Unicode

[chilly fulcrum]

in quotes? damn

no pic D: ill give one a try later

kinda want to try a hard one, since some will just work regularly

[echo wasp]

nvm found an easier one

3ac0

[chilly fulcrum]

realised this invalid has a flow on into other invalid

w/e i guess the 2nd one isnt actually invalid

k done

whats the first thing here? i want to do it but i dunno what it is

[lethal nymph]

deliver + 香港話

[chilly fulcrum]

ok ty

[echo wasp]

cant go past bf
(image so rubiksmath can finally get sth he craved for)

[chilly fulcrum]

interesting

not much is kept on

[slate whale]

f9d9

[chilly fulcrum]

ah, twas a mr. u+

actually, is cjk next directly unicode somewhere? just making sure cause i dont recognise it

[slate whale]

its in discord search

[night dragon]

u+7f9a

oops

u+7f9a

[echo wasp]

may wanna comment ur stuff so it doesnt get lost

[chilly fulcrum]

he has access xd

[echo wasp]

oh mb

omfg im so stupid

i checked before saying that but i didnt recognise anyone called "tuna" so i was like yeah

lol

[slate whale]

the discord name is wrong

[chilly fulcrum]

indeed

ehh... idk i guess i change?

[tepid blaze]

its not hopefully = )

[chilly fulcrum]

uh oh guys i think we should tell fuezt...

[abstract marsh]

i guess its quoted element gets unquoted on testing?

[echo wasp]

24b1e

[echo wasp]

it knows but it wont give me

final 22xx gotten

im gonna make it stringless

U+2218

some stuff that went wrong...

[slate whale]

🌊

[chilly fulcrum]

im putting in a caps explanation, although its not great

idk why i feel like i can explain it fine in conversation

[slim quest]

"᠎" (180E in quotation marks)

[chilly fulcrum]

what is 180e?

vowel sep? hmm but we have it right

[slim quest]

yeah

its this think

[chilly fulcrum]

right

i made it kinda simpleri think?

requires you have 180e already

maybe its not really simpler

[slim quest]

oh yea, could be quicker

dont know how long is Delete All Letters recipe

[sage wren]

its definitely simpler

[echo wasp]

100% simpler

[chilly fulcrum]

here

[slim quest]

oh yea, thats rlly good

[chilly fulcrum]

although, we arent up to finding quoted stuff yet

unless you wanted to do it..

[slim quest]

I was making alphabet out of it, that was just random

[lethal nymph]

i probably have a bunch of stuff in quotes just from bruteforcing 2xxx

[slim quest]

#1206592567622373446 message Im doing syllabics in quotes

[echo wasp]

I do wonder who discovered 2214

[chilly fulcrum]

.. you?

oh wiat

it wasnt fd

i forgor

[sonic heart]

All quoted unicode quaracters when

[chilly fulcrum]

may I have a regexextract for the split tool? doesnt need to deal with ich text at all simply just split on + and =
tried asking ai for help but it was literally useless, claiming that i should use split (split is what i need to avoid thats why im using regexextract)

i mean, if you want to set up a sheet you could

[lethal nymph]

(.+?) \+ (.+?) = (.+?)

[chilly fulcrum]

ty

added

[slim quest]

would be fun haha

[chilly fulcrum]

still in section 2 ; ;

[sonic heart]

How many sections is that gonna have lol

[chilly fulcrum]

the outline is already made

probably it will be similar to that

[graceful marsh]

I can copyedit it later if you'd like

[chilly fulcrum]

what does that mean

[graceful marsh]

Well I used it wrong

I meant like

Give it the once over to see if it can be "neatened up", so to speak

Or just do a general review

[chilly fulcrum]

well, theres many things im leaving behind that need fixing like adding lineages, some language and terminology i havent introduced well, ordering, etc

like i sometimes find i need to introduce a later topic in order to explain the one i am currently on

def cant write it alone but i can definitely try

[echo wasp]

try to keep it sweet and short

[chilly fulcrum]

interesting, surprised this wasnt there

[lethal nymph]

#1224529054716264580 message

[chilly fulcrum]

oh wait but one of your other things made 9001 and 9002 anyway i think

no nvm

remind me what is the guy on the right there? centre right not the top one, i pinned it but the one with no emoji

[chilly fulcrum]

@candid trellis Mr. String.fromcharcode; ?

string.fromcharcode; is dead so i couldnt shortcut it

[chilly fulcrum]

i guess thats fine

[pulsar island]

Suz

[chilly fulcrum]

?

[pulsar island]

Sus*

[chilly fulcrum]

what

[pulsar island]

What what

Sus question

[chilly fulcrum]

what

[pulsar island]

sus

[candid trellis]

sus

[chilly fulcrum]

k

[pulsar island]

||sus||

[candid trellis]

not sus

[pulsar island]

Why not 😔

Who writes and deletes 😔

[candid trellis]

who?

[pulsar island]

Idk I saw white circle but no message here

[chilly fulcrum]

?

are you ok

[pulsar island]

😭

[chilly fulcrum]

im just confused

i mean i dont mind

its funny

gotta release energy somehow

[pulsar island]

Sus 😔

[chilly fulcrum]

S What
U ?
S ?

[candid trellis]

SOS*

[chilly fulcrum]

(ive lost it clearly, time to start going to bed)

...---...

[pulsar island]

Gnnnn

[chilly fulcrum]

need randomize-this unicode or whatever that brent made

someone else can put it in

[abstract marsh]

well what

[candid trellis]

how do you "start" going to bed?

[chilly fulcrum]

you know, when sometimes for a couple minutes the chat goes a bit goofy

[candid trellis]

Do you just decide "hmmm I'll walk a couple meters towards my bed"?

