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frank forge
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I usually have to do a turtle prep to get everythign setup after a reboot

spark compass
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run PREP again after you delete it to generate a new one

dense sequoia
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👍

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if it was easy I guess everyone would build one

frank forge
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supposedly LDO has pre-sold 500 kits.....sooooo

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i think everyone is lol

ivory stone
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jeez 500?

dense sequoia
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what i should have done

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be worth it in the the end

ivory stone
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i mean

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you can buy a kit

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but it doesnt take the assembly and the tuning out of it

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still gotta get it working

dense sequoia
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true

ivory stone
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you just dont have to try source parts is all really

dense sequoia
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guess im going to rip out tray 1 and start over

ivory stone
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in the end, i might end up taking mine apart and selling it as a kit lol

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espesically if i cant get it working reliably

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since well, before all this my printer was 100% reliable

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i was yet to have a failed print in over 160 hours of print time and hadnt really done anything to it, it was basically as it was out of the box and print quality was great, speed was pretty darn good and well yeah no failed prints lol

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lol

dense sequoia
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Im getting to the point I might just sell this one

ivory stone
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and i still dont know if someone has a 100% reliable BT.... like always reliable other than maybe consistently timed maintenance? like blade replacements for cutter or trigger replacements from simply lifetime

dense sequoia
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been working on this for what 2 weeks now or so

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almost not worth it anymore

lean zealot
ivory stone
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just runs and works and thats it?

lean zealot
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Correct

ivory stone
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dang

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i might have to build a beta then 🤣

lean zealot
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Both of my betas are running the current release extruders and hubs

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They were just beta before going public

dense sequoia
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i deleted the afc vars

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how do i create it again

ivory stone
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well, then they arent technically beta now since the main thing id say, is the extruders, and then the hub

dense sequoia
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heck I cant even get one working

ivory stone
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everything else is more aesthetic/ design changes (for the new parts to fit), not mechanical or reliability upgrades afaik?

lean zealot
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Basically

lean zealot
dense sequoia
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got it

ivory stone
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chances certainly are if i cant get this working fully reliably when i switch to potentially post extruder cutter in future, or 100% reliable as it is now...... eventually ill probably just take it apart andd sell it lol

lean zealot
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Just build a machine

ivory stone
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it is built :p

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oh you mean like a voron

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yeah no, cost lol

lean zealot
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Microns are pretty cheap

ivory stone
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ehhhhhhhhhhhhh, how much

lean zealot
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I just bought a kit for under $500

dense sequoia
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think i might sell this and get a micron +

ivory stone
frank forge
# ivory stone you can buy a kit

hoenstly from what I've seen of the unboxing the LDO kit isn't going to make the build much more easy other than they've sourced some extra stuff

ivory stone
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for MUCH less bed area

dense sequoia
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yes i know

dense sequoia
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i have two v2 350mm now

lean zealot
ivory stone
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the only way you can make things more easy, is if you were to sell PRE-ASSEMBLED kits

lean zealot
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It's an afternoon build with the LDO kit

frank forge
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yeah the wiring will be easier I guess

lean zealot
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Not just easier, plug and play

ivory stone
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well no

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you still gotta build the extruders

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etc

frank forge
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yeah he just means wiring

lean zealot
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Wiring is plug and play

ivory stone
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yeah

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i mean my wiring was plug and play :p since i did them all while stuff was arriving lmfao

ivory stone
lean zealot
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shrug I've built all my wiring inside the turtle

lean zealot
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And LEDs too

dense sequoia
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I did al lthe soldering on the two vorons and the turtle

ivory stone
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well thats nice at least, people can save money with not needing to buy a soldering iron

lean zealot
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Still need an iron to press the heatsets

ivory stone
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ah

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dang

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atp i would end up doing the wires anyways, considering i was able to do 80% of it while other parts were arriving when i self sourced

dense sequoia
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whoops caught rc car i i nthe pick ...sorry

ivory stone
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lol

dense sequoia
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3d printed rc

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yet I cant get a BT built

ivory stone
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i was gonna build a press, but.... ehhhhhh i ordered a tip set and personally thats gonna be enough for me, easy enough to put in straight even when i didnt use a proper heatset tip

ivory stone
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no worries me too, i keep running into issues

frank forge
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hope they come out with the drawer for thefull size one, supposedly the guy is workign on it

frank forge
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yeah

ivory stone
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just.... design a clip on base lol

dense sequoia
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stealthpress

ivory stone
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with a drawer

dense sequoia
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that is the fullsize one

frank forge
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meh, aint nobody got time for that

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oh ok

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did someone else design one? cause I know the mini one has it

dense sequoia
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yes its on printables

ivory stone
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if i had the dimensions i could do it in likeeeee half an hour at most happy to do it sometime tomorrow

dense sequoia
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with a handle too

frank forge
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ah ok

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thunder has a different heat press that looks really cool, wish I built that one lol

ivory stone
dense sequoia
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Updated pic of it

frank forge
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nice

dense sequoia
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I think I have just decided to postpone the project....

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I need the printer more then the MMU

hidden plank
frank forge
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yeah that ones sweet

dense sequoia
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thats awesome

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I commented alll the code for the BT and removed it

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have xmas stuff to print

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ill stick it on the other v2 instead with the NH

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I keep looking at thunderkeys heatpress i like the base of it

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you design that yourself I take it

cyan shuttle
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Its a VLMP 2 I believe

dense sequoia
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nice

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watching a video on it

dense sequoia
ivory stone
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With my*

dense sequoia
ivory stone
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Nah, i got pretty far on the serial 3 colour but no dice

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But its 2am now

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Turned printer off at midnight

dense sequoia
dense sequoia
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Got Xmas stuff printed so turned BT back on. Will replace sd card with nvme drive to see if that resolves all my ttc errors

lean zealot
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Whooo

dense sequoia
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Thanks Belial

lean zealot
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I really hope it fixes it

dense sequoia
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Me too

dense sequoia
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@lean zealot Im re-installing now. I may need some help if ok with you

dense sequoia
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I copied all the cfg's. BT not doing anything

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its not seeing the AFC

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I re-installed via the wizard and then copied over the config

dense sequoia
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👍

desert heron
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i think reflash should fix it but if not try another cable. i have goten damaged usb cables before

dense sequoia
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ok ill give it a shot

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nope ..ill mess with it anothre day

desert heron
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try another usb port, another cable

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that is most likely it then

lean zealot
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Mike, does it show up under ls /dev/serial/by-id?

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If it shows there then something else is wrong

dense sequoia
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Had to run out for a bit

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I know it did show up though

lean zealot
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It does show up there?

dense sequoia
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Yes

lean zealot
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If so it's just a config error

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Did you fresh install the AFC Klipper Add On?

dense sequoia
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Yes

lean zealot
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Ah

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Did you put the serial location in the TurtleNeck config?

