#๐ฉ๐ง ๐ฉ๐ฆ Base Elements From Other Elements
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๐ ๐ is the original element
right?
answeing my own question
yesy
yes it is
why are you on mobile ๐ญ
also to the makers of noto sans, just expand your font to support cjk ext b
its not that hard you can just smush your existing characters together in most cases
is it done?
still cooking
my save only has 54 elements
oh
ok added a very useful tooltip
so i gotta code it manually
thats why its taking a while
yeah i gotta code a merger
is it the same one im using>
or do you have a better one
bc this one aint giving me the codepoints
done I think
try this
it has all the recipes in it too
(that's the main hard part of merging saves)
(I should totally code a good savefile merger)
this is what I have (not merged with clover's)
anything that doesn't contain 20000?
wait let me merge that in too
shouldn't be too hard
why is that gz
is that openable with analyzer
if you give me a .ic or .json i can work with that
upload to ic then export
hang on im reworking my code to work with two IC JSON files
instead of one IC JSON file and whatever my weird craftRand format is
can't open this
-# @maiden crest (forgot to ping)
I can't do anything about it
uh
can you download it as a .ic file
.ic and .json I can work with
(bc save file analyzer on ib lets me turn .ic into .json)
wait im dumb
i can just put the gz into save file analyzer
wait what is even happening
should work
^ call this version 1 I guess
actually no version 3
because?
3 save files?
anyways if someone gets anything major ping me and I can merge some ig, idk
didn't see this lol
only 63 items?
oh this thing?
I'll just show 20000 ig
20000 to 2ffff? supplementary ideographic plane
can we have 1 person just keep incrementing higher from the start
and then the other 2 people do random combining
?
๐ค
there is this element with two 20000s
wait did I syntaxerror my own save
oops
oh it's because it uses True and not true
bc i use python
lemme fix that
stops at 20015
either way if it didn't it'd stop at 2003f
why no fds
try getting sth without 20000
that seems hard
bc the ai will see
"ok this 20000 part is shared between the two elements, so my result should also have this 20000 part"
surely
ok so the things we want to do are
in easiest to hardest order:
- get 20016 in an element
- get an elemetn with no 20000
first discovery jumpscare
- get element from another block somethow
recipe?
could you put all of the 20000 through 20015 in the chat
for easy copypasting
im so confused
makes sense, just follows the pattern
{20000} is ๐
{20001} is ๐
{20002} is ๐
{20003} is ๐
{20004} is ๐
{20005} is ๐
{20006} is ๐
{20007} is ๐
{20008} is ๐
{20009} is ๐
{2000a} is ๐
{2000b} is ๐
{2000c} is ๐
{2000d} is ๐
{2000e} is ๐
{2000f} is ๐
{20010} is ๐
{20011} is ๐
{20012} is ๐
{20013} is ๐
{20014} is ๐
{20015} is ๐
( {20016} is ๐ )
๐ ๐ ๐ ๐
๐ ๐
๐ ๐
๐ ๐ ๐ ๐
๐ ๐ ๐ ๐
๐ ๐ ๐ ๐
๐ ๐ and {20016}๐
no im done
its fine
add 20016 as well ๐
oh wait
is that 20016 or is it the other one
im assuming that is 20016
and the other one is 20017
idk
ok so the other one is 20017
๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐
๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐
๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐
two consecutive 20000s? nope
btw which chars do we have 2 in a row of
out of the ones we have access to rn
not a lot
only 01, 05, 0d and 14 right now i think
we also have this element with two 0cs but there is an 0d in the middle
recipe?
also you can prob get triple 15 from triple 13 + triple 14
idk if we can finally get 16 that way tho, probbaly not
Oh yall doing chinese symbols
cjk ext b, not just regular chinese
they aren't chinese I think
so the ai doesnt know what they are
I'm not sure what they are tbh
it just sees the bytes
lol
they are
are they even in training data
20000 is an alternate form of "ah"
in non-nerd speak
20001 is an archaic version of the number 7
do people actually use these to count
whats the recipe for triple 13????
i found triple 06, i also have double 06
this is double 06
hang on one sec
and triple 06 is just 06 + double 06
i can't check bc i have to reload
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copypaste tool here
try combine
can we get double alphabet
i still use python lol
I ALMOST SENT THAT IN A BIG SERVER NO CHATTING CHANNEL ๐ญ anyways
can you look at the recipe for 13-15?
