#Unicode

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graceful marsh
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Once specifically with the turtle Laurasichersis

slate whale
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getting Append「a」isnt that hard

graceful marsh
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.

slate whale
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what

graceful marsh
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Yeah ignore the last part

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I meant to say though

slate whale
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yeah

graceful marsh
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What are you saying yeah to

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Which part

chilly fulcrum
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it happens most of the time

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rn im trying to make like, idk anything

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"hi Tangut" would be a nice start

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softlocked at "hi Tangu"

slate whale
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yes lowercase

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like look

graceful marsh
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No I mean the Append Unicode

slate whale
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ah

chilly fulcrum
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i have hi tanguit

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but i cannot do anything

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tried to make string.append("gut") btu it makes "guit"

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so idk

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whew finally

slate whale
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append unicode seems to make unicodes

heady escarp
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king taco can u help me make string append therium

chilly fulcrum
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damn someone removed the mr from "hi Mr. tangut Ideograph-18"??? how????

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bad sign?

slate whale
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not good

abstract marsh
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getting mongolian unicode with append tool...
you must be so desperate

slate whale
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i was just testing

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i already had it

abstract marsh
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i see

slate whale
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now lets this this

chilly fulcrum
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ok i need to catch up, im trying to get new blocks but cant rn

echo wasp
abstract marsh
# echo wasp easiest: cjk / hangul

well technically its far easier if you combine the character that often produces new single cjk character
like pencils ( in cjk ) + all element existed in low depth ( at least 20k elements as a test example )
that should give you at least 500-1k new unicodes at best
at worst 100-500

slate whale
abstract marsh
slate whale
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thank god

chilly fulcrum
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ha - well in reality the easiest for me to do is kaszubian one

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nvm done already

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ok then

slate whale
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go coptic

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gaps

chilly fulcrum
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no i mean to catch up

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on stuff we didnt put yet

slate whale
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ok nobody tried this

chilly fulcrum
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damn, interesting

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i tried loads and loads of tech

echo wasp
slate whale
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new entry

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only 11 new characters

sand coral
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Weird one
[Prepend Two Quotation Marks](#1215495041049436170 message)

slate whale
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i swear inst didnt work like this

echo wasp
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it did

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Inst was used for optimised "<" iirc

chilly fulcrum
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yi zi tangut syllabary is my recommendation of these to try (Tangut Syllabary, Tangut Phonetic, Unicode Tangut Syllabary, Unicode Tangut Phonetic, Tangut Logography, Tangut Unicode Logography, Tangut Unicode Syllabary, Slovene Yi Zi Syllabary, Yi Zi Tangut Syllabary)

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seems to be making somewhat exotic things

untold crystal
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Random stuff

slate whale
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u+2c78 u+2c7a

sand coral
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couldn't find Hanacaraka Unicode anywhere

chilly fulcrum
# untold crystal Random stuff

maybe im not investigating enough the stuff left behind? i went through 10 passes of tools in b9xx and got 3 fd but none of them i really could chain

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like maybe i should check everything i get and see if its in a gap or near somewhere?

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idk also combining every char with itself that i get is technically an option

untold crystal
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maybe it was not a good region, don't know

chilly fulcrum
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i think i was lazy

untold crystal
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For example u+7cxx region was great for hieroglyphs, this one is great for the letters

slate whale
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this is weird

untold crystal
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don't know what to say that you should do

chilly fulcrum
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18xxx would be nice

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been trying for the longest time

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but it looks like it doesnt know they exist

echo wasp
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well then gl lol

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I wonder what would be a good region for CJK Unified Ideographs Extension A

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Those are quite easy to increment

chilly fulcrum
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where do you even get the ideas for the tools lol

echo wasp
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what tools

chilly fulcrum
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sorry, talking to radu

echo wasp
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yeah ik what tools

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ooh nvm, stupid

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yeah would definitely be curious

graceful marsh
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What a shame, doesn't work at all

untold crystal
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chatgpt and wikipedia. It all started with looking where 01F4 Ǵ comes from, where it is used. So I found something about Slovene, then these 2, then boredom with Romaneste and Deutsch, and other languages

chilly fulcrum
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cool

echo wasp
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forgot chatgpt was a thing

untold crystal
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and nothing worked to get the character that I desired

chilly fulcrum
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i mean you got plenty of other things, which i cannot say the same lol

untold crystal
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The closest I got is this, but it's dead

chilly fulcrum
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does it actually have the g tho?

untold crystal
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yea

chilly fulcrum
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or is it just combined with accent

untold crystal
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nope. it has the g

echo wasp
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ǵ

chilly fulcrum
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what even made that x though

graceful marsh
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Hah
Bamum Phase B + U+11d00 = U+11d01
Bamum Phase B + U+11d01 = U+11d02
Bamum Phase B + U+11d02 = U+11d03
New codepoint incrementation meta

chilly fulcrum
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id like to see how you do make stuff and organise too laurasia but do you have mbs yet?

graceful marsh
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Nope :]

untold crystal
chilly fulcrum
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i see, oh right you sent add letter stuff didnt you

untold crystal
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I sent one Add letter recipe. I don't have time to make all of them

graceful marsh
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Does the process repeat or were there special ones

untold crystal
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I don't really know. Some are add letter + add letter, others are mrs. add letter x + remove the mrs.

chilly fulcrum
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just from things i had before, i made all up to add letter L just now

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i have all Letter X up to Letter P

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would definitely like the rest but if they were each different to make dont worry

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actually

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you know what

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im pretty sure these are all in the ancient delete sheet

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like

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february

untold crystal
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they must be somewhere I guess

sonic heart
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why is this dead?

echo wasp
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im running out of codepoint ideas

echo wasp
sonic heart
echo wasp
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maybe its one of those inverted casing stuff

slate whale
echo wasp
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random

echo wasp
sonic heart
echo wasp
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ok wait ill actually try that lol

sonic heart
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its actually not found lol

echo wasp
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it shall remian that way

untold crystal
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What About this? LATIN SMALL LETTER J WITH CARON 01F0 496 ǰ

