of the southern isles
#Unicode
chilly fulcrum
vivid canyon
i think if you get Capitalization Of The Items, putting The in front wont be so hard
regal fulcrum
yeah
alright this started as a very dumb side roject
it wasnt even the main focus of what i was doing
i accidentally sidetracked everyone LMAO
lethal nymph
i need to finish the script but this seems more important
regal fulcrum
LMAO
chilly fulcrum
rea
real
surely we can just make the hexadecimal representation of the string and combine with Hex To Text or something
lethal nymph
tokens:
vivid canyon
do this
slate whale
U+2740 U+2741 U+2742 U+2743
lethal nymph
ah yes i literally said it here
chilly fulcrum
I’ll see if I can get on the lowercase incrementing tech
vivid canyon
or sometimes you get unlucky and all the dots selfdestruct and create a dead element
graceful marsh
Yeah thanks game
lethal nymph
that hasn't happened to me (yet)
regal fulcrum
dead
chilly fulcrum
please do explain how one is able to so quickylly generate a string at will I need to learn
regal fulcrum
U+2740 U+2741 U+2742 U+2743
niiiice
vivid canyon
that hasn't happened to me (yet)
it literally happened with the singular version :D
lethal nymph
you just do it for a while and get used to the ai
lethal nymph
it literally happened with the singular version :D
😔
chilly fulcrum
I guess
lethal nymph
also "the of" is alive
chilly fulcrum
that’s normally how it is
lethal nymph
does anyone have "capital" so i can skip typing it
vivid canyon
does anyone have "capital" so i can skip typing it
me rn LMAO
regal fulcrum
vivid canyon
I should never have been taught "alphabet-"
lethal nymph
me rn LMAO
😔
regal fulcrum
graceful marsh
Got it and alive
regal fulcrum
ooo damn
lethal nymph
dang
lethal nymph
same
graceful marsh
Thar it be
regal fulcrum
yippeee
graceful marsh
I hate that it's in American english
regal fulcrum
Might Be Different time
graceful marsh
If you look at my lineage when I post it you can see I kept it British the whole time
regal fulcrum
I hate that it's in American english
do you wanna do this for another 20 minutes just to britishify it
abstract marsh
laura being british...
sound cool
regal fulcrum
Might Be Different is annoying as fuck
"might" sticks to nothing
always turns to "mighty"
doesnt work
graceful marsh
This tree is like A Race Designed To Torture People all over again
tribal copper
Can someone help me get . And ‘
chilly fulcrum
Full stop might be impossible
graceful marsh
100% sure
Even without the cheaty way
slate whale
this is good to know
graceful marsh
During the bug, outputs that would have led to "." were being unenquoted, and thus rejected
Wait I forgot my signature
There we go
regal fulcrum
During the bug, outputs that would have led to "." were being unenquoted, and th...
oh my god
right
never even thought of that
graceful marsh
Anyway I've taken the FD on two items and you can see more-or-less the process now so I'll let you have fun with the middle one
regal fulcrum
Anyway I've taken the FD on two items and you can see more-or-less the process n...
thing is
it's so inconsistent
regal fulcrum
There we go
"a."?
graceful marsh
"a" + Full Stop
regal fulcrum
@lethal nymph
lethal nymph
thank
chilly fulcrum
Damn I see the process kinda but definitely I’m not at a plate to be able to apply it - but hopefully I can understand over time I’m still relatively new so I can’t expect to get a grip on it right away
graceful marsh
what in the world is that hashtagging
Useful sometimes
Have had it happen once or twice with The Hashtags
chilly fulcrum
Where sorry I’d like to see
graceful marsh
Here
chilly fulcrum
Ah I see
one day I’ll get there - but I have to graduate to getting 5 letter strings on demand first
lethal nymph
oh my god it's 31 characters
graceful marsh
Did you just Chromatic my hyphens
graceful marsh
Quality
Well I don't want to say you... er... thatted my hyphens so I'll leave it be
vivid canyon
i have some of those, was seeing if "a Word" was a viable alternative to "the Word"
It is not
lethal nymph
rip
vivid canyon
i mean, idk, maybe it is viable. But not nearly as easy as "the"
lethal nymph
aaaa
i can't combine with Visual (Lineage (By (Kali)))
these have been combining since the big bang
abstract marsh
i would reload & retry
lethal nymph
my beloved
vivid canyon
why game so laggy rn
lethal nymph
my bad i'm doing 6 recipes simultaneously
chilly fulcrum
Dang your board is so clean
chilly fulcrum
Mine has 30 copies of about 30 elements stacked on top of each other with middle click
To keep track of all the near weird stuff I have
Looks like you have a lot but you don’t keep it on the board
lethal nymph
all i need is pinned
chilly fulcrum
I prefer to keep it I hate having to search once I accidentally exhaust my copy
no i mean like all the variants of the “visual lineage” and kali stuff
lethal nymph
oh
chilly fulcrum
I keep those on the board
lethal nymph
that's because i refreshed lmao
chilly fulcrum
Each stacked 20 high so I don’t accidentally use it up
makes it lag like crazy cause of the lines tho
lethal nymph
hmmm i can make a script that makes an element "permanent"
chilly fulcrum
well how do you manage do you just deal with remembering the close hits and searching them up
I find I forget so I keep them on the board
tribal copper
How do you get ‘
tepid blaze
my beloved
i have the same problem i cant combine anything rn (except if i really force 6 time)
graceful marsh
Why is the Beef growing so much
chilly fulcrum
the beef?
