#mhwilds_chat

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wind gorge
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they really meant it for 4 people

compact bear
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i suppose so

karmic turtle
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Or LBG becoming even stronger for no reason

wind gorge
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not that you can't try, I imagine by now all weapons have cleared solo

wind gorge
karmic turtle
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They fixed it in such a strange way I don't understand

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It's been like this since they introduced LBG actually

wind gorge
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I play hammer because I have fun with the kit and how different it behaves from when I play lbg

magic girder
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Everyone else does

karmic turtle
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Why make dragon ammos stronger but give you only 4 (14 pre wilds / 24 now) ammos

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When they could make it like the other ammos

wind gorge
compact bear
magic girder
compact bear
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lmao

magic girder
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The lance one is hilarious

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2 fortify + heroics

Still took 48 minutes

wind gorge
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he usually goes to the fulgurite pillars you can drop if he starts in the savannah

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think that's the most time wasting flight

magic girder
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I never have him fly anywhere but his arena and the camps right outside of it, so never learned any of that

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Usually dead before he has a chance to go anywhere else

bitter fossil
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Irritates me how sometimes He'll be getting ready to leave and I hit em with Lure pod and the game tells me the lure was effective and he leaves to the nest anyway then comes right back if I sit there and wait

coarse silo
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now that im playing FU i get more and more why people called 4U FU 2

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does that mean wilds isnt 4U 2 and is actually FU 3minotoThinking

magic girder
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Wilds is MH1 7

burnt bluff
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that either means you've counted only some of the portables

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Or you got 2 extra mainlines out of nowhere

magic girder
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I counted risebreak

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MH1
MHFU
MH3U
MH4U
MHWI
MHSB
MHWilds

cyan hearth
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pretty inconsistent way of counting the titles

magic girder
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Also my joke is being under too much scrutiny

cyan hearth
cyan hearth
pseudo river
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🙃 omega

tawny onyx
pseudo river
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It's ok thanks. Just resting from gemless hunts 😭

storm spoke
storm spoke
upbeat yoke
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anyone wanna trade crowns? i have my list at my LFG thread

tawny onyx
storm spoke
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🫣

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I cart twice all of the sudden my sos people are gone and my trusty kai, mina and alyssa always come back.

tawny onyx
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Get rich or cart trying

storm spoke
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🥀

magic girder
storm spoke
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Focks is here

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Im cooked

mild sedge
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AT arkveld deals so much damage 🫠

magic girder
mild sedge
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Its like old school mh where you get just enough def to not get one shot 🫠

bitter fossil
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He does a lil bit of dmg WewedWud

mild sedge
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I dont know how many times ive fought the mfer but i still cart here and there

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I dont think ive killed him with zero carts

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Except that one time i randomly joined that sos quest. We failed that but i didnt cart lol

storm spoke
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Exactly ATveld does too much 🥀🥀🥀

bitter fossil
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It took me a good few hunts before I got him with without carts

storm spoke
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We need temporal rn

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ATveld keeps hitting me mid air with my bugstick while i aura farm

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All of a sudden 3 hunters leave my sos

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Am i not trying hard enough as a aerial ig user

bitter fossil
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I still don't know how to utilize IG, I kinda just like flying ratadoggo

storm spoke
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I like flying too

bitter fossil
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once I did accidentally hit an offset

storm spoke
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Even if the hunt takes me 40 minutes plus

bitter fossil
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and I have no idea how I did it

storm spoke
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It had a offset in the beginning frames iirc

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I gotta look up rage gaming immortal aerial ig builds

bitter fossil
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I am due for a new meta set from rage gaming catHaircut

storm spoke
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We all love rage gaming builds

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And i speak for everyone

bitter fossil
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on your soul they have the greatest builds

waxen raptor
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Sounds like some kinda YouTuber

bitter fossil
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no way

waxen raptor
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I trust you guys more than I trust youtuber builds xD

bitter fossil
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So you should (for the most part) ratadoggo

storm spoke
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Trust me and use rage gaming builds

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Immortal builds ftw

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I have no malice

mild sedge
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I wish immortal builds work on at veld