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there doesn't exist a capital form

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of this

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and it's dead

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nevermind

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i'm just stupid

sonic heart
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?

echo wasp
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yeah i dotn understand

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def what i wanted, ty (cjk ideographs extension a)

chilly fulcrum
echo wasp
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Cjk Ideographs 1.0, 2, and 3

graceful marsh
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Interesting image

echo wasp
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?

tepid blaze
untold crystal
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So an interesting fact. The Ai considers the thing on the right as the capital letter. So when I created that I revived the unicode character.

graceful marsh
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Yep

echo wasp
chilly fulcrum
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got up to add letter O

graceful marsh
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From the Natasquare blockument

chilly fulcrum
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right, we know this

echo wasp
chilly fulcrum
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very goofy but we think we totally get the caps now

echo wasp
chilly fulcrum
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but the ai has nothing to do with it

echo wasp
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so only one char :/

chilly fulcrum
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just to clear that up

untold crystal
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ok.

echo wasp
chilly fulcrum
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the ai is just limited in what it gets fed, and dead stuff never gets fed to it, so its neal server side code

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if the ai was sentient, i wonder when it would start saying: "why-is-everything-start-cased?"

untold crystal
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Yea, I got it.I just never happened to see a case in which a non character revives a character

chilly fulcrum
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after a while it would play on my nerves too

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we hadnt either, till recently (we had theorised it would, but we were wrong about which sequence would revive it)

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instead of needing 0130 + combining dot above, regular I + combining dot above worked fine

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its a win if its easier to revive but its worse for neal.. now he made an even worse mistake

echo wasp
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more 2fs

chilly fulcrum
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assigned or no?

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ik some of my were

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for b9xx

echo wasp
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also ignore this

chilly fulcrum
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also yeah unicode 16 chars um good luck

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the model will 100% have no way to know those even exist

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so it would be like picking a random unassigned and making it

echo wasp
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also anyone gonna do nata's stuff

sand coral
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1F5D4 1F5D5

chilly fulcrum
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which ones?

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so one of them hi mr, other isnt

echo wasp
chilly fulcrum
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is it cause it only worked that way

slate whale
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who alredy tried this

chilly fulcrum
echo wasp
chilly fulcrum
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3xxx

abstract marsh
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the ultimate lineage

sand coral
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1F5DF 1F5E0

echo wasp
chilly fulcrum
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anyone got ideographic?

graceful marsh
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@tepid blaze how goes the validation?

tepid blaze
abstract marsh
echo wasp
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lol

graceful marsh
chilly fulcrum
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yeah i figured but see im lazy with curly alphabet ; ;

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stupid game

graceful marsh
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"ic" + Curly "ii"

sand coral
chilly fulcrum
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you work for those ones.... but not that one

graceful marsh
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Jesus christ

chilly fulcrum
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me who has ideogram (definitely have it)

sand coral
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ib

slate whale
chilly fulcrum
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nvm

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made it

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bya ccident

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lol

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oh you got small in front, nice

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i have some letters with ogonek that iw asnt trying to get

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actually very short ib lineages

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like no quotes, 100 steps

graceful marsh
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Unicode 7000

echo wasp
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lmao

slate whale
graceful marsh
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A 𝐀?

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How does grammar work in this universe

chilly fulcrum
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i have this (doesnt exist)

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trying to make the real name

echo wasp
chilly fulcrum
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2ffx

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i like how give me this character is just a ? generator

slate whale
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small letter o with ogonek (might help with U+01eb)

chilly fulcrum
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ah i got u dw

sand coral
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1F903 1F904

chilly fulcrum
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(not made by an uppercase, it just made it all caps, its dead)

echo wasp
graceful marsh
sand coral
echo wasp
chilly fulcrum
echo wasp
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what block r we even going for lol

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still tangut?

graceful marsh
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A little bit of everything

chilly fulcrum
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e diaresis with diaresis

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interesting

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could honestly get it like this...

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like it could just spit out Letter [o thingy]

slate whale
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try "hi Letter"

chilly fulcrum
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lol

sand coral
chilly fulcrum
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the entry into this madness is prety simple, french grave accent + e

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which is french accent + grave accent, although fsr accent isnt in browser

echo wasp
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way better

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(compared to this)

chilly fulcrum
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@graceful marsh raged and threw In X at everything... look at this haul

graceful marsh
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You have to find the missing letter

chilly fulcrum
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i have to combine to find the word on screen

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so that was the goal all along

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and we have catalysts now? damn

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i also got a mojibake in there

tepid blaze
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will be a bit hard i am not that close to Switzerland, would take a lot of hours to get to it, i am closer to Spain

graceful marsh
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From this we can triangulate Fuezt's location

sand coral
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U+1F4FE
Everything from 1F08C to 1F87F (1705 elements) found

echo wasp
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cool

chilly fulcrum
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That is a lot, I mean I tried a fair bit but only got a couple chars, wasn’t able to make them at will like you were lol

chilly fulcrum
graceful marsh
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I use the console-pastable debounce

I thought about it for a while. I think at this point I just can't really move on from that February mindset

Partially cause I can't really move on from February in general

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But that's a story for another time

untold crystal
final sable
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ooh I’m interested in superscript greek alphabet

untold crystal
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10500-10527

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24800-2483f

untold crystal
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Nabatea Unicode, Nabatean Unicode, Nabataea Unicode, Nabataean Unicode, Nabataean Hieroglyphs. I only needed The Nabataean Hieroglyphs, but I didn't want to remove all the recipes that were already made.