using helper
surely
excuse me
oh is the savefile corrupted ๐ญ
it's probably an incorrect recipe isn't it
ok wait
NEW RULE DON'T TRUST CLOVER TAMPERING WITH SAVEFILES
i have no clue
is my computer somehow SO COOKED
that it mixed up two network requests????
well if it mixed up stuff then one of the other combinations you tried outputted that rihgt?
so we have triple 13, it's just that....we lost the recipe ๐ญ
anyways i manually checked this recipe, should be correct
am i missing something or...?
another double
upwards lineage
downwards lineage
can you tell that I'm tired rn bc im mixing both types
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ok
but you still didnt explain this
this is correct right
wdym
look at the thing i replied to
compare that to the lineage you posted
its another mixed up recipe
my image and your image are right on top of each other
compare
the one i manually checked
@cedar lotus
they are the exact same
yeah and you got 00 13 00 15
and i got 00 13 00 15
same numbers right?
sob
anyways
i still can't figure out 00 13 15
D:
help us get ๐ ๐ ๐ please ๐
(00 13 15)
i have 13 05
idk how close
or how far
sdfjkdgshajkgaskghsdjkghsda @cedar lotus
triple 07
lemme check recipe
surely we get triple 13 from this
tirple 07, 08, 0a, 0b, 0c, 0d @cedar lotus
idk how to get triple 09
New list of known triples
triple 02, 03, 04
assuming {20000} is "zero"
we dont have anything ending in 20000
nor do we have anything without 20000 at all
ok so
nothing im trying is making triple 09
uhh
no luck with 0e either
although i did get this
New 3char, that's pretty rare
@cedar lotus dkflafjklfjdhagjkhsakgsdkads
idk how to get rid of the 03 tho
stops incrementing at 20
but 16, 17, 18, 19, 20 confirmed
banger
honestly you'd get stuck at 2003f if it keeps incrementing
you could possibly barrier break to get to 20040 but idk how feasible it'll be
what's 20040
you tried combining it back with 00 03 ?
u+20040
not yet
ill do that later
here's all the 3chars we have right now
left = middle char, top = last char
(first char is always 20000)
no i know but like
why would it stop then
on the chart
ask asd
its 2003f
look at the last two tokens of 2003f
what's special about 2003f
and 20040
copypaste tool repost
{20000} is ๐
{20001} is ๐
{20002} is ๐
{20003} is ๐
{20004} is ๐
{20005} is ๐
{20006} is ๐
{20007} is ๐
{20008} is ๐
{20009} is ๐
{2000a} is ๐
{2000b} is ๐
{2000c} is ๐
{2000d} is ๐
{2000e} is ๐
{2000f} is ๐
{20010} is ๐
{20011} is ๐
{20012} is ๐
{20013} is ๐
{20014} is ๐
{20015} is ๐
( {20016} is ๐ )
yeah and the ai's like "what do I do" since \xc0 invalid utf
oh right the new chars uhh
up to 20020
wait let me push to 3f
should I run depthexplorer or no
you can if you want
it seems like we are slowly gaining some semblance of tech tho
so I'd personally hold out for a few hours
@cedar lotus 20021 confirmed
youll need to add new chars again
๐คฃ
