Unicode

[chilly fulcrum]

Also if you can, can you point me to resources for how to do this pivot table it makes no sense

[regal fulcrum]

wwell

one sec

@abstract marsh Bhaiksuki

[regal fulcrum]

"the Append U+000a"?

lineage anywhere?

[pulsar island]

"the append u+00" + u+000a

"the append u" + u+00

"the append" + u

[regal fulcrum]

ight tyty

[pulsar island]

nppp

[chilly fulcrum]

i havent made a standardised method yet

my goal was to make something like a codepoint creation guide

[regal fulcrum]

Killerbowser's strat is not documented formally?

[chilly fulcrum]

documentation for unicode project is well short of what i envisioned, i have tried to get some traction going with it but the ideas have kinda been: idea -> start writing -> work alone for a while -> shelve idea -> repeat

[unkempt lantern]

just checking in occasionally to see what's new

[chilly fulcrum]

so i mean its kinda documented in his messages, but in terms of a guide somewhere specific to the project that ive signed off on? nope

[sonic heart]

gg!

[regal fulcrum]

So undocumented

This community (me included) has a serious issue with documenting findings and strats

This is partly why the community never has fresh blood i think!

Takes so much effort just to get what tf we're doing

[heady escarp]

this recipe for Lithuanian Translation doesnt work

[echo wasp]

That's... not true

[pulsar island]

i got this but it has no u+smt booooooooo

[chilly fulcrum]

well its not a character then, but you should find what it is

by using console

[chilly fulcrum]

i know, its so sad

[pulsar island]

how do i use the ocnsole

[sonic heart]

F12

[final sable]

Inspect element

[chilly fulcrum]

yeah, i really want to document more, but i seem to be somewhat alone in that.

[final sable]

the problem has been/is being addressed for general Infinite Craft gameplay, but yeah specific projects—especially this one—can be tech-heavy

[sonic heart]

i forgot to put this

[chilly fulcrum]

all the failed documentation projects ive started is kinda embarrassing

[hybrid dune]

i mean you could make people run a script that compares the unicode sheet recipes with their own recipes, and if they have an easier one that one gets put on the sheet!!!!

you could also have multiple recipes for each unicode

[chilly fulcrum]

"easier" is kinda hard to determine

[hybrid dune]

hm true

[chilly fulcrum]

and some chars do have multiple recipes yeah

look if you reckon you can figure it out

by all means go ahead

[hybrid dune]

incrementing last unicode would definitly already be easier tho

[chilly fulcrum]

but the documentation i mean was just mostly for basic tools and tools used

and tools that can be "algorithmically" generated

like codepoints

and append/prepend codepoints

etc.

the procedure i envision is something like this:

1. For tools that should be like "basic" - have a list of them and a link to it and how to make them (not within the recipes in sheet)
2. For tools that are easy to make algorithmically using those "basic" tools - provide a guide of how to do so and link it
3. For tools that are not makable like that but are still "commonly" used, (including things specific to an active contributor or a specific block of characters) - provide links to them in some other general type section as well as links in their first use instance on the sheet
4. For one off random ahh tools, just link the lineage every time

this should minimise number of explicit links needed to be dropped in but maximise accessibility

[hybrid dune]

ok, but did you ever make a guide for U+FE69?

like just making codepoints

[chilly fulcrum]

falls under category 2

[hybrid dune]

exactly, but is there one?

[chilly fulcrum]

not yet

but it is my goal that we have one

[hybrid dune]

where are all the guides gonna be located?

like on a seperate google doc thing?

[chilly fulcrum]

open to suggestions

most likely yeah, sheet is for lists

not for guides

[hybrid dune]

well then make the sheet ;p

ill happily write a guide for it

like a section i mean

using non quirky Catstone tools, but actual ones lol

[chilly fulcrum]

oh no need for separate sheet I just mean like link to a doc

[hybrid dune]

oh a discord link?

[chilly fulcrum]

Hmm no hang on I’m walking be a few mins

so basically i mean that the sheet in a section like FAQ will explain to the user what to do if they dont know how to make the ingredients to the character they want

and it will go through things like well, if the ingredients are standard tools, go here

if they are other unicode chars, the sheet itself has them

(hopefully)

if they can be algorithmically generated, go here

if they are block/user specific or common but nonstandard, go here

and also try ctrl+f and discord search

and if nothing then ask us

what is that analyser

i used the script

specifically undoc_chars_auto.py

see if you can find it, using the resources sheet

(important for me to evaluate the documentation ive provided)

detailed instructions for use should be in the readme in the repo

the only instructions needed for someone who knows what they are doing is: make sure you have pip installed the requests module

[sage wren]

If you look inside your left arm. You'll find many rocks. scientists have never been able to Explain why though .. ,

[hybrid dune]

i wonder which one of the men got pregnant and made those children

[chilly fulcrum]

oh nice mod, what is it

oh, wheres the trouble?

[hybrid dune]

utils mod, but i didnt release that feature yet

i can also spawn many rows ;p

[chilly fulcrum]

ah nice, thats a cool feature

also whats up with feff

was it treated as the byte order mark and removed

cause js does that

[hybrid dune]

wait what

why is it gone lmao

i didnt even notice

[chilly fulcrum]

exactly

[hybrid dune]

huh

[chilly fulcrum]

js does that

try making a string with feff as the first char

[hybrid dune]

is that the only character that does that?

