do you have with spaces/ing
#Unicode
thin warren
chilly fulcrum
possibly?
looks like i only have deletes for spaces
ok brb let me unquote "prepend"
adding prepend did not work
sad face
lethal nymph
sad
chilly fulcrum
i dont suppose i have to build up those spacing tools?
the deletes are giving Nothing
well
delete the vowel came through
dont want to say i am getting the hang of it just yet i think i got lucky - the building up phase was remarkably uneventful
lethal nymph
just spamming all of your delete isn't an uncommon strat
chilly fulcrum
"..ou" (just seeing if i can get "..u" it without going to check the 2 letter sheet) seems resistant so far
thin warren
LATIN CAPITAL LETTER AE WITH ACUTE
chilly fulcrum
uni font is evolving
chilly fulcrum
I have a collection of “The Deleted (stuff)”
Nearly every delete I have produced one
when combined with “The Characters”
(when I was trying to get delete character on my own)
abstract marsh
uni font is evolving
mhm nice
lethal nymph
silliest strat ever
exotic monolith
does anyone have "the plural"
thin warren
plural + the hashtag
thin warren
"the" + hashtag
exotic monolith
ty
chilly fulcrum
indeed silly
wild knoll
🥵
rich roseBOT
chilly fulcrum
yeah
thin warren
#recipe-lookup
lethal nymph
#recipe-lookup..?
chilly fulcrum
why is there lineage for such things but not simple words
exotic monolith
@thin warren how to get ancient unifont
thin warren
#1206592567622373446 message
unifont + ancient greece
chilly fulcrum
"..ou" kicked my ass time to check the sheet for "iu" and admit defeat
cool now got "..u-" time to see what i can do
whats the deal with the "missing characters" sheet?
whats the deal with putting numbers in quotation marks - does that use put this ni quotation marks?
empty ice
"..e"?
thin warren
use “w” and just put a number into it
chilly fulcrum
mmm
i already tried
it is how i got "0" tho
the "w" eats it
oh maybe single digit
ah ok
"w1" + 5 = "w6", perhaps i need them all in quotes
"1" + "5" = "6"
ok then
"..u-0" + "1" = "..u-1" ok i guess i need to learn this huh
ok nice i have managed to get it
ok well ive got the character U+0167 in quotes
unquoting this might be a challenge
ooh i unquoted it but its now got a +1 on the end
dead
grrrr still i cant get it on its own
nvm
Hashtag The Hashtag The comes in clutch
U+0167:
my ocr finds not added yet
thorn pilot
U+017B: LATIN CAPITAL LETTER Z WITH DOT ABOVE; Polish Diacritic + Z
chilly fulcrum
It looks like the ai semiconsistently adds 10 or 100 or something to the code point when it prints a character out
untold crystal
¨ diaeresis 168 0xA8
chilly fulcrum
what does the 168 mean
untold crystal
168 is Decimal, 0xA8 is unicode hex
dusky lynx
¨ diaeresis 168 0xA8
how do u get double quotation and double quotation marks?
untold crystal
how do u get double quotation and double quotation marks?
I think now everything can be found by searching the discord . Backtick is here #1206592567622373446 message
exotic monolith
What is the recipe for mathematical Unicode
slender rock
abstract marsh
those are really interesting
oblique vigil
wait thats actually awesome that my emoji unicode discovery made it into the unicode guide
sweet stuff
exotic monolith
is this any good???
ancient basin
what is that
exotic monolith
idk but i made the whole alphabet for it
it likes to combine with .blank
anything that starts with .
or most stuff atleast
ancient basin
so it likes to combine with .alphabet? huh
ancient basin
interesting. what's the recipes ?
ancient basin
for the weird ~alphabet
exotic monolith
should i send a pic of a tree of just tell u a step by step
exotic monolith
ok
ancient basin
HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
exotic monolith
ancient basin
unicode 80.0 ?
ancient basin
how unicode 10.0?
exotic monolith
go to the unicode spreadsheet
go to pins in unicode and than unicode infinite craft guide
graceful marsh
HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Uh
exotic monolith
and than go to unicode 10.0
exotic monolith
just combine them with the ~alphabet
ancient basin
ye
exotic monolith
i just combine the a with ~x for example to get the x
ancient basin
epic
exotic monolith
if your gonna combine it with periods i would do it with two letter or more
ancient basin
this alphabet has weird interactions
"hello" + weird ~s = "hello world"
also doesn't mix with enquoted words a lot
exotic monolith
ye i noticed that
oblique vigil
what are yall using to document unicode?
I remember I was originally working on a site but got pretty busy a couple months ago
just curious what yall have been using for an alternative
ancient basin
we use google sheets if thats what you mean to keep track of what unicode characters we get
exotic monolith
slender rock
huh?
its in private area
abstract marsh
#1215495041049436170 message
if ur interested in smth like this... go ahead, works from Unicode 10...
bigger number tends to sways...
just keep the Thai Unicode 10 as increment if really needed
modest idol
U+0000 + U+20
oblique vigil
U+0000 + U+20
ah, and what about U+?
because I need U+ to make U+0000
nevermind got it
oblique vigil
just ran into the same issue, whats the recipe?
narrow pollen
just ran into the same issue, whats the recipe?
in the middle
oblique vigil
in the middle
thank you 🙏
slender rock
2B82E
should be the farest unicode found?
ancient basin
maybe
exotic monolith
cool
lepcha digit 6
u+1c46
unicode art batak has been op for me
recipe for unicode art batak= unicode art plus unicode batak
glacial horizon
Is there an efficient way of sharing U+ recipes because there are so many things I can put on the spreadsheet that require a FD U+ element and needing to make a tree for all of them feels very tedious, like there's gotta be a better way
slender rock
I am now using the "..u-" method, which mostly just concats the characters
holy FD's....
regal fulcrum
holy FD's....
