so we get it now?
#Unicode
chilly fulcrum
yay!!
so we can improve it, good.
the key idea is:
checking your db for TRUE is the same thing as checking recipe via neal API - except its way faster
(unless bug, but then again, what if neal API has bug 💀)
nice
unique acorn
yeah, no more than what already in the invalid sheet (except some 500s)
chilly fulcrum
500s are still interesting for us, even 403s im happy to include
i can delete the invalid sheet and replace it with updated
yay!
make sure u get sleep ok
unique acorn
yeah, no more than what already in the invalid sheet (except some 500s)
in fact its a my bad it already logged 500s, just said that the output was None (cause in fact there were no output, but changed it to that now: )```500 Error For U+1D75B : (𝝛)
Mr. 𝝛 + Remove The Mr.
ah yeah, good thing i fixed that one already
unique acorn
those tree are the only 500s i got (even if they are already in invalid sheet)
chilly fulcrum
no need for Mr.
oh wait maybe i am silli
its showing the small z there is it
(𝝛) should fill the brackets
unique acorn
500 Error For U+1D75B : (𝝛)
Mr. 𝝛 + Remove The Mr.
chilly fulcrum
maybe terminal font
ok nice
ty
so def nothing new? in that case ill leave it be as is
tysm truly legend
seriously cannot thank u enough
sand coral
8C4C fixed
(中文 on browser/bot)
echo wasp
ah so nonexistent char...
chilly fulcrum
most of them are simple mistakes though, I’m fine if we only do those before resuming usual work
the ones that are more complex can just stay invalid till we find em
may un tick them though
sage wren
its a toilet
echo wasp
finally
echo wasp
d7b6
chilly fulcrum
i want to see like pictures every little while to see progression of a hard one like that with branches, i see two places you could have branched
ofc you cant know if its gonna be hard in advance
echo wasp
my board rn lol
(there was a previous attempt but it got too cluttered so i cleared it)
echo wasp
this is, indeed, correct
echo wasp
cant find a recipe
same
chilly fulcrum
is it just like throwing the useful elements against a few others on the board at once and seeing what happens or are you being somewhat methodical to make sure you duplicate everything and check off everything you wanted to try so that you dont accidentally lose anything useful?
chilly fulcrum
when doing deletes and removes that require multiple tries how do you do it? i just end up woth 20 copies of the same thing on the board xd
echo wasp
yep there's no way its gonna go past bf
hangul incrementation sux
pua
next hangul unicode
d7f1
1 away from surrogates
at least the last part of something is completed
echo wasp
just ran it (also fixed a few invalids)
chilly fulcrum
1 away from surrogates
Surrogates aren’t possible, ask nata
echo wasp
Surrogates aren’t possible, ask nata
what why
echo wasp
k yeah uve mentioned it before
chilly fulcrum
2048 unobtainable surrogates
unobtainable because they are physically invalid text for javascript
it literally cannot store them
lethal nymph
they should be obtainable actually (if llama is able to generate them illegally)
doing "\u{10000}".slice(1) does give you dc00
chilly fulcrum
if you print it?
pulsar island
i got you a sus unicode
chilly fulcrum
nice unassigned
pulsar island
haha yeahh
chilly fulcrum
they should be obtainable actually (if llama is able to generate them illegally)
yeah, i mean thats doubtful since llama is utf-8
when converted to utf-16, most processing systems will remove it
or throw an error
could be a cause of 500 but i kinda doubt
echo wasp
unobtainable because they are physically invalid text for javascript
yeah thats all you had to say lol
pulsar island
vualaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
echo wasp
nice recipe ?
pulsar island
echo wasp
wdym
chilly fulcrum
no its not a chain
echo wasp
both are the same but different casing
night dragon
oh yea
pulsar island
chilly fulcrum
- next letter would do but alr
pulsar island
and prepend hyphen
chilly fulcrum
yeah.. dont worry i got it covered
i have those ingredients anyway so id make my own
ive put it in with next letter since that works and is a far simpler alternative
mbs only but it is what it is
echo wasp
yeah it's fine imo
pulsar island
ive put it in with next letter since that works and is a far simpler alternative
yeah i saw it is easier lol
chilly fulcrum
if you want your lineage to be linked for future if this tool is needed, try to go back to 2 letter alt alphabets or standard tools, so like prepend hyphen is allowed and put this in quotation marks etc etc
pulsar island
nono it is okkk lol dont make it harded for them lol
pulsar island
if you want your lineage to be linked for future if this tool is needed, try to ...
oh ill try
chilly fulcrum
im not gonna make it harder for them of course, but if like there isnt an easy alternative we need a lineage linked
otherwise its kinda just a slap in the face to whoever wants to make it in future
pulsar island
okkkk so ill se if it is usefull first
echo wasp
doing `"\u{10000}".slice(1)` does give you dc00
what if we craft that
graceful marsh
You corrected yourself but the idea of you saying "like 2 strokes" as if you can't count to 3 is very funny
echo wasp
You corrected yourself but the idea of you saying "like 2 strokes" as if you can...
uh, i kinda forgot the number of strokes when i said that
back when the highest unicode was barely above U+20000
sage wren
its very pink outside today does anyone know who caused this
graceful marsh
But is it like foggy?
trim pond
pink glasses?
graceful marsh
I've been tracking the cold wave over the Baltic / Channel / North Sea area and it's just weird
Cold front not wave
sage wren
But is it like foggy?
