Unicode

[abstract marsh]

no worries ever since i have left this ground for few month ( not grinding unicode ), i was behind alot

[trim pond]

why is lithuania spamming emojis

[regal fulcrum]

but you can help with other stuff

[raven ruin]

alright explain to me aswell

[echo wasp]

basically what I came here for months ago had been found. period.

[trim pond]

me too

[echo wasp]

very sadly that cannot be fufilled

[spice lark]

i also have no idea where to start on other stuff

anyway ill be back in like 20

[lethal nymph]

you can use my strat (!!!)

[raven ruin]

??

[echo wasp]

is there a rule against spamming reacts

[lethal nymph]

rule 2 probably counts

[tepid blaze]

just block the person who react, this way you are sure there will be no reacts

[lethal nymph]

why is it functioning like quotes

wait

[abstract marsh]

Hll + If

[lethal nymph]

set transmit state and cancel

oh nice

[echo wasp]

the quote has been quoted

[lethal nymph]

now it doesn't wanna leave quote

[lethal nymph]

what do i do in this situation

[trim pond]

.

combine "[94]" with "hi Mr. " "hi Mr. <" etc to get "hi [94]" / "hi Mr. [94]"

and then remove the word hi

to get Mr. [94]

or directly remove the mr.

[lethal nymph]

oh someone already did it

[echo wasp]

I'm gonna snipe fd

wait what

[graceful marsh]

ASD sniped it from the past

[trim pond]

did someone do it?

wasn't me

[graceful marsh]

Neir I

[echo wasp]

yea same

[graceful marsh]

Therefore there is an impostor among us

[trim pond]

found the recipe that was used

[regal fulcrum]

why is the control character entry 3.8k recipes deep

[echo wasp]

Well it mostly isn't that many steps

most are unnecessary

[graceful marsh]

Oh come on

[regal fulcrum]

String.append('') :(((

i dont have those

[lethal nymph]

real

[graceful marsh]

Go to the Cult pins

[echo wasp]

@raven ruin it's that < + ".

have fun

[raven ruin]

wat

[echo wasp]

you wanted that period

[lethal nymph]

why did it do that

[echo wasp]

alright new control to add

[graceful marsh]

Yes, I see

Should I use Nata's or Alfo's?

[echo wasp]

idk

[raven ruin]

are you using a different quotation mark?

[echo wasp]

i used nata's one for my sheet

[graceful marsh]

I will do the same then

[echo wasp]

exact same

[trim pond]

wait I must've accidentally put different ones in the lineage

[raven ruin]

i did " + Prepend Mr., but it didn't give Mr. "

[echo wasp]

Well " had a different emoji and was fd

you had to follow the first step

[raven ruin]

yeah

[raven ruin]

well then which quotation mark is it

[echo wasp]

it is a normal Quotation mar

mark

[raven ruin]

then why tf does it have a different emoji

[echo wasp]

with U+0093 before it

[raven ruin]

ahh

[trim pond]

sorry this is the correct one

[echo wasp]

I'll insert that as a note :))

[graceful marsh]

92 next, lady and gentlemen?

5 more and C1 will be complete

If we don't count 7f

Which we shouldn't

[echo wasp]

I have Mr. 91<92

[trim pond]

someone could check all of the other ones (7f, 92, 97, 99, 9c, 9d) whether they have or haven't been found

[echo wasp]

Mr. [91][94] + "the Mr. '<' "

[trim pond]

like combine them with themselves and see if it goes through

[graceful marsh]

7f was down as of like 7 hours ago

[trim pond]

you mean found?

[graceful marsh]

No, not found

[lethal nymph]

this is what happens when i search for Mr. now

[trim pond]

how do you make "the mr. '<' "?

[echo wasp]

um

ntsq where is the ancient visual lineage

[graceful marsh]

We should really label them with like a key

[echo wasp]

I'm at ">[82]"

[trim pond]

nvm I found i

[echo wasp]

you found i ???

[trim pond]

oh f I found "hi Mr. '<' " not "the Mr. '<' " oops 😦

[trim pond]

no, not 92

[echo wasp]

nvm found 92

U+0092 text lineage
[91] = U+0091
[92] = U+0092
[94] = U+0094

Mr. [91][94] + "the Mr. '<' " = Mr. [91]<[92]
Mr. [91]<[92] + Remove The Mr. = [91]<[92]
[91]<[92] + "..b = [91]>[92]"
Mr. " " + [91]>[92]" = Mr. ">
Mr. "> + [91]>[92]" = Mr. ">[92]"
Mr. ">[92]" + Remove The Mr. = ">[92]" 
">[92]" + Delete The > = [92]```

[trim pond]

now how do I get "..b

[echo wasp]

wait lemme see if "..a qorks

works

[trim pond]

"..a doesn't work

nvm I found it

[echo wasp]

0097 now?

[trim pond]

can you link to the lineage for Delete the > ?

[regal fulcrum]

Can we have a collection of gas leak moments

or just silly goofy stuff

[echo wasp]

I cant find it, but my way was Delete The _ + The ">"

[trim pond]

ok thx

[lethal nymph]

why in the world do you have The ">"

[graceful marsh]

Wasn't there a whole saga regarding "<"

This sounds like a byproduct

[lethal nymph]

i thought only i had it

[graceful marsh]

Racist

[echo wasp]

idk

[spice lark]

i have it too nata square

[lethal nymph]

probably for the "living" room

ohh right i forgot partial quote was a genre

[echo wasp]

anyone has 97 in any element

[spice lark]

:skullemoji:

[lethal nymph]

don't have yet

[echo wasp]

String.append('u+0080') is already a thing

[spice lark]

i was doing skullemoji to what nata said

[trim pond]

97 is the ony one we don't have

maybe go for 99

[lethal nymph]

what do we have for 99?

