𠀀𠀁 (U+20000 U+20001)

[tender basin]

BEfOE subthread for 𠀀𠀁 ({20000}{20001} in brace notation)

Notes

{x-2}{x} + {x-1}{x} = {x+1}{x} pretty consistently
table userscript #1487374419361005598 message

Todo

TODO: see if #1487374419361005598 message can give us extra elements
TODO: figure out how to get the canvas we all used filled with MANY elements

Links

FFFD suppressor (reroutes them to =): #1487374419361005598 message

{20000}{20001} post-hiatus GLOBAL

[v1.ic](#1487374419361005598 message) ([constituents](#1487374419361005598 message))

For pasting 👍

00 𠀀   01 𠀁   02 𠀂   03 𠀃   04 𠀄   05 𠀅   06 𠀆   07 𠀇
08 𠀈   09 𠀉   0a 𠀊   0b 𠀋   0c 𠀌   0d 𠀍   0e 𠀎   0f 𠀏
10 𠀐   11 𠀑   12 𠀒   13 𠀓   14 𠀔   15 𠀕   16 𠀖   17 𠀗
18 𠀘   19 𠀙   1a 𠀚   1b 𠀛   1c 𠀜   1d 𠀝   1e 𠀞   1f 𠀟
20 𠀠   21 𠀡   22 𠀢   23 𠀣   24 𠀤   25 𠀥   26 𠀦   27 𠀧
28 𠀨   29 𠀩   2a 𠀪   2b 𠀫   2c 𠀬   2d 𠀭   2e 𠀮   2f 𠀯
30 𠀰   31 𠀱   32 𠀲   33 𠀳   34 𠀴   35 𠀵   36 𠀶   37 𠀷
38 𠀸   39 𠀹   3a 𠀺   3b 𠀻   3c 𠀼   3d 𠀽   3e 𠀾   3f 𠀿
40 𠁀   41 𠁁   42 𠁂   43 𠁃   44 𠁄   45 𠁅   46 𠁆   47 𠁇
48 𠁈   49 𠁉   4a 𠁊   4b 𠁋   4c 𠁌   4d 𠁍   4e 𠁎   4f 𠁏
50 𠁐   51 𠁑   52 𠁒   53 𠁓   54 𠁔   55 𠁕   56 𠁖   57 𠁗
58 𠁘   59 𠁙   5a 𠁚   5b 𠁛   5c 𠁜   5d 𠁝   5e 𠁞   5f 𠁟
60 𠁠   61 𠁡   62 𠁢   63 𠁣   64 𠁤   65 𠁥   66 𠁦   67 𠁧
68 𠁨   69 𠁩   6a 𠁪   6b 𠁫   6c 𠁬   6d 𠁭   6e 𠁮   6f 𠁯
70 𠁰   71 𠁱   72 𠁲   73 𠁳   74 𠁴   75 𠁵   76 𠁶   77 𠁷
78 𠁸   79 𠁹   7a 𠁺   7b 𠁻   7c 𠁼   7d 𠁽   7e 𠁾   7f 𠁿