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under AFC/mcus

dense sequoia
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Yes

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I should be home around 9 or 930

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I tried over writing afc folders with old config

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One that was working

dense sequoia
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ok Im back

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mcu 'turtleneck': Unable to connect
Once the underlying issue is corrected, use the
"FIRMWARE_RESTART" command to reset the firmware, reload the
config, and restart the host software.
Error configuring printer

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what info do you need

azure steppe
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config files to start I would say

dense sequoia
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trying to zip it up now

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d/l button just circling

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Well guess not tonight printer now is not booting

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i think its time to junk this voron

cyan shuttle
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Ok that escalated quickly, what changed?

dense sequoia
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this printer has too many issues

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not worth fighting anymore

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i have a 2nd voron I start over on that one

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not booting to nvme again

cyan shuttle
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You have a hat on the pi with a m.2 drive?

dense sequoia
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NO USB to NMVE

desert heron
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Can the pi provide enough power to power the drive and the itself? Might be blowing buck converter’s here

cyan shuttle
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I've never had good luck booting pis off usb

desert heron
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If I where u. Just use sdcards.

dense sequoia
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im just going to exchnage out the electronics on this voron down the road

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they are all original parts and my 1st Voron.

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on 4th sd card on this printer now

dense sequoia
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Picking up a pi4 today

river jungle
hidden plank
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(specifically, V- not so much ground)

ivory stone
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i think it was this thread, but ive had this again for once now even after doing the trsync changes

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happened when trying to test load lane 4

it got to the hub, didnt even attempt the long move, and shutdown

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as in, it quite literally shutdown/ "failed to load" the second it engaged the hub switch

desert heron
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Whats your klipper host?

ivory stone
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modified mks pi with an onboard STM32F402

cyan shuttle
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Lets not hijack Mike's thread guys.

dense sequoia
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its all good

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i found a nvme that work

lean zealot
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ooo

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@dense sequoia did you see this #1305665221947429025 message

dense sequoia
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1Tb doesn't like

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guess 256g one worked

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now who would like to help me to get this going

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😛

lean zealot
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We're here for ya

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As much as we can be

dense sequoia
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well of course

dense sequoia
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Strange If I write mainsail ( bulleseye I can boot, If I write PI OS lite 64 Putty will not cvonnect which is bookworm

cyan shuttle
dense sequoia
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I know that I enabled it

dense sequoia
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ok have new SD card this time

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lets see if I can get something going

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Unknown config object 'AFC'

Once the underlying issue is corrected, use the "RESTART"
command to reload the config and restart the host software.
Printer is halted

lean zealot
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Fresh klipper install, just dropped your configs in?

dense sequoia
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yes

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rebooting now

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see what happens

lean zealot
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Just want to make sure, did you re-install the AFC klipper add on?

dense sequoia
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yes 1st then I copyed over the files

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now Im getting printer not ready

lean zealot
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Did you make sure that your CAN ids are correct in your configs?

dense sequoia
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all my cfs whan dropping over are blank

lean zealot
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hmm??

dense sequoia
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open up TN2 file after dropping in mailsail its blank

lean zealot
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Is it just TN2?

dense sequoia
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no all files

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so Ill havew to search github hopefully I cn find the last copy that was working after you asll fix ed it

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thar was proablly a week or so ago

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open and copied al lteh cfg files one by one and still nothing

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un happy turtle for sure

frank forge
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hmm

dense sequoia
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I might just wait for the VVD and quit bothering ppl with this

lean zealot
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No no

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Let's get this working

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How are you trying to move your configs onto the printer?

dense sequoia
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drag n drop

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didnt work

lean zealot
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Into the web browser?

dense sequoia
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opened each config dselect all the n paste

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yea right on mainsail

lean zealot
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Can you try copying them in with WinSCP?

dense sequoia
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sure

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No difference ...printer not ready

lean zealot
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Can you open a config over winscp to make sure the config is actually there?

dense sequoia
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its there

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Klipper not seeing any MCUS

lean zealot
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In printer.cfg comment out the [include AFC/*.cfg]

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Let's get the printer going first

dense sequoia
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did a search for device by id

hidden plank
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did you resetup your canbus interface on linux first

dense sequoia
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Already checking that ..thanks

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oh it crapped out for the canbus network Can0

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ill redo the sdcard from scratch

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cant re-create the interfaces.d/can0

hidden plank
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why?

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is it maybe not using ifupdown adn instead using systemd-network/netplan?

dense sequoia
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don't know but I feel like I'm bothering ppl to much on this and maybe I should just take a pause on this for awhile.

hidden plank
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I just think we'd make more progress on getting you a working printer/box turtle if we stopped starting from scratch each time and instead iterated on solving the actual individual problems.

dense sequoia
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well I did havea bad sd card ..kinda had to start over

frank forge
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should of been able to just copy that whole sd to a new sd and still been where you started off.

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if you had a backup anyways

hidden plank
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anyways what's done is done

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but please let us know when you've got a base install and we can go through getting the base printer up, then worry about boxturtle/afc. one step at a time.

dense sequoia
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Now that i have fresh install and happy BT and a fresh back up too

hidden plank
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nice!

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so, now see if the rest of it works, loading filament to the toolhead, doing manual toolchanges

dense sequoia
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T0

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failed then got a 500 internal server error

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reboot back to it again

hidden plank
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klippy.log will help

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maybe moonraker.log too if you got a 500

dense sequoia
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I sdee it made it ti the filament detector

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not sure if it made it to the g2e properly

dense sequoia
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going too see if it extruders now that it made it to the g2e

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wel lthat didnt work

dense sequoia
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Warning: No buffer defined in config file

frank forge
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do you have TN2 setup?

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or installed I mean

dense sequoia
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yes

frank forge
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then you gotta go in there and uncomment TN2 and set the pin I think

dense sequoia
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all ready did

frank forge
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or you have to put in the serial ID maybe\

dense sequoia
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already did

frank forge
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i forget, @hidden plank?

dense sequoia
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hitting t0

frank forge
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did it load this time?

dense sequoia
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trying now

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heating up

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i noticed that when rebooting printer its unloading a bitt too much then I have to refeed 1-3mm each time

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but its feeing right now

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10:10 PM
Must home axis first: 297.000 290.000 0.000 [72.000]
10:10 PM
Must home axis first: 297.000 290.000 0.000 [72.000]
10:10 PM
Must home axis first: 297.000 290.000 0.000 [72.000]
10:10 PM
Must home axis first: 297.000 290.000 0.000 [72.000]

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after loading filament to the tool head

sage cradle
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did you home be fore you did t0?

dense sequoia
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no

sage cradle
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ha, yeah. need to home

dense sequoia
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thats probaly why

sage cradle
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i did the same thing

frank forge
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yeah it does unload a bit when doing prep

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you can turn bootup prep off and I think you can adjust how much it spins too

dense sequoia
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klipper crashed

