when i middle click on it it doesnt duplicate
#Unicode
heady escarp
graceful marsh
Oh huh
echo wasp
same (was sam originally)
echo wasp
Samsquare
heady escarp
and why does the empty element visually lose lots of vertical size?
graceful marsh
I believe you also deleted the textbox itself
heady escarp
I believe you also deleted the textbox itself
i probably did
echo wasp
did you just delete the textbox
lethal nymph
i'm not a genius but i think text has width and height..
heady escarp
how to i make the text empty without deleting the text ?
lethal nymph
remove the paddings
heady escarp
well i got an element where i deleted the text but the vertical size stayed
graceful marsh
Because the emoji is there
lethal nymph
i'm not a genius but i think emoji is the same as text..
heady escarp
well i got an element where i deleted the text but the vertical size stayed
the textbox says whitespace
heady escarp
well i got an element where i deleted the text but the vertical size stayed
oh when i tried deleting the emoji it also reduced the vertical size again
echo wasp
sam is indeed not a genius
heady escarp
how do i make it keep its vertical size
lethal nymph
not sure why but this was funny
echo wasp
how do i make it keep its vertical size
just type in a zerowidth char
graceful marsh
I mean of course Macron is white
heady escarp
i pasted in an invisible character, now it kept its vertical length
lethal nymph
it's a zero-width character
chilly fulcrum
in addition to the ?
lethal nymph
not a zero-height characte
echo wasp
i pasted in an invisible character, now it kept its vertical length
type in null :))
heady escarp
type in null :))
idk how
graceful marsh
I want a zero height character
lethal nymph
in addition to the ?
oh i mean this
heady escarp
thats u+0001 not u+0000
echo wasp
whoop
graceful marsh
Whoop
echo wasp
�
graceful marsh
That's the sound of the police
abstract marsh
ok
heady escarp
but anyways this is the length of an element that doesnt have an emoji, and has an invisible character in its text
is an element with this length possible to get in actual IC
trim pond
awwm?
heady escarp
like can u have invisible characters as emoji or something
graceful marsh
Yeah Nata showed an example like 5 minutes ago
echo wasp
so did it wotk
graceful marsh
2 even
echo wasp
I have a few with zerowidth emojis also
graceful marsh
Well 3 now
lethal nymph
i actually posted the same thing 3 times
abstract marsh
possible to do but uncertain?
graceful marsh
Actually
echo wasp
AWWM time!
heady escarp
but anyways this is the length of an element that doesnt have an emoji, and has ...
hmm i got the same element but instead of completely erasing the emoji i pasted invisible character into emoji slot, and this new element is the exact same dimensions as this
graceful marsh
Any way to check elements where emoji = element?
heady escarp
which means invisible characters in emoji slot take up as much as space as no emoji at all
echo wasp
cuz it's a zerowidth char
lethal nymph
Any way to check elements where emoji = element?
i did this like some time ago
echo wasp
also its not always the case for invisible chars
graceful marsh
Did you?
echo wasp
also its not always the case for invisible chars
for example hangul filler
heady escarp
but anyways this is the length of an element that doesnt have an emoji, and has ...
so theoretically, if we had an invisible character both in text box and emoji slots, it would have these dimensions, and its not possible to have a shorter emoji
heady escarp
also its not always the case for invisible chars
oh
lethal nymph
chilly fulcrum
that has width of a few hundred
echo wasp
wait what
chilly fulcrum
Not 29
heady escarp
oh i mean this
is the emoji an invisible character here?
echo wasp
what does that mean
trim pond
what about elements with 2 emojis both as emoji and text
graceful marsh
'twould be caught too no?
chilly fulcrum
presumably some combo of zero widths will generate a zero width emoji as well
heady escarp
wait whats the difference between an invisible character and a zero width character
graceful marsh
Invisible characters can still have width
heady escarp
ok so what we need is not invisible characters, but zero width characters to be more specific
lethal nymph
you've only figured that out now?
graceful marsh
Yay you're all caught up
chilly fulcrum
oh okay, i don’t actually know what they define as invisible but I would have thought space is visible because it has width
heady escarp
oh i mean this
is that a zero width character in the emoji slot?
chilly fulcrum
but I guess that doesn’t count
lethal nymph
yea i said it's a zero width space
heady escarp
ok so now we need an element that has not only zero width character in emoji slot, but also in text box
chilly fulcrum
I only have “zero width joiner”
heady escarp
that way we will have the shortest possible element
how many zero width characters are there
echo wasp
quite a few
chilly fulcrum
many
heady escarp
also are there any fonts that render zero width characters in a way that lets u see them
echo wasp
a couple hundred
chilly fulcrum
a couple hundred
VS 256 💀
heady escarp
vs is variation selector?