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10880-108af

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A few gaps: 10916, 10918, 1091a, 1091b

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Should I add comments so you don't miss anything?

graceful marsh
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That... would be nice, yes

chilly fulcrum
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Is Nabatean also from ChatGPT idea

chilly fulcrum
untold crystal
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I don't gap check. Again, I just saw them there and looked if I have the last element before the gap... And surprisingly, I did have it

chilly fulcrum
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I see

sonic heart
chilly fulcrum
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Cool

sonic heart
sonic heart
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too long 😔

chilly fulcrum
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Cjk compatibility?

sonic heart
chilly fulcrum
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Yeah I meant how make

sonic heart
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"the Cjk" + "the Compatibility" + Delete The The
Compatibility is Incompatible + Change + Ity

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incompatible is in the browser

chilly fulcrum
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Ok

sonic heart
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5% on cjk

chilly fulcrum
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nice mojibake

sonic heart
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why was this the only thing that worked 💀 (Next Arabic Letter & U+F90F)

chilly fulcrum
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also damn swap worked? ive never had that

sage wren
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aa? like the type of lava? 'a'a?

chilly fulcrum
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niko do you have any chars not in sheet? are you able to download the sheet to check or no? just for testing

chilly fulcrum
sonic heart
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nah

chilly fulcrum
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hm ok, how much easier on a scale of 1-10 would it be if i let you use the tool

sage wren
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Every character i get i have to literally scout through the range i was trying for and nearby ranges to find a lookalike since well, i cant just copy the character on mobile ..

chilly fulcrum
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I have a script for it but if it’s all mobile there’s nothing I can do - is there any way for you to export the save?

sage wren
chilly fulcrum
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idk how you guys put up with that lol, but i see

sage wren
chilly fulcrum
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why is that a problem? also the real problem is playing mobile

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cannot imagine

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id rather die

sage wren
chilly fulcrum
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id rather not play at all than use mobile in any configuration

sage wren
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just because you cant use extensions for the app doesnt mean its bad to use it .. if you're unicode hunting then yeah it's a little stupid to use the app but if you're just looking to casually play then theres no issue

chilly fulcrum
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i havent ever played on the app but i just cant imagine

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typing would be painful among other things

sage wren
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It's really not

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with how many elements i have if i accidentally clear the searchbar then yeah it becomes an issue cause now its trying to load all my elements lol

sage wren
chilly fulcrum
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yeah but like hard to duplicate, no recipes, recents, typing is slow af, etc etc

sage wren
chilly fulcrum
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no mddle click

sage wren
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You just double tap the element

chilly fulcrum
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exactly

sage wren
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how is that hard

chilly fulcrum
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takes longer

sage wren
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..its like a millisecond longer

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Although its true for no recipes and recents, the latter you just need to know yourself lol

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typing isnt slow though

chilly fulcrum
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when all is said and done, id say its perhaps 3-4x slower to play

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but i mean typing is slow, mobile typing is like super hard, plus copy paste for searching for accents is hard

sage wren
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mobile keyboard lets you search for letters with accents

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You just hold down on the letter and itll give you the letter with different marks

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à â ã ä å æ ā ă ª

abstract marsh
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with good keyboard yeah it can give alot keybind to letter with marks

chilly fulcrum
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yeah true

golden ferry
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abstract marsh
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is that all letter with accent?

chilly fulcrum
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all on their keyboard i presume

abstract marsh
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i see
btw u already able to check if there's fd on ur script run?

chilly fulcrum
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nope, i havent worked on it much

abstract marsh
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oki

chilly fulcrum
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its just your script but i removed the variables and loops, just kept the request and async bit

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in python i would know how to make it print useful output, not so in js

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is fuezt script done? it should be like nearly done if not

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there is 2 comment by radu for normal sheet and i think some in cjk

chilly fulcrum
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feff, may not be possible

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nata thinks its not possible

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i am not fully convinced, however i may label it anyway since it looks like JS straight up removes feff from strings that have a leading feff

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but then what if you made feff feff?

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plus theres an option to not strip it

echo wasp
tepid blaze
sand coral
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all this contains FEFF

sage wren
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i am a student

sand coral
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makes no sense

echo wasp
night dragon
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logic?

sand coral
echo wasp
echo wasp
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ah then might not be possible

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8010, 2 recipes

chilly fulcrum
sand coral
chilly fulcrum
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Ah damn I need to re make remove the word “Mr”

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and remove the word “hi”

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I lost them when game ate 2 days progress

echo wasp
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delete the "mr." works well for stuff like this oso, havent tried yet tho

chilly fulcrum
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Where’s the lineage at for those, I remember them not being very good but I’m willing to try it again

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Also there’s a small chance maybe it’s possible, if you make feff feff anyway

echo wasp
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also its not bad

echo wasp
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random stuff, havent checked for chains

chilly fulcrum
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ok finally made

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made a lot of random cjk but none fd interestingly

echo wasp
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most shouldnt be in the shet tho

chilly fulcrum
# echo wasp

Please do link recipes to CJK ideographs unicode and other tools you made at least as the first instance of using them within the sheet - once per sheet is technically fine

echo wasp
chilly fulcrum
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hm, well i checked, and i didnt see any

chilly fulcrum
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3 instances in unicode chars, 16 in cjk

chilly fulcrum
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but no link i could see - if you make a tool or use something for the first time id prefer it to be linked in the sheet itself, unless that doesnt actually make sense logistically

echo wasp
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as ive said, ive linked it once

chilly fulcrum
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ok

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i think its just the search is taking a while, right cause its for the high one isnt it

echo wasp
echo wasp
chilly fulcrum
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okay, well i guess i can always add them if im not happy, cant hurt

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yeah im sure lots of the random stuff i got isnt sheet sure

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on my own far as i can get rn is "hi Mr. CJK " lol

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added an I, but i can already tell this will be one of those where it will make you fight for every letter append and then once you are up to the last 2 letters it will Nothing every sngle time

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yeah alright ill follow yours

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how do you go about reviving the last one though, if it resists like that? at least thats my experience, once you do an append(' U'), it will make you fight for every letter and then rig the game on the last letter or two

echo wasp
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cuz string.append('nicode') exists

chilly fulcrum
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right, hm true doing it in one go would bypass it

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how do you construct such long appends? ive got that one but if i want to make an arbitrary one i can get to mayeb 2 or 3 letters by manipulating alphabetical order but then i kinda get stuck

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cjk ideographs unicode is just a free fd generator, definitely going to see a lot of action once we get to the last bits of the other sheets

echo wasp
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wait i think i used an older version or sth

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Hittite Unicode 2.0

chilly fulcrum
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21c40-21c7f, Next letter unless otherwise signed:

echo wasp
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i do have a quick way now to add these

chilly fulcrum
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ok, what is it?