A bit
graceful marsh
Man, what I wouldn't give to be on a research vessel right now
untold crystal
I have this if you like it. Znamenny here #1206592567622373446 message
pulsar island
where can i find all the unicode recipes? im trying to get u+1b50
chilly fulcrum
I have this if you like it. Znamenny here https://discord.com/channels/120352704...
thanks!
chilly fulcrum
where can i find all the unicode recipes? im trying to get u+1b50
the codepoints? theres some decent strats that we intend to document in great detail in the guide, but for now basically "..u-" and string building numbers works, or radu also uses things like "00u+" or "the u+"
untold crystal
better to use the "..u-" tho, it works a lot better
and if you are looking for the unicode chars. they are in the sheet from the pins
pulsar island
how do i make it to + after?
untold crystal
after you have "..u-1b50" combine it with mr. u+ that usually works
then remove the mr
pulsar island
after you have "..u-1b50" combine it with `mr. u+` that usually works
okk tyyy
chilly fulcrum
i recommend trying U+ first, it used to be a near 95% hit now its more like 30%
like "..u-xxxx" + U+ = U+xxxx about 30% of the time now
it used to almost always
actually i think nata may have some recipes for these
in his brute forces
especially the 2xxx ones
pulsar island
ill try tyyyy now am searching for the "..u-" recipe
graceful marsh
where can i find all the unicode recipes? im trying to get u+1b50
Yep, Unicode Balinese + Umami
pulsar island
Yep, Unicode Balinese + Umami
oh wow tyyy
echo wasp
i hope we can fill in the gaps here
pulsar island
ill try my best lol
echo wasp
i hope we can fill in the gaps here
(tho I haven't tried that hard yet)
Spot the difference: ㅡ 一
slate whale
On the right its longer
chilly fulcrum
aww i so wish i had done guide
although maybe i am getting ahead of myself, like how do i determine what deletes and removes to include, how often do we send them to sheets, when do we make our own newer lineages in the doc, but balacing that so theres not like 100 sections to overwhelm them in the document overview, etc
maybe its better to just write
i had same problem with school assignments
echo wasp
why would you need to include deletes and removes that are already documented
tame violet
i hope we can fill in the gaps here
korean?
echo wasp
yep
graceful marsh
Centralised documentation
Much like the Altphabet Directory down in A2Z, finding the documentation is often the part that needs to be streamlined
chilly fulcrum
i dont want to just fob them off to somewhere else and say "not our problem lol"
tame violet
wat
chilly fulcrum
sometimes sure
but for many things having optimised, updated, central documentation is huge
graceful marsh
I do have a few requests though
I want screenshots of a codepoint construction process
chilly fulcrum
of course, yeah
i could do sample of like "easy" with a few different alt methods
and then some examples of codepoints that sucked to get
and how we made them
graceful marsh
Fortunately annotating images is rather simplistic in docs
chilly fulcrum
i was getting a bit ahead and thinking of "ooh we should make an optimised route to basic U+0000 things + some prepends and deletes and removes and ... oh. too many things"
graceful marsh
The trucker doesn't stare at the map the whole way
Keep at what's on the road ahead for now
We refer to the roadmap when we want to figure out what to do next
I went on an Ice Road Truckers marathon yesterday and now I can only think in truck metaphors
Well, "marathon"
chilly fulcrum
yeah, well we can start at alt alphabets
could do pictures of some of the routes, im not the biggest fan of notes for routes like in optimisheet, but i totally get the space savings
sage wren
I went on an Ice Road Truckers marathon yesterday and now I can only think in tr...
do you have a trucker metaphor pertaining to hypocrisy
chilly fulcrum
down to 5 invalid main sheet
and by (brilliance? luck? idk?) thats now 4
ok i think i know how to get it to 3 but i need one of glowys recipes
nvm
i have their save
what am i on about
pulsar island
How do I get the "..u-" ? I couldn't find
graceful marsh
Optimisheet or #1226511876733669436 message
abstract marsh
ok i think i know how to get it to 3 but i need one of glowys recipes
depends on when did i craft it👀
chilly fulcrum
i do have it now
i am just trying to piece together a good lineage for it, im weighing up if i should redo the whole next unicode/current symbol/etc for guide or what
number of steps is high which is funny cause it uses "easier" tools
like theres weighing up easier tools vs just hi mr win everything way faster
in fact out convert to unicode recipe isnt great still
its so tough aaa im getting ahead of myself, like im going ok so do i go back and do "unicode" too? or do i put that in another image in the guide? like i can only go so far for one set of tools... ok calm...
aa
anyway
settled for browser link
um
down to only 10040, 10041, 10042 invalid on main sheet
but we know at least 10042 was found
how? we dont know
pulsar island
Optimisheet or https://discord.com/channels/1203527044957208596/1226511876733669...