oh wait
you arleady added up to 3f
oh
well not yet but
yeah it likes skipping sometimes
{20000} is ๐
{20001} is ๐
{20002} is ๐
{20003} is ๐
{20004} is ๐
{20005} is ๐
{20006} is ๐
{20007} is ๐
{20008} is ๐
{20009} is ๐
{2000a} is ๐
{2000b} is ๐
{2000c} is ๐
{2000d} is ๐
{2000e} is ๐
{2000f} is ๐
{20010} is ๐
{20011} is ๐
{20012} is ๐
{20013} is ๐
{20014} is ๐
{20015} is ๐
{20016} is ๐
{20017} is ๐
{20018} is ๐
{20019} is ๐
{2001a} is ๐
{2001b} is ๐
{2001c} is ๐
{2001d} is ๐
{2001e} is ๐
{2001f} is ๐
{20020} is ๐
{20021} is ๐ ก
{20022} is ๐ ข
{20023} is ๐ ฃ
{20024} is ๐ ค
{20025} is ๐ ฅ
{20026} is ๐ ฆ
{20027} is ๐ ง
{20028} is ๐ จ
{20029} is ๐ ฉ
{2002a} is ๐ ช
{2002b} is ๐ ซ
{2002c} is ๐ ฌ
{2002d} is ๐ ญ
{2002e} is ๐ ฎ
{2002f} is ๐ ฏ
{20030} is ๐ ฐ
{20031} is ๐ ฑ
{20032} is ๐ ฒ
{20033} is ๐ ณ
{20034} is ๐ ด
{20035} is ๐ ต
{20036} is ๐ ถ
{20037} is ๐ ท
{20038} is ๐ ธ
{20039} is ๐ น
{2003a} is ๐ บ
{2003b} is ๐ ป
{2003c} is ๐ ผ
{2003d} is ๐ ฝ
{2003e} is ๐ พ
{2003f} is ๐ ฟ
Prepend 200
00 ๐ | 01 ๐ | 02 ๐ | 03 ๐
04 ๐ | 05 ๐
| 06 ๐ | 07 ๐
08 ๐ | 09 ๐ | 0a ๐ | 0b ๐
0c ๐ | 0d ๐ | 0e ๐ | 0f ๐
10 ๐ | 11 ๐ | 12 ๐ | 13 ๐
14 ๐ | 15 ๐ | 16 ๐ | 17 ๐
18 ๐ | 19 ๐ | 1a ๐ | 1b ๐
1c ๐ | 1d ๐ | 1e ๐ | 1f ๐
20 ๐ | 21 ๐ ก | 22 ๐ ข | 23 ๐ ฃ
24 ๐ ค | 25 ๐ ฅ | 26 ๐ ฆ | 27 ๐ ง
28 ๐ จ | 29 ๐ ฉ | 2a ๐ ช | 2b ๐ ซ
2c ๐ ฌ | 2d ๐ ญ | 2e ๐ ฎ | 2f ๐ ฏ
30 ๐ ฐ | 31 ๐ ฑ | 32 ๐ ฒ | 33 ๐ ณ
34 ๐ ด | 35 ๐ ต | 36 ๐ ถ | 37 ๐ ท
38 ๐ ธ | 39 ๐ น | 3a ๐ บ | 3b ๐ ป
3c ๐ ผ | 3d ๐ ฝ | 3e ๐ พ | 3f ๐ ฟ
what
hang on let me reformat
ok done
actually let me also do it vertically
ran out of space
00 ๐ | 04 ๐ | 08 ๐ | 0c ๐ | 10 ๐ | 14 ๐ | 18 ๐ | 1c ๐ | 20 ๐ | 24 ๐ ค | 28 ๐ จ | 2c ๐ ฌ | 30 ๐ ฐ | 34 ๐ ด | 38 ๐ ธ | 3c ๐ ผ
01 ๐ | 05 ๐
| 09 ๐ | 0d ๐ | 11 ๐ | 15 ๐ | 19 ๐ | 1d ๐ | 21 ๐ ก | 25 ๐ ฅ | 29 ๐ ฉ | 2d ๐ ญ | 31 ๐ ฑ | 35 ๐ ต | 39 ๐ น | 3d ๐ ฝ
02 ๐ | 06 ๐ | 0a ๐ | 0e ๐ | 12 ๐ | 16 ๐ | 1a ๐ | 1e ๐ | 22 ๐ ข | 26 ๐ ฆ | 2a ๐ ช | 2e ๐ ฎ | 32 ๐ ฒ | 36 ๐ ถ | 3a ๐ บ | 3e ๐ พ
03 ๐ | 07 ๐ | 0b ๐ | 0f ๐ | 13 ๐ | 17 ๐ | 1b ๐ | 1f ๐ | 23 ๐ ฃ | 27 ๐ ง | 2b ๐ ซ | 2f ๐ ฏ | 33 ๐ ณ | 37 ๐ ท | 3b ๐ ป | 3f ๐ ฟ
00 ๐ | 01 ๐ | 02 ๐ | 03 ๐
04 ๐ | 05 ๐
| 06 ๐ | 07 ๐
08 ๐ | 09 ๐ | 0a ๐ | 0b ๐
0c ๐ | 0d ๐ | 0e ๐ | 0f ๐
10 ๐ | 11 ๐ | 12 ๐ | 13 ๐
14 ๐ | 15 ๐ | 16 ๐ | 17 ๐
18 ๐ | 19 ๐ | 1a ๐ | 1b ๐
1c ๐ | 1d ๐ | 1e ๐ | 1f ๐
20 ๐ | 21 ๐ ก | 22 ๐ ข | 23 ๐ ฃ
24 ๐ ค | 25 ๐ ฅ | 26 ๐ ฆ | 27 ๐ ง
28 ๐ จ | 29 ๐ ฉ | 2a ๐ ช | 2b ๐ ซ
2c ๐ ฌ | 2d ๐ ญ | 2e ๐ ฎ | 2f ๐ ฏ
30 ๐ ฐ | 31 ๐ ฑ | 32 ๐ ฒ | 33 ๐ ณ
34 ๐ ด | 35 ๐ ต | 36 ๐ ถ | 37 ๐ ท
38 ๐ ธ | 39 ๐ น | 3a ๐ บ | 3b ๐ ป
3c ๐ ผ | 3d ๐ ฝ | 3e ๐ พ | 3f ๐ ฟ
works best at low zoom
what was the recipe for the {20016}+ stuff again
uhh wait
i almost said 16+ ๐ญ im talking about unicode not ages ๐
i mean my save is corrupted so I'd take yours
consider yourself the central area
like
you collate all the recipes in a save
because we can't (yet) collaborate together
on one save
mark 13 15 in red
?
