Unicode + Unicode Phonetic
#Unicode
dusky lynx
abstract marsh
another fun fact
it is possible in less than 56 step ( using D's recipes )
( and still not optimized cuz i just mash stuff together again )
zenith sluice
@primal maple how do i get The Plural?
primal maple
<@794883683995615232> how do i get The Plural?
why ask me?
zenith sluice
why ask me?
because youre online
primal maple
...
slender rock
trail wagon
finally kick off the brackets
can you try getting Osage Unicode or Unicode Osage ;-;
slender rock
should be same method, could try
abstract marsh
U+264A dead
gl
trail wagon
surprised how i was the first person to get U+2643 (in which the first discovery tag was probably a visual glitch i thought)
spring minnow
who is Jimmy Roberts
trail wagon
who is Jimmy Roberts
is that a person editing in the spreadsheet?
spring minnow
they requested edit access
abstract marsh
what the bloody hell happened here
( doesnt have script helper in chrome save )
candid trellis
it's escaping the box
abstract marsh
i could do more apparently
but i wonder is that upperscript plus tho?
cuz its too small
slender rock
can you try getting Osage Unicode or Unicode Osage ;-;
can't get to mrs. Osage Unicode
by woman/gender swap/female step
chilly fulcrum
unlucky - does things like “delete the dots” (there’s sooo many variants of that) work on the hashtagged version
abstract marsh
oh well try Possessive plural then change his gender
tepid blaze
but i wonder is that upperscript plus tho?
that: ๋? if im not wrong its Thai Character Mai Chattawa (and if im also not wrong the first person that got it was:#recipe-talk message and the visual lineage have a error since its not thai unicode character that give it but thai unicode )
hidden blade
Has anyone found +0 legitimately yet?
wasn't sure if I missed something ;-; I know we have U+0 wasn't sure if we ever found +0 sorry probably stupid question
abstract marsh
that: ` ๋`? if im not wrong its Thai Character Mai Chattawa (and if im also not ...
ah yes it indeed is found from Thai Unifont stuff i had, that is the true name of the unicode i guess?
but why it can increment itself until the shown in images
tepid blaze
ah yes it indeed is found from Thai Unifont stuff i had, that is the true name o...
idk about that its strange, but it can
abstract marsh
another fun fact
it is possible in less than 56 step ( using D's recipes )
( and...
i think you might want to know this... in reality i havent really checked wether the path has missing recipe or not, but this is possible
abstract marsh
idk about that its strange, but it can
maxed at 7 character though... more than that it gave the ��������������� stuff
tepid blaze
maxed at 7 character though... more than that it gave the ��������������� stuff
yep it hit almost the max 20 token at 7
graceful marsh
You can add one more token
abstract marsh
because <s> exist we usually dont count them cuz its not in element
tepid blaze
You can add one more token
yeah but these things take 3 token so you cant add one more of these, that what i was saying even if was not very clear
abstract marsh
the fact it took 3 token is already crazy
graceful marsh
Yeah, but that also means I can add a relatively arbitrary word to it
abstract marsh
i think we might want to find most tokens in one character bounty...
if 3 token for one character exist... then there might be one that need more!! the potential is real
tepid blaze
i think we might want to find most tokens in one character bounty...
that would actually be interesting to do
graceful marsh
🁀 takes up 4
What you're looking for really is the most non-compressible number, but all Unicode values fit in 4 tokens
primal maple
What you're looking for really is the most non-compressible number, but all Unic...
incl. U+10FFFF?
graceful marsh
Bad example I think
That repeated F string can be represented singularly
abstract marsh
interesting just <space> can reach 319 character...
graceful marsh
Alright, it can't, point still stands
primal maple
Bad example I think
That repeated F string can be represented singularly
U+10FDBC
or smth idk
tepid blaze
U+10FDBC
or smth idk
4 token
primal maple
hmmm
abstract marsh
checking several unicode... seems like most of them gives 4 token
primal maple
checking several unicode... seems like most of them gives 4 token
does a single one have 5 token?
abstract marsh
i havent sorted all of them
primal maple
Deseret Letters are out
primal maple
i havent sorted all of them
what?
why do you need to sort them?
theyre already in order
abstract marsh
because theres text copied like U+stuff
primal maple
because theres text copied like U+stuff
????
i just used a random unicode generator
why is there a missing character?
abstract marsh
wut.... idk? also sorted em with tools, sooo 4 token all of the sample i took U+EFF80 - U+EFFFF
graceful marsh
Here
There's 256 tokens to represent the Unicode strings, so at 4 tokens you already have (256^4) 4294967296 possible permutations, more than enough to cover every Unicode
primal maple
hold on wut
its not a multiple of 4 + 1 anymore
my guess is a C or something got generated
chilly fulcrum
whats the deal with 1967
chilly fulcrum
oh
graceful marsh
Well some characters are (falsely) "UTF-24" encoded, so not all are 4 tokens
primal maple
Well some characters are (falsely) "UTF-24" encoded, so not all are 4 tokens
yep
found it
this thing is a single token
graceful marsh
Yeah
chilly fulcrum
What’s the deal with utf 24
abstract marsh
Here
There's 256 tokens to represent the Unicode strings, so at 4 tokens you al...
impressive amount...
primal maple
anyone have any idea what this 0y unicode is?