Tyyyy
abstract marsh
should weight it with popularity and usages count
echo wasp
down to only 10040, 10041, 10042 invalid on main sheet
there is still a lot more that isnt on the main sheet lol
chilly fulcrum
yeah, do you have any of them? some of them are in the ranges youve been nearby but idk if you have these ones
echo wasp
I fixed the ones I typoed
chilly fulcrum
k, well theres 68 left
Keep pushing we can get it done
then we won’t have to worry about it for some time
slate whale
next valid char u+500d
chilly fulcrum
lol nice
echo wasp
nah
chilly fulcrum
deedni retcarahc nah
chilly fulcrum
man i love when i cant right click on any cells
? oh also what do you need right click for
slate whale
i don't like changing the sheet if i cant see this
if i can;t right click i cant see this either
so i think it wouldn't save
chilly fulcrum
caution is always appreciated can never be too safe
what if you try it but then refresh
and check
slate whale
also whats with these on the invalids
slate whale
what if you try it but then refresh
never tried
chilly fulcrum
those are notes I put
in that case that’s just a note saying how to fix it (most likely)
simple typo
askara vs aksara
echo wasp
...
slate whale
nah
chilly fulcrum
go ahead always simpler recipes can replace
I started making entries be Alts and the main chains be the main recipes
echo wasp
lol
chilly fulcrum
there’s an easy streak of a few where it’s Next Lettter
with 3 ts
presumably typo
sand coral
C11D fixed
echo wasp
some gaps
chilly fulcrum
It’s fine to go do the low hanging fruit first
sand coral
С138
Not so bad, I suppose?
echo wasp
pua generator
chilly fulcrum
С138
Not so bad, I suppose?
Hmm maybe, I think maybe sleet does work but with one of the other standard Hangul tools
I don’t remember if I put that in from the 500 comments
chilly fulcrum
perhaps
sand coral
from the gondunger's sheet
chilly fulcrum
Nice
chilly fulcrum
Can we do the ones where the mistake is obvious soon? They should be like really quick fix
echo wasp
f9ff
sonic heart
now get fa00
chilly fulcrum
lol what the letter a
echo wasp
now get fa00
sure thing
sand coral
some random elements
echo wasp
not fd
sonic heart
lol
echo wasp
me when i try to get fa80:
like bruh why hangul filler for no reason again
i wanted to try 7f bypass but bruh
chilly fulcrum
Hard to bypass without a chain that’s for sure
echo wasp
Hard to bypass without a chain that’s for sure
i already found it all
slate whale
me when
chilly fulcrum
Poseidon
graceful marsh
Next Codepoint stole the emoji
chilly fulcrum
well it obviously just inserted a 1 in front
although
What’s the utf-8 on that
the emoji should be f0 9f xx 9c
echo wasp
What’s the issue then
uhh. incrementing from 7f to 80??
chilly fulcrum
f0 (0000-3ffff) 9f (+ 1f000 - 1ffff) a7 (+ 9c0 - 9ff) 9c (+ 1c)
slate whale
yeah
chilly fulcrum
9F: 01F000
A7: 0009C0
9C: + 00001C
———————
01F9DC```didn’t look as I hoped
Oh well
graceful marsh
Discord should incorporate table Markdown
chilly fulcrum
Damn I can’t win
echo wasp
happens a lot
how many PUAs have you gotten from these
chilly fulcrum
Hey there we go
Breakdown of the UTF-8
now I’ll do it for the F9DC
cause why not
A7: 0009C0
9C: + 00001C
———————
00F9DC```so basically it turned EF into F0 9F
more change than I thought
Surprised it confuses them in that case
like for tangut I totally get it
they differ by precisely one bit out of 32
sonic heart
how many PUAs have you gotten from these
pua?
sonic heart
like 2 or 3
slim quest
whats the current one
氵+ 氶
echo wasp
yeah shld be a bit better i think
sand coral
I did everything i could in Hangul. These two probably haven't been obtained yet.
sand coral
Kangxi Didica (couldn't find it anywhere)
graceful marsh
Get baited
slim quest
yeah.. I though its U+1462... (ᑢ)
slim quest
Get baited
ᑕᐧ / ᑢ
tell me the difference 😦
graceful marsh
One of them has the dot slightly inside the curve
slim quest
so close..
slim quest
progress so far haha
slim quest
#1226511876733669436 message Easier 😉
chilly fulcrum
I did everything i could in Hangul. These two probably haven't been obtained yet...
You are the best Ty!
chilly fulcrum
look like i have 10040
Oh ok I haven’t seen Unicode Coptic before but I’m sure it’s somewhere
unique acorn
Oh ok I haven’t seen Unicode Coptic before but I’m sure it’s somewhere
#1206592567622373446 message
echo wasp
`ᑕᐧ` / `ᑢ`
tell me the difference 😦
from first glance it does look the same
chilly fulcrum
Cool
chilly fulcrum
cool find tbf!
are you able to fix the lineage or is it too much?
slim quest
are you able to fix the lineage or is it too much?
yeah, which one?
chilly fulcrum
the cree syllabics one, the two issues i encountered was that georgian language wasnt on browser and that the recipe script + Dene Tha' wasnt right
sorry ; ;
graceful marsh
Oh right Bot is down
graceful marsh
It's Georgian Alphabet + Translation, but that's no good without the Bot lineage for Georgian Alphabet
slim quest
It's Georgian Alphabet + Translation, but that's no good without the Bot lineage...
yeah, it has line 4 slides
thats why I excluded it
slim quest
the cree syllabics one, the two issues i encountered was that georgian language ...
dene tha??
ow well.., mb
slim quest
let me redo it then..
chilly fulcrum
sorry ; ;
unique acorn
Oh right Bot is down
i genuinely wonder why too
slim quest
sorry ; ;
Do I need to make lineage for georgian language?
