#๐Ÿ‘ฉ๐Ÿ‘ง ๐Ÿ‘ฉ๐Ÿ‘ฆ Base Elements From Other Elements

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storm nacelle
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when they are formed via combinations

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bc you still need to delete them manually when they show up via combinaitoms

cedar lotus
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๐ €€๐ € is the original element

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right?

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answeing my own question

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yesy

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yes it is

maiden crest
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amazing

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I can totally see what's going on

storm nacelle
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also to the makers of noto sans, just expand your font to support cjk ext b

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its not that hard you can just smush your existing characters together in most cases

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is it done?

cedar lotus
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still cooking

storm nacelle
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my save only has 54 elements

cedar lotus
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would be nice if i had a save file merger but

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that's broken

storm nacelle
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oh

maiden crest
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ok added a very useful tooltip

cedar lotus
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so i gotta code it manually

storm nacelle
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thats why its taking a while

cedar lotus
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yeah i gotta code a merger

storm nacelle
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or do you have a better one

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bc this one aint giving me the codepoints

maiden crest
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just changed the exotic chars range to 0000-10ffff

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so it'd show all chars

storm nacelle
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ok it works

cedar lotus
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done I think

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it has all the recipes in it too

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(that's the main hard part of merging saves)

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(I should totally code a good savefile merger)

maiden crest
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anything that doesn't contain 20000?

cedar lotus
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shouldn't be too hard

cedar lotus
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is that openable with analyzer

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if you give me a .ic or .json i can work with that

maiden crest
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upload to ic then export

cedar lotus
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hang on im reworking my code to work with two IC JSON files

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instead of one IC JSON file and whatever my weird craftRand format is

rigid heart
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is the game not working for anyone else

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nvm fixed

cedar lotus
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coding's done

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let me extract the JSON then I'll have the merge of all 3 saves

cedar lotus
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-# @maiden crest (forgot to ping)

maiden crest
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I can't do anything about it

cedar lotus
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can you download it as a .ic file

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.ic and .json I can work with

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(bc save file analyzer on ib lets me turn .ic into .json)

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wait im dumb

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i can just put the gz into save file analyzer

storm nacelle
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wait what is even happening

cedar lotus
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^ call this version 1 I guess

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actually no version 3

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because?

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3 save files?

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anyways if someone gets anything major ping me and I can merge some ig, idk

cedar lotus
storm nacelle
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only 63 items?

cedar lotus
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oh this thing?

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I'll just show 20000 ig

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20000 to 2ffff? supplementary ideographic plane

storm nacelle
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can we have 1 person just keep incrementing higher from the start

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and then the other 2 people do random combining

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?

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๐Ÿค”

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there is this element with two 20000s

cedar lotus
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wait did I syntaxerror my own save

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oops

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oh it's because it uses True and not true

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bc i use python

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lemme fix that

maiden crest
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stops at 20015

storm nacelle
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hmm

maiden crest
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either way if it didn't it'd stop at 2003f

storm nacelle
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is there a way to get an element with 20016

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?

cedar lotus
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fixed I hope

maiden crest
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why no fds

storm nacelle
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does anyone have more 3 of a kinds

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?

maiden crest
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try getting sth without 20000

storm nacelle
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bc the ai will see

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"ok this 20000 part is shared between the two elements, so my result should also have this 20000 part"

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surely

cedar lotus
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oh so we haven't gotten ๐ €– yet

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{20016}

storm nacelle
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ok so the things we want to do are

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in easiest to hardest order:

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  1. get 20016 in an element
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  1. get an elemetn with no 20000
cedar lotus
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first discovery jumpscare

storm nacelle
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  1. get element from another block somethow
storm nacelle
cedar lotus
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i have a few i think uhh

storm nacelle
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for easy copypasting

cedar lotus
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im so confused

maiden crest
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makes sense, just follows the pattern

storm nacelle
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who has fd on this?

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thats 4 known 3 of a kinds now

cedar lotus
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{20000} is ๐ €€
{20001} is ๐ €
{20002} is ๐ €‚
{20003} is ๐ €ƒ
{20004} is ๐ €„
{20005} is ๐ €…
{20006} is ๐ €†
{20007} is ๐ €‡
{20008} is ๐ €ˆ
{20009} is ๐ €‰
{2000a} is ๐ €Š
{2000b} is ๐ €‹
{2000c} is ๐ €Œ
{2000d} is ๐ €
{2000e} is ๐ €Ž
{2000f} is ๐ €
{20010} is ๐ €
{20011} is ๐ €‘
{20012} is ๐ €’
{20013} is ๐ €“
{20014} is ๐ €”
{20015} is ๐ €•
( {20016} is ๐ €–)

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๐ €€๐ €๐ €‚๐ €ƒ
๐ €„๐ €…๐ €†๐ €‡
๐ €ˆ๐ €‰๐ €Š๐ €‹
๐ €Œ๐ €๐ €Ž๐ €
๐ €๐ €‘๐ €’๐ €“
๐ €”๐ €•and {20016}๐ €–
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no im done

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its fine

storm nacelle
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oh wait

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is that 20016 or is it the other one

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im assuming that is 20016

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and the other one is 20017

cedar lotus
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idk

storm nacelle
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ok so the other one is 20017

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๐ €€๐ €๐ €‚๐ €ƒ๐ €„๐ €…๐ €†๐ €‡๐ €ˆ๐ €‰๐ €Š๐ €‹๐ €Œ๐ €๐ €Ž๐ €
๐ €๐ €‘๐ €’๐ €“๐ €”๐ €•๐ €–๐ €—
cedar lotus
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anyone has ๐ €€๐ €€ or something

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{20000}{20000}

storm nacelle
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btw which chars do we have 2 in a row of

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out of the ones we have access to rn

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not a lot

storm nacelle
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we also have this element with two 0cs but there is an 0d in the middle

cedar lotus
storm nacelle
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also you can prob get triple 15 from triple 13 + triple 14