its next to an already found combo
so if we can rediscover it
we can probably increment downwards
๐ค
gl decrementing lol
think I found it
im incrementing up still
ok
sdatjkthweghwqeag
copypaste tool here
ok incrementing does NOT work
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@cedar lotus just fyi this is the new 3char chart
the black stuff means we have confirmed incrementing does not work to get that
(black is still unfound)
it does increment
can someone send a "lastest progress" save
small hitch
New chart
cuz uh I am slightly behind
HOW
@storm nacelle can you go as far as you can with 00 13 xx
ok
then send your save please
ill send once im done
I don't want to share my save anymore because it's been corrupted ๐
bruh
my mouse broke ๐ญ
i can't combine elements right now only type
stops at 3a
13 xx ends her
ok my mouse back
I assume u tried stuff other than just 39 right
turns into fffd spam
3a is also where the other one ended btw
idk what is with 3b but it seems to be a sort of roadblock
new chart
where else could we make progress?
๐ค
13 3a + 13 13?
@cedar lotus @maiden crest this should be the newest save
you dont need to tell me 4char discoveries btw, only 3char and 2char
3chars get added to the sheet and 2chars are major progress for obvious reasons
repopst
ty
resetting my save now
wait uh let me write down some quick FDs I got
"quick" ๐ญ
0c 0d is new
nvm wrong way
new things found via incrementing xx-09
some stuff that's not on the save
do we need these ?
idk
it's 00 a 00 b
3chars tho are important (kinda)
so
idk
theyre kinda hard to find when searching using searchbar tho
leave it for now
let me worry about the 00 a 00 b
OH NO
I LOST 00 13 00 14 RECIPE
alright?
0a 0b new
how
Are y'all proving u+20000
{20000}{20001}
is this useful
Ok
no i dont think so
not anymore
@cedar lotus we got 3b in an element
i couldnt go further tho
also new chart (btw there might be some stuff marked as found here that is actually missing bc i failed to document when the ai skipped things like in 06-35)
so now
i need help
incrementing down
uhh wait
also
@cedar lotus this will take forever for me to do on my own
so ill give you my savefile and ill need help with incrementing at least some of thsee
alr
here
@cedar lotus fyi 01-01 is made like this
repost
repost
oh oops
lol
@cedar lotus its been 21 minutes now
come back
Are yall trying to prove U+20000?
{20000}{20001}
Ah
{2000D}{2000E}{2000F}{20010}
Relic Proven (24 -> Earth)
[History proof](#1299426533492129905 message)
Doki Doki Panic, Super Mario Bros. 2, Super Mario Bros. 3, Super Mario World, Super Mario All-stars disproven
Super Mario Land 3, Wario Land, Wario Land 2, Wario Land 3, Wario Land 4 disproven
depth 16
im cooking
anyone could help for ๐ ๐ ๐ ญ?
(00 13 2d is missing)
collection of stuff that doesn't start with 00
(it's cut off but)
current grid (also cuts off D: )
Is that a table or zoomed in pixel art?
does this help?