lethal nymph
mongolian beef script my beloved
vivid canyon
beef script
tribal copper
How do you get ‘
lethal nymph
i have the same problem i cant combine anything rn (except if i really force 6 t...
i've been combining those 7 pairs for like 20m
tepid blaze
i've been combining those 7 pairs for like 20m
ive been just trying to get fromcharcode and took me like 10min for it to do 1 of the thing need for it💀
graceful marsh
Huh
graceful marsh
Seems so
latent lily
yeah i cant combine new stuff
tribal copper
How do you get ‘
abstract marsh
yeah game very laggy rn
im not even playing yet since few hours ago 🙃
chilly fulcrum
endpoint verification failed
chilly fulcrum
nice, what did it take to get :3
regal fulcrum
@mental ruin
vivid canyon
deleting The from an unquoted word 🥴
lethal nymph
exactly
😔
Visual Lineage didn't want to combine
but The Visual Lineage did
i have no choices
lethal nymph
yea no i can't get them into Mr either
mental ruin
<@1013923910821093517>
HOW
graceful marsh
Watch as PB scrambles to delete Pbpbpb from his save
lethal nymph
LET'S GO
mental ruin
i have many saves
regal fulcrum
i am utterly confused btw
it randomly capitalized itself
it knew
it had ZERO reason to capitalize itself
mental ruin
im quite popular huh
regal fulcrum
imma make a lineage tonight i kinda dont have space rn
mental ruin
whats the last step
regal fulcrum
mental ruin
wow
regal fulcrum
(i tried with a ton of stuff at the same time)
lethal nymph
"the" + Visual Lineage = The Visual Lineage
"the Chromatic" + Fuck = "the Chromatic Fuck"
"ing" + "the Chromatic Fuck" = "the Chromatic Fucking"
"the Chromatic Fucking" + Delete First Word = "the Fucking"
"the Fucking" + Visual Lineage = "the Fucking Visual Lineage"
"the Fucking Visual Lineage" + Delete First Word = "the Visual Lineage"
"the Visual Lineage" + BY = "the Visual Lineage By"
"by" + Kali = "by Kali"
"by Kali" + "the Visual Lineage By" = "the Visual Lineage By Kali"
"the Visual Lineage By Kali" + Delete First Word = "the Lineage By Kali"
"the Lineage By Kali" + U+0020 = "the Lineage By Kali "
“:” + "the Lineage By Kali " = “the Lineage By Kali :”
“the Lineage By Kali :” + Kali :3 = “the Lineage By Kali :3”
“the Lineage By Kali :3” + 「」 = 「the Lineage By Kali :3」
「the Lineage By Kali :3」 + Mr. & Mrs. = Mr. & Mrs. Lineage By Kali :3
Lineage + Mr. & Mrs. Lineage By Kali :3 = Lineage By Kali :3
Lineage By Kali :3 + The Visual Lineage = The Visual Lineage By Kali :3
Mr. - + visual = Mr. Visual
Mr. Visual + Visual Lineage = Mr. Visual Lineage
Mr. Visual Lineage + The Visual Lineage By Kali :3 = Mr. Visual Lineage By Kali :3
Mr. Visual Lineage By Kali :3 + Remove The Mr. = Visual Lineage By Kali :3```damn
lethal nymph
this took way longer than it needs too
mental ruin
maybe updated model was trained on IC discord chat log 😄
vivid canyon
I knew Mr. was the way forward
lethal nymph
so true
graceful marsh
Actually, I only got Laurasia-Gondwanaland today
After it failed so many times back on the 17th
lethal nymph
Mr. somehow eradicated The
mental ruin
i mean... that would make sense cos this discord is a goldmine of recipes... right?
vivid canyon
```
"the" + Visual Lineage = The Visual Lineage
"the Chromatic" + Fuck = "the Ch...
"the Chromatic Fuck"
lethal nymph
that was last resort
vivid canyon
"the Lineage By Kali" + U+0020 = "the Lineage By Kali "
this is insane lol
graceful marsh
Eisern space strats
lethal nymph
#1213692353223589888 message
latent lily
thanks
candid trellis
Text lineage : https://discord.com/channels/1203527044957208596/1207756159663083...
regal fulcrum
oo
damn
nice one holy shit!
oh i also gotta use the visual lineage thing natasquare found
okay give me 10 mins
mental ruin
that looks great
candid trellis
posted lineage in #1215495041049436170 as to not clutter this chat
regal fulcrum
```
"the" + Visual Lineage = The Visual Lineage
"the Chromatic" + Fuck = "the Ch...
do you have the recipe to Mr. & Mrs.?
lethal nymph
least weird recipe
latent lily
https://discord.com/channels/1203527044957208596/1213692353223589888/12243741362...
do you have a recipe for tildes?
abstract marsh
least weird recipe
least weird...
oh well
latent lily
none of my plural elements work
vivid canyon
do you have the recipe to Mr. & Mrs.?
there are so many
regal fulcrum
oh ty
regal fulcrum
do you have a recipe for tildes?
