chilly fulcrum May 26, 2024, 3:36 PM

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well there’s all the next symbol stuff glowy and I have

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but if it’s not working odds are you won’t break through unless you have perhaps hundreds of options

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white holes are extremely tough

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Its either like a 90% success rate or 0.1% and little in between

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failing js the lookup table should still be able to be implemented by using native functions

lethal nymph May 26, 2024, 3:39 PM

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threw in (Directly) Next Symbol

abstract marsh May 26, 2024, 3:40 PM

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idk if its just next

lethal nymph May 26, 2024, 3:42 PM

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oh well nothing new appeared

abstract marsh May 26, 2024, 3:44 PM

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cuz there's no consistent tool for that... with next tech i had

lethal nymph May 26, 2024, 3:44 PM

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i'll throw in the 6-dot braille chars urotsuki have

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they also just concatenate to each other 😭

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also threw in #nextunicode because i saw it on the sheet

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wow very helpful

chilly fulcrum May 26, 2024, 3:57 PM

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Try After Previous Unicode

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it’s a bit of a doozy

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and on occasion prepend hashtag and remove the Mr. have worked

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best chance is some language Unicode like Unicode Oriya or whatever any one of those but depending on the block some are much more sensitive than others

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Confusion tactics with nonsense also can work

lethal nymph May 26, 2024, 4:16 PM

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📎 disappointing.txt

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it made 28ff like

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a lot

chilly fulcrum May 26, 2024, 4:17 PM

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normal

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that’s why my most common element is the therefore symbol and by a long shot

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Also glowy has previously coerced some elements put by combining the characters with U+/+++x/000x

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Often it matches the last digit and gives the next one up

vernal kraken May 26, 2024, 4:18 PM

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guys is this normal ?

chilly fulcrum May 26, 2024, 4:19 PM

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looks normal to me, why?

vernal kraken May 26, 2024, 4:19 PM

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"fromcharcode" + the hashtag is supposed to make fromcharcode without the quotation marks

chilly fulcrum May 26, 2024, 4:20 PM

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according to where

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just want to see

vernal kraken May 26, 2024, 4:20 PM

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eisern lineage

chilly fulcrum May 26, 2024, 4:20 PM

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there’s a lot of those

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can you link me to the specific one

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we also have some good routes

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On a sheet

vernal kraken May 26, 2024, 4:21 PM

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chilly fulcrum we also have some good routes

can you send pls ?

abstract marsh May 26, 2024, 4:21 PM

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did you mistake

" with “

??

vernal kraken May 26, 2024, 4:21 PM

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chilly fulcrum can you link me to the specific one

#1206592567622373446 message

chilly fulcrum May 26, 2024, 4:22 PM

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Oh god that’s such on old route

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how did you get pointed to that one

vernal kraken May 26, 2024, 4:22 PM

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idk

chilly fulcrum May 26, 2024, 4:22 PM

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rather than any of the reasonable ones

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just so we can fix it

lethal nymph May 26, 2024, 4:22 PM

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that's probably a case of unquote bug

chilly fulcrum May 26, 2024, 4:22 PM

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and point to the better one

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hmm yeah I see

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so it doesn’t even work lmao

graceful marsh May 26, 2024, 4:23 PM

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Yip, unquote

chilly fulcrum May 26, 2024, 4:23 PM

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so how did you get sent there

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want to know so we can fix

vernal kraken May 26, 2024, 4:24 PM

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the photo is on the unicode guide google doc but i think it's old

graceful marsh May 26, 2024, 4:24 PM

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Oh, the Unicode Tools

chilly fulcrum May 26, 2024, 4:24 PM

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yikes

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We need to update those badly

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make new ones probably

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Beyond recovery at this point

abstract marsh May 26, 2024, 4:24 PM

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revamping the guide is needed yeah

chilly fulcrum May 26, 2024, 4:24 PM

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okay so

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For a recipe you can go to ask for word we will optimise

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Thread

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pins has a sheet

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with some stuff we optimised

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it is one of them

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but also there’s like 50 routes thrown around

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from the effort of optimising it

vernal kraken May 26, 2024, 4:25 PM

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ok

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found it

abstract marsh May 26, 2024, 4:26 PM

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nom nom, im watching a fun story rn

vernal kraken May 26, 2024, 4:26 PM

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thanks

chilly fulcrum May 26, 2024, 4:27 PM

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honestly I remember when I first took a look at the Unicode guides it took every last shred of my will to not lose it

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but over a few days I followed them all and got to where I needed

graceful marsh May 26, 2024, 4:27 PM

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And then helped compress them!

chilly fulcrum May 26, 2024, 4:27 PM

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if we don’t want to scare people we totally should update these

abstract marsh May 26, 2024, 4:28 PM

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well technically the top pins already gives scares before they even started to do something

graceful marsh May 26, 2024, 4:28 PM

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Those pins need cleanup

chilly fulcrum May 26, 2024, 4:29 PM

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yes

vernal kraken May 26, 2024, 4:29 PM

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#1226511876733669436 message yay

chilly fulcrum May 26, 2024, 4:31 PM

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laurasia do you know enough about sheets to make some kind of lookup table for the Unicode sheet so that we can start experimenting with automated data entry

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the way the auto entry currently works I presume is that it searches the whole doc to find the right row to put your recipe

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but I propose we make a lookup table to make it effectively instant

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as it stands it takes like one minute per recipe

graceful marsh May 26, 2024, 4:33 PM

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I'd need to see what the current solution is

vernal kraken May 26, 2024, 4:34 PM

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also do you know an accurate way of making elements that start with U+1F ?

chilly fulcrum May 26, 2024, 4:34 PM

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can you make a clone? Yeah I also needed to see I think but idk the sheet functions I need - in any real coding language it’s trivial but sheets are another thing entirely

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there’s not really any accurate way - best we can do is about 80% success on characters that the game likes

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on characters it doesn’t like you may as well just pray

graceful marsh May 26, 2024, 4:35 PM

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Where is auto-entry located?

I haven't touched the sheet in weeks

chilly fulcrum May 26, 2024, 4:35 PM

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input tool

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just need a proof of concept that this can work

graceful marsh May 26, 2024, 4:36 PM

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Oh ok, it's that

Ugh, creating a copy of this entire thing will be a bit of a pain

chilly fulcrum May 26, 2024, 4:36 PM

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We don’t use it as it stands because it times out

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don’t have to

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can just make a dummy copy

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all I’m after is just the general idea working - I don’t care what on specifically

graceful marsh May 26, 2024, 4:37 PM

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Oh nevermind I can view the attached script file

chilly fulcrum May 26, 2024, 4:37 PM

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Oh ok

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I did not know that

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but if this works it means we could input potentially 100 characters automatically at once and provide lineage links automated too if the tools used are known

graceful marsh May 26, 2024, 4:42 PM

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Well it should be scalable to bulk processing but I can't not make it do a full table search

Since unassigned codepoints aren't recorded (among other things) there's no simple conversion from value to rownumber, if that's what you're looking for

chilly fulcrum May 26, 2024, 4:43 PM

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ah but

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that’s where the lookup table comes in

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I propose we generate a lookup table that uses the codepoint of the result as an index

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and then simply read off the value in that cell and that’s the row number in the sheet you are after and bingo

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So instead of modify(row(x)) we modify(row(table[x]))

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this gets around the issue

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It bridges the gap

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once generated the table only needs to be updated very occasionally

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should always be compatible with future additions

abstract marsh May 26, 2024, 4:47 PM

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converting image lineage to text & put it in table
i wonder how many non-textual lineage we had in here 🗿

chilly fulcrum May 26, 2024, 4:47 PM

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good luck with that

graceful marsh May 26, 2024, 4:48 PM

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Ok hold on I think I might just be sleepy but what exactly is in the lookup table?

chilly fulcrum May 26, 2024, 4:48 PM

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it will tell you where to go

abstract marsh May 26, 2024, 4:49 PM

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pointers basically eh...

chilly fulcrum May 26, 2024, 4:49 PM

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since the problem is you don’t know where to go to find the row for U+xxxx, the lookup table tells you

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instead of searching the whole sheet you get a direct pointer

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so for example row 33 in the table would contain the number 3 or whatever the actual row for U+0020 is

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or you could start there if you want and make that be row 1 of lookup

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Idk if the sheet allows the script itself to contain this as a dictionary or if it has to be its own sheet

graceful marsh May 26, 2024, 4:55 PM

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It would probably have to be its own

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Sheets doesn't really like doing anything large-scale with the scripting

abstract marsh May 26, 2024, 5:01 PM

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over 4k cell being used, yeah it lagged the sheet that i need to reload...
i never tried it again

chilly fulcrum May 26, 2024, 5:03 PM

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well yeah checking every row is a no go for sheets this big

graceful marsh May 26, 2024, 5:04 PM

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Could you just make a quick example of what the table would look like, with multiple rows?

I appear to still be having trouble visualising it

chilly fulcrum May 26, 2024, 5:06 PM

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pretend the sheet has (U+00) 20,22,23,27,29 as the first 5 entries

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lookup table would then be like this: row 20 would say 1, row 22 would say 2, row 23 would say 3, row 27 would say 4, row 29 would say 5

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and you can make that be like not starting at row 20 if you compensate in the formula you use to calculate the lookup table index

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The lookup table lets you pretend the sheets aren’t split up

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and that unassigned codepoints are accounted for

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see how my example doesn’t have 21 (pretend it’s unassigned)

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no problem the lookup table accounts for this

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instead of row 21 saying 2 (incorrect) - row 22 would say 2 (correct)

graceful marsh May 26, 2024, 5:12 PM

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So you get the rownumber in the table from the Unicode value, find the number at that position, and use that to find the rownumber for the main sheet?

chilly fulcrum May 26, 2024, 5:12 PM

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yes

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so Imagine I want to find where the hell in the sheet U+10000 is

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Easy

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Go to row 65537 of the lookup table and it will say

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The lookup table is a one time calculation which is on par with the calculation needed to just find a character with the current Strat

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Once you compute it you never need to again

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unless of course you change stuff

graceful marsh May 26, 2024, 5:16 PM

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Okay, that doesn't sound too bad

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I don't have full laptop access at the moment but you could probably already hack together a simple form of what you're looking for with just actual lookups

Let me try something

chilly fulcrum May 26, 2024, 5:17 PM

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yeah I can make it in an actual coding language just fine

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but sheets scare me

abstract marsh May 26, 2024, 5:18 PM

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copy small amount of the sheet and run it on test sheet

chilly fulcrum May 26, 2024, 5:19 PM

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You could also copy the sheet entirely, there’s an inbuilt for that

abstract marsh May 26, 2024, 5:19 PM

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gl with ur pc loading all that everytime u update the script :>

chilly fulcrum May 26, 2024, 5:21 PM

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true

graceful marsh May 26, 2024, 5:24 PM

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Ok, I have an extremely stupid method of generating the table

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...except it broke immediately

abstract marsh May 26, 2024, 5:30 PM

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okay wtf is this strategy that i never heard of

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might be useful, imma grab em

graceful marsh May 26, 2024, 5:34 PM

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Interesting new fact I've learned, Sheets will only let you highlight 100100 rows

graceful marsh May 26, 2024, 5:37 PM

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graceful marsh Interesting new fact I've learned, Sheets will only let you highlight 100100 row...

