I only tried a few minutes tho
#Unicode
chilly fulcrum
trim pond
asd shared his lineages
chilly fulcrum
I got up to like “hi Co” xd
chilly fulcrum
From what? a I need to catch up
But also that wasn’t the only tool you made like 20
and so fast
trim pond
uhm it took me some time to make them yesterday, but I shared them today because i didn't want to share useless tools
trim pond
so when did you remove the mr
look at asd's lineages #1206592567622373446 message
chilly fulcrum
yeah, i see those but i gotta get all the loose ends
fd on EUA
i guess it works
trim pond
charat is pretty weird. it is adding \n at the end here
graceful marsh
So it's associated with newline for some reason
chilly fulcrum
wow so many tool
trim pond
wow so many tool
it is all made from "string.encodeuri" and "string.encodeuricomponent" by prepending hashtag / Antonym, etc.
chilly fulcrum
amazing, you didnt try prepend hyphen... did you know it wouldnt work or what
tepid blaze
had to change from 0.5 to 0.7
chilly fulcrum
i have these 4 now
was there other interesting?
like \x01 was cool
lmao
reversal
trim pond
like \x01 was cool
\x01 recipe, first recipe is wrong, follow this: #1206592567622373446 message
echo wasp
amazing, you didnt try prepend hyphen... did you know it wouldnt work or what
Hyphen-minus is just what I try first
chilly fulcrum
hm
now how do i make the stuff do anything
pretty boring rn
the converters just give random characters
trim pond
i am telling you, it just doesn't want to make the sequence "\(letter/number) anywhere, this is " \n"
nvm found this
trim pond
🫠
graceful marsh
nvm found this
Can you try Stands For on this?
trim pond
Can you try Stands For on this?
returns New Line
trim pond
what thing?
graceful marsh
I've got a consistent mass-scale 500 generator
I'm pretty sure it's because of Newline but I'm not sure
chilly fulcrum
im here
i need to add -1252 to the end
but its exact length 30 outside quotes
any ideas?
graceful marsh
Pull out the strings
graceful marsh
String.append('-1252')
Or the - and 1252 separately
chilly fulcrum
too long
cant be in quotes
also wtf
ehh close enough?
well still cant get anything interesting
how did you guys get it to do anything interesting
trim pond
combine with U+00xx chars
chilly fulcrum
also wtf \x?
trim pond
or other 2-letter mojibake
trim pond
also wtf \x?
that is just a normal alphabet
chilly fulcrum
\\x01 recipe, first recipe is wrong, follow this: https://discord.com/channels/1...
maybe mixed up quote type
first recipe doesnt work
trim pond
I didn't notice the quotation mark there
chilly fulcrum
ah
trim pond
got this
trim pond
ok give me a minute to make the lineage
chilly fulcrum
damn, thats absurd
what strategy
well i guess i will wait
is there any chance you can share your idea before you go ahead and make it so i can learn with u
trim pond
I am not sure it is makes sense to make the whole lineage the exact way that I made it because it requires like 4 string building branches. I think I will just share the last recipe. you can figure out how to make it.
trim pond
really?
chilly fulcrum
well yeah, you saw i got it with no hyphens
and im also struggling to pass "i convert euc-jp to " (i gave up on that branch about 20 min ago)
trim pond
is there any chance you can share your idea *before* you go ahead and make it so...
well the idea was to append 1252 to Convert Euc-jp To Windows-, but that didn't work. But it made other stuff instead and so I thought I will just make some stuff with Euc, some with Euc-jp, and also some with Windows/Windows-/Windows-1252, combine them together and hopefully get it. Eventually I somehow got Convert Windows-1252 and found this recipe
chilly fulcrum
no but like
the idea to get that far
i couldnt
i gave up here
all Nothing
i got Convert Euc-jp to Win
and that was the end of the line
ah I think I can do it tho
just give me a few minutes
trim pond
it this good? Convert Euc-jp To Windows-1252 recipe
echo wasp
what is that for
trim pond
rubiks was trying to make that
but I think that this could also generate some mojibake
echo wasp
are there any ideas for the C0 controls?
trim pond
are there any ideas for the C0 controls?
are those 00-1f?
hmm well I was thinking of making "\u0000" - "\u001f"
the closest I am to it is \u0000, " \u0000" elements (and 01, 02 as well)
what about convert to <control> or something similar?
sand coral
lol i'll take it
chilly fulcrum
it this good? Convert Euc-jp To Windows-1252 recipe
damn, the organisation to make such branches must be much better than me
lmao i had these already
like 45 min ago
i had them
but due to poor organisation it didnt catch on
trim pond
well I put aside all Conver xxx to xxx or Convert To xxx and then when I got a new one, I combined it with all of the ones that could potentially make it.
echo wasp
the ai seems to know what all the controls are and their codepoints but refuses to give them
chilly fulcrum
here
i got those with just combining other converts, and Reverse
2 extras with opposite
so how do i make it do stuff again? the mojibake converter with U+00xx isnt doing anything
trim pond
combine them with this character Î
chilly fulcrum
asd how did you make the 008d again
i forgot
something with string.tolowercase()? (i have everything except that variant)
trim pond
something with string.tolowercase()? (i have everything except that variant)
yes, Ã[insert shy here] + String.touppercase()
wow you can just do this à + Convert Utf-8 To Euc-jp = Ã
and get 81 from the 8d
chilly fulcrum
hmm
wait
i cant copy console output to check what i made
it replaced the control or shy with fffd
� + Convert Utf-8 To Euc-jp = �
bruh
literally cannot check
sand coral
10F80
chilly fulcrum
also i give up
tepid blaze
had to change from 0.5 to 0.7
i think i may have something stable, so maybe 10h of scrapping for CJK non stop? (if cloudlfare want)
chilly fulcrum
reminds me i need to upgrade script for auto download
how did you integrate it
i should make an option
tepid blaze
how did you integrate it
well you just need to make it run before everything else in the program
graceful marsh
lol i'll take it
???