Tilda + Tilde
latent lily
oh thanks
abstract marsh
i have.... Ampersand
vivid canyon
💀 idk
regal fulcrum
i need it im sobbing
abstract marsh
idk i have none of these
im just not too invested in these
regal fulcrum
Mr. Plural is not in the sheet Jen
alright thats one of the things i needed but not what i expected to get
twin bay
Easiest Mr. & Mrs. Recipe I have
Mr. The + Tilde = Mr. ~
regal fulcrum
ooo ty
here we go!
I changed a recipe that was different in the text lineage, added the item found by natasquare for the visual lineage credit at the top and added the "Might Be Different" element found by Brentbe
Here's the text lineage :
#speedrunning message
if i forgot anything / anyone please say!
regal fulcrum
here we go!
I changed a recipe that was different in the text lineage, added the...
vivid canyon
Mr. Plural is not in the sheet Jen
i don't know i was just sending what i have :C
regal fulcrum
i don't know i was just sending what i have :C
im not blaming you!!
aaaa sorry ><
i didnt mean it this way
tribal copper
Yo how do you get ‘
regal fulcrum
Yo how do you get ‘
its in the sheet
tribal copper
Where
regal fulcrum
in the unicode sheet
regal fulcrum
#1206592567622373446 message
tribal copper
https://discord.com/channels/1203527044957208596/1206592567622373446/12164363268...
Just tell me the recipe
regal fulcrum
brother i literally linked you a message containing the recipe
huh
uhhh
i have to do the same recipe twice
to get a result
yall ever seen that bug / thing?
like i put the two items i wanna merge together
they blink for a while
give nothing
i put it on again and it immediately gives the result
nvm im not alone according to general
slate whale
i have to do the same recipe twice
soemtimes even more than twice
regal fulcrum
mhmh
regal fulcrum
more korean
regal fulcrum
someone got Unicode Old Italic?
graceful marsh
U Linear B + U Old Hungarian
regal fulcrum
i dont have linear b
graceful marsh
Here
regal fulcrum
oh god
sage wren
G
regal fulcrum
hello?????
regal fulcrum
three emoji FDs!!!
glacial horizon
posting the crafting tree for this one because it's stupid lol
WAIT
IT'S IN QUPTES
thin warren
could you not get that one out of quotes ?
glacial horizon
SHIT
spice lark
lmao
regal fulcrum
LMAO
glacial horizon
I THOUGHT I HAD IT AAAAAAAAAAAAA 😭
the version in quotes is dead too yaaaaaaaaaay
regal fulcrum
another emoji FD
glacial horizon
if anybody thinks they can get the periods off of "..u-1ee0" please do bc i've tried every combination of delete i have access to
i'm moving onto 1ef
glacial horizon
TY
i'd never think of that lol
also .u-1ee0 + delete last character gives you u-1ee0 apparently
regal fulcrum
another regional indicator
thin warren
LATIN CAPITAL LETTER G WITH MACRON
LATIN CAPITAL LETTER O WITH HORN AND TILDE
VEDIC TONE RIGVEDIC KASHMIRI INDEPENDENT SVARITA
LATIN CAPITAL LETTER O WITH HORN AND DOT BELOW
LATIN CAPITAL LETTER O WITH HORN AND HOOK ABOVE
regal fulcrum
3 left
regal fulcrum
LATIN CAPITAL LETTER G WITH MACRON
LATIN CAPITAL LETTER O WITH HORN AND TILDE
VE...
did you add comments on sheet
if not please do 🙏
thin warren
wdym
regal fulcrum
go on unicode sheet
add a comment under the recipe part of the characters you got
linking this message
thin warren
alr 1 sec
regal fulcrum
also if you could edit it with the recipe to Ancient Unifont that'd be nice
never seen it before
glacial horizon
there's definitely a lot i need to add to the spreadsheet and i keep putting it off :(
spice lark
Turn This Into Emoji, the actual element doesnt always work, but the enquoted and hashtag versions seem to work fairly well
thin warren
also if you could edit it with the recipe to Ancient Unifont that'd be nice
#1206592567622373446 message
it was glowys recipe
regal fulcrum
can you put it in the message 🙏
glacial horizon
what unicode block do you think would turn an element into that elements emoji? for example U+2124's emoji is ℤ (bc that's it's unicode code) but combining it w/ fromcharcode and other things don't give ℤ. So what if there was an element that just turned it into it's emoji?
regal fulcrum
sorry its just to make sure nothing is lost
mhhh
@graceful marsh does Llama know the emoji of the items it receives in a craft?
regal fulcrum
like when i do a craft with U+10. Is it aware of ❌
attached to the item
do you think we could get a command to return the emoji as an item
graceful marsh
Theoretically it shouldn't, because the endpoint only records the input elements
regal fulcrum
mhmh
graceful marsh
But if quantum entanglement is true
regal fulcrum
wait how does quantum entanglement fit in all this
how does it help for this emoji thing
graceful marsh
Self-attention on its own DB
regal fulcrum
mhmh? but if the craft received is exclusively text, does it matter?
graceful marsh
If that's what entanglement is and not, like, just repetition of data
glacial horizon
As in the emojis attached to the item or the name of the emoji?