Fun fact 2: This is a lie

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Oh fuck

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Ok @chilly fulcrum the table I think has been generated:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1KZv8so-K3ocAYOyqOiitkdE0H9y6AQitCU8CoGP1mKo/edit#gid=372642942

Have a look to see if its to your liking

Google Docs

Pineapple

Copy of Infinite Craft - Unicode Database - Sheet40

3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
19
20
21
22
23
24
25
26
27
28
29
30
31
32
33
34
35
36
37
38
39
40
41
42
43
44
45
46
47
48
49
50
51
52

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Everything is offset by 31 (decimal)

abstract marsh May 26, 2024, 5:57 PM

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pineapple
i wonder whats next 🐐

graceful marsh May 26, 2024, 5:58 PM

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Friendly things I call banana, unfriendly things I call pineapple (this was annoying to make)

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I had to export and reimport as CSV to get it to work

graceful marsh May 26, 2024, 6:21 PM

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Glowy, could you copy-paste your console after making a bunch of unicode in a chain

abstract marsh May 26, 2024, 6:26 PM

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yeah i can

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try this one, ( not in spreadsheet too, i'll do it next time )

u+08a0 + Dogra Unicode = ࢠ
U+08a2 + ࢠ = ࢡ
u+08a2 + Dogra Unicode = ࢢ
ࢠ + ࢡ = ࢢ
ࢡ + ࢢ = ࢣ
ࢢ + ࢣ = ࢤ
ࢣ + ࢤ = ࢥ
ࢤ + ࢥ = ࢦ
ࢥ + ࢦ = ࢧ
ࢦ + ࢧ = ࢨ
ࢨ + ࢧ = ࢩ
ࢨ + ࢩ = ࢪ
ࢩ + ࢪ = ࢫ
ࢪ + ࢫ = ࢬ
ࢬ + ࢫ = ࢮ
fromcharcode + U+0a1d = ࢭ
U+0002 + ࢭ = ࢮ
ࢭ + ࢮ = ࢯ
Dogra Unicode + U+08a1 = ࢱ
ࢠ + ࢱ = ࢰ
ࢲ + ࢱ = ࢳ
ࢲ + ࢳ = ࢴ
ࢳ + ࢴ = ࢵ
ࢵ + ࢴ = ࢶ
ࢶ + ࢵ = ࢷ
ࢶ + ࢷ = ࢸ

graceful marsh May 26, 2024, 6:36 PM

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Perfect

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Wait did you copy that exactly from console or did you edit it

abstract marsh May 26, 2024, 6:37 PM

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edit it
i dont have script to copy without the :::::

graceful marsh May 26, 2024, 6:37 PM

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Oh I don't care

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Keep it in

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I want to automate that

abstract marsh May 26, 2024, 6:52 PM

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Infinite Craft Helper.user.js:890 Dogra Unicode + U+08a0 = ࢠ
Infinite Craft Helper.user.js:890 U+08a2 + ࢠ = ࢡ
Infinite Craft Helper.user.js:890 ࢠ + ࢡ = ࢢ
Infinite Craft Helper.user.js:890 ࢡ + ࢢ = ࢣ
Infinite Craft Helper.user.js:890 ࢢ + ࢣ = ࢤ
Infinite Craft Helper.user.js:890 ࢣ + ࢤ = ࢥ
Infinite Craft Helper.user.js:890 ࢤ + ࢥ = ࢦ
Infinite Craft Helper.user.js:890 ࢥ + ࢦ = ࢧ
Infinite Craft Helper.user.js:890 ࢦ + ࢧ = ࢨ
Infinite Craft Helper.user.js:890 ࢨ + ࢧ = ࢩ
Infinite Craft Helper.user.js:890 ࢨ + ࢩ = ࢪ
Infinite Craft Helper.user.js:890 ࢩ + ࢪ = ࢫ
Infinite Craft Helper.user.js:890 ࢪ + ࢫ = ࢬ
Infinite Craft Helper.user.js:890 ࢬ + ࢫ = ࢮ
Infinite Craft Helper.user.js:890 fromcharcode + U+0a1d = ࢭ
Infinite Craft Helper.user.js:890 ࢭ + ࢮ = ࢯ

08A0-08AF
this good?

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nvm thats better

graceful marsh May 26, 2024, 6:55 PM

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Yep

Okay disassembling Banana 3.0 now

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Does it always say ICH.user.js:890?

abstract marsh May 26, 2024, 6:57 PM

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yeah

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ignoring the other message popped in the console...
i filtered it out

graceful marsh May 26, 2024, 7:05 PM

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It fucking works, let's go!

abstract marsh May 26, 2024, 7:10 PM

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now make it works even if the first one doesnt had ICH.user.js:890

graceful marsh May 26, 2024, 7:11 PM

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It will

lethal nymph May 26, 2024, 7:11 PM

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also on firefox, the ich line is on the right

graceful marsh May 26, 2024, 7:11 PM

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Oh goddammit

tepid blaze May 26, 2024, 7:11 PM

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graceful marsh It will

and if it have Infinite Craft Helper.user.js:875:18 ?

graceful marsh May 26, 2024, 7:11 PM

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That's fine

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I hacked together a stupid thing that detects the third space

lethal nymph May 26, 2024, 7:12 PM

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like this

Earth + Water = Plant Infinite Craft Helper.user.js:890:18
Plant + Steam = Tea Infinite Craft Helper.user.js:890:18
Glass + Tea = Cup Infinite Craft Helper.user.js:890:18```

graceful marsh May 26, 2024, 7:12 PM

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Ugh

I can make a separate version for Firefoxers

abstract marsh May 26, 2024, 7:13 PM

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now i wanted to see someone breaking it by making element
Infinite Craft Helper.user.js:890:18

lethal nymph May 26, 2024, 7:13 PM

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i mean it's dead so it can't ever be in a recipe

graceful marsh May 26, 2024, 7:14 PM

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Oh, right

I should make it automatically filter out results longer than 1 character too

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Wait no

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Piss

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Google Sheets has this stupid thing where some characters are Length 2 for no reason

abstract marsh May 26, 2024, 7:15 PM

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U+xxxxx : 🎉

lethal nymph May 26, 2024, 7:15 PM

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5 digit hex value moment

graceful marsh May 26, 2024, 7:21 PM

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why

candid trellis May 26, 2024, 8:33 PM

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Is that a fucking poké ball?

chilly fulcrum May 26, 2024, 11:09 PM

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yeah

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it gives length as 2 for those idk

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okay looks cool I love it

chilly fulcrum May 27, 2024, 1:05 AM

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nice nice

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may i see that sheet you have there laurasia what i can see is only the lookup table itself

lethal nymph May 27, 2024, 5:44 AM

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oh 20xx still have some left to be revived

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now they're all revived

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i'll bruteforce all of them against each other beacuse it's actually not too bad

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yea it's gonna be interesting lol

abstract marsh May 27, 2024, 6:11 AM

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lethal nymph oh 20xx still have some left to be revived

same for 21xx
i havent grinded much for 22xx

lethal nymph May 27, 2024, 6:20 AM

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weird

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most of the time the codes just get concatenated

abstract marsh May 27, 2024, 6:27 AM

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is that superscript

lethal nymph May 27, 2024, 6:28 AM

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⁽²⁰⁰²⁾⁽²⁰⁷¹��

abstract marsh May 27, 2024, 6:30 AM

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mhm yeah superscript unicodes 🙃 very interesting, good i didnt grind U+xxxx + U+xxxx to get random stuff like that

lethal nymph May 27, 2024, 7:17 AM

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looks like an encoding error lmao

sage wren May 27, 2024, 7:18 AM

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isnt there a kinda early element in infcraft with an encoding error

sage wren May 27, 2024, 7:19 AM

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sage wren isnt there a kinda early element in infcraft with an encoding error

i knew i was thinking right

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AprÃ¨s Ski

lethal nymph May 27, 2024, 7:22 AM

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i'm mostly getting random bullshit like this

lethal nymph May 27, 2024, 8:29 AM

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yeah

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it's only at 1e

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this will actually take forever

chilly fulcrum May 27, 2024, 8:32 AM

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You did pick a lot to grind

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what environment are you running this in - is it in an ide or a browser or what

lethal nymph May 27, 2024, 8:34 AM

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nodejs in a terminal

lethal nymph May 27, 2024, 8:55 AM

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this is not in sheet

chilly fulcrum May 27, 2024, 9:34 AM

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okay

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oh wait i kinda left mistake

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there

chilly fulcrum May 27, 2024, 9:52 AM

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honestly a separate bounty for "current lowest not found (but probably possible) unicode" would be cool but idk if others would join

lethal nymph May 27, 2024, 10:30 AM

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power went off

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have to pause the bruteforcing

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also i checked and there were at least two new chars in 20xx

chilly fulcrum May 27, 2024, 11:07 AM

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okay um last thing really we need to get this working is whatever the function is to turn a string into an actual cell reference

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like how to turn the string "'sheetname'! cell" into the actual reference

chilly fulcrum May 27, 2024, 11:33 AM

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im going to run circumflex over a lot of early letters and codepoints

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circumflex unexpected mvp

young turtle May 27, 2024, 1:09 PM

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Finally!!
Ή (U+0389) Greek Capital Letter Eta with Tonos
🇬🇷 Ελληνικά + ❌ U+001e = ❓ Ή

lethal nymph May 27, 2024, 1:09 PM

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wonder what's up with this

chilly fulcrum May 27, 2024, 1:11 PM

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Is it escaping or are those the literal results

lethal nymph May 27, 2024, 1:11 PM

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in grey is my editor displaying the codepoint

young turtle May 27, 2024, 1:12 PM

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young turtle Finally!! Ή (U+0389) Greek Capital Letter Eta with Tonos 🇬🇷 Ελληνικά + ❌ U+001...

