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run PREP again after you delete it to generate a new one
jeez 500?
i mean
you can buy a kit
but it doesnt take the assembly and the tuning out of it
still gotta get it working
true
you just dont have to try source parts is all really
guess im going to rip out tray 1 and start over
in the end, i might end up taking mine apart and selling it as a kit lol
espesically if i cant get it working reliably
since well, before all this my printer was 100% reliable
i was yet to have a failed print in over 160 hours of print time and hadnt really done anything to it, it was basically as it was out of the box and print quality was great, speed was pretty darn good and well yeah no failed prints lol
lol
Im getting to the point I might just sell this one
if you can get it working go for it, if not i mean yeah its whether or not you want to spend the time and effort to make it work
and i still dont know if someone has a 100% reliable BT.... like always reliable other than maybe consistently timed maintenance? like blade replacements for cutter or trigger replacements from simply lifetime
Most of the beta serials funnily...
zero issues whatsoever once setup?
just runs and works and thats it?
Correct
Both of my betas are running the current release extruders and hubs
They were just beta before going public
well, then they arent technically beta now since the main thing id say, is the extruders, and then the hub
heck I cant even get one working
everything else is more aesthetic/ design changes (for the new parts to fit), not mechanical or reliability upgrades afaik?
Basically
Run the BT_PREP macro
got it
chances certainly are if i cant get this working fully reliably when i switch to potentially post extruder cutter in future, or 100% reliable as it is now...... eventually ill probably just take it apart andd sell it lol
Just build a machine
Microns are pretty cheap
ehhhhhhhhhhhhh, how much
I just bought a kit for under $500
think i might sell this and get a micron +
thats a bit over what i paid for my q1 pro still lol
hoenstly from what I've seen of the unboxing the LDO kit isn't going to make the build much more easy other than they've sourced some extra stuff
for MUCH less bed area
yes i know
yuppp
i have two v2 350mm now
Everything is pre-wired to length, and sourced everything for cutters and stuff
the only way you can make things more easy, is if you were to sell PRE-ASSEMBLED kits
It's an afternoon build with the LDO kit
yeah the wiring will be easier I guess
Not just easier, plug and play
yeah he just means wiring
Wiring is plug and play
yeah
i mean my wiring was plug and play :p since i did them all while stuff was arriving lmfao
even on the switch sides etc? just plug in? no soldering needed?
I've built all my wiring inside the turtle
Yes
And LEDs too
I did al lthe soldering on the two vorons and the turtle
well thats nice at least, people can save money with not needing to buy a soldering iron
Still need an iron to press the heatsets
ah
dang
atp i would end up doing the wires anyways, considering i was able to do 80% of it while other parts were arriving when i self sourced
lol
i was gonna build a press, but.... ehhhhhh i ordered a tip set and personally thats gonna be enough for me, easy enough to put in straight even when i didnt use a proper heatset tip
lol
no worries me too, i keep running into issues
hope they come out with the drawer for thefull size one, supposedly the guy is workign on it
for the heatpress?
yeah
just.... design a clip on base lol
stealthpress
with a drawer
that is the fullsize one
meh, aint nobody got time for that
oh ok
did someone else design one? cause I know the mini one has it
yes its on printables
if i had the dimensions i could do it in likeeeee half an hour at most happy to do it sometime tomorrow
with a handle too
ah ok
thunder has a different heat press that looks really cool, wish I built that one lol
ah noice ppl did already do it then
nice
I think I have just decided to postpone the project....
I need the printer more then the MMU
yeah that ones sweet
thats awesome
I commented alll the code for the BT and removed it
have xmas stuff to print
ill stick it on the other v2 instead with the NH
I keep looking at thunderkeys heatpress i like the base of it
you design that yourself I take it
Its a VLMP 2 I believe
Any luck yet ?
yea
Nah, i got pretty far on the serial 3 colour but no dice
But its 2am now
Turned printer off at midnight
think im done with it for the time being .... removed al lthe code. Wasn't making any headway at all
Got Xmas stuff printed so turned BT back on. Will replace sd card with nvme drive to see if that resolves all my ttc errors
Whooo
Thanks Belial
I really hope it fixes it
Me too
@lean zealot Im re-installing now. I may need some help if ok with you
I copied all the cfg's. BT not doing anything
its not seeing the AFC
I re-installed via the wizard and then copied over the config
👍
i think reflash should fix it but if not try another cable. i have goten damaged usb cables before
Mike, does it show up under ls /dev/serial/by-id?
If it shows there then something else is wrong
It does show up there?