Its in the bot, but its down rn
slim quest
4 pages (from starting elements)
slim quest
last pages looks like this
graceful marsh
Georgian isn't even on IB
slim quest
bro..
chilly fulcrum
georgians is though..
slim quest
slim quest
aight
chilly fulcrum
i mean we could try optimise it
slim quest
That would be great
chilly fulcrum
i did try to skip some things yesterday (its an old lineage, usually easy to skip stuff) but i couldnt
fairly sure the polish mountain goofiness can be skipped though
i promise this was an accident and i totally was not going against my directive to not make anything new....
slim quest
*that looks like syllabic character 👀 *
chilly fulcrum
its coptic
chilly fulcrum
wililng to try get from kwakiutl to the language easier? would skip stuff
i can try for a bit
cause all the stuff on the left isnt tools whereas the things on the right kinda are
slim quest
maybe yea
chilly fulcrum
cause there it looks like lineage for dene tha' is missing now, and we didnt do georgian language in the pic but i guess it was explained. i mean i can make my own one if im too picky lul
unique acorn
https://discord.com/channels/1203527044957208596/1206592567622373446/12152355258...
talking of coptic, didn't even know i contributed Coptic to infinibrowser lol
chilly fulcrum
nice
chilly fulcrum
Ill make one when the bot starts working
why do you need to wait for bot? just curious
i dont have a problem with it but i am curious
slim quest
why do you need to wait for bot? just curious
so I can get the lineages, I used alphabets to get Geogian Language
"georgian-" + Polish Language = Georgian Language
chilly fulcrum
ohhh
well we have the lineage dont we? i can make it tbf
only 48 to go
like greek alphabet + translation + (georgia + language) is most of the way there no?
slim quest
yeah
chilly fulcrum
ok, well it’s pretty good still like even if you need to use a hi Mr to skip parts of it it’s not that bad if it’s only a few steps
the guide will direct them for it anyway
sonic heart
U+F956 unnecessarily annoying to get
chilly fulcrum
where screen shots D:
sonic heart
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa i dont feeeel like it
sonic heart
U+F956 unnecessarily annoying to get
chilly fulcrum
U+F956 unnecessarily annoying to get
what was like, annoying about it - what didnt work
sonic heart
everything
lethal nymph
why don't you try going for it by the meaning
sonic heart
it either skipped to f957 or didnt make what i wanted it to
chilly fulcrum
why did you start back at f94c
but i really really want to see what your boards look like and how you deal with it when stuff doesnt work
sonic heart
why did you start back at f94c
accidentally
i accidentally got that mr. while trying to increment
sonic heart
why don't you try going for it by the meaning
google translate only uses the first one
sonic heart
like where things line up
i dont lol
lethal nymph
oh it's a compatibility ideograph
sonic heart
ye lol
chilly fulcrum
hm ok well they are placed like suspiciously close together
sonic heart
an example of f9xx being annoying as fuck to increment
sonic heart
"hi Seq. " worked
sonic heart
f95b
chilly fulcrum
still >40 invalid ; ;
sonic heart
f95b
f95c
first time ive seen a white square as the emoji ever since that one time that emojis just stopped working after a while lol
chilly fulcrum
well its not a white square, its a white square with black border 🤓
sonic heart
wow, thank you for your wisdom
sage wren
first time ive seen a white square as the emoji ever since that one time that em...
i also had one just recently but i forgot which
chilly fulcrum
me if i was evil: runs script to protect every cell except for invalid recipe cells 😈
(scripts can do this)
sonic heart
Oh no
chilly fulcrum
yeah but see keyword if
I don’t think I’m evil…
but i also dont like lying about recipes... which is why i hate invalid
echo wasp
what was like, annoying about it - what didnt work
what about you try it first 😈
echo wasp
f95c
I would try to help but i think getting to this point would be like an element grind of 300 elements and I'm not about to do that
hmm what if I get it illegally
sonic heart
You would need to get a bunch of elements since I've been incrementing pretty much since f900
echo wasp
oh gosh
sonic heart
However there are ways to skip some elements so yeah
echo wasp
I wonder if codepoints work
sonic heart
Idfk
sonic heart
It's 11pm for me so you're gonna have to find out on your own 👍
echo wasp
bruh it keeps fuking emojis
sage wren
fuqin
echo wasp
thats it i might just get it the illegal way
sage wren
sounds like a chinese instrument
sonic heart
bruh it keeps fuking emojis
That's what I'm sayin
echo wasp
thats it i might just get it the illegal way
I'll do the crime on a separate savefile
sonic heart
Or just increment a lot
echo wasp
noooo my wifi
this + Unicode Arabic = f961
[f961] + [f95f] = [f962]
I can't add rn
chilly fulcrum
i never actually taught myself how 2 cheat stuff in
like how to cheat in elements for purposes like this
if its annoying to obtain its a sign that documentation isnt up to scratch or it needs optimisation, i do not want to go down the rabbit hole of going "oh well ill just cheat it in"
chilly fulcrum
i dont subscribe to that ideology you see
chilly fulcrum
freed u guys of an invalid in Hangul, looks like genuine mistake like bergoros said
same for the other hangul one
damn bergoros is good at this
chilly fulcrum
looks like i typoed alot in cjk sheet, fixed 8
tysm, legend! Do you think you could do any more? some of them hopefully should be easy enough
lethal nymph
it has always been sending data to mika
tepid blaze
yeah but why a error tho
lethal nymph
well it recently broke somehow
night dragon
the bot is down?
lethal nymph
have to ask mika to know
tepid blaze
the bot is down?
been a long time #recipe-lookup message
abstract marsh
alright
abstract marsh
tysm, legend! Do you think you could do any more? some of them hopefully should ...