Ah it is already on the sheet...

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strange for my it says fd

lethal nymph May 27, 2024, 1:12 PM

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what in the world is 206e used for though

chilly fulcrum May 27, 2024, 1:13 PM

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What does it give in console @young turtle

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that recipe

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want to check whose mistake it is because I may have put that recipe in

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If it’s wrong I need to go fix

lethal nymph May 27, 2024, 1:14 PM

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sheet has the same recipe

young turtle May 27, 2024, 1:16 PM

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nvm I guess I have found already before someone and just noticed now...

lethal nymph May 27, 2024, 1:18 PM

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how chaotic

graceful marsh May 27, 2024, 1:18 PM

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What was this one

lethal nymph May 27, 2024, 1:19 PM

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U+200e + U+20fd

graceful marsh May 27, 2024, 1:20 PM

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Ah, nice

Completely unrelated

lethal nymph May 27, 2024, 1:23 PM

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reran the 500s and one of them suddenly worked

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weird

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wild

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‫ ⁽ ̒ ⁾ ‬

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202b 20 202a 20 202a 20 202a 20 202a

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it couldn't decide between left and right

chilly fulcrum May 27, 2024, 2:07 PM

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Bruh

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ltr rtl ltr rtl wen

tame violet May 27, 2024, 2:16 PM

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chilly fulcrum ltr rtl ltr rtl wen

robuc cub referne 🤯 c

chilly fulcrum May 27, 2024, 2:19 PM

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wat

thin warren May 27, 2024, 2:57 PM

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U+300E LEFT WHITE CORNER BRACKET
ʻ + 』 = ʻ』
ʻ』 + 「」 = 『』

lethal nymph May 27, 2024, 2:58 PM

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oh shit i forgot that 20[a-f]x is not confirmed to be 100% alive

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eh whatever

abstract marsh May 27, 2024, 3:16 PM

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can you check which one is still dead from 20xx?
im almost done with 21xx cuz cant seem to get 21eb-21ef even stuck with U+++21ea

lethal nymph May 27, 2024, 3:17 PM

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lethal nymph oh shit i forgot that 20[a-f]x is not confirmed to be 100% alive

this is wrong they're all alive i just have dementia

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how fascinating

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𝗙𝗼𝗻𝘁

candid trellis May 27, 2024, 3:18 PM

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Nice font font

abstract marsh May 27, 2024, 3:19 PM

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i'll leave 21eb-21ef to someone else lol
gotta do easier one

candid trellis May 27, 2024, 3:29 PM

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abstract marsh i'll leave 21eb-21ef to someone else lol gotta do easier one

Create em to use em in the script? Or get a good recipe for them?

abstract marsh May 27, 2024, 3:31 PM

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U+23CA
U+23dc + U+23dd = ⏊

abstract marsh May 27, 2024, 3:32 PM

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candid trellis Create em to use em in the script? Or get a good recipe for them?

what?

candid trellis May 27, 2024, 3:40 PM

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Are you wanting a good recipe for U+21eb-21ef?
Or are just trying to make them so that they can be used in the script?

abstract marsh May 27, 2024, 3:41 PM

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the latter

lethal nymph May 27, 2024, 4:49 PM

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it caught some combining characters in 20xx

candid trellis May 27, 2024, 4:53 PM

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finally got home

lethal nymph May 27, 2024, 4:54 PM

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currently at 2074

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it's been running for like 9 hours

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wonder why it's taking so long though

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it's only a bit over 30k combinations

candid trellis May 27, 2024, 4:59 PM

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UPWARDS WHITE ARROW ON PEDESTAL WITH HORIZONTAL BAR U+21EC

lethal nymph May 27, 2024, 5:01 PM

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random numbers in brackets seems to be a recurring theme somehow

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oh it's not random, it's just the codepoint 😭

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still weird

graceful marsh May 27, 2024, 5:05 PM

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Yeah

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I'm trying to find any website that does that

abstract marsh May 27, 2024, 5:08 PM

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candid trellis finally got home

o nice

lethal nymph May 27, 2024, 5:27 PM

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20ea    ⃪
U+202a  U+20e1

2031    ‱
U+2030  U+207b
U+2031  U+2070
U+2031  U+2074
U+2031  U+2075
U+2031  U+207b
U+2031  U+207e
U+2031  U+207f
U+2031  U+2088

20b6    ₶
U+2036  U+20b0

20d3    ⃓
U+2063  U+20c5

20db    ⃛
U+206b  U+20e3

20ca    ⃊
U+206c  U+20e5```

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will continue tomorrow gn

young turtle May 27, 2024, 5:34 PM

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I was adding some recipes on the Greek letters range of the sheet and seen a recipe that use the result to produce the result

GREEK CAPITAL LETTER OMICRON WITH TONOS (U+038C) Ό
Mr. Ό + Remove The Mr.

lethal nymph May 27, 2024, 5:35 PM

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#1206592567622373446 message

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you don't need Ό to make Mr. Ό

young turtle May 27, 2024, 5:37 PM

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Also some recipes that are in the bot are missing from the sheet
🌀 Gamma + ❓ √-1 = γ γ

sage wren May 27, 2024, 8:18 PM

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lethal nymph https://discord.com/channels/1203527044957208596/1206592567622373446/12390375895...

omg hyperlink that leads to an older message by me !!

abstract marsh May 27, 2024, 8:20 PM

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nice

chilly fulcrum May 28, 2024, 1:14 AM

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lethal nymph ``` 20ea ⃪ U+202a U+20e1 2031 ‱ U+2030 U+207b U+2031 U+2070 U+2031 U+...

gonna do these - just want to know how those codepoints were got to id rather not "..u-" lol

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U+bobobobobobobob

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chilly fulcrum May 28, 2024, 2:06 AM

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did we get U+20e4?

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even "..u-" doesnt work

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ok i finally got it

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via U-20e4

abstract marsh May 28, 2024, 2:11 AM

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is it fd?

chilly fulcrum May 28, 2024, 2:11 AM

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no

abstract marsh May 28, 2024, 2:11 AM

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i guess i did that

chilly fulcrum May 28, 2024, 2:12 AM

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how so

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also i cant pas U+bb

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want all U+xx

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so i dont have U+c0 and stuff

abstract marsh May 28, 2024, 2:16 AM

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chilly fulcrum how so

since the goal was to just revival i dont really need to mind much the lineage being bad

chilly fulcrum May 28, 2024, 2:18 AM

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i see

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not bad

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i had 20e0 already

abstract marsh May 28, 2024, 2:18 AM

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i see

chilly fulcrum May 28, 2024, 2:18 AM

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so how about passing U+bb

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(also im going to try generating the lookup)

abstract marsh May 28, 2024, 2:19 AM

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i dont even try making these yet

chilly fulcrum May 28, 2024, 2:20 AM

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oh ok

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i could only get to U+bb

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okay well now i have to figure out how to write to a specific row of a csv.....

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maybe star has better way of doing a lookup that is more native to sheets itself

chilly fulcrum May 28, 2024, 3:35 AM

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lookup table generator ```import csv

lookup = {} # Dictionary

def add_data(file, offset):

alias = file[:-4]

with open(file, "r", encoding = "utf-8") as file:
    data = list(csv.reader(file))
    
for i, x in enumerate(data):
    rownumber = i + 1

    if rownumber >= offset:
        base10codepoint = int(x[2])
        lookup[base10codepoint] = (rownumber, alias)

files = [["Unicode Characters.csv", 3], ["Hangul.csv", 11], ["CJK Unified Ideographs.csv", 27], ["Kangxi Radicals.csv", 1]]
for file, offset in files:
add_data(file, offset)```

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need to have those csv in your directory with those names

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and the lookup table is just a python dictionary

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but if you run it in idle or something you can then type in lookup[number] and it will tell u

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havent worked out the details on converting this to an actual csv

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now produces lookup with 0 offset

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hang on ill update it a bit

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its annoying the off by one

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i mean U+0000 i think its okay to ignore (is it tho?)

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here

📎 lookupgenerator.py

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ill remove the not in any sheet i think

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too much data

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will only lag it more

chilly fulcrum May 28, 2024, 8:27 AM

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... and we are off to the races!

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ohno i have become greek

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what does it even say

lethal nymph May 28, 2024, 8:43 AM

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currently at 20a7

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getting a lot of those two unicode sequences

night dragon May 28, 2024, 8:53 AM

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lol

tame violet May 28, 2024, 9:14 AM

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chilly fulcrum ohno i have become greek

"Roman latest"

lethal nymph May 28, 2024, 11:05 AM

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oh it's done already

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20d0    ⃐
U+20dd  U+20e0```

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and that's all

young turtle May 28, 2024, 12:11 PM

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chilly fulcrum what does it even say

Last Roman (things)
or alternative meaning
in roman language lately

young turtle May 28, 2024, 12:13 PM

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chilly fulcrum ohno i have become greek

Actually it not properly written it is missing a diaeresis on Iota

Ρωμαϊκά

final sable May 28, 2024, 12:19 PM

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I love that this server has a resident Greek xD

young turtle May 28, 2024, 3:56 PM

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final sable I love that this server has a resident Greek xD

Thanks! it is great to be here!

chilly fulcrum May 29, 2024, 12:38 AM

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well ill keep trying the greek chars

final sable May 29, 2024, 12:43 AM

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you talking about the Extended Greek block?

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there’s no way we don’t have the Greek alphabet yet

chilly fulcrum May 29, 2024, 12:44 AM

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...