chilly fulcrum
Yes
heady escarp
are they zero width characters
echo wasp
some of them are in emojis
chilly fulcrum
Vs 256 highest assigned non private use character
heady escarp
what do the variation selectors do
chilly fulcrum
tags
graceful marsh
ZWS, ZWJ, ZWNBSP, VS1-256
chilly fulcrum
those are tags and tags are visible I think when not preceded
heady escarp
is this tag chars or variation selectors I forgot
that is the flag of scotland
echo wasp
that is the flag of scotland
put it in a unicode analyser
graceful marsh
Yeah tags aren't invisible
chilly fulcrum
flag of Scotland is impossible in IC
echo wasp
yea too many tokens lol
graceful marsh
I wonder if it's possible in the emoji though
heady escarp
put it in a unicode analyser
waving black flag, and 6 other tag characters
is there a token limit for emoji slot
echo wasp
flag of Scotland is impossible in IC
hence the Scottish flag! (totally possible)
chilly fulcrum
is there a token limit for emoji slot
We don’t know what ai it uses to begin with
so we really can’t answer that
heady escarp
why is the scotland emoji 30 tokens wtf
echo wasp
6 tags
chilly fulcrum
tags
heady escarp
what do tags do
heady escarp
We don’t know what ai it uses to begin with
is emoji ai not llama 2?
chilly fulcrum
they’re like basically useless except for some flags
chilly fulcrum
is emoji ai not llama 2?
We don’t know
heady escarp
are all flags made up of some exxxx tags
echo wasp
other than that they seem quite useless
echo wasp
are all flags made up of some exxxx tags
no
heady escarp
cuz u can get flags in emoji slot right?
echo wasp
most flags consist of regional indicators
heady escarp
they annoy us in IC since we can't get any exxxx
what if u can get them in emoji slot even if thats useless
chilly fulcrum
I mean same as you can get flags as text
heady escarp
do we know what the most tokens in an emoji slot is
chilly fulcrum
We can’t answer that
heady escarp
is the limit for that also 20
chilly fulcrum
we don’t know what ai it is
chilly fulcrum
also 20 tokens is like custom limit set by Neal iirc
echo wasp
let's make him set it to 200 tokens
graceful marsh
Because Llama isn't explicitly built for emoji making
heady escarp
are all flags made of multiple unicode characters
chilly fulcrum
are all flags made of multiple unicode characters
no
graceful marsh
It's better to outsource the emoji to a proper service
chilly fulcrum
for example waving black flag
echo wasp
country flags all are tho
graceful marsh
And pride
heady escarp
scotland emoji in an unicode analyze website is waving black flag and a bunch of tags
are all country flags made of waving black flag + tags?
chilly fulcrum
no
echo wasp
no
chilly fulcrum
Only subdivisions
echo wasp
already answered it just now lol :/
chilly fulcrum
US TX for example for Texas flag, although I don’t think that’s official
heady escarp
what if the ai the emoji slot uses also has a token cut off, and it doesnt build the full scotland flag cuz it reaches that token limit
cuz scotland flag starts with waving black flag
chilly fulcrum
what if the ai the emoji slot uses also has a token cut off, and it doesnt build...
you’d see the tags
echo wasp
the tags will become visible
heady escarp
you’d see the tags
oh so theyre not in the emoji slot
graceful marsh
No they are
chilly fulcrum
Probably not
echo wasp
oh so theyre not in the emoji slot
you can check
graceful marsh
Wait what does that question mean
echo wasp
unless the code was faulty
chilly fulcrum
I want to make scripts for running in console but I haven’t a clue on what the correct context is
heady escarp
but anyways this is the length of an element that doesnt have an emoji, and has ...
does anyone have elements with this width
or just elements with zero width character both in text and emoji slots
graceful marsh
I don't think he means in that sense
heady escarp
well but an emoji takes up a lot of width
i want both text and emoji slots to be ONLY zero width characters
chilly fulcrum
a list is kinda problematic since fonts render different but you can stick to official zero widths and run a script and that should work
graceful marsh
Well IS is out, SHY is out, ZWS and ZWNBSP are impossible, and I don't think the VSs will have VS as the emoji
echo wasp
I know I have some exxxx in my emoji slots
im gonna run it again to make sure
heady escarp
Well IS is out, SHY is out, ZWS and ZWNBSP are impossible, and I don't think the...
why are IS and SHY out
chilly fulcrum
Well IS is out, SHY is out, ZWS and ZWNBSP are impossible, and I don't think the...
We have zero width space
graceful marsh
Oh we do?
heady escarp
also what is IS? i know SHY is soft hyphen
chilly fulcrum
it’s not a whitespace
echo wasp
zws isnt trimmed
graceful marsh
Oh whoops
chilly fulcrum
probably because there’s no actual space
graceful marsh
Do two different ZWs next to each other render correctly in browser?
heady escarp
does anyone know how i can know what my game vertical size is
chilly fulcrum
press f11 and then it’s your monitor resolution
heady escarp
how do u know that
chilly fulcrum
because that’s what f11 does
heady escarp
for example, my monitor length is 1440 but the firefox f12 thing says the game is 1608 long
1608 is more than 1440
echo wasp
chilly fulcrum
I’d assume that’s off screen padding
echo wasp
dont question the file name
heady escarp
I’d assume that’s off screen padding
idk what that means
trim pond
can we not get the flag emoji with the tags, but like cut off? we could still get some tags this way
heady escarp
i will use this character publically (it wont be private use anymore 😎
chilly fulcrum
can we not get the flag emoji with the tags, but like cut off? we could still ge...