Yes
Yes
Yes
I should be home around 9 or 930
I tried over writing afc folders with old config
One that was working
ok Im back
mcu 'turtleneck': Unable to connect
Once the underlying issue is corrected, use the
"FIRMWARE_RESTART" command to reset the firmware, reload the
config, and restart the host software.
Error configuring printer
what info do you need
config files to start I would say
trying to zip it up now
d/l button just circling
Well guess not tonight printer now is not booting
i think its time to junk this voron
Ok that escalated quickly, what changed?
this printer has too many issues
not worth fighting anymore
i have a 2nd voron I start over on that one
not booting to nvme again
You have a hat on the pi with a m.2 drive?
NO USB to NMVE
Can the pi provide enough power to power the drive and the itself? Might be blowing buck converter’s here
I've never had good luck booting pis off usb
If I where u. Just use sdcards.
im just going to exchnage out the electronics on this voron down the road
they are all original parts and my 1st Voron.
on 4th sd card on this printer now
Picking up a pi4 today
Out of curiosity, are the power supplies tied together on ground?
(specifically, V- not so much ground)
i think it was this thread, but ive had this again for once now even after doing the trsync changes
happened when trying to test load lane 4
it got to the hub, didnt even attempt the long move, and shutdown
as in, it quite literally shutdown/ "failed to load" the second it engaged the hub switch
Whats your klipper host?
modified mks pi with an onboard STM32F402
Lets not hijack Mike's thread guys.
1Tb doesn't like
guess 256g one worked
now who would like to help me to get this going
😛
well of course
Strange If I write mainsail ( bulleseye I can boot, If I write PI OS lite 64 Putty will not cvonnect which is bookworm
If its stock debian SSH isn't enabled by default
I know that I enabled it
ok have new SD card this time
lets see if I can get something going
Unknown config object 'AFC'
Once the underlying issue is corrected, use the "RESTART"
command to reload the config and restart the host software.
Printer is halted
Fresh klipper install, just dropped your configs in?
Just want to make sure, did you re-install the AFC klipper add on?
Did you make sure that your CAN ids are correct in your configs?
all my cfs whan dropping over are blank
hmm??
open up TN2 file after dropping in mailsail its blank
Is it just TN2?
no all files
so Ill havew to search github hopefully I cn find the last copy that was working after you asll fix ed it
thar was proablly a week or so ago
open and copied al lteh cfg files one by one and still nothing
un happy turtle for sure
hmm
I might just wait for the VVD and quit bothering ppl with this
No no
Let's get this working
How are you trying to move your configs onto the printer?
Into the web browser?
Can you try copying them in with WinSCP?
Can you open a config over winscp to make sure the config is actually there?
In printer.cfg comment out the [include AFC/*.cfg]
Let's get the printer going first
did a search for device by id
Already checking that ..thanks
oh it crapped out for the canbus network Can0
ill redo the sdcard from scratch
cant re-create the interfaces.d/can0
don't know but I feel like I'm bothering ppl to much on this and maybe I should just take a pause on this for awhile.
I just think we'd make more progress on getting you a working printer/box turtle if we stopped starting from scratch each time and instead iterated on solving the actual individual problems.
well I did havea bad sd card ..kinda had to start over
should of been able to just copy that whole sd to a new sd and still been where you started off.
if you had a backup anyways
anyways what's done is done
but please let us know when you've got a base install and we can go through getting the base printer up, then worry about boxturtle/afc. one step at a time.
Now that i have fresh install and happy BT and a fresh back up too
nice!
so, now see if the rest of it works, loading filament to the toolhead, doing manual toolchanges
I sdee it made it ti the filament detector
not sure if it made it to the g2e properly
Warning: No buffer defined in config file
yes
then you gotta go in there and uncomment TN2 and set the pin I think
all ready did
or you have to put in the serial ID maybe\
already did
i forget, @hidden plank?
hitting t0
did it load this time?
trying now
heating up
i noticed that when rebooting printer its unloading a bitt too much then I have to refeed 1-3mm each time
but its feeing right now
10:10 PM
Must home axis first: 297.000 290.000 0.000 [72.000]
10:10 PM
Must home axis first: 297.000 290.000 0.000 [72.000]
10:10 PM
Must home axis first: 297.000 290.000 0.000 [72.000]
10:10 PM
Must home axis first: 297.000 290.000 0.000 [72.000]
after loading filament to the tool head
did you home be fore you did t0?
no
ha, yeah. need to home
thats probaly why
i did the same thing
yeah it does unload a bit when doing prep
you can turn bootup prep off and I think you can adjust how much it spins too
klipper crashed
not sure how to do that
klipper totaly crashed
sooo many issues
other voron Brrrr just fine
rebooted
send moonraker.log/klippy.log
2024-11-22 22:52:09,679 [common.py:build_error()] - JSON-RPC Request Error - Requested Method: printer.gcode.script, Code: 400, Message: Extrude below minimum temp
See the 'min_extrude_temp' config option for details
2024-11-22 22:52:13,611 [server.py:_handle_term_signal()] - Exiting with signal SIGTERM
looks like it's not heating up to temp before doing things
ok, no, it's maybe something else
Internal error on command:"LANE_UNLOAD"
Once the underlying issue is corrected, use the
"FIRMWARE_RESTART" command to reset the firmware, reload the
config, and restart the host software.