[echo wasp]

"d" + Mr. Append '€œ' = Mr. D'€™

[lethal nymph]

amazing

i'll see

[trim pond]

but it is together with U+80 so it will probably be nearly impossible to separate it

[lethal nymph]

amazing

getting rid of the capital letter would make it easier at least

[echo wasp]

it literally just gave "I'm a potato"

[lethal nymph]

adam

capital gone now

[echo wasp]

I removed the d

[lethal nymph]

now we can quote it

[echo wasp]

I have 8099 quoted

now how to remove the i0

80

[lethal nymph]

not sure honestly

pray it disappear

[trim pond]

yeah gl

[lethal nymph]

the 99 keeps turning into 98 for some reasons

[echo wasp]

yea

[trim pond]

I got [80][99] prett easily

˜ + D'€™ = €™

[98] + .. = [80][99]

[echo wasp]

now can you remove the 80 pretty easily

[trim pond]

no

[echo wasp]

have we removed a 80 before

[trim pond]

no

if we figure that out, we get 3 controls for free

[echo wasp]

that is pretty much almost all the mssing c1s

except for 97

[graceful marsh]

What do you mean 3 for free?

I must've missed that part

[trim pond]

we already know how to make "[80][99/9c/9d]"

[graceful marsh]

Ahhh

[trim pond]

wait no

I don't have "[80][9d]", but I have "a[80][9d]"

[lethal nymph]

can we abuse token cutoff

[graceful marsh]

Clearly the next step is to make Remove The "[80]"

[echo wasp]

anyways time to add 82 to your sheet

[echo wasp]

sure

[lethal nymph]

my attempt cut 99 off and left 80 lol

[graceful marsh]

Can you invert it?

[echo wasp]

what if you could reverse the while string

[graceful marsh]

Jinx

I own your house now

[trim pond]

or reverse their order which.. sounds pretty much impossible

[heady escarp]

does the strat where u get somethingã(controlcharacter) and u turn it into somethinga(controlcharacter) not work on some of them?

[trim pond]

the thing is that we have two control chars next to each other

[echo wasp]

one of them in particular ....

[graceful marsh]

Did you get [80][99] though?

[trim pond]

yes #1206592567622373446 message

[graceful marsh]

Ah

It'll probably regurgitate nonsense but String.reverse has sometimes switched around gelled codepoints

[trim pond]

maybe we should just combine the "[80][99]" and [80][99] with every other [control] or "[control]" or Mr. [control]

and hope that we get lucky

huuuh? I just got 80 as the second character

[graceful marsh]

Toke-

Oh wait

[echo wasp]

bruh I'm so mad

[graceful marsh]

9B

[echo wasp]

it reversed without 99

but doesn't reverse with 99

[trim pond]

i didn't use any reverse tool

this is my collection of them now

[lethal nymph]

amazing

[graceful marsh]

New shortest spelled backwards chain

[echo wasp]

ok so flip the word ordering just removes the 99

[lethal nymph]

wtf it transformed into c and d

both with 80 of course!

[echo wasp]

I managed to make the 80 go at the very back

[lethal nymph]

new poseidon too

[echo wasp]

issue is thay the element has like 15 controls in it

[lethal nymph]

the natural instinct to ruin reaction spelling

[echo wasp]

92"8080808080808080808080 lol

[trim pond]

lol

oh yeah to get the reversed ones ( like [control][80] ), just combine [80][99] + Mr. [control]

[graceful marsh]

Reaction spelling is a challenge to which one must rise to the occasion of

[lethal nymph]

lol it removed the 9c at the back

[echo wasp]

why is there a 80 after the quotes

[graceful marsh]

He left

[lethal nymph]

see there used to be a 9c there

i almost replied with he right

[trim pond]

imagine [80][08]

[lethal nymph]

oh the horror

[graceful marsh]

Boob

[lethal nymph]

can we make /08/ to construct string.replace(/08/g, '')

[graceful marsh]

Very different reactions from the left and right wing there

[echo wasp]

imagine [80][10ffff]

[trim pond]

imagine [0][10ffff]

[lethal nymph]

the average infinitecraft player wouldn't get it

[echo wasp]

every single control in your ic is invisible...

a casual player will take one look at this and say that you're cheating

[graceful marsh]

Can we get [80]fire, [80]earth, [80]water and [80]air

[echo wasp]

Air??

[graceful marsh]

You heard me

[lethal nymph]

it removed the 99 let's go

[lethal nymph]

oh i missed this

can probably try to token clip it

oh that's 9b

[echo wasp]

Well 9b's gotta become another char

[graceful marsh]

Every control is monotoken right?

What about doing Seq. but on a larger scale?

[echo wasp]

Seq. Seq. Seq.

[lethal nymph]

Seq.

[echo wasp]

-# Seq.

[lethal nymph]

Seq.

[echo wasp]

why did discord not do the popup

[lethal nymph]

||it's discord's internal url for rickrolling||

[graceful marsh]

By some incredible act of association that's somehow enough

[lethal nymph]

it's been around since like more than 2 years ago maybe

i don't even remember how i found out

[graceful marsh]

Oh wow

First time I've managed to miss

Nice

[raven ruin]

xD

[lethal nymph]

development?

(it's stuck with a ton of controls)

great i prepend mr. and it remvoed 9c

[trim pond]

what the. how long is that element?

[lethal nymph]

lol

"{80}"hi Mr. "{80}{99}" + Reverse Alphabetical Order

honestly i dont think we can separate it from here

[lethal nymph]

i've been trying to insert an underscore in bewteen 80 and 99 but nothing has worked

what

[heady escarp]

❓

good emoji choice by AI

[regal fulcrum]

true!