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ai

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go have a look if you want

final sable May 29, 2024, 12:45 AM

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bro I’ve tried SO MUCH TECH on the Greek charcodes bahaha

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I was just hoping for something consistent to make a nice combined lineage, I didn’t know we haven’t even discovered them all yet 🤣

chilly fulcrum May 29, 2024, 12:46 AM

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i mean that is kinda the point of this thread - we dont care how

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we just want them

final sable May 29, 2024, 12:46 AM

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I’m pretty much only here for Greek letters lol

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and I’m only here in the first place because of the capitalization bug ahaha

chilly fulcrum May 29, 2024, 12:47 AM

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bug?

final sable May 29, 2024, 12:48 AM

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mhm, the game’s code has some lines in the wrong order

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it’s converts to Title Case then does a check, but it should do a check and then convert to Title Case

chilly fulcrum May 29, 2024, 12:48 AM

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checks what

final sable May 29, 2024, 12:49 AM

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I don’t remember what exactly, but the consequence (the big) is that if you have a capitalised element then you can never ever get the lowercase version

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(without the mbs mod)

chilly fulcrum May 29, 2024, 12:49 AM

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i dont think thats a bug

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i think thats intended

final sable May 29, 2024, 12:50 AM

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well I definitely consider it a bug

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because people have different inventories depending on what order they crafted things in

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I’m sure Neal doesn’t want crafts to depend on the order

chilly fulcrum May 29, 2024, 12:52 AM

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i mean i dont think anyone has told him what the consequences are of what hes done

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because they are scared

final sable May 29, 2024, 12:52 AM

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they have

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he’s been DMed (don’t remember who) telling him exactly which two lines of code are in the wrong order XD

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I’m so pissed that Ω has locked me out of ω man :((

chilly fulcrum May 29, 2024, 12:54 AM

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you dont have mbs?

final sable May 29, 2024, 12:54 AM

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I don’t really wanna use it

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coz it’s not vanilla

chilly fulcrum May 29, 2024, 12:55 AM

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i mean vanilla is unplayable at this level

final sable May 29, 2024, 12:55 AM

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ideally I’d only use aesthetics and convenience mods

chilly fulcrum May 29, 2024, 12:55 AM

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and now even mbs + helper are failing

final sable May 29, 2024, 12:55 AM

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chilly fulcrum i mean vanilla is unplayable at this level

eh I manage

chilly fulcrum May 29, 2024, 12:55 AM

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they all still attempt to render things millions of pixels off screen and it locks the whole game up

final sable May 29, 2024, 12:56 AM

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I’ve only had one really frustrating moment where “a”, .a, ‘a’, etc. wouldnt stick onto the end of an element so I had to use a

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but because of the capitalisation bug I only have and can only have A

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and it fucking gave me an element like “ufbwywifA”

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😂

chilly fulcrum May 29, 2024, 12:57 AM

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i see

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i mean it may have done so anyway but alr

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i dont think we fully know what gets fed into the ai

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if its start cased already

final sable May 29, 2024, 12:57 AM

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chilly fulcrum i dont think we fully know what gets fed into the ai

we can see in the console, no?

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I don’t look at the console so idk

chilly fulcrum May 29, 2024, 12:57 AM

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console doesnt technically tell us what the ai sees

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it tells us what comes out sure

final sable May 29, 2024, 12:58 AM

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I don’t know if infinibrowser is gonna cope when it finally opens back up 😅

chilly fulcrum May 29, 2024, 12:58 AM

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im afraid at this point theres no hope

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of that happening

final sable May 29, 2024, 12:58 AM

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there’ll be literally hundreds of thousands of lineages to submit right?

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hopefully Neal will spend at least a little time on PC InfiniteCraft after Android is released 🙏

chilly fulcrum May 29, 2024, 12:59 AM

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not likely im afraid

final sable May 29, 2024, 12:59 AM

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why do you say that?

chilly fulcrum May 29, 2024, 12:59 AM

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not unless we specifically request it

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because its been too long for a 5 minute fix

final sable May 29, 2024, 1:00 AM

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I’d only have reason to believe that if he abandoned Infinite Craft tho? and he hasn’t, he’s just making it multiplatform

chilly fulcrum May 29, 2024, 1:00 AM

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maybe

final sable May 29, 2024, 1:00 AM

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chilly fulcrum because its been too long for a 5 minute fix

you say that but do you know the kind of people who will leave their laundry for a month

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or any other 5-minute task for months xD

chilly fulcrum May 29, 2024, 1:01 AM

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yeah i get that

brave cape May 29, 2024, 1:01 AM

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chilly fulcrum i dont think we fully know what gets fed into the ai

afaik start case is being fed into AI.

final sable May 29, 2024, 1:01 AM

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that’s probs just Neal’s personality type I reckon

chilly fulcrum May 29, 2024, 1:01 AM

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but my past experience with game devs is

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...

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very not promising

final sable May 29, 2024, 1:01 AM

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if worst comes to worst I’ll just bribe him

chilly fulcrum May 29, 2024, 1:02 AM

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the game i was interested in a while ago was receiving regular updates and then in august 2018.... it suddenly stopped

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and like we chat to the dev a lot

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but its been 6 years and a whole lot of absolutely nothing has happened

final sable May 29, 2024, 1:03 AM

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well if that turns out to be the case with Neal I’ll just give him $50 to do the five-minute bug fix XD

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I love this game so much that I’m happy to support Neal with a bribe lol

chilly fulcrum May 29, 2024, 1:06 AM

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lesson: dont make typos

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haha

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alright then

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ok well i will keep trying greek

final sable May 29, 2024, 1:09 AM

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as will I

chilly fulcrum May 29, 2024, 1:09 AM

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we dont have omicron at all

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lower or upper

final sable May 29, 2024, 1:09 AM

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though without mbs I shouldn’t be 🙃

chilly fulcrum May 29, 2024, 1:09 AM

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well thats why i say

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but also

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it doesnt matter

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check console

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i did this before mbs too

final sable May 29, 2024, 1:09 AM

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nah it does matter

chilly fulcrum May 29, 2024, 1:09 AM

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console recipe is only thing that matters

final sable May 29, 2024, 1:10 AM

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the bug robs you of what should be First Discoveries

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there are cases where a recipe crafts lower case but you receive uppercase because you already had the uppercase

chilly fulcrum May 29, 2024, 1:10 AM

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yes

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we know

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i guess yeah you lose fd

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as does everyone

final sable May 29, 2024, 1:11 AM

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ohh so it actually still is in the server’s recipe database

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lmao that’s jokes

chilly fulcrum May 29, 2024, 1:11 AM

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im fairly sure yeah

final sable May 29, 2024, 1:11 AM

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but in that case only the server knows about it if the person isn’t checking their console

chilly fulcrum May 29, 2024, 1:11 AM

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yes

final sable May 29, 2024, 1:11 AM

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so useless to the actual players

chilly fulcrum May 29, 2024, 1:11 AM

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thats right

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but its still technically an obtain

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since that recipe will work

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forever

final sable May 29, 2024, 1:12 AM

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but nobody else will know about the recipe

chilly fulcrum May 29, 2024, 1:12 AM

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but feel free to try omicron since we dont have it upper or lower

final sable May 29, 2024, 1:12 AM

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because the person who did it wouldn’t remark about it

chilly fulcrum May 29, 2024, 1:12 AM

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right

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look i think we do ought to tell him a bit more but we are scared

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im not sure the ful consequences of what he has done are actually known to him

final sable May 29, 2024, 1:13 AM

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I’m not 🫡

chilly fulcrum May 29, 2024, 1:13 AM

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because what he has done is presumably to fix confusion but it just makes it worse

final sable May 29, 2024, 1:13 AM

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I mean if it was intentional then it’s actually good in the vast majority of cases

chilly fulcrum May 29, 2024, 1:13 AM

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kind of

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dead elements 💀

final sable May 29, 2024, 1:14 AM

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it’s just these edge cases that are problematic

chilly fulcrum May 29, 2024, 1:14 AM

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i dont think he knows dead elements exist

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tbh

final sable May 29, 2024, 1:14 AM

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aintnoway

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if he doesn’t know that then he hasn’t played his own game

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zombie elements sure, but dead elements no way

chilly fulcrum May 29, 2024, 1:14 AM

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not unusual - im pretty sure windows developers dont actually use windows

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because things make no sense

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clipboard pins get pinned to the bottom

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🤮

final sable May 29, 2024, 1:15 AM

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I’m almost certain that non-title-case elements being dead is a feature not a bug

abstract marsh May 29, 2024, 1:15 AM

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lol

chilly fulcrum May 29, 2024, 1:15 AM

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i mean they are temporarily dead

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which is just

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gonna be confusing

tepid blaze May 29, 2024, 1:15 AM

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🍿.

final sable May 29, 2024, 1:16 AM

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no that’s not how it works tho?

chilly fulcrum May 29, 2024, 1:16 AM

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well its technically indefinite

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but you can make it definite

final sable May 29, 2024, 1:16 AM

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when an element is revived and you craft with the dead version, the game is actually receiving the title-case version I thought

chilly fulcrum May 29, 2024, 1:16 AM

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i believe that is true ye

final sable May 29, 2024, 1:17 AM

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yeah so “temporarily dead” isn’t it at all

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when it’s revived it’s literally two different elements, just the dead one behaves exactly like the alive one

chilly fulcrum May 29, 2024, 1:17 AM

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yes

final sable May 29, 2024, 1:17 AM

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yooooooo

abstract marsh May 29, 2024, 1:17 AM

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then explain zombies 😂

final sable May 29, 2024, 1:17 AM

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do we have this mod:

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to make your inventory only contain alive elements

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?

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because if you can’t craft with dead elements there’s literally no point having them in the crafting menu

chilly fulcrum May 29, 2024, 1:18 AM

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thats been tried but theres not an easy way to tell if something is dead 100%

tepid blaze May 29, 2024, 1:18 AM

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final sable because if you can’t craft with dead elements there’s literally no point having ...