{0} ␀ 𠀀 | {10} ␐ 𠀐 | {20} 𠀠  0 𠀰  @ 𠁀  P 𠁐  ` 𠁠  p 𠁰
{1} ␁ 𠀁 | {11} ␑ 𠀑 |    ! 𠀡  1 𠀱  A 𠁁  Q 𠁑  a 𠁡  q 𠁱
{2} ␂ 𠀂 | {12} ␒ 𠀒 |    " 𠀢  2 𠀲  B 𠁂  R 𠁒  b 𠁢  r 𠁲
{3} ␃ 𠀃 | {13} ␓ 𠀓 |    # 𠀣  3 𠀳  C 𠁃  S 𠁓  c 𠁣  s 𠁳
{4} ␄ 𠀄 | {14} ␔ 𠀔 |    $ 𠀤  4 𠀴  D 𠁄  T 𠁔  d 𠁤  t 𠁴
{5} ␅ 𠀅 | {15} ␕ 𠀕 |    % 𠀥  5 𠀵  E 𠁅  U 𠁕  e 𠁥  u 𠁵
{6} ␆ 𠀆 | {16} ␖ 𠀖 |    & 𠀦  6 𠀶  F 𠁆  V 𠁖  f 𠁦  v 𠁶
{7} ␇ 𠀇 | {17} ␗ 𠀗 |    ' 𠀧  7 𠀷  G 𠁇  W 𠁗  g 𠁧  w 𠁷
{8} ␈ 𠀈 | {18} ␘ 𠀘 |    ( 𠀨  8 𠀸  H 𠁈  X 𠁘  h 𠁨  x 𠁸
{9} ␉ 𠀉 | {19} ␙ 𠀙 |    ) 𠀩  9 𠀹  I 𠁉  Y 𠁙  i 𠁩  y 𠁹
{a} ␊ 𠀊 | {1a} ␚ 𠀚 |    * 𠀪  : 𠀺  J 𠁊  Z 𠁚  j 𠁪  z 𠁺
{b} ␋ 𠀋 | {1b} ␛ 𠀛 |    + 𠀫  ; 𠀻  K 𠁋  [ 𠁛  k 𠁫  { 𠁻
{c} ␌ 𠀌 | {1c} ␜ 𠀜 |    , 𠀬  < 𠀼  L 𠁌  \ 𠁜  l 𠁬  | 𠁼
{d} ␍ 𠀍 | {1d} ␝ 𠀝 |    - 𠀭  = 𠀽  M 𠁍  ] 𠁝  m 𠁭  } 𠁽
{e} ␎ 𠀎 | {1e} ␞ 𠀞 |    . 𠀮  > 𠀾  N 𠁎  ^ 𠁞  n 𠁮  ~ 𠁾
{f} ␏ 𠀏 | {1f} ␟ 𠀟 |    / 𠀯  ? 𠀿  O 𠁏  _ 𠁟  o 𠁯  ␡ 𠁿

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ok

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4th ever message lmao

[tender basin]

ok let's get back into it

WAIT CANVAS

UHH

[frigid plume]

btw do you have a tooltips script

it cant see the tooltips

my tooltips script disappeared randomly

(like literally its not even in tampermonkey scripts list)

[tender basin]

look in #1424975461372395601 top

it's there somewhere

v1 constituents

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nice

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which message

theres so many

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at the top one

look for 'tooltip

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Ok it works

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🎉 gg

oh god i made it load every recipe for FFFD spam

mistake

my browser froze 😭

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imma make a new spreadsheet

i honestly dont remember what the old spreadsheet is called anymore

and frankly i dont want to have to recheck all the data in that

(i might steal the depth explorer data tho)

(if i find it)

[tender basin]

These might not be in there

I'm not sure

I mean I have sim now but

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what is this

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What now 😭

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what does the number 6320 mean

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I think 6320 elements

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(just curious)

oh alr

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v1 has 8333

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so this one is save 8335

wait did i make 2 new elements

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TODO: see if #1487374419361005598 message can give us extra elements

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ok

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TODO: figure out how to get the canvas we all used filled with MANY elements

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Left isn't in v1

Neither is right

Checking the 3 canvases

:3 canvases

asd_ic canvas

PeasyPeasing canvas

pancake9912 canvas

some are missing. I remember having a larger canvas which like went up or something

wait no that's with the 3-chars

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this is 3chars

i didnt have a 2char canvas (i think)

it might be easier to just regex search for all 2 length characters

and then just get a list and turn it into codepoints

rather than make another large canvas like this

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btw

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?

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don't trust Nothing

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yeah ik

annoying

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Disable your cache in network

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done

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I'm currently using this one btw

I deem it

pancake_to_clover

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ok there are 766 elements which are 2 characters long

according to the savefile analyzer

idk how to export this list tho

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convert to JSON

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done

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you get {"elements": [{"text": "A", "emoji": "..."}, ...], "recipes": {/* dont worry about it */}}

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that should be only 2chars

hopefully

oh i think it got the equals signs too

thats fine those can be removed manually

[tender basin]

uhh what did you want from this again

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a list of the 2chars

oh it didnt export only the 2chars

(and now my notepad is not responding bc i accidentally pasted all of it in lmao)

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this is why you use python

or js ig

ok i have d and l

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?