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not sure how to do that

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klipper totaly crashed

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sooo many issues

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other voron Brrrr just fine

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rebooted

hidden plank
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send moonraker.log/klippy.log

dense sequoia
hidden plank
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2024-11-22 22:52:09,679 [common.py:build_error()] - JSON-RPC Request Error - Requested Method: printer.gcode.script, Code: 400, Message: Extrude below minimum temp
See the 'min_extrude_temp' config option for details
2024-11-22 22:52:13,611 [server.py:_handle_term_signal()] - Exiting with signal SIGTERM

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looks like it's not heating up to temp before doing things

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ok, no, it's maybe something else

azure steppe
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Need to add the following to your [AFC] section in AFC.py file Buffer_Name: TN2

hidden plank
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Internal error on command:"LANE_UNLOAD"
Once the underlying issue is corrected, use the
"FIRMWARE_RESTART" command to reset the firmware, reload the
config, and restart the host software.
Printer is shutdown

Internal error on command:"LANE_UNLOAD"
Internal error on command:"BT_LANE_EJECT"
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/home/pi/klipper/klippy/gcode.py", line 211, in _process_commands
    handler(gcmd)
  File "/home/pi/klipper/klippy/gcode.py", line 137, in <lambda>
    func = lambda params: origfunc(self._get_extended_params(params))
                          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "/home/pi/klipper/klippy/extras/gcode_macro.py", line 189, in cmd
    self.template.run_gcode_from_command(kwparams)
  File "/home/pi/klipper/klippy/extras/gcode_macro.py", line 68, in run_gcode_from_command
    self.gcode.run_script_from_command(self.render(context))
  File "/home/pi/klipper/klippy/gcode.py", line 226, in run_script_from_command
    self._process_commands(script.split('\n'), need_ack=False)
  File "/home/pi/klipper/klippy/gcode.py", line 211, in _process_commands
    handler(gcmd)
  File "/home/pi/klipper/klippy/gcode.py", line 137, in <lambda>
    func = lambda params: origfunc(self._get_extended_params(params))
                          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "/home/pi/klipper/klippy/extras/AFC.py", line 484, in cmd_LANE_UNLOAD
    CUR_LANE = self.printer.lookup_object('AFC_stepper '+ lane)
               ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "/home/pi/klipper/klippy/klippy.py", line 79, in lookup_object
    raise self.config_error("Unknown config object '%s'" % (name,))
configparser.Error: Unknown config object 'AFC_stepper leg0'

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so what are you doing when it crashes?

dense sequoia
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im on vacation in a few weeks maybe I have some better time to sit and mess with all the issue

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just too many quirks

hidden plank
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it's perhaps maybe a bad time to try to get things working tonight

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as they are doiung some major updates to the AFC addon which are going to require further config chagnes

dense sequoia
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yea maybe Ill jut wait till after the holidays

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I wont touch a thing

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Ineed to dry some filament anyway

hidden plank
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over here @dense sequoia if you want to work on this

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send an updated config.zip file over

dense sequoia
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I was looking for the bowden length

lean zealot
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It's under hub in AFC_Hardware now iirc

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Let me confirm real quick

dense sequoia
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found it

lean zealot
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Yep, [AFC_hub Turtle_1] has it

dense sequoia
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filament stopping 200mm above the SB \

lucid acorn
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Try, SET_BOWDEN_LENGTH LENGTH=+200

dense sequoia
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already on it

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how far is the G2E additional

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i opened the tension almost all the way open

dense sequoia
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which is the proper command to re-wind filament

hidden plank
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bt_unload_tool should rewind it properly

dense sequoia
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ill give is a shot I was using eject

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noticed that kliper not showing filament sensor now either even though I have the pin defined in pin start tool

lean zealot
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It doesn't show anymore

dense sequoia
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Oh i was usingit as a guide for the filament when it hit

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and as a indicator if the switch went bad

hidden plank
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mainsail integration will add that status back

dense sequoia
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ok

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Unknown command:"BT_UNLOAD_TOOL"

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bt_tool_unload nothing

hidden plank
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um

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afc_status

dense sequoia
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3:04 PM
Turtle_1 Status
LANE | Prep | Load | Hub | Tool |
LEG1 | <--> | <--> | x | xx |
LEG2 | <--> | <--> | x | xx |
LEG3 | <--> | <--> | x | xx |
LEG4 | <--> | <--> | x | xx |

hidden plank
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so what do you mean rewind the spool

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none of your spools are loaded to the toolhead

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or even the hub

dense sequoia
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leg 1 I just ran the t0 command ran the filament to the filament sensor

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then I ran the status

hidden plank
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but yoru hub sensor is not triggered

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Turtle_1 Status
LANE | Prep | Load | Hub | Tool |
LEG1 | <--> | <--> | <-> | <--> |
LEG2 | <--> | <--> |  x  |  xx  |
LEG3 | <--> | <--> |  x  |  xx  |
LEG4 |  xx  |  xx  |  x  |  xx  |
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that's what it should look like when loaded

dense sequoia
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so it might be stuck then

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i take it

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ok

hidden plank
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also check the afc_hardware.cfg and make sure hte hub switch is defined to where you have it plugged in on teh afc lite board.

dense sequoia
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filament all the way thru the hub right now

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ok

hidden plank
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if it is test to see if you have continuity

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when you add/remove filmaent

dense sequoia
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hasnt changed

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will check connectivity

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ill have to remove hub wires are connected

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so maybe a stuck ball but I can hear it clicking

dense sequoia
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6:40 PM

LANE | Prep | Load | Hub | Tool |
LEG1 |  xx  |  xx  |  x  |  xx  |
LEG2 |  xx  |  xx  |  x  |  xx  |
LEG3 | <--> |  xx  |  x  |  xx  |
LEG4 |  xx  |  xx  |  x  |  xx  |```
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leg 3 has no filament

lean zealot
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Your leg is stuck

dense sequoia
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also ran filament in the snappy hub still no not sensing

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I think its time to give up this has been nothing but trouble/issues

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this will never get one single print

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now leg2 is stuck

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not going to say another word about it

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thanks for being patient though

dense sequoia
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fixed leg2 by replacing broken blade from switch ...put new switch on. Now have to figure out the HUB switch not working

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Pulled hub apart. then pushed switch doesn't change status

sage cradle
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and when you push filament through it, do you hear the switch activate at all?

dense sequoia
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yes pull switchout of HUB chaeck status with Switch pushed in manual

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So possiable bad switch

sage cradle
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i mean, it was just working though not that long ago. i mean i guess its possible if you used cheap china switches. but i doubt that. but then again you had a broken blade on a switch, which also seems odd

dense sequoia
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omes that came with kit

sage cradle
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oh you got a kit. nice. those are legit.

do you have another switch on hand? i mean easy to remove the hub one and re solder a new one on

dense sequoia
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checked switch ol with switch not depressed ..with depressed reading 2.4

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yes i found 1

sage cradle
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if you switch that out, don't just toss that switch. im not fully sure the switch is borked

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but im also not sure what the readings should be on the switches. Im very new to electrical stuff

hidden plank
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all the filament sensor switches should also have pullups (^) in the config

dense sequoia
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ill keep but mark it

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it does

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switch_pin: switch_pin: ^AFC:HUB

hidden plank
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ok, just making sure

dense sequoia
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thanks

dense sequoia
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Turtle_1 Status
LANE | Prep | Load | Hub | Tool |
LEG1 | xx | xx | x | xx |
LEG2 | xx | xx | x | xx |
LEG3 | xx | xx | x | xx |
LEG4 | xx | xx | x | xx |

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stil no filament detected in Hub with new switch

vapid breach
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work if manually triggered?