lets see
( from my save file none, but i might had closer element to nearby range of invalids )
abstract marsh
yeah imma check on some of these
tepid blaze
yeah for this one its Mr. 坳 + Remove The Mr. (tested via api)
abstract marsh
how do one even get "xin"
chilly fulcrum
yeah for this one its `Mr. 坳` + `Remove The Mr.` (tested via api)
is there a link for how to make that Mr.? if not we need one
abstract marsh
is there a link for how to make that Mr.? if not we need one
#1206592567622373446 message found the origin
chilly fulcrum
okay, link it and we are off to the races
night dragon
https://discord.com/channels/1203527044957208596/1206592567622373446/12658720156...
oh mb
abstract marsh
alright
chilly fulcrum
minus social credit, smh
night dragon
i am so 坳 rn
chilly fulcrum
(totally know what it means)
night dragon
sage wren
you're so depression right now? never knew that's an adjective
night dragon
you're so depression right now? never knew that's an adjective
anything can be an adjective
i fell niko, niko niko niko
sage wren
anything can be an adjective
anything is actually only a pronoun, noun, and adverb
night dragon
*niko can be an adjective
sage wren
Niko is a name
althoughh i wont exactly deny that niko can be an adjective
hausdorff is a name too
but its an adjective
night dragon
sorry ic says you're a noun
sage wren
Closest you got is a niko-niko, which is a type of calendar
night dragon
which also means smile in japanese
sage wren
which also means smile in japanese
that's nikoniko fraud you lose again
☝️☝️☝️☝️ this is me waving my finger at you
night dragon
does your finger have bones
sage wren
no sorry i ate all my bones
grim crane
depression means low-lying area
a sunken place or hollow on a surface
not that depression
twin bay
Quite a low depth Chinese character FD. 27-step 朮 (U+672E) ```asciidoc
Water + Earth = Plant
Earth + Plant = Tree
Water + Tree = River
Earth + River = Delta
Tree + River = Paper
Plant + Paper = Book
Delta + Book = Alphabet // 7
Alphabet + Book = Dictionary
Alphabet + Dictionary = Language
Language + Wind = Poetry
Earth + Poetry = Haiku
Haiku + Language = Japanese
Alphabet + Japanese = Katakana
Fire + Katakana = Hiragana // 14
Language + Language = Translation
Language + Water = Spit
Spit + Translation = Spell
Spell + Translation = Spellcheck
Hiragana + Spellcheck = ひらがな // 19
Earth + Wind = Dust
Dust + ひらがな = あ
Tree + あ = 木
ひらがな + 木 = き
Water + き = く
Earth + く = つ
つ + 木 = 末
く + 末 = 朮 // 27 ::
chilly fulcrum
hm damn already a few options there actually with a lot of chars, i got lost trying to follow it cause there was a few stages i could have branched, i tried to just remember it but i ended up going very wrong xd
chilly fulcrum
Quite a low depth Chinese character FD. 27-step `朮` (U+672E) ```asciidoc
Water +...
lol there is numerous characters in here we dont have
hold up let me do em all
slate whale
this is invalid?
chilly fulcrum
i think that recipe is fine, but he put something else there
he put seq. {b2f} + Next stuff
slate whale
in the image its 0b2e
sand coral
this is invalid?
Fixed
abstract marsh
stalking
slate whale
i just looked at cell history
slate whale
i did
chilly fulcrum
are these fixed or not?
slate whale
probably someone forgot to change the text
echo wasp
if its annoying to obtain its a sign that documentation isnt up to scratch or it...
I'm not saying it needs optimisation
no one even needs those unicodes
sage wren
no one even needs those unicodes
i do!
slate whale
also these 2 give 5402 and 5403
sage wren
now that we've established someone needs them Optimise them
echo wasp
its not even that I want to get them, it's that I want to help, and the only way is getting it which I won't bother with. its just an extra long chain, so if you wanna "optimise" it, it's like removing chains completely
slate whale
also these 2 give 5402 and 5403
ig i remove them
echo wasp
its not even that I want to get them, it's that I want to help, and the only way...
you have done chains of 128 before, and you know that it's gonna be torture to follow
chilly fulcrum
ehh, i dont mind
echo wasp
...exactly
chilly fulcrum
more chars in my save is more chars in my save ill take it
chilly fulcrum
ig i remove them
well they arent "fixed" they are more "removed" - i guess i wasnt clear with what i wanted "fixed" to mean
i wanted it to mean that we have a working recipe for it now
slate whale
this isnt from the chain
slate whale
i wanted it to mean that we have a working recipe for it now
i can't just find that character
chilly fulcrum
no of course
slate whale
(unless im lucky)
echo wasp
this + Unicode Arabic = f961
fixed
slate whale
i will say Removed
chilly fulcrum
i marked them red and said "mistake - unticked"
do whatever
as long as you dont put invalid (it will mess up the counter)
...
slate whale
?
slate whale
.
chilly fulcrum
alright
20 to go
Hopefully home stretch, maybe check save file for chars? I could try make a tool for it
echo wasp
not worth it
chilly fulcrum
id say it is tho, could be quick resolution to other invalids
echo wasp
you think people would just so happen to have these invalids? also you can just uncheck then ask them to run the script again...
chilly fulcrum
you are right i could un tick them and do that, as for people having them... yes? theres a couple that you put in still
did you get 576e? thats invalid rn
can someone check this via api? xin + 中文
if i run this it doesnt give what the script says... maybe the unicode is different
presumably you have 39da and 39db since its part of a chain you put in, im guessing its just meant to be next letter or it skipped one without you noticing
@tepid blaze hmm... did the quotes get removed for this recipe? xin + 中文 does not give what the entry in the sheet in invalids says, but "xin" + 中文 does....
