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[stray bane]

Yes, with the bot progression option

[hasty umbra]

As in its already existing?

Or you plan/want to

[stray bane]

Yeah

I'd be surprised if this was the case

[hasty umbra]

And im assuming SAIN messes with that due to its personalities

[cinder dagger]

question - should I disable PMC personality changes if using SAIN?

[stray bane]

Most likely yeah

[stray bane]

Not to do with bot progression

[hasty umbra]

I mean your RAID type look to the pmcs

Doesn't sain not have it own logic for gear and weapons?

Or does realism mod just handle that

[stray bane]

Not to do with bot progression

[stray bane]

Nope

[edgy frigate]

In what way does the med system not sync up in fika, as in I can’t see how my buddies been hurt or as in having the med system on will cause fika desync. Or is it both?

[frank ledge]

does realism conflicts with armory? cause i cant move whenever i loot anything that armory addded... ex: velociraptor 7.62, spear .300

o yea they do

[stray bane]

It causes errors

[stray bane]

You must learn to read, like the mod page or the many comments regarding it. You just need a compatibility patch, one for WTT was uploaded to the hub recently

[frank ledge]

yeah i just rechecked at the WTT discord cus it no show up here

[hasty umbra]

I see thanks

by the way

is it possible for to tweak the recoil settings for an indiviual weapon?

The M60 seems far to bouncy for almost 9kg

[tropic grotto]

C:\SPT HEADLESS\user\mods\SPT-Realism\db\templates\weapons\MachinegunTemplates.json

[hasty umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-why-hes-the-goat-mvp-the-goat-gif-27042870

Thanks srsly thats actually goated

[sturdy cloud]

Realism bros, compatibility plugin for stances (which is not out yet) isnt necessarily needed for the game to be playable on multiplayer, correct?

It just wont show animations and stuff for the other players in the raid, yeah?

[cinder dagger]

yes at least as far as my experience goes so far

[tropic grotto]

yep

[sturdy cloud]

Awesome, thanks

[tropic grotto]

well except for hazards/meds

but I don't use med changes

[sturdy cloud]

What does hazard compatibility mean?

Would ever player have different hazard zones?

[tropic grotto]

afaik they don't sync correctly

one guy has em one guy doesn't

[sturdy cloud]

Fuck

I see

[drowsy trout]

@tropic grotto https://github.com/LevelCrush/RealismSync/issues/1 I guess this was related to what you mentioned in #❓questions message

[tropic grotto]

yo?

[drowsy trout]

@tropic grotto was perusing the channel here and it seems to be an on and off occurance, notably with fika headless

annoying af tho. So many raids ruined when my pockets and even ammo betrays me

[tropic grotto]

I don't get such extreme desyncs

only mags and once in a 100 raids a cartridge won't sync

usually with an open bolt weapon

[drowsy trout]

I usually alt+F4 at the first sign of trouble

[tropic grotto]

lmao

[drowsy trout]

mag doesn't load, or magpack

I'm like

fuck

[tropic grotto]

I'm not loading 10k bundles because of a desynced mag

[drowsy trout]

I tried dropping bugged mags, unloading it, but then it just leaves me with a pile of bullets that can't go back in,

discarding it and picking it up again doesn't seem to fix.. but I haven't done the quick reload drop you suggested yet

[cinder dagger]

sometimes it works sometimes not

I just leave the broken mag on the ground and thats it

[fading wyvern]

Is this FIKA plugin that needs to be updated required to play with FIKA? Or does it just mess up meds syncing but is otherwise playable?

[tropic grotto]

its playable

[clever pawn]

Im not using med changes or hazards and its been perfectly fine for me.

[drowsy trout]

@tropic grotto you just saved a raid, mag faffed up, did quick reload and picked it up again

[tropic grotto]

Yep

works often

[drowsy trout]

Still inconvenient but atleast my pockets don't get completely trashed trying to fix it however I did before

[cinder dagger]

wait what? whats the method you guys use to pass desynced mags?

whats this quick reload thing?

[tropic grotto]

#❓questions message

[cinder dagger]

ohhhh very nice

I will try that the next time it happens

thanks!