Annnnd that the moment zombie could be annoying

final sable May 29, 2024, 1:19 AM

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oop I don’t know anything about zombie so I’ll just shush xD

chilly fulcrum May 29, 2024, 1:19 AM

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i dont either tbh

final sable May 29, 2024, 1:19 AM

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don’t wanna know either 💀

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anyway in much more positive news

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I may have found tech even better than the Chromatic tech

final sable May 29, 2024, 1:20 AM

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final sable I may have found tech even better than the Chromatic tech

which if I’m not mistaken is the most consistent and versatile tech we have so far

chilly fulcrum May 29, 2024, 1:20 AM

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something liket hat

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that and derivatives

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although i see it being used less and less and swapped out with tech that even the users cant really explain

final sable May 29, 2024, 1:20 AM

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I have an exam tomorrow so I can’t test, but I’ll let you guys know soon

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basically I’ve found a REALLY sticky element whose stickiness should make it even better than Chromatic

chilly fulcrum May 29, 2024, 1:23 AM

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how sticky

final sable May 29, 2024, 1:23 AM

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I don’t want to give it away

abstract marsh May 29, 2024, 1:23 AM

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not understandable & have a nice day

final sable May 29, 2024, 1:24 AM

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but it’s one element X out of about twenty related element which is unique in that “the X” + Y gives “the X Y” almost without fail

chilly fulcrum May 29, 2024, 1:24 AM

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bruh i just spend a while getting U+0378

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and then i realsie

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its unassinged

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and im an idiot

abstract marsh May 29, 2024, 1:24 AM

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blunder

final sable May 29, 2024, 1:24 AM

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final sable but it’s one element X out of about twenty related element which is unique in th...

all of the related elements don’t do this at all, but this one does almost perfectly

chilly fulcrum May 29, 2024, 1:25 AM

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💀

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if its short then its probably quote useful

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chromatic is borderline too long

final sable May 29, 2024, 1:26 AM

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and it’s quite a short element too so we won’t have the same problem as with Chromatic where “the Chromatic Y Z” is too many tokens

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ye

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it’s a 5-letter element

chilly fulcrum May 29, 2024, 1:26 AM

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its not a token issue its a > 30 char = dead issue

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that for sure is intended

final sable May 29, 2024, 1:26 AM

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so with “the ” that’s 11 characters

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(assuming “ is one char)

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oh I thought tokens just meant length my bad

chilly fulcrum May 29, 2024, 1:27 AM

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token means llama token

final sable May 29, 2024, 1:27 AM

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ah

chilly fulcrum May 29, 2024, 1:27 AM

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theres an output limit of 20 token

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(note: not divisible by 3)

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meaning you can only have 6 exotic unicodes

final sable May 29, 2024, 1:27 AM

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chilly fulcrum chromatic is borderline too long

“the prepend” or “the aged” is good in this situation btw

chilly fulcrum May 29, 2024, 1:27 AM

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(3 tokens each)

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7th unicode is cut off and produces invalid UTF-8

final sable May 29, 2024, 1:28 AM

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wait so if X has n tokens and Y has m tokens and you combine X and Y does the AI get an input with n+m tokens?

chilly fulcrum May 29, 2024, 1:29 AM

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we technically dont know

abstract marsh May 29, 2024, 1:29 AM

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https://belladoreai.github.io/llama-tokenizer-js/example-demo/build/
you would be interested in using this feature

llama-tokenizer-js playground

Web site created using create-react-app

chilly fulcrum May 29, 2024, 1:29 AM

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but input tokens isnt relevant thankfully

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as far as we know

final sable May 29, 2024, 1:29 AM

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final sable wait so if X has n tokens and Y has m tokens and you combine X and Y does the AI...

so you’re saying it doesn’t seem to behave in this way then?

chilly fulcrum May 29, 2024, 1:31 AM

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we dont know and i dont think we can know

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and its not relevant as far as we know so we havent pushed that side of things iirc

final sable May 29, 2024, 1:32 AM

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it’s relevant to the https://discord.com/channels/1203527044957208596/1208450449636855848 peeps

chilly fulcrum May 29, 2024, 1:32 AM

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but we think the input literally looks like f"{X} + {Y}"

final sable May 29, 2024, 1:32 AM

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because we sometimes like to do equations

chilly fulcrum May 29, 2024, 1:32 AM

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why do input matter

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as far as we know input token counts have nothing at all to do with anything

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well

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technically "we" = me

final sable May 29, 2024, 1:32 AM

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and in higher math equations and formulas can have lots of obscure symbols

chilly fulcrum May 29, 2024, 1:33 AM

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i didnt exactly ask everyone

final sable May 29, 2024, 1:33 AM

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chilly fulcrum as far as we know input token counts have nothing at all to do with anything

thank god (if that’s the case), because if it did just add up the tokens of the inputs you wouldn’t be able to make any math equations with more than a few special symbols

chilly fulcrum May 29, 2024, 1:34 AM

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im not sure i follow are you confusing input and output? or am i confusing some3thing

final sable May 29, 2024, 1:34 AM

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what I’m saying is if X has n tokens and Y has m tokens, does f"{X} + {Y}" have (at least) n+m tokens

chilly fulcrum May 29, 2024, 1:34 AM

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as far as i know the game doesnt care if the input to the ai happens to be 1 trillion tokens - its only that the output is limited to 20 tokens

final sable May 29, 2024, 1:35 AM

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ahh

chilly fulcrum May 29, 2024, 1:35 AM

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so if you put 7 unicodes in a response (3 tokens each) it will return you FFFD FFFD FFFD etc etc

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because thats an invalid string

final sable May 29, 2024, 1:35 AM

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chilly fulcrum as far as i know the game doesnt care if the input to the ai happens to be 1 tri...

that’d be good for us, but that is a little weird I have to say

chilly fulcrum May 29, 2024, 1:36 AM

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3 into 20 does not go

final sable May 29, 2024, 1:36 AM

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that it would care about the complexity of the output but not care at all about the complex of the input

chilly fulcrum May 29, 2024, 1:36 AM

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theres the 30 char limit

final sable May 29, 2024, 1:36 AM

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but maybe that’s just how LLMs are—I know hardly anything about them

chilly fulcrum May 29, 2024, 1:36 AM

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but if you could in theory make it super dense

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like 100000 tokens in 1 char (not possible but pretend it was)

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we dont have anything saying that it would care

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apart from the recipe timing out

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because i dont think it would compute it in 12 sec

abstract marsh May 29, 2024, 1:38 AM

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4 token in one char is probs something i have seen... but not beyond that
iirc, some discussion was about more than 4 token in one char maybe does exist...

chilly fulcrum May 29, 2024, 1:38 AM

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if the input format is how we think it is then the maximum allowed input is 73 chars

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oh right

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perhaps

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like the super high unicodes

final sable May 29, 2024, 1:38 AM

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abstract marsh 4 token in one char is probs something i have seen... but not beyond that iirc, ...

I mean the character with the most tokens is bound to be unicode so this is the place to find out :D

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we could even put a column in the spreadsheet for the number of tokens of each character if we wanted to get SUPER nerdy

chilly fulcrum May 29, 2024, 1:39 AM

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its mostly consistent to the number of bytes it is in UTF-8 but some of them are different

final sable May 29, 2024, 1:39 AM

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right I need to bedge it’s nearly 3am and I have exam tomorrow afternoon xD

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but before I go I must know one thing

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you call yourself rubiksmath

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but do you know the mathematics of the rubiks cube 🤨

chilly fulcrum May 29, 2024, 1:40 AM

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to some extent yes

final sable May 29, 2024, 1:40 AM

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:D

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you done a course in group theory?

chilly fulcrum May 29, 2024, 1:42 AM

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no i havent, but i loosely understand a group of operations known as commutators (ABA'B') which you can use to solve it however you like

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as well as kociemba algorithm

final sable May 29, 2024, 1:42 AM

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that’s just the algorithms for solving it tho that’s not mathematical

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I mean like actual theorems about the cube 😮‍💨

chilly fulcrum May 29, 2024, 1:44 AM

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would need example - as i said i havent taken formally a course but i loosely know what a group is (although its been a while since i last looked at them)

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symmetries is probably as far as i could go

final sable May 29, 2024, 1:45 AM

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I guess the most important one is just what the symmetry group of the Rubiks cube is

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https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/media/math/render/svg/46b913d8534e6bea2d23ed919604698d26cf35f8

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it has that many symmetries lol

chilly fulcrum May 29, 2024, 1:47 AM

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thats the number of states

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which i know how to calculate

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although combinatorically

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not through anything to do with groups

final sable May 29, 2024, 1:48 AM

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this is the actual group

chilly fulcrum May 29, 2024, 1:48 AM

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but the way i understand that is you just combinatorically multiply all the options then divide by 12 for "illegal" positions

final sable May 29, 2024, 1:48 AM

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chilly fulcrum although combinatorically

you’re probably (whether you know it or not) using the Orbit-Stabilizer theorem to calculate it so that’s group theory :D

chilly fulcrum May 29, 2024, 1:49 AM

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basically saying that if you broke ur cube and assembled it randomly only 1/12 of the time it will be solvable

final sable May 29, 2024, 1:49 AM

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chilly fulcrum basically saying that if you broke ur cube and assembled it randomly only 1/12 o...

ye that’s also a nice mathematical fact about the cube :D

chilly fulcrum May 29, 2024, 1:49 AM

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as for where 12 comes from... thats tricky to gain an intuitive understanding for

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but an explanation i saw just investigated the effects of 1 move

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it was very loose

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but yeah it defined parameters

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did a move

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and said this is what it does to those parameters

final sable May 29, 2024, 1:50 AM

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welp luckily you know not to reassemble your cube wrong xD

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right

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🛏 😴

chilly fulcrum May 29, 2024, 1:51 AM

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well yeah youd hope

final sable May 29, 2024, 1:51 AM

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just assemble it solved lmao

chilly fulcrum May 29, 2024, 1:51 AM

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i just assemble randomly and solve as far as i can

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worst case i have to take out 3 pieces

final sable May 29, 2024, 1:52 AM

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bruh

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naughty step for u

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anyway gn :)

chilly fulcrum May 29, 2024, 1:52 AM

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ok

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gn

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i mean i can assemble it in a scrambled but solvable state too

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the parameters are easy to identify

unkempt lantern May 29, 2024, 7:02 AM

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final sable coz it’s not vanilla

Should be fine if you don't use two elements that you shouldn't be able to get together in the same lineage no? Beats having to make a new save

chilly fulcrum May 29, 2024, 7:03 AM

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i mean they behave identically so even if you do it doesnt matter you can just swap it out for one or the other

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you were trying the math stuff in 1dxxx right?

unkempt lantern May 29, 2024, 7:13 AM

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Not anymore

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I wanted mathematical monospace L and V in order to craft V=L with them but I gave up

unkempt lantern May 29, 2024, 7:15 AM

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chilly fulcrum i mean they behave identically so even if you do it doesnt matter you can just s...