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idk if we can finally get 16 that way tho, probbaly not

merry sable
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Oh yall doing chinese symbols

storm nacelle
cedar lotus
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they aren't chinese I think

storm nacelle
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so the ai doesnt know what they are

cedar lotus
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I'm not sure what they are tbh

storm nacelle
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it just sees the bytes

cedar lotus
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lol

storm nacelle
cedar lotus
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are they even in training data

storm nacelle
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20000 is an alternate form of "ah"

cedar lotus
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in non-nerd speak

storm nacelle
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20001 is an archaic version of the number 7

cedar lotus
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do people actually use these to count

storm nacelle
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i found triple 06, i also have double 06

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this is double 06

cedar lotus
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hang on one sec

storm nacelle
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and triple 06 is just 06 + double 06

cedar lotus
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i can't check bc i have to reload

storm nacelle
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๐Ÿ˜ญ

cedar lotus
cedar lotus
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can we get double alphabet

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i still use python lol

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I ALMOST SENT THAT IN A BIG SERVER NO CHATTING CHANNEL ๐Ÿ˜ญ anyways

storm nacelle
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it does this

cedar lotus
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uh

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I DONT KNOW THIS IS WHAT I HAVE

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๐Ÿ˜ญ

storm nacelle
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using helper

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surely

cedar lotus
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...

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i did

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๐Ÿ˜ญ

storm nacelle
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wha t

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uhh

cedar lotus
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excuse me

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oh is the savefile corrupted ๐Ÿ˜ญ

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it's probably an incorrect recipe isn't it

storm nacelle
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ok wait

cedar lotus
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NEW RULE DON'T TRUST CLOVER TAMPERING WITH SAVEFILES

storm nacelle
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so do we even have triple 13

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or not?

cedar lotus
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i have no clue

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is my computer somehow SO COOKED

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that it mixed up two network requests????

storm nacelle
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so we have triple 13, it's just that....we lost the recipe ๐Ÿ˜ญ

cedar lotus
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anyways i manually checked this recipe, should be correct

storm nacelle
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am i missing something or...?

cedar lotus
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another double

storm nacelle
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?

cedar lotus
cedar lotus
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can you tell that I'm tired rn bc im mixing both types

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๐Ÿ˜ญ

storm nacelle
storm nacelle
cedar lotus
cedar lotus
storm nacelle
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compare that to the lineage you posted

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its another mixed up recipe

cedar lotus
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what

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no it's not mixed up right

storm nacelle
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compare

cedar lotus
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the one i manually checked

storm nacelle
cedar lotus
storm nacelle
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now compare result

cedar lotus
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and i got 00 13 00 15

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same numbers right?

storm nacelle
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oh

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wait

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lmao

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uhhh

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i cant read numbers

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๐Ÿ˜ญ

cedar lotus
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sob

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anyways

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i still can't figure out 00 13 15

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D:

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help us get ๐ €€๐ €“๐ €• please ๐Ÿ™

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(00 13 15)

storm nacelle
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i have 13 05

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idk how close

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or how far

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sdfjkdgshajkgaskghsdjkghsda @cedar lotus

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triple 07

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lemme check recipe

cedar lotus
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surely we get triple 13 from this

storm nacelle
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tirple 07, 08, 0a, 0b, 0c, 0d @cedar lotus

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idk how to get triple 09

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New list of known triples

cedar lotus
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combine triplets systematically with singles

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and doubles if you have those too

storm nacelle
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triple 02

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lemme make the others first

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if i can make others

cedar lotus
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do you have a last char 20000 element

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could u also do like 9 + 9 = 10

storm nacelle
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triple 02, 03, 04

cedar lotus
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assuming {20000} is "zero"

storm nacelle
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we dont have anything ending in 20000

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nor do we have anything without 20000 at all

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ok so

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nothing im trying is making triple 09

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uhh

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no luck with 0e either

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although i did get this

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New 3char, that's pretty rare

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@cedar lotus dkflafjklfjdhagjkhsakgsdkads

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idk how to get rid of the 03 tho

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stops incrementing at 20

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but 16, 17, 18, 19, 20 confirmed

cedar lotus
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banger

maiden crest
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honestly you'd get stuck at 2003f if it keeps incrementing
you could possibly barrier break to get to 20040 but idk how feasible it'll be

cedar lotus
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what's 20040

cedar lotus
storm nacelle
storm nacelle
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ill do that later

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here's all the 3chars we have right now

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left = middle char, top = last char

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(first char is always 20000)

cedar lotus
storm nacelle
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im going to try incrementing somestuff

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like extending the d row

cedar lotus
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why would it stop then

storm nacelle
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on the chart

storm nacelle
cedar lotus
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what's special about 20040?

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asd's typing i think

storm nacelle
maiden crest
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look at the last two tokens of 2003f

cedar lotus
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what's special about 2003f

maiden crest
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and 20040

cedar lotus
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oh I think ik then

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it's a new byte

cedar lotus
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{20000} is ๐ €€
{20001} is ๐ €
{20002} is ๐ €‚
{20003} is ๐ €ƒ
{20004} is ๐ €„
{20005} is ๐ €…
{20006} is ๐ €†
{20007} is ๐ €‡
{20008} is ๐ €ˆ
{20009} is ๐ €‰
{2000a} is ๐ €Š
{2000b} is ๐ €‹
{2000c} is ๐ €Œ
{2000d} is ๐ €
{2000e} is ๐ €Ž
{2000f} is ๐ €
{20010} is ๐ €
{20011} is ๐ €‘
{20012} is ๐ €’
{20013} is ๐ €“
{20014} is ๐ €”
{20015} is ๐ €•
( {20016} is ๐ €–)

maiden crest
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yeah and the ai's like "what do I do" since \xc0 invalid utf

cedar lotus
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oh right the new chars uhh

storm nacelle
storm nacelle
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@cedar lotus 00-0d-xx can also break into 16