ส (U+028E) proven (74)
that y + that t = the b with bar
so its definitely shorter
but i cant be bothered to do that
idk
oh sure uhh one sec
please help fill the hole
๐ฅบ
(00 07 21)
should I try push right here
pushing right seems more consistent than pushing down?
does depth explorer even work well with so many
I feel like considering the quantity of U+FFFD you keep getting that this probably isn't gonna work out well
whats happening here
Aliens
{20000} {20001} proof
๐ ๐
^ FYI (for easy copy paste)
hop on Hashtag The ++one
More stuff from Hashtag The ++one
now get Hashtag the ++seventwoseven
not for lack of trying
(IT's HARD)
??
uh
AI is fumbling its words
uhm
๐ค
๐ฅ๏ธ
\๐ฅ
๐ฅ๏ธ
u+20kmore
is that based on my save
the one with the grid
-# bc if not i prob won't use it
you what
๐ญ๏ธ๐ญ๏ธ๐ญ๏ธ
๐ญ๏ธ๐ญ๐ญ๏ธ
๐ญ๏ธ๐ญ๏ธ๐ญ๏ธ
yea
I can smell the Hashtag The ++sixseven
{20000}{20001} is the proof everyone else is doing
i set up a grid which should be continued here ^
-# I'm doing Hashtag the ++one
uhm
@cedar lotus
see: u+20kmore
^ look here
I think it's my save
so there should be like
a grid
of stuff
bye
@storm nacelle for when you come back later
they had to use consecutive unicode though iirc
like 0a 0b 0c 0d + 0e 0f 10 11 =
or something similar
@north bobcat @storm nacelle are you getting impersonated
ห (U+02DA) proven in 3
Snow + Snow = Ice
Ice + ห = Water```
bi
*no
idk who that is
its not my alt btw
@cedar lotus there's literally nothing when i open the save
oh wait
nvm
i found it
Wym why not done?
how has it not gone to 0 new elements yet
Bc now it can combine a 7 step Deep element with another 7 step element that only have very little overlap in their lineage
For example
yeah but usually when it goes from 16 new elements to 2 it doesn't go back up to 5 lmao
If you would want to be sure that there are no new elements you would have to do double the amount of generations starting from when there were no new elements
That's just random
what are you running depthexplorer on?
U+02E0
nada so far
im just going in order lol
bruh
@maiden crest do you have any 3chars that begin with 20000 and have 2003c or higher?
oh wait alr i found one
stops at 3f which is expected
ill see if i can extend the other ones now too
this does not seem to be possible
I've marked all of the easy ones up to 0d now @cedar lotus
I FINALLY GOT AN 0E
yes, for now i think
unless u2k+ gets disproven
which is possible but will take like weeks to disprove at a minimum
not to mention it is possible u2k+ gets proven
prob will tbh
the problem is even though we arent getting any progress, we're still able to get new charactes
so the amount of combinations increases
will get disproven or proven?
proven
finished proving/disproving 02xx
Okay now it's getting harder to increment for new 3chars
Progress as of 9/9 on 3chars
Added a new found counter
Between the 768 found 3chars so far, there are 294528 combinations
and that's just the 3chars, nto counting the other stuff
if u2k+ is getting disproven it will take a long time to try every single combination
Current savefile is here
can someone merge the savefiles pls
i have 1048 items
btw how many elements do we have that do not start with u20000
it got rid of the grid setup clover made tho ๐ญ
ill still be using the unmerged save
but we have 1073 items combined
minus 3 for the 3 equals sign eleemnts
and minus 2 for the fffds
1068 useful elements then
and 1070 elements
is 00 01 to 00 30 found
what's the highest 00 xx found
could you try for like 00 20 or sth?
00 15 still i think
its very hard to get new 2chars
and 1chars dont exist at all
(yet)
not yet
run depth explorer on that
maybe
see if we get any thign
we have 3chars that dont start with 00 right?
idk how to cataglo those
bc it would be a pain to make a ton of sheets
ฬฏ (U+032F) proven, โ ๏ธproven
ฬฏ + โ๏ธ = โ
๏ธ
โ
๏ธ + โ
๏ธ = Sun
Sun + โ
๏ธ = Sunny
Sun + Sunny = Summer
Summer + Sun = Heat
Heat + Heat = Fire```
random
what is that first combination lol
there is so much stuff everywhere
btw does anyone have 3chars that are not marked on the sheet
?
how many elements contain 40 or hgiher?
so we have every character up to 5f right?
if i understand correctly
"Hello Mr. Christ"
its like omg but IC
we have every char
up to 5f
ok
@cedar lotus could you make a new copypaste tool for 40 to 7f?