Already tried but long ago
you can try again if you want
heady escarp
i forgot to close the parenthesis, so im only closing it here)
lmao my parentheses contain rubiksmath
lets go
time to sell all ur rubiks cubes to make 9999 dollars
chilly fulcrum
i will use this character publically (it wont be private use anymore 😎
Apple logo moment
heady escarp
bro its literally a bitten apple (
graceful marsh
Did you read about the whole Unicode Remote Control Buttons thing
graceful marsh
Interesting
heady escarp
(
echo wasp
only these two tho
chilly fulcrum
Only gb?
heady escarp
you wont believe it
how many llama tokens is that, what if emoji slot also uses llama ai
echo wasp
less than 15
heady escarp
maybe the token count is reduced for emojis
chilly fulcrum
should be 5 + 4 + 4 + 4
echo wasp
why 3 4s
heady escarp
(
chilly fulcrum
oh my bad
heady escarp
)
chilly fulcrum
why is there a quotation mark
heady escarp
?? u never started the parentheses asd
graceful marsh
He'll edit his first message to add one
echo wasp
(
echo wasp
)
heady escarp
gg
graceful marsh
) Just like I just did
heady escarp
laurasia u didnt send starting parenthesis
graceful marsh
He'll edit his first message to add one
.
chilly fulcrum
?
graceful marsh
I've enclosed about the last 6 months in my parenthesis
Therefore I am now in control
heady escarp
hey laurasia, do u have the first message in AWWO? cuz thats ur thread
echo wasp
guys asd caught the red new line
?
heady escarp
graceful marsh
I love desync
echo wasp
weird
heady escarp
hey laurasia, do u have the first message in AWWO? cuz thats ur thread
u can edit the first AWWO message to start with left parenthesis
echo wasp
amaising
heady escarp
and send a message rn with right parenthesis
and u will kidnap the whole AWWO thread
graceful marsh
Literally just did that except here
heady escarp
I've enclosed about the last 6 months in my parenthesis
which message did u edit left parenthesis in?
graceful marsh
Nuh uh not telling
echo wasp
bud closed urself
chilly fulcrum
tiem to get 0097
Idk both the mojibaked emoji faces and animals stopped at 96 and 98
echo wasp
bud u closed urself
chilly fulcrum
Nuh uh not telling
don’t actually know how to get to first message quickly but sometimes my discord randomly scrolls there
graceful marsh
don’t actually know how to get to first message quickly but sometimes my discord...
I just Discord search the text of the description message
echo wasp
)
graceful marsh
Oh I'm not that easy
echo wasp
very nice message
graceful marsh
Although technically my first message in Unicode thread is
#archive-unicode message
chilly fulcrum
damn do I have to give up sheet ownership to Laurasia now I’ve been captured? Or does owner have hacks to escape
although Laurasia permissions is basically owner anyway
heady escarp
guys we dont know if laurasia is lying
if we dont know which message has opening parentheses, we cant even know if she actually captured this thread
graceful marsh
Clever clog!
Although for the record I did actually edit a message
heady escarp
so we can assume shes a liar
graceful marsh
I follow through on my jokes
echo wasp
One day you Will Not Wake Up in IC when
heady escarp
heady escarp
I follow through on my jokes
well i cant know that
until i find the messge for myself
hold on i have an idea
(
Laurasia's Unicode thread capture
)
i have captured your capture laurasia
echo wasp
anyone wanna try getting Mr. ’ or Mr.
heady escarp
the spreadsheet is MINE
echo wasp
both of them are needed for a string with 0097
chilly fulcrum
I have a string with 9d but it’s dead
heady escarp
[
echo wasp
i lost the recipes cuz mobile
heady escarp
]
echo wasp
[
heady escarp
what
heady escarp
fuck you
echo wasp
yeah it was random spam
heady escarp
{
echo wasp
}
graceful marsh
Dammit ASD should've put some code in there to delete Obby
heady escarp
guys i wonder which bracket is the best
echo wasp
[
heady escarp
who the fuck is obby
echo wasp
]
heady escarp
(
echo wasp
))
heady escarp
)
graceful marsh
Oh god syntax error
heady escarp
))
echo wasp
bro
heady escarp
i contained a capture inside a capture
echo wasp
[
heady escarp
:
echo wasp
]
echo wasp
and just like that obby gets captured again
heady escarp
WE CANT SEND THEM IN MESSAGES ANYMORE\
graceful marsh
Guys you just syntax errored
Now you can't run anymore
heady escarp
whats an syntax error
chilly fulcrum
sudo rm -rf /dev/obby
heady escarp
theres no errors here wtf
candid trellis
and just like that obby gets captured again
Why are we playing Pokémon
heady escarp
([{
echo wasp
}])
heady escarp
}])
echo wasp
closed.