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just fyi

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ill see where it ends

maiden crest
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should I run depthexplorer or no

cedar lotus
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you can if you want

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it seems like we are slowly gaining some semblance of tech tho

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so I'd personally hold out for a few hours

storm nacelle
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@cedar lotus 20021 confirmed

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youll need to add new chars again

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๐Ÿคฃ

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oh wait

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you arleady added up to 3f

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oh

cedar lotus
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well not yet but

storm nacelle
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infinite craft ai

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where did 2d go

maiden crest
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yeah it likes skipping sometimes

storm nacelle
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ok it finally stopped incrementing

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at 3a, not 3f

cedar lotus
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{20000} is ๐ €€
{20001} is ๐ €
{20002} is ๐ €‚
{20003} is ๐ €ƒ
{20004} is ๐ €„
{20005} is ๐ €…
{20006} is ๐ €†
{20007} is ๐ €‡
{20008} is ๐ €ˆ
{20009} is ๐ €‰
{2000a} is ๐ €Š
{2000b} is ๐ €‹
{2000c} is ๐ €Œ
{2000d} is ๐ €
{2000e} is ๐ €Ž
{2000f} is ๐ €
{20010} is ๐ €
{20011} is ๐ €‘
{20012} is ๐ €’
{20013} is ๐ €“
{20014} is ๐ €”
{20015} is ๐ €•
{20016} is ๐ €–
{20017} is ๐ €—
{20018} is ๐ €˜
{20019} is ๐ €™
{2001a} is ๐ €š
{2001b} is ๐ €›
{2001c} is ๐ €œ
{2001d} is ๐ €
{2001e} is ๐ €ž
{2001f} is ๐ €Ÿ
{20020} is ๐ € 
{20021} is ๐ €ก
{20022} is ๐ €ข
{20023} is ๐ €ฃ
{20024} is ๐ €ค
{20025} is ๐ €ฅ
{20026} is ๐ €ฆ
{20027} is ๐ €ง
{20028} is ๐ €จ
{20029} is ๐ €ฉ
{2002a} is ๐ €ช
{2002b} is ๐ €ซ
{2002c} is ๐ €ฌ
{2002d} is ๐ €ญ
{2002e} is ๐ €ฎ
{2002f} is ๐ €ฏ
{20030} is ๐ €ฐ
{20031} is ๐ €ฑ
{20032} is ๐ €ฒ
{20033} is ๐ €ณ
{20034} is ๐ €ด
{20035} is ๐ €ต
{20036} is ๐ €ถ
{20037} is ๐ €ท
{20038} is ๐ €ธ
{20039} is ๐ €น
{2003a} is ๐ €บ
{2003b} is ๐ €ป
{2003c} is ๐ €ผ
{2003d} is ๐ €ฝ
{2003e} is ๐ €พ
{2003f} is ๐ €ฟ

Prepend 200
00 ๐ €€ | 01 ๐ € | 02 ๐ €‚ | 03 ๐ €ƒ
04 ๐ €„ | 05 ๐ €… | 06 ๐ €† | 07 ๐ €‡
08 ๐ €ˆ | 09 ๐ €‰ | 0a ๐ €Š | 0b ๐ €‹
0c ๐ €Œ | 0d ๐ € | 0e ๐ €Ž | 0f ๐ €
10 ๐ € | 11 ๐ €‘ | 12 ๐ €’ | 13 ๐ €“
14 ๐ €” | 15 ๐ €• | 16 ๐ €– | 17 ๐ €—
18 ๐ €˜ | 19 ๐ €™ | 1a ๐ €š | 1b ๐ €›
1c ๐ €œ | 1d ๐ € | 1e ๐ €ž | 1f ๐ €Ÿ
20 ๐ €  | 21 ๐ €ก | 22 ๐ €ข | 23 ๐ €ฃ
24 ๐ €ค | 25 ๐ €ฅ | 26 ๐ €ฆ | 27 ๐ €ง
28 ๐ €จ | 29 ๐ €ฉ | 2a ๐ €ช | 2b ๐ €ซ
2c ๐ €ฌ | 2d ๐ €ญ | 2e ๐ €ฎ | 2f ๐ €ฏ
30 ๐ €ฐ | 31 ๐ €ฑ | 32 ๐ €ฒ | 33 ๐ €ณ
34 ๐ €ด | 35 ๐ €ต | 36 ๐ €ถ | 37 ๐ €ท
38 ๐ €ธ | 39 ๐ €น | 3a ๐ €บ | 3b ๐ €ป
3c ๐ €ผ | 3d ๐ €ฝ | 3e ๐ €พ | 3f ๐ €ฟ
storm nacelle
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so 3b/3c/3d/3e/3f still unconfirmed

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WOAH

maiden crest
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what

cedar lotus
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hang on let me reformat

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ok done

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actually let me also do it vertically