[regal fulcrum]

put the controls into arrays so you can search for more controls more easily

also just realized that 0001-002F could be found using these controls

anyone tried the obvious stuff?

[trim pond]

into arrays ??

[graceful marsh]

Let's fucking go arrayfinite craft mentioned

[lethal nymph]

my attempts of splitting with array are not going well

do we have any 99 and 80 next to each other in that order

[graceful marsh]

So true Discord Search

[heady escarp]

or just 80-99

[lethal nymph]

we have a lot of 80-99

like, a lot

[heady escarp]

i made a reference to this screenshot laurasia sent

last message of it

[lethal nymph]

my bad i'm hungry

[graceful marsh]

No you're not

[lethal nymph]

fair enough

no way arraycraft reference

it doesn't touch the controls at all

[regal fulcrum]

i was joking

[lethal nymph]

i was hoping it'd split the controls instead

but it only splits letters lol

oh what

calm down

[regal fulcrum]

this szcks

[lethal nymph]

another no emoji field

not sure what to do with this

yea nothing reverses these controls

i'll sleep

lol my board looking like this

[tepid blaze]

look like some sort of continent, or a world map

[lethal nymph]

i think we should just try to find another 99 entry

this one is hopeless

[graceful marsh]

There is nothing we can do

[heady escarp]

https://tenor.com/view/there's-nothing-we-can-do-gif-14390726165144583214

[tepid blaze]

he actually never said it

[heady escarp]

but the meme

[graceful marsh]

Eh, kinda

[lethal nymph]

earth if it was good

[trim pond]

freddy

[graceful marsh]

Earth if it was good

[raven ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/facts-big-facts-true-so-true-true-story-gif-10768238346551082063

e

my gif isn't loading for me

[chilly fulcrum]

0001-001f using these controls is not viable in my opinion

[regal fulcrum]

1F my bad

idk tbh

i personally highly doubt controls from 0001 and 001F are possible

[lethal nymph]

even when we have recipes for some of them?

[chilly fulcrum]

How’s the kanji going

[chilly fulcrum]

Control+← Backspace in Microsoft Notepad used to insert the delete character[10] until it was changed in 2018 to make it delete the previous word.[11]

delete last word

[tepid blaze]

?

[sonic heart]

This is my bidaily question about if 0001 has been found in a legitimately obtained element

[chilly fulcrum]

not yet

[sonic heart]

I bet yall are having so much fun trying to find 0001

[raven ruin]

lol

funnn

[chilly fulcrum]

I think we are more trying for c1 controls

there’s no viable idea to even get into c0 controls yet

[sonic heart]

I am not even gonna attempt to get any control chars

I don't wanna fall into that rabbit hole

[chilly fulcrum]

Yeah very very fair

[chilly fulcrum]

ah heck

just realised

missing characters

groans

[sage wren]

Unicode.

[chilly fulcrum]

ill just dump here everything that needs to be "fixed"

[sage wren]

One cod. Unicod.

[chilly fulcrum]

098f
0c3d + nearby
19b0
19d0
1a7f
1fbf0 (resolved)
3220
potentially way more that dont use the word "missing" but they use unassigneds and dont specify how to make

@tepid blaze able to make some kind of check where if a recipe uses a character not in your db it throws a warning

[tepid blaze]

me on my way to get a shitty ton of warning 💀

[chilly fulcrum]

thing is most of the unassigneds are shown how to get in images

so theres nothing you can do

we need a better way

[tepid blaze]

i can do it, i just say that im pretty sure i will get a stupid amount of them

[chilly fulcrum]

yeah i agree

[tepid blaze]

and a lot more my db don't even have all the one in missing character sheet (just cause i forgot about it, and may add them all via a program into my db or something, but like for the moment i only have result of my scrapping and some of the thing i had in my savefile)

[chilly fulcrum]

you can make it suppress the warning if the note has a link, although idk if you checked

for notes

plus the note format isnt consistent

hmmm

added a column so they can be checked off

valid reasons for checking off include: character is in sheet now cause it updated, unassigned and not used in any incrementation, recipe link now provided in sheet

if theres more let me know

but once all are checked off with those reasons then we are good

[regal fulcrum]

ignore
#1226511876733669436 message

[chilly fulcrum]

although the start of block for pua idk if wed like to delete if you know what i mean

[echo wasp]

(at least) some of them are 100% possible

[chilly fulcrum]

possible*

but ye

[chilly fulcrum]

what if i dont want to

[raven ruin]

could you give me a link to this?

[echo wasp]

they are 100 percent possible, without asterisks

if they weren't possible then the recipe for 0004 wouldn't have worked, even if 0001 and 0003 werent legit

[tepid blaze]

there no invalid recipe in the missing character sheet

[regal fulcrum]

☹️

[echo wasp]

i clicked on the link

[chilly fulcrum]

i mean, whether or not you put an asterisk is up to you, i just note that theres an asterisk that we dont actually know how to legitimately obtain any of them from a clean save

but yeah after cheating you can get them

but can you get them without cheating

[regal fulcrum]

please ignore again #1206592567622373446 message

[chilly fulcrum]

am i dumb or does 3200 just straight up break an FF barrier

[echo wasp]

100 percent

it would give nothing if impossible

[chilly fulcrum]

well maybe you can do it, but nobody knows how

[regal fulcrum]

hey

who did the linegae to 0080 belong to already?

this for some reason isn't in the lineage

the recipe to String.append(' C')

[chilly fulcrum]

is it needed?