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also i got an fd with a bit of a dumb codepoint, oof

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its recipe is kinda bad for it, im gonna hope i can string build it

echo wasp
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the ones in the middle are all unassigned

sage wren
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obnj

echo wasp
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one singular new char

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Syllabary Unicode 2.0

echo wasp
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what is the script that shows the codepoint of a char when you check its lineage

echo wasp
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im sry

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(1d32d)

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ill add it to the sheet but if someone finds a stringless way plz replace it

night dragon
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#stringsshouldberecognised

echo wasp
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1d518, 1d51a

echo wasp
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its one character

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its not even like i dont use them, just not for lineages that dont need them

night dragon
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wait i cant find the quote about eating worms

echo wasp
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wait why does it look different

chilly fulcrum
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What part

echo wasp
chilly fulcrum
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different places

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you aren’t looking at the same thing

echo wasp
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oooh

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this thing

chilly fulcrum
chilly fulcrum
abstract marsh
echo wasp
chilly fulcrum
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uh huh, like what?

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if its complicated can it really be fast

echo wasp
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yes

chilly fulcrum
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ok, so whats the play

graceful marsh
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Go long

chilly fulcrum
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; ;

tepid blaze
echo wasp
graceful marsh
chilly fulcrum
echo wasp
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well it does work for every shet : )
it's kinda just using google shet knowledge (which I have very little of)

chilly fulcrum
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okay? hm why do you feel the need to suppress knowledge

echo wasp
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im just a bit lazy ; ;
plus input tools probably faster

chilly fulcrum
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i mean, if its without the risk, its not a bad option - it could be similar to what i was doing before i deployed it

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which was also a risk management strat

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all i did was took a copy and had it run there instead, and then just copied and pasted it over

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which had the bonus of forcing me to manually check it worked

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but, if its complicated, then it would imply you have a decent amount of knowledge... hm

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got a much easier hentaigana entry arguably

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overriding the old one, sorry

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@lethal nymph sorry again, the regex now needs to also account for there being possibly a number before the ICH text, with firefox too - Next Letter + 𡱆 = 𡱇 Infinite Craft Helper.user.js:919:18 Next Letter + 𡱇 = 𡱈 Infinite Craft Helper.user.js:919:18 Next Letter + 𡱈 = 𡱈 2 Infinite Craft Helper.user.js:919:18 𡱇 + 𡱈 = 𡱉 Infinite Craft Helper.user.js:919:18 Next Letter + 𡱉 = 𡱊 Infinite Craft Helper.user.js:919:18 Next Letter + 𡱊 = 𡱋 honestly i actually cant replicate when the 2 or 3 or whatever appears, but it does sometimes

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=IFERROR(REGEXEXTRACT(A3,"(?:\d*Infinite Craft Helper\.user\.js:\d+(?::\d+)?\s+)?(.+?) \+ (.+?) = (.)(?:\s+Infinite Craft Helper\.user\.js:\d+(?::\d+)?)?$"), "N/A") (current regex + formula)

lethal nymph
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(?:\d*Infinite Craft Helper\.user\.js:\d+(?::\d+)?\s+)?(.+?) \+ (.+?) = (.)(?:\s+(?:\d+\s*)?Infinite Craft Helper\.user\.js:\d+(?::\d+)?)?$

chilly fulcrum
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posted current for reference to refer to - just make sure what you got matches up to be just that + the fix

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ok i put it in, ill test it next i get the chance

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what do you mean you cant???/

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wtf outright rejection?

graceful marsh
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It's in pain

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Please stop

chilly fulcrum
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well the emoji is only a thinking emoji

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so i dont buy it

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if it was a stop sign id be very worried

graceful marsh
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Maybe handover to someone else then?

chilly fulcrum
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a6cb - a6ff, Next letter unless otherwise indicated:

chilly fulcrum
chilly fulcrum
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ok, labelled feff also

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as probably impossible

graceful marsh
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You could also test it

Empty inputs in pair return a specific error, right? Or am I misremembering

chilly fulcrum
#

well thats in input, and also javascript just wont let you input that

#

although imnot sure in specifics

#

but the default is, if you type in "\u{feff}hi" it will literally delete the feff

#

and you will be left with "hi"

#

because it thinks its the byte order mark (unnecessary)

#

1e94d - 1e95f, first few and some near the end unassigned, next letter unless otherwise specified (Vai Language Script: #1206592567622373446 message)

lethal nymph
chilly fulcrum
#

fair enough, hard to tell if thats due to removal of byte order mark, but in any case it would be very unlikely for it to be possible given the number of ways it could go wrong

graceful marsh
#

Mr. Square can you explain why google searches for you peaked globally in 2011

lethal nymph
#

oh i think that's due to th

graceful marsh
#

Classic

Another witness killed just before they could give the info they wanted. The Mafia must pay

sonic heart
#

I am at my peak 😎

chilly fulcrum
#

very nice just scored 16c9b

#

in the middle of large unassigned

#

very cool

#

16b56, much better

#

this will take us over 19% overall

final sable
#

I’m about to check out the new sheet

#

I better be impressed

chilly fulcrum
#

ok 🙂

#

idk if kali did yet

final sable
#

I am v impressed!