chilly fulcrum
rare but it happens sometimes
chilly fulcrum
well you just need to make it run before everything else in the program
and how do i delay it so it runs at the right time? or does it wait
hang on link me where you sent snippet again
ill try implement it
tepid blaze
uh on your version idk i didn't try, i did it on the first version ever made (that i still use)
chilly fulcrum
lmao
echo wasp
wow you can just do this à + Convert Utf-8 To Euc-jp = Ã
so alive 81?
chilly fulcrum
snippet should apply still
trim pond
so alive 81?
yes
chilly fulcrum
ye im playing with the 81 rn
tepid blaze
uh on your version idk i didn't try, i did it on the first version ever made (th...
but i mean i can easily implement it in any of the program i ever made that need to download a csv, so shouldn't be hard
graceful marsh
Every single person has a personalised API experience
sage wren
Not true.
tepid blaze
Every single person has a personalised API experience
nah this time was not cloudflare, didn't read the full error
graceful marsh
What was the error then
sage wren
floudclare
chilly fulcrum
i want to know so bad if this has the 81 in it but i cant
graceful marsh
Ah yes
graceful marsh
Floudclare, the company that makes your websites more insecure
sage wren
it talks shit about your websites
chilly fulcrum
but i mean i can easily implement it in any of the program i ever made that need...
ok yeah im just trying to find
its a way up
graceful marsh
That implies Cloudflare butters up your websites
tepid blaze
What was the error then
<class 'requests.exceptions.ConnectionError'>: ('Connection aborted.', RemoteDisconnected('Remote end closed connection without response'))
chilly fulcrum
sounds like it rejected u
sage wren
That implies Cloudflare butters up your websites
it does, thats part of cloudflares services after all !
echo wasp
firefox replaces controls with fffd
then dont play with firefox
sage wren
But what the fuck kind of expression is butter up
echo wasp
go to another browser
trim pond
do you eat unbuttered friends too?
echo wasp
um whay
sage wren
amazing, discussion went from unicode to buttered cannibalism
candid trellis
This message contains cannibalism.
sage wren
This message contains cannibalism.
This message does not contain the aforementioned topic.
candid trellis
if cannibalists eat human meat. Why don't cannibalists eat eachother (if they are with multiple) or why don't they eat themselves?
graceful marsh
They do
sage wren
if cannibalists eat human meat. Why don't cannibalists eat eachother (if they ar...
they do
graceful marsh
Yep
candid trellis
This just made me remember a god awful video I watched of the darkest things on the internet
sage wren
number one: pitch black png
graceful marsh
Oh c'mon I was just about to make that joke
candid trellis
c'mon on who? and why
graceful marsh
Me when I come on on someone
sage wren
Oh c'mon I was just about to make that joke
graceful marsh
Oh no not this again
candid trellis
I still don't get why you randomly sent this the other day
I was gonna say I expected more of you but that sounds strange too
also why is #1206592567622373446 the new general?
tepid blaze
-# ʷʰʸ ⁿᵒᵗ
graceful marsh
Oh no he's tiny again
sage wren
fuezt-sized text
sage wren
also why is <#1206592567622373446> the new general?
The generals tend to migrate during the year.
its an observed trait of them
tepid blaze
Oh no he's tiny again
-# ʸᵉᵃʰ
candid trellis
The generals tend to migrate during the year.
Are we all immigrants?
graceful marsh
Excellent
We now have General lore
candid trellis
We can write a whole book series on the lore
tepid blaze
-# ⁱ ᵐᵉᵃⁿ ⁱᵛᵉ ᵃˡʷᵃʸˢ ᵇᵉᵉⁿ ᵗⁱⁿʸ, ⁿᵒʷ ⁱ ʲᵘˢᵗ ᵗᵃˡᵏ ˡⁱᵏᵉ ⁱ ˢʰᵒᵘˡᵈ ˢⁱⁿᶜᵉ ⁱ ᵃᵐ ᵗⁱⁿʸ ᶠᵘᵉᶻᵗ
sage wren
is there an evil fuezt who types with really big letters
tepid blaze
-# ᵐᵃʸᵇᵉ?
candid trellis
-# ⁱ ᵐᵉᵃⁿ ⁱᵛᵉ ᵃˡʷᵃʸˢ ᵇᵉᵉⁿ ᵗⁱⁿʸ, ⁿᵒʷ ⁱ ʲᵘˢᵗ ᵗᵃˡᵏ ˡⁱᵏᵉ ⁱ ˢʰᵒᵘˡᵈ ˢⁱⁿᶜᵉ ⁱ ᵃᵐ ᵗⁱⁿʸ ᶠᵘ...
Does your lover also think you are tiny?
tepid blaze
Yeah that impostor Fuezt from a while back
-# ⁱᵗ ⁱˢ ˢˡᵉᵉᵖⁱⁿᵍ ʷⁱᵗʰ ᵗʰᵉ ᶠⁱˢʰ , ⁱⁿ ᵗʰᵉ ᵃˡᵗᵃⁿᵗᵃ ʳᵉˢᵒʳᵗ ⁱⁿ ᵗʰᵉ ᵇᵃʰᵃᵐᵃˢ ᵒᵇᵛⁱᵒᵘˢˡʸ, ⁱⁿ ᵒⁿᵉ ᵒᶠ ᵗʰᵒˢᵉ ʳᵒᵒᵐˢ ʷʰᵉʳᵉ ʸᵒᵘ ᶜᵃⁿ ˢᵉᵉ ᵗʰᵉ ᶠⁱˢʰ
sage wren
What happened to them anyway?
they were dealt with
candid trellis
How many households have been destroyed because the milkman came?
graceful marsh
No idea
sage wren
How many households have been destroyed because the milkman came?