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Mfer deals so much damage that you literally die in one combo lol

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And correct me if im wrong but the immortal builds feature zoh / arkveld pieces; both of which have negative dragon res kekw

calm linden
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Ele res doesn't do much anyway

manic pivot
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immoral unlikeable builds

calm linden
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If only those "immortal" builds actually did something significant

manic pivot
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its good they dont

mild sedge
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The fight is fun. Its just its so gosh darn stressful. I cant farm him for hours on end 🫠

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Fight needs focus. Feels like my neck and shoulders are tense the whole fight

manic pivot
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since thatd kinda be indicative of a failing in game design to eliminate a fail state like that especially if it hardly costs anything

magic girder
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I mean....there is that HH that out healed zohs downflame via stacking the recovery ups to 36x

manic pivot
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hence why berserk is very stupid

calm linden
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I just feel disappointment when I see someone use them

manic pivot
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the good thing is they dont really exist

calm linden
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I feel bad they think its actually doing something

magic girder
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If you only get hit once every 3 minutes or so, 2p ark is decent actually so you never have to heal

manic pivot
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the bad thing is that its a pretty bad nocebo that people really insist even when it doesnt exist

mild sedge
manic pivot
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w*lds has a lot of eat shit and chips and sustain becomes pretty nice to have so you can continue to stay aggressive

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ark2 is good enough for that

magic girder
storm spoke
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😭😭😭😭

mild sedge
manic pivot
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wilds already has the most obscene stuff you could want with just 3 lv1 slots

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like

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/t recoveryspeed3

worldly crestBOT
manic pivot
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x12 red hp recovery speed immediately upon being hit

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is effectively 50% dr with how red hp will effectively cease to exist outside of fireblight and poison

magic girder
manic pivot
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you really dont need any more than that

storm spoke
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We need moar

mild sedge
manic pivot
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and hh melody prob exists but also

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you dont need more than x12 recov spd

storm spoke
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We need recovery speed secret

magic girder
storm spoke
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Not enough

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67x speed when?

magic girder
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From the horns bubble

mild sedge
magic girder
manic pivot
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5m

mild sedge
manic pivot
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7.5 with prolonger 3 for prebuff

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prebuff pain

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bless magic for auto applying it

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but i hate prebuff

magic girder
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I just don't buff/prebuff

mild sedge
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I just eat food

magic girder
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🙄

manic pivot
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is necessary in runs

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since ta allows it because the timer is global

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so if you buffed and reset your run

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you keep the prev runs timer

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you cant have a clean slate without buffs

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without restarting the game

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its stupid

magic girder
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You can literally go to the training arena

manic pivot
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o right

magic girder
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It cancels all buffs except food

manic pivot
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still annoying

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yea

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and what do now

magic girder
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Either way, is a none real issue

manic pivot
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menu close quest, enter and exit training arena

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then post quest or whatever

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thats a lot more annoying menuing

magic girder
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Could also save pre buff and then in a failing run exit to menu without saving

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Either way this is such a specific only runner issue that I have zero sympathy

manic pivot
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yeah then you have to reload your game

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and even on an ssd wilds load times arent the best

magic girder
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It takes like, 20 seconds to exit to menu and then load the game back

manic pivot
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can you record that for me then

magic girder
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When im back from work I can yes

manic pivot
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that it would take 20s

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if it takes any more than that

magic girder
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I'll be sure to record and send it to you when im off of work in 7-8 hours

manic pivot
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then thatd be worse than just waiting the 20s to go back to the hub after start > right > accept > accept

magic girder
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You specifically were asking about buff canceling, which im pretty sure that doesnt do?

manic pivot
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or start accept accept if you have your menu set to remember or sth

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that doesnt do it, no, but if its more convenient with regards to menuing than reloading your save then its a good reason as to why ta/rr rules just let you prebuff

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even though traditionally we’d rather have runs be a clean slate

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prebuffing is stupid in that regard

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it wastes time and resources for runners who don’t use magic