Winnnn holy
regal fulcrum
2B82E
should be the farest unicode found?
Yep!
chilly fulcrum
how so consistent with getting those @slender rock - or rather what did you do to move from one to the next
chilly fulcrum
mr make the result in unicode
chilly fulcrum
are you not building with strings? or how are you doing it
thorn pilot
U+1E16: LATIN CAPITAL LETTER E WITH MACRON AND ACUTE
U+1E1A: LATIN CAPITAL LETTER E WITH TILDE BELOW
U+1E19: LATIN SMALL LETTER E WITH CIRCUMFLEX BELOW
exotic monolith
@regal fulcrum when i find a undicovered unicode does the data somehow go into your spreadsheet or do we have to send u a message
if we have to show a pic of what we found where do we send that pic so yall can check mark it
U+1C46: LEPCHA DIGIT SIX
U+1D40E: MATHEMATICAL BOLD CAPITAL
desert bramble
made this idk how useful it will be tho
exotic monolith
anyone wanna make a spreadsheet that documents every cool looking alphabet and the disco user of who first discovered it
for example:
slate whale
how to get Unicode Art?
3rd pin
rich roseBOT
primal maple
i have Partula Sagitta but not Drawing XD
rich roseBOT
exotic monolith
@primal maple do i fill in the spreadsheet myself when i get a new unicode thats on their with no check
primal maple
<@794883683995615232> do i fill in the spreadsheet myself when i get a new unico...
yes
you can add notes with lineage if needed
like i did with mine
exotic monolith
how do u add lineage
primal maple
@exotic monolith post the lineage here
primal maple
how do u add lineage
#1206592567622373446 message
like i did here with the character and character name
primal maple
like that?
yep
exotic monolith
ok
primal maple
then put in spreadsheet
exotic monolith
ok
thin warren
you'll probably need to show lineage for unicode art batak as well
primal maple
U+10328 (Unassigned)
not FD so someone already got?
or is there no FD for unassigned chars?
slate whale
or is there no FD for unassigned chars?
you can get fd for unassigned
slate whale
check sheet either way
exotic monolith
do i have to request edit access
slate whale
yea
primal maple
check sheet either way
unassigned is not in sheet
slate whale
primal maple
do i have to request edit access
ofc
primal maple
done
exotic monolith
i requested
chilly fulcrum
there’s probably a fair few not added that might go missed - and tbf if I got one of those I’d see it wasn’t an FD and wouldn’t think to check
so if/when this project nears some kind of goal a bit of digging might be needed
rich roseBOT
primal maple
@chilly fulcrum how do i contribute more?
i mean i contributed 1 single character in the past ~30 mins
like i feel you need characters to get more of them
and i only have a miniscule amount
😦
thin warren
use the "..u-" strat
thin warren
ill find it rq
slate whale
FEA2
thin warren
idk what that is
#1206592567622373446 message
you can just write out the U+XXXX and get lowercase letters on unicodes and then you can just continuously increment them and just farm them
chilly fulcrum
it seems to work reasonably well - but I haven’t got up to incrementing yet
and most of the time you’re still not at great odds for the charcode tools to actually drop the character
it seems to work better when you get character
then it seems more likely if you get one then you can get the next
My first one was 2446 and it ended up getting 2447,2448,244A (why did it skip grrr), then 244B -2450 (all unassigned) and then it looped back to 2442 and 2443 for some reason
primal maple
My first one was 2446 and it ended up getting 2447,2448,244A (why did it skip gr...
alr
10454 was mine
chilly fulcrum
2444 and 2449 I couldn’t get
primal maple
primal maple
2444 and 2449 I couldn’t get
hmm
shouldnt the U+ spreadsheet have those?
chilly fulcrum
well the sheet doesn’t have my finds yet
primal maple
im also messing with stuff with the inspect menu XD
chilly fulcrum
but 2444 and 2449 are still missing I couldn’t find them
primal maple
but 2444 and 2449 are still missing I couldn’t find them
hmmm
chilly fulcrum
you don’t want to know the lineage
I increment through about 5 unassigned code points for 2442
so they look identical but are different
But just know you aren’t alone I’ve had very few finds too
I’m working on it
primal maple
But just know you aren’t alone I’ve had very few finds too
alr 🙂
who has the most finds?
bc i know there are people that just find basically an entire block out of nowhere
chilly fulcrum
yes I’ve seen that
I almost got all the remaining OCR characters (there’s only like 10 of them tho) but it skipped 2444 and 2449
primal maple
unfortunately my find is in a block already mostly found
well to be fair many deseret characters are still missing
chilly fulcrum
try the “..u-“
Yesterday I decided to get 0157
So I made U+0157 but it never converted to charcode but it did once - and gave me 0167 instead
still was a new find but it wasn’t what I asked - and it was in quotes and I went through about 10 dead variants of failed unquotes until I finally got it
And because it looked similar to the letter t
primal maple
still was a new find but it wasn’t what I asked - and it was in quotes and I wen...