Not enough.
graceful marsh
Terrible
sage wren
Mediocre
sage wren
kangxi radical 🐀
chilly fulcrum
next level: make it ask the game to export json
yeah like fuezt got some kangxi too
mine is like what he got
graceful marsh
I love the Kangxi Radical Rat
chilly fulcrum
i think it can be made from chaining
sage wren
i need to put kangxi radicals up into chains for it? seems a little harsh..
graceful marsh
How do you chain a rat
hybrid dune
do you guys know a way to upgrade the windows 10 font to include more unicode characters? because i dislike looking at boxes 😭
chilly fulcrum
@regal fulcrum idk if you are able to tell but let me know if any of these are in the list of common kanji and i can add it, some of them are just things that will be made with time, but i will have a look when i have time at all of them
chilly fulcrum
do you guys know a way to upgrade the windows 10 font to include more unicode ch...
yeah you can install more fonts
sage wren
do you guys know a way to upgrade the windows 10 font to include more unicode ch...
change the boxes to circles then
hybrid dune
well circles are gonna get old aswell
sage wren
Keep swapping them out
hybrid dune
yeah you can install more fonts
which one ?!ß1?!ß!?1ß1?!!?!?
chilly fulcrum
but it should be chainable
(idk, but you can look it up or ask nata, he has loads of fonts)
hybrid dune
alright @lethal nymph do you have any font that has more unicode characters than default windwos 10 fonts?
sage wren
nata will get back to you during business hours
graceful marsh
1 to 4 AM Ho Chi Minh time
tepid blaze
alright <@696698254770831421> do you have any font that has more unicode charact...
should look in this: https://fonts.google.com/noto
echo wasp
i got alive 0082
and 0084
the à has a soft hyphen after it the controls are 0082, 0084
now 0085 lol
trim pond
can you give like full lineage? I don't think anyone has the 「a」
graceful marsh
Y'know what
chilly fulcrum
i see, you got it lowercase
echo wasp
Ã(shy) in jp quotes is this
graceful marsh
I want to make a Unicode trading card game now
chilly fulcrum
no
hybrid dune
im more asking about the string.encodeuricomponent
chilly fulcrum
soft hyphen
sage wren
I want to make a Unicode trading card game now
fffd most worthless card?
chilly fulcrum
Ã(shy) in jp quotes is this
although, wait what? i dont have either
graceful marsh
Maybe?
trim pond
no, by 「a」 I meant 「ã」. did you look in his recipe?
hybrid dune
oh
tepid blaze
I want to make a Unicode trading card game now
which one would be the rarest...? control, = or 🤔 (if we think about the rarity of them in IC)
echo wasp
wait
graceful marsh
I'm not sure, I haven't thought this through beyond the name
sage wren
what's the name then
trim pond
ok I got it. I didn't think of using "ã"
graceful marsh
Unicode: the Trading Char Game obviously
chilly fulcrum
do those have shy?
echo wasp
bruh i cant see what im even doing
tepid blaze
Unicode: the Trading Char Game obviously
imagine trying to get them all 💀
trim pond
wait apparently I have the wrong one
chilly fulcrum
btw new kangxi i think i can get em
trim pond
oh does it have a soft hyphen?
echo wasp
yes
trim pond
is that string.append('[shy]') ?
echo wasp
yes
trim pond
is there a lineage for that anywhere?
sage wren
imagine trying to get them all 💀
i just got the ⎁ card !!
graceful marsh
imagine trying to get them all 💀
Fuezt what do you think this bounty is about
sage wren
discussing unicode
tepid blaze
Fuezt what do you think this bounty is about
-_-
sonic heart
02e8 and 02e9
graceful marsh
Although I suppose the difference is we're not paying for every character
sage wren
unicode trading cards are blank unless you use a fromcharcodifier to reveal the character
chilly fulcrum
i happen to have convert to kangxi radicals
by accident
omg those are actually awful... requires "\"...
lmao
echo wasp
i cant put it in quotes
sand coral
11300
I restarted the block but it's not a fd. Who already has 11300?
𑌀
echo wasp
now 96
idk what i have and dont have anymore. gonna run a script later to check for controls
trim pond
wait
I am super confused by this. What is that element on the top left in the first recipe?
echo wasp
I am super confused by this. What is that element on the top left in the first r...
"c3"
"00c3" + String.append('softhyphen')
trim pond
ok it turns out I already had "ã[shy]" and so when I made it, it didn't say new recipe so I thought it was something else. xd
chilly fulcrum
lol I accidentally made "ã[shy][shy]"
how to get "hi Mr. Append ' "
trim pond
they look the same because I have it both uppercase
echo wasp
alive...
chilly fulcrum
how so many
also plz
how to get up to "hi Mr. append ' "
need it to follow any of what you guys have
sand coral
how to get "hi Mr. Append ' "
something like this
trim pond
how to get up to "hi Mr. append ' "
trim pond
ooh and I found "ã[81][8d]ã[81][8c]" -> contains 8c
chilly fulcrum
?
trim pond
no
trim pond
it was pointing out that it contained 8c
trim pond
trim pond
i thought it was finally over lol
i wish
chilly fulcrum
ok i got jp quoted a shy
echo wasp
now 8f...
chilly fulcrum
now what
how do i do things
get controls
etc
if i need uri component, this is best i got
trim pond
fd on ã[shy][shy]
chilly fulcrum
?
ok
sorry
do i need encodeuricomponent
nvm i think i have controls but i cannot check
sand coral
11320
chilly fulcrum
@graceful marsh earth + earth = mountain influenced this you think?
graceful marsh
Well it's not Boulder so I have no clue
chilly fulcrum
i have 81 84 8d 8f
tepid blaze
i think i may be close to getting one to work
graceful marsh
I mean it only needs to have a set number of options to cycle through right?
trim pond
you have 09 and 0a??
echo wasp
ignore 0009 and 000a
those are used for the savefile or sth
ok well i hope i dont die tracing back
trim pond
huh? what did I make?
echo wasp
wtf
chilly fulcrum
I will explain why removing the a will be so hard
echo wasp
huh? what did I make?
recipe?
chilly fulcrum
huh? what did I make?