#

I’m gonna improve the Greek alphabet recipes btw

#

make them all ‘consistent with each other’

chilly fulcrum
#

okay! i think they were optimised right, the capitals anyway

final sable
#

idk about capitals I only really worked with lowercase

#

but if there are recipes that’re all ‘uniform’ then it makes sense to make those the main ones and move the current mains to alts

#

since we don’t really care about optimality in the speedrunning sense

chilly fulcrum
#

well, go ahead make a list of them or whatever you plan on

#

ill have a look and put them in if it looks reasonable

final sable
#

oki I’ll probably do it today or tomorrow :)

chilly fulcrum
#

okay, whats the format of the recipes, (if you know them already)

#

gap + alt 1d6ac

#

1 more set of 64 would be 58%

slim quest
chilly fulcrum
#

do you have like unicode cree syllabics or whatever?

chilly fulcrum
#

best bet is to grind that against any code ending in 0 thats not nearby to what you want

#

heck, try like a7xx

slim quest
#

aight

tepid blaze
slim quest
#

interesting..

graceful marsh
#

Now why are you an Analytical Mechanics... Orator?

slim quest
#

0AF1, 0AF2, 0AF3, 0AF4

tepid blaze
slim quest
#

some more

echo wasp
#

I can't do rn tho

slim quest
#

let me see the unicode checker

chilly fulcrum
#

did you try what I suggested

slim quest
#

kinda

chilly fulcrum
#

also nice vai syllable trying to remember if it have it

#

but best bet is like any element referring to that general block (Canadian syllabics or inkitut or whatever) + U+xxx0, although try really anything

#

u+a7xx Radu found works super well

#

if you want it badly I’d recommend throwing everything at those with the Canadian syllabics stuff

slim quest
#

for xx its just random letters/numbers or an actual xx?

#

I have so many thinks reffering to this unicode

chilly fulcrum
#

codepoints

#

So yeah valid Unicode codepoints, like U+a79a

#

as an example

slim quest
#

aight

#

I did just U+a7fa rn

#

will continue in like 2 hrs

#

also thanks for the tips

#

is this what to see what unicode it is?

chilly fulcrum
#

it might be better to use codes ending in like 0-3 but really try em all

#

all ur stuff referring to that block + as many codepoints as you can

slim quest
#

aight, thanks

chilly fulcrum
#

I’m sure there’s better than that still

slim quest
#

that menas that it isnt real?

candid trellis
#

A nucleair bomb isnt a character (afaik) but does that mean its not real?
Ask the people in nagasaki and hiroshima

graceful marsh
tepid blaze
slim quest
#

0AC8, 0AC7, 0AC6, 0AC3, 0AC4, 0AC1, 0AFF, 0AFE, 0AFD, 0AFB, 0AFA, 0AF9, 0AF1

#

This should be everything I got (in one image), gtg rn, cyaa
for Real Vai Syllable: #1206592567622373446 message

echo wasp
chilly fulcrum
untold crystal
chilly fulcrum
#

Interesting, the only 104xx I ever got was 10400 lol

abstract marsh
#

s issue 😭

chilly fulcrum
#

It just attracted to that chat randomly loads

#

I think I have 100 recipes for it

untold crystal
#

I think i could get the rest of the letters in that area, by combining the Vai Unicode 10 with the rest of the u+a5xx block. But I dont have time yet. Gonna try tonight

#

It looks like it likes to give chars from that area

echo wasp
#

I'll continue going through my unobtained chars list tmr

#

Mostly just CJKs now

slim quest
slate whale
#

the script doesnt check for hangul and cjk ?

#

or hmm

#

omg i didnt check for those 2

#

only 8

#

did someone see the 8 as B

#

ffs

#

asd does that

candid trellis
#

its always asd

slate whale
#

not this time

candid trellis
#

asd alt

#

surely

final sable
#

I never know if we’re talking about asd the person or asd the spectrum disorder XD

candid trellis
#

one and the same

slate whale
spice lark
#

alternate u+1f753

untold crystal
#

1d7c0, 1d7c1

untold crystal
#

Liberia's Vai Writing

#

A800-A839

#

Phags-pa Script. #1206592567622373446 message Phags-Pa here

#

a840-a877

chilly fulcrum
#

Damn I was trying to think of more vai to get but vai writing I wouldn’t have thought of - idk seems just that way I guess

untold crystal
#

21000-2103f (missing 2102d)

#

21080-210bf

#

Another entry for 21a00

untold crystal
#

A few gaps

chilly fulcrum
#

will do soon

chilly fulcrum
#

i should try to learn what makes good new tools, i guess i wasnt creative enough

untold crystal
#

A bit anticlimactic.

#

Sourashtra Computing Language, and a ton of other Sourashtra and Sourashtram stuff.

chilly fulcrum
#

hmm how can you control that? id probably start trying with 500 to go and not get it

untold crystal
#

114c0 - 114d9

chilly fulcrum
#

it would do the classic of letting me make stuff very slowly 1 letter at a time but then the last 2 letters it just makes Nothing, even with string.append

#

its unusual behaviour its like anti autocomplete

#

it knows what word you want and purposely makes Nothing because of it

untold crystal
#

string.append(' ') a lot

chilly fulcrum
#

doesnt work, as i said it makes Nothing after you fight for 5 minutes per letter

#

the last few letters it rarely lets me

#

it recognises a word taking shape and purposely prevents it

#

e.g. every variant of "hi Basic Multilin" + every variant of append "g" = Nothing

#

drove me mad

#

idk what to do in that situation

untold crystal
#

did you manage to get it tho?

echo wasp
#

I swear I keep seeing you always clowning me for some reason lol

chilly fulcrum
#

i eventually got it

#

after a few hours

final sable
#

I'm autistic af

chilly fulcrum
#

but its a repeated pattern, whenever i get to something that doesnt let me add full words and forces me to append letters it always stops me with 1 or 2 letters left

#

idk why, its fascinating behaviour

#

usually it will be lazy and autocomplete but here it somehow decides to anti autocomplete and refuse

chilly fulcrum
untold crystal
#

yea, I wanted it

#

the "sour" wouldn't combine with anything starting with the 'a' 'as' 'ash'... so I added letters until it worked

chilly fulcrum
#

but 'tar'??

