#Unicode
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Well they are obtained but the elements needed for this might not be obtained
actually its + , make me think i should add a button to copy the recipe
Good message to future you
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Damn 5 chars
that's what i do too as a last resort
(assuming that token limit allows for it)
imagine if neal was the one who got x01 x03 and x07
what does 500 and 403 mean?
when you try to combine a specific element? 403 (probably blocked by cloudflare (exemple: Chr() , <script> )) and 500 depend
403 is when the api sees the request but just doesnt return any answer (Nothing not included)
did not want to make this but I like it
Recipe?
Planning to try use 0x?
I mostly like experimenting to see if the tools work
they give emojis a lot for some reason
the AI can be really stupid
bruh
I won’t add them to the sheet, because even Unicode themselves don’t count them in the relevant subtotal
It would be like adding noncharacters or PUA
Ű+xxxx
I remember when variants of u was the meta
anywhere i can see if neal responded, or can only kali know?
i thought it was Ü+ not Ű+
but it turns out all we were doing was just triggering the "random generic symbols" mode
which happens when you use a generic or nonspecific tool thats weak, or you use a strong tool outside its useful range
it spits out random 2xxx, 1dxxx, 1fxxx
dude why is it like impossible to get 0291 ;-;
literally the entire range from 18000-1afff: 💀
"hi Seq. " pyramid
random blue tongue lizard chilling in our backyard
lol
Nextb
?
i have fd on that
i was looking at the element bar and thought it was a funny element there
literally none of these worked
if ʋ (028b) wasnt a lowercase char then i would try more seq. stuff
arent these all lowercase
the game treats them as uppercase
idfk what to try anymore
LATIN SMALL LETTER Z WITH CURL
you know how you tried stuff like labiodental and whatnot
whatever that is, but for this
no need to scream it !
did not work
I have always wondered why the unicode name for stuff is written in all caps though, feels unneeded ..
the issue is you used the wrong adjective clearly
its alveolo-palatal not alveopalatal,,
yeah but it still says it regardless !
cant hurt to try
Or maybe it does hurt, the elements could cause an uprising at any time.
too long btw
then dont have quotes silly
"voiced-alveopalatal-sibilant" is just barely within limit
i dont wanna
scaredy cat
you do it
best best is to try without hyphens
its how i got mathematical operators unicode
which would be way too long with that strategy
ah ok
anyways cya i have to go to bed
oof
damn you have way more ipa tools than me
hey imma come back and tryhard japanese does anyone have an idea for a meta to use to reduce 2-3 kanji long items to one kanji in it
in other words a way to delete characters out of a quote or better, enquote anything
i could try getting Kanji in japanese in quotes
and see what it does with enquoted english words
Sapporo said this #1207986228457111573 message
from what ive seen in hangul and cjk, combining quoted english with standard cjk tools like kanji, chinese, cimplified chinese (all written in their language) and then removing characters with deletes and removes is the play
if you want to do one at a time like that
what specifically you trying rn?
a block or just whatever you think of?
add a new section for controls
I was thinking of using town names but also random words work idfk
I'll probably try to get all the core 2000
what quoted English
The 2000 most common kanji
unquoted works
example:
anyway U+5F35, U+912D, U+9127
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1S_vhMdOfvKx3ronn8a6Xo7iY0x-pmjDYj-mdJejFGvM/edit?gid=0#gid=0
yubari is here
i'll need the recipe to "[/inst]"
But tomorrow. 4am here im just procrastinating sleeping
you got a list of what those 2000 are?
i can check which we have
feel free to restructure the tools page maybe can split into general tools first like inst and whatnot, then more specific tools im ok with that
i didnt protect it for a reason cause i think you guys can decide what to put
iirc its in optimisheet
yeah it is, but we should still add it or a general tools section, idk if we do any visual lineages, i think visual is for guide if we ever do it
@chilly fulcrum my bad core 2000 is just an anki deck name
I guess i'll do the Jōyō then
the what
The jōyō kanji (常用漢字, Japanese pronunciation: [dʑoːjoːkaꜜɲdʑi], lit. "regular-use kanji") are those kanji listed on the Jōyō kanji hyō (常用漢字表, literally "list of regular-use kanji"), officially announced by the Japanese Ministry of Education. The current list of 2,136 characters was issued in 2010. It is a slightly modified version of the tōyō k...
okay
The jōyō kanji (常用漢字, Japanese pronunciation: [dʑoːjoːkaꜜɲdʑi], lit. "regular-use kanji") system of representing written Japanese currently consists of 2,136 characters.
we got codepoints for em?