Printer is shutdown
Internal error on command:"LANE_UNLOAD"
Internal error on command:"BT_LANE_EJECT"
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/home/pi/klipper/klippy/gcode.py", line 211, in _process_commands
handler(gcmd)
File "/home/pi/klipper/klippy/gcode.py", line 137, in <lambda>
func = lambda params: origfunc(self._get_extended_params(params))
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
File "/home/pi/klipper/klippy/extras/gcode_macro.py", line 189, in cmd
self.template.run_gcode_from_command(kwparams)
File "/home/pi/klipper/klippy/extras/gcode_macro.py", line 68, in run_gcode_from_command
self.gcode.run_script_from_command(self.render(context))
File "/home/pi/klipper/klippy/gcode.py", line 226, in run_script_from_command
self._process_commands(script.split('\n'), need_ack=False)
File "/home/pi/klipper/klippy/gcode.py", line 211, in _process_commands
handler(gcmd)
File "/home/pi/klipper/klippy/gcode.py", line 137, in <lambda>
func = lambda params: origfunc(self._get_extended_params(params))
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
File "/home/pi/klipper/klippy/extras/AFC.py", line 484, in cmd_LANE_UNLOAD
CUR_LANE = self.printer.lookup_object('AFC_stepper '+ lane)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
File "/home/pi/klipper/klippy/klippy.py", line 79, in lookup_object
raise self.config_error("Unknown config object '%s'" % (name,))
configparser.Error: Unknown config object 'AFC_stepper leg0'
so what are you doing when it crashes?
im on vacation in a few weeks maybe I have some better time to sit and mess with all the issue
just too many quirks
it's perhaps maybe a bad time to try to get things working tonight
as they are doiung some major updates to the AFC addon which are going to require further config chagnes
yea maybe Ill jut wait till after the holidays
I wont touch a thing
Ineed to dry some filament anyway
over here @dense sequoia if you want to work on this
send an updated config.zip file over
I was looking for the bowden length
found it
Yep, [AFC_hub Turtle_1] has it
filament stopping 200mm above the SB \
Try, SET_BOWDEN_LENGTH LENGTH=+200
already on it
how far is the G2E additional
i opened the tension almost all the way open
which is the proper command to re-wind filament
bt_unload_tool should rewind it properly
ill give is a shot I was using eject
noticed that kliper not showing filament sensor now either even though I have the pin defined in pin start tool
It doesn't show anymore
Oh i was usingit as a guide for the filament when it hit
and as a indicator if the switch went bad
mainsail integration will add that status back
3:04 PM
Turtle_1 Status
LANE | Prep | Load | Hub | Tool |
LEG1 | <--> | <--> | x | xx |
LEG2 | <--> | <--> | x | xx |
LEG3 | <--> | <--> | x | xx |
LEG4 | <--> | <--> | x | xx |
so what do you mean rewind the spool
none of your spools are loaded to the toolhead
or even the hub
leg 1 I just ran the t0 command ran the filament to the filament sensor
then I ran the status
but yoru hub sensor is not triggered
Turtle_1 Status
LANE | Prep | Load | Hub | Tool |
LEG1 | <--> | <--> | <-> | <--> |
LEG2 | <--> | <--> | x | xx |
LEG3 | <--> | <--> | x | xx |
LEG4 | xx | xx | x | xx |
that's what it should look like when loaded
also check the afc_hardware.cfg and make sure hte hub switch is defined to where you have it plugged in on teh afc lite board.
hasnt changed
will check connectivity
ill have to remove hub wires are connected
so maybe a stuck ball but I can hear it clicking
6:40 PM
LANE | Prep | Load | Hub | Tool |
LEG1 | xx | xx | x | xx |
LEG2 | xx | xx | x | xx |
LEG3 | <--> | xx | x | xx |
LEG4 | xx | xx | x | xx |```
leg 3 has no filament
Your leg is stuck
also ran filament in the snappy hub still no not sensing
I think its time to give up this has been nothing but trouble/issues
this will never get one single print
now leg2 is stuck
not going to say another word about it
thanks for being patient though
fixed leg2 by replacing broken blade from switch ...put new switch on. Now have to figure out the HUB switch not working
Pulled hub apart. then pushed switch doesn't change status
dumb question, is the hub using the d2f-l switch as well?