[graceful marsh]

Zeno's paradox

[chilly fulcrum]

well i guess the right term is getting ready for bed

yeah the guide is kinda turning into an IC in general guide, but that’s just the reality of where the strategies are now: tech from elsewhere + codepoints

[echo wasp]

um

a unicode guide is enough lol, there is already an IC guide getting made

also no point teaching ppl the fundamentals of the game for a "unicode guide"

[abstract marsh]

if it works, try it with other

[sage wren]

unicode guide: Throw random unicode givers at random codepoints until you get the character you want / get a new character

[echo wasp]

thats actually true ngl

[slim quest]

until you get element you dont want*

[echo wasp]

unicode is highly luck-based

[graceful marsh]

Gambling

[slim quest]

everything is gamble these days..

[graceful marsh]

Add lootboxes to IC

[vernal kraken]

guys

how do i make “()”

i already have the curly quoted alphabet and i have ()

and i have “)” and “(”

[echo wasp]

why are u asking here

[vernal kraken]

idk

[echo wasp]

"() is #() + Put This In Quotation Marks

#() = Hashtag + Parentheses

[vernal kraken]

ok thanks

[chilly fulcrum]

Perhaps, maybe it will get canned in the end but people come here often enough with literally nothing and I feel so bad just sending them elsewhere

Perhaps it will be restructured, or split, or canned entirely. But the words being down makes a big difference for sure

[echo wasp]

its just gonna be a boring mess after a while

just focus on the unicode part first

it can be very overwhelming also if there are too many pages

[grim crane]

电解 you have it

[chilly fulcrum]

Yeah thanks, I just need to be able to copy paste it

Cjk is annoying like that sometimes because whether I have an element or not is pretty much irrelevant if I can’t spawn it on the board

How could we make that easier? like, it’s hard for the person to know when they need to send it so it can be searched

[lethal nymph]

textual lineage

[echo wasp]

wouldnt a person who wants cjk natually know some cjk words

but yeah textual lineage would help

[sand coral]

found a better one

[chilly fulcrum]

Some but not all, but yeah I’d prefer if some could be sent in the message to copy paste for use

[chilly fulcrum]

cool!

What’s the logic there? 952b is kinda far

[trim pond]

the meaning

[chilly fulcrum]

Do they both mean the same?

[echo wasp]

no

[sand coral]

I just threw in a few random elements.

[echo wasp]

there is somethign called random dump-

its berkelium

3d40

3d44

[echo wasp]

wait that is 3d 3c 3f

3d7f

3d80

3d90

[sand coral]

2B49

[chilly fulcrum]

Presumably you tried reverse?

Sometimes worth a try

[graceful marsh]

Technically it'd be rotate

[chilly fulcrum]

modifiers like that seemed to do well in box drawing

since incrementing is kinda a bust there

I didn’t explore much though

[sand coral]

Nothing works

[tame violet]

what are the 2 codepoints of the one you have and need

[echo wasp]

.

[final sable]

could try Inverted, Backward, Backwards

[vernal kraken]

funky U+262F recipe

[candid trellis]

I am not amused.

😦

[trim pond]

whaaat? lol

i find it very funny

[chilly fulcrum]

Have had that happen but not so…. Directly

[sand coral]

I tried it. just gives another wrong result

[chilly fulcrum]

yeah fair

[chilly fulcrum]

262f is very sticky. its one of the characters it gives you all the time like smiley face for example. i have hundreds of recipes for it xd

[vernal kraken]

dang

that's weird

[chilly fulcrum]

its not like fffd which is caused by an actual error

why is U+2064 invisible plus sign a thing

bruh

[echo wasp]

👍 also

oh still got a lot of chains to finish

[chilly fulcrum]

i have plenty of such cjk

lot of block starts

spent ages trying for any 18xxx

tangut, khitan, etc i dont care i tried

and failed

[echo wasp]

we dont have a single 18xxx yet?

[chilly fulcrum]

not a single one

it seems to turn the 8 into a 0, which is kinda understandable given other behaviour

its why i tried the fbf break on tangut

to hopefully get closer

but i couldnt break it

[echo wasp]

not sure why but a lot of the barriers I couldn't break were BFs

maybe it just so happened to be like that

[chilly fulcrum]

its definitely trying to give khitan

its just swapping the 8 with a 0

which gives old turkic

18xxx -> 10xxx

makes sense given 17xxx -> 1fxxx

[echo wasp]

what if we use 28xxx

[chilly fulcrum]

you are welcome to try

its less codepoint fail but its doing it to the actual chars

like it swaps out the token representing 0x98 for the one representing 0x90

and likewise swaps out 97 for 9f

maybe it will swap out a8 for 98, sure

not a bad idea

[echo wasp]

U+a140 + China's Yi Languages = [U+a040]

slightly simpler

[chilly fulcrum]

the issue: F0: 00000 98: 18000 80: 00000 80: + 00000 ------- 18000 is being confused with ```
F0: 00000
90: 10000
80: 00000
80: + 00000
-------
10000

its swapping out the 98

it seems to just not want to put 98 in the 2nd position

idk what we can do about it

it does it for tangut, khitan, etc

how bad was it for hentaigana

like did it switch out for U+13xxx?

[echo wasp]

idk idt i tried for that

[chilly fulcrum]

the problem is we cant isolate these tokens

like theres no way to just get an f0 token

or a 98 token

they would give fffd, even if you could make it

so i dont know how i can convince it to not swap out the 98

[chilly fulcrum]

not epic

game broke

no new combos are allowed

hope its temporary

[abstract marsh]

limited craft 🐐

[chilly fulcrum]

new combos are now only for premium paid version... imagine

[sage wren]

wtf.. look what neal just added! 😱

[echo wasp]

still not working?