[regal fulcrum]

bypassed it anyways

[chilly fulcrum]

lol

[chilly fulcrum]

I sent a lineage for 008d in 1037 steps

can use that possibly

[regal fulcrum]

thank fuck yea

please

[chilly fulcrum]

the first controls don’t appear till step like 3700

It’s not 0080 but it should help

I’ll try find it but maybe just search 008d or 1037

[regal fulcrum]

still gonna grab 0080

[chilly fulcrum]

should let you get to 0080 in < 2k

but a lot of appends which I cut out of my 1000 step for 008d so they will have to be made still

The browser also takes some kinda silly routes

I think it’s more like 400 or 500 step

Like instead of using Delete it chose nah let’s use Remove The Prepend instead and waste 100 steps

so I removed it from my save and tried again

[regal fulcrum]

Someone got Prepend U+0020? i dont have the prepend family

nvm

lmao

[chilly fulcrum]

yeah killerbowser

[regal fulcrum]

??

doesnt work

wait wtf

am i fucking blind

so

whats the deal with Shift-jis

such an odd element

i need a recipe to U+00ed

i cant get it

[tepid blaze]

don't know if its what you were saying (may have false positive/some missing)

[weak spindle]

Is there a list of invisible characters?

[sage wren]

yes, but you cant see it because its invisible.

sorry to break it to you

[weak spindle]

what about the recipes?

[chilly fulcrum]

whether something is invisible depends on the font, but any assigned canonically invisible characters are in the sheet

[chilly fulcrum]

no list of them on their own, youd have to look that up

[echo wasp]

It is Ã(soft hyphen)

[raven ruin]

anyone know the " <" recipe?

[echo wasp]

I'd recommend to stop going down this rabbit hole

I don't have " <"

[raven ruin]

😦

do you got " < "?

[chilly fulcrum]

lessthan (browser) + With spaces + i forgot

[raven ruin]

lol

[echo wasp]

lies, adding i forgot doesnt give " < "

[chilly fulcrum]

or does it

hey vsauce michael here

[raven ruin]

what's the last one 😭

[echo wasp]

and Lessthan (browser) hasn't been crafted yet

[raven ruin]

i got Lessthan

[chilly fulcrum]

i see, did you like come up with a really quick way to make requests? i have to write out code every time and its so tedious

oh no

it was + " <"

[raven ruin]

LOL

ok now

what's " <"

[echo wasp]

ok wait nvm I think I do have it

[chilly fulcrum]

😬

[echo wasp]

have fun !

[raven ruin]

YOU-

dc search isn't working when i try " <"

[chilly fulcrum]

yeha hang on

[raven ruin]

it just says it's never been said

btw rubiks

[echo wasp]

yeehaw

[raven ruin]

in code elements

i posted the lineage

[chilly fulcrum]

so i got it via removing letters from "texthere <"

[raven ruin]

for the ..+ element

[raven ruin]

oo

[echo wasp]

oh wait

I got it

[raven ruin]

YES

gib lineage

[chilly fulcrum]

the text ended in t

[echo wasp]

#1226724619290148917 message

I already had it the whole time 😶

[raven ruin]

i meant for " <"

[chilly fulcrum]

<script> now banned 😦

[echo wasp]

it is there

somewhere

[raven ruin]

no

i checked

it just assumes we have it

[chilly fulcrum]

do you have "hi <"

if so, try removing letters

[raven ruin]

i don't

do you have "hi <"?

[chilly fulcrum]

ye

its a useful tool

"hi " + <

[echo wasp]

#1223134678198911088 message

@raven ruin correct lineage

[raven ruin]

thanks

tbh i was just getting " < " for <script> and forgot it was killed by cloudflare 😭

[chilly fulcrum]

you can make but not use

[raven ruin]

ik

it's dead

https://technicalinfinitecraft.miraheze.org/wiki/Cloudflare

lol

🫠

in one day i got like 1k elements

rubiksmath reigns supreme as most active member of the discord

[chilly fulcrum]

uhok

@regal fulcrum use this for U+008d, much simpler (no invisible chars) https://ib.zptr.cc/item/01j5jhh51g1hxwmq05mafmd1y8

then pick up alfos lineage for 0080

browser still does a few dumb stuff

[night dragon]

i have a theory:
when the lookup bypass was first discovered, iirc pb hacked in u+1
would it be possible that somehow that somehow u+1 (the invis character) was added to the database and from then on the AI refered to that?
idk if im being coherent (im usually not)

[chilly fulcrum]

not impossible, but unlikely

its far more likely he actually hacked in U+0001 the character

such a misinterpretation by neals code is difficult to do unless you are doing it intentionally

the text U+1 is nothing even remotely like the actual character, in that there arent even any functions you can run that are native that i know of that could convert it

youd have to make one

at which point its intentional

[raven ruin]

if someone were to get U+0001, how would it look?

[chilly fulcrum]

depends on the font/browser

as with any character technically

[raven ruin]

lol

[chilly fulcrum]

but it would be either invisible (firefox, for me anyway) or a box

[abstract marsh]

it would be invisible for me

[raven ruin]

alright

[night dragon]

true

[chilly fulcrum]

could confront him about it

and ask if he did

[night dragon]

sadly pb is inactive so we cant ask him

[chilly fulcrum]

since neal wont cooperate

[abstract marsh]

what if ... hacked, grandfathered self revival

[night dragon]

last message

[raven ruin]

sadpag

LOL

[chilly fulcrum]

not active here, anyway

[raven ruin]

skull is best emoji

[night dragon]

we may never know

[chilly fulcrum]

can still ask

[night dragon]

its a lead
(that pb may have hacked in u+0001)

[abstract marsh]

multiple server
lets ask yui how many server her bot already landed

[night dragon]

@stoic bobcat how many server your bot already landed

[raven ruin]

Quantum Entanglement

https://tenor.com/view/religion-bill-wurtz-dont-history-gif-14178134

[night dragon]

posiedonism

[raven ruin]

QE is like a religion

[abstract marsh]

i forgot where tf my py code was that can check most element from the grind im doing

[chilly fulcrum]

the grind is that js right

and it always saves it

[abstract marsh]

yeah, i mean
sort by most crafted

[chilly fulcrum]

can make code to do that

do you have the results file? i can teach u how

[raven ruin]

guys

[abstract marsh]

i had it previously but burried somewhere

[raven ruin]

who here want's to teach me unicode

i wanna help

[chilly fulcrum]

not needed the code

just the results

[chilly fulcrum]

k, will get to that soon

(me wishing unicode guide was made)

[abstract marsh]

#1233405406265610260 message sure
( ip grabber ah zip )

[raven ruin]

guys

who here has a nerdy voice

[chilly fulcrum]

but this time i can teach how to to do it, whats the format again? is it result\t ing1\t ing2?