[chilly fulcrum]

then query the contents of that string/print it/process it in any way shape or form

[hybrid dune]

because then i got lucky with that screenshot lmao

[chilly fulcrum]

well i already knew js does that, and i think its the only one yes

but like if you do

x = "\u{feff}hi"

and then

you query what x is

i think the result is just "hi"

[hybrid dune]

bruh.

ima care about that tomorrow i really gotta go to sleep

[chilly fulcrum]

also sucks that like, somehow everyone here is at worst possible tz to me

im used to servers with lots of US members, who are usually online till like, at least midday my time

but here everyones gone by the time i wake up and they are only back once i go to bed

progress is slowed significantly

i mean check the sheet

if its not there, probably nobody knows

what do you mean

did you get the script working

check the sheet

And what did it say

I didn’t put them all in yet

What did the script say

what was the output

the script doesn’t just do nothing you know

It gives an output…

well it would be highly unusual to not note what it said

nothing, ok thanks

Just need to make sure that’s like, really nothing that’s all

maybe

[sage wren]

is it old

[chilly fulcrum]

it may have just put in a fake fd status then

but it may be real

no idea

[chilly fulcrum]

happened sometimes yeah, lthough how frequent is it?

[abstract marsh]

i wonder how many cjk can i farm before getting bored

[sage wren]

fifteen

[echo wasp]

five

[abstract marsh]

too bad, i got rate limited by crafting too fast yesterday

shouldnt have merged 8 times in 3 sec 😂

[abstract marsh]

sometimes i just think
aint unicode pretty, we kept getting attention from month to month 🗿

[regal fulcrum]

We got attention again?

[untold crystal]

not even ChatGPT is useful anymore. "tools" that should give Tangut chars according to ChatGPT. Still no new Tangut characters found even with the help of these ones.

If anyone wants to try stuff with Xi-xia here is a quick recipe for it. It was a pain to revive it.

[abstract marsh]

ok so what... will U+a8d59 or smth nearby gonna be U+20840?

[abstract marsh]

nearly correct XD, it was 6
i'll continue later

[chilly fulcrum]

Oh god see I tried ChatGPT suggestions and was able to make one took it suggested because it took ages

what codepoints did you test against

[chilly fulcrum]

There was a period of about a month where it was borderline dead

compared to then, it is very busy in here

[regal fulcrum]

I see

Thought I missed some specific lore

[chilly fulcrum]

yeah you werent here much for a while, i get that feeling

[abstract marsh]

dont left it alone 😭

nvm that, how do u get Ideographic

[abstract marsh]

there's alot, probs from the grind i assume...

[chilly fulcrum]

argh i am noticing the font isnt noto there... noooo

[chilly fulcrum]

oh right i meant to document that separately somehow, idk how but i was planning on having a section in tools directory for those

[abstract marsh]

tool directory... sound like it gonna have over 1k tools needed to be documented

[chilly fulcrum]

not really, only stuff thats user/block specific

if they can be made like, algorithmically then i only need one link to explanation

[abstract marsh]

i guess i'll stop exploring U+A8Dxx ( 00-6F )

[chilly fulcrum]

why u up there

[tepid blaze]

i wonder if some people have some PUA's that aren't in #1206592567622373446 message

[abstract marsh]

cuz i was grinding random cjk unicodes

#1206592567622373446 message
this is why....

yeay got one new XD

[abstract marsh]

bruh why i cant increment it normally

cool 14% on cjk progress

not fd, but not in sheet, i guess i'll use mine

they're all dead though? and only 4

but sure, have fun playing around with my stuff
FD isnt edited though, gl

oh, i see
its mostly using "..u-" method to get it
then increment it from 00 to 0f

nice i passed 20k element without knowing

[heady escarp]

example

[abstract marsh]

Append 'c'
... what

[abstract marsh]

@chilly fulcrum uhh, if ur interested in new tools, gl in exploring "the Unicode In A" till Z

[heady escarp]

what else u want me to use

'c' didnt work

[abstract marsh]

"c"
?

[heady escarp]

oh yeah "c" worked

but append 'c' is just an alternative to 'c'

[abstract marsh]

well, im still grinding unicode XD

[heady escarp]

how many u+xxxx or u+xxxxx elements do u have glowy

[abstract marsh]

codepoint or unicode?

[heady escarp]

idk which is which

[heady escarp]

is codepoint this?

[abstract marsh]

codepoint U+1234 U+12345 stuff
unicode A B C D E F

[heady escarp]

yeah codepoints

[abstract marsh]

cant count :D

[abstract marsh]

less than 6k definitely

lets just say between 5k-5.9k

[heady escarp]

jesus

idk how many i have but probably 50-200

[abstract marsh]

i guess i grinded too much

[tepid blaze]

yay 3%

[abstract marsh]

what the frick

[heady escarp]

no u didnt it just seems like a lot to me

but u can now bruteforce them all with tools right?

ur probably gonna find lots of unicode if u do that

[abstract marsh]

im not into bruteforcing unicodes, gonna let other do it

fuezt, where is that sheet for PUA

[chilly fulcrum]

hmm, isnt there like, 200,000 private use

[tepid blaze]

depend here its the basic 6k , if you talk of suplementary then yes its way more (but they have their own sheet on PUA's spreadsheet )

[chilly fulcrum]

so that would be more like 0.1%

ok

[tepid blaze]

#1206592567622373446 message

[abstract marsh]

196 documented
thats a feat already

[chilly fulcrum]

💀

[weak spindle]

U+2161

U+2460

[abstract marsh]

U+24D96

[chilly fulcrum]

lol, fun, we have em already but do you reckon yours is a lot simpler? ill check soon

[weak spindle]

idk, is there a script to get the recipe?

[heady escarp]

helper script????????