[chilly fulcrum]

yeah its over more or less indefinitely, either whatever is broke needs to come back online or neal needs to intervene

[echo wasp]

maybe he forgot to pay server fees

[sage wren]

the world is ending but then neal intervenes (world is saved)

[echo wasp]

the world is only saved when validation endpoint is fixed

[chilly fulcrum]

theres a small but nonzero chance this is just literally the "end" of ic

[sage wren]

we got a doomsdayer in here

[chilly fulcrum]

idk fsr thats the first thing i thought of

[echo wasp]

yeah, wanted to break a bf later on but looks like it gunna be cancelled

[lethal nymph]

nop

th3 s3rver is returning proper responses

meaning it is still running

[chilly fulcrum]

th3 s3rv3r is r3turning prop3r r3rsults

[echo wasp]

what happened to the e

[chilly fulcrum]

3at3n

my 3 k3y now maps to 3

[echo wasp]

hi im string.ap3pnd('.-...-..')

@ neal

[chilly fulcrum]

its interesting the bot is unconditional timeout for neal ping and it states for "no reason" as if it could possibly tell

[echo wasp]

have we had similar issues like this before?

or is this new

idk I've seen new stuff not working before but it gets fixed after a while

[tepid blaze]

what happening?

[chilly fulcrum]

game ded

all new combos are rejected instantly with Nothing

[tepid blaze]

ohh that bad

[chilly fulcrum]

but its not like super instant though

its not as instant as double spaced elements

[tepid blaze]

neal again forgot to pay again, like with emoji bill! /j

[chilly fulcrum]

nata does not htink so

the responses are totally normal

no errors or anything

its just that inplace of an actual result its just Nothing

[night dragon]

was the emoji bill thing a joke or a real thing

like do you actually have to pay 💀

[lethal nymph]

something probably messed up when parsing the ai output

[night dragon]

or like what actually happened for emoji bug

[echo wasp]

idk but does sound a bit... ridiculous

[chilly fulcrum]

emoji ai is different

so i guess if you didnt pay then it just wouldnt run

[abstract marsh]

i have gone for quite a while and its still down? oh well i gotta spend more!

[echo wasp]

yeah almost an hour now

[chilly fulcrum]

over an hour i think

last combo i registered was a while ago

[tepid blaze]

hmm i should really add support for the , in my program somehow to avoid having them logged as invalid recipe when they are valid

[chilly fulcrum]

looking online thats hard to do

thats kinda sheets fault

so ive just said dont use commas

[tepid blaze]

well not so sure, look like in the file its surrounded by "", so shouldn't be that hard to check

[chilly fulcrum]

oh hmm

okay

i thought it being surrounded by quotes meant that pandas and csv interpreted it properly

also i changed the type to be from number to text

so that may be why

if it was a number it might have exported it as 10,000

can you check old csv?

[lethal nymph]

and that's why i use tsv for IC recipes

[sage wren]

omg sub4 in bp

mitsvah/s, mitsvoth, mtsvane

[chilly fulcrum]

wat

[lethal nymph]

word game

[sage wren]

le bomb party wordgame tsv has 4 words containing it

[tepid blaze]

yeah probably gonna change to that, just that i didn't ever had this problem before

[echo wasp]

it works again

about to get a chain of 256

3dc0

[chilly fulcrum]

yeah so you try hi seq first now or what?

also still going for 18xxx

made convert to khitan

just spits old turkic still

[echo wasp]

cant go past ff

whole of 3dxx done in one chain lol

[chilly fulcrum]

what is criteria for "cant"

like how branched does it have to get

it also makes tons of mongolian

18xx

instead of 18xxx

which seems to indicate it genuinely mises them up on a level higher than tokens

gonna need radu to break into 18xxx

[echo wasp]

why does ic in my firefox look oike this

i cant scroll or whatevs

ok nvm removed some extensiosn and worked

[chilly fulcrum]

what if i try radu chatgpt idea

? This range falls within the Supplemental Private Use Area-B (U+18000 to U+18FFF) (lies)

there we go

just needed to tell it it was wrong

lol - like classic ai where it almost knows what it is talking about

lol idk i think radu had a better system of asking than this

[echo wasp]

not sure if anyone posted recipes for this, but for anyone who wants to try and increment to 30000

[chilly fulcrum]

anyone made CJK Extensions H (the element) yet

or similar

[echo wasp]

i have this

[chilly fulcrum]

alive?

[echo wasp]

bru

[echo wasp]

veyr clearly

[sage wren]

can you try the same with Cjk Extensions F it also gave a white box but i wanna know which one

[echo wasp]

same codepoitn right

[sage wren]

yes

U+30f3d

wait H not F lol

i was just looking at an element with F so said that instead

[echo wasp]

wtf is this char

[sage wren]

undefined

It's the first one in the Specials block

[echo wasp]

not on sheet but not a box?