[night dragon]

why-

[chilly fulcrum]

i can teach in dev probably

or dm

[abstract marsh]

same as before, but lemme dig all folders i can think of
if it didnt exist, then yeah i'll ask for guidance

[chilly fulcrum]

okay, sure

i dont think i wrote code to do this sort for u it was something else

[abstract marsh]

yeah, its different one

found it, very old code apparently
will change it into set() as well

[chilly fulcrum]

hmm, if i understand you right you are close but not quite the right track

heres the main question: ultimately, to sort by recipe count, what is it that you actually need to do?

ignore formatting the file and opening it and whatever, pretend thats taken care of

[abstract marsh]

already achieved

[chilly fulcrum]

nice, can i see code?

[chilly fulcrum]

but what is it

do you have mbs

[raven ruin]

me?

[chilly fulcrum]

yes

what are you trying to say with that pic

[abstract marsh]

asserting dominance

[raven ruin]

just sent it lol

[chilly fulcrum]

why?

i mean the recipe for the ingredient would be cool

since its not ded

[thin warren]

it was not me this time i swear

[chilly fulcrum]

exactly what the perpetrator would say

lock him up

[thin warren]

🙌 my hands are clean

Would William Howard Taft really do that

I don’t think so

[chilly fulcrum]

an impostor william howard taft would though

[thin warren]

well fortunately i am the real one

[chilly fulcrum]

exactly what impostor would say

[chilly fulcrum]

i mean, 0002 was revived while we were talking about it so its someone in this room

it could be you

it could be me

it could even be P[redacted]n

[echo wasp]

one unnecessary step spotted.

[chilly fulcrum]

well theres more than that

browser picked its own stuff

i had to delete loads of stuff from my file to convince it to shave 600 steps

[echo wasp]

so as you can see you clearly deoptimised the lineage /s

[chilly fulcrum]

idk, whats unnecessary? i mean theres many things but what did you pick out

[echo wasp]

why anagram

[chilly fulcrum]

cause it picked that i guess

in the end it didnt skip remove first character i suppose anyway

mojibake route probably can be beat

and there was one involving current unicode skipping lots of delete steps

like "ha{81}{8d}" + current unicode = {8d}

[echo wasp]

but why are we optimising controls

[chilly fulcrum]

well, when i mentioned my save kali begged me for it

so i think thats like, kinda why

also avoids shy confusion, although now theres degree sign confusion

i was confused for a bit

it swapped out degree sign for masculine ordinal

which look similar

which made my board even worse cause i didnt even notice xd

and needing 3 chars is obv not best, i didnt try much other than pilcrow and i didnt try all the converters

i did cause low depth of pilcrow but like, ehhh doesnt really matter

[abstract marsh]

what is shy confusion

[chilly fulcrum]

soft hyphen

invisible + looks like regular hyphen

(when it renders)

[sage wren]

Who the hell shortens soft hyphen to shy

[chilly fulcrum]

html, apparently

[sage wren]

@html stupid you are

[echo wasp]

(S)oft (Hy)phen

[sage wren]

Thanks asd, I wouldn't have guessed that's where the shortening is from otherwise.

[chilly fulcrum]

tried and failed to make a string.append, i got what i wanted in Mr. "char" but thats it

man idk yall could do it with controls i cannot do it with regular chars

[night dragon]

do we accept PUAs?

and some more

[chilly fulcrum]

We don’t track them but you are welcome to

[night dragon]

track as in put in the sheet?

[chilly fulcrum]

Yeah there’s nowhere for them to go, they used to sometimes go in missing characters but Laurasia decided to discontinue that sheet effective immediately

Which I agree with

[night dragon]

i third

[chilly fulcrum]

The tasks to do for that is to resolve all rrferences

I put an extra column

once all say yes and give a reason then it’s getting archived

Very few of them require any action

You are welcome to help

[chilly fulcrum]

hi zwj lol

[chilly fulcrum]

took 20 min recording of me trying to get this append

i kept the board reasonably clean tbh in this run

but yeah so insane that "{00ad}" + "hi Mr. Append ' " actually put it inside apostrophes like thats absolutely absurd

it doesnt even do that for normal characters

didnt get anywhere close to as deep as alfo and you though, depth 2-3 at most

out of a required 12 or 13

[trim pond]

which ranges in "[leading][range][range]" did you say were good here?

like to transform into mojibake

was it a0-bf?

also I found this with a different a

[chilly fulcrum]

hey nice

did shift-jis work

or only convert to

well, thing is it is already mojibake if you are using a0-bf

and leading can be c1-f0

but youre welcome to try it on non mojibake text

[trim pond]

shift-jis didn't work for this one

[chilly fulcrum]

all you are doing is fooling it into thinking that "ac3" is just text that has been misinterpreted (in reality of course its exactly what you put in), so it just goes ok i will do the same

and encodes the output text incorrectly as you put in

anyway obv 20 min video too big to send

[trim pond]

even 3+ min video in 720p was too much to send for me

you'd have to do like 140p

and speed it up 2x also

[chilly fulcrum]

yeah pretty much

unlisted yt upload is an options but ehh

[trim pond]

or you could speed it up 2/3x or so, and split into multiple vids with lower, but readable, quality

[chilly fulcrum]

(its hardly readable as it is)

but basically i tried everything i had of the form Append '

(i dont have append ' or append " yet lol)

ive been meaning to make for so long

[trim pond]

this is my setup atm to make random "axx"

this is kinda funny

this one is interesting. It converted the middle one into 81

[chilly fulcrum]

damn you got them in the string.prepends

im still trying btw

to get this stupid emoji into anything

board rn (loads of fails removed)

do you have append ' and append " btw

[chilly fulcrum]

ty

append ' ?