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like feed filament back into hub from outside and see if it triggers?

dense sequoia
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I can here it clicking when putting filamentin and out

vapid breach
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if not, are you 100% sure switch is wired/working properly?

dense sequoia
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from, the hub

vapid breach
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have a multimeter to test and verify?

dense sequoia
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of course

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I tested before i put in the hub

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ol and 0000

vapid breach
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ok - so in the config

dense sequoia
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switch_pin: ^AFC:HUB

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possible bad port ?

vapid breach
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just asking for other to chime in on. On the 20th you posted a pic of your System Load which showed all the versions on the different boards. Could possibly the differing versions causing some issues. mcu on v0.11, AFC on v0.12.0-349, SB204 on -113, TN on -358 and main on -378

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I keep all of mine on the same revision, just to be sure there are no cross-compatible issue

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not 100% sure if that can cause issues but is a possibility

dense sequoia
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👍

dense sequoia
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just in case

vapid breach
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always better safe.. never too many backup copies

dense sequoia
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yea i have posted enough

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V2 will be out before I can get v1 working ...lol

cyan shuttle
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When you checked the switch Mike, was it at the connector youre plugging into the afc? Is it possible its a broken wire? Wrong pins in the plug?

dense sequoia
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yes it was plugged into the hub port

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nothing has changed

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except the software

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version

cyan shuttle
dense sequoia
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yes

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pc4

cyan shuttle
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You should have 2 free pins, have you tried a different one to verify if its the pin?

lean zealot
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Hold on guys

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Mike

cyan shuttle
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Before you try another one though be 100% sure the pin out is correct

lean zealot
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Do you still have that test file we had you put in to test all your switches?

dense sequoia
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let me look

cyan shuttle
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Oh that sounds more productive lol

lean zealot
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Let's kick the AFC stuff out and just test switches

dense sequoia
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yes i have it

cyan shuttle
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Ok comment out AFC and test the switches

lean zealot
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Comment out [include AFC/*.cfg]

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And add a line to include that

dense sequoia
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pasted the file in AFC root

vapid breach
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[include AFC/test-afc.cfg] if it is in the AFC folder

cyan shuttle
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when you say AFC root do you mean its AFC/test-afc.cfg?

dense sequoia
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yes

cyan shuttle
dense sequoia
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Once the underlying issue is corrected, use the "RESTART"
command to reload the config and restart the host software.
Printer is halted``` now I have this ...when I    added [include AFC/test-afc.cfg]
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I didnt create a 2nd AFC folder

cyan shuttle
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ok, move the test file up a level from the AFC folder

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so its in the /config folder

dense sequoia
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done

cyan shuttle
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Were you able to test the switches Mike?

dense sequoia
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All work but the hub

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Ill try another port maybe the port is dead

olive field
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You tested the switch with a multimeter ?

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Like continuity ?

dense sequoia
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yes ...brand new switch

olive field
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And through the wire that leads to the main board ?

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Otherwise shitz 😢

white igloo
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You have a pullup on it right?

hidden plank
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a simple thing to test would be just swap it with antoher endstop and see if hte problem moves.

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my money would be on a bad crimp on the connector over a bad port

dense sequoia
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taking a break .... have other things to get done

hidden plank
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sure

dense sequoia
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ok recrimp time

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switch not pushed in reading 0.1- 1.7 then goes ol

vapid breach
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bad switch? Should be completely open circuit and 0 ohm at closed

lean zealot
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I mean, anything other than ol across then to ol when pressed should indicate the switch is fine

dense sequoia
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ok new swich/new wire / crimps

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still no hub

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only thing left is the port

white igloo
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can you take a picture out of curiosity of where you are plugging it into?

dense sequoia
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i will late family emergency

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@dense sequoia

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Bottom middle

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SW1

white igloo
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So it would be a bit of a pain, but you could also always take the AFC-Lite out of the BT, and check for continuity on the backside of the switch

dense sequoia
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il pass on that.

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Might try and r uninstall and reinstall

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if that fails just get another board or use BTT MMB

white igloo
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Have you tried just swapping it to another port?

frank forge
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have you tried....not using can and just using it USB? lol

tame kestrel
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Came here to say the same thing (port swapping) lol

hidden plank
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i feel like your simpliest option here

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swap sw1 and sw2

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swap the pins in the config

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does the problem move

frank forge
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I'm behind on where you are but just thinking out loud cause last I knew you were using can lol

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actually it was loading the other day so I assume it's something else now lol

dense sequoia
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Port is bad

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Switch port 1 and 2

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guess Ill be looking at a board replacement down the road

frank forge
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how do you have so much hardware fail? lol

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you got super dirty electricity over there or something?

dense sequoia
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whi knows bad luck

frank forge
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meh I dont' really believe in luck lol gotta be something else

dense sequoia
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Im running throught asurge proctector

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APC 2500

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Ill just order another board

lean zealot
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Move to other ports. You should have 3 open

dense sequoia
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1 port dead others will follow

frank forge
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sadly those APC surge protectors dont' really condition power much. So if you were having power issues that wouldn't help only protect against surges

hidden plank
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electronics don't hvae STDs

dense sequoia
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I know that ..

hidden plank
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anyways - moving to a different endstop port will let you move forward

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and ti coudl be easily swapped out for a replacement later, possibly even fixed

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mabye it's a weak solder joint or something, who knows

frank forge
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that's crazy, the end stop port died?