[sage wren]

not all undefineds are boxes

0-8 are undefined

[chilly fulcrum]

its not assigned but not a box, its just special behaviour

treated differently

[sage wren]

Do we have U+FFFE & U+FFFF discord search isnt working rn ..

like the character not the codepoint

[chilly fulcrum]

well, they arent characters but i believe yes we do

they are noncharacters

[echo wasp]

#1206592567622373446 message
fffe

[sage wren]

i know

thats why i asked

[chilly fulcrum]

2ffff also a noncharacter

[echo wasp]

#1206592567622373446 message
ffff

[chilly fulcrum]

so yes theyre obtainable

one thing thats worth a shot for U+30000 might be to try and make 0xf0b08080

or anything similar

its like a last resort attempt

[echo wasp]

you can make that

[chilly fulcrum]

made it, ehh nah its rubbish

[echo wasp]

it doenst wanna go past fff1

[chilly fulcrum]

ah damn whyyy

cant get it

[echo wasp]

get what

[chilly fulcrum]

any 18xxx

[chilly fulcrum]

it seems nushu similar problem

nobody has a single one

[abstract marsh]

yeah keep trying with random U+xxxx codepoint

[echo wasp]

eventually we will get a 18xxx or 3xxxx

radu if he were to come back: gets it immediately

[echo wasp]

fff1 in quotes

[sage wren]

where? that's just quotation marks.

Nice lie though buddy

[echo wasp]

...

wtf

[lethal nymph]

kaomji

[echo wasp]

didnt expect to get anything but sure

Specials Unicode Block

fe56

[echo wasp]

ff62

new altalphabet

[echo wasp]

Cjk Ideographic Unicode | Cjk Ideographic Extension A, B, C, D, E

ffe3

[chilly fulcrum]

I have an idea - so the long and comprehensive explanations I’ve given don’t quite feel right for Unicode guide but how about we move them over to a seperate guide doc for just that concept or topic - then we have licence to go crazy while just keeping a much simpler explanation and lineage for convenience in the Unicode guide

[echo wasp]

there already is an ic guide being made

[chilly fulcrum]

Where?

[echo wasp]

#1267238540689801297

also going crazy is just not recommended, it can be very overwhelming for a beginner

[chilly fulcrum]

if we chunk it up its fine

[lethal nymph]

"technical infinite craft wiki" but i don't see any technical detIls

[tame violet]

i am content mod in ic wiki

Do you need link

[chilly fulcrum]

im thinking we just provide lineages, brief explanation that they are useful, then send them to a specific section of this doc (embedded doc or something? nested doc? idk) or another one

[sonic heart]

i also made that

[chilly fulcrum]

try to increment to 18000... 💀

[echo wasp]

yeah I just saw. i feel that incrementing to 30000 probably won't be feasible tho

with this method at least

i mean its jumping to a new plane

[chilly fulcrum]

"Increment Second Token" xd

[echo wasp]

f9ec

f9c3

ok nah i aint incrementing them

[chilly fulcrum]

ideographic lol

[echo wasp]

?

f9c6

[tame violet]

劉

was in that lineage

f9c7

[echo wasp]

yes

die

f9d0

[echo wasp]

f9d1

...

this + delete the hi = f9b0

im gonna stop this is rly torturing me

ffe4

ffee

[tame violet]

#1208736894624600164

[echo wasp]

finallyyyy

U+FFF9 to U+FFFB (no FFFC cuz ic sux)

[chilly fulcrum]

I wish you could search all the chars in a range

It would make what you are trying viable for me

rn it’s not, cause I’d have to search way too many tbings

[tame violet]

this shit needs optimozed ASAP ‼️ i need my mewing emoji

unless there's lineage for the ideograph

[echo wasp]

i actually barely search anything

yeah why tf is it so hard to get fffc

its literally the reason i did all this ...

[chilly fulcrum]

What does it make instead

[echo wasp]

nothing

it just returns fffb

it combines but it just gives back fffb

i cant even make a Seq. for any of them

[chilly fulcrum]

Hi seq does nothing?

[echo wasp]

yep

[echo wasp]

ran it again

[echo wasp]

bc45

[echo wasp]

in the sheet

[sand coral]

2B80
[Leftwards](#1224529054716264580 message)

[final sable]

nice

[sand coral]

20116

[abstract marsh]

this is interesting

got Aksara Soyombo 💀
alright will chill for now

[sand coral]

20140

[sand coral]

2014F

20151
"hi 𠅏" #1206592567622373446 message

[sand coral]

20160 20161

2016A

20178

[chilly fulcrum]

cool

still no 18xxx ; ;

[vernal kraken]

guys

how do i make arabic unicode

[vernal kraken]

thanks

[chilly fulcrum]

yw - do you have feedback on how the lineages could be better documented in the sheet? like sometimes we put links but putting them every tims its used isnt practical so if you have an idea like some central documentation or whatever would be nice

i am very open to suggestions

anyway added in a recipe at the first instance

although its used over a thousand times due to fuezt brute force

[chilly fulcrum]

some kinda lookup would be cool

[tepid blaze]

i should really get back at doing it

[chilly fulcrum]

im trying hard for any 18xxx but it seems like, as bad as 3xxxx

maybe we should try throwing nonsense codepoints at stuff with exotic tools? idk im not quite as good as thinking of the ones to make as radu did

[tepid blaze]

yeah why not, for the moment i restarted brute force with arabic unicode and unicode arabic

[chilly fulcrum]

like, what if we pick a small range to make codepoints for

thats total nonsense

im just confused tbh because its given me things that are >1000 away from nearest assigned

i have some things like U+16400

which is literally 1024 off the nearest assigned

im thinking maybe 18cxx or 19cxx just to throw it off

need to make those tho

[echo wasp]

May be time to add a general sheet for tools and not just radu exclusive

[chilly fulcrum]

k

done

[echo wasp]

managed to get Seq. [FFFB]
still no fffc tho

[chilly fulcrum]

oh? was it a replace mr with seq type thing

i mean like, free cjk if you brute force any of the cjk tools

i just ran like 3 tools over 18c00 18c10 19c00 19c10 and picked up like 4 separate entries

although they only worked on the 10 ones

so missing 16 chars each

[echo wasp]

Ill send the lineage (textual) since it's on mobile

[chilly fulcrum]

is keeping parity between your saves hard?