Put it in an analyser
abstract marsh
huh? what did I make?
damn letter i with combining something fuckery
trim pond
oh yeah, it is U+00ad 18 times lol
abstract marsh
lmao
chilly fulcrum
So as far as the Ai is concerned you guys are literally just playing with regular Japanese characters, and the jp quotes really drive that point home to the ai
trim pond
ig tokeniser doesn't show those. I thought it did
chilly fulcrum
and the issue is, removing the a is like me saying: remove the first byte of 😀
it’s illegal you can’t just do that
so the ai knows this and therefore won’t do it
echo wasp
So as far as the Ai is concerned you guys are literally just playing with regula...
but we arent?
chilly fulcrum
but it thinks you are
echo wasp
we are not even in jp quotes
chilly fulcrum
The Jp quotes really convince it
graceful marsh
ig tokeniser doesn't show those. I thought it did
Nope, doesn't render comchars
Or invis
tepid blaze
i think i may be close to getting one to work
well it work (and could even do automatically the chains from the csv, altough its not especially what i will use it for)
chilly fulcrum
we are not even in jp quotes
Since when
trim pond
not ad
echo wasp
chilly fulcrum
Nah 0a is newline
chilly fulcrum
So how did you escape
chilly fulcrum
not ad
0x0a is newline token, it shows on the tokeniser as 0x0a, but 00ad won’t ever show on the bottom
chilly fulcrum
why are u just using this random letter a
It’s not quite like that
the a is kinda forced
echo wasp
why are u just using this random letter a
its not random
heady escarp
then why not use any other character
echo wasp
i cant even share the link
chilly fulcrum
cause it won’t work
echo wasp
3.3k steps...
heady escarp
cause it won’t work
how do u know that
echo wasp
maybe if you understand mojibakes better you'll know
chilly fulcrum
You’ll see the a everywhere in the examples
echo wasp
chilly fulcrum
It’s because of the misinterpretation of UTF-8 and other formats
sand coral
11452
That's crazy
echo wasp
its for an element with 0083
heady escarp
the end goal is to get a control character by itself right?
chilly fulcrum
yeah, but I don’t know if this is the way
echo wasp
correct
chilly fulcrum
it’s at least a good start
heady escarp
we could have a documentation of strats we tried
chilly fulcrum
but I think the final process will need to be more refined somehow
echo wasp
we could have a documentation of strats we tried
im NOT doing that
heady escarp
we could have a documentation of strats we tried
and that documentation could include recipes for all the tech we used
chilly fulcrum
removing the a is an illegal operation in the ai’s mind so it won’t do it
echo wasp
anyways rubiks it has your answers for how i escaped
graceful marsh
Yeah no
I'm not scouring those like 50 or so elements
heady escarp
50? thats a lot
chilly fulcrum
The image is almost enough
echo wasp
i probably have almost 400 elements with controls now
heady escarp
and i read some messages here and apparently its hard to tell which of ur elements have controls
chilly fulcrum
I bet it will drop the step count massively
chilly fulcrum
and i read some messages here and apparently its hard to tell which of ur elemen...
Only for Firefox it looks like
chrome is fine
heady escarp
Only for Firefox it looks like
maybe theres an extension that would let u see it idk
echo wasp
Try optimising hi seq and see what happens
nah dont have tgime for that
chilly fulcrum
Yeah I thought you meant Firefox or something
echo wasp
this is one of the two elements i have which contains 0088. its really bad
sand coral
1145E
chilly fulcrum
I got 2fc3
I think my Strat is good for 2fc1
just throw U+2d01 with cjk tools
should work
heady escarp
other than string.encodeuricomponent what are the other weird elements we found recently
sand coral
nice 2/3 done
echo wasp
should i put null in my sheet as probably impossible or impossible
chilly fulcrum
nice 2/3 done
Hey very nice
echo wasp
cool
heady escarp
wdym by ur sheet
chilly fulcrum
slow trickle but progress is progress
heady escarp
do u mean the unicode sheet
echo wasp
i have a sheet for controls
graceful marsh
Impossible
heady escarp
i think im the first person to find string.encodeuricomponent if im not wrong
and i got it by playing around with string.replace elements
chilly fulcrum
i have a sheet for controls
I’m open to you adding just a controls section, I think need to step back just a little
echo wasp
nah its fine mine is more for personal usage
heady escarp
theres probably all kinds of weird stuff we havent discovered that could be found with string replace stuff
chilly fulcrum
Okay.
echo wasp
my 0089 elements...
echo wasp
idt its really getting updated
chilly fulcrum
I want to remove it but it may contain references
graceful marsh
On another note, are we subtracting the reds from the total % already?
chilly fulcrum
On another note, are we subtracting the reds from the total % already?
Nope
graceful marsh
I feel we should
chilly fulcrum
I feel we should
just don’t break anything too hard
echo wasp
yeah shld remove the checkboxes for them
graceful marsh
Does the count count the checkboxes?
graceful marsh
We could tick them then
trim pond
made these 'ã[81][8d]'
chilly fulcrum
I forgot the implementation of the total counter
echo wasp
my new record for most steps
chilly fulcrum
I think it just ran a numeric count so it would count checkboxes
chilly fulcrum
my new record for most steps
most steps 💀
echo wasp
dont ask me why And Keep God First is used
graceful marsh
Well let's see
I'm gonna remove the checkbox for 0020 temporarily to see if it breaks
chilly fulcrum
should be easy to add an impossible counter
and subtract it off for purposes of percentage
but still keep the integrity of total counts
sage wren
dont ask me why `And Keep God First` is used
why is And Keep God First used
echo wasp
sage wren
ip stealer
chilly fulcrum
if that’s even necessary, maybe we have a %total and a % excluding impossible? Or just remove % total and have an impossible column
graceful marsh
This is inedible
sage wren
This is inedible
No It is not
graceful marsh
Well until we have a consensus I'm not touching it then
echo wasp
my new record for most steps
nvm this wins by one singular step
sage wren
I already did.
trim pond
make a bible out of it. each page will have 3 steps, so you will have 1k+ pages
echo wasp
This is inedible
is that from my file
chilly fulcrum
Well until we have a consensus I'm not touching it then
Not touching what
echo wasp
my 8bs are...