heady escarp
Nuh uh you just got deleted
what does that code do
echo wasp
i lost the recipes cuz mobile
so uh... anyone wanna try? 💀
chilly fulcrum
deletes you
heady escarp
no i am obby i am not null
echo wasp
or so you think
trim pond
`"'<{[(
chilly fulcrum
delete null 💀
trim pond
)]}>'"`
echo wasp
lmao
graceful marsh
Okay I'm pulling out the Javanese again ꧌
candid trellis
delete null 💀
I just know there's something like dev/null where you can output errors and output (send it to the void)
graceful marsh
꧍
trim pond
(
echo wasp
(
heady escarp
also guys
graceful marsh
Welcome everyone to this week's Unicode shitpost
heady escarp
guys i just caught a fish
echo wasp
)
heady escarp
"
heady escarp
can someone open parentheses now
trim pond
)
candid trellis
omg i caught so much
🤡
heady escarp
🐱
trim pond
hehe
hard oracle
guys i just caught a fish
(and some more)
heady escarp
GUYS CAT EMOJIS ARE BANNED NOW
echo wasp
[
heady escarp
😾
trim pond
]
heady escarp
NOOO
candid trellis
Is it okay to shoot my monitor if a fly landed on it?
heady escarp
someone open parentheses agian
echo wasp
((((((({{{{{{{
heady escarp
Laurasia-Gondwanaland
candid trellis
;
echo wasp
}}}}}}})))))))
heady escarp
WOOOOOOOOOO
echo wasp
Laurasia-Gondwanaland
[
heady escarp
WE KIDNAPPED HER
candid trellis
}}}}}}})))))))
Error: unexpected semicolon on line 2
chilly fulcrum
yeah but I released
echo wasp
sssasa
echo wasp
wait no it was already banned beofre that
heady escarp
braint
heady escarp
borent
echo wasp
/ban @breantbe
candid trellis
Ja 👮
candid trellis
Laurasia is overpowered?!
heady escarp
echo wasp
]
heady escarp
chilly fulcrum
gonna sift through all 40k or whatever messages from Laurasia
trim pond
wtf
chilly fulcrum
💀
heady escarp
heady escarp
echo wasp
heady escarp
graceful marsh
Fun fact, if you put the 3rd letter of every message I've ever sent together, you will find the true name of Bael
candid trellis
Fun fact, if you put the 3rd letter of every message I've ever sent together, yo...
What if you sent an image? or sent a 1-2 letter "word"
echo wasp
heady escarp
graceful marsh
What if you sent an image? or sent a 1-2 letter "word"
Spaces
heady escarp
chilly fulcrum
IndexError
heady escarp
🙀
candid trellis
OutOfBounds
echo wasp
anyone wanna try getting Mr. ’ or Mr.
turns to awwm
chilly fulcrum
Unicode invisible parenthesis
heady escarp
candid trellis
Can you send 9 or 10 (forgot max) images at once and then another image?
echo wasp
~~turns to awwm~~
the second one is Mr. [8e][80]94] + Mr. [8e][80]][99]
chilly fulcrum
Laurasia messages archive
echo wasp
i cant figure out those two
echo wasp
i cant figure out those two
i lied, i just cant figure out 8e 80 99
heady escarp
heady escarp
graceful marsh
You wanna do this somewhere else HW Bush?
heady escarp
trim pond
`“‘"'<[{(（｛［【『「⟨〝
heady escarp
chilly fulcrum
Gah
heady escarp
candid trellis
heady escarp
graceful marsh
Mmm
I think this is the point where I can invoke the Kali clause
echo wasp
we should work on this sheet frfr #1206592567622373446 message
candid trellis
Eat your veggies asd
chilly fulcrum
oh yeah wow that’s a cool sheet
chilly fulcrum
I should try get some
echo wasp
aw
graceful marsh
Can we make a new #1206590762914156584 post
echo wasp
im gonna finish the e000 block of 64 ig
graceful marsh
We gave CJK one
chilly fulcrum
mods can we redact this guy
candid trellis
Can we make a new <#1206590762914156584> post
We need the password.
What do we call this operation?
The operation to get the password*
heady escarp
wha
candid trellis
both
graceful marsh
Anyway I've been meaning to ask
What are the thoughts on putting a link to the Controls and maybe PUA sheet somewhere on the main sheet?
graceful marsh
Wide boye
graceful marsh
Oh come on, with aplomb ASD
@tepid blaze ASD has a question ^
chilly fulcrum
Anyway I've been meaning to ask
What are the thoughts on putting a link to the ...
sure I mean it’s your call, minor enough change
echo wasp
surrogates sheet when
chilly fulcrum
not sure, but I’m sure you will find somewhere
graceful marsh
What if we put the Unassigned sheet back
echo wasp
or maybe all unassigned chars sheet
graceful marsh
Yeah
chilly fulcrum
Resources potentially, or sure yeah I mean the project could be expanded to consider even unassigned, although that’s not something I want to become a focus yet
there’s plenty of assigned characters still to find
echo wasp
anyways im saving this #1206592567622373446 message
graceful marsh
I mean for unassigned I'd be good with burying it
echo wasp
there’s plenty of assigned characters still to find
around a million 🙂
chilly fulcrum
100k
graceful marsh
And we have stats too now
chilly fulcrum
And we have stats too now
what stats? I mean didn’t we always? or oh wait right these stats are better than the old sheet
not just %
also just actual number
chilly fulcrum
oh okay
graceful marsh
Right now it has to be manually updated using Fuezt's DB unfortunately
I'm working on something that will fix that though
chilly fulcrum
could almost have a stats page, I do remember there was an old page for blocks but I never saw it since it was protected
so idk what was going on in there
graceful marsh
Mayhaps
chilly fulcrum
that’s cool how does the fuezt db interaction work? like where are the numbers from
graceful marsh
He just prints a list and I stuff it in a separate sheet
chilly fulcrum
nice can I be in on this too?