[weak spindle]

I mean automatically get all the steps, im lazy

[chilly fulcrum]

you can upload file to browser, although its alg i dont think works as intended

[weak spindle]

I used Convert Hyphens To Spaces so it's probably not optimal lol

[chilly fulcrum]

well okay, what was the intent of sending if i may ask

nothing "wrong" with it, but im just curious

[weak spindle]

I thought it was just funny, the AI can be unpredictable

[chilly fulcrum]

sure

[weak spindle]

I was actually trying to see if I could multiply it, not whatever that was

[chilly fulcrum]

well, theres like a certain "mode" that the ai kinda goes into when it knows you want unicode but youve used a not specific tool, or its just lazy

it either gives emojis or random 2xxx in this "mode"

so yeah, like U+0010 + nonspecific tool will do that

262f is its main fall back

for 2xxx

also, are you trying to multiply because you are struggling to make them? i can help

theres a nice standard procedure to do it, although the documentation is not where id like it

[abstract marsh]

bruh i typing Remove The Mir. in the sheet

[chilly fulcrum]

remove the mir

1998

[abstract marsh]

removing all these in a few click is pure bliss

[chilly fulcrum]

oh cool, is this like, utils mod or something?

[raven beacon]

seems like utils

utils is so good

tabs, copy paste, unicode search, dragin mass amount of items

[abstract marsh]

yeah, it saved me more than 1k click already

[raven beacon]

spawnig altphabets is also nice

[weak spindle]

I want to get U+00AD-AF

[chilly fulcrum]

the codepoints? theres a section in sheet for it, but its not great i must admit

its gonna get removed i think anyway

all the strats used there dont work anymore and/or are obsolete

[abstract marsh]

U+20BA4

oh well it stuck...
i guess i'll leave it alone

[chilly fulcrum]

hmm, you seem to be hitting trouble a lot

[abstract marsh]

i dont have advanced increment tools

[chilly fulcrum]

usually i find it is more or less "free" up that high to increment, do you always try next letter and next codepoint?

[abstract marsh]

tried alot of next related element doesnt give a fruit

[chilly fulcrum]

and it didnt skip to ba9?

[abstract marsh]

im talking about bac to bad

[chilly fulcrum]

ohh

[abstract marsh]

same for this 20B95 to 20B96

[chilly fulcrum]

like, its not skipping? like it actually just stopped?

[weak spindle]

Is this the highest unicode character that's been discovered?

[abstract marsh]

yes

[chilly fulcrum]

nope

[weak spindle]

What is it?

[chilly fulcrum]

like 30eff

on cjk sheet

[abstract marsh]

wew accurate

[chilly fulcrum]

real?

damn ok

[abstract marsh]

thanks
Unicode In Bhaiksuki
The Unicode In Bhaiksuki

[abstract marsh]

increment is okayish
but decrement/subtracting... well thats rare

alright will continue other time

[chilly fulcrum]

is the ways to reach ingredients known?

remember bot is down now

so if its there its gone 💀

[abstract marsh]

in reply

[heady escarp]

have u tried getting stuff like Add U+0020 or Subtract U+0020. and U+0020 could be characters like ! @ # $ % ^ etc, or any english letter

i mean im wondering if it would work better than stuff like Append U+0020

[abstract marsh]

yeah, if u need all ingredients
i might as well just put it as lineage using ib

[chilly fulcrum]

what about the stuff for that? sorry i get paranoid sometimes

[abstract marsh]

https://ib.zptr.cc/item/01j6evcy5fvc78yq2r46vrmp08
https://ib.zptr.cc/item/01j6eve0rncffwek5km6q507nc

[regal fulcrum]

Sick

[abstract marsh]

if u just want here "the Unicode In A" until Z
#1206592567622373446 message

[chilly fulcrum]

yeah i think i can do it

[weak spindle]

"the Add U+0020" has already been discovered, but I can't seem to remove the the

[heady escarp]

i can try

[abstract marsh]

imagine tongue twister with the the

[chilly fulcrum]

oh

add U+0020 i have

with "01mr."

[abstract marsh]

question would be, how would these be useful 😂

[heady escarp]

idk how to unquote it

[weak spindle]

How did you get that? Combining it with other Add U+ elements might work

[chilly fulcrum]

oh, um let me make lineage for it

did you try "01mr. "

[weak spindle]

no

[candid trellis]

wasnt there a bounty for that?

[weak spindle]

numbers can be appended with numbers in double quotes " or single quotes/apostrophes '

[candid trellis]

[Add U+0020](#1215495041049436170 message)

[heady escarp]

dang it

[chilly fulcrum]

heres how i did, this is like a very old element from months ago that i followed a recipe for

[candid trellis]

I linked the original message ._.

[weak spindle]

How do you get Without The Mr?

[heady escarp]

brent and rubiks already sent lineages

[chilly fulcrum]

but.. without the mr

i have fd on Without The Ms. 💀

i was just trying to make without the the

; ;

[weak spindle]

I have fd on Erase The The :^)

[chilly fulcrum]

which i still dont have btw

[heady escarp]

u want recipe for without the the?

[chilly fulcrum]

if theres a list of without the x somewhere id prefer that

asking over and over is annoying for you and me

[weak spindle]

I used mr. Add U+0020 + Convert Add To Subtract so not exactly optimal

[heady escarp]

i hve these

[chilly fulcrum]

seems good to me, was there a place you found em

[heady escarp]

idk i just have them

do u want any recipes

[chilly fulcrum]

well, sure but id much rather know where you got them from

[heady escarp]

well how do i know that

[chilly fulcrum]

well if you remember of course

if you for whatever reason dont, then thats okay

[heady escarp]

i either followed lineages, made them myself, or it came with the community savefile

and i dont remember anything about any of these elements

[chilly fulcrum]

k

[heady escarp]

i mean i at least got FD on without the mrs and without the mrs. myself

but i dont remember anyhting on the other elemnets

[candid trellis]

U+0000

[weak spindle]

elements ending in hex tend to be dead because of capitalization

[candid trellis]

This is uppercase Omega right?

[sage wren]

perchance

[candid trellis]

weird nobody's got the lowercase one in ' ' then

[untold crystal]

do you need it?

in ' '

[candid trellis]

No, just checked some of my unicode characters in " " and ' ' to see what I had and saw that

[untold crystal]

now it should work, if it's omega

[echo wasp]

yep it is

[chilly fulcrum]

oh nice, how did omega lowercase get done? i assume some greek translation?