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hmm maybe

dense sequoia
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@frank forge yea well it happens I guess

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LANE | Prep | Load | Hub | Tool |
LEG1 | <--> |  xx  |  x  |  xx  |
LEG2 |  xx  |  xx  |  x  |  xx  |
LEG3 |  xx  |  xx  |  x  |  xx  |
LEG4 |  xx  |  xx  |  x  |  xx  |```
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push in switch and the leg 1 trying to pull in filament

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and thart was after switch sw1 and sw2

hidden plank
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perhaps the motor is running backwareds

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i feel like we swapped that in the past but if the cofhnig was redone because of the upgrade it may need redoing

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(just update dir_pin to hvae a ! if it oesn't have one or remove if it does)

dense sequoia
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checked hub the two left pins with printer off and uplugged reading 10.02 continuity for the hub port

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left is the NC and middle is ground

hidden plank
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when you moved it to port 2 it worked?

if so. Put the original PREP1 switch back in SW2. Put HUB in like SW12. then update config to point the pin defintion and see if it all works there...

dense sequoia
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7:29 PM

LANE | Prep | Load | Hub | Tool |
LEG1 | <--> | <--> |  x  |  xx  |
LEG2 | <--> | <--> |  x  |  xx  |
LEG3 | <--> | <--> |  x  |  xx  |
LEG4 | <--> | <--> |  x  |  xx  |```
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No Hub

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re-wired whole BT

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all new switches

white igloo
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That is what I would expect to see if filament is just loaded

dense sequoia
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I ran t0 to the tool head

white igloo
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LANE | Prep | Load | Hub | Tool |
LEG1 | <--> | <--> |  x  |  xx  |
LEG2 |  xx  |  xx  |  x  |  xx  |
LEG3 | <--> | <--> |  x  |  xx  |
LEG4 | <--> | <--> |  x  |  xx  |``` This is legs 1,3,4
white igloo
dense sequoia
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I used to have a icon for it but not anymore

white igloo
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put something like ```
[duplicate_pin_override]
pins: nhk:gpio13

[filament_switch_sensor toolhead]
switch_pin: nhk:gpio13```

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but swap it for the right pin

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that will let it show up

dense sequoia
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under afc extruder ?

white igloo
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just in your printer.cfg or wherever. It isn't AFC specific

dense sequoia
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gotcha

white igloo
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it just says it is ok if a pin is defined twice

dense sequoia
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Unable to parse option 'initial_BLUE' in section 'neopixel caselight'
after making that change

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rebooting

white igloo
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make sure it isn't in the middle of another section

dense sequoia
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must have been a space

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says filamemt sensor is empty

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let me check that

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hit T0 print head slammed in front left

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wow

white igloo
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make sure your positions in the AFC_Macro_vars.cfg are valid for your printer

dense sequoia
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yea all look fine 350mm

white igloo
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Are your sensors working? That is the most important thing to get working first

dense sequoia
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sensor say empty

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says dected now

white igloo
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is it flickering? Or is it a reliable change?

dense sequoia
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stable

white igloo
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what about the hub? Just take the pfte out of the back of the box turtle in put in piece of filament to trigger it

dense sequoia
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LANE | Prep | Load | Hub | Tool |
LEG1 | <--> | <--> | x | xx |
LEG2 | <--> | <--> | x | xx |
LEG3 | <--> | <--> | x | xx |

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dead still

#
Type: Box_Turtle
afc_bowden_length: 1180        # Length of the Bowden tube from the hub to the toolhead sensor in mm.
move_dis: 50                   # Distance to move the filament within the hub in mm.
cut: False                     # Hub has Cutter
#--=================================================================================--
#------- Hub Cut ---------------------------------------------------------------------
#--=================================================================================--
cut_cmd: AFC                   # CMD to use
cut_dist: 200                  # How much filament to cut off (in mm).
cut_clear: 120                 # How far the filament should retract back from the hub (in mm).
cut_servo_name: cut            # Servos name in configuration to use
cut_min_length: 300.0
cut_servo_pass_angle: 10       # Servo angle to align the Bowden tube with the hole for loading the toolhead.
cut_servo_clip_angle: 180      # Servo angle for cutting the filament.
cut_servo_prep_angle: 80       # Servo angle to prepare the filament for cutting (aligning the exit hole).
switch_pin: ^AFC:HUB```
white igloo
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You need the hub to be working. Last night you mentioned it worked if you had it on a different port?

dense sequoia
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PC4

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it was working until I re-isntalled the upgraded software

white igloo
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PC4 is the AFC:HUB definition

dense sequoia
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alias shows pc4

white igloo
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yes, it is also SW1

dense sequoia
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correct

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and that's port Im plugged into

white igloo
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what happens if you move it to an open port? and then just use like switch_pin: ^AFC:SW<whatever>

dense sequoia
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haven't tried anothr port

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so Ill try sw12

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and change the HUB = PE13

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still no hub

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LANE | Prep | Load | Hub | Tool |
LEG1 | <--> | <--> | x | xx |
LEG2 | <--> | <--> | x | xx |
LEG3 | <--> | xx | x | xx |
LEG4 | <--> | <--> | x | xx |

white igloo
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Disconnect the hub switch, measure continuity at the JST connector and trigger the switch

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Measure it on that part

dense sequoia
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ok sicne i recrimped last night

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hold ill check it

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0

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filament in the hub also

white igloo
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and it changes if you take the filament out?

dense sequoia
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no

white igloo
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Then your switch isn't physically triggering

dense sequoia
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I can hear it clicking

white igloo
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Well, if you can hear it click, but the continuity isn't changing from open to closed (or vice versa), then there is an issue

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either the switch is bad, the wire is bad, the solder is bad, or the crimp is bad

dense sequoia
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put hub on desk put probes on + on NC side and -on C npw getting filament in 0l filament out0.0.0.0

hidden plank
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put it in beep mode

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you should be able to engage/disengage the switch and confirm the beeping starts/stops

dense sequoia
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like 10 times off/on

white igloo
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What changed to make it work?

dense sequoia
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all i did was take it out

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set it o nthe desk

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putting it back in now

lean zealot
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Check that your ball bearing isn't stuck in the hub

dense sequoia
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yes before putting it back in

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same way I checked the extruders

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If i get this going Im going to drink my butt off

white igloo
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Ok, I'm out for the evening, good luck!

dense sequoia
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Nite

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Turtle_1 Status
LANE | Prep | Load | Hub | Tool |
LEG1 | <--> | <--> | <-> | <--> |
LEG2 | <--> | <--> | x | xx |
LEG3 | <--> | <--> | x | xx |
LEG4 | <--> | <--> | x | xx |

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finally

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now for tip forming , might take me 6 months

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is there a visual over ride to look at these stats in klipper instead of the console

vapid breach
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{printer ip}/printer/objects/query?AFC

hidden plank
dense sequoia
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Nice

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Filment not ejectinmg and is loaded

hidden plank
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what happens if you heat the extruder up to print temp and do BT_LANE_UNLOAD

dense sequoia
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at 150 temp right now

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bumped to 175 Move out of range: 570.000 335.000 14.014 [-4.000] 10:22 PM Move out of range: 570.000 335.000 14.014 [-4.000] 10:22 PM Move out of range: 570.000 335.000 14.014 [-4.000] 10:22 PM Move out of range: 570.000 335.000 14.014 [-4.000]

hidden plank
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post your AFC_Macro_Vars.cfg

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you can also try issuing a G90 first, then BT_LANE_UNLOAD again.