let me pull up natas list
hmm cant remember where i put it
yo @lethal nymph are you able to check to see if your list has any of the invalids? i think it might have a couple
lethal nymph
i accidentally nuked some json files a while back, i can still look in the logs though
what are said characters
chilly fulcrum
i will have to copy paste them i think
theres a sheet for them but ill try copy em
윽폀뉍㧚㧛唂唃坮心戟烤牫牮犯糆紅罻脱艠蔔蔥蘿鏜鹤𠅫
includes some we are pretty sure were ticked by mistake
but why not check
echo wasp
心...
chilly fulcrum
while you are at it, can you do the others you have? theres at least 2
lethal nymph
3 + 情 = 心
chilly fulcrum
yeah i didnt say to do it now, sorry if it wasnt clear
chilly fulcrum
ok- lineages for those plz (i prefer back to 2 letter if able)
chilly fulcrum
my recipe for "quotation marks" is also cringe
echo wasp
脱
chilly fulcrum
?
chilly fulcrum
okay nice
how about "quotation marks"
im not gonna use "prependtwoquota''tio-n'marks"
lethal nymph
yea i don't have any of the other ones
"the Apostrophe" + Prepend Colon + Quotation Marks + [/inst]
chilly fulcrum
inst 💀
k
thats such a cursed recipe? sorry i have to say that
also really you dont have an y others? if you look at the sheet at the invalids tab some of them have recipes which you tried in the brute force, i would have thought at least one of them would just be "oops wrong recipe" instead of "oops wrong element"
idk where i put the file
💀
lethal nymph
"grilled" + 简体中文 = 烤
pulsar island
lethal nymph
犯
chilly fulcrum
rip deviate isnt on browser anyway
might be better building that with alts ngl
whats that char so i can copy it
sand coral
rip deviate isnt on browser anyway
#1224529054716264580 message
lethal nymph
Crimson + 漢字 = 紅
chilly fulcrum
whats that near triangle looking char
lethal nymph
Crimson + 漢字 = 紅
- Red is easier i guess
lethal nymph
whats that near triangle looking char
you mean ア
chilly fulcrum
ye ty
lethal nymph
also really you dont have an y others? if you look at the sheet at the invalids ...
my list didn't have much cjk
echo wasp
39da
sand coral
Alt 8131
idk which one is better
中文 on browser
chilly fulcrum
my list didn't have much cjk
yeah but like, i can tell that these are definitely from your brute force
the recipes at least
echo wasp
Alt 8131
idk which one is better
中文 on browser
i mean u didnt need to give that much lineage
chilly fulcrum
it can't hurt!
echo wasp
it hurts the creator
chilly fulcrum
uh huh, thats the sacrifice we all make, to ensure good documentation
echo wasp
简体中文
echo wasp
uh huh, thats the sacrifice we all make, to ensure good documentation
i dont make that sacrifice sadly
chilly fulcrum
简体中文
yeah sure thats far enough back, but i would never discourage going the extra mile for the sake of others
chilly fulcrum
cool, hit us up with recipe and we put it in
echo wasp
directly next codepoint
lethal nymph
yeah but like, i can tell that these are definitely from your brute force
i'm pretty sure i never reached 4xxx
chilly fulcrum
not with inputs sure
lethal nymph
yea i've only bruteforced 2xxx
chilly fulcrum
you did 30xx tho
echo wasp
yeah sure thats far enough back, but i would never discourage going the extra mi...
i thought i had already psoted it, thats why.
(as it turns out, i did but never made it search-friendly)
chilly fulcrum
i will try a deviate i guess
i thought i was so smart for making "devi8"
turns out it doesnt see the connection
pulsar island
found a better recipe
echo wasp
try continuing the chain
pulsar island
cool, hit us up with recipe and we put it in
the first recipe was an accident lol with unassigned character so i couldnt find him again
chilly fulcrum
can check console
also wtf never seen this random unquote without mixing alt alphabet??
lethal nymph
it does that if the combination is too obvious
chilly fulcrum
danm we fixed a blank one? didnt expect that
echo wasp
inst isnt even that bad now
echo wasp
not many branches ngl
maybe like one branch or two
why is the quoted version not fd but the unquoted version is
abstract marsh
someone gave up or accidental craft then left alone
chilly fulcrum
hmmm i mean any branch at all id like to see the board at its messiest
echo wasp
for what
echo wasp
there really isnt a "hard" barrier break - its either it works, or it doesnt
chilly fulcrum
anything requiring branching
chilly fulcrum
damn i cant make "deviate" without appends
cause i need to learn how to keep track of stuff when branches required
it makes devit or evitat always
echo wasp
cause i need to learn how to keep track of stuff when branches required
you just gotte pick it up eventually
best to just be yourself
chilly fulcrum
interesting, i mean i tried a lot of numbers
not 12 i guess
ok, i need to go to bed
i didnt put in the deviate one, but we can do it now
only 10 invalid to go!
sonic heart
I mean, it is breaking a barrier, so..