and when you push filament through it, do you hear the switch activate at all?
yes pull switchout of HUB chaeck status with Switch pushed in manual
So possiable bad switch
i mean, it was just working though not that long ago. i mean i guess its possible if you used cheap china switches. but i doubt that. but then again you had a broken blade on a switch, which also seems odd
omes that came with kit
oh you got a kit. nice. those are legit.
do you have another switch on hand? i mean easy to remove the hub one and re solder a new one on
checked switch ol with switch not depressed ..with depressed reading 2.4
yes i found 1
if you switch that out, don't just toss that switch. im not fully sure the switch is borked
but im also not sure what the readings should be on the switches. Im very new to electrical stuff
all the filament sensor switches should also have pullups (^) in the config
ok, just making sure
thanks
Turtle_1 Status
LANE | Prep | Load | Hub | Tool |
LEG1 | xx | xx | x | xx |
LEG2 | xx | xx | x | xx |
LEG3 | xx | xx | x | xx |
LEG4 | xx | xx | x | xx |
stil no filament detected in Hub with new switch
work if manually triggered?
like feed filament back into hub from outside and see if it triggers?
I can here it clicking when putting filamentin and out
if not, are you 100% sure switch is wired/working properly?
from, the hub
have a multimeter to test and verify?
ok - so in the config
just asking for other to chime in on. On the 20th you posted a pic of your System Load which showed all the versions on the different boards. Could possibly the differing versions causing some issues. mcu on v0.11, AFC on v0.12.0-349, SB204 on -113, TN on -358 and main on -378
I keep all of mine on the same revision, just to be sure there are no cross-compatible issue
not 100% sure if that can cause issues but is a possibility
👍
always better safe.. never too many backup copies
When you checked the switch Mike, was it at the connector youre plugging into the afc? Is it possible its a broken wire? Wrong pins in the plug?
yes it was plugged into the hub port
nothing has changed
except the software
version
Does the alias for this pin still match the physical pin you have it plugged in to?
You should have 2 free pins, have you tried a different one to verify if its the pin?
Before you try another one though be 100% sure the pin out is correct
Do you still have that test file we had you put in to test all your switches?
let me look
Oh that sounds more productive lol
Let's kick the AFC stuff out and just test switches
yes i have it
Ok comment out AFC and test the switches
[include AFC/test-afc.cfg] if it is in the AFC folder
when you say AFC root do you mean its AFC/test-afc.cfg?
So what mrwizx said here is correct then, your inclide should be [include AFC/test-afc.cfg]
Once the underlying issue is corrected, use the "RESTART"
command to reload the config and restart the host software.
Printer is halted``` now I have this ...when I added [include AFC/test-afc.cfg]
I didnt create a 2nd AFC folder
done
Were you able to test the switches Mike?
yes ...brand new switch
You have a pullup on it right?
a simple thing to test would be just swap it with antoher endstop and see if hte problem moves.
my money would be on a bad crimp on the connector over a bad port
taking a break .... have other things to get done
sure
bad switch? Should be completely open circuit and 0 ohm at closed
I mean, anything other than ol across then to ol when pressed should indicate the switch is fine
can you take a picture out of curiosity of where you are plugging it into?
So it would be a bit of a pain, but you could also always take the AFC-Lite out of the BT, and check for continuity on the backside of the switch
il pass on that.
Might try and r uninstall and reinstall
if that fails just get another board or use BTT MMB
Have you tried just swapping it to another port?
have you tried....not using can and just using it USB? lol
Came here to say the same thing (port swapping) lol
i feel like your simpliest option here
swap sw1 and sw2
swap the pins in the config
does the problem move
I'm behind on where you are but just thinking out loud cause last I knew you were using can lol
actually it was loading the other day so I assume it's something else now lol
Port is bad
Switch port 1 and 2
guess Ill be looking at a board replacement down the road
how do you have so much hardware fail? lol
you got super dirty electricity over there or something?
whi knows bad luck
meh I dont' really believe in luck lol gotta be something else
Move to other ports. You should have 3 open
1 port dead others will follow
sadly those APC surge protectors dont' really condition power much. So if you were having power issues that wouldn't help only protect against surges
electronics don't hvae STDs
I know that ..