emoji attatched to the item
regal fulcrum
is the emoji also stored in the db
graceful marsh
Presumably yes, because it's returned as well
glacial horizon
is the emoji also stored in the db
the emoji is shown in the save files so i'd assume so
graceful marsh
Savefile technically operates differently - FDs for example are not stored globally
It's entirely possible emojis are stored differently, but it's unlikely
glacial horizon
also an element like that could get us things that are impossible now
like period
regal fulcrum
uhhh
does someone have the visual lineage to U+++0
and U+++1
it's not in the guide
and that surprises me
considering how important this meta is
glacial horizon
I have U+++1 not U+++0
regal fulcrum
like period
no
i means U+++1 and U+++2
btw sorry
period is not possible not because of crafts
but because of how the AI and game treats replies
glacial horizon
oooh
regal fulcrum
gimme a moment serdaise
narrow pollen
.mr replaces the entirety of immord :D just .mr + Convertible = Mr. Convertible
makes it a LOT easier
glacial horizon
i means U+++1 and U+++2
regal fulcrum
ty!
glacial horizon
np!
regal fulcrum
@narrow pollen ^
narrow pollen
got it thank you!
glacial horizon
no prob!
i didn't know there was already a U+ element guide at the time so I made that when I made my own
narrow pollen
How do I get to U+++20 though D:
narrow pollen
sure?
glacial horizon
oops my bad, U+++2 recipe
narrow pollen
thank you :D
glacial horizon
np! :D
regal fulcrum
U+++[number] added to the guide!
narrow pollen
now I only need to get the 0 to become an a
glacial horizon
i doubt there's anything new on this but if there's anything i made on my guide that isn't on the official guide feel free to steal it https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ijsj56z8oJEChT178Qf0xEJSP6IrtW2VX-C76yY-l_Q/edit?usp=sharing
cedar cloak
.mr replaces the entirety of immord :D just .mr + Convertible = Mr. Convertible
convertible also makes it mr. convertible but i found that out way later
narrow pollen
ahh found the recipe to Utf-8 nvm
cedar cloak
i js never changed it
narrow pollen
convertible also makes it mr. convertible but i found that out way later
maybe I´ll do a tree soon
omg
I have 3/4 parts that I need
Now I need to figure out to get from U+1d20 to U+1d2a
somehow
@glacial horizon Can you help me with that
thin warren
can you not just repeatedly combine U+1d20 with itself or U+1 or something
glacial horizon
<@465267418797703168> Can you help me with that
once you get to U+1d29, do what you would normally do to increment to the next element, but if all routes fail by that point, do the "..u-" technique
narrow pollen
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Finally that took SOOO long
omfg
I´ve sat here for hours
narrow pollen
I´m trying to make a tree but Helper forgot how to do U-1 and I can´t find it
can someone pass it rq
narrow pollen
Brown + Seaplane = U-2
thank you!
ancient basin
epic
regal fulcrum
i wanted it very bad because a small obsession i've had are
"longest line of elements we have without interruption" in the sheet
like longest streak of checks
and 👏 was one hole in a long list
it is time
for me to leave
im waking up in probably like
3h
to travel to France for a week
i will be available on discord normally
but not in game
narrow pollen
Because of how weird the Convert to Unicode seemed, here is one that is a little shorter and more complete, the only things missing would be Put This in Quotation Marks, Hashtag The, and U+0000
regal fulcrum
wont be able to check sheet either since it doesnt load on phone
regal fulcrum
nice work Serdaise!
also a person in general asked a question that might interest yall
"What is the current longest lineage to a given element"
the longest i can think of is probably 🜿
narrow pollen
it has to be some unicode stuff, even if it´s just spamming things together it´s still technically making a larger tree
glacial horizon
It makes me want to set a random element goal so i can eventually achieve it and maybe say that it’s the longest lineage
graceful marsh
Pony Point of View sits quietly in the corner, plotting
lethal nymph
i have an algorithm that just pulls the most inefficient lineage ever for an item
glacial horizon
I wonder what those most inefficient lineage for ? is
lethal nymph
my save file doesn't have that much recipes for ?
graceful marsh
Neither does mine
lethal nymph
stuff with quotes usually yield very big lineages
glacial horizon
v true
graceful marsh
Do they really?
Given the newly optimised "alphabet" and the improvements to the two-letters?
lethal nymph
remember that i have a dumb algorithm, not an optimized one
it takes like every roundabout possible
graceful marsh
Oh sorry I thought you meant in general
lethal nymph
also i recently found out that i never made Plant with Water + Earth
it was Planana + Planana which needed quotes
regal fulcrum
mine are boring
narrow pollen
What I needed the notes for 👀
actually the h should be a B I think
in German we name them differently
lethal nymph
remember that i have a dumb algorithm, not an optimized one
for example here is an extremely long lineage for Natasquare :3
only 1261 steps
lethal nymph
exactly
junior gust
there's also a #1224526147203629130
that is basically trying to get your names in infinite craft
lethal nymph
i've been there since it started
junior gust
oh lmao
graceful marsh
Hm
lethal nymph
it's not even the longest, the recursion limit stops me
ancient basin
is there a way to get -B or -A ?
lethal nymph
that's just -alphabet
fast saddle
how do i get from smth like U+++XYZ to U+0XYZ
lethal nymph
u+0000?
cedar cloak
Because of how weird the Convert to Unicode seemed, here is one that is a little...
isn't that a slower u+1 and also most of those .mr can be replaced with mr. beast or something similar
narrow pollen
isn't that a slower u+1 and also most of those .mr can be replaced with mr. beas...