[echo wasp]

🤔🤫🤫

[heady escarp]

the power of friendship

[echo wasp]

with neal

[heady escarp]

also did u guys already have omega in quotes

this is how i turned turned a letter from normal quotes into single quotes

[echo wasp]

that is a lil luck based tho

[heady escarp]

ik

[echo wasp]

I'll see if its dead

[heady escarp]

ok, if its alive tell me the recipe i wanna try turning it to single quotes

[echo wasp]

"ω" has been crafted before

[heady escarp]

ok whats the recipe

tell me, person who shoots and destroys aliens

[echo wasp]

idk, running a dead test doesn't give recipes

[heady escarp]

how do u run a dead test

[tepid blaze]

technically you can try to use 'string.fromcharcode' to have more chance getting a character in ''

[heady escarp]

#1244621837787463712 message

[sonic heart]

uppercase omega

[heady escarp]

i mean theres no difference between uppercase and lowercse if its alive

[sonic heart]

ye

lol

[echo wasp]

actually seems quite good if you add a lot of letters

[heady escarp]

my recipe for it

[heady escarp]

oh

i combined it with 'alphabet' and it didnt work so i went to a more advanced method

[heady escarp]

i didnt try combining it with multiple letters in single quotes

but i got FD on Append 'ω' in the process

also what are these letters

[echo wasp]

alpha beta

[heady escarp]

are they also greek letters

ill try to get these two in single quotes as well

[echo wasp]

yes

[echo wasp]

(beta is the one on the left)

[heady escarp]

not FDs

[echo wasp]

Well these are very common ones so yea

[heady escarp]

how many greek letters are there

[echo wasp]

Α α, Β β, Γ γ, Δ δ, Ε ε, Ζ ζ, Η η, Θ θ, Ι ι, Κ κ, Λ λ, Μ μ, Ν ν, Ξ ξ, Ο ο, Π π, Ρ ρ, Σ σ/ς, Τ τ, Υ υ, Φ φ, Χ χ, Ψ ψ, Ω ω.

[heady escarp]

also greek right?

so 24

bro wtf is Σ σ/ς

what does that mean

[echo wasp]

yea

two different chars

[chilly fulcrum]

24* until you look at Unicode and see there is like more somehow

[echo wasp]

ancient letters exist

24 currently used ones

wait lemme verify could be sudden brain damage

reversed, dotted, archaic, etc aren't counted

[echo wasp]

uh ignore

most of the Greek stuff in unicode are just regular Greek letters with stuff

[heady escarp]

lol wtf

guys i got Append 'o' first discovery oh mai god guys!!!

!!!!

🙀

[echo wasp]

fake o lol

[heady escarp]

what if i got like Volcano with this o

[echo wasp]

it's just omicron :))

[heady escarp]

and posted in first discoveries on an alt account

on an alt that joined 1 hour before it

[echo wasp]

there are some other fake o's as well

[heady escarp]

do u think people will think im cheating

[echo wasp]

perchance

[heady escarp]

what

[echo wasp]

v𐐬lcano

[sonic heart]

cyrillic i and e

Fіrе
Fire

[heady escarp]

hey u should go on an alt account

[sonic heart]

lol

[heady escarp]

then post it in first discoveries

[echo wasp]

Sea

𐐠ea

[sonic heart]

the S is a bit different

[echo wasp]

V𐊒LCANO

[echo wasp]

VOLCANO

spot the difference without using analyser

[sonic heart]

first O is a few fixels taller

[echo wasp]

𐊒

[sonic heart]

O𐊒

[echo wasp]

lycian letter :))

honestly quite hard to tell apart

[heady escarp]

no one got this yet before now

[sonic heart]

ok

[echo wasp]

ok

𐊒k.

[heady escarp]

no ok

nok

nokia

[echo wasp]

nooo

nook

[heady escarp]

harder than bedrock

bedrock

1.16

[sonic heart]

Vоlcano
Volcano

[echo wasp]

bedrook

[sonic heart]

guess which one has a cyrillic o

[heady escarp]

wake up guys new 1.16 update just dropped 🗣️

[heady escarp]

that one

[echo wasp]

Cyrillic o

[echo wasp]

First one

[sonic heart]

yes

how did you know

[echo wasp]

random guess lol

looked a bit longer tho so yea

[heady escarp]

i love long things

[sonic heart]

Vоlcаnо

Volcano

2 cyrillic Os

and a cyrillic a

[weak spindle]

more quoted fds

[heady escarp]

what does this mean

[echo wasp]

sth

[heady escarp]

i thought we already got 2 letter 'alphabet' 🙀

[sonic heart]

ffc3

[echo wasp]

crazy fd

[heady escarp]

guys look at my first discovery

[sonic heart]

no way

[heady escarp]

🙀

how has no one gotten the full 'alphabet' before 😱

(i totally didnt cheat this in)

oh no i got shot by a gun

call 112

[heady escarp]

newest fd just dropped 🗿

[sonic heart]

ffe8

[sand coral]

0F63

[sonic heart]

ffed (sorry lmfao)

[echo wasp]

do you want to have fun getting 007f?