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or hwtever the unload command is

dense sequoia
hidden plank
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BT_TOOL_UNLOAD? BT_UNLOAD_TOOL? i autocomplete it 🙂

dense sequoia
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g90 then unload worked

hidden plank
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ok, so something is putting it into relative mode

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but not putting it back to absolute

dense sequoia
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didnt fully unload it

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AFC-TIP-FORM: Step 2: Cooling Moves
10:27 PM
AFC-TIP-FORM: Step 1: Retraction & Nozzle Separation
10:27 PM
AFC_Park: Park Toolhead
10:27 PM
Rotation distance reset : 4.65```
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snapped the filament

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got it al lcleared out

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LEG4 LOCKED AND LOADED
10:35 PM
LEG3 LOCKED AND LOADED
10:35 PM
LEG2 LOCKED AND LOADED
10:35 PM
LEG1 LOCKED AND LOADED
10:35 PM
Error on filament trying to correct```
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whats it mean by error on filament

azure steppe
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When you rebooted the config files showed that a lane was loaded but your toolhead sensor was not triggered, AFC should of unloaded the lane until the load sensor was not trigger

dense sequoia
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possible to write some KB or How too's in manual for troubleshooting in the future

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of course

azure steppe
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Of course

dense sequoia
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Getting closer thats for sure

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Learning experience for sure

azure steppe
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Where you are now?

dense sequoia
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homeing / qgl

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Testing each lane

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tool head now keeps slamming from left when hitting another lane

cyan shuttle
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mike do you have the toolhead cutting enabled??

dense sequoia
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I thought i diabled it but maybe not

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I told it false when it ask for toolhead cutting

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HUB NOT CLEAR TRYING TO LOAD LEG2```
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its empty

#
LANE | Prep | Load | Hub | Tool |
LEG1 | <--> | <--> |  x  |  xx  |
LEG2 | <--> | <--> |  x  |  xx  |
LEG3 | <--> | <--> |  x  |  xx  |
LEG4 | <--> | <--> |  x  |  xx  |```
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wonder if something is up with the switch

hidden plank
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It’s probably some stringy tip stuck in the hub

dense sequoia
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ill blow some canned air dust in it

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Turtle poop ..lol

dense sequoia
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how do i checked the status of the TN2 I have no Leds at all now

frank forge
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pretty sure there's a way but I don't know it lol.

dense sequoia
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well i have rebooted 3 times and No leds

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Verified the serial number

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not sure if its even working or not

azure steppe
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QUERY_BUFFER BUFFER=<your buffer name>

dense sequoia
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Just calling it a night

dense sequoia
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Thanks everyone for the help ...sorry to be a pain

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Baby steps

frank forge
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The only way you're a pain at all is when you decide to just restart all the time lol

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a lot easier to work from problems then scratch a lot of the time

dense sequoia
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👍

dense sequoia
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Maybe I can get some help on tip forming since I have no ideal setting hat up tonight. thanks

lean zealot
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Try the built in one, if that doesn’t work I know there’s a couple of better tip forming macros floating about

dense sequoia
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👍

dense sequoia
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Going to give a test print. Hopefully nothing goes wrong

lean zealot
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Whoooo!

dense sequoia
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QGL right now

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But with g2e who knows

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Failed already

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No filament flowing

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Leg1 roll doing absolutely nothing. Filament detected in toolhead

frank forge
dense sequoia
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Nope

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tool head moving properly. But no filament moving

cyan shuttle
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awwww

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Dangit

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I came to celebrate

dense sequoia
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using the wrong celebration

cyan shuttle
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So its moving like its printing but youre getting no filament?

dense sequoia
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correct

wispy dagger
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did it push into the extrrduer or no movment from turtle?

frank forge
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well getting close at least

dense sequoia
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i got the filament it appears to the g2e

wispy dagger
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g2e was a pain in the ass for me

cyan shuttle
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oop, I hope its not stuck in the toolhead

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g2E was also a nightmare for me,

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But mike doesnt have filametrix though.

wispy dagger
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that made it worse so many clogs lol

cyan shuttle
#

Yeah its shouldnt be too bad sans filametrix

#

Mike can you try to do BT_TOOL_UNLOAD?

dense sequoia
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yea hold

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that did nothing

cyan shuttle
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Hm.

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Are you able to remove the PTFE ? Are we certain the filament is in the extruder?

dense sequoia
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let me look

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Filament was all way down the the PC fan

cyan shuttle
#

Ok lets figure out why we cant extrude or unload

lean zealot
#

If you reinsert it, heat your hot end, and hit the extrude button at 100mm what's it do?

dense sequoia
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ok hold

lean zealot
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Do it slow, like 2mm/s3

dense sequoia
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feed rate I put it aT 1 FOR NOW

lean zealot
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👍

dense sequoia
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I go slow for testing

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also have rapido v2 plus UHF

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I dont see it doing anything

cyan shuttle
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The motor doesnt turn or anything when you call an extrude?

dense sequoia
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If I retracting if pulls filment out

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So i extuded it pushes it back in

cyan shuttle
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So it is moving

dense sequoia
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I haven't seen the spool move at all

cyan shuttle
#

But with the hot end at temperature youre getting nothing out of the nozzle?

dense sequoia
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No

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Pla at 230

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220

cyan shuttle
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OK for our sanity, do you have a scrap peice you can feed in manually while holding the g2e open to see if it will extrude?

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Did you print ABS before this?

dense sequoia
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ASA

cyan shuttle
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OK so you probably have that in your nozzle

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You may need to heat to 260 or so and purge it

dense sequoia
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Ok

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Got some red our

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No not doing anything

cyan shuttle
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How much of an extrude are you calling?

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100mm?

dense sequoia
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50mm

cyan shuttle
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ok, hitting it 2x still doesnt get you any filament?

dense sequoia
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nope

cyan shuttle
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No noise from the extruder stepper?

dense sequoia
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none

cyan shuttle
#

When did you print the ASA?

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Recently?

dense sequoia
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About a week ago

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Estimated

cyan shuttle
#

So before reinstalling AFC and whatnot?

dense sequoia
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Yes

cyan shuttle
#

Just trying to figure out what direction we need to go in.

dense sequoia
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Haven't printed anything since putting back the BT

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I can hook up a cam

cyan shuttle
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What are the switch status right now?