chilly fulcrum
total counts checkboxes, but it should be easy to add an impossible counter
and subtract it off
echo wasp
oh damn only 2773 steps
chilly fulcrum
Make a new table format for admin sheet that displays the data nicely including number of impossible and updated percentages
it might stretch a lot wider tho
idk come up with something play around look online for really neat tables sometimes when I see tables in official counts or tallies they amaze me with their efficiency
whatever you come up with I’m sure it will be great
The issue with the a strategy is that the only time the ai ever will have seen ã[control][control] is when Japanese is interpreted wrong, so that’s just what it sees, the Japanese - although I doubt it has any association with meaning it just knows it’s “Japanese”
or it thinks it is
Because every single example will have taught it that
we are trying to tell it to ignore literally all of its training
that’s hard
heady escarp
i cant even share the link
i googled about mojibake and these are some of the characters i found: šóâá玟彼¾™¢æØ©®¶•π€
maybe instead of only testing that a character u should try testing some of the other ones?
echo wasp
maybe you just dont understand it well enough yet
heady escarp
yeah i dont understand why u would only try 1 character
echo wasp
mojibake doesnt just happen for no reason at all
echo wasp
(0090 alive), posted so there will be a link avaliable
(same reason, 0093 alive)
chilly fulcrum
i googled about mojibake and these are some of the characters i found: šóâá玟å½...
But what came before those ones
heady escarp
But what came before those ones
wdym
chilly fulcrum
in every instance they are paired with the a
heady escarp
well cant u still test the other characters
sonic heart
nice 2/3 done
69% when
heady escarp
if they all have something to do with mojibake
echo wasp
mojibake breaks it into its componenets if im not mistaken right
chilly fulcrum
mojibake breaks it into its componenets if im not mistaken right
but basically every character in volatile ranges like these right
so
And for Japanese, the common characters first component is always the a
you can in theory make the first component be anything from 00c2 to 00f4
but 00c3 and 00e3 are far and away the most common
Natas brute forcing only ever found mojibake of this form
every single instance had the a
echo wasp
(0090 alive), posted so there will be a link avaliable
same reason
echo wasp
i googled about mojibake and these are some of the characters i found: šóâá玟å½...
you literally wont see any control sequences we have found without the a, accidental or purposeful
chilly fulcrum
might be worth a try though, if it mojibakes in a control but then the leading character is obscure may be it will forget
echo wasp
perhaps
chilly fulcrum
target is anything 00c2-00f4 in theory, in practice f0 is upper limit
f1 is U+4xxxx already so
echo wasp
we now have 22* control characters found, isolated or in a string
maybe 18 if you dont count 0004 0005 0006 0008
chilly fulcrum
i googled about mojibake and these are some of the characters i found: šóâá玟å½...
so I guess this isn’t the worst idea, although those characters you listed won’t ever appear as the first character in a mojibake
c2-f0 is the range, but I’d be surprised if anything outside of c2-ca and e3-e9 worked
Actually
Try f0
F0 is the first byte of most assigned Unicode characters (all from 10000-3ffff)
so by weight of numbers and random mojibakes it should have a lot of examples
Also AD is not necessary
Anything 80-BF will work to come after the ã or whatever else you put first
heady escarp
LMAO
"In computing and telecommunication, a control character or non-printing character (NPC)"
wikipedia calls control charactere NPCs
chilly fulcrum
"In computing and telecommunication, a control character or non-printing charact...
U
chilly fulcrum
U npc!!! (sorry, this Jp streamer I watched always said U to everything)
heady escarp
hmm so when u watch something u copy its properties
what if u stared at neal's username
that way you would get his property of being the developer of infinite craft, and u could now fix the validation endpoint
chilly fulcrum
Try Germany + Unicode
I’m pretty sure that makes a mojibake for ß
unless I remember wrong
echo wasp
yes it does
chilly fulcrum
give F0 a go
echo wasp
I hope I don't wake up to see every control gotten
chilly fulcrum
if all goes well you should get tons of 9F
echo wasp
what do I even do with f0
chilly fulcrum
Same as with the a
echo wasp
I already have f0shy
echo wasp
I already have f0shy
and when I did the decode thing it gave a mathematical d
chilly fulcrum
f0shy isn’t a valid utf-8 sequence
echo wasp
what is
trim pond
what about making existing words and appending ã[?][?] to it, then trying to remove the word in hopes that the ai will leave the controls?
example:
echo wasp
wait have you posted a recipe for them or was I blind
chilly fulcrum
to see if it changes the accents
trim pond
wait have you posted a recipe for them or was I blind
not for the appends
echo wasp
"change the accent"
chilly fulcrum
f0shy isn’t a valid utf-8 sequence
please don’t use shy either - not necessary and you can’t even see it lol
echo wasp
alright I'm using shy
chilly fulcrum
even nbsp is better
sage wren
nongebob squarepants
chilly fulcrum
banned
echo wasp
even nbsp is better
we can't even get it
chilly fulcrum
well we couldn’t get shy either for ages so I don’t see the difference
if nbsp was isolatable I bet we’d have it
echo wasp
well we couldn’t get shy either for ages so I don’t see the difference
wdym
we dont even have nbsp in a single element 💀
chilly fulcrum
Was the same for shy until we tried harder
heady escarp
"The Cc control characters have no Name in Unicode, but are given labels such as "<control-001A>" instead."
What if u guys tried to get <control-xxx> where xxx is the name of it
chilly fulcrum
oh true there was the mojibaked one
heady escarp
what is nbsp
echo wasp
00a0
chilly fulcrum
non breaking space
sage wren
what is nbsp
nongebob squarepants dont listen to rubiksliar
heady escarp
ok
chilly fulcrum
Nablespoon
heady escarp
"The Cc control characters have no Name in Unicode, but are given labels such as...
do u guys think this is a stupid idea
abstract marsh
its not stupid if it works
heady escarp
well no one has tried it
sonic heart
031c
abstract marsh
then prove it if its stupid ot useful
heady escarp
i dont even have any elements with < or > idk how to get this element
chilly fulcrum
1e900 or something
abstract marsh
damn aight
chilly fulcrum
alright I'm using shy
Try pilcrow
Combining with emojis and other things above 10000 also might nudge it into putting a control
echo wasp
Try pilcrow
give me a sample of 4 chara
echo wasp
you mean a valid utf-8?