U+91E7 (my friend nathan is sitting next to me)
k, make sure we get lineage for kushiro
all the cities are here https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1S_vhMdOfvKx3ronn8a6Xo7iY0x-pmjDYj-mdJejFGvM/edit?gid=0#gid=0
okay, need to specify on sheet cause obv if you dont the people wont know that
Ill sleep for real
Nini yall
Will try to do stuff tomorrow if minecraft doesnt distract me once again
okay, gn (i wish my tz lined up better with you guys)
im at school lol
australia is good for eastern asia and new zezland ig
and also roughlt 10am is europe night
link to that sheet is fine
yw
idk if this has beenadded
you dont know? well you could check/add it unless i dont understand u lol
u+8328https://ib.zptr.cc/item/01j5cqbhk8fb9bg0d5gz6wwjwk
too lazy to make visual lineage
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true
youre playing... in school?
(def not in school rn)
yes 😏
Stop making me feel old ; ;
its like the only time i get to play because i do jtoh at home : )
you what
#1255371386076004352
these two things (U+8FFD, U+8DE1)
oh cool, been trying to do such a thing for so long
and i have a lot of 0x
i got an element with two spaces in a row but its dead, are elements with two spaces in a row made dead on purpose?
ok
cool
when Validation Endpoint will be fixed (totally valid UTC)
I am willing to put down 7 billion dollars on never
didn’t realise we had a billionaire here
Nah I'm going into super debt if I fail
Yeah but with 1 billion dollars I can already pay Neal to not fix it
guys i found a irl revival bug:
- commit serious crime
- die before cops arrest you
- cops arrest you and put you in prison for life
- in the prison for life, your dead body gets a life (you get revived!)
please tell neal to fix this revival bug, its very OP and game breaking 😡
Fix what
The Validation Endpoint
and why would you want to pay neal
has neal fricking responded
@nealagarwal Hey neal! I'm Kali, an Infinite Craft player and moderator for the discord
This is gonna be a long thread so i'm gonna say in advance that i'll try my best to explain the situation we have and how we need your help, but if it's unclear, a voice chat on discord (1/?)
1/? is priceless
the list is now a bit outdated too (#1206592567622373446 message)
imagine if i dig around my files and find it
I would attempt to kill you
imagine it was bugged otuput
somehow some kind of undefined behaviour or super deep bug/hardware failure somehow caused the output to get sent as U+0001 even tho it was something else originally
stuck bit 💀
super mario 64 cosmic ray
(stuck bit)
thats why u+0001 is alive!111
cosmic ray speedrun mentioned 🗣️
damn, wow how am i so blind. let me make U+18001 rq
remember fake Nothing...
what if.... some of them successfully created those
well nvm
Made some screenshots of fd’s and the one character ones
for one character one, preferably you shared the lineage as well on how you got it, so it can get added into the spreadsheet ( check pins )
Sorry already asked in help and here a few days a go I can not download helper script and not use inspect so I do not know the recipe but people said is should still post it
Didn’t Neal post smth about making a function so you can see the recipe?
more like helper script
inspect element or install helper or find out what the recipe was
That was several months ago
Or somehow read local storage
In help I explained that I can not use helper script
and you can’t inspect element with f12?
What is that on chrome?