.mr is literally just .m +.r, Mr. Beast would take longer to get
cedar cloak
also is this a faster u+0000 or nah
narrow pollen
and works less often
narrow pollen
isn't that a slower u+1 and also most of those .mr can be replaced with mr. beas...
slower than what
rich roseBOT
cedar cloak
➕ + U-1
narrow pollen
oh yea then it´s a bit faster, I was never able to figure out how to get to the plus symbol because I didn´t expect it to be lineage lmao
that´s why I did the hard way
cedar cloak
also is this a faster u+0000 or nah
can someone find if this is a slightly faster u+0000 please
vivid canyon
i'm new to this unicode stuff. this is so goofy
thin warren
make it as "..u-XXXX" first, get rid of the periods, and then put u+0 into it and itll give you the code most times
vivid canyon
why do i need to make "..u-xxxx" first?
thin warren
it is 1000x easier to get u+xxxx if you start with "..u-xxxx" first
much more consistent
thin warren
most times you have to fight for it if you do "u+xxxx"
vivid canyon
how much did people really try it though? most of the ones in my img are FDs
thin warren
mostly everyone goes through "..u-xxxx" instead of doing what you're doing
or they get a unicode out and then increment it by 1
vivid canyon
but i'm feeling like people did not try that much? 😭
vivid canyon
i just combined them into each other like in the img and it worked fine but idk
thin warren
are you able to gets letters in your unicodes easily like that
vivid canyon
i have no clue
vivid canyon
that would probably be an issue i imagine
i didn't even know unicodes could have that i'm a total noobie
i also did not realise they combine pretty easily outside of quotes as well so i'm just doing that now 💀
thin warren
you can do that as well
that also has the same issue with not being able to get letters very easily bc you get capitalized letters and the elements die
thin warren
u+1400 ?
thin warren
thin warren
but the recipe was asking for ü+1020 and i got that now
no need for unicode cree syllabics
vivid canyon
i don't actually have #fromcharcode yet 💀 i can go get it though
graceful marsh
Use our 65 step recipe!
vivid canyon
yeah i had fromcharcode so it was one step away haha 🤭
thin warren
idk how you consistently would get it in quotes though
vivid canyon
dunno about consistently, but perhaps randomly
i did it somehow with those serdaise emojis
alriiight letsgooo
thin warren
do we have a way to go from curly quotes back to straight quotes?
vivid canyon
I have not heard of any
vivid canyon
so with serdaise emojis it seems i managed to get it into a hashtag with some other random word, then i got the hashtagged word and emoji into quotes, and then from quotes deleted the word until it was just the emoji in quotes
Dunno if it will work again
uhh
i dont think that helps
okay?!
edit: llama HATEs ᐀ it keeps removing it
thin warren
nice
glacial horizon
I'm making notes on the U+1aXX, bXX, etc. codes as I make em
thin warren
would Currency Sign be helpful at all ?
glacial horizon
I'm making notes on the U+1aXX, bXX, etc. codes as I make em
trying to give out every recipe seems like it'll be hell so I'm writing down which ones are dead, which ones haven't been found, and which ones have to be made from scratch aka can't be incremented
chilly fulcrum
and this is all made with the "..u" strat?
glacial horizon
from scratch means it's using the "..u" strat
otherwise it was made by combining other unicode stuff together
chilly fulcrum
yeah just was clarifying that stuff you are combining together is made with "..u" right
so that its not dead
glacial horizon
yeah but one of the incremented elements ended up dead somehow???? U+1ab8 + U+1ab9 = U+1abA which is dead
that's the weirdest one i've got so far
vivid canyon
okay?!
edit: llama HATEs ᐀ it keeps removing it
yikes i need to sleep but, almost have it in quotes
thin warren
yeah but one of the incremented elements ended up dead somehow???? U+1ab8 + U+1a...
its because if you increment u+xxx9 by one, it changes the last character to a capital A which kills the element
glacial horizon
its because if you increment u+xxx9 by one, it changes the last character to a c...
not always actually! i've been doing it with the U+1axx-exx elements so far and that's the only time it killed it
idk but i guess the more complex unicodes are somehow kinder with capitalization
exotic monolith
how do you make
➕
i cant make it and i need it
for u+0001
thin warren
plus + unicode
exotic monolith
@thin warren how do u get to like u+2000 im stuck at u+0009 idk how to get higher
thin warren
are you using "..u-"
thin warren
exotic monolith
oh ok
exotic monolith
how to get "iu" @thin warren
exotic monolith
i see where it says the "alphabet" but idk how to get i and u together @thin warren
thin warren
click the 2 letter alphabets spreadsheet
thin warren
#1213692353223589888 message
exotic monolith
@thin warren how did u get delete the hyphens
nova umbra
delete the hyphen + plural
exotic monolith
how to get delete the hyphen
thin warren
thin warren
high definition screenshot right there
cedar cloak
is "..u-" an actual strategy or is u+++ infinitely better
thin warren
..u- is infinitely better
cedar cloak
in what way?