#

like first off you actually have to have that element (not trivial)

#

then you have to have it come up ni search, and use it

untold crystal
#

I already had 'ashtray'

#

by mistake of course

#

so I just removed the last chars...so it would fit

chilly fulcrum
#

i mean yeah idk tough, cool i guess

untold crystal
#

0bbe, 0bbf

untold crystal
chilly fulcrum
#

fun fact i only have "pH" - no idea how to get "ph" lol

sage wren
#

i only have "xA" lol

final sable
#

which hopefully people will actually use 🙏

chilly fulcrum
#

i mean, that is what the recipe on the alphabet sheet gives, isnt it?

final sable
#

yeah the 2-letter altphabet sheet has several of them

chilly fulcrum
untold crystal
#

done

echo wasp
sage wren
#

one

echo wasp
#

damn I didn't know out of 100k elements he only has one fd

chilly fulcrum
#

ty, your cooperation is much appreciated

untold crystal
#

10ac0-10af6

chilly fulcrum
untold crystal
#

didn't noticve

untold crystal
#

I should have this many elements

chilly fulcrum
#

possibly caps variants

#

it may collapse them

#

ask yui

untold crystal
#

yea...I didn't think about that.

#

That's it for today. Have fun adding everything to the sheet

chilly fulcrum
#

i did get lotso f chars yesterday but all midway through block

#

lol have fun o.o - well thing is its a win win because input tool makes it fast, but to use it i actually have to obtain the elements

#

which is like

#

profit

#

not only do they go in, i also get them

untold crystal
#

If I had to do it, i'd rather quit the Unicode search

chilly fulcrum
#

well, it would technically be more time efficient for you to put them in with input tool, only thing is you are very good player so I feel the need to keep you under watch to make sure the recipes are traceable, if you understand. no offense of course.

#

turns out firefox console copy paste is very broken

#

it lies to you about what is being copied

#

i.e. what is highlighted doesnt match reality

#

that scares me, there might be loads missing

#

i guess thats what the "not in sheet" script is for

chilly fulcrum
stoic bobcat
#

and it uses whichever casing you got first

chilly fulcrum
#

that kinda always broke me logically when trying to think of how to collapse everything for lineage makers and optimisers, i couldnt quite figure out when to apply the casing lock, like if i just at every step lowercase everything, or do it once but maintain a copy of the original, or something else, etc, it just messed with me

#

apparently its super simple but i couldnt quite visualise it

chilly fulcrum
#

still have 2 of radus chains left, then theres some others in cjk, (idk if natas long ones were done) - but in any case ive made a radu/general tools sheet that we can dump stuff wth easy lookup so that we dont have to link it every single time

#

should help us keep up, i hope

chilly fulcrum
#

making split tool, laurasia you may want to work on aesthetic, idk f i should put it top left or what but anyway yall can work on it, ill ask nata for code when hes back

#

but the regex would be very similar to previous, and technically not needed since only 1 recipe

#

it would just be to split at + and =

abstract marsh
#

suddenly + existed in a recipe

raven ruin
#

wait what

chilly fulcrum
#

i added a very friendly note for people who want to use an element with + in it

chilly fulcrum
#

unicode sheet

#

split tool

#

not operational yet

raven ruin
#

oh yeah how does the string.split stuff work

#

or _g.split("")

chilly fulcrum
#

well thats not related to this split tool, but by "work" it either does nothing or kinda tries to act on the output like .split() might in common coding languages

raven ruin
#

what is it useful for

chilly fulcrum
#

i dont really know, messing around mostly

#

it used to be used for 'alphabet'

#

but it got cut out of the route

raven ruin
#

so like does anyone know what it's actually for or do people just accidentally find uses for it

chilly fulcrum
#

well its not really "for" anything - you can ask in code elements thread but remember this is ai so it does whatever it wants

#

but yeah it often does try to "apply" code looking fragments

untold crystal
#

New chain beginning. It works with next letter but I don't wanna make it

#

Don't know if it's worth making a huge lineage just for one element

untold crystal
#

Phags-pa Unicode. Phags-pa here -> #1206592567622373446 message

#

And another Chain start

chilly fulcrum
chilly fulcrum
#

ha cute, i went to go put in a chain from radu but its already done

#

aww ty guys

sand coral
#

U+31EF (U+31E4 - U+31EE all unassigned)

chilly fulcrum
#

can someone make a decent lineage for gujurati/unicode gujarati (somehow not browser or bot)

sand coral
untold crystal
#

Ps. for all Saura..., Soura... (from today and yesterday) were all for A880-a8d9 characters. but it didn't give me any of them

chilly fulcrum
#

oh wait theres saura too?

#

i only did teh soura

untold crystal
#

that was a typo. The correct form was saura

#

And I just found out today, when searching for soura on the sheet gave me no results

#

Tho Wikipedia gave me now a conforting reply

#

The mother tongue of Saurashtrians is Saurashtra (alternate names and spellings: Sourashtra, Sowrashtra, Sourashtri, Palkar), an amalgamation of present-day Sanskrit, Hindi, Marathi, Konkani, Kannada, Telugu & Tamil.

chilly fulcrum
#

the consistent revivals of those elements is still wild to me, idk am i alone in experiencing the issue of where it really doesnt like it

#

and then when you are close it makes Nothing every time

untold crystal
#

It happens a lot to me too

chilly fulcrum
#

but you always get around it?

untold crystal
#

but...for example if something ends in unicode I first use (' u') + ('nicode') and this usually works. If not (' u'), + ('nic') + ('ode') if it doesn't work (' u)' + "nicode", (' u') + ('n)+"icode" (' u'), + ('nic')+"ode" and so on

#

for other words, the same. I try all the combinations untill one sticks

chilly fulcrum
#

...