[dapper flint]

Does anyone run this with MOAR and FIKA and still get ai to spawn?

[cinder dagger]

I was but changed to ABPS yesterday

but MOAR was working though

[junior nymph]

Did you disable bot spawning on Realism?

[clever pawn]

Yes. If you are using a different bot spawning tool disable Reealisms spawning.

[north crescent]

If I use FIKA with a headless (one pc to play the game and one pc to run the headless) and I'm the only one playing will hazards and meds work? or does it only become an issue when multiple people play at the same time ?

[halcyon vapor]

@north crescent Hazards/Medical don't sync yet if I remember correctly. A FIKA sync plugin will come in time.

[north crescent]

@halcyon vapor Exactly... that's why I'm asking. If I'm the only player there shouldn't be any issues right?

[kindred hamlet]

Meds are throwing errors with FIKA according to Fontaine but hazards should be fine if you’re alone in my experience. The issue with hazards is that it doesn’t synch across all clients without a patch.

[earnest verge]

Someone probably already asked this but i couldn't find it soo: When using realism on Coop, all players need to configure Realism's settings for it to take effect or does it work if only the host do it?

[stiff quiver]

You're talking about the configs in the .exe app right? Assuming so then no, only the person/computer that is hosting the server needs to set them.

As a reminder, everything in the server folder only applies to the server. This includes these realism configs, since the .exe is in that folder

[earnest verge]

yes thats it, thank you

[drowsy trout]

Interesting, does anyone have issues with mags/ammo becoming stuck using FIKA? I remember someone said it was an old bug issue with realism. I may have found a solution

So if you're using any mods that clean up corpses at regular intervals, apparently that puts you at a much higher risk of your mags and ammo becoming stuck

[cinder dagger]

Me and my group experience this but we don't use any cleaner mods whatsoever.

[clever pawn]

Same

[cinder dagger]

afaik we have to wait for the sync plugin to get updated.

[drowsy trout]

I've removed any corpse cleaning mod and it seemed to have alleviated all mag desyncs

Been couple days now, dunno

Perhaps any mod that forcibly removes an object after a set time for garbage collection may put you at higher risk

[tropic grotto]

what did you remove

[drowsy trout]

BDSM

[cinder dagger]

Interesting. I am not using any of that yet it still happens sometimes.

[stray bane]

It's likely due to network sync code execution timing being thrown off by changing the speed of animations

Though that would have to be confirmed by looking at how BSG handles that because it would be weird if it was the case

[stiff quiver]

If it can help, I also encountered the bug in the past (3.10) without the corpse cleaning mod. It appeared to be worse when the server was under heavier load, but that's anecdotal. I only had it happen when using a dedicated client.
Also, for some reason, I was the only one experiencing this bug... I was the hosting the server and dedicated, playing on another pc on the same network. I don't understand why this would happen, but I had the bug happen a couple of time per raid for me, while my friends never had it... weird

The plugins we used were shared from me to them directly, so there was no mod discrepancy there

[stray bane]

Maybe you had different configs? You can change reload speed via multipliers

[tropic grotto]

I had it happen on 3.8 and 3.9 too, but it only happened to my friend, no headless, I was the host PC. Identical configs and mods.

Now that I use headless and I'm a client it happens to me too

[floral grove]

Is there a plugin that allows you to sync Fika and Realism? So you can see other players' hand positions?

[cinder dagger]

We are waiting on that.

[stray bane]

Is anyone working on it?

[tropic grotto]

No, but we're all waiting on it

[cinder dagger]

😂

[digital lagoon]

Is there some specific way to install Realism with the Headless Server, or does Realism not work for Headless? I installed Sain, Acid's Bot Placement, Waypoints, Big Brain and Realism on the Headless server and it seems that it desyncs pretty bad and randomly. Turned off Spawn settings in Realism to not conflict with Acid's Mod as well. Without Realism it runs perfectly.

[scenic anvil]

Unless I'm mistaken, im pretty sure we are waiting on a Fika Compat patch to get all the desyncs fixed. Or maybe that's just med changes 🤔

[digital lagoon]

It does work perfectly without Headless at least.