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Lane 1 showing loaded to the toolhead?

dense sequoia
#

:50 PM
LEG1 LOCKED AND LOADED
error in ToolHead. Extruder loaded with no lane identified

lean zealot
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Oh, that's why

cyan shuttle
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Ahaaa!

lean zealot
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Eject lane 1

dense sequoia
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I just saw that

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its stuck

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might have to pull tool head aprt

lean zealot
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Manually remove it from the toolhead

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Running the Eject command does not run the tool head extruder

dense sequoia
#

Im trying too. The ecass wont let the filament come out at all

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got it

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Rebooting printer

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too see if the bt eject wiull pull filament back

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ok its re-winding now

lean zealot
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You'll have to reload the lane

dense sequoia
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yep

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reloaded

lean zealot
#

Try running a T0 now

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Your hotend has to be hot

dense sequoia
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running now

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ok made it the detector

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but not quite to the g2e extruder

lean zealot
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Your STN_LOAD is not far enough then

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That is distance from the sensor to the nozzle

dense sequoia
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I set stn to 140

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T0 again

wispy dagger
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140 seems like a lot

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I'll check my stn in a bit

lean zealot
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He's using filatector

wispy dagger
#

Ahh

dense sequoia
#

Steath burner and UHF hotend

dense sequoia
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ok motor from spooler is now clicking

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so sounds like hot end is clogged ?

lean zealot
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Possibly

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Got another nozzle you can throw in and see?

cyan shuttle
#

Are you still heating for PLA with the ASA in the nozzle?

dense sequoia
#

bumped it up to 265

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maybe this tinkering is just beyond my compability

cyan shuttle
#

How far above the toolhead is the filatector?

dense sequoia
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Literally right on top

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Maybe 2mm above the sb

cyan shuttle
#

OK, your tool_stn is 140 you said?

dense sequoia
#

If I measure from nozzle to bottom of the sensor 140mm

cyan shuttle
#

Ok that should be OK then. Have you tried extruding since you heated to 265?

dense sequoia
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yea the spooler is trying but clicking

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si im assuming the hot end is cloggeed

cyan shuttle
#

OK, I wonder if you just have a clogged nozzle

dense sequoia
#

I can checked that

dense sequoia
#

Ill have to check that tomorrow didnt realize its almost midnight

cyan shuttle
#

It did get late quick didnt it?

#

Have a good night Mike. We'll try again tomorrow catjam

dense sequoia
#

👍

olive field
#

also with g2e filament path is very important you need it to go straight down without an angle to prevent jams at the gears of g2e i have mine park tool head at the front because that’s where the ptfe tube is less curved for me but your mileage may vary

you got this mike 🫡

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this is what mine looks and it works well

dense sequoia
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@olive field Ill change the angle of the ptfe tube tonight maybe you can help me.with it if you have time of course

olive field
#

of course i'll be happy to help let me know when you have time

in the meantime i'll also say i have chamfered my PTFE on the inside of my nozzle unit so that it will not jam once it went past
the galileo2 i am using capricorn tubing but i guess any will do it...

dense sequoia
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Im using Capricorn also on the inside

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@olive field Around 5pm est. But might be earlier if I get off work early

dense sequoia
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@olive field ok Im home if available

olive field
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just shoot up

dense sequoia
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huh

river jungle
#

Just checking in
We’re at a point now where BT is getting filament to the toolhead, and now we need to get the toolhead stuff sorted for you?

dense sequoia
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yes

olive field
#

oh right, how tight do you have the galilleo 2 ?

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cause you want it not super super tight otherwise you'll have problems

dense sequoia
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I have the tension screw 2 turns to be tightended

river jungle
#

Getting tension just right on the G2e should be your biggest hurdle now then
🥰

olive field
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that's a bit much

cyan shuttle
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I had mine as far out as it would go without coming loose during a print lol

olive field
#

same

dense sequoia
olive field
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yeah... that's too much

hidden plank
#

your poor filament lol

dense sequoia
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Lol

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Turned it out 2 more turns

hidden plank
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when i ran g2e i threaded it on until it 'just' engaged and then did like one or two turns

cyan shuttle
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I would back it out all the way, turn in until the spring touches, then put just a touch of tension on it so the spring holds the screw tight.

dense sequoia
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Ok

cyan shuttle
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It will get tighter on its own when filament moves the extruder over as it enters.

dense sequoia
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Better

olive field
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yup

dense sequoia
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Door moves back n forth now

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Need to check nozzle clog

river jungle
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G@e isnt bad, its just too good lol

dense sequoia
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nozzle is cleared

cyan shuttle
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Its fantastic for anything thats not filament swaps or TPU.

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Load and extrude time!

dense sequoia
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No extruding

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Spool not turning either

desert heron
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dose your extruder not move or?

cyan shuttle
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Is there an error again?

dense sequoia
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Chirping from the spooler

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Like it's trying to extrude

lean zealot
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Are you able to cut a piece of it off and freely run this filament through your hot end now?

dense sequoia
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Almost like it's hitting the Capricorn

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Flowing

desert heron
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how tight are the springs on the bt. mine did that when they where to tight

dense sequoia
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Not really tight

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Might loosen the a 1/2 turn

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Filament shaken back b forth when extruding

river jungle
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Do you have a buffer installed

dense sequoia
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Yes TN2 installed

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At least I got flow

cyan shuttle
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You did that by hand or it finallty extruded?

dense sequoia
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Extruded

cyan shuttle
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So no more jerking?

dense sequoia
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No using klipper ill make a vid

cyan shuttle
dense sequoia
cyan shuttle
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Thats just from the fan.

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I thought you meant the filament coming in from the box turtle.

dense sequoia
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No

cyan shuttle
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OK - Fantastic then You're loaded to the toolhead and ready to print

dense sequoia
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Yes

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What about tip forming

river jungle
dense sequoia
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I don't have a cutter

cyan shuttle
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You have a Rapido you said?

dense sequoia
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Rappidiocv2 uhf

cyan shuttle
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You can probably use Zarboz's config then and have pretty good results

dense sequoia
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Ill have to hit him up

cyan shuttle
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Hold on its been posted a bunch let me find it

dense sequoia
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Or is there a link for his config ?

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Oh cool

cyan shuttle
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Mike, does your snappy work or do we still need to look at that?

dense sequoia
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Snappy doesn't work at all

lean zealot
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I think we need to configure it, pretty sure it was fixed in software

frank forge
cyan shuttle
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OK Lets do that before we try a print then.

dense sequoia
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I removed the data connection wire. Since I couldn't even get it too cut /move

lean zealot
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We should be able to do some stuff with it now

dense sequoia
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Ok let me hook the data pin up

sage cradle
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I have it saved in my sever if not

dense sequoia
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ok I have the cutter daya pin connected

sage cradle
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[gcode_macro FORM_TIP]
gcode:
      SAVE_GCODE_STATE NAME=FORMTIPSTATE
      G91
      G0 E15 F360
      G0 E5 F3600
      G0 E-22 F3600
      G0 E2 F300
      G0 E-2.1 F300
      G0 E2 F300
      G0 E-2.2 F300
      G0 E2 F300
      G0 E-2.3 F300
      G0 E2 F300
      G0 E-2.4 F300
      G0 E2 F300
      G0 E-2.5 F300
      G0 E2 F300
      G0 E-43 F300
      G90
      RESTORE_GCODE_STATE NAME=FORMTIPSTATE
cyan shuttle
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Yep