0y Ѹ
hmm...
its in CJK compatibility or smth i think
and what is this?
lemme check
oh ok its ethiopic
graceful marsh
What
abstract marsh
oh well that aint gonna be a fun thing for sure
abstract marsh
0.5 tokens?
they probably meant it as... oh look i can store �� in one token, so it definitely is 0.5 token
cool
primal maple
wait wut?
hmm....
comparing FFFD (�) and FFFC ()
FFFD is def 0.5 tokens
strange
abstract marsh
less than 0.5 tokens but more than 0.34 tokens for sure
while FFFC is more than 0.5 tokens.... quite the differences right there
interesting
primal maple
less than 0.5 tokens but more than 0.34 tokens for sure
while FFFC is more than ...
hmmm
so FFFD (�) can be anything from 0.35 tokens to 0.5 tokens and function identically
and we have no way of knowing the exact value...
well to be fair a is also technically 0.35-0.5 tokens
abstract marsh
u counted space there...
chilly fulcrum
so is this like the whole half a press thing in super Mario 64
primal maple
u counted space there...
chilly fulcrum
where they say that they get some stars in half an A press
graceful marsh
What
tepid blaze
we could also say that for most letter, and also specific words containing a lot of letter but being only 1 token 💀
abstract marsh
XD why am i doing this
chilly fulcrum
introducing: the half character
sick of 31 character limit?
do not worry new tech just dropped allowing you to create 30.5 character elements
abstract marsh
"that is insane tech you guys had" some random user probs
regal fulcrum
they probably meant it as... oh look i can store �� in one token, so it definit...
Thats not how tokens work
Tokens are either a bit of code or a string of characters
regal fulcrum
+1 would be cool as well
If we don't have it yet
Waiiiit
Can an item start with +
Since it's an operator in the recipe
graceful marsh
Oh Shiemi, your time to shine
regal fulcrum
O oki
lethal nymph
i'm also trying to get -0 but it's just as hard
vivid canyon
[+alphabet by Shiemi](#1214815916957761586 message)
abstract marsh
Tokens are either a bit of code or a string of characters
i see, mb mb for thinking it with dumb explanation
but that explain why some character took 4 token
lethal nymph
lol i found an alt route for U+0 instead
probably not easier than the current one though
abstract marsh
probably not easier than the current one though
nice, that will be second problem to know...
slender rock
oh well try Possessive plural then change his gender
abstract marsh
idk wether i should be happy or sad
slender rock
wait....
abstract marsh
oh well i misremembered too
plural possessive eh
lethal nymph
if only the Mrs. just removed the quotes
slender rock
and actually someone got the word Osage before me and it actually CAN merge with batak unicode or scripts
abstract marsh
now try with unifont
slender rock
let me have my FD on Oriya and probably try it
regal fulcrum
i see, mb mb for thinking it with dumb explanation
but that explain why some cha...
Nw!!
Dont feel dumb
You know more than 99.99% of the people who played this game
hidden blade
😭
I got +0 in curly quotes that's as close as I've been able to get 🫠 Oh and Mrs. +0 and Mr. +0 lmao
slender rock
working on Chorasmian Unicode but unsuccessful
hidden blade
this is the exact opposite of what I wanted 🫠
twin bay
Nice find
twin bay
😦
graceful marsh
This is a good emoji
cedar cloak
this is the exact opposite of what I wanted 🫠
i got a recipe for +0 but it uses u+0 as one of the recipes 😭
hidden blade
i got a recipe for +0 but it uses u+0 as one of the recipes 😭
I have u+0
cedar cloak
i have the thing at home i'll check but there really isn't a reason to get +0 unless you need u+0
hidden blade
i have the thing at home i'll check but there really isn't a reason to get +0 un...
I know, I just like having things ;-;
abstract marsh
You know more than 99.99% of the people who played this game
more than 60% for sure
but 99.99% is not me
chilly fulcrum
how -0?
hidden blade
close enough ;-; I give up for now
chilly fulcrum
ms. +0 was that explicitly from a Ms. Prompt - I find getting Ms rare otherwise
hidden blade
ms. +0 was that explicitly from a Ms. Prompt - I find getting Ms rare otherwise
yes “+0” + Ms. ++ gave me Ms. +0
😭
chilly fulcrum
da heq is that - bitwise left shift operator or something
I’m always curious - what was the recipe there
hidden blade
I’m always curious - what was the recipe there
graceful marsh
It's a dead stickman!
hidden blade
It's a dead stickman!
thank you, that makes me slightly less sad lol
graceful marsh
Glad to be of service
hidden blade
things have somehow devolved rather quickly into this mess
hidden blade
fml
chilly fulcrum
what worked for ++0 that didnt work for +0?
hidden blade
what worked for ++0 that didnt work for +0?
++0 was built with regular quotes and I was able to hashtag it but the only way I've found to build +0 is with curly quotes and no matter what I try it won't be hashtagged
chilly fulcrum
i mean thats just my normal experience - i throw all 20 hashtagging tools i have at it and it says no
probably worth getting some more - heres a pic of everything that comes up whan searching "hashtag" although most of these are not tools they are just stuff that hashtag didnt work on etc etc
Hashtag The Hashtag The has comes up clutch on more than one occasion tho
untold crystal
Somebody found it before me and didn't post it
chilly fulcrum
am i stupid or does searching for U+++1 on discord just not give a single lineage
untold crystal
I'm trying to make it but I threw all kind of stuff I used in it from "AWWM" (with long lineages). I'm trying to shorten it now
untold crystal
So, I have a problem. I'm the lineage tree is becoming too huge and I don't have time right now to make it all (I can't even see the ending yet)
I'll try tomorrow to make something more resonable
graceful marsh
Auriculata, Zh and Jackieburchi in one image and we haven't left 7 generations
This will be the tree to end all trees
trail wagon
<@1005770533683593296> Got it
Anyhing out of it?
untold crystal
I will not make that. If I don't manage to shorten it I will just give up
trail wagon
Auriculata, Zh and Jackieburchi in one image and we haven't left 7 generations
...
also hi laurasia
graceful marsh
I will not make that. If I don't manage to shorten it I will just give up
If push comes to shove I might ask if I could have your save so I can write the full lineage down on notepad, at least
Also hello SLC
trail wagon
god actually getting osage letters from Osage Unicode is so hard
feels like a dead end
untold crystal
If push comes to shove I might ask if I could have your save so I can write the ...