[kindred hamlet]

Works great with headless too. Just no hazard zones or med changes, apparently meds are causing errors

[dapper flint]

Im trying to find the problems Realism has with fika right now. Is it anything major

[cinder dagger]

I have desyncs and med changes and hazard zones are off. Using headless.

[gaunt musk]

Reload changes have issues afaik

[kindred hamlet]

ah that must have something to do with mags breaking occasionally

[cinder dagger]

Ill try turning that off and see if it changes anything

[dapper flint]

the only thing i play without is hazard zones. and that's only because the ai cant avoid them without dying. just gonna play with fika and hope for the best

[cinder dagger]

I tried turning off reload speed changes but the desync still happens.

[stray bane]

What desync?

[gaunt musk]

I'm assuming they are talking about reloads bugging a mag slot, forcing 1 round to be loaded at a time in the mag or preventing anything from being put into that bugged mag slot. I've seen it since 3.9 and beyond iirc

[stray bane]

If disabling the variable reload speed doesn't work then I'm unsure how realism is affecting this. Maybe manual chambering

[stiff quiver]

Check out this issue on the sync plugin if you haven't already, it pretty much supports your theory. I'm not the one who reported it, but I was in contact with @lone talon trying to figure this out

https://github.com/LevelCrush/RealismSync/issues/1

[stray bane]

Thanks for that, makes a lot of sense. Hopefully if they get back to working on it this will work

In the meantime I recommend everyone disable reload and chambering

[cinder dagger]

I'll try that and report tomorrow.

[digital lagoon]

Yeah I will give this a try tonight, but to give a better explanation of the desyncs. What happens is, the beginning of the round will start ok but eventually, and randomly, things will start to desync and slow down. Looting will increasingly become slower where items blink in their slot and take 5+ seconds to transfer. You will shoot a bot and they will take no damage and just stare at you and eventually the bullets will hit you 10 - 20 seconds later. Both me and my friend will also desync between each other, he will see me die but I will be alive on my screen or I will be in a completely different position on the map on his side. So Player Position Desyncs, Item Looting gets very slow, and bots desync.

[kindred hamlet]

Interesting, I’m not experiencing any of that with realism and Fika headless. It might be network related honestly

[digital lagoon]

I was thinking that, I am not sure if Realism adds to the Demand of the network.

But if it does, it possibly could be just my network on the Headless server not having strong enough or stable enough internet.

[kindred hamlet]

I wouldn’t think it does, it hasn’t in my experience and I have a very bad isp

Have you double checked your firewall settings?

[digital lagoon]

I am not sure it would be a firewall issue, everything works without realism installed.

But, the firewall is configured for the server regardless to fix port forwarding issues.

The Headless Server I have is on Fiber Internet and a very strong gaming PC. The only issue I could possibly could think of, the headless server is running on Wifi but at full bars, maybe Realism does make the network more demanding and Wifi isn't stable enough for it.

[stray bane]

That doesn't sound like a Realism issue

[cinder dagger]

Yeah I've also never experienced this. What happens to me is just mags refusing to load ammo on random.

[dapper flint]

"Enable Variable Reload Speed" and "Manual Chambering' right?

[cinder dagger]

Yeah I'm gonna try with both off today and report.

[cinder dagger]

Mag desync still happens with "Enable Variable Reload Speed" and "Manual Chambering" being off.

[stray bane]

I can't think what else could cause it. You're 100% sure it's disabled for everyone?

Are we 100% sure it's caused by realism?

[tropic grotto]

that's very much not realism

[tropic grotto]

In my experience disabling it only prolongs the effect, either way it bugs out eventually. I thought it was a UIfixes issue but I have reaload in-place disabled

[cinder dagger]

I'm using headless so the server side settings are disabled. Do the clients have to set up settings in the realism app as well?

[cinder dagger]

100% if I turn the server on without realism no such issues appear.

But then again this game (at least for me) is unplayable without realism so I prefer dealing with this annoying crap.

• I don't use the UIfixes mod

[tropic grotto]

the realismmodconfigGUI is server side

[cinder dagger]

This is what I know as well. So the server has it turned off.

[stray bane]

Try disabling malfunction changes too, that's all I can think of

[cinder dagger]

Will give it a try.