abstract marsh
i thought it was something 2d to 2e until i read the codepoint
chilly fulcrum
ok for the remaining ones can y’all check your saves plz
if nobody has I will consider it “solved”
and we can resume normal activity
echo wasp
me when i want to extract 008d
abstract marsh
my normal activity involves procrastinating unknown amount of duration
echo wasp
oh nvm 3f to 40
urm, it was bf to 40
chilly fulcrum
Did you somehow split 8d from the A
abstract marsh
ah
echo wasp
no
sonic heart
urm, it was bf to 40
Wait wha
chilly fulcrum
okay
echo wasp
chilly fulcrum
hi sequoia
echo wasp
why does it keep becoming i
sand coral
825e
chilly fulcrum
why does it keep becoming i
What was the recipe for the original thing with 8d in it? (Yes this is to try answer your question)
sonic heart
why does it keep becoming i
Isn't 008d already found...? (I can't check the sheet rn)
echo wasp
A + String.touppercase()
lethal nymph
it's probably not even on sheet lol
abstract marsh
using unfound element 🗿 what beef is going on
chilly fulcrum
008d is a control
echo wasp
im aware yes
chilly fulcrum
controls interestingly don’t count in the main bucket of Unicodes
I thought they would
But in the official count of 149,183 they are not included
abstract marsh
it Controls 👀
chilly fulcrum
The next level of broadness includes PUA as well
giving a total of 289,460 reserved codepoints
of which 149,813 are characters
echo wasp
my first ever Mr. Ih recipe
sonic heart
008d is a control
Wha
chilly fulcrum
65 controls 66 noncharacters 2048 surrogates 137,468 private use
sonic heart
Imagine if someone found u+0000
chilly fulcrum
Null byte is really hard to store
echo wasp
i mean no one even has U+001f or below in a string yet
chilly fulcrum
most databases just reject them
I’d be very very surprised if it is even representable in the database
@lethal nymph what if you try cheating in a surrogate or U+0000 null?
I’d be surprised if they don’t get deleted or throw an error
echo wasp
Imagine if someone found u+0000
honestly tho i'll be very surprised if someone does find a control or surrogate
graceful marsh
Oh hey fuezt is back
graceful marsh
Original
chilly fulcrum
hmm
He said he got compromised and someone else logged in as him
what if it’s them
graceful marsh
My Discord did the thing where it slingshots me like seventeen years into the past and I noticed the colour was back
chilly fulcrum
Yay only 6 to go I wish I could give like a 20% pay rise but 120% of 0 is still 0 💀
chilly fulcrum
Okay. Amazing job you did so well I am so happy. You are now free to do other things as normal
sand coral
I was in slavery 😢
sage wren
wont be the last time
chilly fulcrum
Uh oh… 😬
I suppose I could have unticked them and moved on, at least once the easiest ones were done (approx 12 hours ago)
Or even earlier
I’ll untick the remaining ones and delete the sheet
Or hide it
Archiving is better than deleting
ok done
gg
echo wasp
I was in slavery 😢
rubiks how could you put him through slavery for unicode characters
it's incredibly inethical
sage wren
bergoros was enslaved
sage wren
This is Infinite Craftia, what did you expect
echo wasp
uhh not slavery
sage wren
rookie mistake
candid trellis
Infinite Slavery
graceful marsh
Ironically the map I'm working on right now is about slavery
sage wren
Ironically the map I'm working on right now is about slavery
can you add a tiny asd onto the map
graceful marsh
Which map
candid trellis
Ironically the map I'm working on right now is about slavery
is made by slaves*
graceful marsh
One pixel
echo wasp
like a really tiny picture of asd just sitting around
...how did u get a pic of me
graceful marsh
Your mother
candid trellis
is dead
sage wren
...how did u get a pic of me
sage wren
this is u
sage wren
god told me
graceful marsh
I love software
echo wasp
...
graceful marsh
Fuckin' turned you into a wanted poster from Tuscaloosa County Sheriff Office
sage wren
sage wren
this is as tiny as possible keeping the details
pulsar island
graceful marsh
Oh wow
abstract marsh
Yay only 6 to go I wish I could give like a 20% pay rise but 120% of 0 is still ...
damn i didnt know i signed in to corrupt bounty cooperations
sage wren
it's always been there, you've just never noticed
tepid blaze
<@824352942156283954> hmm... did the quotes get removed for this recipe? xin + 中...
Idk
pulsar island
chilly fulcrum
I’ve got some big recent motivation to work on guide I think in the coming days you will be surprised
chilly fulcrum
yeah but I gotta document it all - don’t worry I’m happy to
slim quest
yeah but I gotta document it all - don’t worry I’m happy to
I see haha
chilly fulcrum
progress:
pulsar island
yeah but I gotta document it all - don’t worry I’m happy to
Okkkk
chilly fulcrum
(i am on trackpad i am not going to be making the lineage for it because that would be painful)
pulsar island
Lolol dw
chilly fulcrum
honestly it could just end up being unicode + like just the actual IC guide at this point
most tech is used here in some capacity
chilly fulcrum
i opened the access to any sheet editor, but if you want to help i wont hesitate to let u for this
slim quest
If you need any help with lineages/try to optimise smthing a bit, I can try do some stuffs
chilly fulcrum
im just writing mostly rn, although i am leaving notes for ppl to fix up later like, i dont have a great notation for referring to different quote types yet (i have one i use in conversation here but in the doc i guess i never got to it and then crunch time came and i realised i never introduced it)
slim quest
fd??
chilly fulcrum
couldnt find a good place to mention that you actually need to exit the altphabet (or string thing idk how to say it)
i say this because im about to warn the user that curlies are harder to exit than say ", but i realised i have not mentioned that exiting is a thing you need to do yet
chilly fulcrum
me after writing 10000 word doc: 😴
trim pond
now every unicode character combination in arrayland
sonic heart
I don't have a single string.append/prepend lol
night dragon
did you get 576e? thats invalid rn
i didnt get it crap 😭 alsdkfjladsjaldsjflkadsjlf jlksajfsadlfjsaflsajfasflkdjsalfdjslkfdjlsjfsa
uhhhhhhh i realllly need to double check unicodes
chilly fulcrum
you dont quintuple-double-triple-check every time? banned.