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l is just d["elements"] converted to the text

d is the savefile JSON object

that's how many you have

wait subtract one

this includes ==

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i already did that

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here

[tender basin]

do we even have any {201

stuff

because your file doesn't

I might 𠀀𠀁-ify the userscript

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wdym

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If a character uses only U+20000 to U+2007f, the whitespace 1/3-token display is replaced with a subtraction of 0x20000 codepoint

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these?

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All characters we have are {20000} to {2007f]

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oh ok

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We don't have any {201xx} or {(<200)xx}

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i should prob expand my sheet

from 3f x 3f to 7f x 7f

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sorry wait no

only in the savefile you gave me*

anyways gimme a sec

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nope

that was how it was before hiatus

i remember that at least

only up to 7f

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I'm gonna update the userscript

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progress

it's incomplete btw don't use it

i'm gonna incrememnt it to 1.0.1 once done

and update clover rants :3 (( hi,,

ngl the issue is i'm assuming it only goes from 0~7f

20000~2007f*

whatever i can always update it if/when we get to 200ff or something

20080 is more realistic but 200ff would be the roadblock there i think

[lean sorrel]

𠁆𠁩𠁲𠁥

[tender basin]

{f0}{a0}{81}{86}{f0}{a0}{81}{a9}{f0}{a0}{81}{b2}{f0}{a0}{81}{a5}

wait no that's wrong 😭

{20046}{20069}{20072}{20065}

Fire in ASCII

wait errorplex are you calling this fire???

id7k you've always been cryptic sometimes

and that's saying something coming from me because I can be VERY cryptic at time s 😭

Experimental, not guaranteed to work

don't use this yet lemme test it first 😭

works, just rly tiny

also this deletes the other tooltip which in hindsight maybe a bad idea

I'm gonna make a quick and dirty edit

just replace {200 in the other one with { i think

according to this shouldn't it be ['instance-tooltip']

wait no i didn't see the ...

uhhh

how can i make the 𠀀 tooltip larger without affecting the 🔣≈ tooltip

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idk

what does the stx etx stuff mean

[tender basin]

whats stx etx?????

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in the tooltip next to 20000

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ohh thag

its like

symbol for U+0002

symbol for U+0003

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oh ok

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ok back

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maybe I'll implement chevrons guillemets in the main tooltip as a setting

actually no i already have an ASCII representation on the botom

I'll just always use brace notation on the top

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complete

I'm going to merge the name back

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{x-2}{x} + {x-1}{x} = {x+1}{x} pretty consistently

worked for 0x0b0a and 0x0d0c

@frigid plume when u back do you have 𠀀𠀖

0x0016

the next one

[tender basin]

U+FFFD suppressor

if (!document.querySelector('.infinite-craft').__vue__._fffd_suppressor_craftApi) {
    document.querySelector('.infinite-craft').__vue__._fffd_suppressor_craftApi = (
        document.querySelector('.infinite-craft').__vue__.craftApi
    );
}
document.querySelector('.infinite-craft').__vue__.craftApi = async (a, b) => {
    const _res = await document.querySelector('.infinite-craft').__vue__._fffd_suppressor_craftApi(a, b);
    if (!_res) {
        return _res;
    }
    const txt = _res.text;
    if (txt.includes("\ufffd")) {
        return {"text": "=", "emoji": "⬜"};
    }
    return _res;
}

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surely we wait for another undefined 😭

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obtained 2-codepoint sequences

https://www.desmos.com/calculator/yvyvwsgvq2

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everything with gray text underneath is new i think

CONSOLE SCRIPT (not userscript)

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ok anyways i now have perfect placement

console script, updated

[frigid plume]

no unfortunately

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yooo

hold on lemme set up that table userscript thing

its super laggy for me

oh well

(also igtg in 30 mins bc of some annoying personal reasons)

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no unfortunately

The shape of the found 2char chart is really funny to me

big systematic progress on the top

and then a few random lines and then a random rectangle in the bottom right

this save has the new {0c} row elements and some random new elements in the far-away rectangle

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this should have lines at {3b} and {2d}

Names for the different quadrants (yes ik they're not really quadrants but you get the point. the large squares or whatever)

the multiples of 5 are the lines containing x = y

and quadrant 15 is practically the same set as "the faraway rectangle"

04, 08, 09, 12 and 13 have no known elements

and either 01 or 02 has the most elements (im not sure which of the two, they are both very densely populated)

anyway igtg now so bye ig

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ok im back

[tender basin]

im less active bc locking in

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btw why is this green

i dont have it in my save

[tender basin]

it's in v1

green = in v1

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is it not in the clover to pancake save?