anyways - moving to a different endstop port will let you move forward
and ti coudl be easily swapped out for a replacement later, possibly even fixed
mabye it's a weak solder joint or something, who knows
@frank forge yea well it happens I guess
LANE | Prep | Load | Hub | Tool |
LEG1 | <--> | xx | x | xx |
LEG2 | xx | xx | x | xx |
LEG3 | xx | xx | x | xx |
LEG4 | xx | xx | x | xx |```
push in switch and the leg 1 trying to pull in filament
and thart was after switch sw1 and sw2
perhaps the motor is running backwareds
i feel like we swapped that in the past but if the cofhnig was redone because of the upgrade it may need redoing
(just update dir_pin to hvae a ! if it oesn't have one or remove if it does)
checked hub the two left pins with printer off and uplugged reading 10.02 continuity for the hub port
left is the NC and middle is ground
when you moved it to port 2 it worked?
if so. Put the original PREP1 switch back in SW2. Put HUB in like SW12. then update config to point the pin defintion and see if it all works there...
7:29 PM
LANE | Prep | Load | Hub | Tool |
LEG1 | <--> | <--> | x | xx |
LEG2 | <--> | <--> | x | xx |
LEG3 | <--> | <--> | x | xx |
LEG4 | <--> | <--> | x | xx |```
No Hub
re-wired whole BT
all new switches
That is what I would expect to see if filament is just loaded
I ran t0 to the tool head
LANE | Prep | Load | Hub | Tool |
LEG1 | <--> | <--> | x | xx |
LEG2 | xx | xx | x | xx |
LEG3 | <--> | <--> | x | xx |
LEG4 | <--> | <--> | x | xx |``` This is legs 1,3,4
Is your toolhead sensor triggering?
I used to have a icon for it but not anymore
put something like ```
[duplicate_pin_override]
pins: nhk:gpio13
[filament_switch_sensor toolhead]
switch_pin: nhk:gpio13```
but swap it for the right pin
that will let it show up
under afc extruder ?
just in your printer.cfg or wherever. It isn't AFC specific
gotcha
it just says it is ok if a pin is defined twice
Unable to parse option 'initial_BLUE' in section 'neopixel caselight'
after making that change
rebooting
make sure it isn't in the middle of another section
must have been a space
says filamemt sensor is empty
let me check that
hit T0 print head slammed in front left
wow
make sure your positions in the AFC_Macro_vars.cfg are valid for your printer
yea all look fine 350mm
Are your sensors working? That is the most important thing to get working first
is it flickering? Or is it a reliable change?
stable
what about the hub? Just take the pfte out of the back of the box turtle in put in piece of filament to trigger it
LANE | Prep | Load | Hub | Tool |
LEG1 | <--> | <--> | x | xx |
LEG2 | <--> | <--> | x | xx |
LEG3 | <--> | <--> | x | xx |
dead still
Type: Box_Turtle
afc_bowden_length: 1180 # Length of the Bowden tube from the hub to the toolhead sensor in mm.
move_dis: 50 # Distance to move the filament within the hub in mm.
cut: False # Hub has Cutter
#--=================================================================================--
#------- Hub Cut ---------------------------------------------------------------------
#--=================================================================================--
cut_cmd: AFC # CMD to use
cut_dist: 200 # How much filament to cut off (in mm).
cut_clear: 120 # How far the filament should retract back from the hub (in mm).
cut_servo_name: cut # Servos name in configuration to use
cut_min_length: 300.0
cut_servo_pass_angle: 10 # Servo angle to align the Bowden tube with the hole for loading the toolhead.
cut_servo_clip_angle: 180 # Servo angle for cutting the filament.
cut_servo_prep_angle: 80 # Servo angle to prepare the filament for cutting (aligning the exit hole).
switch_pin: ^AFC:HUB```
You need the hub to be working. Last night you mentioned it worked if you had it on a different port?
PC4 is the AFC:HUB definition
alias shows pc4
yes, it is also SW1
what happens if you move it to an open port? and then just use like switch_pin: ^AFC:SW<whatever>
haven't tried anothr port
so Ill try sw12
and change the HUB = PE13
still no hub
LANE | Prep | Load | Hub | Tool |
LEG1 | <--> | <--> | x | xx |
LEG2 | <--> | <--> | x | xx |
LEG3 | <--> | xx | x | xx |
LEG4 | <--> | <--> | x | xx |
Disconnect the hub switch, measure continuity at the JST connector and trigger the switch
Measure it on that part
and it changes if you take the filament out?
no
Then your switch isn't physically triggering
I can hear it clicking
Well, if you can hear it click, but the continuity isn't changing from open to closed (or vice versa), then there is an issue
either the switch is bad, the wire is bad, the solder is bad, or the crimp is bad
put hub on desk put probes on + on NC side and -on C npw getting filament in 0l filament out0.0.0.0
put it in beep mode
you should be able to engage/disengage the switch and confirm the beeping starts/stops
like 10 times off/on
What changed to make it work?