??

[sage wren]

quick put it in the partial quotes bounty

[chilly fulcrum]

the what

ok

[slate whale]

don't have

[regal fulcrum]

ngl im heavily debating using save edit to put 0080 in my save

3k+ lineage is absurd

[abstract marsh]

choose

[chilly fulcrum]

i sent a 1,037 to 008d

0080 should only be not much farther

depending on your existing append infrastructure

but i didnt get 0080 yet

so maybe theres like a dealbreaker in there making my optimisation useless

[chilly fulcrum]

did you see my lineage? i can try extend it to 008d

[sonic heart]

u+0636

huh

[echo wasp]

I'd say do it at this point

also it isnt 3k most of it is unnecessary so

[tepid blaze]

so, it was what you were trying to say?

[chilly fulcrum]

yeah i think so

[chilly fulcrum]

huh what? ohhh is it the rtl

hit this to fix

the one on the right

if you do that it forces ltr

[sonic heart]

ah alright

[echo wasp]

no new controls yet today right

[sonic heart]

0648

[trim pond]

no

as someone said yesterday, I think we should find elements with 97/99/9c/9d a different way so that they are not preceded by 80.

[echo wasp]

sure I can give it a shot later

can't play much tdy

[tepid blaze]

why was this so annoying to make 💀

[chilly fulcrum]

i mean

i dont even know where to start so

[slate whale]

yes

[chilly fulcrum]

ive been spending last hour trying to get a regular character

in an append

(not a control)

[echo wasp]

why is there a space

[chilly fulcrum]

yeah there is a space

[echo wasp]

the controls seem to be zero width in ur game

[tepid blaze]

ive said nothing there a space

[lethal nymph]

damn okay

[chilly fulcrum]

lol

hmm maybe ill speed up video and try send it

see what i did wrong

but i couldnt get past like "hi Mr. Append '{emoji}"

[graceful marsh]

Can you put Minecraft music in the background

[lethal nymph]

removing 99 is strangely so much easier than keeping it

[chilly fulcrum]

Don't Remove The {0x99}

[sonic heart]

0650

[lethal nymph]

??

[echo wasp]

the 99 became an apostrophe

[lethal nymph]

why doesn't the 80 become the apostrophe instead

[graceful marsh]

Have you considered perhaps turning it off and on again

[chilly fulcrum]

i think i know why that is

so, ever heard of code pages?

[graceful marsh]

You say, shuffling the deck on your mahogany table

[chilly fulcrum]

basically they are like, the OS encoding

ill show u

[lethal nymph]

not sure what to feel about the fffd's

[graceful marsh]

Wait what

What was the recipe for that one?

[chilly fulcrum]

thats the hxd uninstaller but opened in hxd

"decoded text" is windows codepage

[echo wasp]

lol ai

[graceful marsh]

What could possible have triggered that?

[chilly fulcrum]

tokens?

[graceful marsh]

Yes but every c1 is monotoken

[chilly fulcrum]

oh? i thought it was 2

[graceful marsh]

So it wouldn't break down like that

Is it?

[lethal nymph]

another one

[chilly fulcrum]

i mean fair enough

error + utf-8 = fffd fffd fffd etc

it knows you are up to no good

that or it put in an invalid sequence

[graceful marsh]

It converted the 9F?

[chilly fulcrum]

like 0xc0

(c0 never appears in valid utf-8)

same for f5-ff

[graceful marsh]

Wait I'm even more confused

Can someone double check how many FFFDs are in that element

[echo wasp]

pretty sure it's 13

[graceful marsh]

With 4 controls

Ah fuck, I must've done something wrong then

Is only 80 monotoken?

[chilly fulcrum]

80 is c2 80 so 2 tokens unless they intervened

[echo wasp]

80 is one token

[graceful marsh]

Yes but if all of them were 2 then the total token count would be 21

[chilly fulcrum]

Random

[echo wasp]

80 is monotoken

[chilly fulcrum]

Yeah that seems kinda random

why only that one

[graceful marsh]

Well now I'm even more confused

So is 99

[lethal nymph]

i managed to put even more 80's around it

[chilly fulcrum]

interesting

[graceful marsh]

But not 9A

[slate whale]

damn

[echo wasp]

congrats

[chilly fulcrum]

Maybe why 99 swapped out

[echo wasp]

yea?

[chilly fulcrum]

friendly reminder missing characters needs to be done

[echo wasp]

not that friendly to me

[slate whale]

?

[echo wasp]

that's like 800k codepoints if u exclude puas

[chilly fulcrum]

D: sorry

[graceful marsh]

Fixing this damn page

It is completely deprecated and was only ever meant as a stopgap

I want to move everything necessary out and get rid of it for good

[sonic heart]

0654

[chilly fulcrum]

one thing I have learned is archive is usually better than delete but if you want it totally gone I won’t stop you

[graceful marsh]

Fair enough

[chilly fulcrum]

I deleted the invalids sheet and instantly regretted it

[echo wasp]

how instantaneous

horrible misspelling lol

[chilly fulcrum]

I don’t remember, but I remember that same day wishing I didn’t delete it

the archival process is just hiding and protecting sheet so that it can’t be unhidden, basically “deleted” but it’s also just still there

[graceful marsh]

Fuezt, did you extract recipes from the missing sheet?