[sonic heart]

no

no

no

[echo wasp]

since its not a barrier break

it should be "very easy"

[sonic heart]

then you get it

i aint touching controls

[sand coral]

0F74

[echo wasp]

you see youve proven to be very good at filling gaps

[chilly fulcrum]

Ahh damn so many options yeah I remember when I used to try every delete

[echo wasp]

ok fine then get fffc

[sonic heart]

i prob wont be able to get it but ok

[chilly fulcrum]

my best idea for fffc is Twitch Emote Error + something to make a character

[sonic heart]

lmao

i dont have inst and the recipe for it seems confusing af

[echo wasp]

inst has been really optimised

[sand coral]

109 steps #1226511876733669436 message

[sonic heart]

ah

[chilly fulcrum]

If it’s not in the sheet chuck it in just for completeness

can’t hurt

[echo wasp]

its not a unicode tool

and it is in the awwo shet

[sand coral]

0F7E

[chilly fulcrum]

lol nice

which of those experimental tables can be archived btw? I’m not sure what is or isn’t being worked on with them

[graceful marsh]

The one you're working on can be the proper one now

Sorry haven't been able to work on it, I've had much more limited free time lately

[chilly fulcrum]

I’m not technically working on any of them

I gave up as soon as the pivot table didn’t do what I wanted

[graceful marsh]

Keep that one

I'll fix it eventually

[heady escarp]

i got the greek Append 'alphabet' and greek 'alphabet'

all append 'x' where FDs and a lot/most 'x' where FDs

tell me if anyone wants any recipes

[sand coral]

easier 0F7C

[untold crystal]

My recipe was 'mr-' + "omega"(the sign)+ 2x remove first character

[sonic heart]

gg ez

[echo wasp]

nice lol

see you're clearly fit for the task (007F)

[sonic heart]

no-

[echo wasp]

face it... 😈

wait how long is the lineage

if it is above 10 steps then you're fit for 007f

[sonic heart]

fffc

[echo wasp]

if its below you're still fit for 7f

[sonic heart]

its 8 lol

[echo wasp]

yeah so you're fit for it

[sonic heart]

just copy what i did i dont wanna do it

[echo wasp]

how about you go and battle with 007f :))

I'm sure I will hear a "gg ez" very soon! :)

[sonic heart]

i do not wanna do it

[echo wasp]

well you have been forced to by air

whatever that means

[sonic heart]

lol

[echo wasp]

alright now make U+e0000

or U+e0001

[sonic heart]

fuck no

[echo wasp]

youve proven to be fit for thse chars

[sonic heart]

those are prob impossible tbh

[echo wasp]

even 0000 is very ez :))

[sonic heart]

i fill gaps

i dont go into uncharted territory

[echo wasp]

0099 and 007f is a gap 😭

[sonic heart]

normal gaps

that arent controls

gaps that are on the sheet

[echo wasp]

U+003d please

[sonic heart]

real

hopefully awwm gets something with 020a "soon"

[echo wasp]

thats what we said when we couldn't get 00ad

[echo wasp]

I'm gonna request 7f very soon

just gotta complete my fffc request

[sonic heart]

you had an fffc request?

[echo wasp]

yea, String.append('fffc')

[sonic heart]

lmao

[echo wasp]

ok now get 203e

it's within the Savio Rules

[sonic heart]

f964

[sonic heart]

alright fine i'll try

but i have to get ready for school in a bit

so i prob wont get it in time

[echo wasp]

aight

[chilly fulcrum]

Yeah I’d like, mostly because I don’t have a clue how you’d pull this off without killing all the elements involved

[candid trellis]

easy

[chilly fulcrum]

?

[sonic heart]

lmao

[chilly fulcrum]

is that a joke or real

[candid trellis]

real

[chilly fulcrum]

you sure?

[candid trellis]

Yeah I just made it ....

[chilly fulcrum]

uh huh…

[candid trellis]

Try it

[chilly fulcrum]

huh? that never works

Not once

it gives ?

every time I’ve ever used it

[abstract marsh]

interesting!

[sonic heart]

cool lol

[chilly fulcrum]

Try it on other stuff then

[echo wasp]

very lucky lol

[chilly fulcrum]

Doesn’t look easy to me, that’s a few hours work already

[candid trellis]

like?

[chilly fulcrum]

to get all those variants

and not give up before the last one

[sonic heart]

try it on 020a, 020e, 024e, 0291

[echo wasp]

its only 6

[candid trellis]

I made all 6 of those in 1 go

[chilly fulcrum]

that’s a lot

how??

[echo wasp]

they are all the same thing lol

[chilly fulcrum]

that’s hours of work minimum for me

[abstract marsh]

without necessary tools, yeah it will

[candid trellis]

It's just quotes, hashtagging and then deleting hyphen

[echo wasp]

its the same thing... in different progression of step

[chilly fulcrum]

kind of

[abstract marsh]

it's just
i dont think so

[chilly fulcrum]

depends I guess

[echo wasp]

wym depends, it is

[chilly fulcrum]

some tools can let you do that but in my experience it’s rare, which is why I still don’t get it when people drop like 5 tools at once

can’t relate to any experience I’ve had

[echo wasp]

cuz its the same lineage???

[chilly fulcrum]

Like to just make one of them it’s fighting for ages appending every letter and dealing with the fact it makes Nothing on the last few because it’s too obvious

[echo wasp]

take a break you need some sleep

[chilly fulcrum]

lol true

[echo wasp]

Well I think we are too used to hi Mr. and forget that hyphen strats don't reallt have that issue

[candid trellis]

Give Me The Codepoint + U+020a = 500 error

[chilly fulcrum]

I guess I am just shocked that worked, I think we fed Give Me This/That Character through a most intense testing scheme and it gave ? well over 90% of the time

With the other 10% being Nothing or 500

But maybe cause we only tried on hard stuff

[candid trellis]

also didnt work (gonna try their Mr. versions rq)

[chilly fulcrum]

like the letter A would likely work

Their Mr versions?