The same
Or ctrl+shift+i if your keyboard doesn't register it properly
well f12 is how I open console but I think control shift I for inspect element
Then you have to dig around for what you actually found
Brutal I know
that or we ask nata where the file is stored
cause there is a save file
probably in app data
Nothing happens when I click inspect because it is blocked
Ah
well I am sorry but there may not be anything you can do ; ;
Still some options tho
Thank you for being so helpful
If inspect is blocked I think localstorage access would be too
have to try at least
does that mean console too?
Where do find local storage on ic
Okey I will look around
i looked around me, i saw air and light 🗣️
I will try to ask my school if I can download one chrome extension
quite possibly, worst case would be, screenshot all elements you had gotten sorted by time 😭, quite the challenge but its possible to crack the combinations
Okey should I post them here
before I had helper I wrote every recipe 💀
It is around 300 elements I think
ah, thats much simpler then
The useful ones
oh
💀
I am talking about the elements in Sanskrit
yeah that’s a problem
300 in your entire save is already near the edge but 300 Sanskrit? it might be that you have to reconstruct the route
I also have Arab Dutch Hebrew Japanese and Chinese elements I think and Linear A and B
I mean you got that far without helper so… could you maybe reconstruct it?
did u combine sanskrit with other sanskrit elements to get those single character fds?
(Odds are they aren’t single characters)
Yes and with normal letters I think
if we could just let jon used a portable script ( only run once )
we might be able to access all the element without recipes
idk 😭
Idk have to ask mika or yui or something for workarounds for Chromebook they’d be ones to figure it out
Okay thanks I will take some photos is it okey if I post them now
Photos of what
I mean you can, but they aren’t useful unless we know what is actually found
more info is always good
if you found some recipe then send it
if its obtainable
then we might get it with common unicode tools as well...
just kinda tricky
(We should make a Chromebook friendly IC where it just uses api and the recipe text is on screen)
heck even make the webpage just only characters lol
What do you mean
joke suggestion
Ok sorry I did not get the joke
but you do not know recipe? or do you know
No now I am experimenting to get the first symbols
We know how to make those already from the sheet, it is the new ones that are important
Oh oké
Smth else it would be really helpful a chrome friendly helper that does not use chrome extension I made my 10000 elements on my own with a few recipes I googled and sometimes Reddit
You mean looking if I have the elements on the sheet and if that are ingriedients of the fd’s
what if....
#1206592567622373446 message
small letter z with curl
this can be done if we like make an actual other website
or a locally usable HTML or something
Who on this discord in capppabole of that
mika and yui
Where can I ask them
dev perhaps
Okay what should I post ( I am not that expierineced in English and discord)
which is not possible
?
CORS will prevent you from using the api from other websites
you can host a proxy that takes data from neal's api but that requires a server
it was done with code by star though without the use of any kind of browser from what I could tell
and even then it'd be limited to 2 requests/s for every user
i see
Is it worth it trying to recreate the recipe for this element
And it couldn’t send the request to the Neal.fun tab to be performed could it?
nah
Yeah - although if we can know what it is visually we might be able to get around it
Do you mean what the symbol is called and how to type it?
yeah
more importantly if it is actually a symbol
Like one character
Sanskrit is very deceptive
things that look like one character are usually not
emojis do this too
well the problem is it’s not
unless that recipe is very very old what you have there is not eta
We found eta long ago
Check console it might help
can’t
ctrl shift i
can’t
why can't
Can’t
It is a eta
it looks like eta
I copied it and it finds the element
I think around may?
I see, well in that case it probably is eta then
Okay
and probably an easier one too - but if you don’t have recipe don’t bother
We have a reasonable route anyway
I found a part
Sure go ahead
not bad, if we can get Bn of course
It is Beta 😹::💀
It was a joke
I’m talking about the eta
we found it a long time ago so it’s fine
how old are the other stuff
If they’re old then it’s very likely we have them by now too
Sanskrit is about 4 months old i thinks
did you not know about this place back then?
a long time ago indeed
A other question is 10000 elements much in in infinite craft player terms
what now?
god that must have been so hard
for non helper? Absolutely
When I found about helper I deleted my save with 40,000 recipes and started again
Thanks that is why I would really like to have helper
nothing we can do
And Learn the meta
💀
i had like 3500 items or smth before helper
good sign
should i combine it with all of my unicode stuff?