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you can save scum, but thats also another form of magic in that regard

magic girder
manic pivot
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picking the buffs to apply and the order at which to do so before engaging was considered part of the time in the run overall

magic girder
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This whole thing is really a speedrunner mindset issue rather than an issue with the game itself

manic pivot
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right, if we’re also looking at this from the casual mindset as well

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as a “casual” id want to be very prepared for a run so id pay the annoying premium of doing a food ritual before every quest with mdds, mega armorskins, seeds, powders, immunizers, etc etc

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because those all contribute to making the hunt more casual and brain off

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27 raw is not something to scoff at

magic girder
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From a casual perspective a lot would be too lazy to buff in general

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Added you wanting to buff is your prerogative

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The game allowing it pre doesnt change anything

You could very much go into any older game and decide to consume all the buffs you want at the start of a quest all the same

manic pivot
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it doesnt really make sense to skip 10% damage when that compounds into 10% faster flinches

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and actually leads into significantly faster hunts

magic girder
manic pivot
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my mindset as a casual is “least effort most gains”

magic girder
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Casuals dont care about flinch rates

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Most dont even know what a flinch threshold is

manic pivot
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and thats simply my casual intuition speaking

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yea, you can call that the uninformed audience or sth

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what even defines a “casual”

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stupidly vague term

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dont even know why that argument is being entertained

magic girder
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Anyways, most of the playerbase I see

Drunk a demondrug

Then eat a might seed and powder on the way to the fight

And never reapply

manic pivot
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if you cant define that audience and their prerogatives and objectives clearly

magic girder
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To be fair, this entire conversation isnt a good one anyways

Prebuffing doesnt matter in the grand scheme if thing unless your a runner who cares about times

manic pivot
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enough so that most reasonable people with access to it would use magic to prebuff automatically

magic girder
magic girder
manic pivot
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in old gen, they costed an action to apply

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and youd see runners skip them

magic girder
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Casual hunters wont care

manic pivot
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if it was deemed unnecessary for the time

magic girder
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Your very speedrun pilled

manic pivot
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even in casual play you would skip them because they took a fair bit to pop

magic girder
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A lot of the people I know dont even bother to use any buffs anyways

magic girder
manic pivot
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skipping 27 raw is a pretty bad idea

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especially when it’s “free”

magic girder
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"It takes too long to put on a pre buff set and use all the buffs"

manic pivot
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i think its reasonable to have a mentality that separates the hunt and the prep phases

magic girder
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Wv usually your arguments have substance, but you're standing on sand with this one

manic pivot
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and we hate unnecessarily long and annoying prep phases

magic girder
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Then dont prep

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Problem solved

manic pivot
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but its alright to integrate the ritual as a part of the hunt since that costs time in the hunt

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and has a tangible opportunity cost in gameplay

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as a prebuff though, it just becomes an autoinclude and autoassume

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especially when 27 raw is 27 raw

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and x3 recov spd

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and whatever environment drink is applicable

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and whatever amount of def seedpowder + armorskin amounts to

magic girder
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Can literally argue to just doing it in the hunt too

If your not a speedrunner, you dont care about "opportunity cost"

manic pivot
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since those arent negligible amounts

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yeah thats the mentality of an idiot

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opportunity costs always exist

magic girder
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The same none speedrunner thats gonna spend all that time buffing before a hunt

Would just do it during

manic pivot
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and should always be considered

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in casual play, the 27 raw is an autoinclude

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because its 27 raw

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wtf even comes close

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if you dont do it, you’re uninformed or apply a different definition of lazy

magic girder
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Maximum efficiency poisoning at its finest

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This entire conversation is boring me, zero substance behind it and just straw poking

Ima go read

manic pivot
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just kill prebuffing

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its an annoying system to deal with along with everything else global

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even in casual play

storm spoke
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Anyone wanna play nightreign?

manic pivot
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because if i spend those resources, id rather they be in the hunt

storm spoke
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I got three barred by camp rats and miranda’s blossom D5 tho

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They hit too hard

manic pivot
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because at least then i could weigh if its worth dumping a seed/powder/mdd/immu as an action or if i should just not care

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as otherwise they would be autoincludes

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if my casual imperative is to “get the hunt done” (and done here meaning with certainty, not with time, but the two tend to correlate)