That explains things with omega

lethal nymph May 29, 2024, 7:16 AM

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final sable to make your inventory only contain alive elements

it is quite literally impossible to do that

chilly fulcrum May 29, 2024, 7:17 AM

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oh okay well if theres anything you want i am happy to try

chilly fulcrum May 29, 2024, 11:18 AM

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#correct-charcode is blunted out of its mind

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its literally now just a codepoint to base 10 converter

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who did this

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who ruined it

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gr

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the real solution:

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"give up" strat overpowered ngl

candid trellis May 29, 2024, 11:40 AM

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ҏ CYRILLIC SMALL LETTER ER WITH TICK

chilly fulcrum May 29, 2024, 11:41 AM

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okay

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💀

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we playing mario kart

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in greek

young turtle May 29, 2024, 11:43 AM

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Χαχαχα my favorite game

young turtle May 29, 2024, 11:44 AM

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chilly fulcrum #correct-charcode is blunted out of its mind

Can you elaborate on this pls?

chilly fulcrum May 29, 2024, 11:46 AM

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an element that seems to no longer perform like it used to

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k this is too fun

young turtle May 29, 2024, 11:47 AM

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So I will tell my pain here. I have crafted more than 10k elements in greek characters but none of them contains the two unicode letters I have asked for at the “ask a word, we will make” before that being banned by nata i guess (single unicode characters orders)

That is Έ and ΰ

candid trellis May 29, 2024, 11:48 AM

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it's not banned atm I think?

young turtle May 29, 2024, 11:48 AM

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chilly fulcrum k this is too fun

Only the first and last words are valid greek words

chilly fulcrum May 29, 2024, 11:48 AM

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how do you go about crafting greek elements

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i mean im just throwing words at codepoints

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for fun

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and every once in a while it spits out some greek

young turtle May 29, 2024, 11:49 AM

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The last is Μαριονέτα

candid trellis May 29, 2024, 11:49 AM

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'CYRILLIC SMALL LETTER ROUND OMEGA' (U+047B)

sage wren May 29, 2024, 11:49 AM

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marionette my guess

chilly fulcrum May 29, 2024, 11:49 AM

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well thats like just replacing the english letters with greek equivalent

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i dont think thats actual translation

sage wren May 29, 2024, 11:50 AM

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chilly fulcrum well thats like just replacing the english letters with greek equivalent

ᨁᨍᨈᨄᨉ ᨄᨍᨂ ᨘᨂᨗᨔᨙᨊᨖ ᨁᨇᨄᨍ ᨄᨍᨈᨄ

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sorry wrong keyboard

young turtle May 29, 2024, 11:50 AM

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chilly fulcrum how do you go about crafting greek elements

Well I have uploaded a draft of a code at #dev message

chilly fulcrum May 29, 2024, 11:50 AM

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okay and what does it do though

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like what is its strategy

young turtle May 29, 2024, 11:51 AM

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chilly fulcrum well thats like just replacing the english letters with greek equivalent

Yes that is basically what it does it tries to transliterate if it doesn’t know the word

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My strategy at first was throw all possible English elements i had to Ελληνική Μετάφραση or Ελληνικά

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But that most if the time returns garbage

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So I added an extra check to reject all the words that are not spelled correctly with the help of an online speller api

chilly fulcrum May 29, 2024, 11:53 AM

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arent you just after some specific characters or whats the goal

young turtle May 29, 2024, 11:53 AM

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That hopefully trains the AI to only give me valid greek words

young turtle May 29, 2024, 11:54 AM

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chilly fulcrum arent you just after some specific characters or whats the goal

The goal is the greek corpus🙈😂

chilly fulcrum May 29, 2024, 11:54 AM

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okay

young turtle May 29, 2024, 11:54 AM

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I am being ambitious

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Well tbh the goal was the greek gods at first

chilly fulcrum May 29, 2024, 11:54 AM

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i mean you are welcome to request a word with one of those characters in it

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as far as i know

young turtle May 29, 2024, 11:54 AM

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And the greek islands

chilly fulcrum May 29, 2024, 11:55 AM

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unless they didnt like it

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i forgor

candid trellis May 29, 2024, 11:55 AM

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'CANADIAN SYLLABICS CARRIER LU' (U+1622)
and
U+17ee (not assigned I think?)

sage wren May 29, 2024, 11:56 AM

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candid trellis 'CANADIAN SYLLABICS CARRIER LU' (U+1622) and U+17ee (not assigned I think?)

yeah unassigned

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You can easily check by just googling u+whatevs since unicode should always pop up from that if it exists

young turtle May 29, 2024, 11:56 AM

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Well unfortunately a lot of these words contain a common used character in greek: ε epsilon and when that happens to be at the beginning of the word and has a tonos no valid words can come out of the game without using the character Έ

chilly fulcrum May 29, 2024, 11:56 AM

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are you just going straight to the code points every time with "..u-"

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im getting all these fd incrementing up to it

candid trellis May 29, 2024, 11:57 AM

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sage wren You can easily check by just googling u+whatevs since unicode should always pop ...

yeah I put it on one site and it said doesnt exist. was 99% sure that meant unassigned but not 100%

chilly fulcrum May 29, 2024, 11:59 AM

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are you like specifically going for those only and no others? like im getting fd by incrementing to it

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like 0770 is fd

candid trellis May 29, 2024, 11:59 AM

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'CYRILLIC CAPITAL LETTER KOMI TJE' (U+050E)

sage wren May 29, 2024, 12:00 PM

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reminds me of that town named Kommetjie

chilly fulcrum May 29, 2024, 12:00 PM

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um also where is codetofromunicode

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never mind i will just try

candid trellis May 29, 2024, 12:01 PM

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chilly fulcrum um also where is codetofromunicode

Glowy posted the recipe this week or last week iirc

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'CYRILLIC CAPITAL LETTER KOMI NJE' (U+050A)

candid trellis May 29, 2024, 12:02 PM

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chilly fulcrum um also where is codetofromunicode

#1206592567622373446 message

chilly fulcrum May 29, 2024, 12:08 PM

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damn discord search

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cyrillic to unicode gives 7 results, 0 of which contain a recipe

abstract marsh May 29, 2024, 12:09 PM

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candid trellis Glowy posted the recipe this week or last week iirc

glad it does something 😂

graceful marsh May 29, 2024, 12:09 PM

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#1206592567622373446 message

chilly fulcrum May 29, 2024, 12:12 PM

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young turtle So I will tell my pain here. I have crafted more than 10k elements in greek char...

well it looks like your script isnt working so how about we change tactics and see if we can get some others involved? im more than happy to help

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observations is that codepoint ends in 8

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so attention should be focused on those

abstract marsh May 29, 2024, 12:17 PM

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nom nom...

chilly fulcrum May 29, 2024, 12:18 PM

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interesting

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in UTF-8

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they both end in 03

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i wonder

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....

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brain thinking intensely

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oh wait no im stupid

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utf-16 little endian

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no wonder

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duh

abstract marsh May 29, 2024, 12:19 PM

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xD

chilly fulcrum May 29, 2024, 12:19 PM

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look little endian is stupid dont blame me

chilly fulcrum May 29, 2024, 12:45 PM

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do we have greek to unicode

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im suffering trying to make it

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groan

chilly fulcrum May 29, 2024, 1:27 PM

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Will try more tomorrow

young turtle May 29, 2024, 1:36 PM

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chilly fulcrum do we have greek to unicode

Yes we have them! Sorry I've just seen your message

chilly fulcrum May 29, 2024, 1:37 PM

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I just got FD on it a little ago

rich roseBOT May 29, 2024, 1:38 PM

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💙 Greek Unicode

🇬🇷 Greek Alphabet + 🔤 Unicode = 💙 Greek Unicode

Lineage

⚛️ Periodic Table + 🏔️ Rocky Mountains = 🧨 Rocky Periodic Table
🌊 Lake + 🏔️ Mountain = 🏞️ Fjord
🔥 Fire + 🔥 Fire = 🌋 Volcano
🌊 Lake + 🌋 Volcano = 🏝️ Island
🏝️ Island + 🏝️ Island = 🌎 Continent
🌎 Continent + 🏞️ Fjord = 🇪🇺 Europe
🇪🇺 Europe + 💧 Water = 🏖️ Mediterranean
🌎 Continent + 🌊 Lake = 🇺🇸 America
🇺🇸 America + 🌎 Continent = 🌎 North America
🌎 North America + 💧 Water = 🍁 Canada
🍁 Canada + 🏖️ Mediterranean = 🏞️ Canaan
🏞️ Canaan + 🏖️ Mediterranean = 🌅 Phoenicia
🌅 Phoenicia + 🧨 Rocky Periodic Table = 🔤 Phoenician Alphabet
🌍 Earth + 🪐 Planet = 🌙 Moon
🌙 Moon + 🌬️ Wind = 🐺 Werewolf
🌍 Earth + 🐺 Werewolf = 🐺 Wolf
🐺 Wolf + 🐺 Wolf = 🐺 Wolf Pack
🐺 Werewolf + 🐺 Wolf Pack = 🔡 Alpha
🔡 Alpha + 🔤 Phoenician Alphabet = 🇬🇷 Greek Alphabet
🇬🇷 Greek Alphabet + 🔤 Unicode = 💙 Greek Unicode

young turtle May 29, 2024, 1:38 PM

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?