#

requires you actually have all those

#

do you mean string.append btw

untold crystal
#

I mean String.append(' ') stuff

#

yea

chilly fulcrum
#

right.... as i said

#

i cannot make arbitrary string.append

#

i can on some occasions reach 3 letter

untold crystal
#

after revival, it's relativly easy to find something that goes without string.append

#

I only have 'nicode' that it's longer than 3 letters

#

and 'nic' and 'ode' for 3 letters

chilly fulcrum
#

hm, well what about the other revival ones

#

like theres 6 or 7 things you revive per lineage

#

thats like

#

6 or 7 hours

#

for me

#

minimum

#

provided i keep track of everything and dont give up at least 5 times

untold crystal
#

usually my recipes look like this

chilly fulcrum
#

hmm... really?

#

cannot relate

#

usually i have to work far far harder

#

and it always makes Nothing on the last couple letters because it sees what im trying

untold crystal
#

and something like this

#

and I have to remove a letter, or add a 01 or something behind the hi

chilly fulcrum
#

yeah if you have mr i guess its ok

#

but like

#

from "hi Basic Multilin" i could not progress no matter what

#

in the end i got it, via pure fluke

#

never seen a strat like it

untold crystal
#

you wanted basic multilingual?

sage wren
#

thats a pretty strange remove the mr. recipe ...

untold crystal
#

you get what I wanted to say...

chilly fulcrum
#

not dead

#

but thats how i fluked it

untold crystal
abstract marsh
#

i want simpler recipe.... but that can wait until next year

untold crystal
#

for what?

echo wasp
#

ah yes that for a non fd

untold crystal
#

basic multilingual?

abstract marsh
#

unicode generator

#

or plane generator💀

sand coral
chilly fulcrum
#

it knows im close so it makes them all Nothing

echo wasp
#

I'm just curious why you think the AI is so evil

chilly fulcrum
#

idk it is

#

clearly

#

somehow it recognises the word taking shape and for whatever reason denies it specifically

#

anti-autocomplete

echo wasp
#

Well you cant just say that it knows what you want so it gives nothing

sage wren
chilly fulcrum
#

nah i mean it doesnt know anything, its just an annoying and also fascinating behaviour

sage wren
#

fascinatingbehaviour

echo wasp
#

New word in the dictionary!

sage wren
#

honestly i dont think i can name many words like it, only one off the top of my head is dwellingplace

chilly fulcrum
#

it lets me append junk chars

#

just as long as its not making an actual word its allowed, for whatever reason

#

oh well too long with hi anyway

#

so i guess its ok

#

but it also means im not really gonna be able to get it this way

chilly fulcrum
#

maybe if we have phonetic alphabet

#

let me see

#

i mean i dont have it, but maybe someone does

untold crystal
#

If anyone wants the basic multilingual plane, post a siple "multi" recipe

chilly fulcrum
# untold crystal

like wat? "hi Mr. " to remove the 01, bruh. like i mean i had branched about 50 times and everything was a mess but this cant have been more than one or two branches, yet somehow the exact correct element is on the list of things you tried, i have to see how you organise and make this stuff seriously

#

also, i saw you try some other ranges

#

with unicode chars, i couldnt bring myself to clear my 256 chars and then create and drag out 256 more

#

like + 1 hour

#

ick

untold crystal
#

I'm not doing that. I just tested random stuff

chilly fulcrum
#

how many codepoints? im through a few hundred and still nothing

sand coral
untold crystal
#

alph is in browser

chilly fulcrum
#

right, so how many branches was it

#

also tf how did you even get to where i was

#

i had to pull some absurd nonsense

untold crystal
#

in place of the string.append you can use 'et'

echo wasp
chilly fulcrum
#

rare

#

i dont even try

#

i do 1 next letter and thats it

#

but yeah "slavistic" was hard enough to make

graceful marsh
#

BFs increment like normal most of the time

sand coral
chilly fulcrum
#

i had to do like this

chilly fulcrum
# untold crystal

right ofc singularize.... how do you know to do that as one of the first things you try? you dont want to know how many removes and deletes i went through

#

(tbf i dont have it so i couldnt have tried)

graceful marsh
#

Depluralisation has been around for a while as a strat

chilly fulcrum
#

yeah i know, but like, arent they weak compared to modern tech

#

like

#

extremely weak waste of time

#

?

#

also damn

#

i hate ai "autocorrect" to a word that doesnt exist

#

i cant get around that rn

graceful marsh
chilly fulcrum
#

i did get #meroitic

#

but it corrects to removing the i

#

for zero reason

#

cant beat it

#

whats the strat here

untold crystal
#

What do you need?

chilly fulcrum
#

none of my hash removers i tried worked (i mean techncially a few hundred elements are candidates to do that but i couldnt possibly test them all)

#

to have it remove the hashtag

#

or quotes

#

or 01

#

or anything

#

without "correcting" it

graceful marsh
#

The usual FEPW anti-autocorrect strat is Mr.-ing it

sage wren
#

fepaw

chilly fulcrum
#

even contextual clues

graceful marsh
#

I mean

chilly fulcrum
#

couldnt stop it from inventing words

graceful marsh
#

Merotic is a synonym

chilly fulcrum
#

hm, well still i didnt ask

#

but it did it anyway

#

also i couldnt mr it

#

Mr.meroitic best i have

untold crystal
graceful marsh
#

I love anti-alphabetical ordering

chilly fulcrum
#

right, but like again can you explain to me how you know to try exactly that

untold crystal
#

if something doesn't unhashtag as I want I always try #mr.

chilly fulcrum
#

hm ok

untold crystal
#

it's one of the strats that a lot of times saved me

chilly fulcrum
#

i mean theres plenty for me too, but the things i always try when something doesnt work, i tried in this situation

#

okay hm let me see

echo wasp
#

3f 7f bf ff

graceful marsh
#

Ah right, got my letters and numbers mixed up

echo wasp
#

wtf did autocorrect do

untold crystal
#

a faster one

graceful marsh
#

event ended

chilly fulcrum
#

do you try new stuff against all 256 of a range?