thin warren
#1206592567622373446 message
cedar cloak
oh for hexadecimal
i think u+++ is a lot more convenient for non hexadecimal but idk cause i don't have "..u-"
can you confirm
thin warren
idk i dont have u+++
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but like you can legit just put a number in and then take it right back out
cedar cloak
the more strategies the merrier ig
thin warren
very true
this is why theres a trillion different elements dedicated to trying to put a hashtag on something
night dragon
uh how to get u+3000
exotic monolith
@thin warren i was wondering how u turned the "prepend-hyphen" into the #prepend-hyphen it doesnt really say
thin warren
add hashtag
exotic monolith
ok
thin warren
"prepend-hyphen" + hashtag = #prepend-hyphen
exotic monolith
@thin warren how did u get the quote marks on the 2000
thin warren
just increment numbers in quotes
exotic monolith
ok
thin warren
you can do this with more numbers than 1 as well
exotic monolith
@thin warren for some reason the delete spreadsheet is bugged
i need "delete the"
and it doesnt have the recipe in there
thin warren
idk cause i got that before i had helper
exotic monolith
can u pull up "delete the" in ur game and than use violent monkey infinite craft helper to see the recipe
chilly fulcrum
oh is prepend hyphen how you guys add "-"
thin warren
correct
chilly fulcrum
well its more appending it
thin warren
prepend = append in this game unless its hashtags
chilly fulcrum
see ive been trying this whole time to get "--" down to "-"
and "--" has ignored all 200+ of my deletes
thin warren
thats how you get almost the entire "alphabet-"
no yeah just do "..u" + prepend hyphen
thin warren
glgl
chilly fulcrum
theres some tech we used to get fromcharcode in really low steps now
not involving quotes or mr
exotic monolith
rubkis u know how to get "delete the"?
chilly fulcrum
but its very trial and error
exotic monolith
its not in the delete spreadsheet foir some reason
chilly fulcrum
depends which one you are using
exotic monolith
for*
chilly fulcrum
theres 2 delete sheets
exotic monolith
oh ok
chilly fulcrum
confusing, ik
theres one called "deleting everything"
but i think the better one is the other one
thin warren
the delete people need to get it together tbf
exotic monolith
can u send it or where is it
chilly fulcrum
ill send a link
exotic monolith
alr ty
exotic monolith
nah thats the one that doesnt have
delete the
it says u need
delete the
and
chilly fulcrum
59
exotic monolith
delete the periods for delete the period
exotic monolith
ye maybe idk
chilly fulcrum
Delete First + Period
chilly fulcrum
fair
exotic monolith
ty for helping
chilly fulcrum
@thin warren if you have "--" try and use deletes to get it to "-" i want to see if you can do it - because "--" kicks my ass
ik now i will do prepend hyphen
chilly fulcrum
yeah hang on
"++" + -
= "--"
"--" is so sticky
it ate all my deletes but a few, and the few it didnt eat ended up like this: "--Delete Fourth Sentence"
exotic monolith
@thin warren how do u get a hashtag on a number
thin warren
idk ive never put hashtags on numbers
exotic monolith
i need #0.
thin warren
0 + Prepend Hashtag = #0
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chilly fulcrum
wow its hard
its deleteing middle letters a lot
"aapr" + "e" or "ep" does append e and ep but it removes the r
"aprepnd" ok well its getting there
exotic monolith
@thin warren how do u put c++ in quotation marks
chilly fulcrum
hmm damn - still i am not good enough to make a word on demand
thin warren
<@574278259127353361> how do u put c++ in quotation marks
idk i dont have it
thin warren
hmm damn - still i am not good enough to make a word on demand
you want me to send you the lineage ?
chilly fulcrum
hmm i think practicei s better
but i can see a lot of what im getting are not FD
so someone has tried before
"aprepe nd" for example isnt an FD
but its dead
but if you have more tips or hints for me
if i still cant ill go find lineage
exotic monolith
how to make ++
thin warren
if you have "aprep" thats a good start
chilly fulcrum
i do have that - this is what i have when i search "apre:
although i havent graduated to multi words yet so the space could be tricky
thin warren
you are very close to greatness with "aprep"
chilly fulcrum
lul
thin warren
idk if you know this or not
chilly fulcrum
yeah maybe idk i tried a lot
thin warren
but sometimes if you add real words to quoted elements
chilly fulcrum
sometimes it can quote them yes
thin warren
itll put the real word in quotes attached to the previous letters
thin warren
you are very close to greatness with "aprep"
cough
exotic monolith
does anyone have ++
thin warren
i dont
exotic monolith
or even better "++"
chilly fulcrum
"aprepend-hyphen" is where im up to
"++" is "+" + "+"
confusing right
"+" is "plus" + unicode
exotic monolith
oh is their another way to make U+0
chilly fulcrum
damn these deletes are underwhelming
exotic monolith
cuz thats all i need to get what ive been going for the past 6 hours
this is what i found
chilly fulcrum
"delete the P" gave me "end-hyphen"
exotic monolith
and i cant get "++"
chilly fulcrum
and ive also got "prep-hyphen"
both FD
so somehow nobody has fallen into those traps yet
but i did
thin warren
do you have "prepend-hyphen" ?