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Beat me to it by seconds I got sidetracked lol

dense sequoia
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were do I save it

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macros

sage cradle
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The actual gcode replaces the gcode in the afc stuff

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I’m not on pc to get exact file it’s in

dense sequoia
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im at the afc_cut_tip_vars

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found another under maco cutting settings afc.cfg

sage cradle
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That one

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Just move the gcode over, keep the same function name

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Otherwise you gotta change it somewhere else

dense sequoia
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yea tool cut settings

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I have about 30 min then I ll be back around 9:30 or so

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clicked on afc cut macro ..got error 5:18 PM
Error evaluating 'gcode_macro AFC_CUT:gcode': ValueError: not enough values to unpack (expected 2, got 0)

cyan shuttle
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It might not be enabled properly?

dense sequoia
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I Dont know

white igloo
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You can't comment out the tool_cut: False

cyan shuttle
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I just saw that

dense sequoia
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I turned that to true

sage cradle
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In afc did you rename it?

dense sequoia
vapid breach
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yep - you need form_tip_cmd: FORM_TIP to use that macro

dense sequoia
#
form_tip: True # Enable Tip Form.
form_tip_cmd: AFC 
form_tip_cmd: FORM_TIP

# AFC is default routine. Name to custom macro if you prefer
[gcode_macro FORM_TIP]
gcode:
      SAVE_GCODE_STATE NAME=FORMTIPSTATE
      G91
      G0 E15 F360
      G0 E5 F3600
      G0 E-22 F3600
      G0 E2 F300
      G0 E-2.1 F300
      G0 E2 F300
      G0 E-2.2 F300
      G0 E2 F300
      G0 E-2.3 F300
      G0 E2 F300
      G0 E-2.4 F300
      G0 E2 F300
      G0 E-2.5 F300
      G0 E2 F300
      G0 E-43 F300
      G90
      RESTORE_GCODE_STATE NAME=FORMTIPSTATE```
lean zealot
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comment out you form_tip_cmd: AFC line

dense sequoia
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5:45 PM
LEG1 LOCKED AND LOADED
error in ToolHead. Extruder loaded with no lane identified going to eject

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have to run.. .this is just going to have to wait

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Cant eject either ...another day

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Im terrible at this config stuff

hidden plank
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if you know what lane is loaded

edit AFC/AFC.var.tool and change the lane to legX and restart AFC

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for whatever lane it's loaded in

dense sequoia
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Only using lane 1 but all 4 are loaded

dense sequoia
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Believe its stuck in the toolhead

lean zealot
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Manually remove it entirely from the lane and run a fresh prep

dense sequoia
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I tried that not able to to remove the ecases

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got it by heating up nozzle extract then use the unload tool

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ok back to prep

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i never did figure out the snappy stuff

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BTW ..Happy T-day to everyone tomorrow

lean zealot
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Yep, happy T day

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Anyways

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With printer hot does T0 do anything

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I'm not running Snappy so I am unable to assist there

dense sequoia
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its warming up

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175

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then it will push filament

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taking a break ..i keep running into circles

dense sequoia
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The re-winding is just not very good on this. Could it be the fuzzy wheels

olive field
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What do you mean by not very good ?

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Which spools do you have on top ?
I found the fuzzy was fine

dense sequoia
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i have chattering and filament looping

olive field
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That's weird

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Which way is the spool turning when free from the BT extruder ?

dense sequoia
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this has been nothing but one issue after another for me for my experience

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its spinning correct

olive field
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Okay, mhm that's weird

dense sequoia
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just keeps like skippinmg

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when load ing its fine

olive field
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So it's the spool not turning fast enough ?

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Because it is skipping ,m

dense sequoia
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probaly

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Im sure most of the issues are self inflected

olive field
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Hummmm, which setting to you have the idler at the back ?

dense sequoia
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stock

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Im terriable at config

olive field
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The wheels on the back not the ones that are actively driven by the DC motor

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I have mine set at the second setting

dense sequoia
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?

olive field
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But that depends on the spool you have

dense sequoia
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cardboard spools right now

olive field
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Maybe you need to move it back up a notch

dense sequoia
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Oh i see fartherst in the back

olive field
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Let me find a picture of what I mean

dense sequoia
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the wheels in the back notch

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closes to the frame

olive field
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These guys at the back I mean

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Maybe it can help

dense sequoia
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I moved mine up one

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mine was the last one

olive field
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Let's see if it helps

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Probably it will as it moves the weight more on the top of the wheel instead of the side

dense sequoia
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made it worse

olive field
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🫠

dense sequoia
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maybe this is just not to be for me

olive field
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Eerrrh can you do a video with just the respoolers free spinning maybe there's an issue there

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Making them not run fast enough

dense sequoia
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I know everyone is trying to help but maybe this is just not for me

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Have a Great T-day

olive field
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Thank you Mike also have a great T day

I really think you are this close from finishing, i understand the frustration, take some time away to think and relax, I really think you are this close from finishing, let's hope we find something that can help you to get the BT to work 🤞

dense sequoia
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Yea too much frustration for me thats for sure

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close but yet so far away too

dense sequoia
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let see how far I get this time

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filament now not making it to the toolhead and klipper chrashing

desert heron
dense sequoia
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T0

desert heron
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whats the error?

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probebly just send the klippy log file

dense sequoia
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now jusit got a internal server error

desert heron
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have you updated the afc library?

dense sequoia
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nope

desert heron
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do that. was a bug that was fixed yesterday. the bug made mine crash

dense sequoia
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i see there is a update that just popped up but everytime I update causes more issues

desert heron
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fair, can you send the klipper log and i will have a look

dense sequoia
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ill just update and see what else I can break

desert heron
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should take like 30 sek max

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is klipper booting right or stuck on the blue "klipper is starting" screen?

dense sequoia
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its booted

desert heron
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then you should be fine.

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try to loade now

dense sequoia
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That dont sound good

desert heron
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is that happening during loade?

dense sequoia
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only on unload

desert heron
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its just the stepper turning on and off

dense sequoia
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but its al making the filament tangle

desert heron
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did it do a fast move first?

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you might need to tighten the screw a little bit. seems like it dosent move the filament like it should

dense sequoia
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1/2 turn ?

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1/4 turn

desert heron
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try 1/2

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maybe even 1

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the filament will get slight marks on it but it shouldent be deep grooves

dense sequoia
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I really haven' t gotten the bowden length correct some sometimes it goes to the filadector sometimes is stops about 50mm short \

desert heron
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if you do a T0 dose it move a difrent amount or?

dense sequoia
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Running T0 now

desert heron
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it should move the exavt movment every time

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the TN might chnage it a bit so just make shure thats fully extended first

desert heron