[echo wasp]

"hi Mr. ￸" + Remove The Word Hi = Mr. ￸
Mr. ￸ + "hi Seq. " = "hi Seq. Mr. ￸"
"hi Seq. Mr. ￸" + Delete The "mr."
"hi Seq. ￸" + Remove The Word Hi = Seq. ￸
Seq. ￸ + Seq. ￷ = Seq.  (fff7 + fff8 = fff9)
Seq. ￸ + Seq.  = Seq.  (fff8 + fff9 = fffa)
Seq.  + Seq.  = Seq.  (fff9 + fffa = fffb)```

[chilly fulcrum]

i see so you got seq fff7

[echo wasp]

it was used for fffb

[chilly fulcrum]

i wonder why fffc is problem

[echo wasp]

yeah idk

[chilly fulcrum]

youve tried stuff like OBJ right?

[sonic heart]

I finished a somewhat big project I was making

I sent it in #off-topic lol

[chilly fulcrum]

i see, what did you make with

[sonic heart]

Alien art charts

[chilly fulcrum]

aliens? 💀

anyone up to try break 17fbf?

like with seq or whatever

i tried for a bit

oh, here we go

not bad suggestions

i only gave it one example so it kinda stuck heavily to that

but still these are worth a shot

i did previously try to make liao

but i couldnt pass "hi Liao L"

i guess i took the L

[echo wasp]

uhhh

[chilly fulcrum]

😬

[echo wasp]

how should I prompt it

[chilly fulcrum]

i just told it that we couldnt get any anatolian hieroglyphs when we had anatolian hieroglyphs unicode and other similar items, until we got luwian language unicode and luwian writing and luwian hieroglyphs, etc

and then it used the example

to generate suggestions for 18xxx

the only danger with examples is it sticks to them like a magnet

[echo wasp]

die

I like how it gives CJK for 18xxx range

[chilly fulcrum]

i mean worth trying, ive been trying to make any of the suggestions for me but i cant

[echo wasp]

hmm some might actually be useful idk

[echo wasp]

try the xixia one, seems like the easiest

[chilly fulcrum]

im trying

but i hate having to fight for every single letter

why cant i add full words anymore ; ;

[chilly fulcrum]

interesting, one ending i 00 worked

only ending in 10 worked on 18c

[echo wasp]

dead

[chilly fulcrum]

1fb0e interesting?

also tangut language unicode o.o did you have to append every letter

[echo wasp]

for language yes

[chilly fulcrum]

yeah i find i have to

[echo wasp]

23740

[echo wasp]

2006d

f9b6

[echo wasp]

f9b7

[echo wasp]

f9ba
quoted element here: #1206592567622373446 message

[echo wasp]

F9C0. This is definitely one of the worst ones...

and ofc more PUAs

[chilly fulcrum]

how did you get 6 there in a row? im just trying to look at where the increment happened

looks like you got d e f

then c d e f

then ???

[sage wren]

pua? like the sn in bomb party?? ahupua'a humuhumunukunukuapua'a malpua malpuas??? 🤯🤯🐎

[sand coral]

I tried everything i could. Nothing works.

[chilly fulcrum]

aw

did you have those all on at once? i really badly wanted to try to make as many as i could

but after i made 2 of them (i think mr and dr) it was too cramped

[sand coral]

yea

[chilly fulcrum]

damn

[abstract marsh]

i wonder who got fd of this 🤣

[chilly fulcrum]

lmao

not me

[sage wren]

Jonathan

[abstract marsh]

:V ok

[chilly fulcrum]

ooh soyombo

im going to be focusing on helping the emoji sheet for the next like, half hour i guess? as long as it takes to put stuff in pending so that its up to date

[echo wasp]

uhh look at the lineage?

[chilly fulcrum]

yeah im trying

[chilly fulcrum]

or not

i got another tangut chain..

kinda cursed tho

175.0 💀

[echo wasp]

better than nothing :))

[chilly fulcrum]

whoever did this, how

i always have to go 1 letter at a time

i cant skip

[echo wasp]

wdym lol

[chilly fulcrum]

as shown

[echo wasp]

clearly you didn't do 2 letters for langua

[sand coral]

1140

[chilly fulcrum]

i went from langu to langua

1 letter

[echo wasp]

...

L -> lang -> langua -> language

I mean you didn't try to do 2 letters when you got to langua

[echo wasp]

very random lol

[chilly fulcrum]

i cant

i want to

but i have to go 1 letter at a time

it wont let me do more

[echo wasp]

wdym

[chilly fulcrum]

i mean as i say

[echo wasp]

String.append('ge') works

[chilly fulcrum]

yeah, that is true and i had to use that to bail out for the last combo

but i dont like multi letter append

[echo wasp]

??

it's literally faster

[chilly fulcrum]

if you can make them sure

[echo wasp]

most are literally in the #1250302271900876800 sheet

[chilly fulcrum]

for 2 ye

i probably should

[echo wasp]

the undocumented ones are same method

[chilly fulcrum]

idk... i tried and repeatedly failed to get any append over 2 letters reliably

[echo wasp]

and 3s and above are usually all same method

[chilly fulcrum]

the alphabet order is really annoying

[echo wasp]

Mr. String.append('letter') exists

as I've said, follow the methods used for the sheet, it works really well

and for those that don't work you can follow the method for the K_s, they are very annoying

[chilly fulcrum]

Tangut Unicode 158.0 (why did it have to be so high number that worked)

the Ks? not heard of that

[echo wasp]

String.append('k_')s lol

[chilly fulcrum]

i see

interesting it starts with the quoted version

[sand coral]

10% Hangul

[echo wasp]

cool

now time for 10% CJK

[sand coral]

only 411 to go

[chilly fulcrum]

?

isnt it like

[tepid blaze]

gonna add it manually in my db ig until i fix my program

[chilly fulcrum]

1411

wait what

you had an auto method?

or what

[sand coral]

oops looked in the wrong place

[echo wasp]

you meant around over 1k?