I simplified it a bit but it still needs work. No more Jackieburchi
chilly fulcrum
I mean put it into the ask for word we will optimise if you’d like
then you’ll get like a bunch of people on it simultaneously
graceful marsh
Need a path first before that though
chilly fulcrum
Where path for U+++1 and all the other U++1/0 etc etc
I ran discord search but either am stupid or searched the wrong thing
it has loads of mentions but no paths that I could see
graceful marsh
Unicode Guide in pins
chilly fulcrum
the alphabetical order doesn’t align to make it from scratch - ok
graceful marsh
https://docs.google.com/document/d/124uuQb3icxH_D-qP8N934AKf4aJZx4MQpmPdz00siPk/edit?usp=sharing
This one
chilly fulcrum
yes I always have that open I think I just somehow forgot that that had it
untold crystal
Finished it. Here is the hashtag ++zero #1206592567622373446 message
graceful marsh
Also I've just realised we should probably submit an optimised String.fromcharcode to the sheet
graceful marsh
There is no need for that much quote alphabet for it
untold crystal
I'm sure you can figure out the rest. See you tomorrow
graceful marsh
Good night, and thanks
chilly fulcrum
seems doable if I can get .hashtag
I might have something similar
ah dang nvm i dont
U+++1 yeah i must have got sidetracked from doing it earlier - i had all the ingredients but never made it
chilly fulcrum
damn i dont have a single one of those ingredients - 2 letter sheet time
untold crystal
It was the only thing that worked for my "zh" (curly)
thin warren
interesting
untold crystal
I've also now edited the post to include the link to hashtag the ++zero
chilly fulcrum
i think what i was experiencing with trying to get Remove Dot is probably similar to what you guys had trying to hash and unquote +0 lul
cedar cloak
Somebody found it before me and didn't post it
yeah that's how we know it was used for u+0
to hack an element in and for it to not be dead it has to be found first
desert bramble
Finished it. Here is the hashtag ++zero https://discord.com/channels/1203527044...
Does +0 combine with anything
slender rock
Anyhing out of it?
tried A-Z and some randoms, but no osage letters out
vivid canyon
Removes in general seem better than Deletes
chilly fulcrum
im trying to get remove dot
removedot about 30 different ways
but no remove dot
i got FD on remove dots tho
someone else already got removedots and gave up
or Delete One (stuff) - i got Delete One so im just trying to see if i can add a tilde to the end
to act as something to tell it yo you should put something here
tribal copper
Can anyone help me make sinhala unicode
chilly fulcrum
I can do my very best
Do you have context on Sinhala? like what it means, where it’s used, etc etc
primal maple
Do you have context on Sinhala? like what it means, where it’s used, etc etc
language of Sri Lanka
chilly fulcrum
@tribal copper Sinhala + Ethiopic Unicode (Ethiopic Unicode is in bot iirc)
primal maple
Tbh can you just tell me how to get ඩඞ
untold crystal
Here is a simplified version of +0 this is the best that I can do
primal maple
lol
you have to :/
abstract marsh
Here is a simplified version of +0 this is the best that I can do
damm they got 3 generations this time
dusky lynx
Here is a simplified version of +0 this is the best that I can do
how to get swap genders?
tribal copper
Im not
untold crystal
It's a long lineage but you don't need it anymore for this
graceful marsh
C'est in the bot
Found on the 14th, so happily before new submissions were stopped
regal fulcrum
Oh my god they know
trail wagon
Oh my god they know
they know the beyond english thread and the discord we are so winning
wooden maple
Recipe for U+00?
wooden maple
U+00
Um ok but can I get a bigger lineage haveU+0 but how in the freak do you get Cyrillic To Unicode Converter
weak mural
.
wooden maple
Nvm also need U+0
weak mural
Nvm also need U+0
U+0
wooden maple
Cyrillic Alphabet, Cyrillic Unicode
Ok what about cyrillic to unicode converter
weak mural
wooden maple
Arabic Unicode And Convert To Unicode Lineage?
weak mural
Arabic Unicode And Convert To Unicode Lineage?
Arabic Unicode is not needed
wooden maple
Arabic Unicode is not needed
Oh wait. Ok that's true so I just need convert to unicode
weak mural
Arabic Unicode And Convert To Unicode Lineage?
wooden maple
What's thenvm
weak mural
wooden maple
U can shorten it by just doing Mr. Convert To Unicode + Remove The Mr.
vivid canyon
Remove The Mr. isn't really a short recipe tho is it?
wooden maple
Remove The Mr. isn't really a short recipe tho is it?
PM plug your right but I happened to have it so I just used it
Dude wtf was that autocorrect
narrow pollen
chilly fulcrum
wh
it triggered the repeating
sometimes if you breathe wrong it triggers
like “Mr remove Mr” + “tt” = Mr. Remove Mr. Remove Mr. Remove Mr. Remove
chilly fulcrum
recipe for \e/? U+ sheet seems to assume you have it and i cant find a recipe on the discord search
ah
i see
forbidden knowledge
i guess i should also make sure to search for \alphabet/ instead of only \e/ - because for whatever reason inside of the backtick code structure discord must just ignore it
even tho \e/ is in the message discord is like nuh uh
wooden maple
.
junior gust
lol
abstract marsh
i thought i was doing something good, then realized it was U+00xxx
neat haven
lowercase z (idk if this was found yet)
abstract marsh
im trying to get thai unicode stuff... but idk how to properly arrange it... oh welp
abstract marsh
้
hmm this works huh...