you should unquote it or hashtag it or whatever
Make variants
one tool isn’t enough
also occasionally I’ve found that “the append U+xxxx” upon trying to remove the quotes makes “the append {the actual char}” lol
hm
didnt work
what did it do though I’m curious
So there will never be a possible way I can use helper or find back recipes unless I get access to to chrome extensions so I can use helper?
never is a very strong word
there are likely a myriad of ways around the restrictions
it either made just Append or Append U+0291 (which i already had)
but idk if anyone here is expert but than again Mika or yui know how to solve problems
What are there @
also idk if hashtagging it is gonna be the easiest thing
happens sometimes
variants then, add a letter or rebuild it with a misspelling or dots instead of hyphens
Curly it mr it etc etc gotta try it all
I’ll try rn
how did you get there
very useful
got a few things.. trying to make it curl rn
dude why
Wait you can optimize it like that? (this I mean #1206592567622373446 message)
did you try combining the small letter z with curl with the sibilant stuff
i think its new
also
I think Ill not try anymore getting U+1440.., got
100 recipes for ᐊ, 63 for 𐐀 and 59 for ᐁ but not for the one I want 💀 , but if anybody got any idea what should I try I can make it
didnt work
i did have a go too
lmao
damn i got U+0292'd as well
lmao mine is 443 steps and it has this to say about it
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https://ib.zptr.cc/item/01j5dhfgzdwm16re8402q6m27n ok so im at here
hmm
with period with comma above
definitely how combining characters work
combining comma above?? clearly real
(greek psili)
i may need some of ur tools
idk if they were sent
which ones do you need
whatever is not in this picture
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Ipa Extensions Unic: https://infinibrowser.zptr.cc/item/01j5dkmxa1w8b2neytxt9v9g0t
Ipa Extensions Unicode: https://infinibrowser.zptr.cc/item/01j5dkn6syazee6rb3afj53dra
Ipa Unicode Extensions: Ipa Extensions + Ipa Unicode
Convert Ipa Unicode: "the Convert Tol Ipa Unicode" + Delete The The
A940
tolipan sound like weird bug no one knows
i see
how do i delete the brackets or the v lol
how do you remove the l
why is it even inside that brackets
ipa
maybe try a half quote
like half quote it
then see if it lets you put it inside something where its easier to remove stuff
like "a or "..a
or anything with half a quote
combine it
it will close the quote
trust
"g" + Prepend Colon has been quite nice recently
Oh yeah that
The tendency to close quotes and continue prompt like input makes me think it’s in “complete the sentence” mode
what if we also collected these long character names
I’ve got a few names but none with Latin as the first one
semantically I have loads of Letter G With Breve And Grave for example
i have a lot of those from bruteforcing
dead versions from trying to make 03xx a lot too but basically the seed is E + French grave accent
and this then starts to explode into all those elements semantically
flexing these 2 fds
also what if we got (language name) letter for like every language
Also this is > 30 so what was recipe in the end
if you want, make a sheet lol
ha nice
latin letter can make these long names when combined with some stuff
well you are welcome to try, but names aren’t the goal in this thread (unless they help of course)
but like if i randomly had a name, there could be a place to share it
You could make one
FBC0
Actually I think we should draft you to the Tangut mines
btw we should have a progress message in the pins for convenience that we update from time to time, so that you don’t have to open the sheet to see
or just a progress milestones message
can someone explain the seq. strat to me
Get Seq. [Ordered string of 3-4 characters before a 3f, 7f or bf barrier]
Use Next Letter and friends
Check if you've broken barrier
If necessary remove Seq.
(Optionally enquote the string)
Remove all other characters
You have now barrier broken
6328
Speaking of which ASD did we get the final of the 17xxx chunk yet?