oh 😦
chilly fulcrum
it gave me letter t a lot
primal maple
And because it looked similar to the letter t
which one?
chilly fulcrum
0167
primal maple
it gave me letter t a lot
insert /because-ai command here
chilly fulcrum
So I got lowercase t numerous times too
Like do you have a specific character you want
primal maple
Like do you have a specific character you want
not really
just here to get stuff
if anything i'm only interested in Cycadophyta and its subtaxa and Partulidae and its subtaxa (which is already done; see #1219582672188346428)
chilly fulcrum
Find an open area and have a ping
primal maple
Find an open area and have a ping
wdym
cedar cloak
or is there no FD for unassigned chars?
there is but there's probably someone out there like me who just don't put unassigned unicodes on the spreadsheet
chilly fulcrum
if you want to try contribute most you can that’s probably a good bet
zenith sluice
pls make 𓄿
chilly fulcrum
yeah I have plenty of unassigned chars but even though they are different they aren’t interesting
Also at some point when I was spamming U+ variants, a new one spawned in
primal maple
also @cedar cloak photoshopped pfp or did you actually find a yellow lobster?
chilly fulcrum
it made it U with a dot on top
primal maple
it made it U with a dot on top
how?
chilly fulcrum
it just decided to do that as I was just mashing everything together
cedar cloak
also <@441401232096231444> photoshopped pfp or did you actually find a yellow lo...
it's an easy google search for it
primal maple
it's an easy google search for it
oh ok
zenith sluice
how do i craft 𓄿
primal maple
how do i craft 𓄿
spreadsheet?
zenith sluice
spreadsheet?
where is it
primal maple
where is it
graceful marsh
Have you not made your own yet?
primal maple
Have you not made your own yet?
nope
and i dont plan to
im just using this screenshot for when i need it
🤣
graceful marsh
Partula checkthepinsia has a nice ring to it
zenith sluice
how do i find it in the spreadsheet
graceful marsh
Or find the codepoint and scroll
primal maple
@graceful marsh good enough?
graceful marsh
It's gotta be one thing
primal maple
It's gotta be one thing
too lazy 😐
thin warren
Partula checkthepinsia has a nice ring to it
primal maple
🙂
zenith sluice
zenith sluice
where are the emojis at spreadsheet
thin warren
a little after line 30k i think
primal maple
where are the emojis at spreadsheet
scattered
somewhat scattered
go to emojipedia if you need codepoints
also @zenith sluice note that some emojis are ZWJ sequences and not a single character
so they are not on spreadsheet
slender rock
how so consistent with getting those <@300281705271525376> - or rather what did ...
afaik if you are in certain position of the block, you mostly can increment to next character by merging itself or merging character before.
if no, you need a second character of that block.
if the following block IS with same language origin, you could likely break it through as well.
you will be incremented until end of block, or u+xxFF, or start of a new radicals (CJK only)
night dragon
also <@1226086153359331419> note that some emojis are ZWJ sequences and not a si...
in apple i think it works
idk
slate whale
Clockwise Top Semicircle Arrow 21B7
regal fulcrum
<@501500017308205066> when i find a undicovered unicode does the data somehow go...
Make a comment under the character you found
Theres a guide on how to check unicode value in the pin
Go there and add a comment on the sheet
graceful marsh
There is 1 impostor among us
abstract marsh
me?
abstract marsh
Go there and add a comment on the sheet
oh right... is it possible to check unicode from firefox mobile with extensions or something similar? if so, i will migrate hundreds of useful element to firefox & attempt it ( if not then i will use the json method )
well not just firefox any kind of browser that could do it would suffice... i still need to do from scratch anyway
graceful marsh
Wait for Mongolian Beef to be released /j
abstract marsh
you might need something like html unicode or html unifont.... smth?
how's the tree though?
cedar cloak
html code html entity prob
abstract marsh
if its easy to move from one entity to another, then it would be worth a shot
cedar cloak
how's the tree though?
its a bit stubborn but it can be done in quotes
abstract marsh
oh no... xD im bad at quotes imma throw that to someone else
abstract marsh
im curious who did it
thin warren
though it seems like someone alr trie this
cedar cloak
wb unquoted
slender rock
More
chilly fulcrum
Oh damn what did you do to append the less than sign - did the prepend less than sign work
whats the deal with adding zeroes to the "..u-" - i got "..u-0" but i cant add another 0
chilly fulcrum
well i have "00:" now
might have to just deal with howver one increments U+0000
clearly not at the stage to get what i want yet
cant get just "00" on its own
cedar cloak
chilly fulcrum
and these elements arent playing with the "..u-" anyway they just refuse to give what im after
ill try get double zero
nice it wasnt bad
Double + 0 (Zero)
dude it knows
it knows what U+0024 is
the emoji is always funny
damn it isnt giving me it in quotes tho
got another U varient tho
tepid blaze
got other likes these (and you can combine them to get higher number)
regal fulcrum
Maybe try adding U+0024?