abstract marsh
้
copy above if u wanna check
U+0E49 or Thai Character Mai Tho
U+0E5E
U+0E5F
abstract marsh
oh well imma just do my way without documenting
abstract marsh
U+005c found
abstract marsh
ah right.. i had limited tools you see... so i had to improvise
some are just... the usual
i just realized i skipped the whole U+002x
oh nvm i didnt
chilly fulcrum
i still only have U+0000 and U+0020 i think on that front
U+0000 wont increment for me
abstract marsh
using U+++1 ....
chilly fulcrum
yeah wait hang on i was doing it wrong
abstract marsh
sure
chilly fulcrum
i forgot i wasnt actually trying what i was meant to
abstract marsh
imma continue hunting this thai unicode that i dont know how many i should...
chilly fulcrum
yeah ok - i always broke into the letter land with the "..u-" strat
abstract marsh
U+006A ded
i need help?
chilly fulcrum
what did u do to get the letters on board - just like U+057 + U+++c?
if so that makes perfect sense
ok i will try
i dont have thai unicode tho
abstract marsh
what did u do to get the letters on board - just like U+057 + U+++c?
what? im not catching up
abstract marsh
i dont have thai unicode tho
it is in the bot
i thought going it simpler first
unless some hard unicode was refusing to appear, then i will use last resort ( Thai unifont ) variants
chilly fulcrum
oh i was asking how you got into the letters
since incrementing usually wont get you there and perviously id been using "..u-" strat
abstract marsh
U+005b + U+++1 = U+005c
if thats what u mean?
abstract marsh
i see, let me see
chilly fulcrum
damn i got Unicode Polish Word
hair will turn grey before i drop the Word off the end tho
abstract marsh
from
U+0000
increment using U+++1 until U+000f
then ( U+++10 is in the discord )
U+++10 + U+0000 = U+0010
increment using U+++1 until U+002f
U+++10 + U+0020 = U+0030
increment using U+++1 until U+0059
U+0059 + U+0059 = U+005A
increment using U+++1 until U+006A
uh this mean i gotta write how the journey goes lol
chilly fulcrum
oh ok i didnt think it actually went to u+000f
i would have thought it would go U+0009 -> U+0010
abstract marsh
from
U+0000
increment using U+++1 until U+000f
then ( U+++10 is in the discord )...
i gotta use this message as placeholder of how i do it
actually nvm i gonna write it in my own spreadsheet
chilly fulcrum
i got U+++11 but not 10 somehow
abstract marsh
U+0000 until U+0089 confirmed alive
U+008A ded, i cant continue my journey
neat haven
welp
abstract marsh
yeah working again imma continue incrementing
stuck at U+008A XD
why is it always the A...
chilly fulcrum
how did you get past the blockage at U+006c
also U+005f + U+++1 = U+0061
skips 0060
abstract marsh
ah right
U+++10 + U+0050 = U+0060
what happened to U+006c?
U+006A + U+006A = U+006b
then increment with U+++1
abstract marsh
how did you get past the blockage at U+006c
probably i discover it a little... late here it is revived
neat haven
yet again
abstract marsh
impressive
neat haven
honestly was pretty easy
abstract marsh
yeah i was only using U+++1 thats why i got stuck very often
abstract marsh
refresh the web
chilly fulcrum
honestly was pretty easy
which strat did you use? was it the same for both?
chilly fulcrum
i used "..u-" for u+006a and it fought me every step of the way
abstract marsh
ah i see
neat haven
u+0000 + u+8a for u+008a
chilly fulcrum
right - how u+7a and that, is there a way to force correct caps
neat haven
like how to get u+7a or
chilly fulcrum
sure
ive got some similar things but if theres a onsistent way id like to know
also damn the increment skips U+007d
abstract marsh
o nice info to have... if i found it in console but not in board... does it count as revived?
neat haven
if it is properly cased in console then it counts
abstract marsh
thx! imma try em if i got locked again
neat haven
no problem
chilly fulcrum
okay - and when U+1 stops incrementing do i just try random stuff or is there a consistent way to bypass
chilly fulcrum
e.g. at U+29 U+1 doesnt increment
of course its easy to get past but not necessarily consistently the next number
adding something larger sure easy
neat haven
i think adding something larger is the only thing i know
neat haven
that's how i got 2a
neat haven
you could say that
abstract marsh
thanks
chilly fulcrum
so you must have had U+7a lowercase already?
abstract marsh
lol no? im still checking the U+a0
chilly fulcrum
no not talking to u sorry
abstract marsh
np
neat haven
so you must have had U+7a lowercase already?
sorry for late response: u+7A isn't dead
i don't have u+7a lowercase
neat haven
it gives u+007a in the console
abstract marsh
turns out i can do fine with U+100xx with Thai Unifont
imma take rest
abstract marsh
agreed, i dont want to do 200+ element just for that
chilly fulcrum
with the tools i have "u+a0" was easy enough but i suck at unquoting
abstract marsh
try simpler tool first...
neat haven
way shorter way for "u++a2"
neat haven
am i missing something
hashtag???
chilly fulcrum
dont get it im confused is it hard or not am i being trolled (sorry im not good with catching on sometimes)
slender rock
prepend hashtag? delete quotation marks?
neat haven
okay there are 2 ways:
- combine with elements containing the word hashtag onto it, then try to remove the hashtag
- combine the element with letters inside the element (e.g.