Can we manually get to 18000?
btw since ive been away for a while
did yall break the barriers in those chinese symbols i forgot how they're called
something grams
Taixuanjing?
taixuanjing yea
i heard from Sapporo this is very useful to enquote stuff
I also want 100$
mb, i ate em
No my money!
it works exactly the same as "alphabet. I never needed "..a
"..x" + ! + 'a + !a + !a = "..a
like this, if just inst doesn't work
6627
is there a link to the entire "..a" alphabet
i dont have x
Bonus under "alphabet"
Although I'm not quite sure backtickphabet is necessary
Regardless
Sorry not "bonus" as in Bonus I meant extensions to "alphabet"
I mixed the labels around
fine ill make my own
only 0000 0009 000a 000b 000c 000d are unobtainable controls (at least when isolated)
right?
ughh
try "hi " / "hi <" / "hi Mr. " / "hi Mr. <" + Delete First Word
Not "hi Mr. " right?
Cause you'll get dead "Mr. {x}" if it succeeds?
uhm, no?
other two i dont have
Guess I've been using it wrong then
"hi Mr. " + < or + Less Than
okay progress
Guess I've just been unlucky then
not a lot has changed it look like
this works as well
oh we already have it
i dont care i found a strat using this method
beautiful
ignore the useless inst step i forgot
doesnt matter anyway we already have 66D6
at least this one isn't hard to fix
i think thats me
thats my style of notes
wait nvm it uses items i dont have
awesome
Oh?
One got fixed and a new one got added
Interesting
Can you check Next Codepoint with ꗗ
ꗟ
oh god i didn't see how many thing i had to add (and later on probably do chains in them too, since this is what i got during CJK scrapping so far 💀)
no no, just thing i got during scrapping, that i will need to add to the sheet
What about ꗗ + ꗖ Fuezt?
@chilly fulcrum btw one of your stuff is undocumented i think?
ꗘ
There we go
Okay fixing now
Done
Do you remove those manually or do they change when you redownload the sheets?
my program re download the sheet, and then check again for invalid recipe, so its automatic
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#1206592567622373446 message
Next Random Script Unicode (for future searchers)
extremely rare infinite craft vc
also tysm
Fuezt can you check 䱝 + Next Codepoint?
As for the other ones I'll just let the original finders fix
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COULD THE OWNERS OF THESE VEHICLES PLEASE COME TO THE FRONT DESK
U+4C5E, U+603E, U+8FAE, U+30C8B, U+30D74
LMAO
Wait why are the police here
the fire department is here too ig
i have none of them ✨
well police is here because of the cars (totally reasonable reason to be here)
There are so many firetrucks
there a fire at the car dealer
The damn firemen are aiming the wrong way
did you try "..a
yes
put it in Mr. and then use Mr. " " maybe
well not everyone is smart in this world (even if it would have been better in this case)
Anyone remember where the big Natasquare file is with the CJK tests
i get stuck there all the time
I think two of the bad ones are from it
also dont mind the extra kanji that got added for 0 reason
;-;
Not like from it from it I mean whoever put them in mistyped
i dont have Mr. " " btw
#1206592042306900049 message
the 3xxxx are in ntsq's recipes
I mistyped, I suppose
I can't find either in the file I have
Ah, okay
Okay
603e is straight-up in the wrong place (that's a recipe for 623e)
Fixed
cant mr. it and Mr. " " didnt do anything on the ones i have
im losing it
hmm
what happened to ur pfp
Okay 30c8b fixed
im William Howard Taft
Still looking for the owners of U+4C5E, U+8FAE and U+30D74
You could join them
wait is 30d74 not in the txt file
i am trying to get U+00ed what do i do when this happens
One of yours actually
I used U-xxxx lol
ooh maybe I entered that part the chain wrongly or sth
well idt I can check it rn
it was a very painful process : )
how can u possibly type a character thats not on ur keyboard without copy pasting it
but it doesnt let me copy ur message
exactly
I literally made a sheet just to copy it
most useless unicode tool ever
try prepend mr, then Mr. " ", then delete the mr
Okay ASD all three remaining invalid recipes are yours according to edit history
So when you have the time coudje recheck em
i also love edging
bruh im way too careless
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