If not then maybe ask the altphabet crew to see if they have "$"
chilly fulcrum
ive got plenty of U+0024 variants
but it seems $ is especially resilient to quotes
chilly fulcrum
it deletes the quotes every time so far
if it adds (rare)
so i have a few stuff like ab4$
and i have had "fromcharcode" enquote things before
unfortunately not this time
chilly fulcrum
it has previously worked
but deleting periods is not consistent so
im trying to get "u-0" just on its own
but "..u-0" will not give up the periods
thin warren
if you combine “..u-xxxx” with “u-“ it actually works fairly well
thin warren
im trying to get "u-0" just on its own
this is an extremely unoptimized lineage for that with a bunch of unnecessary steps #1206592567622373446 message
vivid canyon
I think I posted one somewhere
chilly fulcrum
what would you try after deletes dont work
vivid canyon
Ah yes, I posted this one #1206592567622373446 message
thin warren
what would you try after deletes dont work
add period, add periods, “u”, “u-“
chilly fulcrum
uh
thin warren
add period can sometimes just delete a period if you have two
chilly fulcrum
ok but im after "u-" too
thin warren
“u” + prepend hyphen
vivid canyon
"u" + Full Stop + Hyphen works no need for the Prepend here 😄
abstract marsh
probs better to use text based lineage
im confused readimg this chat XD
thorn pilot
Φ
chilly fulcrum
seems to be as resilient as hashtag
it wont go in quotes about the same ways that # wont go in quotes either
you know how # is a semireliable un quote method
well i bet $ is too
which is good until you want it in quotes
tepid blaze
bruhh a dead item -_-
chilly fulcrum
oh is that really dead
thin warren
to needs to be To
chilly fulcrum
i thought it only had to be correct title case
thin warren
every word does
chilly fulcrum
ok i guess i am just confused because to is pretty much never capitalised in titles
i suppose there is different meaning
regal fulcrum
ok i guess i am just confused because to is pretty much never capitalised in tit...
Title case means the first character after any space in a string must be capitalized
thin warren
can be a special character aswell
regal fulcrum
This is why items that are in quotes or that begin with a hashtag aren't dead. Because the first character in the string is a symbol. Therefore technically counted as uppercase by default
chilly fulcrum
fair but honestly i would have expected title case to mimic real titles
but i guess then its not definite because theres no law or anything
graceful marsh
We call it Title Case because I accidentally called it Title Case
Mika's right, it's Start Case you need
Which is much more consistent behaviour. Space-separated or start of string? ToUppercase with you
chilly fulcrum
That went very poorly - I tried to get mathematical operator without string building
crane mathematician was the best I got
Which is in the right direction but just wrong
unkempt lantern
Has ω not been found? I see it's not in the sheet in the last pin
abstract marsh
then find it?
unkempt lantern
this is not me saying "chop chop", this is me asking if the sheet is up to date or if someone made it and it's not marked
tepid blaze
this is not me saying "chop chop", this is me asking if the sheet is up to date ...
if its not in the spreadsheet probably no one in the discord have it
abstract marsh
after reviewing this image
i dont remember making a good lineage that was used in here for good
oof
||respectfully i request removing my name for good...||
tepid blaze
can someone gimme a recipe for "0"
its in the bot (except if you are talking about ᦞ)
slate whale
i can trade some first dcs for it
u trade discoveries?
slate whale
wow
slate whale
yeah i have 5491
merry epoch
.
slate whale
merry epoch
slate whale
bro
slate whale
"zero"
slate whale
oh you wanted 0 not "0"
merry epoch
ye i wanted o
slate whale
please check bot next time
slate whale
lower case o is the same as O
abstract marsh
they want it as o probably?
tepid blaze
ye i wanted o
wait you want NEW TAI LUE LETTER LOW VA?
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1209688472177352805/1226537733124784230/qYziBRV.png?ex=66252147&is=6612ac47&hm=3053a3d3d745d789b28514bc558f6ef1ad4d6886276c2c18c9a5e55e8e02b754&
merry epoch
wait you want `NEW TAI LUE LETTER LOW VA`?
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachment...
yee
abstract marsh
ok that twist was unexpected
tepid blaze
yee
its really not the best lineage but here: New Tai Lue Letter Low Va
slate whale
he typed o not o
slate whale
its really not the best lineage but here: [New Tai Lue Letter Low Va](https://ib...
wish my save wasnt before the helper so i could actually use this
tepid blaze
he typed o not o
yeah but some time ago when i posted about New Tai Lue Letter Low Va in #first-discoveries message he asked how and i tottaly forgot about it until now
candid trellis
you probably dont need this but was bored for a min
"the" + Chromatic for "the Chromatic" but you prob alr know that
abstract marsh
its really not the best lineage but here: [New Tai Lue Letter Low Va](https://ib...
very complicated indeed, i might attempt to reduce the step if they need it simple
tepid blaze
very complicated indeed, i might attempt to reduce the step if they need it simp...
yeah it could probably have a lot less steps but dont know good way to do such thing as optimizing recipe (at least intentionally)
graceful marsh
Optimise Micronesian Library of Congress so we don't have to make the French Minecraft Server IP to do it
tepid blaze
Optimise Micronesian Library of Congress so we don't have to make the French Min...
Working on it
abstract marsh
yeah it could probably have a lot less steps but dont know good way to do such t...
intentionally optimizing it into less than 1000 step is 99% possible
unkempt lantern
its really not the best lineage but here: [New Tai Lue Letter Low Va](https://ib...
lmao this is a troll right
tepid blaze
lmao this is a troll right
no?
unkempt lantern
it goes on an absolutely unhinged tangent to craft "Song" and then use it to craft Barbados
abstract marsh
it goes on an absolutely unhinged tangent to craft "Song" and then use it to cra...
well it is just a bot checking the recipe of the save file
what did you expect? bot optimizing it?
tepid blaze
it goes on an absolutely unhinged tangent to craft "Song" and then use it to cra...
like i said its not optimized its literally made only from the item i have, and if i wanted all my recipe to be optimal i would need to do specific recipe for like 5k item just to have some basic optimization
unkempt lantern
well it is just a bot checking the recipe of the save file
what did you expect? ...
yes? I don't think this expectation is out there, not like there isn't a different bot that has this feature, and I thought it was just pulled from a database
unkempt lantern
like i said its not optimized its literally made only from the item i have, and ...