U+"u+a0"might work because u is in u+a0)
the other ones i don't know
or don't exist
abstract marsh
i got Mr. U+A ( alive somehow )
but idk how to make it Mr. U+A0 lol🤣
thin warren
chilly fulcrum
while others go straight to that first try (no idea why or how)
but anyway "u+a0" refuses to be hashtagged
and un hashtagging is just as hard as un quoting
thin warren
it is very inconsistent and sometimes impossible to put a hashtag on a quoted element with a plus
abstract marsh
o nice now i gotta find 4 element im missing
slender rock
"u-a0" + u+0 ?
chilly fulcrum
so clearly the obvious hashtag method was not used
thin warren
doesnt work
thin warren
oh you mean both not in quotes
chilly fulcrum
U+0 no worky
thin warren
"u-a0" + u+0 ?
tried it doesnt work
chilly fulcrum
first thing i tried
thin warren
me as well
chilly fulcrum
so then what
slender rock
thanks.
chilly fulcrum
when all the hashtags dont work
i mean you didnt try them all
because i keep getting FD
ah well i got it #u-a0
thin warren
yeah bc putting hashtags on quoted elements with a + is so inconsistent and sometimes impossible that i just never try
primal maple
||weird||
neat haven
ohh
thin warren
not that
chilly fulcrum
um
thin warren
take it out of quotes and put a plus on at the same time
chilly fulcrum
.....
thin warren
now that will get it done
chilly fulcrum
sounds impossible
chilly fulcrum
taking it out of quotes is hard enough
putting a plus on at the same time????
absurd
slender rock
I remember some of ".u-xxxx" + u+0 will get u+xxxx directly
thin warren
like this one #1206592567622373446 message
chilly fulcrum
but when that no worky
thin warren
changed - to + and deleted quotes in one step
thin warren
when that no worky you take the quotes off first and then change to plus
slender rock
yes
thin warren
and if that no worky then you get on your knees and pray
thin warren
no you dont
chilly fulcrum
im not aware of another method
primal maple
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chilly fulcrum
theres also remove/delete the quotation marks
thin warren
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barcode lookin ass message
primal maple
barcode lookin ass message
lol
chilly fulcrum
true
thin warren
now make bubble wrap
neat haven
o spam
chilly fulcrum
but ive heard people say over and over unquoting is the easiest part but consistently that just isnt so! its by far the hardest part for me
chilly fulcrum
making "u+a0" was one of the harder short strings ive done so far and it fought me every step of the way but it only took 5 min
thin warren
o spam as in spamming o to make bubble wrap
||o||||o||||o||||o||||o||||o||||o||||o||||o||||o||||o||||o||||o||||o||||o||||o||||o||||o||
thin warren
tbf the way i unquoted it uses an element that i think out of all of us here rn only i have
chilly fulcrum
ok sure - but in general its fiendishly difficult
for me
why
its fairly normal for unquoting to take 5x longer than making the string itself
thin warren
||u-0 lineage||
abstract marsh
that... doesnt help
chilly fulcrum
well it might - maybe it will unquote for once
"u-a0" seems exceptionally stubborn
surely "u-a1" cannot be so bad
chilly fulcrum
very
abstract marsh
why it refuse to incremented
chilly fulcrum
it did delete the dash.....
abstract marsh
welp now thats dead
chilly fulcrum
candid trellis
Same with these then I presume?
abstract marsh
yes
candid trellis
wait theres a search thingy for that?
chilly fulcrum
odds of me unhashtagging this in 10 mins place bets
been going a few already but wont count it
; ; ****
why
abstract marsh
died
chilly fulcrum
best i got before 10 min was up
helpful (not)
woah
got it
nice! under an hour
only 21 minutes to unquote
maybe it is new pb
abstract marsh
nice
chilly fulcrum
delete the curly underscore
abstract marsh
Its alive!
chilly fulcrum
if i get Mathematical Operators Unicode then its exactly 30 so we good
.....close
(it does this every time oml with spacing why u do this)
lethal nymph
delete the curly underscore
it's a miracle that thing worked
i did not intend for it to be usable at all when making it
lethal nymph
🔢
chilly fulcrum
can with spaces please shove its 0% success rate somewhere where i cant see it
try to unquote challenge (impossible)
stahp
lethal nymph
try + curly "" + Mr./Mr. -/Mr. ~ + Remove The Mr.
chilly fulcrum
note: it is 29 characters
so making it longer is just not an option
so yeah i can put it in curly
lethal nymph
what is 29 characters
chilly fulcrum
thats the most likely option
i just didnt like my odds of getting Operators Unicode (2 words)
compared to adding just 1
lethal nymph
"the "/"the <" + Operators + Unicode + Delete The The
chilly fulcrum
do you recommend some ways to try and put Operators in quotes right away - like with "a-" strat
and
thin warren
or just do “mathematicaloperatorsunicode” and get a hashtag on it
chilly fulcrum
have already
and the hashtag wont go away
as usual
its just as hard as un quoting
thin warren
unplural
lethal nymph
Add Spaces
lethal nymph
or combine it with Mathematical Operators
chilly fulcrum
i mean pick my poison Unicode Operators or Mathematical Operators
add spaces still has 0% success rate
lethal nymph
😔
chilly fulcrum
you are welcome
but hashtags are actually just harder to remove than quotes because quotes you can at least most of the time hashtag them
and also
i dont have anything with > or < because the recipe in the unicode sheet is completely useless
it may as well be (placeholder for ingredient 1) + (placeholder for ingredient 2)
abstract marsh
i dont have anything with > or < because the recipe in the unicode sheet is comp...
oof
abstract marsh
mhm i havent tried
chilly fulcrum
but um nata do you have a good way to say just shove whole words into quotes and is that what youd recommend if i was building "Operators Unicode"
i mean
you sent recipe but pretend there wasnt one
lethal nymph
"the" + "0" + U+0020
lethal nymph
but um nata do you have a good way to say just shove whole words into quotes and...
that's what "the " and its equivalences do
thin warren
ded
chilly fulcrum
i followed the recipe you sent, didnt work, so i added U+0020 to "the Operators" and then added "unicode"
lethal nymph
add Unicode
chilly fulcrum
didnt work
thin warren
add Uni
lethal nymph
check console!
thin warren
then “code”
chilly fulcrum
ok brb ill get uni
thin warren
if that doesn’t work start adding numbers and shit
lethal nymph
or just add U then Unicode
thin warren
could try that aswell
lethal nymph
U) if that doesn't work
chilly fulcrum
U)
ok
that took about 1 minute to combine btw
and it spat that disappointment back
lethal nymph
normal Unicode?