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ran out of space

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00 ๐ €€ | 04 ๐ €„ | 08 ๐ €ˆ | 0c ๐ €Œ | 10 ๐ € | 14 ๐ €” | 18 ๐ €˜ | 1c ๐ €œ | 20 ๐ €  | 24 ๐ €ค | 28 ๐ €จ | 2c ๐ €ฌ | 30 ๐ €ฐ | 34 ๐ €ด | 38 ๐ €ธ | 3c ๐ €ผ
01 ๐ € | 05 ๐ €… | 09 ๐ €‰ | 0d ๐ € | 11 ๐ €‘ | 15 ๐ €• | 19 ๐ €™ | 1d ๐ € | 21 ๐ €ก | 25 ๐ €ฅ | 29 ๐ €ฉ | 2d ๐ €ญ | 31 ๐ €ฑ | 35 ๐ €ต | 39 ๐ €น | 3d ๐ €ฝ
02 ๐ €‚ | 06 ๐ €† | 0a ๐ €Š | 0e ๐ €Ž | 12 ๐ €’ | 16 ๐ €– | 1a ๐ €š | 1e ๐ €ž | 22 ๐ €ข | 26 ๐ €ฆ | 2a ๐ €ช | 2e ๐ €ฎ | 32 ๐ €ฒ | 36 ๐ €ถ | 3a ๐ €บ | 3e ๐ €พ
03 ๐ €ƒ | 07 ๐ €‡ | 0b ๐ €‹ | 0f ๐ € | 13 ๐ €“ | 17 ๐ €— | 1b ๐ €› | 1f ๐ €Ÿ | 23 ๐ €ฃ | 27 ๐ €ง | 2b ๐ €ซ | 2f ๐ €ฏ | 33 ๐ €ณ | 37 ๐ €ท | 3b ๐ €ป | 3f ๐ €ฟ
00 ๐ €€ | 01 ๐ € | 02 ๐ €‚ | 03 ๐ €ƒ
04 ๐ €„ | 05 ๐ €… | 06 ๐ €† | 07 ๐ €‡
08 ๐ €ˆ | 09 ๐ €‰ | 0a ๐ €Š | 0b ๐ €‹
0c ๐ €Œ | 0d ๐ € | 0e ๐ €Ž | 0f ๐ €
10 ๐ € | 11 ๐ €‘ | 12 ๐ €’ | 13 ๐ €“
14 ๐ €” | 15 ๐ €• | 16 ๐ €– | 17 ๐ €—
18 ๐ €˜ | 19 ๐ €™ | 1a ๐ €š | 1b ๐ €›
1c ๐ €œ | 1d ๐ € | 1e ๐ €ž | 1f ๐ €Ÿ
20 ๐ €  | 21 ๐ €ก | 22 ๐ €ข | 23 ๐ €ฃ
24 ๐ €ค | 25 ๐ €ฅ | 26 ๐ €ฆ | 27 ๐ €ง
28 ๐ €จ | 29 ๐ €ฉ | 2a ๐ €ช | 2b ๐ €ซ
2c ๐ €ฌ | 2d ๐ €ญ | 2e ๐ €ฎ | 2f ๐ €ฏ
30 ๐ €ฐ | 31 ๐ €ฑ | 32 ๐ €ฒ | 33 ๐ €ณ
34 ๐ €ด | 35 ๐ €ต | 36 ๐ €ถ | 37 ๐ €ท
38 ๐ €ธ | 39 ๐ €น | 3a ๐ €บ | 3b ๐ €ป
3c ๐ €ผ | 3d ๐ €ฝ | 3e ๐ €พ | 3f ๐ €ฟ
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works best at low zoom

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what was the recipe for the {20016}+ stuff again

storm nacelle
cedar lotus
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i almost said 16+ ๐Ÿ˜ญ im talking about unicode not ages ๐Ÿ™

storm nacelle
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idk

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i should just upload save rihgt

cedar lotus
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i mean my save is corrupted so I'd take yours

storm nacelle
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new save with 20016+

cedar lotus
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consider yourself the central area

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like

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you collate all the recipes in a save

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because we can't (yet) collaborate together

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on one save

storm nacelle
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@cedar lotus new chart of found 3chars

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idk how to expand the others tho

cedar lotus
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mark 13 15 in red

storm nacelle
cedar lotus
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because it's possibly found but corrupted

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this one

storm nacelle
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so if we can rediscover it

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we can probably increment downwards

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๐Ÿค”

maiden crest
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gl decrementing lol

storm nacelle
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see the left column

cedar lotus
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think I found it

storm nacelle
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im incrementing up still

storm nacelle
cedar lotus
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please cross-check yourself

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because my stuff is clearly volatile

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more stuff whoo

storm nacelle
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sdatjkthweghwqeag

cedar lotus
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they don't combine but thought this was interesting

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recipe

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struck a goldmine

storm nacelle
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@cedar lotus just fyi this is the new 3char chart

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the black stuff means we have confirmed incrementing does not work to get that

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(black is still unfound)

cedar lotus
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some recipes

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so 00 13 14 found

storm nacelle
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oh wow

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13 14 found

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wait

storm nacelle
cedar lotus
#

i think you got ahead of me there

storm nacelle
#

then it becomes fffd spam

cedar lotus
maiden crest
#

can someone send a "lastest progress" save

cedar lotus
#

small hitch

storm nacelle
#

New chart

maiden crest
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cuz uh I am slightly behind

storm nacelle
cedar lotus
#

@storm nacelle can you go as far as you can with 00 13 xx

storm nacelle
#

ok

cedar lotus
#

then send your save please

storm nacelle
cedar lotus
#

I don't want to share my save anymore because it's been corrupted ๐Ÿ˜ž

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bruh

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my mouse broke ๐Ÿ˜ญ

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i can't combine elements right now only type

storm nacelle
#

stops at 3a

storm nacelle
cedar lotus
#

ok my mouse back

maiden crest
#

I assume u tried stuff other than just 39 right

storm nacelle
#

turns into fffd spam

storm nacelle
#

idk what is with 3b but it seems to be a sort of roadblock

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new chart

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where else could we make progress?

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๐Ÿค”

cedar lotus
#

13 3a + 13 13?

storm nacelle
#

you dont need to tell me 4char discoveries btw, only 3char and 2char

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3chars get added to the sheet and 2chars are major progress for obvious reasons

cedar lotus
#

resetting my save now

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wait uh let me write down some quick FDs I got

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"quick" ๐Ÿ˜ญ

storm nacelle
#

0c 0d is new

cedar lotus
#

nvm wrong way

storm nacelle
#

new things found via incrementing xx-09

cedar lotus
#

some stuff that's not on the save

storm nacelle
cedar lotus
#

idk

storm nacelle
#

i dont think we need all 4chars in the main save

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we can merge htem later ig

cedar lotus
#

it's 00 a 00 b

storm nacelle
#

3chars tho are important (kinda)

cedar lotus
#

so

storm nacelle
#

hmm alr idk

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should i make a new sheet for those?