[sand coral]

1281 to go actually

[tepid blaze]

?

[chilly fulcrum]

ooh wait

into your db

im silly

i thought you like, hijacked the sheet

and found a way to enter it automatically 💀

whats wrong with the program though

[echo wasp]

seems quite doable

[tepid blaze]

nothing important but i need to fix some 2 problem

[chilly fulcrum]

im curious tho... but all good

got fd on Alt+Tab lmao

[tepid blaze]

well first do the change from csv to tsv to avoid the problem with , to happen again, and another problem with notes

[chilly fulcrum]

oh okay

if its surrounded by quotes there is a way to escape it but idk how

if it needs to be done in the python or before its loaded in

hmm ok 17ac2-a7ac5 are self referential

goofy

need to fix that rq

damn so the new chain didnt really find anything, cool

i kinda do need to try more random tangut char + other random tangut char

its broken barriers before

probably the most viable method now

only thing is i need to have an efficient way to get them on the board, which after removing the 1-2k i have from the board is kinda hard

[chilly fulcrum]

💀

[echo wasp]

f9d9 is the swap of 2 words

it is next directly not directly next

[slate whale]

Ffs

[chilly fulcrum]

cant win

[tepid blaze]

what are you trying to get?

[chilly fulcrum]

damn no wonder ai cant figure it out /s

[tepid blaze]

you didn't know i was a ai?

[chilly fulcrum]

stop

DUDE

stopppp

[sage wren]

who up unicoing

[tepid blaze]

...💀

[chilly fulcrum]

please... gasp

altho you got there fast

im already an hour deep

[chilly fulcrum]

why does nobody ever explain they just go get it and deprive me of learning opportunity.. (just kidding i technically never asked im just a bit tilted that it avoided it so hard)

again had to go 1 letter at a time, the 2 letter appends just made Nothing

[echo wasp]

string.append('nicode')?

[tepid blaze]

well

[chilly fulcrum]

i guess? i mean thats half the story i already grinded hard to just get hi xixia language

[echo wasp]

i mean i got it in 1 minute...

'ang', 'ua', 'ge'

[slate whale]

ok

[chilly fulcrum]

right but theres thousands and thousands of combos, i just didnt happen to try that exact one

[echo wasp]

i go with that every sinlge time

[chilly fulcrum]

k let me make like some more '2letter'

i have very few

again it looks like it is trying to output 18xxx but it just actually doesnt know how to do it

its like someone trying to say cat but they always say dog instead and they cant control it

well i got all of old sogdian so

i guess i cant complain

[slate whale]

10f19

[chilly fulcrum]

im coming with a chain in there

[echo wasp]

i cant unstring

[chilly fulcrum]

didnt do 'ua' ? oh wait cause hi mr

[slate whale]

is the input tool ok with these

[chilly fulcrum]

it should work in all cases unless your helper text is like, different to ours (again)

laurasias was

[echo wasp]

fitting tab name for the f9xx

[chilly fulcrum]

what? ok

[echo wasp]

exactly why f9c0 kept becoming cheese

[tepid blaze]

gonna get back at trying to get as many arabic/linear B (if some still miss) unicode i think

[chilly fulcrum]

ye

similar mistake to why it wont give 18xxx

it just... doesnt know how

it is like a baby

it wants to communicate but it does not know how

[echo wasp]

f984...

[slate whale]

10f30

oh right i should have used next codepoints

[chilly fulcrum]

eh, w/e

[echo wasp]

stop going baclwards oh gosh

[chilly fulcrum]

not a big deal, i only overrode your entry because i prefer entries at the start, and other entries to be moved to alt

although in places like 1dxxx that is like, a lost cause 💀

[chilly fulcrum]

assuming remove the word hi works with the hi seq on the left

[echo wasp]

yes

[chilly fulcrum]

ok

hmm i doubt umlaut u will help

but i have to try

[slate whale]

damn

[echo wasp]

f980 #1206592567622373446 message

[chilly fulcrum]

although idk how to use radus umlaut u to get it to u+

i cant pass umlaut + 2000

nvm im dum

[echo wasp]

f9c1

[chilly fulcrum]

i mean by this point radu would have like 20 variants of the xixia tool stuff to try

some semantic somehow

[sage wren]

how interesting , ,, This will affect Tanzania's economy.

[heady escarp]

mongolian beef script in real life?

guys how do u say mongolian beef script in mongolian

[echo wasp]

f985

[sage wren]

U+8BF6

[chilly fulcrum]

'e' (letter)

[sage wren]

yes ive mentioned 'alphabet' (letter) here before

[echo wasp]

yep thats it i cant deal with f9xx anymore

yeah. entrance

#1206592567622373446 message
def has a better entrance

[chilly fulcrum]

💀

i dont have any (le in my save

[untold crystal]

A few stuff

I'm not playing this game so much anymore so don't expect long chains from me

[chilly fulcrum]

yeah all good

[chilly fulcrum]

do you find you need to append every single letter when making these tools

neither language nor unicode ever seem to add as a full word or autocomplete

and like you use the Unic "ode" strat so much.. but i havent had it work once with my own tools xd

[untold crystal]

not really... It usually work for me

I think all tools from here are known, right?