just give me a string of 4 thay could work
heady escarp
idea - getting names of control characters, like:
Control Character LF, Control Character DEL
etc
echo wasp
I already got stuff like End Of Transmission
it does nothing
oh and LF isn't possible
heady escarp
oh and LF isn't possible
idk what LF means i just picked a random namei found on wikipedia
echo wasp
Line Feed iirc
heady escarp
"A special character condensing the abbreviation: Unicode U+2407 (␇), "symbol for bell""
what about characters like this
maybe they would be useful
echo wasp
those aren't gonna help, I mashed them quite a lot last time
it knows what all of them are but it hates giving them
heady escarp
"Some control characters have also been called "format effectors"."
what about getting Format Effector
echo wasp
idk you try
heady escarp
what about getting small numbers like this
slate whale
ya
heady escarp
i sent a screenshot cuz when i copied it it came out as normal sized numbers when i pasted it
chilly fulcrum
That’s specifying base 10
heady escarp
oh
echo wasp
the issue is that the game hates giving controls like that, from my experience
slate whale
nul
echo wasp
but at least we know 0004 5 6 8 are possible
chilly fulcrum
just give me a string of 4 thay could work
is there a problem with the formula I provided? Oh well anyway; f0 a9 a2 b0 is one example
echo wasp
oh no issue
chilly fulcrum
Ah yeah that’s the classic Nothing problem
sonic heart
031d
neat haven
not going for it but U+0004 End Of Transmission going to be hell
heady escarp
look at this super cool recipe!11
heady escarp
look at this super cool recipe!11
i think this is more random than poseidon recipes lol
trim pond
i think the % is the culprit here
echo wasp
gl lol, prolly won't work but eh
tepid blaze
not going for it but `U+0004 End Of Transmission` going to be hell
well + = (just need 0001 and 0003 to get it )
neat haven
very clear explanation
slate whale
also for who ever tried this, i revived this
echo wasp
not going for it but `U+0004 End Of Transmission` going to be hell
the character?
neat haven
i mean the element U+0004 End Of Transmission not the character
echo wasp
very clear explanation
indeed
heady escarp
lol why did format give {0}
echo wasp
the ai does know what 0004 is
it gave me End of Transmission when I did stuff with 0004 lol
neat haven
soft hyphen flashbacks
echo wasp
oh yeah...
sonic heart
031e
echo wasp
is nbsp a banned output or what
sage wren
no nongebob squarepants isnt banned,,
echo wasp
-_-
trim pond
;Q;
sonic heart
0320
heady escarp
"Some control characters have also been called "format effectors"."
what about g...
i got it and tested it and i think Format Effector does literally nothing
trim pond
omfg my heartrate
sonic heart
wow
abstract marsh
omfg my heartrate
i thought you had seizures
turn out its too much caffeine
sonic heart
control chars getting added to the sheet when
trim pond
ok let me make the lineage
sonic heart
0323
trim pond
omg but it is gonna be long
sonic heart
💀
echo wasp
omfg my heartrate
ONFG
heady escarp
omfg my heartrate
what the hell
echo wasp
Congrats !
heady escarp
first person to ever get a control character by itself?
echo wasp
yes
heady escarp
🥳
echo wasp
first person to ever get a control character by itself?
ok more like one with a confirmed recipe
guys why is 0002 now alive
wtf
echo wasp
like what
heady escarp
guys why is 0002 now alive
how can u know that
echo wasp
I just added it in then combined it with stuff
heady escarp
why would u do that and also yeah why is it alive
echo wasp
like last time I checked 0002 wasn't obtained...
echo wasp
hey at least we have gotten 008d legitimately
trim pond
maybe the person who got 0001 is doing that
tepid blaze
like last time I checked 0002 wasn't obtained...
yep, it didn't exist
heady escarp
what if theres a way to make elements u cheated in alive
abstract marsh
question would be, when the bull started touching controls
tepid blaze
yep, it didn't exist
i did touch controls a lot tbh, but didn't obtain 0002 too, but rn i was focused on adding recipe for everything from 2FFDF to 2FFFF in my db
echo wasp
yeah samw
heady escarp
has neal responded to that twitter dm?
abstract marsh
my brain swapped has and neal
echo wasp
has neal responded to that twitter dm?
no
heady escarp
my brain swapped has and neal
i added a question mark
echo wasp
omg but it is gonna be long
Well it's a control so it doesn't matter
abstract marsh
i added a question mark
ok, someone secretly ate it
oh you added
heady escarp
guys why is 0002 now alive
what if the person who revived it also revived other ones
echo wasp
oh well since 0002 was "found" I'm gonna touch the controls till I find a recipe for it
heady escarp
"im gonna touch the controls"
echo wasp
Idt it'll give any other controls tho
heady escarp
caught in 4k hd
echo wasp
ok maybe combining 0001 with random stuff might increment it? idk
heady escarp
dont do that
echo wasp
why
tepid blaze
ok maybe combining 0001 with random stuff might increment it? idk
i did try that a lot to try to get 0002
heady escarp
we dont have a recipe for u+0001 why would we combine it with anything
echo wasp
cuz I just want a recipe for 0002
tepid blaze
i did try that a lot to try to get 0002
most of the time just returned the thing i combined it with, or if it was with a unicode character sometime it did increment the unicode character it was combined with
trim pond
like out of curiosity I thought taht maybe combining with the same word but with normal letters would replace it and it worked
also it was quite hard separating the 2 controls
like remove first/last mr. etc. didn't work (or at least not what I tried)
heady escarp
U+008d - U+0090 start at bottom right
how do u get that Mr. "\a(square)(square)" thing at the top
fuck i didnt look to the right\
i didnt see theres a lineage for it
trim pond
yeah I ran out of space
and I didn't have space to the left so
this lineage could probably be simplified. like replacing the a much sooner
so you probably wouldn't even need the string.appends
echo wasp
can't be me
tepid blaze
oh wait pilcrow sign incremented 0001 to 0002
cool so ```
+ ¶ = 0002
+ = 0003
+ = 0004
+ = 0005
+ = 0006
+ = 0008
So is 0002 your fault or not
sonic heart
imagine if some random dude that isnt even in the server accidentally found those
tepid blaze
imagine if some random dude that isnt even in the server accidentally found thos...