cedar lotus
#

idk

storm nacelle
#

theyre kinda hard to find when searching using searchbar tho

cedar lotus
#

leave it for now

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let me worry about the 00 a 00 b

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OH NO

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I LOST 00 13 00 14 RECIPE

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alright?

storm nacelle
#

0a 0b new

storm nacelle
covert totem
#

Are y'all proving u+20000

storm nacelle
cedar lotus
#

is this useful

covert totem
#

Ok

storm nacelle
#

not anymore

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@cedar lotus we got 3b in an element

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i couldnt go further tho

cedar lotus
#

combine with others

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can u get 3b with something else๐Ÿค”

storm nacelle
# cedar lotus combine with others

also new chart (btw there might be some stuff marked as found here that is actually missing bc i failed to document when the ai skipped things like in 06-35)

#

so now

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i need help

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incrementing down

cedar lotus
#

wait how'd you get

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(00) 01 01

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00 01 + 00 01???

storm nacelle
#

also

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@cedar lotus this will take forever for me to do on my own

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so ill give you my savefile and ill need help with incrementing at least some of thsee

cedar lotus
#

alr

storm nacelle
cedar lotus
#

but like

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send this again in 20 mins imma take a quivk break

storm nacelle
#

@cedar lotus fyi 01-01 is made like this

storm nacelle
rigid heart
#

Are yall trying to prove U+20000?

covert totem
rigid heart
#

Ah

rigid heart
#

{2000D}{2000E}{2000F}{20010}

hearty orbit
#

Relic Proven (24 -> Earth)
[History proof](#1299426533492129905 message)

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Doki Doki Panic, Super Mario Bros. 2, Super Mario Bros. 3, Super Mario World, Super Mario All-stars disproven

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Super Mario Land 3, Wario Land, Wario Land 2, Wario Land 3, Wario Land 4 disproven

cedar lotus
#

progress

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stuff I've made (I think)

rigid heart
cedar lotus
#

im cooking

rigid heart
#

im not gonna continue with it

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just ran depth 16

cedar lotus
#

anyone could help for ๐ €€๐ €“๐ €ญ?

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(00 13 2d is missing)

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collection of stuff that doesn't start with 00

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(it's cut off but)

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current grid (also cuts off D: )

feral raven
cedar lotus
#

does this help?

rigid heart
#

สŽ (U+028E) proven (74)

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that y + that t = the b with bar

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so its definitely shorter

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but i cant be bothered to do that

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idk

cedar lotus
#

oh sure uhh one sec

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please help fill the hole

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๐Ÿฅบ

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(00 07 21)

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should I try push right here

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pushing right seems more consistent than pushing down?

cedar lotus
#

does depth explorer even work well with so many

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I feel like considering the quantity of U+FFFD you keep getting that this probably isn't gonna work out well

haughty lotus
#

whats happening here

ebon glacier
cedar lotus
#

bad proof idea

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<#unk#>.1

cedar lotus
#

๐ €€๐ €

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^ FYI (for easy copy paste)

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hop on Hashtag The ++one

cedar lotus
#

More stuff from Hashtag The ++one

ebon glacier
cedar lotus
#

what now uhh

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what now *2

cedar lotus
#

(IT's HARD)

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AI is fumbling its words

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๐Ÿค”

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๐Ÿ”ฅ๏ธ

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\๐Ÿ”ฅ

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๐Ÿ”ฅ๏ธŽ

haughty lotus
cedar lotus
#

is that based on my save

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the one with the grid

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-# bc if not i prob won't use it

#

you what

#

๐Ÿ˜ญ๏ธ๐Ÿ˜ญ๏ธ๐Ÿ˜ญ๏ธ
๐Ÿ˜ญ๏ธ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ๏ธ
๐Ÿ˜ญ๏ธ๐Ÿ˜ญ๏ธ๐Ÿ˜ญ๏ธ

cedar lotus
#

help

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Hashtag The ++seventeenseventeenseven

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๐Ÿ˜ญ

#

what now

haughty lotus
covert totem
#

I can smell the Hashtag The ++sixseven

cedar lotus
#

surely...

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ok in all seriousness idk if the recipe is replicatable

lofty grail
#

what are ya providing in Chinese?

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I'm de china provers

cedar lotus
#

{20000}{20001} is the proof everyone else is doing

cedar lotus
#

-# I'm doing Hashtag the ++one

storm nacelle
#

uhm

cedar lotus
#

hi

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there's been some progress

storm nacelle
#

@cedar lotus

cedar lotus
#

see: u+20kmore

storm nacelle
#

which stuff was found

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lol

cedar lotus
#

I think it's my save

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so there should be like

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a grid

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of stuff

storm nacelle
#

also igtg bye

cedar lotus
#

bye

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@storm nacelle for when you come back later

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they had to use consecutive unicode though iirc

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like 0a 0b 0c 0d + 0e 0f 10 11 =

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or something similar

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@north bobcat @storm nacelle are you getting impersonated

rigid heart
#

หš (U+02DA) proven in 3

Snow + Snow = Ice
Ice + หš = Water```
storm nacelle
#

*no

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idk who that is

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its not my alt btw

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@cedar lotus there's literally nothing when i open the save

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oh wait

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nvm

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i found it

rigid heart
#

how is it not done yet

wanton slate
#

Wym why not done?

rigid heart
#

how has it not gone to 0 new elements yet

wanton slate
#

Bc now it can combine a 7 step Deep element with another 7 step element that only have very little overlap in their lineage

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For example

rigid heart
#

yeah but usually when it goes from 16 new elements to 2 it doesn't go back up to 5 lmao

wanton slate
#

If you would want to be sure that there are no new elements you would have to do double the amount of generations starting from when there were no new elements

storm nacelle
rigid heart
storm nacelle
#

nada so far

rigid heart
#

im just going in order lol

rigid heart
storm nacelle
#

@maiden crest do you have any 3chars that begin with 20000 and have 2003c or higher?