chilly fulcrum
no
thin warren
have you tried deleting the first character
chilly fulcrum
and how do you propose i make "prepend"
thin warren
i mean "aprepend" + delete first looks pretty good to me
you dont actually need "prepend" for this one though i confused my prepend recipes
chilly fulcrum
"aprepend-hyphen" is very resilient to deletes
its fine deleteing "aprep" and "end"
i have so many deletes its hard to test them all - so thats probably why delete first i didnt test
but somehow all the times a delete has worked it has been an FD
so somehow everyone knows something i dont and can work out which delete to use
graceful marsh
I only have 12 deletes pinned I think
thin warren
generally i only use delete first or delete first character or delete first letter
they are the most consistent
delete first character is the best imo
chilly fulcrum
delete first character does seem to have a decent hitrate... when its in lineages anyway
when i try it on my own its very rarely a hit
but yes of course i will try things like "delete first" "delete hyphen" "delete the quotation marks" first
graceful marsh
Generally I try the triple threat of First, First Letter and First Character
chilly fulcrum
then move onto things like "delete the P" (actually deleted something as opposed to the other deletes)
chilly fulcrum
well yeah here "delete the P" made "end-hyphen"
thin warren
or something like that
chilly fulcrum
actually the only deletes that have worked thus far (not worked as in did what they say but worked as in deleted something as opposed to doing nothing) are "Delete the (letter)"
graceful marsh
Wow
You're playing a parallel game
chilly fulcrum
this is on "aprepend-hyphen" it seems quite resilient
graceful marsh
I don't think I've used a delete the letter since mid-March
exotic monolith
what word would i combine with "++c" to get "c++"?
if i get this my 6 hour grind is overr
chilly fulcrum
i dont want to use delete letetrs
but when the others just do nothing idk
also how does this token behaviours work? is it because Q is most likely to just be a single token
as in the token is just only the letter Q
like "Delete First Character" on "aprepend-hyphen" leads to an FD
so clearly there is something others know that I dont
for nobody to have tried that yet
Delete First -> gives Nothing
Delete First Character -> FD
Delete First Letter -> gets eaten
how nobody has tried delete first character i will never know
hmm is this supposed to be close or is this a troll dead end?
thin warren
"aprepend-hyphen" appears to be a dead end
chilly fulcrum
guess i will build up hyphen then too
cant have it easy by just adding the word hyphen
thin warren
make "prepend"
thin warren
you wont want to get a space in the quotes
if you have a space in quotes the element will be dead
(generally)
chilly fulcrum
is that a guarantee
i dont know the rules for when it is and isnt dead in quotes
"prepend." i have now
thin warren
unless every word other than the first has its first letter capitalized while in quotes then it will be dead
so you would have to make "prepend Hyphen" for it to not be dead which is very inconsistent
chilly fulcrum
how would one even begin to try make such a thing
thin warren
luck
thin warren
yeah but with chromatic you still get a the at the front
lethal nymph
chromatic is stuck with the
graceful marsh
Oh right
graceful marsh
Is it actually consistent?
thin warren
eisern space strat does actually work a lot
graceful marsh
Oh wow
chilly fulcrum
what is that
graceful marsh
Might need to get in on that then
thin warren
i used it to get Hi Chat :3
lethal nymph
u+0020 appends space
chilly fulcrum
meanwhile me trying to build up "hyphen"
thin warren
hes trying to do it on his own rn
chilly fulcrum
"ah" + "y" = "ay" love to see it
thin warren
and eisern space strats do actually work for this which is kinda funny
chilly fulcrum
did you just test
thin warren
rubiksmath dont open
chilly fulcrum
if the guidance involves principles and intuition and logic based on patterns instead of just the solution im happy
thin warren
not exactly how its supposed to work but it definitely does work
graceful marsh
Eisern space strat basically makes "words " like that
thin warren
"xxxx" + U+0020 = "xxxx " yes
but it does actually work for capitalizing the second word
chilly fulcrum
i see
thin warren
which can be very helpful
chilly fulcrum
provided you can actually delete the quotation marks
graceful marsh
Oh that's the easy part really
thin warren
it really is yeah
chilly fulcrum
i find i can almost never do it
it just ignores
Delete The Quotation Marks? cute
ill ignore u
graceful marsh
I wouldn't recommend DTQM for getting working elements
thin warren
you can just mr. -ify things and it might work
graceful marsh
I've accidentally killed a few
chilly fulcrum
provided you can remove the Mr.
chilly fulcrum
i dont think 'Delete The Mr' or 'Delete The Mr.' has come through a single time yet for me
prepend closing parenthesis damn did you build that one up too
thin warren
indeed
chilly fulcrum
sounds absolutely impossible
thin warren
the plural form of that one as well as opening parenthesis/es
chilly fulcrum
3-5 letter combinations are hard enough
chilly fulcrum
well i got "pH" by "hp" + reverse
so i got 2 letters
"aphen" ok wait i dont want the a there do i
"hen"
is what i get from reasonable deletes
"py" wont reverse for me tho
but "hpy" did reverse into "yph"
ah dang
autocomplete
"hypothesis"
"ahoyphen"
im gonna hope thats close enough
"hoyphen"
yoo lets go i made "hyphen"
wait
why make "prepend"
if im gonna run into alphabet issues
at least "hyphenprepend" reversed into "prepend-hyphen"
chilly fulcrum
trying to delete quotation marks rn
of course delete the hyphen deletes the word hyphen
bruh
thin warren
lol
do you know any strats for deleting quotes other than putting in deletes and praying ?