"Hello Mr. Christ" disproven
what black squares mean?
we've tried incrementing to get to that 3char but the incrementing stops there
it should be possible using other methods but not the obvious one(s)
?
i'm lazy to make table but i pretty sure its disproven
It's way too big to just be disproven
true
but the way it works means the ai will jsut keep incrementing
so unless we get an out of left field "Egg" or whatever
Unless it just randomly spits out something useful
Egg came from Earth with a backwards E
It wasn't really out of left field
well i dont think Earth combines with anything in normal IC to make Egg
maybe Chicken but we didnt combine it with Chicken
it is more just AI randomness
True
also i feel randomness is minimized with u2k+
bc the ai only sees the bytes
and it probably won
t change the bytes
to a Latin char
๐ ๐ ฉ๐ ฒ๐ ฅ
or for that matter any char outside of CJK ext b
what?
Who knows, maybe it will lol
I was gonna vote on this but i have no clue what this means
Captivate proven (17 -> Earth)
[Entrance proof](#1299426533492129905 message)
it's the unicode character sequence {U+20000}{U+20001}
which turns into this
Stabbing & Stab proven (16 & 15 -> Earth)
[Sword proof](#1299426533492129905 message)
Uhhh yea i dont know sorry ๐ญ
it looks like this ๐ ๐
or swastika
iirc some chinese elements were proven with swastija
the problem is these chars are not in the AI's training data
it doesnt know they're chinese
it only sees the bytes of the charcode and thinks theyre unassigned chars or smth
Ahhh
Maybe they can lead to a Chinese char in the XXXX range lol
i doubt it
decrementing is impossible
we need ai randomness to do that
rectangle rectangle
and we do not have any
Same
this is what its supposed to look like
Is it possible if the codepoints are far enough apart that the AI will see them as random nonsense, get confused, and make a character it knows better or Poseidon or something
your fonts dont suppor these chars
Is there some chars after this block that was used in train data?
no i dont think so
the problem to that is the barriers that stop us from incrementing
we already broke the 2003f barrier but now we're stuck at 2005f
the only chars we have access to are 20000 through 2005f
and those are still too close to each other
also igtg soon
bye
Bb 0x16c
It's Always Been Our Dream proven (20 -> Earth) [Reality proof](#1299426533492129905 message)
Teach Pokรฉmon To Understand & Understanding proven (18 & 17 -> Earth) [Wisdom proof](#1299426533492129905 message)
Pokemon to Fire (12)
-# [this is just Savio's egg -> fire proof](#1299426533492129905 message)
Pokemon + Pokemon = Egg
Egg + Egg = Bird
Bird + Bird = Flock
Bird + Egg = Omelette
Egg + Omelette = Chef
Chef + Flock = Shepherd
Omelette + Shepherd = Shepherdโs Pie
Omelette + Shepherdโs Pie = Breakfast Pie
Bird + Shepherd = Eagle
Bird + Eagle = Phoenix
Breakfast Pie + Chef = Pizza
Phoenix + Pizza = Fire // 12
To Catch Them Is My Real Test & Gotta Catch 'em All proven (13 -> Fire) [Pokemon proof](#1299426533492129905 message)
(pokรฉmon), Pokรฉmon, Pokรฉmon! proven (12 -> Fire) [Egg Proof](#1299426533492129905 message)
Every Challenge Along The Way proven (8 -> Earth) [Boulder proof](#1299426533492129905 message)
Oh, You're My Best Friend proven ( 20 -> Earth) [Best Friends proof](#1299426533492129905 message)
Searching Far And Wide, proven (27 -> Earth) [Treasure proof](#1299426533492129905 message)
Lol
Boulder
infinite craft
https://www.twitch.tv/gameromandev
Nice
now the world knows about this bounty
also i cant tell if you're just afk or if you're lagging
both
ok now i see it
are you afk again
interesting chart
i was updating the sheet, addind the submitted stuff
i swear they used to all be to fire or something
or am i misremembering
i swear it wasnt always earth though
if you look at the sheet it is also mostly earth
Lou.
sorry
I just got back from work
you have a job?
..yes sivvy thats how i supply myself
Because my account is for the character named Niko
im gonna end the stream for now and will start working on a proper db and site for this
yes
im gonna make a proper db and an easier way to submit stuff
basically like ib but for this thread
and we wont have to use the sheet anymore
ok
will have to learn some new stuff for this
btw reminding about https://727.vercel.app/
Proven vs Disproven data visualization
Hyphen-Dash proven (33 -> Earth)
[Dot proof](#1299426533492129905 message)
@formal sluice could you resize the proven-elements column?