lethal nymph
aaa
abstract marsh
Yunicode :v
chilly fulcrum
if im trying something weird odds are cause wat u said no worky
honestly
yunicode
not a bad idea
abstract marsh
well i had Yunifont too ;>
thin warren
“0the Operators U”
lethal nymph
horror
thin warren
that way the characters always go to the end
abstract marsh
woah i found something interesting
lethal nymph
if that doesn"% work just spell it with 'alphabet'
chilly fulcrum
lethal nymph
how the fuck is your luck so bad
chilly fulcrum
i mean i had to add lowercase unicode
lethal nymph
add the unquoted one
chilly fulcrum
but i think its cause you know things i dont - even if only subconsciously
tried
ill always try that first
do not worry
aka skill issue on my part
lethal nymph
yea just do "the Operators U" + 'n' + 'i' + 'c' + 'o' + 'd' + 'e'
chilly fulcrum
ok time to get 'alphabet'
abstract marsh
woah i found something interesting
turns out its a myanmar letter O
wth is it doing in here
lethal nymph
how do you still not have 'alphabet'
chilly fulcrum
because i didnt get it yet
lethal nymph
i've been persuading 😔
lethal nymph
you don't need all alphabets
abstract marsh
how do you still not have 'alphabet'
i have been here for month and i dont even have any 'alphabet' or full list of "alphabet"
lethal nymph
i literally only use "alphabet", curly, 'alphabet' and 「alphabet」
(and very rarely .alphabet)
chilly fulcrum
im going for 2 letters on all these eventually so
also
how am i going to spell it
into a dead element
i have this
chilly fulcrum
i mean i have it
in hashes
ni quotes
in curlies
in plural
in singular
in dead forms
abstract marsh
i just wanted to change it into 1002a
nvm i got it U+1002a until U+1002f alive
chilly fulcrum
good to know
lethal nymph
yea i'll try once i get home
i will call this "the rubiksmath phenomenon"
where everytime you try to make something, it becomes impossible
thin warren
nah this one is just insane
both the word operators and the word unicode hate having anything done to them
and now they are both in the same element
abstract marsh
so... myanmar vowel sign UU
U+1030
i might want to move into thai blocks unicode... let me increment abit
lethal nymph
nah this one is just insane
go ahead, make Unquote And Repeat 😔
thin warren
is that one difficult as well ?
lethal nymph
yes
abstract marsh
where everytime you try to make something, it becomes impossible
this phenomenon is just insane
chilly fulcrum
I made unquote and repeat - and got so close to Unquote and repeat 20 times
just so close
I got to like “unquote.and.re.peat-20.time”
but the extra dot
between re and peat
actually causes length issues
thin warren
go ahead, make `Unquote And Repeat` 😔
wait you guys didnt have that yet
?????????????
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOO
chilly fulcrum
it was very painful to make I think it took numerous hours
it refused the same way that this is now
only worked in the end from pure willpower
iirc nata got it easily though
thin warren
I made unquote and repeat - and got *so* close to Unquote and repeat 20 times
u mean like this
chilly fulcrum
why you don’t explain what you are doing
thin warren
LMAO
chilly fulcrum
I’d much prefer if you did
thin warren
lineage drop in the morning
chilly fulcrum
I’m not interested in that
I’m interested in what you were doing and why which I would honestly much prefer running commentary on - if you have to dm me you have to dm me
but best I got was “unquote.and.re.peat-20.time” or something
you know the other day it took me 3 hours to get from Add Space
To Add Spaces
thin warren
ill dm you when i wake up (if i dont forget)
chilly fulcrum
did you get anything like what I did
what was the structure of it
I hated it gobbling up letters and adding dots for no reason
thin warren
"unquote.and.repeat.20.times" + Prepend Hashtag = #unquote.and.repeat.20.times
#unquote.and.repeat.20.times + Unquote And Repeat = Unquote And Repeat 20 Times
thin warren
#1215495041049436170 message
chilly fulcrum
I did avoid that once but it stopped being fruitful
thin warren
this is virtually the first half of the lineage
chilly fulcrum
yeah but how do you know to add d01
There’s millions of combinations there
each one would take a day
thin warren
"01" makes it so that the letters combine more consistently and then adding "..d" basically just turns the games brain off and lets you combine whatever the hell you want a lot of the time
chilly fulcrum
and why did it unhash you when adding a part of the name
I’m 0/300 on that at least
it just never works
thin warren
idk
chilly fulcrum
it always is something dumb like Delete The Letter I that works
thin warren
i had run through a couple unhashtagging tools and none worked so i plugged in unquote and repeat and it worked
chilly fulcrum
what unhashtaghing tools
thin warren
delete the hyphen(s), unplural, remove the hashtag(s), delete first
chilly fulcrum
to me adding a part of the text is a tool (I’ve been told it works sometimes)
thin warren
normally after i get through those i start trying elsewhere
chilly fulcrum
is it just random
or is there backups
I need more removes too - i don’t quite know what I’m misssing to let me get whatever removes I want
I can get whatever deletes basically
thin warren
the way you get more removes is so stupid
chilly fulcrum
but my removes don’t play the same game
thin warren
id honestly just look for the recipes bc the thing you need is pretty unreasonable to stumble on
chilly fulcrum
if you add two deletes often you get another one
ain’t so for removes
ok but what if I want to make more
like you know not every remove has a recipe around
I will say I got FD on Remove Dots
someone got to removedots and gave up
thin warren
ive tried making remove stuff its just annoying
chilly fulcrum
yet you have loads of them
thin warren
i just let other people figure them out and then yoink their recipes
chilly fulcrum
I have maybe 10 total
I was wanting Remove The ~
To try get it to act like placeholder
thin warren
that would be extremely difficult
chilly fulcrum
cause Delete The + The (something) very often works
but deletes play so nice I don’t actually have many of those The stuff
but okay well it’s true there is many many different prepends you can make
but wait
You’re playing with the length limit
“..d01unquote.and.repeat.20.times” is way over the limit
so you’d have to cut off at some point
which should really just about converge you with what I had
thin warren
correct that is way over the limit, however i knew that "unquote.and.repeat.20.times" is 29 characters so i was allowed to have the 1 the entire time, and could have as much of that as needed up until i added the final word on. also the double periods almost always just disappear after adding enough stuff
chilly fulcrum
that’s true they do go away and that’s annoying but if you get the 1 there (however that’s achieved) then it’s not an issue
thin warren
i also knew i was going to have to get rid of the d at the front in order to get the 20 on at the back, so that took care of another
and then i just took both numbers off before adding the last word
chilly fulcrum
seems pretty smart - the thinking ahead I definitely need to learn from
hidden blade
borb is friend
abstract marsh
since i can get U+00f0 without using U+a0
oh well idk actually :v still wondering what's the alternate way that doesnt require alot of tools to get U+00a0
abstract marsh
looks convincing
letme check the unicode...