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oh wait alr i found one

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stops at 3f which is expected

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ill see if i can extend the other ones now too

storm nacelle
#

I've marked all of the easy ones up to 0d now @cedar lotus

#

I FINALLY GOT AN 0E

rigid heart
#

is this the biggest disproven list from one element?

storm nacelle
#

unless u2k+ gets disproven

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which is possible but will take like weeks to disprove at a minimum

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not to mention it is possible u2k+ gets proven

rigid heart
#

prob will tbh

storm nacelle
#

the problem is even though we arent getting any progress, we're still able to get new charactes

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so the amount of combinations increases

storm nacelle
rigid heart
#

proven

storm nacelle
rigid heart
#

finished proving/disproving 02xx

storm nacelle
#

Okay now it's getting harder to increment for new 3chars

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Progress as of 9/9 on 3chars

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Added a new found counter

storm nacelle
#

and that's just the 3chars, nto counting the other stuff

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if u2k+ is getting disproven it will take a long time to try every single combination

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can someone merge the savefiles pls

storm nacelle
#

btw how many elements do we have that do not start with u20000

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it got rid of the grid setup clover made tho ๐Ÿ˜ญ

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ill still be using the unmerged save

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but we have 1073 items combined

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minus 3 for the 3 equals sign eleemnts

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and minus 2 for the fffds

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1068 useful elements then

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and 1070 elements

cedar lotus
#

is 00 01 to 00 30 found

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what's the highest 00 xx found

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could you try for like 00 20 or sth?

storm nacelle
#

its very hard to get new 2chars

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and 1chars dont exist at all

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(yet)

cedar lotus
#

has someone combined all 2chaes

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and collected results

storm nacelle
#

run depth explorer on that

#

maybe

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see if we get any thign

cedar lotus
#

like that's how we got 00 10 15 iirc

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which was useful for the lower portion

storm nacelle
#

we have 3chars that dont start with 00 right?

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idk how to cataglo those

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bc it would be a pain to make a ton of sheets

rigid heart
#

ฬฏ (U+032F) proven, โ›…๏ธproven

ฬฏ + โ˜๏ธ = โ›…๏ธ
โ›…๏ธ + โ›…๏ธ = Sun
Sun + โ›…๏ธ = Sunny
Sun + Sunny = Summer
Summer + Sun = Heat
Heat + Heat = Fire```
#

random

rigid heart
#

idk lol

#

it is real

storm nacelle
#

there is so much stuff everywhere

#

btw does anyone have 3chars that are not marked on the sheet

#

?

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how many elements contain 40 or hgiher?

#

so we have every character up to 5f right?

#

if i understand correctly

merry sable
storm nacelle
#

where

merry sable
storm nacelle
#

we have every char

#

up to 5f

#

ok

#

@cedar lotus could you make a new copypaste tool for 40 to 7f?

merry sable
storm nacelle
#

it should be possible using other methods but not the obvious one(s)

merry sable
rigid heart
#

lol, 033f

merry sable
#

Can sb automatically diprove that?

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Its disproven ig

storm nacelle
merry sable
storm nacelle
rigid heart
#

It's way too big to just be disproven

storm nacelle
#

but the way it works means the ai will jsut keep incrementing

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so unless we get an out of left field "Egg" or whatever

rigid heart
#

Unless it just randomly spits out something useful

storm nacelle
#

it won't be provable

#

so i am switching to undecidable

rigid heart
#

It wasn't really out of left field

storm nacelle
#

maybe Chicken but we didnt combine it with Chicken

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it is more just AI randomness

rigid heart
#

True

storm nacelle
#

also i feel randomness is minimized with u2k+

#

bc the ai only sees the bytes

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and it probably won

#

t change the bytes

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to a Latin char

tulip trout
#

๐ †๐ ฉ๐ ฒ๐ ฅ

storm nacelle
#

or for that matter any char outside of CJK ext b

storm nacelle
rigid heart
hearty orbit
#

Captivate proven (17 -> Earth)
[Entrance proof](#1299426533492129905 message)

storm nacelle
#

which turns into this

hearty orbit
#

Stabbing & Stab proven (16 & 15 -> Earth)
[Sword proof](#1299426533492129905 message)

hearty orbit
storm nacelle
merry sable
#

iirc some chinese elements were proven with swastija

storm nacelle
#

it doesnt know they're chinese

#

it only sees the bytes of the charcode and thinks theyre unassigned chars or smth

rigid heart
#

Maybe they can lead to a Chinese char in the XXXX range lol

storm nacelle
#

decrementing is impossible

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we need ai randomness to do that

hearty orbit
storm nacelle
rigid heart
#

Same

storm nacelle
feral raven
#

Is it possible if the codepoints are far enough apart that the AI will see them as random nonsense, get confused, and make a character it knows better or Poseidon or something

storm nacelle
#

your fonts dont suppor these chars

merry sable
storm nacelle
storm nacelle
#

the only chars we have access to are 20000 through 2005f

#

and those are still too close to each other

#

also igtg soon

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bye

merry sable
#

Bb 0x16c

hearty orbit
#

It's Always Been Our Dream proven (20 -> Earth) [Reality proof](#1299426533492129905 message)
Teach Pokรฉmon To Understand & Understanding proven (18 & 17 -> Earth) [Wisdom proof](#1299426533492129905 message)

#

Pokemon to Fire (12)
-# [this is just Savio's egg -> fire proof](#1299426533492129905 message)

Pokemon + Pokemon = Egg
Egg + Egg = Bird
Bird + Bird = Flock
Bird + Egg = Omelette
Egg + Omelette = Chef
Chef + Flock = Shepherd
Omelette + Shepherd = Shepherdโ€™s Pie
Omelette + Shepherdโ€™s Pie = Breakfast Pie
Bird + Shepherd = Eagle
Bird + Eagle = Phoenix
Breakfast Pie + Chef = Pizza
Phoenix + Pizza = Fire  // 12
#