done
Dash-dash proven (42 -> Earth)
[Help proof](#1299426533492129905 message)
Dot-dot proven (40 -> Earth)
[Help proof](#1299426533492129905 message)
Dot-dot-dot proven (40 -> Earth)
[Help proof](#1299426533492129905 message)
late but
40 ๐ 41 ๐ 42 ๐ 43 ๐ 44 ๐ 45 ๐
46 ๐ 47 ๐
48 ๐ 49 ๐ 4a ๐ 4b ๐ 4c ๐ 4d ๐ 4e ๐ 4f ๐
50 ๐ 51 ๐ 52 ๐ 53 ๐ 54 ๐ 55 ๐ 56 ๐ 57 ๐
58 ๐ 59 ๐ 5a ๐ 5b ๐ 5c ๐ 5d ๐ 5e ๐ 5f ๐
60 ๐ 61 ๐ ก 62 ๐ ข 63 ๐ ฃ 64 ๐ ค 65 ๐ ฅ 66 ๐ ฆ 67 ๐ ง
68 ๐ จ 69 ๐ ฉ 6a ๐ ช 6b ๐ ซ 6c ๐ ฌ 6d ๐ ญ 6e ๐ ฎ 6f ๐ ฏ
70 ๐ ฐ 71 ๐ ฑ 72 ๐ ฒ 73 ๐ ณ 74 ๐ ด 75 ๐ ต 76 ๐ ถ 77 ๐ ท
78 ๐ ธ 79 ๐ น 7a ๐ บ 7b ๐ ป 7c ๐ ผ 7d ๐ ฝ 7e ๐ พ 7f ๐ ฟ
print(*map('\t'.join,__import__("itertools").batched([f"{hex(i)[5:]} {chr(i)}" for i in range(0x20040,0x20080)],8)),sep='\n')```
Extended
00 ๐ 01 ๐ 02 ๐ 03 ๐ 04 ๐ 05 ๐
06 ๐ 07 ๐
08 ๐ 09 ๐ 0a ๐ 0b ๐ 0c ๐ 0d ๐ 0e ๐ 0f ๐
10 ๐ 11 ๐ 12 ๐ 13 ๐ 14 ๐ 15 ๐ 16 ๐ 17 ๐
18 ๐ 19 ๐ 1a ๐ 1b ๐ 1c ๐ 1d ๐ 1e ๐ 1f ๐
20 ๐ 21 ๐ ก 22 ๐ ข 23 ๐ ฃ 24 ๐ ค 25 ๐ ฅ 26 ๐ ฆ 27 ๐ ง
28 ๐ จ 29 ๐ ฉ 2a ๐ ช 2b ๐ ซ 2c ๐ ฌ 2d ๐ ญ 2e ๐ ฎ 2f ๐ ฏ
30 ๐ ฐ 31 ๐ ฑ 32 ๐ ฒ 33 ๐ ณ 34 ๐ ด 35 ๐ ต 36 ๐ ถ 37 ๐ ท
38 ๐ ธ 39 ๐ น 3a ๐ บ 3b ๐ ป 3c ๐ ผ 3d ๐ ฝ 3e ๐ พ 3f ๐ ฟ
40 ๐ 41 ๐ 42 ๐ 43 ๐ 44 ๐ 45 ๐
46 ๐ 47 ๐
48 ๐ 49 ๐ 4a ๐ 4b ๐ 4c ๐ 4d ๐ 4e ๐ 4f ๐
50 ๐ 51 ๐ 52 ๐ 53 ๐ 54 ๐ 55 ๐ 56 ๐ 57 ๐
58 ๐ 59 ๐ 5a ๐ 5b ๐ 5c ๐ 5d ๐ 5e ๐ 5f ๐
60 ๐ 61 ๐ ก 62 ๐ ข 63 ๐ ฃ 64 ๐ ค 65 ๐ ฅ 66 ๐ ฆ 67 ๐ ง
68 ๐ จ 69 ๐ ฉ 6a ๐ ช 6b ๐ ซ 6c ๐ ฌ 6d ๐ ญ 6e ๐ ฎ 6f ๐ ฏ
70 ๐ ฐ 71 ๐ ฑ 72 ๐ ฒ 73 ๐ ณ 74 ๐ ด 75 ๐ ต 76 ๐ ถ 77 ๐ ท
78 ๐ ธ 79 ๐ น 7a ๐ บ 7b ๐ ป 7c ๐ ผ 7d ๐ ฝ 7e ๐ พ 7f ๐ ฟ
B, What Is The Value Of `? proven via 10 lol (38 steps to Earth)
interestingly, 900 + B, What Is The Value Of `? = 1000`
welp I'm going to try prove that
at some point llol
^ shoutout to this "01:" proof it's a banger but it got buried
damn
any progress made on u2k+?