oof
spice lark
ḯ
ancient basin
how do i get "-" again with the quotations?
chilly fulcrum
i have "--" but not "-"
abstract marsh
uhh well
U+0000 to U+009f was all alive now ( cuz i travelled one by one, so i know )
u can increment em more easily ( no more depending on quotes )
imma skip the journey to U+00f0 until theres a better recipe for u+a0 to get u+00a0
chilly fulcrum
do you have u-0?
abstract marsh
no lol
i misread
my save has limited element about modifier
so i cope with it
if someone's willing to check if its alive from u+00a0 to u+00f0
im more than happy :>
chilly fulcrum
my best idea was there was paper sizes
A4 is standard
but ai is stupid
IRL, A4+A4=A3
but ai says no thats A5 cause sequence completing
abstract marsh
yes anything with number is incrementing problem for ai
abstract marsh
oh nice alt recipe i might try
chilly fulcrum
looks like "u" + full stop + hyphen + something to do with 0
then + U
but thats a nice one
no quotes needed
abstract marsh
no quotes needed
yeah it is nice
abstract marsh
wow im degrading from U+00f6 to u+00e1
interesting
now u+00c6 .. u+00c0
U+2AF6
TRIPLE COLON OPERATOR
sorry caps its copied
sage wren
i too scream triple colon operator at an innocent passerby
abstract marsh
wow im degrading from U+00f6 to u+00e1
interesting
now u+00c6 .. u+00c0
i am truly amazed about how im going circling with this
lets hope i can reach u+00a0 with this randomness
abstract marsh
im trying to get u+00f7 got it
and it doesnt want to
nor does it want to get into u+00fd
if U+++1 doesnt work i try other method
i went too far
U+03b5
U+0006 + U+00fc = ⒜
interesting
U+00F0 + U+00f7 = þ
what happened in here
chilly fulcrum
have you tried every u+00xx on u+00f7?
abstract marsh
nope, trying to figure out u+00fd
abstract marsh
have you tried every u+00xx on u+00f7?
U+002b + U+00f7 = ⫮
oh well..
U+00f7 actually gave me alot of element which i think u guys already documented cuz its not FD? idk
but its interesting
some are in these...
other... is somewhere else
slender rock
we really need the collection feature for this, it is hell to manage 😂 pinned is not enough to do so
regal fulcrum
we really need the collection feature for this, it is hell to manage 😂 pinned i...
I will spend 3 hours on release sorting all characters LMAO
OH WAIT THIS IS GONNA MAKE MY SAVE SO MUCH HEAVIER
abstract marsh
having a collection feature would be nice indeed
neat haven
bruh what the hell is this???
abstract marsh
try with unifont or something unifont?
thin warren
do we have a way to decrement unicodes
abstract marsh
idk never seen it
ai sometimes just decrement it randomly tho
abstract marsh
if you guys have an idea for how it'd look/work
for me, i think its simple
with your folder method should be doable
neat haven
unifont didn't work
abstract marsh
sad
lethal nymph
for me, i think its simple
with your folder method should be doable
like just how i'm doing recent elements now?
but that won't handle a lot of collections
abstract marsh
idk really cuz i just beginning to grind this
its just like i need to change some element cuz incrementing skipped some U+00xx
abstract marsh
unifont didn't work
if it didnt work
i guess most of unifont related stuff wont work too
ancient unifont
.... unifont or unifont ....
thai unifont 10 (increment is possible )
abstract marsh
°?
neat haven
degree symbol
abstract marsh
cool
regal fulcrum
do we have a way to decrement unicodes
Does -1 work
Never tried tho and never seen it
Oooh you dont mean the codes do you
In rare cases Previous works
But very rare cases
thin warren
i mean like
going backwards like this
dont ask why prepend is there
is there like a U---1 ?
thin warren
cause i have U+++-1 but it doesnt work
abstract marsh
lets try making U---1 ?
thin warren
ive tried combining u- with hyphens and stuff and the game just really doesnt like multiple hyphens nextt to eachother
regal fulcrum
Maybe use the funny "..u-" we have been using?