I see but that's still a funny crazy detour
sour swallow
proudest fd
abstract marsh
yes? I don't think this expectation is out there, not like there isn't a differe...
yup, it was purely just analyze the save file
unless missing recipe exist, then it will try to pull recipe from DB
tepid blaze
Optimise Micronesian Library of Congress so we don't have to make the French Min...
gonna directly made it by writing it down manually since even with a recipe that take less steps infinibrowser does not want to update the lineage
abstract marsh
gonna directly made it by writing it down manually since even with a recipe that...
my method was... use fresh save file
but that gonna take too much time indeed
tepid blaze
my method was... use fresh save file
but that gonna take too much time indeed
not that bad of a idea, i can probably optimize it by like 800/900 steps
abstract marsh
wth, i was hoping it to be less than 500 step but surely take it slowly
tepid blaze
wth, i was hoping it to be less than 500 step but surely take it slowly
it surely is , micronesia is not that hard to get, and library of congress... its smth else but probably not a element that take a lot of steps
abstract marsh
it surely is , micronesia is not that hard to get, and library of congress... it...
im thinking micro + indonesian or indonesia but that sound too good to be true
so yes
tepid blaze
im thinking micro + indonesian or indonesia but that sound too good to be true
s...
micronesia is in Infinite Craft Helper so, also we should probably take that to #speedrunning if we are gonna continue i think, for the moment i got Micronesia at 35 steps
abstract marsh
micronesia is in Infinite Craft Helper so, also we should probably take that to ...
sure
unkempt lantern
these only give capital omega, ω is U+03C9
I'm guessing I'm being trolled by the AI's tendency to capitalize right?
sour swallow
ive been trying to make the tm sign for hours i just went though and got to U+0001 but i cant find anywhere how to get U+2012
regal fulcrum
ive been trying to make the tm sign for hours i just went though and got to U+00...
To increment you have two choices
- Start at U+1 which is pretty easy to make, and increment to 2012 (increment starting with the thousands, then the hundreds, etc)
- Get U+0000 and U+++ elements which are very reliable to increment 4 digits unicode values
sour swallow
thanks
timid sierra
Can somone help with this ȝ
sour swallow
it was much easier than the sheets recipe thanks for the help
unkempt lantern
well there was an attempt
latent lily
how do you get "..u-"?
twin bay
it was much easier than the sheets recipe thanks for the help
Even simpler lol
#trademark + TM = ™ works too
regal fulcrum
well there was an attempt
Make It Lowercase maybe?
Make It Lowercase would be a funny command item
unkempt lantern
Gonna try that
slate whale
it crashed today twice
my laptop crashed
graceful marsh
That sounds like a problem of a different caliber
slate whale
both times were when i combined things, i think my ram couldnt keep up lol
twin bay
ᦟ (U+199F : NEW TAI LUE LETTER LOW LA)
unkempt lantern
Make It Lowercase maybe?
No luck with Make It Lower Case, but
given how this reacts when I'm trying to make it, this might be a good path:
graceful marsh
A fun fact courtesy of D
twin bay
:D
ancient basin
A fun fact courtesy of D
it actually works lol
vivid canyon
No luck with Make It Lower Case, but
This is really funny, i'm looking for the exact opposite right now #1215495041049436170 message
twin bay
In my experience modifiers work better when they are prepended by either hashtag or .
So .lowercase.converter .small.converter / .uppercase .allcaps and such might work better
vivid canyon
in my case i don't see how that is going to work because it's pretty rare that #hashtagelement + #hashtagelement gives an unhashtagged element
twin bay
They do some times
But also the .lowercase/.allcaps might work on "words" directly
To unquote
vivid canyon
perhaps
i'm trying to find the absolute best method since i only have one chance (unless i save edit)
twin bay
Dead 💀
ancient basin
oof
twin bay
"hyphens" + Capslock = "Hyphens" First letter capitalized 🤔
ancient basin
interesting
vivid canyon
all my uppercase elements do that from time to time, if only we could actually get different capitalisations like that 😌
cedar cloak
A fun fact courtesy of D
that's weird i swear i tried that before
that could also be a faster u+1 somehow maybe
chilly fulcrum
how much of the stuff like "javanese equals sign" is not built up by string stuff
abstract marsh
if without quotes, i can probs get it / probs have it
chilly fulcrum
yeah how much of that is not string building - i did try for a bit to get some things like that to no success - which is funny in my brute force it became really easy to tell when it would combine like that
i guess i just didnt have enough nearby elements tho
most of my elements arent normal - if i had say 1,000 "normal" elements before my goofiness in my save then i think itd be much better off in that regard
dude
why did u- strats capitalise
why didnt it work?
wtf man are you serious?
abstract marsh
oh i indeed had Javanese Equal Sign
but not Javanese Equals Sign
chilly fulcrum
ok im pissed that was my first time trying to get a lowercased hex u+
and it didnt work
and again
it capitalised u+22a1
i thought the point of these strats being OP was that it didnt do that??