Check that your ball bearing isn't stuck in the hub
yes before putting it back in
same way I checked the extruders
If i get this going Im going to drink my butt off
Ok, I'm out for the evening, good luck!
Nite
Turtle_1 Status
LANE | Prep | Load | Hub | Tool |
LEG1 | <--> | <--> | <-> | <--> |
LEG2 | <--> | <--> | x | xx |
LEG3 | <--> | <--> | x | xx |
LEG4 | <--> | <--> | x | xx |
finally
now for tip forming , might take me 6 months
is there a visual over ride to look at these stats in klipper instead of the console
{printer ip}/printer/objects/query?AFC
mainsail/fluidd integration with AFC are coming soon
what happens if you heat the extruder up to print temp and do BT_LANE_UNLOAD
at 150 temp right now
bumped to 175 Move out of range: 570.000 335.000 14.014 [-4.000] 10:22 PM Move out of range: 570.000 335.000 14.014 [-4.000] 10:22 PM Move out of range: 570.000 335.000 14.014 [-4.000] 10:22 PM Move out of range: 570.000 335.000 14.014 [-4.000]
post your AFC_Macro_Vars.cfg
you can also try issuing a G90 first, then BT_LANE_UNLOAD again.
or hwtever the unload command is
BT_TOOL_UNLOAD? BT_UNLOAD_TOOL? i autocomplete it 🙂
g90 then unload worked
ok, so something is putting it into relative mode
but not putting it back to absolute
didnt fully unload it
AFC-TIP-FORM: Step 2: Cooling Moves
10:27 PM
AFC-TIP-FORM: Step 1: Retraction & Nozzle Separation
10:27 PM
AFC_Park: Park Toolhead
10:27 PM
Rotation distance reset : 4.65```
snapped the filament
got it al lcleared out
LEG4 LOCKED AND LOADED
10:35 PM
LEG3 LOCKED AND LOADED
10:35 PM
LEG2 LOCKED AND LOADED
10:35 PM
LEG1 LOCKED AND LOADED
10:35 PM
Error on filament trying to correct```
whats it mean by error on filament
When you rebooted the config files showed that a lane was loaded but your toolhead sensor was not triggered, AFC should of unloaded the lane until the load sensor was not trigger
possible to write some KB or How too's in manual for troubleshooting in the future
of course
Of course
Where you are now?
homeing / qgl
Testing each lane
tool head now keeps slamming from left when hitting another lane
mike do you have the toolhead cutting enabled??
I thought i diabled it but maybe not
I told it false when it ask for toolhead cutting
HUB NOT CLEAR TRYING TO LOAD LEG2```
its empty
LANE | Prep | Load | Hub | Tool |
LEG1 | <--> | <--> | x | xx |
LEG2 | <--> | <--> | x | xx |
LEG3 | <--> | <--> | x | xx |
LEG4 | <--> | <--> | x | xx |```
wonder if something is up with the switch
It’s probably some stringy tip stuck in the hub
how do i checked the status of the TN2 I have no Leds at all now
pretty sure there's a way but I don't know it lol.
well i have rebooted 3 times and No leds
Verified the serial number
not sure if its even working or not
QUERY_BUFFER BUFFER=<your buffer name>
Just calling it a night
The only way you're a pain at all is when you decide to just restart all the time lol
a lot easier to work from problems then scratch a lot of the time
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Maybe I can get some help on tip forming since I have no ideal setting hat up tonight. thanks
Try the built in one, if that doesn’t work I know there’s a couple of better tip forming macros floating about
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Going to give a test print. Hopefully nothing goes wrong
Whoooo!
QGL right now
But with g2e who knows
Failed already
No filament flowing
Leg1 roll doing absolutely nothing. Filament detected in toolhead
What? are pigs flying?
using the wrong celebration
So its moving like its printing but youre getting no filament?
correct
did it push into the extrrduer or no movment from turtle?
well getting close at least
i got the filament it appears to the g2e
g2e was a pain in the ass for me
oop, I hope its not stuck in the toolhead
g2E was also a nightmare for me,
But mike doesnt have filametrix though.
that made it worse so many clogs lol
Yeah its shouldnt be too bad sans filametrix
Mike can you try to do BT_TOOL_UNLOAD?
Hm.
Are you able to remove the PTFE ? Are we certain the filament is in the extruder?
Ok lets figure out why we cant extrude or unload
If you reinsert it, heat your hot end, and hit the extrude button at 100mm what's it do?
ok hold
Do it slow, like 2mm/s3
feed rate I put it aT 1 FOR NOW
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The motor doesnt turn or anything when you call an extrude?