To Catch Them Is My Real Test & Gotta Catch 'em All proven (13 -> Fire) [Pokemon proof](#1299426533492129905 message)
(pokรฉmon), Pokรฉmon, Pokรฉmon! proven (12 -> Fire) [Egg Proof](#1299426533492129905 message)

#

Every Challenge Along The Way proven (8 -> Earth) [Boulder proof](#1299426533492129905 message)
Oh, You're My Best Friend proven ( 20 -> Earth) [Best Friends proof](#1299426533492129905 message)
Searching Far And Wide, proven (27 -> Earth) [Treasure proof](#1299426533492129905 message)

ebon glacier
#

Boulder

formal sluice
formal sluice
onyx siren
#

also i cant tell if you're just afk or if you're lagging

onyx siren
#

ok now i see it

onyx siren
#

are you afk again

formal sluice
#

interesting chart

formal sluice
onyx siren
#

or am i misremembering

#

i swear it wasnt always earth though

formal sluice
onyx siren
#

yeah i know

#

but i swear they used to be to something else

ebon glacier
onyx siren
#

im probably just misremembering

#

spontaneous lou appearance

ebon glacier
#

Lou.

onyx siren
#

sorry

ebon glacier
#

I just got back from work

onyx siren
#

you have a job?

ebon glacier
#

..yes sivvy thats how i supply myself

formal sluice
ebon glacier
formal sluice
#

im gonna end the stream for now and will start working on a proper db and site for this

onyx siren
#

ok

#

are you talking about this thread?

#

if so, isnt that just the sheet?

formal sluice
formal sluice
onyx siren
#

ok

formal sluice
formal sluice
rigid heart
#

before and after reviving 1 (one) element

#

อฃ (U+0363) seed

hearty orbit
#

Hyphen-Dash proven (33 -> Earth)
[Dot proof](#1299426533492129905 message)

#

@formal sluice could you resize the proven-elements column?

formal sluice
#

done

hearty orbit
#

Dash-dash proven (42 -> Earth)
[Help proof](#1299426533492129905 message)

#

Dot-dot proven (40 -> Earth)
[Help proof](#1299426533492129905 message)

#

Dot-dot-dot proven (40 -> Earth)
[Help proof](#1299426533492129905 message)

cedar lotus
# storm nacelle <@1003938403563352146> could you make a new copypaste tool for 40 to 7f?

late but

40 ๐ €   41 ๐    42 ๐ ‚   43 ๐ ƒ   44 ๐ „   45 ๐ …   46 ๐ †   47 ๐ ‡
48 ๐ ˆ   49 ๐ ‰   4a ๐ Š   4b ๐ ‹   4c ๐ Œ   4d ๐    4e ๐ Ž   4f ๐ 
50 ๐    51 ๐ ‘   52 ๐ ’   53 ๐ “   54 ๐ ”   55 ๐ •   56 ๐ –   57 ๐ —
58 ๐ ˜   59 ๐ ™   5a ๐ š   5b ๐ ›   5c ๐ œ   5d ๐    5e ๐ ž   5f ๐ Ÿ
60 ๐     61 ๐ ก   62 ๐ ข   63 ๐ ฃ   64 ๐ ค   65 ๐ ฅ   66 ๐ ฆ   67 ๐ ง
68 ๐ จ   69 ๐ ฉ   6a ๐ ช   6b ๐ ซ   6c ๐ ฌ   6d ๐ ญ   6e ๐ ฎ   6f ๐ ฏ
70 ๐ ฐ   71 ๐ ฑ   72 ๐ ฒ   73 ๐ ณ   74 ๐ ด   75 ๐ ต   76 ๐ ถ   77 ๐ ท
78 ๐ ธ   79 ๐ น   7a ๐ บ   7b ๐ ป   7c ๐ ผ   7d ๐ ฝ   7e ๐ พ   7f ๐ ฟ
#
print(*map('\t'.join,__import__("itertools").batched([f"{hex(i)[5:]} {chr(i)}" for i in range(0x20040,0x20080)],8)),sep='\n')```
#

Extended

00 ๐ €€   01 ๐ €   02 ๐ €‚   03 ๐ €ƒ   04 ๐ €„   05 ๐ €…   06 ๐ €†   07 ๐ €‡
08 ๐ €ˆ   09 ๐ €‰   0a ๐ €Š   0b ๐ €‹   0c ๐ €Œ   0d ๐ €   0e ๐ €Ž   0f ๐ €
10 ๐ €   11 ๐ €‘   12 ๐ €’   13 ๐ €“   14 ๐ €”   15 ๐ €•   16 ๐ €–   17 ๐ €—
18 ๐ €˜   19 ๐ €™   1a ๐ €š   1b ๐ €›   1c ๐ €œ   1d ๐ €   1e ๐ €ž   1f ๐ €Ÿ
20 ๐ €    21 ๐ €ก   22 ๐ €ข   23 ๐ €ฃ   24 ๐ €ค   25 ๐ €ฅ   26 ๐ €ฆ   27 ๐ €ง
28 ๐ €จ   29 ๐ €ฉ   2a ๐ €ช   2b ๐ €ซ   2c ๐ €ฌ   2d ๐ €ญ   2e ๐ €ฎ   2f ๐ €ฏ
30 ๐ €ฐ   31 ๐ €ฑ   32 ๐ €ฒ   33 ๐ €ณ   34 ๐ €ด   35 ๐ €ต   36 ๐ €ถ   37 ๐ €ท
38 ๐ €ธ   39 ๐ €น   3a ๐ €บ   3b ๐ €ป   3c ๐ €ผ   3d ๐ €ฝ   3e ๐ €พ   3f ๐ €ฟ
40 ๐ €   41 ๐    42 ๐ ‚   43 ๐ ƒ   44 ๐ „   45 ๐ …   46 ๐ †   47 ๐ ‡
48 ๐ ˆ   49 ๐ ‰   4a ๐ Š   4b ๐ ‹   4c ๐ Œ   4d ๐    4e ๐ Ž   4f ๐ 
50 ๐    51 ๐ ‘   52 ๐ ’   53 ๐ “   54 ๐ ”   55 ๐ •   56 ๐ –   57 ๐ —
58 ๐ ˜   59 ๐ ™   5a ๐ š   5b ๐ ›   5c ๐ œ   5d ๐    5e ๐ ž   5f ๐ Ÿ
60 ๐     61 ๐ ก   62 ๐ ข   63 ๐ ฃ   64 ๐ ค   65 ๐ ฅ   66 ๐ ฆ   67 ๐ ง
68 ๐ จ   69 ๐ ฉ   6a ๐ ช   6b ๐ ซ   6c ๐ ฌ   6d ๐ ญ   6e ๐ ฎ   6f ๐ ฏ
70 ๐ ฐ   71 ๐ ฑ   72 ๐ ฒ   73 ๐ ณ   74 ๐ ด   75 ๐ ต   76 ๐ ถ   77 ๐ ท
78 ๐ ธ   79 ๐ น   7a ๐ บ   7b ๐ ป   7c ๐ ผ   7d ๐ ฝ   7e ๐ พ   7f ๐ ฟ
cedar lotus
#