and again with 22A2
am i doing something wrong
thin warren
quite literally that is just extremely unlucky
chilly fulcrum
i think i am somehow unquoting it the wrong way
caps with 22a3
i must be doing it wrong
how are you unquoting it from "..u-xxxx"
thin warren
i just did it myself and you genuinely just got unlucky with what you randomly picked
ive never had a single one capitalize before
thin warren
nah i just did it on u-22a3 and it capitalized it as well
chilly fulcrum
how are you unquoting it
thin warren
i normally get it to "u-xxxx" + U+0
chilly fulcrum
im adding "u" to get "u-xxxxu" then delete last character for "u-xxxx" then U+0
thin warren
i did it with that one and it capitalized which normally never happens
chilly fulcrum
suuuuuuure.... i think its my gaming chair
how do you normally get it to "u-xxxx" btw
so far adding "u" and then del last character seems consistent
until then
"..u-xxxxu" lovely
hey there we go
i got lowercase U+22b4
thin warren
how do you normally get it to "u-xxxx" btw
normally i try delete one, delete one period, delete one quotation mark, delete one apostrophe, delete period, delete periods, delete the period, delete the periods, add period, add periods, "u", "u-", "u-0"
chilly fulcrum
now how do i increment this
thin warren
combine it with itself
chilly fulcrum
didnt work
it just gave me a characrer
looks like the play button character or something
ill try 22b5
also um
i dont have any "delete one"
nice job
22b5 caps as well
and 22b6
thats 6/7 on caps
and how would i make "..u-22ba"
or things of that nature
the "a" wont go on the end it just gets eaten
7/8
8/9 (i did U+22cc this time)
ok 250a not caps
will it increment though
wow it actually incremented
amazing
interesting - ive gotten a white rectangle every time with U+250b and charcodes/unicodes
it seems very sure that a white rectangle is appropriate
exotic monolith
can one of u send a link for the delete help spreadsheet
graceful marsh
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There's been some horrific ones
cedar cloak
i think i have so many recipes for that face
cedar cloak
https://discord.com/channels/1203527044957208596/1206592567622373446/12186331297...
what was the old strat to get unicodes before Ü+
graceful marsh
Just throw a <language> Unicode at a letter or number until you break in then climb
cedar cloak
oh so basically a 1/1000 chance of a new unicode character
graceful marsh
More or less
I mean our old hieroglyphs route was dependent on Isis which got banned
cedar cloak
Just throw a <language> Unicode at a letter or number until you break in then cl...
what if we never found any pseU+dos
we would have like 5 unicode characters
cedar cloak
i js remembered most of the emojis in the emoji spreadsheet aren't added to the unicode spreadsheet
i think it's not added at least it's been a while since i checked
chilly fulcrum
I mean I’m having no luck with this
but I don’t have many language unicodes
or box drawing
I’m trying to get box drawing
without a pre done recipe I’m not sure how to exactly get those languages but I suppose worst case I can build it up
i got art box, progress
ok well i need to try get remove the mr..... omg what is this horrible recipe wtf "r"emove the
thats the prerequisite
good thing theres a lineage so its fine
also if remove the mr is much more consistent than delete the mr..... has someone tried getting all the deletes but with remove instead?
definitely what i meant
regal fulcrum
This is exactly what led to Unicode Art being randomly discovered by Laurasia
chilly fulcrum
yeah well im trying to do something nearby but on purpose - although Box's Drawings i am finding quite difficult to drop the 's, despite some "unpossessive" variants
weirdest one ive seen
if it wasnt an FD id brush it off as a weird little quirk but it was an FD so thats kinda interesting
trail wagon
Just throw a <language> Unicode at a letter or number until you break in then cl...
XD i still do that
chilly fulcrum
damn i still suck at string building
"abox.d" + "ra" = "aboxdra"
like i didnt ask you to delete the dot grrr
hour 3 of trying to get "box drawing" or "box drawing unicode" - there are people who can do that in 5 mins
vivid canyon
i'm guessing you don't want help with it
chilly fulcrum
i mean help is fine as long as it is to get me towards that sort of level - i.e. to develop the understanding and situtional awareness to know what to do and what to not do
"boxdrawing"
progress
chilly fulcrum
ive had to resort to string building
Box's Drawings is closest ive got
and i cant remove the 's
#boxdrawing - now to un hash this guy....
vivid canyon
i would do smth like this
haven't done the last step yet, maybe yours works out and you get FD
chilly fulcrum
how would you just make delete the best like that - strategies like this imply that you already have technique to generate whatever you want in a few minutes - which is what i a trying to build up to - so i dont think a strategy assuming i have the skill already is going to work
thin warren
bro the game just gave me the middle finger for using prepend hashtag :3
???????????
neat nest
deserved
chilly fulcrum
rip
neat nest
wajaja
vivid canyon
A lot of Delete elements can be created like this
graceful marsh
That's Ian
chilly fulcrum
but i dont have any spacing elements
graceful marsh
I can't believe this
thin warren
LMAO
chilly fulcrum
"the Box" , "the Best" also - which i think i do know how to get i can use space strats and look up just the words i want to add on in browser
that much i think i do get
graceful marsh
Neat how it recognises the middle finger though
I wonder what that vectorisation looks like
Like is it stored near the concept of fuck
chilly fulcrum
probably time to get spacing stuff
vivid canyon
once you have one "the Word" element, it is pretty easy to get more since they combine pretty well and you can do Delete First/Last Word to isolate the one you want
chilly fulcrum
yes id just have to look up the words if i didnt have them
vivid canyon
"the Box" for example is just "the Chromatic" + Box + Delete First Word
chilly fulcrum
im just trying more general methods first to learn more
like its not terrible ive gotten to Boxdrawing on my own
so its getting somewhere
i just lack spacing elements so i need to go get some - where they at?