graceful marsh
That way ordering can be dealt with there
Sure
But like I said I'm working on a way to automate this without the DB
I think I have a solution but it's gonna take a bit
chilly fulcrum
I see, yeah a count by range I guess? or an apps script could do it too
which would be made maybe easier if there’s some Unicode database it has
but I’m not sure
graceful marsh
The thing is I also want it to sort automatically
Which is... difficult on a sheet shared with other stuff
chilly fulcrum
right yeah that’s harder to do
graceful marsh
So either stats gets it's own page or I do my hacky solution
chilly fulcrum
I’ve done it before though, can’t you just highlight the table but the first cell you highlight contains what you want to sort by?
it worked on excel
or maybe it wasn’t auto tho
graceful marsh
As far as I remember that only sorts once
chilly fulcrum
maybe I had to keep doing manually
I forgot
Yeah hm
apps script then would be my next try
Well
you could make the names be dynamic
graceful marsh
Bleh
They run ass though when it's a live thing
chilly fulcrum
like have it pull from a sorted list (however that works in sheets I’m not sure)
so like the names of the blocks is also a formula
or just mirror a sheet
which has auto sorting
graceful marsh
That's the current solution
I'll pilot a separate sheet at like 1AM tonight if I'm not drunk
Actually I might do it if I'm drunk anyway. Regardless
chilly fulcrum
is it possible to add more than a % as well, like a count too, or even total count with assigned and unassigned? just brainstorming
graceful marsh
Unassigned is hard without them being registered on the sheet
But a count definitely is possible
chilly fulcrum
well, presumably that’s total - assigned
graceful marsh
Yeah but their status can't be updated the same way
chilly fulcrum
just an idea, could be silly but just putting it out there
chilly fulcrum
Yeah but their status can't be updated the same way
Oh why not?
chilly fulcrum
oh, well fair enough, I didn’t mean to count progress with them but yeah sure I get that
graceful marsh
Oh what
chilly fulcrum
don’t worry about that for like a while
slim quest
Almost 66,666 messages!
chilly fulcrum
it will be a while before anything to do with unassigned is considered at least in my opinion
a count to supplement the % is nice because it lets users know the actual amount of work required
some blocks are only 16 chars
others are tens of thousands
graceful marsh
Yeah that's possible
Tell you what if this guy's house has an open computer somewhere I'll see if I can test something out
chilly fulcrum
lol okay I will be going to sleep soon, but remember don’t wait for me to wake up before doing stuff, worst case if you really screw up we just work on it when I get up
I really like this idea though it can significantly improve workflow
very impressed
There’s one slight complication
there’s an area or two with CJK or compatibility or something that may not line up with an actual block
Like a block may be cut in half
I kept as true to original as I could which meant some unusual stuff was done like some stuff that’s arguably cjk is in the “other” section
And vice versa somewhat
graceful marsh
I will base all blocks on official Unicode documentation
chilly fulcrum
right, but like for the checks that count it
since the bounds I presume need to be put in
Some may need to be spread across two ranges
let me know of all the bounds that seem off to you
like “wrong sheet” vibes or cut off
graceful marsh
Well even if you split a block across two sheets it's still not an issue for a basic count
Can just add the two individual ones separately
chilly fulcrum
Yes of course, but I’d personally rather the weirdness be resolved - maybe even one day a “this sheet contains” could be more accurate and even for the other sheet (even tho it just has everything not on the other two)
trim pond
wtf this just randombly gave me U+2f8a5
chilly fulcrum
Happens
not FD interestingly
yeah I’ve had a lot of random 2fxxx
unfortunately it must know that 2fxxx is mostly not assigned
since that’s where it throws us
chilly fulcrum
Well even if you split a block across two sheets it's still not an issue for a b...
Like let’s say endgame “far” future we have the progress listed in the “this sheet contains” section
just one idea
drawback is relegating the start of the actual characters by quite some distance for the “other” sheet
and it’s all separate which may not be ideal either
so the idea you had now is quite good
trim pond
btw does anyone have alive "[cherokee letter]" ? (U+ab70-U+abbf)
echo wasp
btw does anyone have alive "[cherokee letter]" ? (U+ab70-U+abbf)
yes but lowercased
trim pond
i am trying to make the lowercase versions. so I thought I would try incrementing it in quotaion marks. but I don't know how to get in them
trim pond
yes but lowercased
wdym lowercased? I want lowercased
echo wasp
like quoteless
trim pond
oh
trim pond
then nvm
chilly fulcrum
but it requires a bit of luck
trim pond
ok
chilly fulcrum
basically I found a method to get me one character by chance, and then just tried it with the relevant codepoints and indeed it worked apart from two white holes
was consistent except for those two
trim pond
graceful marsh
This is incredibly funny in a way I cannot articulate
untold crystal
2fc2, 2fc4-2fc6, 2fc9, 2fd0-2fd5
sand coral
5AC2
untold crystal
This is weird
candid trellis
are the fffd's in the emote?
sand coral
2102D
untold crystal
are the fffd's in the emote?
not in the emote. In the text
untold crystal
2fc1, 2fc3 Only 2fc0 missing to fully complete the KANGXI RADICALS
lethal nymph
i can't believe i lost to that
graceful marsh
Okay now you're gonna have to explain yourself Samantha
Because I don't understand
echo wasp
Sam who did you lose to
graceful marsh
Like look even my last loss was at least vaguely understandable
But here? How?