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(since faster hunts necessarily means less chances at messing up, faster flinches compound on that)

magic girder
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You take the exact same amount of time to use the buffs in and out of the hunt, if you dont care about your hunt time you using them in the hunt doesnt change anything

In fact in a lazier perspective you can just buff on the way to the mu anyways via seikret

manic pivot
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this is likely an efficiency argument, but thats kinda just how things reason out if you have a sliver of game sense and knowledge

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even if you play casually

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or “casually”

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seikret buffing costs an action where it isnt dashing

magic girder
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Speedrun poisoning is all this is

Your so used to running the game as efficiently as possible, just the thought of not caring about that is beyond you

manic pivot
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same old same old with world buffing or rise buffing, it costs not getting to a fight faster

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and thats enough for me to not care

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or to care in a certain way

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wtf is speedrun poisoning

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is that just jester talk for “applying principles from running into casual play”

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because like

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no shit

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you learn from runs to be better

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are you stupid

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you learn that you’re applying a number to the monster

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and that what you want to do is to make that number bigger

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with the least effort or most consistent setup

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thats just common sense

magic girder
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Why do I give a shit when im not a runner than I lose 5-10 seconds eating buffs in a run

manic pivot
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its annoying because it seeps into the prep

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and i dont want to prep

magic girder
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Then dont prep

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Easy

manic pivot
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the most annoying part about running, and actually about casual play too if you care enough

magic girder
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Its that simple

manic pivot
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is the menuing

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yea, who tf would skip 27 raw

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think of it like this

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who tf would skip on 2 stacks of guts tenacity

magic girder
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I run meme builds

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I have fun

manic pivot
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yea and so do i

storm spoke
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Don’t lie you run meta catburglar

manic pivot
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you’re just an idiot who uses fun as an argument

magic girder
storm spoke
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Very meta

manic pivot
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much like a lot do in ig chat

storm spoke
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Best weapon for bludgeoner fr fr

manic pivot
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if you want to argue for keeping prebuffs in the name of “fun”

storm spoke
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But instead you get wack blue sharp

magic girder
manic pivot
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then argue much the same for the gacha sparkles you get when you waste 30 minute gambling on one of five gog weapons

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because someone in capcom thought that was fun

magic girder
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Ive already made my stance on rng systems and that id rather expensive but set systems

manic pivot
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straw poking how so

magic girder
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That at least is an actual thing to be mad at

manic pivot
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the fuck does that mean

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define it

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do you mean punching at a strawman

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or grasping at straws

magic girder
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Also called a strawman yes 🙄

manic pivot
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no one ive ever talked to has said “straw poking”

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no english speaker i know of has ever said that phrase

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regardless

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where’s the strawman then

magic girder
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You are heavily exaggerating and distorting the entire premise

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Your using a "opportunity cost" of 1 second per pill, 3 per drink, less if you have speed eater

To show any semblance of how "damaging" this is

manic pivot
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and if you really think prebuffing is healthy to the game or necessary in any way as opposed to the alternative in previous iterations where prebuffing rituals in the prequest was limited to choosing a meal

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then under what basis and framework can you say that this system is beneficial

magic girder
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Literally nothing stops me from spending 10-15 seconds at the beginning if a hunt consuming all those buffs anyways

manic pivot
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ive already said that prebuffing is stupid under the notion that it is, to a reasonable person, an assumed autoinclude

magic girder
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Nothing except being a speedrunner

magic girder
manic pivot
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yeah, and your admission to that means its strictly beneficial to get rid of it

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since at least one group benefits from its removal

magic girder
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If I dont give a shit about time, why do I care about buffing time loss

magic girder
manic pivot
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while no other group of note loses out from its removal

unreal orbit
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who the fuck likes prebuffing lmfao

manic pivot
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then ive presented my points against that

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being that its an autoinclude, wastes resources regardless

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and is just an annoying waste of time prehunt

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because 27 raw is fucking 27 raw

unreal orbit
manic pivot
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you may skip out on it for “fun” but by all reasonable accounts

unreal orbit
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i also do love having 3 extra level 1 slots for free

manic pivot
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thats 1.5-2 stacks of fucking tenacity