[verbal patrol]

Is there a way to make stances visible for all players?

[fast knoll]

theres a sync plugin but iirc not updated yet

[verbal patrol]

Where can I find it?

[fast knoll]

pins

[drowsy trout]

I find that increasing the bot amount on raids makes desync worse it seems.

[stray bane]

That would be to do with server performance rather than the mod itself I would imagine

[drowsy trout]

possibly, also observed with the aforementioned disabling in place swapping with UIfixes. but lately it seems to be behaving all of a sudden and my mags aren't breaking for past few days

[elder timber]

Any known bugs with Hazard Zones atm ? I’ve got Realism Sync working, but I’m only using it for the stances for now. Thinking of turning it on.

[cinder dagger]

realism sync?

where?

gib

[elder timber]

Haven’t pushed it to github yet but you can check it out here

#1422669781412348087 message

[zinc steeple]

Besides the fact they aren't just synced at all, nothing that I can think of. If we're talking about it in general, works just fine in singleplayer last time I've checked it.

[elder timber]

I thinkkkkk that it might conflict with spawn mods since I remember seeing somebody asked ab that

Like Bots that spawn in hazard zone and also radiation being a pain to treat

[zinc steeple]

Most likely. In previous test builds you could spawn straight in hazard zone.

1.6.0, Test build 5

Fixed spawning in hazards, should also prevent bots from doing so.

[elder timber]

Is this for Realism’s own bot spawn ?

[zinc steeple]

Again, most likely. I'd rather wait for Fontaine's confirmation on that.

If we're speculating, any other custom spawn logic besides Realism will break that rule since they must be synced in some way to prevent that from happening.

[elder timber]

Copy that

[verbal patrol]

How can I install these plugins? the realism sync and door dash

[stray bane]

The mod moves bots if they spawn inside one. Not sure what treatment has to do with it. As far as I'm aware there was progress made with syncing hazards

[elder timber]

Word. Gonna test it out and see.

Inb4 bots spawns in front of you cuz they’ve been moved from hazard

[stray bane]

As if I'm stupid? 😄

[elder timber]

Nah just running some scenarios in my head

[stray bane]

There are spawn points, the one furthest from player is selected

[elder timber]

I’m sure you’d thought of that

[stray bane]

How that works with headless or multiple players I don't know, but by default you spawn together

[elder timber]

Yeah it should work in most cases. Might get wonky if players are in opposite ends of Lighthouse and stuff

[stray bane]

It's not like they spawn in them that often so it should be fine

[elder timber]

Word

[tardy zealot]

What is even the issue with meds right now

it breaks a bunch of stuff and spams errors in my logs

Is it something that can be fixed with a sync plugin?

[kindred hamlet]

Theoretically but I don’t think anyone is working on it. It stated somewhere in the description that meds, hazards and stances don’t sync over fika

[digital lagoon]

Update on my Desync issues just in case anyone else had Desync Issues with the Headless Server. Turning off Medical Changes fixed all the desync I had.

[elder timber]

can you describe your desync ? I can attempt to add Med sync into Realism sync

[tardy zealot]

if you try to run with med changes you'll see constant errors in the logs etc

[digital lagoon]

If you scroll up just a bit, find my last few messages, it will have an explanation of the desync I was getting.

[stray bane]

Y'all need to learn to read

This is well known

[digital lagoon]

Yeah but the part I was confused about was that it wasn't working on the Headless server but was working when locally hosted with Med Changes on. I searched the Discord and couldn't confirm it was a headless issue, people were just saying it wasn't working.

[cinder dagger]

There is also some magazine desync that happens and bullets can't be loaded in mags. The same thing also causes rig slots to desync and render unusable as well sometimes. Allegedly its caused by the reload speed changes, manual chambering and malfunction changes.

[verbal patrol]

Is there a way to have realism and acid's spawning mod work together without disabling bot changes in realism?

[drowsy trout]

They spawn fine for me

[verbal patrol]

did you change anything in the config?