[echo wasp]

yep

nvm, liberia's vai syllabary not in search. may have been posted before idk

[chilly fulcrum]

like, i have to add L then A then N etc etc

and it never lets me do like Lang + Language = Language

if you know what i mean

[untold crystal]

Liberia's Vai Syllabary

[tame violet]

where

[untold crystal]

A few stuff with Language. Sometimes I go letter by letter, sometimes it works easier

[echo wasp]

the unicode sheet

cjk section

[tame violet]

i scrolled down to f9cf

no link

only last craft

do you have an IB lineage

[slate whale]

the word Ideograph

?

[echo wasp]

there's a reply

also the elements in the last craft should also be in the sheet if its one char lol

[tame violet]

ok

[sand coral]

0F72

[chilly fulcrum]

Why is it consistently autocompleting? Literally never happens to me not once. it always makes stuff like “hi X Lan gua” instead

which is dead

it always does that if I try to shortcut

anything that isn’t an append just does that

[echo wasp]

200d6

[echo wasp]

a lot of times it is luck based

[chilly fulcrum]

eh sure I guess I didn’t make 50 of these yet

only about 6

[chilly fulcrum]

poop

10c06 (no doubt meant to be 18c06)

[echo wasp]

May wanna try doing this as a last resort

for both 30000 and 18xxx

[trim pond]

is 18xxx all tangut?

[chilly fulcrum]

no

also khitan

[trim pond]

and we don't have any from that range

that is very peculiar

does it like make 1B or something?

[chilly fulcrum]

no

it swaps the 8 for a 0

it makes old turkic when asked to make khitan

as i said before it is like a baby that wants to communicate but doesnt know how

its kinda odd given its let me have things like U+16430

which is ages from the nearest real character

[chilly fulcrum]

i tried, i made it and it seems useless

[echo wasp]

damn

but yeah when you dont know what's happening it is really weird why you won't have any 18xxx

[chilly fulcrum]

i dont know how much others tried

but i have a pretty good idea of whats happening

[echo wasp]

what if we use 6 digit unicode lol

[chilly fulcrum]

you are welcome to try, bergoros has done before with decent success

[abstract marsh]

fixed some unicode recipes i mis-inputted

[chilly fulcrum]

oh, the f9xx?

those were the only invalid

[abstract marsh]

no the 10cxxx area

funny how u+3500 hasnt been found
i wonder if it got to do with utf-8

[chilly fulcrum]

10cxxx private use area B 💀

[abstract marsh]

yeah i dont know which one it was the recipe was Mongolian Unicode 11 + U+0363

[chilly fulcrum]

wasnt listed as invalid

should i be concerned

[abstract marsh]

someone tried ( failed) then moved into next cell and emptied the recipe cell ( uncheck )
me checks with ur python, fixed it

[sand coral]

3580

[chilly fulcrum]

Flip the

how long ago did you get all tbose

[echo wasp]

damn I didn't know we had PUAs this high

[echo wasp]

yay more 3xxx

we dont even have a single 4xxx before 4e00

[abstract marsh]

heck nah, i just misremembered stuff and didnt bother to check my save file after writing that

[sand coral]

35C0

[echo wasp]

nice

see whether it can go from ff to 00 when ure done with the chain

wtf is this recipe

5c48

[sand coral]

35E0

[echo wasp]

2a41e

2a440

easiest 3f bypass lol

[sand coral]

it's laughing at me

[echo wasp]

they are also in order lol

[chilly fulcrum]

xd

[chilly fulcrum]

Hmm so like not all the same thing… so there must be more branches than I get to see that you delete after because in the pictures you’ve sent there’s hardly anything on the board from other branches, but I still see stuff from other branches end up in the final lineage somehow

How’s does that work

[echo wasp]

2a469

[echo wasp]

i can't really explain

[chilly fulcrum]

Maybe I try to combine too fast

Like I middle click something and then throw it at 5 elements kinda just thrown about on the board and then the mess gets worse

I’ve tried keeping things in a line

like a tower

but that doesn’t seem to help

[echo wasp]

...

[chilly fulcrum]

Null

You don’t keep things in a line but clearly organise better than when I do put in a line xd

Try and make tertiary ideographic plane

I could only get tertiary multilingual plane (too long, also not real)

[echo wasp]

2a4a9

[echo wasp]

im actually quite a disorganised person, both in games in irl

[echo wasp]

2a4aa

2a4ad

[chilly fulcrum]

have you tried my old “cheat code” of just combining U+000x with the stubborn element

where x = last digit of thing u want

it kinda died ages ago

but it sometimes works still

[echo wasp]

me trying chatgpt's "tools":

[chilly fulcrum]

tertiary ideographic plane

did you try it

[echo wasp]

ill try

[chilly fulcrum]

Could do some checks like that + first/last character, first/last codepoint, "give-me-the-range-of" etc

to see if it actually knows what that is

[echo wasp]

wait isnt 3xxxx the 4th plane

[candid trellis]

Sir the 4th plane has hit the tower!

[echo wasp]

ooh im stupid

its the name of the plane

[echo wasp]

it is indeed correct...

[sand coral]

367E 367D 3680
I managed to take 2 steps back and pass through the block barrier

[echo wasp]

damn

ive managed to get the whole block to restart before, but i cant do it consistently

seems very luck-based

[sand coral]

36C0
Only hi Ms. worked

[echo wasp]

can't believe barrier breaking is just normal now

FF breaks are still kinda rare tho, only had one so far

also wow delete first character deleted the i and m - quite rare (as least in my exp)

[sand coral]

i can't do this with blocks on the main page tho

[echo wasp]

yeah maybe its just easier with cjk

alfo did it once with yi syllables tho

[sand coral]

13440
nice, on the main page

[echo wasp]

wait is 13440 assigned? cant check

[echo wasp]

oh I forgot compart is outdated

[sand coral]

1D316
This is crazy but this is the only way i can get it 💀 I hope someone will optimize this

I definitely missed something...