thin warren
probably the best strat is to get a hashtag on it
chilly fulcrum
like yesterday laurasia was able to simultaneously add a word and delete the quotes in one go which i have seen before but forcing that seems beyond possibility
#prepend-hyphen
thin warren
good
graceful marsh
Are you talking about The Legend of Hank?
thin warren
who is this legendary hank man
graceful marsh
I made Paws Of Fury: The Legend Of Hank yesterday
thin warren
OH
lethal nymph
btw get 'alphabet' if you haven't already
graceful marsh
Just like the Ian that slept with your sister's best friend eh?
lethal nymph
hank is canon server lore now
lethal nymph
with only one quote?
yes it's good for appending to the end
in case normal "alphabet" doesn't work
exotic monolith
how do i turn my U+d into something like U+d152 or whatev er
chilly fulcrum
ok
lethal nymph
the 「alphabet」 also does that but less consistently
chilly fulcrum
so what was i doing wrong in attempting to build up the words - as i said its hard enough to get 3 - 5 letters right
exotic monolith
how do i turn my U+d into something like U+d152 or whatever @thin warren
chilly fulcrum
i guess i cant really say what my attempts were
but there was a few hundred
over time yes i will start to have more 2 or 3 letter combos on hand
for now though i still am having to make them
maybe they are like 20x more consistent and thats part of the reason
so how did you go about logically trying to make all those variants of Prepend Closing Parenthesis
"prepend." is existing infrastructure now so i can use it
not that i would want to
yeah actually why did you want me to make "prepend"
isnt that just asking for it to not work
chilly fulcrum
and how would i know to try .letter - those rarely work
thin warren
so how did you go about logically trying to make all those variants of Prepend C...
already had "aprepend", and an easy way to make multi word elements with quotes is from separating each word with a period. by adding a longer string with a period infront i can be more confident that i will be able to add letters onto the end.
additionally when you have an element in quotes with periods, theres a decent chance you can just put in a word and it will automatically separate it with a quote. i tried parenthesis, didnt work, so i tried parent (which contains 6/11 characters needed for parenthesis). i then added on thesis which rounded off the word parenthesis (with a typo, but it does not matter bc the ai will usually autocorrect it)
i then took the quotes off using commonly used methods
thin warren
and how would i know to try .letter - those rarely work
i always try them. theyre super good
chilly fulcrum
right and i guess you just lookup the recipes for those words like parent if you dont have them - i guess for a bit of fun you can try yourself although with such a large save file it starts to become less fun
so right now im trying to add "clo"
or something of that nature
"aprependclo"
i guess i need the dot
thin warren
try to separate the words with periods
chilly fulcrum
yeah i wanted to try make losing
or lose
but i think i forgor how to make basic elements without looking them up 💀
exotic monolith
doess anyone have "\the plural"
chilly fulcrum
wait so when trying to add words did you have like "aprepend."
or just "aprepend"
thin warren
"aprepend" + .xxxxx
chilly fulcrum
.word ..... hmmm
chilly fulcrum
not familiar with how to get . letters to do anything you want
most of the time adding .letter to .letter is another .letter
thin warren
do you have two letter dotted elements
chilly fulcrum
i have some
chilly fulcrum
right with that - yeah true i have used that
lovely it ate my dot
"aprepend.c" + "los" = "aprependlos"
love to see it
thin warren
usually getting the second word on is the hardest
lethal nymph
always try to add the word out of quotes before anything else
works surprisingly well
thin warren
this as well
chilly fulcrum
getting the word out of quotes is not always easy
sometimes you have to build that up as well
thin warren
normally it is
chilly fulcrum
if its rare enough
lethal nymph
no i mean like add Closing to your "aprepend.c"
thin warren
if your making multi word strings then usually the words are pretty common
otherwise you can just spell the words out with quotes and then take them out of quotes
lethal nymph
also learn chromatic strat lol
thin warren
chromatic strat is so goofy but yes i agree
chilly fulcrum
"aprepend.closin" + "g" = "aprependclosing"
love it
anyone know why it eats the dot half the time
lethal nymph
i mean you don't really need the . if you're lucky enough
thin warren
this is also true
lethal nymph
just hit it with Add Spaces or With Spacing variants
or just add parts of the phrase you're making
chilly fulcrum
let me guess those are half built up too?
thin warren
wdym
graceful marsh
It's not even lucky really
Hashtagged forms just love to give spacing (even when I don't want them to)
chilly fulcrum
damn
graceful marsh
||Bloody Jen Pai||
thin warren
ikr
chilly fulcrum
"aprepend.closing.pare" + thesis = "aprepend.closing.parethesis"
i love autocomplete
lethal nymph
same vibes
thin warren
true
lethal nymph
just add Prepend to that?
chilly fulcrum
maybe you knew somehow that the deletes would all just give Nothing
thin warren
i did it differently but that should still work