So it is moving
I haven't seen the spool move at all
But with the hot end at temperature youre getting nothing out of the nozzle?
OK for our sanity, do you have a scrap peice you can feed in manually while holding the g2e open to see if it will extrude?
Did you print ABS before this?
ASA
OK so you probably have that in your nozzle
You may need to heat to 260 or so and purge it
50mm
ok, hitting it 2x still doesnt get you any filament?
nope
No noise from the extruder stepper?
none
So before reinstalling AFC and whatnot?
Yes
Just trying to figure out what direction we need to go in.
:50 PM
LEG1 LOCKED AND LOADED
error in ToolHead. Extruder loaded with no lane identified
Oh, that's why
Ahaaa!
Eject lane 1
Manually remove it from the toolhead
Running the Eject command does not run the tool head extruder
Im trying too. The ecass wont let the filament come out at all
got it
Rebooting printer
too see if the bt eject wiull pull filament back
ok its re-winding now
You'll have to reload the lane
He's using filatector
Ahh
Steath burner and UHF hotend
Are you still heating for PLA with the ASA in the nozzle?
How far above the toolhead is the filatector?
OK, your tool_stn is 140 you said?
Ok that should be OK then. Have you tried extruding since you heated to 265?
OK, I wonder if you just have a clogged nozzle
I can checked that
Ill have to check that tomorrow didnt realize its almost midnight
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also with g2e filament path is very important you need it to go straight down without an angle to prevent jams at the gears of g2e i have mine park tool head at the front because that’s where the ptfe tube is less curved for me but your mileage may vary
you got this mike 🫡
this is what mine looks and it works well
@olive field Ill change the angle of the ptfe tube tonight maybe you can help me.with it if you have time of course
of course i'll be happy to help let me know when you have time
in the meantime i'll also say i have chamfered my PTFE on the inside of my nozzle unit so that it will not jam once it went past
the galileo2 i am using capricorn tubing but i guess any will do it...
Im using Capricorn also on the inside
@olive field Around 5pm est. But might be earlier if I get off work early
@olive field ok Im home if available
just shoot up
huh
Just checking in
We’re at a point now where BT is getting filament to the toolhead, and now we need to get the toolhead stuff sorted for you?
yes
oh right, how tight do you have the galilleo 2 ?
cause you want it not super super tight otherwise you'll have problems
I have the tension screw 2 turns to be tightended
Getting tension just right on the G2e should be your biggest hurdle now then
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like fully tightened down ?
that's a bit much
I had mine as far out as it would go without coming loose during a print lol
same
yeah... that's too much
when i ran g2e i threaded it on until it 'just' engaged and then did like one or two turns
I would back it out all the way, turn in until the spring touches, then put just a touch of tension on it so the spring holds the screw tight.
Ok
It will get tighter on its own when filament moves the extruder over as it enters.
Better
yup
G@e isnt bad, its just too good lol
nozzle is cleared
dose your extruder not move or?
Is there an error again?
Are you able to cut a piece of it off and freely run this filament through your hot end now?
how tight are the springs on the bt. mine did that when they where to tight
Not really tight
Might loosen the a 1/2 turn
Filament shaken back b forth when extruding
Do you have a buffer installed
You did that by hand or it finallty extruded?
Extruded
So no more jerking?
No using klipper ill make a vid
Right, you said the filament was shaking back and fourth, did it stop doing that once it extruded?
Thats just from the fan.
I thought you meant the filament coming in from the box turtle.
No
OK - Fantastic then You're loaded to the toolhead and ready to print
I don't have a cutter
You have a Rapido you said?
Rappidiocv2 uhf
You can probably use Zarboz's config then and have pretty good results
Ill have to hit him up
Hold on its been posted a bunch let me find it
Mike, does your snappy work or do we still need to look at that?
Snappy doesn't work at all
I think we need to configure it, pretty sure it was fixed in software
OK Lets do that before we try a print then.
I removed the data connection wire. Since I couldn't even get it too cut /move
We should be able to do some stuff with it now
Ok let me hook the data pin up
Did you find it
I have it saved in my sever if not
ok I have the cutter daya pin connected
[gcode_macro FORM_TIP]
gcode:
SAVE_GCODE_STATE NAME=FORMTIPSTATE
G91
G0 E15 F360
G0 E5 F3600
G0 E-22 F3600
G0 E2 F300
G0 E-2.1 F300
G0 E2 F300
G0 E-2.2 F300
G0 E2 F300
G0 E-2.3 F300
G0 E2 F300
G0 E-2.4 F300
G0 E2 F300
G0 E-2.5 F300
G0 E2 F300
G0 E-43 F300
G90
RESTORE_GCODE_STATE NAME=FORMTIPSTATE
The actual gcode replaces the gcode in the afc stuff
I’m not on pc to get exact file it’s in
AFC.cfg
That one
Just move the gcode over, keep the same function name
Otherwise you gotta change it somewhere else
yea tool cut settings
I have about 30 min then I ll be back around 9:30 or so
clicked on afc cut macro ..got error 5:18 PM
Error evaluating 'gcode_macro AFC_CUT:gcode': ValueError: not enough values to unpack (expected 2, got 0)
It might not be enabled properly?