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A sorry you said Greek to Unicode

abstract marsh May 29, 2024, 1:43 PM

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as rubik says : i've found it
#1215495041049436170 message

chilly fulcrum May 29, 2024, 2:18 PM

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Yeah Greek to Unicode

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took too long

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I need to know how others would do it I feel like it should be a 1 minute thing

tepid blaze May 29, 2024, 2:32 PM

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would probably build it using altphabet

chilly fulcrum May 29, 2024, 2:33 PM

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fair enough how was it

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I recently stopped doing that much

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because it started spitting in my face and making absolutely zero attempt

tepid blaze May 29, 2024, 2:34 PM

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tepid blaze would probably build it using altphabet

may be a little bit more annoying to get it out of ""

chilly fulcrum May 29, 2024, 2:34 PM

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I could combine 10,000 elements with it if I wanted and every single one would get eaten

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Maybe with hyphens it is ok

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There’s no alphabet order issues provided you had all the words in quotes already

abstract marsh May 29, 2024, 2:37 PM

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i would try it in #greek with something #tounicode for better way, but idk either

tepid blaze May 29, 2024, 2:38 PM

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tepid blaze may be a little bit more annoying to get it out of ""

ive said nothing its was not that annoying but its everything except optimized since i used Write A Backslash At The End (here the way i did it: lineage)

chilly fulcrum May 29, 2024, 3:47 PM

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In the end as I said I got it with Mr but it shouldn’t have worked

final sable May 29, 2024, 3:56 PM

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Mr and Mrs tech is obsolete now surely

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imagine having to make Mr X and Mrs X to get X 😪👎

lethal nymph May 29, 2024, 3:57 PM

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they are literally as essential as hashtag and unplural tech

final sable May 29, 2024, 3:58 PM

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I’ve managed just fine without them

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ofc I’ve used them doing other people’s lineages tho

lethal nymph May 29, 2024, 3:58 PM

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try getting Gedser without mr. tech

final sable May 29, 2024, 3:59 PM

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if you can get alt alphabets and hashtag tech without Mr tech then surely you can get Gedser, or whatever you want really

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I guess the way to put it is I’ve only ever used Mr tech as tech tech xD

lethal nymph May 29, 2024, 4:00 PM

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mr. tech is essential if you ever want correct casing of an element

final sable May 29, 2024, 4:00 PM

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ahh okay 👍

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I presume it’s all over the revival thread then

lethal nymph May 29, 2024, 4:01 PM

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and speedrunning

final sable May 29, 2024, 4:02 PM

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Infinite Craft would be a very different game if Mr Beast never got popular then 😅

lethal nymph May 29, 2024, 4:02 PM

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i mean there's still mr. bean

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it's a common honorific anyway

final sable May 29, 2024, 4:05 PM

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lol that’s reminded me that the game recognised the most obscure reference yesterday

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the element Twelvety has the emoji 🐘

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which is from a British dark comedy show from DECADES ago lol

twin bay May 29, 2024, 4:17 PM

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Found something interesting.```
U+0022 : QUOTATION MARK {double quote}
U+2065 : <reserved>(unassigned)
U+0022 : QUOTATION MARK {double quote}

abstract marsh May 29, 2024, 4:48 PM

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heck

hybrid reef May 29, 2024, 8:37 PM

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abstract marsh heck

heck

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my collection of different "a"s is even bigger now

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we can make fake fds with this one

final sable May 29, 2024, 10:05 PM

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Are zombie elements when a dead element still doesn’t work after it has been revived?

graceful marsh May 29, 2024, 10:07 PM

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Wait what

Not quite, the typical zombie is an element that should work but does not

Is Without The The acting oddly?

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I've never heard of a revival zombie

final sable May 29, 2024, 10:08 PM

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😭😭😭

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yeah it’s a “revival zombie” for me

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I crafted the correctly-capitalized version on my alt savefile and everything’s fine there

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but on my main where I accidentally killed it, still dead even though revived

graceful marsh May 29, 2024, 10:09 PM

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Ah, that sounds like a cachelock problem

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Your browser still believes the element to be dead for certain recipes

final sable May 29, 2024, 10:10 PM

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even though my alt file is on a different browser? I main on Firefox and alt on Chrome

graceful marsh May 29, 2024, 10:10 PM

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Yeah

Firefox's cache hasn't been changed yet

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(this is a bad explanation but am sweepy)

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You can disable it though

final sable May 29, 2024, 10:11 PM

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can I fix the element on my main then?

graceful marsh May 29, 2024, 10:12 PM

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I don't know Firefox well enough to know where to look to disable cache, unfortunately

twin bay May 29, 2024, 10:12 PM

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Ctrl + Alt + Delete
Set to only Cache and Last Hour > Clear Now

final sable May 29, 2024, 10:12 PM

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okay but if I disable it it’ll work without wiping my save?

graceful marsh May 29, 2024, 10:12 PM

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Yep

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Save is on LocalStorage, separate system

final sable May 29, 2024, 10:13 PM

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and should I reenable it after I’ve fixed the element?

graceful marsh May 29, 2024, 10:14 PM

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Eisern's Solution™ is a cache rollback, not a disabling, so there'd be nothing to reenable

final sable May 29, 2024, 10:14 PM

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okie :D

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tysm guys

twin bay May 29, 2024, 10:14 PM

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But I also use this Bookmarklet:
#dev message

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To disable cache

final sable May 29, 2024, 10:14 PM

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to keep it disabled, you mean?

twin bay May 29, 2024, 10:15 PM

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Yeah, you just have to press the bookmark every time you open the page

final sable May 29, 2024, 10:15 PM

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so will that make vanilla Infinite Craft slightly less broken? 👀

twin bay May 29, 2024, 10:15 PM

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You'll never get cachelocked, at the very least

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You can also disable cache in the devtools of firefox, but you need to keep devtools open, which is a performance hit

tepid blaze May 29, 2024, 10:16 PM

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or you have disable cache in the network tab in F12

twin bay May 29, 2024, 10:16 PM

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^that

final sable May 29, 2024, 10:16 PM

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so you think the only gameplay it affects is to ensure revival works then?

graceful marsh May 29, 2024, 10:16 PM

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The firey fox comes to help with the Firefox

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Yes

tepid blaze May 29, 2024, 10:16 PM

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graceful marsh The firey fox comes to help with the Firefox

lol

graceful marsh May 29, 2024, 10:17 PM

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And also to avoid internet problems locking you out of recipes too

final sable May 29, 2024, 10:17 PM

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👍

graceful marsh May 29, 2024, 10:18 PM

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Y'know, the Fuezt-Laurasia-Eisern color palette is very nice

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Nice peaking reds with Eisern's blue

twin bay May 29, 2024, 10:19 PM

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I see no peaking reds 🤔

graceful marsh May 29, 2024, 10:19 PM

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My explosion and Fuezt's fur

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Although I am colourblind

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That might be a problem

twin bay May 29, 2024, 10:20 PM

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Explosion looks yellow, and fox is orange, on my screen

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🤷‍♂️

tepid blaze May 29, 2024, 10:20 PM

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tepid blaze lol

yep no red

graceful marsh May 29, 2024, 10:20 PM

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Okay yeah I'm just colourblind

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Nevermind

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It does genuinely look red to me though

twin bay May 29, 2024, 10:21 PM

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Could just be screen settings

graceful marsh May 29, 2024, 10:21 PM

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Possibly

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I still stand by the colour palette looking nice even if I can't tell what colours they are

twin bay May 29, 2024, 10:22 PM

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I will allow this opinion to go unchallenged

chilly fulcrum May 30, 2024, 1:51 AM

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Yeah it’s pink for you and then yellow shifted slightly towards orange for Eisern and fuezt

tepid blaze May 30, 2024, 2:10 AM

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chilly fulcrum Yeah it’s pink for you and then yellow shifted slightly towards orange for Eiser...

laurasia was more talking about pfp colors more than role color (#1206592567622373446 message)

chilly fulcrum May 30, 2024, 2:11 AM

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ooh ok

chilly fulcrum May 30, 2024, 6:29 AM

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its so stupid that this works

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U+03 + U+aa = U+03aa

abstract marsh May 30, 2024, 6:29 AM

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if that works, thats better

chilly fulcrum May 30, 2024, 7:02 AM

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the ai is very convinced omicron = omega

young turtle May 30, 2024, 8:40 AM

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chilly fulcrum the ai is very convinced omicron = omega

Yes I can confirm

chilly fulcrum May 30, 2024, 8:53 AM

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It’s a case of correct emoji but wrong result

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we need to figure out to break those

nova umbra May 30, 2024, 9:22 AM

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.

chilly fulcrum May 30, 2024, 9:23 AM

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alright

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done

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2 new additions

abstract marsh May 30, 2024, 10:17 AM

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ឋនឨឩ
U+178B U+1793 U+17A8 U+17A9
imma try aim for these four unicode

abstract marsh May 30, 2024, 10:29 AM

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abstract marsh ឋនឨឩ U+178B U+1793 U+17A8 U+17A9 imma try aim for these four unicode

@stable verge this four...
i'll attempt until i gave up :>

stable verge May 30, 2024, 10:31 AM

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k

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actually put it in the forms

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put it in here @abstract marsh https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1lOFUbL9NmWV6rYpSVEIdm7DCzo0Oc4ysNi9e25Ehqzw/edit

Google Docs

Correct Emoji White Holes

Type Your White Hole Here! Make sure it is a White Hole!

candid trellis May 30, 2024, 10:32 AM

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Does this just sometimes happen?

thin warren May 30, 2024, 10:32 AM

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wtf

candid trellis May 30, 2024, 10:32 AM

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\n

chilly fulcrum May 30, 2024, 10:32 AM

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hmm i dont usually add U+000a (newline) to quoted unicodes

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so i dont know

thin warren May 30, 2024, 10:33 AM

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i mean you are using newline

chilly fulcrum May 30, 2024, 10:33 AM

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yeah you are adding newline

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but thats pretty funny

candid trellis May 30, 2024, 10:33 AM

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oh is U+000a a newline

chilly fulcrum May 30, 2024, 10:33 AM

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yes

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its ascii 10

thin warren May 30, 2024, 10:33 AM

#

#

oh

candid trellis May 30, 2024, 10:33 AM

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icic

chilly fulcrum May 30, 2024, 10:33 AM

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= 0xa

candid trellis May 30, 2024, 10:33 AM

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I just added some random early unicodes to it since the usual didnt unquote it

chilly fulcrum May 30, 2024, 10:34 AM

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what did you try

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if it doesnt unquote you are in trouble but there is a semi-reliable route via Hashtag The or Hashtag The #

candid trellis May 30, 2024, 10:34 AM

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U+ U+ U+0 U+00 U+0000 + and a small amount of early unicodes

thin warren May 30, 2024, 10:34 AM

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did you try getting rid of the periods as well ?