The words "fully complete"?
graceful marsh
I didn't until you pointed it out
heady escarp
what are u guys talking about
graceful marsh
You know, you don't need to play that card again
Now me and Samantha will work through our differences like adults so just sit back and relax
heady escarp
how do u go from natasquare to samantha
is it cuz natasquare contains the letter S
thats like average poseidon explanation
"guys this isnt random at all cuz one of the elements actually contained the letter P"
tepid blaze
Oh come on, with aplomb ASD
<@824352942156283954> ASD has a question ^
oh yeah, i was sleeping, gonna fix that
now it should be fixed, he should be able to put comment
graceful marsh
Wait did you just wake up
tepid blaze
i did wake up 2h ago
left briar
its on the sheet
idk which sheet
left briar
uh
i did a ctrl+f search and it wasnt there
ok i found it
but i think its only showing the recipe for the character itself
i want the u+ code
i wanna get U+1f3b5
i already have the character
tepid blaze
i wanna get `U+1f3b5`
U+1f3b5
left briar
how do i get "..u-"
tepid blaze
how do i get `"..u-"`
here is a optimised lineage from AWWO #1226511876733669436 message
left briar
aight thanks
graceful marsh
Where'd you get this idea from?
untold crystal
Next Letter Unicode
untold crystal
Where'd you get this idea from?
from my head. not GPT
just thought what I could try to restart a unicode block...
chilly fulcrum
Did I miss anything
sage wren
yeah the world ended
untold crystal
Maybe Start Of Unicode Block then?
If you want to test it. Start Of Unicode Block
chilly fulcrum
Oh we got a0? Trying to read through awwm but it’s a bit too much
For mobile anyway
in quotes of course
chilly fulcrum
So what’s the main thing about it like I’m scrolling up and up but where’s the entry
thin warren
trim pond
So what’s the main thing about it like I’m scrolling up and up but where’s the e...
if you follow lineage for String.append('[a0]') in string.append sheet, all is linked
like the recipes for "[a0]" and '[a0]' too
but they are like 100 messages in the past so even then I don't think it is hard to find them
glad roost
String.replace('[a0]') + ) = '[a0]' + PTIQM = "[a0]"
trim pond
how to actually make the a0 to begin
#1206592567622373446 message
chilly fulcrum
cool
chilly fulcrum
not sure how one checks that, it doesnt let you normally right?
never mind
im silli
sonic heart
huh
sonic heart
thats new lol (for me at least)
tepid blaze
was added probably not long after this: #1206592567622373446 message
sonic heart
adlam 81% yeahhh
sonic heart
0ba9
chilly fulcrum
small problem, how to get soyombo? i mean its not hard i just appended to soy but kinda goofy
sage wren
small problem, how to get soyombo? i mean its not hard i just appended to soy bu...
#recipe-talk message
chilly fulcrum
damn recipe 2 weeks after game came out and its not in browser D:
sonic heart
lol
sage wren
damn recipe 2 weeks after game came out and its not in browser D:
its probably in the helper bot, but browser misses a lot of recipes & elements that were sent here, even if they're really early made
chilly fulcrum
helper bot die speedrun
well, its dead
i guess its not a speedrun
its already dead
tepid blaze
yeah
chilly fulcrum
may i see how you did the data with the unicode blocks? like what defines them and stuff - i have some ideas to try
and to ensure consistency
tepid blaze
may i see how you did the data with the unicode blocks? like what defines them a...
in my bot/the program i used to make the stats? as easy as that
chilly fulcrum
ah and thats in the code for the server? cool
oh, is it updated? cause wheres cjk extensions I and H
tepid blaze
my bad was in the wrong folder, that the old version
chilly fulcrum
ah
tepid blaze
this time should be the good one
chilly fulcrum
looks good
only thing is, what you have there looks like it uses the last character as the end of the range or something
e.g.
ends in reality at 31ef
31e3 according to that doc
the last char =/= range end (in this case there is a unicode 15.1 addition that was added at 31ef but even if it wasnt, its not the real end of the block)
and the reason is of course in case more get assigned
you dont want checks to fail
which is why they do it they way they do it, so that new assignments either make a totally new block or just use unfilled space in existing blocks
tepid blaze
only thing is, what you have there looks like it uses the last character as the ...
well if im not wrong i just took it here: https://www.unicode.org/Public/UCD/latest/ucd/Blocks.txt
chilly fulcrum
31C0..31EF; CJK Strokes
=/= whats in the doc
doc says c0-e3
in general all ranges and at F
so thats why seeing the 3 caught me out
hmm
seems like it may have been taken somewhere else or it compared to sheet? idk
hard oracle
yeah and meanwhile the 77,777th message got 🍀 reaction
chilly fulcrum
good thing is we can at least use the list laurasia put to try and focus efforts more...