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once a v2 is made will the green be updated?

Four most difficult characters

{16} specifically is weird because unlike {2d} or {3b} there's nothing inherently bad about it

its just that {00}{16} is difficult for some inexplicable reason

[tender basin]

no 😔

it doesn't dynamically update

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is there any progress on this

[tender basin]

table userscript #1487374419361005598 message

[tender basin]

What's the quadrant 15 entries like

Can we emulate it

(to test if an element is the only entry, probably download & corrupt your savefile by deleting that element then scan for missing elements)

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not sure lemme check

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couldnt i just pick a random q15 and check which ancestor q15 was the first one to be obtained in the lineage

@tender basin
https://infinibrowser.wiki/item/01kn0t0nvpmtkm0p585j8st2p8

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also i suddenly cant combine everything

(everything is now Nothing)

[tender basin]

yeah it got WAY worse

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well uhm

can we even do anyhting

[tender basin]

play ic in sim only 😭🙏

anyways any ideas

𠁆𠁩𠁲𠁥 Fire
𠁗𠁩𠁮𠁤 Wind
𠁦𠁩𠁲𠁥 fire
𠁷𠁩𠁮𠁤 wind

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what does this mean

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no unfortuantely

[tender basin]

😭

what is one even meant to do here

just make more codepoints?

🥺 😭😭

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idk

i dont even know if this is provable

[tender basin]

chuck me your savefile

I'm gonna make v2

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c9

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oh god

i just corrupted my savefile

i pressed ctrl-s on it in a text editor 😭

should've known that wouold NOT end well

welp

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rip

[tender basin]

it wascalled pancake_to_clover_with_table so i don't think i had much more

[tender basin]

do you have all of these btw

{7}{7}

{b}{9}

{b}{a}

{d}{a}

{d}{b}

{e}{d}

[tender basin]

nvm it's just this

0x16c save has more i think actually but

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lemme check

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?

{b}{9}, {b}{a}, {b}{b}

{c}{9}, {d}{9}, {d}{a}, {d}{b}

and {e}{d}

so i do have all of them @tender basin

[tender basin]

then why is mine bigger 😭

[frigid plume]

idk 😭

btw could you make a save with everything longer than 2 characters removed

that way i can spam the random button and only combine 2chars

and then we might get random entries into new quadrants or smth

[tender basin]

i can limit the random button to 2chars only

maybe

[tender basin]

what is every userscript you're using

i need to see which random button you're using so I can modify it

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idk why i have 2 different helpers on

but i do have 2 random buttons

[tender basin]

😭😭😭

what the flip is this

anyways chuck me the gameroman patch i can modify that maybe

actually wait no lemme just

i could make a console script or something

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i installed a bunch of userscripts and then turned off the ones i didnt use

and ig i accidentally turned on both helpers lmao

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@frigid plume

replace the gameroman one with this

the random button with the silly-looking 2 will try to use 2-char elements only

and i think i explicitly avoided ==

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thx

[tender basin]

(This only happens if your base element first element is 𠀀𠀁 tho)

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ok we still have one issue

fake nothings

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yep

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idk how to fix that one

lol

[tender basin]

the solution there is sim

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wait so this means

that the result is stored in the database?

its just the first person to try gets a Nothing

[tender basin]

i think what happens is like

user asks for King + Ocean

provider returns an error immediately

so you get Nothing but there's a decent delay while neal's code asks the provider

eventually either

1. provider returns King + Ocean or Nothing or something like that

then neal stores this and you get Nothing coming back much faster than before

or

2. provide returns a result e.g. Poseidon

and now neal stores that

so future people can craft Poseidon without a problem

that's my theory tho

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why does the provider error tho

did they put in a rate limit or smth

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id7k 🤷

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hi

"hi "

[finite temple]

what is this about

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befoe

[finite temple]

what's befoe

[tender basin]

base elements from other elements

#1299426533492129905

[cedar sparrow]

so is it about {20000} and {20001} separatly or together ?