[candid trellis]

Mr. U+020X

[chilly fulcrum]

Hmm ok

they’re rarely used but worth a shot

[candid trellis]

from the "..u-..." + Mr. U+
also didnt give anything

gonna try 024e and 0291

[chilly fulcrum]

well it’s a nice find, we can chuck all 6 of those into the tools section if you give us a lineage for them, can even have ur own section in that sheet lol

[abstract marsh]

i'll just watch until i find smthing useful

[candid trellis]

U+024e keeps giving U+24EE and U+24CE

[chilly fulcrum]

normal behaviour

[abstract marsh]

quite normal behaviour

[candid trellis]

mhm

also nothing

[chilly fulcrum]

Yeah very normal

but it might be good for u+2xxx

[candid trellis]

I think from my last unicode post thingy of characters, one of them was also with Give Me The Codepoint Of

I tried a random empty gap in a (long) list at that time (I think it was my first time testing?)

lemme check what is was

[chilly fulcrum]

we don’t have any characters from high U+2dxx

[chilly fulcrum]

Hmm ok sure, remember recipe so we can put in

Interesting that asking for the reverse thing is somehow working

like codepoint is the thing we dont want but we have a formula to easily make

[candid trellis]

#1206592567622373446 message

Here, this one
(was FD)

[chilly fulcrum]

nice

well it might prove rather useful then

[candid trellis]

making a lineage rq

[chilly fulcrum]

Ty

[sonic heart]

looks like it only either gives stuff in 2xxx or makes the correct char lol

[chilly fulcrum]

try it on high 22xx

2dxx*

We don’t have a single char there

[abstract marsh]

5 codepoint 💀

[candid trellis]

If anyone has a better "unhashtag" for #give-me-the-codepoint , then be my guest to improve it
(I made the correct caps originally but thats a worse element needed)

"give-me-the-codepoint"
"give-me-the-codepoint-of"
#give-me-the-codepoint
#give-me-the-codepoint-of
Give Me The Codepoint
Give Me The Codepoint Of

[candid trellis]

SYRIAC LETTER DOTLESS DALATH RISH ܖ

[graceful marsh]

You're kidding

[candid trellis]

?

[graceful marsh]

I've been doing Syriac for the past 6 months and this is how the game repays me

[candid trellis]

Some people are just built different

[graceful marsh]

I can't believe how well your flirting arc went

[sonic heart]

Lmfao

[graceful marsh]

The game is doing things for you now

I'm gonna figure out a way to break you up

[candid trellis]

unassigned U+114DE

[sand coral]

not the right one but i'll take it

[candid trellis]

You. Monster.

[abstract marsh]

so.. when ur going to find unicode? XD

[sand coral]

nice

[sonic heart]

Holy

[untold crystal]

0A51, 0A59 just a lot of Next Codepoints until it reaches 0A59

[untold crystal]

u+3700

[untold crystal]

#1206592567622373446 message
All used stuff are here

A few more tools from this area: Give-me-the-codepoint, Give-me-the-codepoint-of, Give-me-the-codepoint-of-the, Give me the codepoint of the

[pulsar island]

Do they work?

[lethal nymph]

in unicode, everything works!

[untold crystal]

yea...the same as the other ones

For example here some of the elements with "the" at the end gave a different result

[untold crystal]

A direct u+0A59 recipe

[pulsar island]

Hooray!

[candid trellis]

#1206592567622373446 message
scroll up 💀

#1206592567622373446 message
scroll up more 💀

[sage wren]

me when im too lazy to search

[candid trellis]

You do your name justice

[glad roost]

but will Next Brent Codepoint work?

[candid trellis]

ofc

[sonic heart]

weird

[sonic heart]

f971

[sonic heart]

f977

f97f

[chilly fulcrum]

Unicode Arabic to exit, interesting

kinda concerning

like, yeah it swapped 18 with 17

almost certain

[sonic heart]

damn

[chilly fulcrum]

it also swaps it with 10

here

its swapping the 18 with 10

what was the original way to unhash #give-me-the-codepoint btw

[sonic heart]

append u+0020

[chilly fulcrum]

no but thats the dead way

also yeah this is what i would have expected the tool to do

see how it is giving codepoints

(theyre wrong but ignoring that)

hmm how can i turn Unicode Cyrillic Extended A into B and so on

got it lol

reverse psychology

directly previous unicode

hmm, stuck at C

guess i cant get D, it skipped to E

[chilly fulcrum]

annoying

why skip d

[abstract marsh]

?

[sonic heart]

i just used quotes

[sand coral]

Ideographic

[abstract marsh]

i see thanks

[chilly fulcrum]

oh, hmm

cant check rn but we should document

[abstract marsh]

The Unicode In Aksara

(lol)

[sonic heart]

easier f980 (now i dont have to get f9c0 for it yaaaay)

[chilly fulcrum]

"easy" be like

[sonic heart]

check f9c0

i do not wanna get it

just for f980

[abstract marsh]

whats simpler method for barrier breaking

i was following ur guide but dont have append u+0020
i guess imma use this XD

[echo wasp]

(i wont stop telling savio to do 7f, just for fun)

[lethal nymph]

can't wait for 7f to be our best delete tool!!

[thin warren]

im more looking forward to the lineage being 8 trillion steps

[lethal nymph]

we can break from tilde to 7f surely

[thin warren]

~ + Next Codepoint

Very easy

[sonic heart]

"hi Seq. |}~" + Next Letter = "hi Seq. |}~[7f]"

[thin warren]

does backspace [8] delete characters if you put it in a string append?

i assume not

[sonic heart]

I know nothing about controls

[lethal nymph]

if the ai gets it

[echo wasp]

let's see!!!

[lethal nymph]

i should add a feature where if x07 appears it plays the bell sound

[thin warren]

oh we dont have it yet?

[echo wasp]

i mean it's alive

[thin warren]

you could make a lot of fun noises with the control characters

[echo wasp]

it's alive, we have a recipe for it but it uses x01 and we dont have a recipe for that

[lethal nymph]

i have x01 quoted !!