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and we all know how dumb lord3 was when that came out

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had to shove it in even if rey was a shit set conceptually back then

magic girder
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Im saying there is fundamental no difference in your time sink if you buff before or during a hunt

And the only time you see that time difference is when your speedrunning and as such want to start buffed to shave off those few secinds at the start

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And you actively are blowing it out of proportion

manic pivot
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i think any reasonable person

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would like 27 raw

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if it came for “free”

unreal orbit
manic pivot
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free being the stupid prebuff ritual

unreal orbit
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so at the very least thats +60s of uptime for the buffs

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which is like what, 10-15% of the hunt?

manic pivot
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yea

magic girder
unreal orbit
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possibly more depending on the monster and competence

magic girder
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Of which most wont even bither to spend the time putting on a prebuff set anyways

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Cause why bother

manic pivot
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normal players would still care about times, because they want a clear, and less time spent hunting

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is less time spent potentially failing

unreal orbit
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i am a normal player and i dont have access to rule 6 because pisstation

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i still want to have the best clear times i can get

manic pivot
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it also becomes a natural objective to want faster clears too

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because grind game

magic girder
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God this entire conversation is so asinine I cant even enjoy it like normal

livid dove
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Convo do be something today lol

unreal orbit
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yea, game doesnt have any fights hard enough to feel good about clearing in general

coarse silo
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i can help with savage

pulsar plaza
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Oke will post lobby ID

autumn rampart
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ooo im down too

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gimme gimme

pulsar plaza
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Doneee

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Its my first savage omega so... rajangUncanny

autumn rampart
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i promise you wont be the only one to cart if it happens kekzu

pulsar plaza
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It up

coarse silo
pulsar plaza
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But randos failed me

pulsar plaza
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Also quest up

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Do I SOS last one?

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Lets gamble

coarse silo
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we're gonna have to, idk ur choice

pulsar plaza
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Thats fine

coarse silo
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i personally would rather u cancel the quest and make it support hunter only and add fabius and invite us to a link party

plucky flame
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i wonder what the highest hitzone in the series is

pulsar plaza
plucky flame
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surely the xu wu one has to be up there

pulsar plaza
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Does it work?

autumn rampart
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ewwww

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i dont want fatty fabby

coarse silo
pulsar plaza
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Oke up again

autumn rampart
pulsar plaza
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I MISSCLICKED AND DEPARTED

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Im so sorry

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Its okay we watch cutscene ig rajangUncanny

coarse silo
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dw about it

plucky flame
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they should bring almudron back

pulsar plaza
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AAAAAA

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Im runnin

autumn rampart
pulsar plaza
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Fuuuu carved a lil

coarse silo
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ez

pulsar plaza
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Thank u so much guys

autumn rampart
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easy squeezy

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sadFelyne i should play this more

pulsar plaza
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I wanted the armor... can we do it more?

autumn rampart
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sure

coarse silo
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time to farm this guy

autumn rampart
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should i change outfits

pulsar plaza
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I'll see how many I need

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Not many hopefully

autumn rampart
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think its only like what, 8 2.0s?

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i forgor

pulsar plaza
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Oh its just 3...

coarse silo
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remember u also want to limit break that armor

autumn rampart
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well i mean both weapons and the talismans

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oh yeahhhh ascending i forget thats a thing

pulsar plaza
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Ascend?

coarse silo
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oh ok

pulsar plaza
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Think I got everything

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Checking

autumn rampart
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remember male and female sets are different

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i think its 6 tickets total if you're not gonna do the two weapons in IG and SnS layereds

pulsar plaza
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Yup got everything

autumn rampart
pulsar plaza
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For now no so its good

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Imma go to bathroom rq

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Okay am back

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Need an arkveld gem for the rest of it

autumn rampart
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i hear at arkveld guaranteed drops a gem on carve

coarse silo
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i think i have a guaranteed ark gem

autumn rampart
pulsar plaza
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I posted one

autumn rampart
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one's posted up

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dw

coarse silo
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oh nm u have one

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7 start ark baby