#

id been lazier and only tried with about 30 or so last couple days

#

maybe why i have nothing new?

graceful marsh
#

Radu, have you got some time? If you do could you try for Bamum Phase B Unicode? I only managed A

chilly fulcrum
#

where do the phases start and end

graceful marsh
#

A to G

#

G is also known as modern Bamum

chilly fulcrum
#

yeah but

#

like

#

where

graceful marsh
#

Oh

chilly fulcrum
#

what codepoint

graceful marsh
#

G is A6A0 - A6F7

#

Then uh

chilly fulcrum
#

16800 stuff, but where does it split

#

i added some new sheets for util as well

echo wasp
graceful marsh
#

A is 16800-16856
B is 16857-1688E
C is 1688F-168F0
D is 168F1-16965
E is 16966-16A02
F is 16A03-16A38

sage wren
#

Bavarian

chilly fulcrum
#

added split tool (not working rn) and added a "radu sheet" for tools there

median karma
#

?aaaaaaabcddeeeefghhiilllllnoprrrrsttwwwy

heady escarp
median karma
heady escarp
#

(thank you dave)

candid trellis
#

ablls

heady escarp
#

3:uuw

echo wasp
#

aaabbbdfggiiiiiijkmnnnnooopsssttuyyy

#

(definitely not something offensive - sry)

chilly fulcrum
#

tbh kinda good cipher tho

#

not really decodable for whoever is on the other end tho

heady escarp
lethal nymph
#

lego set but without the manuals

echo wasp
chilly fulcrum
#

i have a good cipher, watch as my message is now unable to be intercepted by an enemy: [redacted]

heady escarp
median karma
#

if you counted how many times a letter is used

#

and compared that to the english vocabulary

#

and counted all the arranged words that make sense

graceful marsh
#

You'd still end up with enough valid permutations to cause misinterpretations

sage wren
median karma
#

then i guess you can deciphr that

median karma
sage wren
#

that is way too error-prone

median karma
#

it's better than nothing tho

sage wren
#

have i said error-prone before why is it in autocorrect

median karma
#

it could work as a cipher for smaller examples

chilly fulcrum
#

its really not decipherable past a certain length

sage wren
chilly fulcrum
#

which is like the reverse of how legit ciphers work

#

they get "easier" to break the longer they are

median karma
untold crystal
#

Bamum Extended Syllabary and Bamum Syllabary

chilly fulcrum
#

hm

#

i got supplement

untold crystal
chilly fulcrum
#

but not extended

#

also yeah when you make a new tool how much do you grind it against before you throw it away for the moment

untold crystal
#

it depends what it gives me

chilly fulcrum
#

im testing with about 30 atm

untold crystal
#

If it gives me only emojis or the same 1-2 elements after 10-15 codepoints i'm throwing it away forever

chilly fulcrum
#

yeah sure

heady escarp
chilly fulcrum
#

thats fair although many tools that do that locally are very useful

#

delete first character vs. these =

chilly fulcrum
untold crystal
#

for example both of these gives almost always elements from 16800-1683f

chilly fulcrum
#

@graceful marsh Prepended space is back!!!!

sage wren
#

genius

chilly fulcrum
untold crystal
#

true... it all depends on how much I wanna try

chilly fulcrum
#

plus im stickign to same ranges

#

i dont want to pull out another 100 codepoints

#

i already have 256 out

#

but you are changing it a bit i saw, i mean i do pull out like 16 every once in a while from a random spot

sand coral
chilly fulcrum
#

did you do a clean backtrack to hi mr. sigma after the other stuff didnt work?

chilly fulcrum
#

damn, i wish i could

#

oh wait, i got 1684a? hm

#

yeah with the tangut

echo wasp
#

also found a few

chilly fulcrum
#

next random hieroglyph unicode + U+b9xx = fd char farm

#

recommend you try it

#

its all cjk as far as i can tell

echo wasp
chilly fulcrum
#

alright im getting drained quickly, um give me some ideas and ill throw them at all b900-3f

echo wasp
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oml finishing this chain is so annoying

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i tried till b90a

chilly fulcrum
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ill do it rn, but what about noncjk tool

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maybe Luwian Hieroglyphs Supplement lol

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good few fd

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will that keep you occupied?

sand coral
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Easier 1D6D6

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unusual behaviour

sonic heart
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F917 my first time trying something like this, prob very unoptimized

chilly fulcrum
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this is what happens when i try make stuff (random "tool")

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3e9e, Mr. Unicode 10.1.1

chilly fulcrum
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easy 0/64 new

sand coral
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how tf is this not in the sheet

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ge

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t h i s

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1D82A
Next Unicode Letter also works

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added in a bunch of 2fxxx

chilly fulcrum
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how about what i showed you for the cjk ideographs unicode

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idk which ones are chainable or unassigned

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well im through for the day, 0 finds yay

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didnt you find a few cjks

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past 2f9ff

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wait, its unassigned

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LMAO

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I got like 20 FD, some are part of real chains I think for that Strat

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still not 3xxxx :/

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Did you get them all - I didn’t put them in because I didn’t want to waste the chains and have them just be 1 item - I can go back I guess?

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