if its really that, can someone send the CIA or the FBI to this dude house? cause it would be legit crazy
sage wren
imagine if some random dude that isnt even in the server accidentally found thos...
its true, tzeuf was the first discoverer of them
heady escarp
wtf is this
echo wasp
U+008d - U+0090 start at bottom right
I might go for 0081 / 0084
trim pond
I might go for 0081 / 0084
yeah I extracted the 8d. idk how to extract the 81 from that
timid sierra
its 29 characters and 12 tokens
uppercase XSS
heady escarp
no
it doesnt combine with anything
a dead element that just has wrong capitalization always tries to combine for a fraction of a second before failing
timid sierra
it doesnt combine with anything
Yeah, it's deat because it contains a uppercase XSS in the middle
heady escarp
here it doesnt even try to combine, this is different
heady escarp
why???
tepid blaze
cloudflare
echo wasp
yeah I extracted the 8d. idk how to extract the 81 from that
holy shit
heady escarp
its under 21 tokens and under 31 characters
echo wasp
I may have gotten sth
graceful marsh
Cloudflare don't care
heady escarp
cloudflare
is there a list of elements that are dead cuz of that?
trim pond
I may have gotten sth
yeah?
tepid blaze
is there a list of elements that are dead cuz of that?
could probably make a list yeah, already if your thing have <script> its sure dead
heady escarp
could probably make a list yeah, already if your thing have <script> its sure de...
oh ok <script> means rip oof gg
tepid blaze
not only that
heady escarp
do u know if theres other stuff that force-kill elements
trim pond
I manged to remove the ã
nice
timid sierra
this to gives 403
tepid blaze
oh ok <script> means rip oof gg
well some exemple: #1233405406265610260 message
heady escarp
this to gives 403
but this doesnt really have <script> the backslash is between < and script
echo wasp
graceful marsh
but this doesnt really have <script> the backslash is between < and script
Also banned
heady escarp
Also banned
is <script> and </script> hardcoded to be banned
trim pond
niceeee. did you use manha?
echo wasp
yea
graceful marsh
Not hardcoded, that would imply Neal did it
heady escarp
can u increment it
graceful marsh
But yes, CF blocks it
sage wren
Not *hardcoded*, that would imply Neal did it
so it must be softcoded then
graceful marsh
Neither
heady escarp
ur mom is soft coded
graceful marsh
Mushcoded
echo wasp
ok 86 - 8c all gotten
graceful marsh
Nice
echo wasp
ill send the recipe
tepid blaze
could probably make a list yeah, already if your thing have <script> its sure de...
there is also this thing that does give a 403 (but if you remove some specific parts it isn't blocked) #1233405406265610260 message
heady escarp
there is also this thing that does give a 403 (but if you remove some specific p...
bro wtf isnt tht from xkcd
how can it be banned its a joke
graceful marsh
Because it's a joke that would work?
heady escarp
also i wanna make a page on technical ic wiki about this, should i just call it Cloudfare
heady escarp
Because it's a joke that would work?
what does it do
heady escarp
also i wanna make a page on technical ic wiki about this, should i just call it ...
do i just call them dead elements
banned elements doesnt make sense since u can get them
abstract marsh
imagine deleting neal's database IC using infinite craft crafting
sage wren
imagine deleting neal's database IC using infinite craft crafting
oh yes, little bobby tables, we call him.
trim pond
hm.. could you technically make an element longer than 30 chars and still delete it? hm... but at that point, wouldn't it be deleted when you made that element??
heady escarp
Due to Cloudfare, some elements are dead and unrevivable, even if they meet the 30 characters limit. Here is a list of known strings that cause elements to be killed by Cloudfare:
<script>
</script>
alert()
Robert'); DROP TABLE Students;--
is there anything else other than these few things that cloudfare kills
echo wasp
Start from "ã"
Recipe for that in reply.
Recipe for U+0086 to U+008c:
Mr. "ã" + "the Mr. Append ' " = Mr. Append "ã"
Mr. Append "ã" + Mr. String.append("") = Mr. String.append("ã")
Mr. String.append("ã") + "0manh" = "0manhã"
"0manhã" + Delete The 0 = "manhã"
"manhã" + "0manha" = "0manha"
"0manha" + Remove First Character = "manha"
"manha" + Remove First Character = "ha"
"ha" + Remove First Character = ""
"" + #string.decodeuri = ""
"" + "hi Mr. ' " = "hi Mr. "
hi Mr. " + Remove The Mr. = "hi "
"hi " + Remove The Word Hi = ```uhh i hope i didn't type anything wrong
abstract marsh
imma play mancala
tepid blaze
Due to Cloudfare, some elements are dead and unrevivable, even if they meet the ...
alert() is alive
heady escarp
oh but someone linked a message here
#1233405406265610260 message
what does 403 mean
tepid blaze
yes, but if you put something before (not everything make it blocked) then its blocked
graceful marsh
So "alert(10) is blocked then?
graceful marsh
Ah right
heady escarp
Due to Cloudfare, some elements are dead and unrevivable, even if they meet the 30 characters limit. Here is a list of known strings that cause elements to be killed by Cloudfare:
<script>
</script>
Robert'); DROP TABLE Students;--
alert() - alert() by itself is alive, but an element with anything before it (such as ?alert() or -alert() is killed by Cloudfare.
tepid blaze
?alert() isn't blocked
heady escarp
wait what
graceful marsh
What about <b onmouseover?
heady escarp
is there a list of characters before alert() that kill it
graceful marsh
Or would the = be requisite under CF?
tepid blaze
is there a list of characters before alert() that kill it
well im trying a lot of them, here is the one i have for the moment: #1206592567622373446 message
heady escarp
Due to Cloudfare, some elements are dead and unrevivable, even if they meet the 30 characters limit. Here is a list of known strings that cause elements to be killed by Cloudfare:
<script>
</script>
Robert'); DROP TABLE Students;--
alert() - alert() by itself is alive, but elements with some characters before it, mainly -alert(), 'alert(), "alert(), ,alert(), ;alert(), (alert(), )alert() - are killed by Cloudfare.
graceful marsh
Chr() too
sage wren
Due to Cloudfare, some elements are dead and unrevivable, even if they meet the ...