candid trellis May 30, 2024, 10:34 AM

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hashtag worked (got it in U+ now)

candid trellis May 30, 2024, 10:35 AM

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thin warren did you try getting rid of the periods as well ?

yeah, had to do a different way tho

chilly fulcrum May 30, 2024, 10:35 AM

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removing the periods if it doesnt work the usual way.... you are in big trouble

abstract marsh May 30, 2024, 10:35 AM

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stable verge put it in here <@1169642686043672750> https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1lOFUbL9Nm...

later, oh look

chilly fulcrum May 30, 2024, 10:35 AM

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only if they display the correct emoji of course

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which idk how 2 check

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you can dig up your save i guess

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but in console there should be a way

abstract marsh May 30, 2024, 10:37 AM

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gotcha

chilly fulcrum May 30, 2024, 10:37 AM

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ancient asciifromunicode - also very nice

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im trying similar for greek but to no success - brent got cyrillic to give actual cyrillic at 07xx

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i have tried various

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no luck ye4t

abstract marsh May 30, 2024, 10:39 AM

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now im left with 178B and 1793

candid trellis May 30, 2024, 10:40 AM

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abstract marsh May 30, 2024, 10:42 AM

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lineage for Ancient Asciifromunicode

chilly fulcrum May 30, 2024, 10:49 AM

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have not been able to get similar success - wonder if cause greek is so low down

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so maybe i need to go lower

abstract marsh May 30, 2024, 10:52 AM

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Directly From Unicode

chilly fulcrum May 30, 2024, 10:57 AM

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hmm do you just search unicode now and try em all

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often behaviour of a lot is similar

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need to pick out some "special" ones

abstract marsh May 30, 2024, 11:02 AM

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idk really...
for that one i found out 07xx something can go 17xx but the tool is inconsistent so gotta try alot of tool

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whoops

candid trellis May 30, 2024, 11:03 AM

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it's whack that unicode just change their first/second digit/letter when becoming characters

chilly fulcrum May 30, 2024, 11:03 AM

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yeah well i have 100 or so pinned

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out of about ~400 id say that have like a small chance

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and i cant be bothered to sort through all 400

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and try things with no chance

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so i need to get out the more special ones

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but then again when its a specific language block i guess i have to just deal with it

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skull emoji is a very bad sign

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same with the no symbol

stable verge May 30, 2024, 11:05 AM

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abstract marsh later, oh look

put it in the forms!1!!!

chilly fulcrum May 30, 2024, 11:05 AM

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i hate how it finds the closest look-alike to 🚫 and just gives you that

abstract marsh May 30, 2024, 11:08 AM

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stable verge put it in the forms!1!!!

already found 3 out of 4
so no, it might be possible
also i need revival for this

chilly fulcrum May 30, 2024, 11:08 AM

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single curlies

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ono

abstract marsh May 30, 2024, 11:09 AM

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( Apostrophe + Previous ) + #directly
that is the recipe to reach there

chilly fulcrum May 30, 2024, 11:10 AM

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interesting

stable verge May 30, 2024, 11:10 AM

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abstract marsh already found 3 out of 4 so no, it might be possible also i need revival for thi...

put it in the forms!!!!!1!1!

chilly fulcrum May 30, 2024, 11:11 AM

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so crazy this works

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U+029 + U+a

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crazy

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= U+029a

abstract marsh May 30, 2024, 11:12 AM

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yeah good tech one and simple to get

chilly fulcrum May 30, 2024, 11:13 AM

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so do you try everything with unicode in it

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or unifont

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for these rough ones

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i have too many to search

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cause cutoff

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sad

abstract marsh May 30, 2024, 11:16 AM

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yeah i'll try one that has relationship with it
like Khmer Unicode, Khmer Unicode [number]
then goes anything with from and then Aksara Unicode
after that... freestyle by choosing everything

chilly fulcrum May 30, 2024, 11:16 AM

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from?

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like from khmer unicode

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e.g.

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for 39f

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i am trying with 29f

abstract marsh May 30, 2024, 11:18 AM

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nope
Directly From Unicode
fromunicode
fromcharcode
.fromcharcode
Asciifromunicode
Ancient Asciifromunicode
etc etc

chilly fulcrum May 30, 2024, 11:19 AM

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ok

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well i am instead fd a lot of random unassigned

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and also 2af

abstract marsh May 30, 2024, 11:20 AM

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im not doing unassigned although i had quite sum of em

twin bay May 30, 2024, 11:20 AM

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New U+010 and U+0100 recipes lol
[Mr. U+00](#1226511876733669436 message)

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I was trying to find a way to increment U+00

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Do any of you have an easy U+01 from U+00?

chilly fulcrum May 30, 2024, 11:22 AM

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U+00 itself is quite convoluted isnt it

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at least mine is

twin bay May 30, 2024, 11:22 AM

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Not really

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Don't you have my Mr. route?

chilly fulcrum May 30, 2024, 11:22 AM

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idk i dont have Mr. U+00 or a clean U+00.... lmao but this is much cleaner for all of them if it works

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no i dont think i do

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yeah

abstract marsh May 30, 2024, 11:23 AM

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twin bay Do any of you have an easy U+01 from U+00?

nope...

chilly fulcrum May 30, 2024, 11:23 AM

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Mr. U + U+0 = Mr. U+0 is closest i have

twin bay May 30, 2024, 11:23 AM

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#1226511876733669436 message

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Fairly simple U+02 at least
[Baby U+01](#1206592567622373446 message)
[U+0](#1226511876733669436 message)

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Nice U+01

chilly fulcrum May 30, 2024, 11:27 AM

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U+

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still .u + Plus right

twin bay May 30, 2024, 11:28 AM

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Yep

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Or Unicode + Upiano lol

abstract marsh May 30, 2024, 11:28 AM

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whaat do you mean by FrEE

chilly fulcrum May 30, 2024, 11:28 AM

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Free

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well 29f not working

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just getting the usual

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Omega symbol when combined with anything hinting to greek

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and 29bf otherwise

abstract marsh May 30, 2024, 11:30 AM

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man i shouldnt have used Asciifont tools, its scary how random it sent me to

chilly fulcrum May 30, 2024, 11:30 AM

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damn

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is that an issue clogging up ur search

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do you have like all from 0

abstract marsh May 30, 2024, 11:30 AM

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from 0?

chilly fulcrum May 30, 2024, 11:30 AM

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yeah

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Asciifont 0

abstract marsh May 30, 2024, 11:30 AM

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all stuff [number] number start from 10 or 11

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not bothered enough to try lower cuz i didnt have it

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shit it work

chilly fulcrum May 30, 2024, 11:32 AM

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w

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im trying to get below unicode 10

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although idk how youd do it with string build thats not quite normal

abstract marsh May 30, 2024, 11:34 AM

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"⋅"
"{22C5}"

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oh yeah that dot is the one you had nightmare one

chilly fulcrum May 30, 2024, 11:35 AM

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#ascii alr

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seems fair

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i can do that

abstract marsh May 30, 2024, 11:35 AM

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"⋅"
"{22C5}"

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oh yeah it doesnt work on unicode...

chilly fulcrum May 30, 2024, 11:37 AM

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yeah no worky

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do you have unifont 10

abstract marsh May 30, 2024, 11:40 AM

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nope,
this is interesting

chilly fulcrum May 30, 2024, 11:41 AM

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i havent been able to transfer much numbers like that

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i followed it for aksara

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but in general its not great on others to get the 10 on it

abstract marsh May 30, 2024, 11:43 AM

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mmm if i limit myself to not use the number, could be possible but challenging

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will try my best to minimize that part as well from now on then

chilly fulcrum May 30, 2024, 11:43 AM

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like X unicode + unicode 10 works sometimes but if you build up enough y unicode 10 you can like try them all and do y unicode 10 + x unicode

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and hopefully one will give x unicode 10

abstract marsh May 30, 2024, 11:49 AM

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abstract marsh "⋅" "{22C5}"

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sick

twin bay May 30, 2024, 11:59 AM

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abstract marsh "⋅" "{22C5}"

"-" recipe is not correct, unless that is some other "."
"." + Hyphen = "."

lethal nymph May 30, 2024, 12:00 PM

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it is indeed some other "."

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22c5 iirc

twin bay May 30, 2024, 12:00 PM

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Seems important to mention 😶

abstract marsh May 30, 2024, 12:01 PM

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abstract marsh "⋅" "{22C5}"

3 message below the image i did mention it, i guess i should swap the important part

twin bay May 30, 2024, 12:01 PM

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Oh, you did

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No more "fromcharcode" or "prepend" for "-".
[46-step U+002d](#1206592567622373446 message)

chilly fulcrum May 30, 2024, 12:16 PM

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and we have good parenthesis and bracket

twin bay May 30, 2024, 12:23 PM

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Indeed, there is one adjacent to Apostrophe seed

chilly fulcrum May 30, 2024, 12:24 PM

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Hmm I forgor

twin bay May 30, 2024, 12:24 PM

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Actually, there are several

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Two + Quotation Mark is the best for this "-" route, I believe

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Actually no, it's probably Syntax + Lake, given that we have to get Unicode for U+002D

chilly fulcrum May 30, 2024, 12:31 PM

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System from hexadecimal?

final sable May 30, 2024, 12:41 PM

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right

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Greek unicode is going DOWN

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I’m this close

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wish me luck lol

abstract marsh May 30, 2024, 12:43 PM

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final sable Greek unicode is going DOWN

me hearing song lyric its going Down

chilly fulcrum May 30, 2024, 12:45 PM

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how close are you

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also

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5 letter

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Chromatic

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what is it

abstract marsh May 30, 2024, 1:05 PM

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i wonder what kind of tech should i get to obtain unicode of U+1793

chilly fulcrum May 30, 2024, 1:08 PM

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What you’ve been trying thus far is good

#Unicode

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