vivid canyon
there were some optimisations for those today actually
graceful marsh
Eisern optimised With Spac(e/ing) I think
Let me find it
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I didn't realise he made the Eiffel Tower
twin bay
I didn't either
chilly fulcrum
ah nice we added thread there
time to get ~ing and all that
i havent done much with tilde
twin bay
let me find that
graceful marsh
No
twin bay
Way ahead of you
twin bay
Way behind you
vivid canyon
If i had a decent recipe for you-know-what-i-made, I would ask you to prepend that as well
chilly fulcrum
the recipe for with: laughs in 50 steps
graceful marsh
Wouldn't work
vivid canyon
oh right
graceful marsh
Tokenisation gets in the way
chilly fulcrum
the recipe for spacing: cute doggo
vivid canyon
too many tokens
chilly fulcrum
70 step without, very nice i enjoy this
thin warren
why he doin that
chilly fulcrum
lul
graceful marsh
Holy shit
chilly fulcrum
lenny what are you up to there
graceful marsh
We have a face for Ian
chilly fulcrum
main criticism of the route
it does not elaborate on how it un hashtags and adds spaces to the #withspacing
it seems to terminate there
vivid canyon
Delete First with all the #elements to get the Elements
that?
chilly fulcrum
like repeatedly? ah ok
thin warren
delete first can get rid of hashtags and if you have things that are clearly separate words then the ai will just separate them for you sometimes
chilly fulcrum
yes - although With Spacing + Delete First didnt give me Without Spacing
hey it worked
Box Drawing
time to figure out how to append unicode
balinese unicode box drawing
HEY
me too??
what did i do
thin warren
very nice
chilly fulcrum
balinese unicode box drawing + stuff apparently gives that
- reverse it was
ok looks like it just does that
for most things
Box Drawing + Unicode Javanese Consortium = 🗃
U+1F5C3
graceful marsh
Hey, it's a box drawing
chilly fulcrum
something like that
i was going for Box Drawing Unicode
or something similar
its also a new character
so ig ill take it
it might be incrementable
lets find out
yeah i think it is
merry epoch
chilly fulcrum
i just got file cabinet which is the next one down the line
merry epoch
i have over 400 things in numbers
chilly fulcrum
also whats the best way to open the console - its annoying having the screen really tiny and all that cause of the console window
true have we tried U+0907.776 + fromcharcode? didnt think so
chilly fulcrum
hmm
merry epoch
i wanna try to make a number like this
chilly fulcrum
you dont want the capital A though - im told that was bad luck on my part
merry epoch
oo
chilly fulcrum
im told theres some anticheat "bug" where stuff must be capitalised a certain way otherwise they are "dead" and wont combine with anything - the catch is that whilst you can get different capitalisations of things, you cannot get them in the same game
so i can now never get U+22a0
merry epoch
thats intresting
chilly fulcrum
it will always give me U+22A0 instead
merry epoch
im gonna try to make this
chilly fulcrum
it would be fine if one thing was true but not the other
merry epoch
i just need exclamtion
chilly fulcrum
but both are true and thats a really annoying problem
merry epoch
loll
trail wagon
perfect image im stealing it thanks
chilly fulcrum
nooo it only incremented once what?
lethal nymph
so i can now never get U+22a0
can revive it though
it just won't exist in your element list
chilly fulcrum
got 1f5c3, then combined with self to get 1f5c4
and it ended right there
damn how do people get blocks then if it just stops like that?
how normal is that rather
for it to just stop
looks like box drawing isnt quite enough to coerce the codepoints
i might need box drawing unicode
and wtf man whats up with that the codepoints themselves increment from U+250a to U+250d and then it just stops
exotic monolith
chilly fulcrum
ok time to get some "delete one"
plush ravine
interesting that someone found out how to get to letters, could not figure that out after gettings words themselves
chilly fulcrum
where are the "delete one" recipes at
oblique vigil
how do people get specific U+<number here> elements?
I have a really tough time especially with the higher numbers
slender rock
where are the "delete one" recipes at
then delete one period + xxx should get delete one xxx
chilly fulcrum
ahh okay
oblique vigil
does anyone here have U+2870?