I Dont know
You can't comment out the tool_cut: False
I just saw that
I turned that to true
In afc did you rename it?
yep - you need form_tip_cmd: FORM_TIP to use that macro
form_tip: True # Enable Tip Form.
form_tip_cmd: AFC
form_tip_cmd: FORM_TIP
# AFC is default routine. Name to custom macro if you prefer
[gcode_macro FORM_TIP]
gcode:
SAVE_GCODE_STATE NAME=FORMTIPSTATE
G91
G0 E15 F360
G0 E5 F3600
G0 E-22 F3600
G0 E2 F300
G0 E-2.1 F300
G0 E2 F300
G0 E-2.2 F300
G0 E2 F300
G0 E-2.3 F300
G0 E2 F300
G0 E-2.4 F300
G0 E2 F300
G0 E-2.5 F300
G0 E2 F300
G0 E-43 F300
G90
RESTORE_GCODE_STATE NAME=FORMTIPSTATE```
comment out you form_tip_cmd: AFC line
5:45 PM
LEG1 LOCKED AND LOADED
error in ToolHead. Extruder loaded with no lane identified going to eject
have to run.. .this is just going to have to wait
Cant eject either ...another day
Im terrible at this config stuff
if you know what lane is loaded
edit AFC/AFC.var.tool and change the lane to legX and restart AFC
for whatever lane it's loaded in
Only using lane 1 but all 4 are loaded
Believe its stuck in the toolhead
Manually remove it entirely from the lane and run a fresh prep
I tried that not able to to remove the ecases
got it by heating up nozzle extract then use the unload tool
ok back to prep
i never did figure out the snappy stuff
BTW ..Happy T-day to everyone tomorrow
Yep, happy T day
Anyways
With printer hot does T0 do anything
I'm not running Snappy so I am unable to assist there
its warming up
175
then it will push filament
taking a break ..i keep running into circles
The re-winding is just not very good on this. Could it be the fuzzy wheels
What do you mean by not very good ?
Which spools do you have on top ?
I found the fuzzy was fine
this has been nothing but one issue after another for me for my experience
its spinning correct
Okay, mhm that's weird
Hummmm, which setting to you have the idler at the back ?
The wheels on the back not the ones that are actively driven by the DC motor
I have mine set at the second setting
?
But that depends on the spool you have
cardboard spools right now
Maybe you need to move it back up a notch
Oh i see fartherst in the back
Let me find a picture of what I mean
Let's see if it helps
Probably it will as it moves the weight more on the top of the wheel instead of the side
made it worse
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maybe this is just not to be for me
Eerrrh can you do a video with just the respoolers free spinning maybe there's an issue there
Making them not run fast enough
I know everyone is trying to help but maybe this is just not for me
Have a Great T-day
Thank you Mike also have a great T day
I really think you are this close from finishing, i understand the frustration, take some time away to think and relax, I really think you are this close from finishing, let's hope we find something that can help you to get the BT to work 🤞
let see how far I get this time
filament now not making it to the toolhead and klipper chrashing
what are you trying to do?
T0
now jusit got a internal server error
have you updated the afc library?
nope
do that. was a bug that was fixed yesterday. the bug made mine crash
i see there is a update that just popped up but everytime I update causes more issues
fair, can you send the klipper log and i will have a look
ill just update and see what else I can break
deping on when your last update was, you will have to re add some values
should take like 30 sek max
is klipper booting right or stuck on the blue "klipper is starting" screen?
its booted
is that happening during loade?
only on unload
its just the stepper turning on and off
but its al making the filament tangle
did it do a fast move first?
you might need to tighten the screw a little bit. seems like it dosent move the filament like it should
try 1/2
maybe even 1
the filament will get slight marks on it but it shouldent be deep grooves
I really haven' t gotten the bowden length correct some sometimes it goes to the filadector sometimes is stops about 50mm short \
if you do a T0 dose it move a difrent amount or?
Running T0 now
it should move the exavt movment every time
the TN might chnage it a bit so just make shure thats fully extended first
is this still happening or?