chilly fulcrum
prepend u+0070 - what Strat let you shove in the prepend there or was it just the 1 Strat again
abstract marsh
im back at grinding thai unicode again :v
imma use own spreadsheet to document it then screenshot it here once im done 😵💫
regal fulcrum
Prediction despite me being away and unable to test
"..u-" + U+002d = "..u--"
"..u--" + U+002d = "..u---"
"..u---" + "1" = "..u---1"
Then find a way to remove the quotes and the periods
Going through hashtag might work. But you'd also need the U to be capitalized
abstract marsh
"..u-" + U+002d = "..u--"
"..u--" + U+002d = "..u---"
"..u---" + "1" = "..u---1"
chance me getting that is low with my minimum unicode setup
regal fulcrum
Idek if we have lowercase U+002d
If we dont im afraid quantum entanglement fucked us up
abstract marsh
U+0000 to U+009f is all alive i have passed em all with only increment
regal fulcrum
Sometimes our way of incrementing unicode codes using lowercase "bugs" and goes into uppercase again and more than once those werent fd
Im afraid it's the cause of QE, if QE is real at all
Which, i have my doubts
Strong doubts but theres signs that make it possible
abstract marsh
oof, imma continue my quest then
abstract marsh
Thai Unicode + U+001d =
U+0E5D
what am i going to do with this? document it or not? cuz pinned spreadsheet didnt mention it
abstract marsh
lmao
neat haven
lowercase k with hook (U+0199)
chilly fulcrum
no idea how you know to make “4u++.” Like that’s so incredibly far removed from my understanding of what has any chance of working
regal fulcrum
Thai Unicode + U+001d =
U+0E5D
what am i going to do with this? document it or...
Theres a missing characters page for characters not in the sheets
abstract marsh
Theres a missing characters page for characters not in the sheets
mhm okay
rich roseBOT
tribal copper
How do you get U+
abstract marsh
check pinned first :>
thai numeric... pretty fun eh
Thai Unicode Conference
THAI CHARACTER ANGKHANKHU
U+0E5A
again caps from the source :v
hidden blade
anyone have U+005e that can send lineage real quick? I can't be bothered to mess with it myself right now lol ;-;
abstract marsh
yeah i skipped to U+0050 then U+0055
if u prefer quotes way... i dont have the tool
sad it had 005A though... u might want to take different way to get it if the unicode u aim was case sensitive for U+005A
hidden blade
yeah i skipped to U+0050 then U+0055
if u prefer quotes way... i dont have the t...
nah this is perfect thank you! ❤️
abstract marsh
alternate way entering thai numeric without U+00xx stuff
refer to original message : #1206592567622373446 message
abstract marsh
ŵ
U+0175
tropic yoke
how do you get U+0100?
regal fulcrum
It's an annoying one
abstract marsh
agreed... imma do the funny to get thai unicode
lets go Lmao
yup this method work as usual
slender rock
well it should
abstract marsh
i wonder how many would fall for that little differences on right side unicode... i might need to change the recipe
why tf would they make the difference just several pixel of lines...
slender rock
languages are awesome aren't it?
abstract marsh
yes ( laugh in suffer )
more progress than before nice
i just need to be careful reading it
ok i found out my problem
i cutted the 000f part
thats why i feel like something is missing in the image
chilly fulcrum
where you keeping that are you just copying the console line? just want to make sure I’m not missing some new tech that dropped to record recipes
abstract marsh
indeed im copying console line & paste it into my spreadsheet
chilly fulcrum
okay well I mean yeah fair I just wish that was easier because you still have to do a lot of it manually
and remove the quotes
chilly fulcrum
i dont understand the missing character sheet
abstract marsh
really...
lethal nymph
¯_(ツ)_/¯
chilly fulcrum
polish unicode isnt very interesting it just turns everything into the polish a
well i dont actually have polish unicode
but its The Polish Unicode
i cant drop the the
lethal nymph
dropping the the outside of quotes is extremely hard
abstract marsh
56/87 mhm throwing unicode to each other is good & bad idea :v
(changed my apporach)
abstract marsh
i love it how i need thai unicode 10 to continue this journey
not too bad, just bruh
abstract marsh
because i dont have next unicode, directly next unicode etc etc
chilly fulcrum
so whats stopping you this time? or rather before what were you doing when it wouldnt increment
abstract marsh
the one i didnt checklisted was kinda bothersome to get with just the tool i had
( i did this on seperate spreadsheet )
if you mean incrementing U+00xx
then im stuck at U+009f
cant procceed to U+00a0 without grinding 200-300 extra element
if U+++1 doesnt work, combine lower U+00xx with random U+00xx
@lethal nymph i think i got the idea
if the result of the recipe is within U+0000 to U+009f then save that recipe
and export it into clipboard/text file/ smth...
duplicate recipe or multiple recipe for one element wont be a problem i think...
lethal nymph
just made that
i'm too lazy to make an ui for this so
first run this
function getSave() {
return new Promise((resolve, reject) => {
const handleClick = HTMLElement.prototype.click;
HTMLElement.prototype.click = () => {}
const bodyObserver = new MutationObserver((mutations, observer) => {
for (const mutation of mutations) {
if (mutation.type !== "childList") continue;
const anchor = Array.from(mutation.addedNodes).find((node) => node.download === "infinitecraft.json");
if (anchor) return fetch(anchor.href).then(resolve);
}
});
bodyObserver.observe(document.body, { childList: true, subtree: true });
handleClick.call(document.querySelector(".setting[for=import-save] + .setting"));
setTimeout(() => {
bodyObserver.disconnect();
HTMLElement.prototype.click = handleClick;
reject("Timed out")
}, 1500);
});
}
getSave().then(x => x.json()).then(x => (window.save = x));
and then this
save.elements.filter(x => x.text.length === 1 && Math.min(Math.max(x.text.codePointAt(), 0x0000), 0x009f) === x.text.codePointAt()).map(x => save.recipes[x.text].map(r => `${r[0].text} + ${r[1].text} = ${x.text}`).join("\n")).join("\n\n");```the range is adjustable at the 0xXXXX part
abstract marsh
mhm i like it, thanks
tribal copper
Tho
primal maple
Nuh uh
you have to
im not helping you
i only check the spreadsheet for my own things
tribal copper
Ok?
And