"cloudfare"
heady escarp
Due to Cloudfare, some elements are dead and unrevivable, even if they meet the 30 characters limit. Here is a list of known strings that cause elements to be killed by Cloudfare:
<script>
</script>
Robert'); DROP TABLE Students;--
Chr()
alert() - alert() by itself is alive, but elements with some characters before it, mainly -alert(), 'alert(), "alert(), ,alert(), ;alert(), (alert(), )alert() - are killed by Cloudfare.
aded Chr()
heady escarp
"cloudfare"
?
heady escarp
what are u trying to say
heady escarp
where
sage wren
literally every mention of cloudflare
echo wasp
lol
heady escarp
i fixed it
graceful marsh
Floudclare
heady escarp
Due to Cloudfare, some elements are dead and unrevivable, even if they meet the ...
can someone explain how robert drop table students gets banned
like the reason its banned is cuz of those '); and ;-- right
tepid blaze
sql injection (so cloudflare block it)
heady escarp
like the reason its banned is cuz of those '); and ;-- right
would the element Hello'); Unicoders;-- be also banned
sage wren
whenever i see the word sql i just think of the word 'aql ..
heady escarp
sql injection (so cloudflare block it)
real
heady escarp
would the element Hello'); Unicoders;-- be also banned
but this would be banned right?
graceful marsh
Well let's check
tepid blaze
but this would be banned right?
no
trim pond
Start from `"ã"`
Recipe for that in reply.
Recipe for U+0086 to U+008c:
```"ã...
gj, but wow the 0manha is completely same as mine. and Next Cyrillic Letter increments it as well
graceful marsh
Because the important part is DROP
heady escarp
would the element Hello'); DROP;-- be banned then
echo wasp
gj, but wow the 0manha is completely same as mine. and Next Cyrillic Letter incr...
yeah ig it is very consistent
I wasn't expecting it to work out perfectly, that's for sure
tepid blaze
isn't it more DROP TABLE ?
graceful marsh
Technically you can DROP other stuff no?
echo wasp
yeah ig it is very consistent
I wasn't expecting it to work out perfectly, that...
gonna try to extract 0096
tepid blaze
would the element Hello'); DROP;-- be banned then
it isn't
echo wasp
ye I also couldn't
heady escarp
so then is Hello;); DROP TABLE;-- be banned
tepid blaze
yep
heady escarp
what about just '); DROP TABLE ;--
graceful marsh
Oh wait I'm misremembering my SQL
heady escarp
or does something need to be in place of the hello
is Hello');DROPTABLE;-- banned
it has no spaces
tepid blaze
nop
graceful marsh
That function wouldn't work
tepid blaze
the space is important for it to work
tepid blaze
blocked
tepid blaze
whatever you put instead of the hello will change nothing
graceful marsh
Actually can you test CREATE TABLE fuezt?
tepid blaze
Actually can you test CREATE TABLE fuezt?
isn't blocked as Hello');CREATE TABLE;--
tepid blaze
Well maybe you need a table name
yeah i wasn't directly thinking fully about that, i am watching something on tv at the same time
graceful marsh
Fair enough
heady escarp
the table name is Students
trim pond
gonna try to extract 0096
it may make your job easier, but you can do something like this if you get Mr. "axx"
tepid blaze
isn't blocked as `Hello');CREATE TABLE;--`
yeah creation also blocked (but idk to which point, just tested ```
CREATE TABLE test_table (id INT PRIMARY KEY, name VARCHAR(50), age INT);
Figures
echo wasp
it may make your job easier, but you can do something like this if you get Mr. "...
oo ok
trim pond
hm but you still need to put it in quotation marks. there at the end
graceful marsh
Although now I think about it is CF logging your IP as an XSS attacker if it blocks requests from you too many times?
trim pond
oh you can combine it with "hi " and then remove the first characters.
tepid blaze
Although now I think about it is CF logging your IP as an XSS attacker if it blo...
nah, i can do other request without any problem
sonic heart
032b ("labiodental-approximant" in discord search)
echo wasp
im havin timeout - it just me
heady escarp
from ic?
echo wasp
ok looks like it is after savio posted that
sonic heart
im havin timeout - it just me
im not having any problems
sage wren
U+032B killed asd's infinite craft
sonic heart
lol
graceful marsh
If it's a proper outage I need to get the test kit ready
tepid blaze
nah, i can do other request without any problem
if we follow logic, anything that can lead to a xss/sql attack is blocked
sonic heart
U+032B killed asd's infinite craft
thats why it has this emoji 😬
heady escarp
If it's a proper outage I need to get the test kit ready
no i can combine stuff its not an outage
sand coral
0E19
sonic heart
032c
heady escarp
does this mean anything
echo wasp
manha doesn't work for 0096 lol
trim pond
manha doesn't work for 0096 lol
well you have to find something else then. i mean technically it doesn't even have to be a valid word
echo wasp
yeah im trying
trim pond
i used manha because at first I wanted to translate it so
sonic heart
so far I had no luck with the spanish words
manhã is portuguese ;-;
heady escarp
what about the element Portuguese To English
or Translate To English
or something then
heady escarp
how did u get it
i mean which element did u use to add combining diacritical mark
ik its dead but i wanna know
tepid blaze
sonic heart
i mean which element did u use to add combining diacritical mark
0328
trim pond
manhã is portuguese ;-;
right.. I didn't realize it was Portuguese. I was just searching for words ending with ã
heady escarp
ok
sand coral
U+11305 fixed
heady escarp
what if theres some word like abcã thats a real portuguese/another language word, and theres also a real english word abca
trim pond
and the other words were spanish so I didn't look much into that one
heady escarp
what if theres some word like abcã thats a real portuguese/another language word...
there probably arent words like that but if there are, it might work better
trim pond
there probably is?? like a lot of words in english are borrowed from other languages.
sonic heart
what if theres some word like abcã thats a real portuguese/another language word...
anã to Ana?
heady escarp
anã to Ana?
is ana a real english word
sonic heart
its a name
echo wasp
yes