home, and repeatedly asking “what about this one? Do you like this one?” And then smashing it with a hammer whenever you say yes
nova basin
for example, i actually started raiding. sure, pug raids only. but so far, i have been doing normal mode on EN, ToV, NH. and i LFR'd all wings of the other 2
i might not end up with curve, but i can at least say: i saw all cutscenes, saw all bosses
fervent mulch
Gotta get that spellwing though
nova basin
i got my velfy's ground birb, and the rogue raven. plus the mogyak
occasionally, i loot some special mount, sure.
tame mason
any of you guys play League of Legends? (this is relevant)
terse aurora
I used to
But then I heard WC3 got updated
tame mason
so what if you get Gold in the current season, but for getting Gold; you also get every past Season's Gold Summoner Icon
tame mason
Sounds ridiculous eh? That's what I see when someone argues about re-releasing old Elite sets
terse field
it's just pixels
fervent mulch
I don’t think anyone besides you cares
terse field
Longnoodle historically said he only cared about things being rare/hard to get, not if they actually look good
so it checks out
tame mason
i appreciate things that have value
terse field
And that's fine, but it's a minority
any value in there is subjective
which is everyone's point
fervent mulch
Also, I’ll say again, it’s pretty rich that the guy buying T3 on the BMAH because he didn’t EARN it during vanilla is lecturing us about how people shouldn’t be able to get stuff they didn’t earn
tame mason
the value from the T3 is only from the gold you spend on it
terse aurora
I'm half and half on the argument because I'm nearly done with all mage towers
Some of them look fucking dogshit but at least I've got them before they're removed
tame mason
it should only be unobtainable if it's past seasonal gear; allowed to be purchased because of a time and skill investment in a class
tame mason
I believe Mythic sets should be too
terse field
That's fine that you believe that. You're entitled to your opinions.
That's not the direction Blizz has gone. Consistently, anyway. xmog is anything but consistent.
But understand that many people don't place any value on old stuff in WoW.
fervent mulch
How much of an eleitist asshole do you have to be to expect that the 80% of the playerbase not having mythic on farm by end of expansion should be blocked off from the sets with the most work put into them
tame mason
well theyd obviously have to come up with a method for allowing not only 0.01% of the player base to have it
because most sets are only completeable by killing the last boss
fervent mulch
THEY DO
tame mason
if they were to make Mythic sets unobtainable
fervent mulch
ITS CALLED COMPLETING IT IN A LATER EXPANSION
tame mason
is what im talking about
terse field
This is a pointless argument--let's end it
terse aurora
Isn't that what cutting edge achieves?
Longnoodle?
And to a lesser extent the mounts that become 0.1%
1%
tame mason
yeah for sure
terse field
It is painfully obvious that
- Currently, mythic sets are obtainable after content is relevant
- There's inconsistency in xmog rules and goals
- Some people value in-game achievements, others don't.
tame mason
im comparing unobtainable Elite sets to Mythic sets still being obtainable
terse field
There's no point in comparing. It's arbitrary.
If we applied logic either both would be obtainable or neither would.
Hence why this is a circular and silly argument
tame mason
a lot of people do compare those things is a big arguement for the people that say past Elite sets should be obtainable
fervent mulch
Getting 2k should unlock all previous elite sets
tame mason
youre wrong
terse field
You believe Mythic shouldn't be obtainable. That's the equal and opposite argument.
terse field
So are the mythic raids.
tame mason
yeah i know
fervent mulch
You’re an eleitist who wants to feel special by depriving others of stuff so that you can feel better than them
terse aurora
I agree with Macky on that one
The Warrior transformers set is my favourite in game yet I'll never get it
terse field
Long, I can literally reverse every one of your arguments.
You need to just accept that there's no right/wrong in this argument, just different (opposite) opinions.
Hence why we should move on
fervent mulch
Because you’re not secure enough in yourself to enjoy the game unless you have something someone else doesn’t
tame mason
that's why I also argue that they should somehow make the Mythic sets only available if you complete X achievement to get the set once the raid tier ends
terse field
You already said that
And again
We should move on
for the third and final time
Thank you.
fervent mulch
Mute me for 5 mins don
tame mason
lmao
fervent mulch
I’m boutta snap
terse field
You don't need a mute
fervent mulch
HOLD ME BACK DON
fervent mulch
Next level idea, only grant the armor to people who didn’t do the content
terse field
my spirit animal is a screaming parakeet these days
"AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH"
fervent mulch
If you never set foot in antorus you get mailed all 4 recolors at the end of the season. If you ever stepped foot inside you’re inellegible to learn mogs
tame mason
Let's open up the Mage Tower appearances once Legion ends too
terse aurora
Okay no
fervent mulch
Sure why not, I already earned them and I don’t fucking care if someone else can too. Just scale the difficulty to 120
terse aurora
Okay maybe If they scale it
terse field
if anything they'll be harder
tame mason
i agree if they scale it
terse field
because you wont' have artifacts/etc that you had currently
marble scarab
Wtb sin appearances for sub
fervent mulch
Outlaw mage tower master race
tawny thunder
i think at this point in the game, people should be able to garner old appearance sets and perhaps some of the unobtainable mounts and so on. But in general, preserving certain items that took great effort to achieve isn't detrimental to a game.
terse aurora
Werebear god race
tame mason
reeee
iron creek
What even is this discussion?
terse field
I don't know
tame mason
don't ask
nova basin
hey, while we at that point...why not go further, especially with the master looter drama
terse field
last word
runic sparrow
It's Monday.
iron creek
hahahah
terse field
gottem
iron creek
last word
runic sparrow
The Last Word.
nova basin
instead of switching to PL instead of ML, make NL
nova basin
NL being short for 'No Loot'
terse aurora
Sub mage tower is terrible
nova basin
due to too much bitching, NO ONE is getting any loot.
terse field
some folks do argue for removing gear stats from the game
only keeping appearances
¯_(ツ)_/¯
iron creek
whaaaaa
runic sparrow
"Yours…not mine." - Renegade Hunter Shin Malphur to Dredgen Yor
terse field
makes balance/scaling/etc easier
iron creek
that fucked my brain too
nova basin
or a system like Guildwars 1
terse field
Well
Seeing as we're completely off-topic now anyway
Here's a question:
Why do we level from 110 to 120 in BFA?
nova basin
an easy to reach 'hard cap', and from then on, only looks.
solar wedge
I'm going to post a transmog is that ok
tawny thunder
but it has mainly to do with the game dying and if enhanced looks would provide some source of excitement due to lack of innovation, never a bad thing
solar wedge
don't wanna like split this up
tame mason
For more transmog
terse field
takes out umbrella to catch brain spatters
@solar wedge for the love of god please post
terse aurora
Max level coded in game is 255
Can't see that happening
solar wedge
Right so this was my idea
everybody knows if you can't see the enemy they can't see you
thus
flawless transmog
tawny thunder
set
nova basin
edgy~
terse aurora
Tbf it's a full set but almost nothing works with it
solar wedge
yes I know just
tame mason
memeelf
iron creek
how could you just remove gear from a game where one of the main goals is to gear
solar wedge
permit me the blindfold meme I came up with it today
iron creek
tho
terse aurora
*No other piece works with it