[thin warren]

i meant for string.append('[8]')

[lethal nymph]

i would quote other controls too but i'm scared of them suddenly incrementing

[echo wasp]

like 0001 we have no idea why it was alive

[lethal nymph]

or do we even care about that anymore

[thin warren]

idk

still interesting ig

[echo wasp]

should we just get the string.append versions for 01 - 08

[thin warren]

im surprised you all didn't make those already

especially 08

i wouldve done that immediately if i had it

[echo wasp]

I didn't since a certain someone will murder me

[lethal nymph]

i would love the tab character if we manage to increment in quotes

oh shit vertical tab would be so funny

[thin warren]

tallest element challenge

oh wait

[echo wasp]

alright testing rn on mobile :))

all of quoted 01 to 08 are now found

[echo wasp]

then do it

[thin warren]

i didn't add 0001 in

i dont have any from 1-8

[lethal nymph]

oh shit getting tab will break my stuff that use tsv

[echo wasp]

very simply add it on an alternate account

[thin warren]

infinite craft smurf account 💀

[lethal nymph]

incredible

[echo wasp]

i just hope that someone won't kill me for doing shit with them

[thin warren]

who is the someone

[sonic heart]

Joe

[thin warren]

who?

[echo wasp]

#1206592567622373446 message

[lethal nymph]

well that was 2 weeks ago, when we don't know if neal would reply

[thin warren]

neal has abandoned us

[chilly fulcrum]

oh right, like in quotes

i mean true

[lethal nymph]

the tweet's view count is the same as last time i checked

[chilly fulcrum]

provided its not banned like newline (well like i think anyway)

we dont have a newline or return anywhere do we

theres "next line"

[lethal nymph]

it's such a niche character i don't think neal would ban it

[echo wasp]

Well we don't again doesn't equate to banned

[chilly fulcrum]

well, see = may not have been banned intentionally

[lethal nymph]

tbh i think neal just treats everything after the last equal sign as the output

[chilly fulcrum]

neals response seemed like he was unsure, despite the fact it would be very difficult to do it unintentionally, but i did think of a plausible mechanism

[chilly fulcrum]

exactly

thus banning it indirectly

[lethal nymph]

if you try to get equal sign in quote but it gives you " then that's a sign

[chilly fulcrum]

well i do have a code fragment that starts with 0;

implying xyz = 0; [rest of code]

see if you have those

[thin warren]

you mean like this?

[chilly fulcrum]

right, exactly

[lethal nymph]

it's just completing [i = 0;

[chilly fulcrum]

thats like, as good as those examples get

i mean yeah fair

so i guess you could always offer that counter argument

[abstract marsh]

... i guess it failed

[echo wasp]

it doesnt work like that for mr. usually

try doing seq its more effectivde

[abstract marsh]

aight

[chilly fulcrum]

(my experience: it just doesnt work full stop)

[abstract marsh]

welp... i guess i'll grind another seq converter tool

[abstract marsh]

yeah, im just experimenting, as well as increasing tools in my save file

lmao

[sand coral]

Replace Dr. With Seq. works most of the time

[echo wasp]

that's cuz blindly copying isn't gonna work, you need to be a lil creative

[abstract marsh]

alright i got that
now i need to find Replace Mr. With Dr.

[echo wasp]

prepend Dr. works well in doing that usually

[chilly fulcrum]

well yeah, thats kinda the problem, i cant really figure out how to do it

ideas?

it skips d

[weak spindle]

what if you combine C and E?

[chilly fulcrum]

doesnt work, im only here cause ive tried all i can think

it also stops at g

[candid trellis]

"next Alphabet"?

[thin warren]

did you try making "unicode Cyrillic Extended D"

[chilly fulcrum]

no, i dont want to suffer through that

oh hang on

i already have most of the route

it might be feasible

now to unquote this..

i got d, but H is proving way harder

💀

[thin warren]

do you have k as well?

do unicode cyrillic extended k + unicode cyrillic extended o

[chilly fulcrum]

makes extended KO

[thin warren]

rip

[echo wasp]

so confirming: do you want all of string.append('01 - 08') to be made

[thin warren]

i just wanted to know if string.append('08') deleted the last character

[echo wasp]

alright

uh what is going on?

so many results for x01

theyre all the same what

[chilly fulcrum]

is that more elements?

close tab and reopen

see if it comes up again

like another one

[echo wasp]

its still there

[chilly fulcrum]

yeah but is there now more of them

[thin warren]

lol

[echo wasp]

????

[echo wasp]

same amt

[chilly fulcrum]

time to hit inspect then

[echo wasp]

what do i look for

[candid trellis]

I'm betting killerbrowser money on different amounts of x01

[thin warren]

so not a lot

[chilly fulcrum]

you look for the modal

to see what the text is

[echo wasp]

uh ykw imma just delete them

[chilly fulcrum]

dont you want to know what they are

[echo wasp]

not rly

but do u think it was caused by more elements or smth?

[echo wasp]

go do your testing

[thin warren]

bro i dont have 8

you test it

you already have it

[echo wasp]

not very useful

i accidentally selected them

[thin warren]

rip

[echo wasp]

i just want x07 to play the bell sound

uh

where would i even put that in the string sheet

[thin warren]

i mean its technically not a higher unicode so...

[echo wasp]

so whewre

[thin warren]

idk

just change it to other unicode and put it in

[echo wasp]

why not just put it into the main part

"lower unicodes"

[thin warren]

for all 3 people that want it lol

how many people even have 8?

like 5 people?

[echo wasp]

for that number to increase we need to find 0001

[thin warren]

(very simple)

[candid trellis]

glowy is gonna post 0001

wait for iiiittt

[echo wasp]

omg!!!!