We could just use you as the unused nonchar repository in the future

Also could someone check Pau Cin Hau Unicode + U+39 for 3105?

If it works I'll just switch out the recipe

[tepid blaze]

yep, and verified the recipe

[tepid blaze]

it does give 3105

[graceful marsh]

Alright, changing it out

[slate whale]

oh

[graceful marsh]

< 10000 cleaned out

[echo wasp]

im tired of always having to wait 30 mins for the game to load every time a import a savefile or add a new script

idk why it always loads so slow after i do that

[tepid blaze]

i have nothing to say, its right, wasn't expecting it to actually give me one that correct

and another one

[trim pond]

do you use dbounce script?

[echo wasp]

yes

it just doesnt work after i do that

idk it only seems to be on edge

ok finally

[trim pond]

do you have share crafts on or off?

[echo wasp]

idk whats that

[graceful marsh]

Helper share crafts

Turn it off, it's pointless now and just sends bad requests

[echo wasp]

where do u even turn it off

[abstract marsh]

setting

[graceful marsh]

Slight problem

[echo wasp]

i cant turn it off when my ic doesnt even load

[graceful marsh]

This climb is needed for 102E0

[echo wasp]

omfg finally

[sonic heart]

0687 and 068c

[regal fulcrum]

Can someone explain what gm_abuse does i read the description and i dont get it

[regal fulcrum]

Do the No mean theyre invalid

[graceful marsh]

Nah, they're unassigned characters

We're clearing them out so we can be rid of the Missing Chars sheet

[echo wasp]

my helper dementiaed, how do you get that append again

[graceful marsh]

Alright, finished with MissChars for now

165 remain

[heady escarp]

cant wait for you to finish with MisterChars..

[chilly fulcrum]

Always was the concern yeah

[weak cedar]

what about HitChars?

[chilly fulcrum]

The No just means nobody signed off that this character is no longer of any importance whatsoever

[heady escarp]

what does that mean

[weak cedar]

Miss <-> Hit

[chilly fulcrum]

Once all are signed off I will archive it

[graceful marsh]

This was my resolution for that

[regal fulcrum]

020a sucks to get omg

[heady escarp]

oh yeah

[chilly fulcrum]

Discord image also works but oh wait you don’t have mbs…

[heady escarp]

cant wait for AimChars

[chilly fulcrum]

ah dang

[graceful marsh]

Not like I'm gonna want to recreate that anyway

[chilly fulcrum]

also that probably came across wrong

[graceful marsh]

Who did Carian the first time around

[chilly fulcrum]

now that I read it

[weak cedar]

Why do you not have mbs?

[graceful marsh]

Don't wanna

[weak cedar]

Do wanna

[heady escarp]

but ur life would be easier with mbs

[weak cedar]

she's playing hardcore mode

[chilly fulcrum]

char or codepoint?

[heady escarp]

i spent 100 days in hardcore infinite craft

[trim pond]

oh I think I never posted a lineage for that. anyway follow this to get the prerequisites #1206592567622373446 message

[regal fulcrum]

char

[graceful marsh]

Dammit Rubiks

[regal fulcrum]

codepoint is easy

[graceful marsh]

Change it back

[heady escarp]

whats the opposite of math

[chilly fulcrum]

It’s on sheet, is there a problem?

[graceful marsh]

@trim pond could you at some point recreate the Coptic Epact number climb in-game?

With codepoints on

[graceful marsh]

No I mean the cat

[trim pond]

i don't understand?

[heady escarp]

𐂅 when ▭ walks into the room

[chilly fulcrum]

Yeah it’s not found yet for a reason

[slate whale]

its hard to get

[heady escarp]

me when i say no

[graceful marsh]

Were you the one that did this climb from 102D0 to 102E0?

[chilly fulcrum]

I’d say like, Alfo, savio, Radu, etc all gave it a very good go

and all came up empty

[trim pond]

yes actually. honestly I added like 80/90% of the recipes in missing chars

[chilly fulcrum]

nice

[graceful marsh]

Okie

If you've got some time could you make an in-game tree for it

That way I can just Disc link it

[trim pond]

ok

[regal fulcrum]

yayyy new very high character found

hopefully i can increment it far

[chilly fulcrum]

It’s the start of a block of 64

you’ll be able to get to 7f most likely

[regal fulcrum]

where do you see this

[chilly fulcrum]

Codepoint

[regal fulcrum]

yeah but website?

[chilly fulcrum]

it’s a utf-8 thing

[regal fulcrum]

ah im stupid okok

[chilly fulcrum]

The ai has to do much more work to go from 7f -80

so it usually just won’t

too much effort

[graceful marsh]

What the fuck what happened to the CJK page

[chilly fulcrum]

same with 3f-40, bf-c0, FF-00

[graceful marsh]

Oh there we go

[regal fulcrum]

?

[chilly fulcrum]

so essentially for the purposes of incrementing, the entirety of Unicode is split into groups of 64

[trim pond]

U+102E0 U+102E1

[chilly fulcrum]

incrementing falters when the ai has to do more than just add 1 to the number to go next

[regal fulcrum]

what do you mean

[chilly fulcrum]

likely rendering

happens

sometimes for me all the chars “disappear”

[hard oracle]

how do you even kno what to combine when making something like that 💀

[graceful marsh]

Changed

[chilly fulcrum]

they come back after a few seconds tho

[graceful marsh]

Nah I got the worse version where it dumps everything in the left two columns

[chilly fulcrum]

Oh

[regal fulcrum]

the code is above the item

that's what mbs is for

[sonic heart]

did you get it?