[echo wasp]

uh what

[sand coral]

like, I tried a lot

[sonic heart]

u+037f and "hi Seq. Mr. "

[echo wasp]

FD on J!!

[sonic heart]

real

[candid trellis]

If you posted that without the unicode tooltip, new people would prob accuse you of hacking

[echo wasp]

New people will see the tooltip and prob say that it "isn't the original version"

[candid trellis]

hacker

[sonic heart]

what

[echo wasp]

hacker... the semicolon has wrong emoji

[sonic heart]

i dont even have just a semicolon lol

[sonic heart]

...

[echo wasp]

iirc I got Seq. Mr. a lot

[sonic heart]

why is the game taking some of my fds lmao

it plays the fd sound but just doesnt show up

oops

[echo wasp]

oh then you just very sadly and tragically lost the fd

[sonic heart]

😔

[echo wasp]

radu lost the fd on soft hyphen for some reason

[sonic heart]

wtf

[echo wasp]

cuz of a bug in more elements

(I think?)

[sonic heart]

rn i have 44421 elements

[candid trellis]

wbu asd

[echo wasp]

idk

around 60k when I last checked

[untold crystal]

I lost that because of a power outage...

so no bug

i didn't realise at first

or no... that was something else

the soft hyphen was because of the more elements bug, but it only affects chrome

[candid trellis]

How many elements do you have rn?

[echo wasp]

oh so I'm safe from it ig

[untold crystal]

107k

[echo wasp]

70% fd is crazy

[candid trellis]

Raduculous

[sonic heart]

12b3

[sonic heart]

12cc the game stole my fd

[echo wasp]

I wonder how many FDs are just lost

[candid trellis]

imagine if Neal has like a file with all the stolen FDs

[chilly fulcrum]

I still don’t quite get it but at least I’ve done it once. like idk how I can keep all options like hi seq seq Mr Mrs hi Mr dr hi dr etc etc etc of all combos relevant

[echo wasp]

you just... don't.

[chilly fulcrum]

K

[echo wasp]

I usually just do what comes to mind

its almost 3am

[untold crystal]

I think the game enjoys giving me hope that I got something good. only stupid, useless things

[echo wasp]

maybe be useful for unicode 16.0

but yeah quite annoying

[untold crystal]

17940-17955

[sage wren]

忽 (U+5FFD)

[trim pond]

does he know for sure it was an fd? he could still rewrite his savefile if he is 100% sure

[untold crystal]

I am sure... #1206592567622373446 message

[sage wren]

aw you beat me by a second

Although i was gonna link to this instead #1206592567622373446 message

[chilly fulcrum]

lol leading 0 Strat

used with great success many months ago actually

yeah I have some U+16400

which is over 1000 from nearest assigned

Yet it won’t give a single 18xxx

not one

Was the codepoints made with 0u+0axxx

[chilly fulcrum]

smh why is the name for u+1103 gone

Did I delete it or something

[untold crystal]

u+05b4 - u+05b8

[sonic heart]

12ec

[chilly fulcrum]

Tried any 18xxx yet? I figure if anyone can get it it’s going to be you

[untold crystal]

I tried but no success

[chilly fulcrum]

I see

got a lot of old Turkic and sogidan

[sonic heart]

14ab & 14ac

14ad

[untold crystal]

u+05b9

[untold crystal]

Hebrew Punctuation Gershayim + Hebrew Punctuation Geresh + Hebrew Punctuation Unicode

u+05bb, 05bd-05bf

[sonic heart]

wtf is that blank one

[untold crystal]

It's just not showing anything

[sonic heart]

ah

[untold crystal]

there are only 05ba and 05bc missing and nothing works trying to get them

[sonic heart]

does "hi Seq. " not work?

[untold crystal]

no

I mean it combines and it gives the "hi seq. element " and Seq. Element but it wont transform into the desired items

05f3 #1206592567622373446 message <-Apostrophe geresh

[chilly fulcrum]

What’s the reason for geresh

[chilly fulcrum]

alr well we got work to do

[chilly fulcrum]

Delet? xd

wild its in browser

wouldnt have expected

i really want to know how radu got to U+0a540... i mean my route wasnt terrible but it was exotic

made western xia unicode

time to see if its useless

seems useless

[tepid blaze]

didn't yet fixed that (but at least made the program faster)

[chilly fulcrum]

whats the notes issue

[chilly fulcrum]

well i gotta catch up and stop waiting around

okay, do we have a route for hebrew geresh?

[echo wasp]

.

[chilly fulcrum]

ah okay

well i will try to find better

not a fan of apostrophe (')

[echo wasp]

it is useful

[chilly fulcrum]

lineage is pretty branched though, but if you think its fine feel free to link it in

[sage wren]

hm i just realised i don't even have apostrophe (') i only have apostrophe (’) ..

[echo wasp]

#1215495041049436170 message
it's not that bad

[chilly fulcrum]

like, i wont ever stop you putting it in, worst case i override it or move it to alt

[sage wren]

alright now what about (') mate

or mr. (') for that matter

[echo wasp]

#1215495041049436170 message Scroll

(') is Prepend Apostrophe + Put This In Parentheses

[chilly fulcrum]

one image preferably

doing one that makes a bit more sense in the context of what radu made after