[drowsy trout]

Disable spawn tweaks in realism if you want apbs to manage spawn

They'll still spawn with realism loot just fine

[verbal patrol]

Yup, i think that was the issue. got pretty busy raids now after disabling spawn tweaks

[feral heart]

Glad I’m not the only one seeing this. Backpacks get weird sometimes on my end as well

[alpine needle]

In everyone's opinion is Apbs or MOAR the better spawner to use with realism? Or another?
(I liked and used swag donuts before but its not been updated as of yet and seems up in the air on if it will be)

[clever pawn]

I havent seen the mag/bullet desync since I turned off the reload options. I havent touched the malfunction one so... maybe its still out there lurking for me.

[cinder dagger]

Sadly that didn't work for me.. Unlucky

[cinder dagger]

I tested both and Ill say APBS

[alpine needle]

Appreciate the input

[clever pawn]

I would use ABPS though. APBS just does bot progression. 😄

[cinder dagger]

yeah whichever one was dealing with the spawns, that one

[kindred hamlet]

ABPS all the way

[alpine needle]

I used to run apbs so autocorrect is strong

[kindred hamlet]

It’s pretty hilarious that those mods are named so similarly just to cause confusion

[alpine needle]

Right? But I love all of acidphantasm's work so I dont mind

[kindred hamlet]

The GUIs for all acid’s mods are 11/10. Truly incredible work in general. The progression mod is pretty great too, almost as good as realism but I prefer realism’s bot kits a bit.

[alpine needle]

For sure. His gui and sain gui are great. I prefer realism as well in terms of kits, its one of the few cant play without mods for me. HollywoodFX mod is wonderful too.

[digital lagoon]

MOAR is really good, lot's of configuration options. The only reason I use ABPS now is because even with Starting PMC's on with MOAR, they never really started at the beginning of the match, it always took like 5 - 10 seconds before any spawned. So I switched to ABPS and they started spawning immediately as I spawned. ABPS also has a better GUI for configuring, so easy to use and understand.

[alpine needle]

Yeah i just got it running and I like it so far

[next cosmos]

and MOAR didn`t spawn pscavs

[tropic grotto]

If this mag desync shit ever gets solved I'm never leaving this version

[feral heart]

So disabling all the chambering/reload features helped a lot but as time progresses, it does come back. But yeah I’m in the same boat as you. Hoping the Realism Sync mod will fix it soon

[tropic grotto]

there already is a realism sync mod

and I'm using it, it doesn't target this issue

chambering/reload changes are too integral to realism+tarkovIRL that i would rather suffer the bug than turn them off

[feral heart]

Yeah that’s what I said. Hoping the Realism Sync mod gets updated to target that issue. I wouldn’t mind but it causes backpacks and rigs to be unusable

[elder timber]

Gonna dig into this reload desync thing once I'm done with my Revive mod

[kindred hamlet]

That mod has never existed actually

It’s always been like this with realism and Fika

[feral heart]

https://tenor.com/view/joe-biden-presidential-debate-huh-confused-gif-9508832355999336631

Who’s gonna tell him?

[kindred hamlet]

Who’s gonna tell me what?

No one ever made a realism and FIKA mag/slot/ammo sync patch. I’m 99% sure I would have used it with as deep as I’ve been into this for the past 4 versions

[feral heart]

https://tenor.com/view/veeunus-spongebob-spongebob-squarepants-squidward-done-gif-24674884

[kindred hamlet]

This guy must be new

Anyway

[feral heart]

Did you even read what I said?

Followed by the guy who updated it saying he’d work on it next..

[tropic grotto]

You misread what he said

[kindred hamlet]

The synch mod that exists is for stances. That is a completely separate issue

I don’t believe I did

[tropic grotto]

Alright maybe not misread, more like misunderstood what he meant

he thinks mag/ammo sync will be part of the same realism sync mod

[kindred hamlet]

Anyway I really do not care carry on

[tropic grotto]

and it could be

but it's probably gonna be seperate

moving on

[kindred hamlet]

That was my point

[elder timber]

I'll add it when I get to it

[feral heart]

Btw thankyou for your mods. Godsend.