[hard oracle]

yeah ik but do you just trial and error a bunch of those till you get a new thing

[regal fulcrum]

no

[chilly fulcrum]

well it’s pattern observation

combining previous 2 characters often gives the next one

[trim pond]

I combine the 2 codepoints that are next to each other and at the end of the chain

[regal fulcrum]

Usually it's like

A + B = C
B + C = D
C + D = E
etc

[chilly fulcrum]

until it hits a “barrier” (end of block of 64)

[trim pond]

also sometimes the codepoints get skipped, as you can see in that lineage, but since they are unassigned we didn't bother making them

[chilly fulcrum]

where E+F = F or E or EF or D but not the next one

[sonic heart]

"..u-" + "0" + "2" + "0" + 'a' + Mr. U+ + Remove The Mr.

[regal fulcrum]

no i know

[chilly fulcrum]

They want the char

[regal fulcrum]

i mean the char

[sonic heart]

oh

🤦‍♂️

[regal fulcrum]

issoki

[chilly fulcrum]

characters down that low have all been thoroughly tried I think, so conventional methods are kinda thrown out the window

[sonic heart]

i tried getting "hi Seq. Ȉȉ " but i just couldnt get the secont ȉ to be lowercase

[raven ruin]

i predict that the unicode post will overtake awwm in messages

[echo wasp]

its not gonna happen

[raven ruin]

i mean we'll never know after it goes above 100k

[sonic heart]

068e

[echo wasp]

why is there a random fffd

[chilly fulcrum]

is there? why doesn’t it show

Also wtf

Quoted like that

[raven ruin]

i got -i-i-i-i- or smth

[lethal nymph]

really really common when working with controls

[chilly fulcrum]

Good work on missing chars soon it will be gone

[lethal nymph]

like, annoyingly common

[echo wasp]

yea...

[chilly fulcrum]

Hmm I saw Alfo had some but I haven’t had it yet

But I only got 8d

[chilly fulcrum]

Yeah I never had that

[trim pond]

does anyone have "[80][80]" ?

[chilly fulcrum]

Where’s the mod to let you see cintrols

[regal fulcrum]

dumb looking CJK

[trim pond]

#1206592567622373446 message

[chilly fulcrum]

Ah

[chilly fulcrum]

lol

[heady escarp]

thats a 90 degree rotated fence

[chilly fulcrum]

It’s nice to have you back here kali

[chilly fulcrum]

Actually it’s spongebobs teeth

[trim pond]

actually it's U+2456A

lol I found Mr. Append ' "

[regal fulcrum]

wtf youre right i got stuck

at 7F

[tepid blaze]

mdr amixem en gros sur 1/4 de l'image

[sonic heart]

#general message its 3rd rn but i think prehistoric species is gonna pass awwm first

[sonic heart]

0691

[echo wasp]

yeah it's 3f 7f bf ff

im not gonna question about who that dude is

[regal fulcrum]

mdrrrr

[regal fulcrum]

amixem

he was in the mr beast video

french content creator

[trim pond]

omg I thought that something stopped working because I have variations turned off, but it is that sneaky soft hyphen that snuck into the lower element

[echo wasp]

did it appear out of nowhere or

[trim pond]

no. I was combining random elements and one of them had 00ad inside (I was trying to make fake fds couple minutes before that)

[sonic heart]

06a7

shit this isnt on the sheet

06ad

06c3

06c2

06cc

[echo wasp]

https:/󠀯/neal.fun/infinite-craft/

[sonic heart]

what

06d4

[echo wasp]

nothin

just don't go onit on mobile

[sonic heart]

06d3

[trim pond]

yo I got U+07ed

Mr. Unicode N'ko recipe

btw rubiks, copying from split tool and then ctrl+shift+v puts it in a different font than the rest of the spreadsheet

ig that is probably because I use ctrl+shift+v, but it copies the color if I don't do that

wait hm..

[trim pond]

@chilly fulcrum I added soft hyphen to nata's tooltip and now it is not that big of a problem

[regal fulcrum]

how do i use this

i need to put these three in order

nvm i got it

holy win

20A0F

first time ever using the Seq. Strat

im so proud of mself

[untold crystal]

So, I'm trying to help the group one last time. I wanted to send the savefile but it's too large. Here is a portion of my undisclosed chars

[tepid blaze]

may turn it into a discord bot instead (should be fast to do, and easier to host, even if i keep the website idea, just seems a bit too much for that)

[graceful marsh]

Wait what do you mean a portion

[sonic heart]

is it not possible to put it in google drive?

[untold crystal]

Part 2. All that's left are a lot of CJK and 2 Hangul, but I won't post them now

I didn't think about that

[thin warren]

where is 80 on the sheet btw? only goes up to 7e and skips to a0

unless im just blind

[trim pond]

it's a different sheet #1206592567622373446 message

[thin warren]

oh cool

thanks

how do we not know where 1 came from

???????

[trim pond]

it is alive fsr

[pulsar island]

Sus new name

[thin warren]

thats very odd

was it always alive? i assume not?

[pulsar island]

What wad alive

[trim pond]

i don't know, but when we found out, some other from 0001-0008 range were also alive (i am not sure which ones exactly), and then like 2 days later we found out that even more were alive

[thin warren]

somebody is scheming

[lethal nymph]

1 3 and 7 were alive

[graceful marsh]

Someone (not us( got 0002 after we talked

[thin warren]

ive seen enough

[graceful marsh]

I'm keeping those brackets

[thin warren]

one of you is a spy

just ban everyone

[trim pond]

U+0001 and others

[pulsar island]

Ohh okk

[trim pond]

btw maybe we could try bruteforcing [96], [98], [9b] and their Mr. [96], "[96]" and Mr. "[96]" variants to see if something increments it. like combining them with different Unicode tools.