[candid trellis]

oh glowy made a mistake in the lineage "brb"

GET OUT

[echo wasp]

just gotta wait 2 hours

[candid trellis]

Never speak again

[thin warren]

ommgggggg brenttt stawwpppppp

[candid trellis]

https://tenor.com/view/goofy-trial-crazy-evil-ill-fucking-do-it-again-gif-17111514

[echo wasp]

then do it

[chilly fulcrum]

Did we put in Brent’s finds

I didn’t check

I forgot

[sand coral]

I did

[abstract marsh]

wtf

[candid trellis]

https://tenor.com/view/honest-word-its-honest-work-it-aint-much-it-aint-much-but-its-honest-work-gif-13763573

[lethal nymph]

you see it uses 01 as an internal separator for your elements!

so getting 01 breaks it

[chilly fulcrum]

escape them then

can’t use split anymore but oh well

[echo wasp]

wait fr

the ! makes it look sarcastic

[chilly fulcrum]

or you maybe could, hmm although how would that work you’d need to come up with some post processing escape sequence

[lethal nymph]

would it be safer to switch to one of the supplementary PUA

i mean we don't have anything remotely close to those yet

[tepid blaze]

i didn't expect it to give me F761 but i take it ig

[echo wasp]

oh yea keep forgetting to run the script

[chilly fulcrum]

?

[echo wasp]

?

[chilly fulcrum]

bruh

lol

what script, and why

[abstract marsh]

mb, i pasted too much, that one didnt exist in my save (10CA3)

[chilly fulcrum]

hmm, can we try make Unused [unicode/block/name/thingy] character[s]

im trying but i cant since it must not like Unused

it just makes Nothing every time

[abstract marsh]

i cant even craft them, tried several entries already with alot of tools

yeah i blundered and forgot about the Mr.

🤣 im not expecting Genshin Impact to appear in search

[chilly fulcrum]

officially stuck now

every append made Nothing

[heady escarp]

what did u combine with what?

[chilly fulcrum]

well, like, anything anyone would try i would have thought

tried to build it up a variety of ways

including hi mr, "unused ", etc etc

and eventually ran into dead ends on all of them

im kinda close now but im at a really dumb dead end

[echo wasp]

holy

[chilly fulcrum]

obj

what even are those

how deep are you rn

[echo wasp]

les go quoted

[chilly fulcrum]

ok i need to really learn how the heck to make string.remove() and string.replaces

severe hindrance not being able

[echo wasp]

huh?

I didn't use any

[chilly fulcrum]

yeah i know but i think i need

for my stuff im trying

but the lineages from the controls with making appends and removes looks impossible every time

too deep, too branched, etc

[echo wasp]

honestly not as deep as you would think

[chilly fulcrum]

as a result the only string.removes i have are those i got from following control lineages

[echo wasp]

wdym it's almost always the same pattern with a slight variation
ig you haven't caught onto it yet

[abstract marsh]

uhhh should i ?

[chilly fulcrum]

well, kind of

its the same pattern but theres millions of possible variation

and its too deep and branched each time

i cant pick any rhyme or reason

i can see what the general procedure is

but i cannot replicate it

it just wont work, i guess i am not trying enough options or the right ones, or just dont have enough tools

like the route to go to the variants of append(') and append(") get me every time

how on earth alfo went so incredibly deep with getting backticks as quotes in pads and even removing any quotes altogther i will never know

meanwhile i cant even make remove("")

there are parts of the pattern i think i could do

but i dont have the ingredients for that section of the process, because i havent got there yet

[tepid blaze]

hmm interesting

[chilly fulcrum]

unhashing has become really hard all of a sudden wtf

[abstract marsh]

alright i'll pick random codeblock on cjk and see if i can continue the unicode

[chilly fulcrum]

or rather un hyphenating is hard

[heady escarp]

what are u trying to make

[chilly fulcrum]

singular version

[heady escarp]

are u trying to make Unused Kana Character

[chilly fulcrum]

indeed

[tepid blaze]

why tf does the ai soemhow see '' as a like 50% of the time 💀

[heady escarp]

i can try it later today if i remember to

[chilly fulcrum]

not even string.replaces is working, but then again i only have one replace with - in it

[heady escarp]

what have u tried

[chilly fulcrum]

like, everything

[heady escarp]

have u tried 01

and abcd

hmm honestly i dont even use many different strats it is mostly just 01 and abcd

but they work most of the time lol

[chilly fulcrum]

well see im so close thats the issue

im not gonna go restart from scratch and suffer

id rather use what i already have thats 99.99% there

[heady escarp]

u already have Unused Kana Characters in that screenshot

lol

[chilly fulcrum]

i know that

which is why im so pissed i cant get what im after

[heady escarp]

are there any other stuff ur going for?

like names of unicode blocks, etc

[chilly fulcrum]

well, i planned to

but this is getting in the way

if they are all gonna be this bad i wont

[heady escarp]

what were u planning to make

i can try later today

[lethal nymph]

for some reasons this renders as katakana ji for me

[chilly fulcrum]

id rather guidance then someone get it for me

i dont often like saying what im going for because someone will just go get it without saying a word

kinda like whoever got U+0001 but obviously not that extreme

[heady escarp]

i mean if i got something i can show u my lineage

and i could also list u all if the things i trie

tried*

[chilly fulcrum]

still not ideal

idk about you but i wouldnt start over here, so im just after advice of what you gyus do when so close but it wont un hash or whatever

[heady escarp]

even if someone else gets something, u can still try to find different strategies to get it

[chilly fulcrum]

not the same

[heady escarp]

huh

well u have Unused Kana Cha

[chilly fulcrum]

indeed

[heady escarp]

that reminds me of when i trie to get either Remove First 2 Characters or Delete First 2 Characters

and nothing i tried worked, and i ended up just giving up

but i did get Remove First 2 Cha or Delete First 2 Cha

i wonder if this is a coincidence or if the word Character is just really difficult to combine or something

[chilly fulcrum]

i find most words hard to combine, some words can work but its been a while since ive been able to add entire words

[heady escarp]

jesus u even have Unusued-kana-character

i mean since its so close, maybe it works almost the same as Unused Kana Character would

[chilly fulcrum]

i have "Unused Kana Character" and "unused kana character" also

[heady escarp]

in quotes?

are they dead