B, What Is The Value Of `? proven via 10 lol (38 steps to Earth)

#

interestingly, 900 + B, What Is The Value Of `? = 1000`

#

welp I'm going to try prove that

#

at some point llol

cedar lotus
rigid heart
#

damn

storm nacelle
#

'o disproven

#

All lengths of ๆฑ (U+6C41) disproven)

#

+ (space) proven

#

Taraxacum and Taraxacum officinale disproven

#

0d-3b first new 3char of today

#

771 -> 772 found 3chars

#

Updated 3char sheet

storm nacelle
#

Broke another barrier

#

11-xx can now be extended again!

#

Stops at 2d, exactly as predicted

#

There are now more than 800 known 3chars

#

0d-2d found

storm nacelle
#

not

haughty lotus
storm nacelle
#

its asd's tooltips script

#

but modified so that every single char is counted as an "exotic char"

#

and therefore shows up with tooltips

#

btw whats the highest depth thats been crawled for u2k+?

tropic dagger
#

16

storm nacelle
#

well

#

"main"

tropic dagger
#

because qadi got banned from this server for no reason

storm nacelle
#

oh is that why all the messages got deleted?

storm nacelle
#

my depthexplorer is almost done with depth 13

formal sluice
#

Or was the discord account banned?

storm nacelle
#

fffd spam galore

tropic dagger
storm nacelle
#

server

tropic dagger
storm nacelle
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Element count growth by depth

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Like most IC element counts, it grows exponentially

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Logarithmic scale allows you to see what's going on more accurately

haughty lotus
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but i need to confirm they are the same ones asd has

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some arent fd so yea

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i dont want to overwrite any of my saves

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23

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what

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HOW

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wait what

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HOW DO YOU HAVE 2CHARS

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started with this

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ok wait

tropic dagger
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send ib lineage ig

haughty lotus
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i was just merging random stuff from clovers file and found it

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new 2chars is major progress

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idk i gotit yesterday and sent my savefile and went to sleep

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oh

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cedar lotus
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well I haven't done much for a while

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but

tropic dagger
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its like halfway through depth 15 now

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itll still take some time to catch up to savio

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ok so uhm

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how do i plan to catalog these new 2chars

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ig i just duplicate the 3char sheet

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and unmark everything

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3b is still a whitehole for some reason

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also i have these elements which seem interesting

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just so we can keep track of what's found and what isnt

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i just found thisd too

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here is how it appears on the sheet

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cedar lotus
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can you drag them out

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i don't know the 20k chars by heart

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and I don't think @storm nacelle does either

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having the grid is useful

haughty lotus
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i just got like 15 more

cedar lotus
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atp just "finish up" then send your save maybe

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yes i am ok

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0x16c are you okay

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@haughty lotus could you lay them out in a grid like this?

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that will make it easier to add them to the sheet

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thx

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do u need them in order tho

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full uncropped map

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there's still a very large void separating this new island from the stuff we started with at the top left

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some more 2

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since you have 34-3e

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also do you have 34-3f

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?

haughty lotus
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oh

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alr

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could you send your save again

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i fell behind on the current progress

haughty lotus
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New approximate "coastline" of this island

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idk how to expand past these red cells

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idk how we will get out of these unicode characters to base elements

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this seems kinda impossible

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but its also too large to disprove

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who found this

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(too large as in we have too many elements)

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somehow

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idk how'

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i got emojis from barrier breaking before

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very low

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any chance we can at least break through 5f?

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yeah for sure

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there's still a lot of red characters here

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asd can you tmake some of these green?

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my depth explorer is 25% through depth 16 now

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btw

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im stuck in the 2003zone

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maybe you can get {2003c}{2003c}

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which is unfound

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?

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haughty lotus
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it was marked as white

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bc you never showed me that element was found

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i marked it as green now

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oh

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sry

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i found 62

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do you have 63 and 64

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?

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wait i'm incrementing

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until 70

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count is at 113 now

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we've officially broken into radical #2

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only 47157 characters to go until the end of the block!!! ๐Ÿฅณ

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btw does anyone actually have a decent idea on how to get to a base element (or element containing a latin char or number)???

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114

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tulip trout
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amazing, i tried other offsets but not this

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128 chars now i assume

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do you have 7c

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because it got skipped

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so barrier break is needed for more chars

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oh wait

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7c got skipped>

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?

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also skipped 75 but I have that

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how is my depth explorer not done with depth 16 yet

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๐Ÿ˜ญ

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how's it going, have yall gotten to 80 yet?

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no

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we can all agree this will be the first 10 steps of the proof right?

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can you run depthExplorerLineages() rq and check the number of elements you currently have

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any progress?

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what elements should I use tho

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