although like, they arent found for a reason
and its cause its hard
chilly fulcrum
ill put in my kangxi finds tho
oh lol mathematical operators unicode.. didnt know that worked too
anyway i guess i only have 2fc3 then
Cjk Ideographs Extension P + U+2d03 = ⿃
Updated script for checking chars not in sheet - note the name change to undoc_chars_auto.py - also note you may need to pip install requests
abstract marsh
im still using the old version ( from june or may i think ) 🗿
chilly fulcrum
try the new one
its much better
oh yeah you may need to pip install requests
cause i dont think that comes with it
abstract marsh
oh it directly take data from the sheet online
tepid blaze
technically now i also use this one in it (since i try to get PUA's): ```python
{
"url": "https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WqRD3GT5GG-6z0mvu_afGjEH6C8WsYlaRBhOkzmW1WQ/export?format=csv&id=1WqRD3GT5GG-6z0mvu_afGjEH6C8WsYlaRBhOkzmW1WQ&gid=0",
"filename": "IC Unicode Database Private Use Area - Private Use Area.csv"
}
yeah just said it so the download link for pua's sheet is somewhere if someone might ever get interested
chilly fulcrum
also yeah i looked at your doc more closely
it looks like its unicode 15.0
not 15.1
tepid blaze
;-;
chilly fulcrum
and wherever it took from it truncated ranges which isnt ideal
it would actually still be right if it didnt truncate
oh
never mind
i
was looking at the old one
im an idiot
its actually totally right
tepid blaze
this time should be the good one
so a total of 3 hour of confusion (i wasn't sure on if it was me that wasn't understanding or if somehow i did a actual error somewhere in my thing 💀)
chilly fulcrum
sorry!!! can i do anything to make it up to you
was it stressful? i am so sorry
gr who made mayan numerals unicode and how
tepid blaze
was it stressful? i am so sorry
nah its okay
chilly fulcrum
realising i never got just make it lowercase 💀
hmm i wonder what i was going for here 🤔
(totally not lance stroll)
sage wren
oh to be clueless to the fact adding word 1 + word 2 will never = word 1 word 2
chilly fulcrum
hmm, well i had to try of course, because it sometimes does in fact work
rare
but it can happen
i love discord search ; - ;
tepid blaze
Invalid Recipe For U+0BA9 : (ன)
"hi Mr. " + Remove The Mr. = "i"
chilly fulcrum
💀
sand coral
should be fixed
tepid blaze
Invalid Recipe For U+0BA9 : (ன)
"hi Mr. " + Remove The Mr. = "i"
i think i have something to fix, idk if its a problem of encoding when printing to my file or something💀
chilly fulcrum
pon
chilly fulcrum
im trying to work out what code page that is
sand coral
рой means swarm in russian
chilly fulcrum
that has the n at 00a9
abstract marsh
as expected, i got none unicode undocumented, havent grinding much lately
tepid blaze
i wonder is there any other tools than "hi seq" , directly next Unicode / next codepoint that really good nowedays? (cause it has been a long time i haven't really been obtaining unicode actually in game instead of using programs, so i wonder if i did already get up to date in term of tech or if i missed some)
abstract marsh
idk either, im too behind in term of tech ( probs 2-3 month behind )
just not bothered enough to get new one
echo wasp
dont forget about ntsq's CJK bruteforced unicodes
untold crystal
u+4000. Continue the chain it if you want. #1206592567622373446 message Start Of Unicode Block here
trim pond
wow, only one kangxi radical is missing.
sand coral
40C0
echo wasp
i swaer
trim pond
lol, as It turns out, the unicode character ! is even thinner
even though it is not invisible
echo wasp
4280
trim pond
Cjk Ideographs Extension 1a - 1z, 2a - 2z, 3a - 3z
"hi Cjk Ideographs Extension" #1206592567622373446 message
echo wasp
is this still our only 97 string so far btw
just that we cant replicate it sicne we dk the recipes
echo wasp
u+4000. Continue the chain it if you want. https://discord.com/channels/12035270...
ok this could literally just complete all of 4xxx (till 4e00)
its like the easiest one to increment, very cooperative
graceful marsh
The mental image of a barrier break is a very pleasing one
Specialised pneumatic hammer
sand coral
4100
sand coral
4140
chilly fulcrum
wow, only one kangxi radical is missing.
oh? there was 2 before
chilly fulcrum
1d080-1d0bf
lol what are these codepoints?
tepid blaze
little update on that
night dragon
𓏎
to haunt your nightmares!!! legs on a jar(tm)
chilly fulcrum
extension 1, cool
unfortunately only copyright extension is browser D:
ahh wait cjk ideograph extension
i havent got yet
how do i get those - might be worth listing them on the tools directory
graceful marsh
#1206592567622373446 message
echo wasp
#1206592567622373446 message
10secs
chilly fulcrum
?