I know at least one person does since its needed for braille
but I just cant get to that number
merry epoch
does anyone here have U+2870?
im still tryna get the U+ numbers
dusky lynx
does anyone have the link for #^
lethal nymph
#d + caret
dusky lynx
thanks
dusky lynx
how to get +0
lethal nymph
what are you doing that needs +0
lethal nymph
+0 was hacked in
dusky lynx
oh alr
chilly fulcrum
ooh i got ":" not long ago - it was a bit finnicky though
"." + Colon was my recipe
dusky lynx
i have http in quotation marks but it keeps making http://
narrow pollen
Help what have I done
plucky notch
thats what it said on the spreadsheet ¯_(ツ)_/¯
thin warren
ik the spreadsheet is wrong
timid sierra
Is this a single or a or 2 characters?
cedar cloak
is it not 2 unicodes
abstract marsh
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try this
abstract marsh
correct and U+++1
D found it quite recently
plucky notch
does rubiks know abt this?
abstract marsh
yes
plucky notch
the UK+unicode?
abstract marsh
indeed, check #speedrunning
plucky notch
who owns the spreadsheet?
spring minnow
i own the spreadsheet
abstract marsh
that was quick...
plucky notch
i own the spreadsheet
spring minnow
that was quick...
coincidence lol
abstract marsh
yeah
spring minnow
oh not this spreadsheet
i was actually thinking of combining the spreadsheets though
plucky notch
oh not this spreadsheet
who owns the other?
spring minnow
not sure how that would go
abstract marsh
how about U+++1 i didntk now about that
still the same #speedrunning
spring minnow
try asking kali
abstract marsh
oh wait D is finding nice alt step...
not bad
Credit : D
oh man that looks like smiley face
graceful marsh
Is that a formatting error or does Plus + Unicode really create a circumflex z caron
chilly fulcrum
i mean germany + unicode too is funny
abstract marsh
Is that a formatting error or does Plus + Unicode really create a circumflex z c...
formatting error apparently
primal maple
formatting error apparently
samsung user
also correct me if im wrong but these are older emojis
regal fulcrum
im told theres some anticheat "bug" where stuff *must* be capitalised a certain ...
Not really an anticheat
Essentially, neal realized items like Lord of the Rings and Lord Of The Rings were different and caused confusion
So one of the things he did, besides limiting one capitalization per save under normal circumstances, IM GUESSING, is that the check in db gets title cased. So if a correctly capitalized item exists in db, it'll work normally, but if it doesn't, it'll be broken
Mika has said there's no like, anticheat, or verification like that, but she hasnt explained something that makes the dead elements being revivable make sense
chilly fulcrum
dead elements unfortunately just about ruin it
for me
you could make everything have the right caps server side and be done with it as far as i can tell
regal fulcrum
dead elements unfortunately just about ruin it
Theyre a hurdle but it makes things more complicated it's fun idk
Im not saying its a positive but except if we once find a stupidly strong quantum entanglement case it's not a massive negative either
Cant have it all
regal fulcrum
try asking kali
Whats up?
spring minnow
who owns the other?
@regal fulcrum
regal fulcrum
What spreadsheets do you want to know about?
I know cora had a spreadsheet for ancient scripts but im 99% sure we're taken all the info from it into ours
tepid blaze
who owns the other?
if im not wrong its orangystik that own the U+ one ?
regal fulcrum
Oh shit maybe
I thought julia did but thats because weve been methodically using every U+ element in ranges
Orangystik owns emojis but im p sure he wants to keep it as a separate project
- i dont see a reason to merge it
Tho we could link it in the admin page!
Cause im pretty sure when casual players check out the Unicode sheet they're more interested in smtn like 🍆 than GREEK CAPITAL LETTER OMEGA WITH PSILI AND OXIA AND PROSGEGRAMMENI
sage wren
abstract marsh
alot of us has it :> but i wonder what have you done
lethal nymph
how in the world do i search for that
merry epoch
how in the world do i search for that
lol
tepid blaze
how in the world do i search for that
� (fun fact you can do it in only 65 steps)
lethal nymph
but who has the fd for fffd
abstract marsh
definitely not me for sure
chilly fulcrum
nice the phone keyboard has Ů and Û which are the two variants I didn’t ask for but that just popped up randomly
so more chances for charcode I suppose
primal maple
nice the phone keyboard has Ů and Û which are the two variants I didn’t ask for ...
wdym?
slender rock
lol, rediscovering the whole block of Old North Arabian letter and the recipe was not input
night dragon
can somone make a full tree for u+0
glacial horizon
can somone make a full tree for u+0
would you like it fuller or is this good?
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night dragon
would you like it fuller or is this good?
https://discord.com/channels/120352704...
tysm
glacial horizon
np!
glacial horizon
wait uh how do yu get mi
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U+a100 - U+a1ff have been found and THERE ARE NO DEAD ELEMENTS!!!!!!!! 🎉 🎉🎉
glacial horizon
sorry for pinging again, how do you get "0"
recipes for all of these are in other channels and in the discord bot, this probably already had a tree posted somewhere else
night dragon
ok
candid trellis
there's also this one which is probably easier, don't remember where I got it from though
vivid canyon
one more without Deletes
quiet hill
there's also this one which is probably easier, don't remember where I got it fr...
Natasqaure told that recipe first
modest idol
we just need UK+unicode lol
fixed lol
chilly fulcrum
where - also we got much better U+0001 and other stuff
ah
might want to change it on the U+000X sheet too
instead of U+0000's + Name
unkempt laurel
chilly fulcrum
interesting that you found a way to get rid of the dot without deletes like that
lethal nymph
the ai doesn't like trailing symbols
chilly fulcrum
hmm well add period and prepend hyphen do a very good job of making trailing symbols then
lethal nymph
prepend = append (source: llama)
chilly fulcrum
maybe "prefix" would be clearer
lethal nymph
i assume you'd want a verb for your instruction
which is why prepend hashtag works so much more consistent than (the) hashtag
tribal copper
how do you get ‘ (me want ‘ no catfish’
zenith sluice
how do i get Unicode Phonetic Extended?