'o disproven
All lengths of ๆฑ (U+6C41) disproven)
+ (space) proven
Taraxacum and Taraxacum officinale disproven
0d-3b first new 3char of today
771 -> 772 found 3chars
09-3b
Updated 3char sheet
Broke another barrier
11-xx can now be extended again!
Stops at 2d, exactly as predicted
There are now more than 800 known 3chars
0d-2d found
not
what userscript are you guys using to show the (20000)
the tooltips?
its asd's tooltips script
but modified so that every single char is counted as an "exotic char"
and therefore shows up with tooltips
here
btw whats the highest depth thats been crawled for u2k+?
16
because qadi got banned from this server for no reason
oh is that why all the messages got deleted?
how many elements in depth 16?
my depthexplorer is almost done with depth 13
Only from this server?
Or was the discord account banned?
fffd spam galore
server
server
where savio stopped
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15bnqDlTNRlO5UXpr_KRwU08U7AtvhV2hlOX8CwZtS_4/edit?usp=sharing
Element count growth by depth
Like most IC element counts, it grows exponentially
Logarithmic scale allows you to see what's going on more accurately
btw in my savefile i got a few 2 character u+20k elements not starting with ๐
which ones
ik those exist
heres mine mixed with yours
but i need to confirm they are the same ones asd has
some arent fd so yea
well how many are fd ?
i dont want to overwrite any of my saves
what
ok wait
send ib lineage ig
i was just merging random stuff from clovers file and found it
why didnt you tell us
new 2chars is major progress
idk i gotit yesterday and sent my savefile and went to sleep
oh
@cedar lotus major progress
btw are you still running depthexplorer
yes
its like halfway through depth 15 now
itll still take some time to catch up to savio
ok so uhm
how do i plan to catalog these new 2chars
ig i just duplicate the 3char sheet
and unmark everything
3b is still a whitehole for some reason
also i have these elements which seem interesting
btw here's a grid of all of your discoveries 2chars
just so we can keep track of what's found and what isnt
i just found thisd too
here is how it appears on the sheet
how
can you drag them out
i don't know the 20k chars by heart
and I don't think @storm nacelle does either
i got it
having the grid is useful
i just got like 15 more
atp just "finish up" then send your save maybe
ok
this one seems good
yes i am ok
0x16c are you okay
@haughty lotus could you lay them out in a grid like this?
that will make it easier to add them to the sheet
thx
do u need them in order tho
yes please
the columns dont really make sense but this is good enough
here's what it looks like with the columns aligned
full uncropped map
there's still a very large void separating this new island from the stuff we started with at the top left
some more 2
do you have 34-3c or 34-3d?
since you have 34-3e
also do you have 34-3f
?
thse two made i t
?
oh
alr
could you send your save again
i fell behind on the current progress
idk how we will get out of these unicode characters to base elements
same
this seems kinda impossible
but its also too large to disprove
who found this
(too large as in we have too many elements)
idk
first step would be to get a 1 character element
somehow
idk how'
i got emojis from barrier breaking before
is there any chance we can do that here?
very low
any chance we can at least break through 5f?
yeah for sure
there's still a lot of red characters here
asd can you tmake some of these green?
my depth explorer is 25% through depth 16 now
btw
combine {2003c}{2003b} with {2003c}{2003a}
maybe you can get {2003c}{2003c}
which is unfound
didntwork
how
what
{20038}{2003a}
oh
i dont have 38-3b either
60 and 61 confirmed
that was not marked on the sheet
what
this cell i am selecting here
it was marked as white
bc you never showed me that element was found
i marked it as green now
here
i found 62
wait i'm incrementing
we've officially broken into radical #2
only 47157 characters to go until the end of the block!!! ๐ฅณ
btw does anyone actually have a decent idea on how to get to a base element (or element containing a latin char or number)???
nvm
114
how
start
amazing, i tried other offsets but not this
128 chars now i assume
also skipped 75 but I have that
how's it going, have yall gotten to 80 yet?
no
there's still like 350000 recipes left ๐ญ
we can all agree this will be the first 10 steps of the proof right?
how tf?
can you run depthExplorerLineages() rq and check the number of elements you currently have
alr here
only 68% done
any progress?
I can probably bruteforce some combinations
what elements should I use tho
all of the known 2char elements