candid trellis
why*
chilly fulcrum
wrong link? or am i crazy
graceful marsh
Okay what do we call the floors of a lineage
chilly fulcrum
layer is fine
candid trellis
Okay what do we call the floors of a lineage
what do we call "the floors" of a lineage 🗿
you literally just named it while asking for it
graceful marsh
And the name is wrong :]
echo wasp
the floors are very clearly the end product
echo wasp
bro couldnt even fix my typo correctly
It's what, not why
graceful marsh
No the end product is U+4007
candid trellis
both can by applied
graceful marsh
*bees
graceful marsh
BrentBEES
chilly fulcrum
thank you to whoever did this recipe like 6 months ago for saving me a minute or two of pain
graceful marsh
You should be a bee
candid trellis
I am already beeautiful
graceful marsh
ASD can you weigh in on the above statement
echo wasp
I am already beeautiful
beeeeeeeeeeautiful
echo wasp
He had to go.
2*
chilly fulcrum
also what is this nonsense.. i jsut wanted Extension 1
candid trellis
beeeeeeeeeeautiful
bro tries to ping me twice because he knows he cant react to my messages
echo wasp
❓️
graceful marsh
There you go
candid trellis
There you go
Who's gonna be on your team?
echo wasp
Who's gonna be on your team?
you
graceful marsh
Buddy
echo wasp
nciejc yireuty snoov
chilly fulcrum
also what is this nonsense.. i jsut wanted Extension 1
damn it really likes just adding .txt
i have hi.txt.txt.txt
untold crystal
101d0 (If it's ok to you to increment unassigned chars)
chilly fulcrum
101d0 (If it's ok to you to increment unassigned chars)
its allowed as long as documented, laurasia decided we should remove the missing chars sheet so we cleaned everything up and its gone now
got em
1f880
hahaha
chilly fulcrum
im making lineage but small problem, its dreadful because it has cjk ideograph exension a in it (yeah ok i admit i have something against the full lineage for that)
random yi syllabary recipe out of nowhere
very nice
random 1eee8
unassigned
anyway its from U+18f80
i had tried that strat before
but it avoided 1f8xx we didnt have yet
but not this time i guess
if u want have a go yourself and try pull it from there
maybe youll get a better way
you can likely skip most of this, especially if you have a lot (probably do)
best i have rn
realised i wnt one step too far on the bottom right
sand coral
4180
chilly fulcrum
bit more complete 1f880, meh im sure it can be improved a lot, ive tried a bit but couldnt.
wow its been so long since ive used input tool... but finally i got something
lol most of these arent even assigned but all good i guess
sand coral
it's fine
sage wren
when you take a seat at the Unicode convention and all the chairs are Next Codepoints
abstract marsh
goodluck with Mongolian
for me it kept doing nope for quite alot...
U+1880 iirc
sage wren
Armenian Beef Script
sand coral
41C0
trim pond
Meetei Unicode, Unicode Meetei, Mayek Unicode, Unicode Mayek, Meetei Mayek, Meetei Mayek Unicode, Unicode Meetei Mayek
Meetei, Mayek: #1206592567622373446 message
chilly fulcrum
ooh meetei is ur fd nice
anyone think some of these dont make sense
theres also a couple other like extended kana
like should they be in cjk
hentaigana also
abstract marsh
presumably this will go to 100 once update lands
wait what updates 😭
chilly fulcrum
oh, laurasia hasnt got to automate it yet
needs manual update for the % to change
trim pond
U+abc0
trim pond
ooh meetei is ur fd nice
made it like 10 mins ago. was quite surprised
surprised abc0 wasn't fd
chilly fulcrum
any opinion on the doc i sent?
its the current location of some blocks in key "messed up" areas
trim pond
i am not sure. personally i would move the U+3000 japanese stuff to cjk sheet
like what exactly does the cjk unified ideographs sheet mean? maybe it should only contain stuff from cjk unified ideograph blocks.
so maybe actually, I would make the cjk sheet only for stuff from CJK Unified Ideographs, CJK Unified Ideographs Extension /A/B/C/D/E/F/G/H/I, CJK Compatibility Ideographs Supplement, CJK Compatibility Ideographs
echo wasp
Only the blocks labelled CJK are in the CJK section
chilly fulcrum
kangxi used to have its own sheet
echo wasp
cuz it isn't really cjk
trim pond
well I changed the msg above a bit, and I would only include the normal cjk symbols, not any enclosed/circled/kana/punctuation/etc.
and not kangxi/cjk radicals
echo wasp
well I changed the msg above a bit, and I would only include the normal cjk symb...
They are considered CJK
chilly fulcrum
hmm interesting, i would have thought youd want more in the cjk lol
echo wasp
I want the CJK ones in the CJK section
Those that aren't shouldn't be in, and those that are should be in
trim pond
well yes, but it is not from like cjk unified ideographs/ ideographs / compatibility ideographs
echo wasp
CJK isn't just ideographs / compatability tho
untold crystal
u+5547. Can Anyone tell me why is it so hard to increment here? (or to get this?)
trim pond
yeah but I think of that sheet as the one who has the big cjk blocks/ blocks of hanji/kanji
chilly fulcrum
u+5547. Can Anyone tell me why is it so hard to increment here? (or to get this...
cause ai knows what it means
anyone got a better remove the seq. btw