smh "editor"
we all make mistake dw ¯_(ツ)_/¯
i probably have made the most mistakes
night dragon
aarghaghhg
chilly fulcrum
as long as you learn for next time its all good
night dragon
U+5E2B, 5E08, 8B77, 885B
chilly fulcrum
me uen i
chilly fulcrum
Idk
can you run diff again? hopefully nothing comes up on new csv
and it also should put everything into ur db right
tepid blaze
yeah
Self-referential recipe found: ['INSCRIPTIONAL PARTHIAN LETTER BETH', '10B41', '68417', '𐭁', 'TRUE' , '𐭁', 'Next Letter', 'Alt: The Correct Charcode + U+1d681']
chilly fulcrum
hmmm
i guess i fixed it wrong
easy fix tho
ok should be good
to run and get yours up to date
and 0 invalid
tepid blaze
i already got some invalid too (except if its a bug)
chilly fulcrum
ah you did? okay
i unticked the ones that were left
ig they were fixed wrong
cause i did fix that one wrong
what are the ones you have so far
tepid blaze
chilly fulcrum
there shouldnt be more than like, a few (i hope)
chilly fulcrum
okay, so far i see new stuff
one of them is typo
easy fix
lol 100 + 000
seems legit
tepid blaze
got 3 more for the moment
chilly fulcrum
the other reason i didnt want people to put in new stuff is it makes your script take longer
and makes you need to do extra work
although i didnt communicate that particularly well.. i think i forgot that that was the reason xd
tepid blaze
its not really that annoying anyway lol, i am playing truckers mp (ETS2) while it run
tepid blaze
願望 + Delete First Character = 願
Invalid Recipe For U+7D3A : (紺)
紲 + Next Letter = 紳
Invalid Recipe For U+8131 : (脱)
逸脱 + Delete Last Character = 逸
Invalid Recipe For U+F9D9 : (慄)
U+fa7f + Cjk Next Directly Unicode = 刺
ok, lmk when finished
oh, so now if you run diff it should take like 20 sec right?
since it got updated
tepid blaze
oh, so now if you run diff it should take like 20 sec right?
yep it was
chilly fulcrum
okay, send full output and that should be good
tepid blaze
```Invalid Recipe For U+7858 : (硘)
願望 + Delete First Character = 願
Invalid Reci...
that is finished
chilly fulcrum
ok, it was just for combining the first and 2nd half
cause separate rn
but i can copy them together
tepid blaze
well here it is
chilly fulcrum
t y
only 8, most are from fixing incorrectly
yep that one was my bad
脱....
bruh
lol
chilly fulcrum
ok 6 to go, one of them has an equal sign in the recipe 💀
sand coral
8131 fixed
pulsar island
What are the broken ones?
chilly fulcrum
8131 fixed
i thought i did this already?
sand coral
i thought i did this already?
uhh idk, I fixed it anyway 🙂
chilly fulcrum
lol
ok, all it needed was to change delete last character to delete first character
which i did and put fixed - maybe it dementia'd my edits 💀
oh hmm
i think what i put in might just be like a simpler version
wheres all the flip the order type thing
those are old right
echo wasp
you dont quintuple-double-triple-check every time? banned.
no one does that lol
chilly fulcrum
well yes, of course it is a joke
echo wasp
yeah dw I get it
tepid blaze
no one does that lol
technically i do, i check a shitty ton of time before putting anything (all the time obsessively)
chilly fulcrum
i did used to check obsessively, but eventually a sort of complacency sets in and it wears off as with like literally anything with humans
tepid blaze
i did used to check obsessively, but eventually a sort of complacency sets in an...
for me it never stop, i am always too focused on what i do, so i check a bit obsessively (in every game or even just anything)
chilly fulcrum
i guess now it might be "worse" since of input tool which cant make a mistake if used correctly (and i guess if no silly google sheets bug)
it didnt make one yet so its a good sign at least
ill un tick these unless you have em
theyre all recent so
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HWVQGmqJ_ZkUMS_4xgFf9AiHRbwEqIhF5zFsnNLR4sQ/edit im writing the alt alphabets part rn
i think i did okeay with it, i left tons of notes to fix up but im moving on to the deletes and removes part
night dragon
u+758e
tepid blaze
i would have loved to help for the guide, but i ain't good at explaining sadly
chilly fulcrum
well see thats where teamwork comes in - if you want you can write down the general idea even if it isnt good and we can then clean it up
its much easier to write when theres words on the page already, even if they are a jumbled mess
echo wasp
... who changed b9cc
night dragon
lol
echo wasp
also the hi one is very easy to fix lol
chilly fulcrum
ohhh
i know what happened with b9cc
i think
10,000 is (incorrectly) interpreted as 10, 000, ing2, note
for the csv
i changed the format to be plain text everything (i did this already but idk) - really hope this didnt break anything
its cause 10,000 is a valid number
but somehow sheets is too stupid (?) to see - or the delimiter is just not quite right - i dont actually know what to do about that
memo: try not to use things with commas
adding to main page
please do NOT use elements with commas or + sign surrounded by spaces
echo wasp
not sure if this would be useful
night dragon
why and how did i just only get code right now
echo wasp
...predictable
kinda
3780
why is it that when i check the box it becomes like this
?????
@chilly fulcrum can you see if its just a me problem