[tropic grotto]

Whenever it happens, it's just good to know someone will do it eventually xD

[feral lagoon]

That was a bunch of realism talk there. Fucking circles

[kindred hamlet]

I hate it here

https://tenor.com/view/sad-kermit-kermit-the-frog-jump-off-gif-17801028

[stray bane]

Real

[opal burrow]

I can relate

[edgy frigate]

Spt 4.0 coming out soon. I must make myself a copy of spt, fika and realism 3.11 before it becomes hard to downgrade. Heads up to everyone here thinking of playing realism soon, make your install now!

[kindred hamlet]

🫩

[stray bane]

Realism won't update to 4.0 for a long time

3.11 is supposed to be LTS

[tropic grotto]

I really don't wanna play without those damn reload changes but these desyncs are getting much worse than before for me

[stray bane]

Then contribute to the sync mod or help find the cause 🤷‍♂️

[rugged dragon]

there is a fork for it, created last week, does anyone know anything about it?

[tardy zealot]

a magazine sync mod?

or the realismsync one made by Kobe

[rugged dragon]

realismsync

[turbid schooner]

011

[whole coyote]

I hope this is the right channel to ask, but is the latest realism update link borked only for me? gives me a not found page

[opal burrow]

Uh

what was actually broken?

[iron beacon]

https://github.com/space-commits/SPT-Realism-Mod-Client/releases/tag/v1.6.2 try this

[thin copper]

have anyone seen this before? I believed updating to 3.11.4 will fix this but doge bro is still there, I just downloaded the last realism version too.

[elder timber]

Bundle error from better rear sights most likely

[thin copper]

you nailed it, I forgot I downloaded that thing

ty

[elder timber]

bundle itself is fine. your file path maybe a bit too long

if it doesn't fix it then redownload and reinstall

[thin copper]

file path is.. average

I deleted BRS entirelly but doge still refuses to leave

should I reinstall realism?

[elder timber]

Check individual attachment to see which one is bugged and also check the logs

[thin copper]

I removed all compatibility patch and RSync, I found this while looking for the gas tube in the logs

this is the whole log

[tropic grotto]

https://youtu.be/8T1z25TkcJI?si=HRam7-t4B6OpPjT0&t=130 Your gas tube sir

Jesus it's been over 5 years since this trailer??

[thin copper]

a time traveler took a photo of my ak gas tube and placed it in the streets of tarkov trailer

I remember buying 16 gb ram so I can get into this map

[stray bane]

Still waiting on the destruction, clutter physics, light switches and verticality

Streets should have been a quarter the size but with lots of verticality

[tropic grotto]

I think this applies to a lot of tarkov maps

Biggest wish for me is to make ladders usable

game desperately needs more verticality

[gaunt musk]

They have animations for it they demonstrated back in like 2016

[tropic grotto]

I sometimes just wait 10 seconds pretend I'm climbing then freecam up a ladder

[stray bane]

I'm sure someone could make a jank mod where you can float up ladders with no animations

[tropic grotto]

Even that would scratch the itch

[feral lagoon]

Real issue is there collisions on the roof

[tropic grotto]

I didn't enoucnter many issues with freecam myself

[junior nymph]

Chef's kiss would be deployable ladders.

[clever pawn]

I talked with Jehree about this like a year ago. He seemed to think it would be pretty dirt simple to put triggers at top and bottom of ladders and just teleport up and down.

[stray bane]

Pretty much

[bitter bridge]

I demand that it adds a solid 50m/s acceleration to the player at the top of the ladder so that occasionally you just rocket up into the skies to return home to your people.

[tropic grotto]

That could work I guess

[tropic grotto]

but this would be peak

Sometimes you wanna just climb a shed on shoreline

[stray bane]

Needless to say it will take a long time to update to 4.0

I've the feeling I want to rewrite a lot of the mod, which would involve a lot of improvements

[drowsy trout]

Finishes 4.0 update.
SPT: WE PROUDLY PRESENT 4.1

[fast knoll]

5.0 will actually be written in php

[drowsy trout]

Does that mean will have to use php libraries to handle all the fuckery 😭

I did NOT enjoy managing a php library that handled users when I still hosted a Space Station 13 server

[stray bane]

Real

[kindred hamlet]

Migrate the entire game to Holy C

[stray bane]

For the good of yeh community we will rewrite the server in c++

[drowsy trout]

https://youtu.be/tas0O586t80?list=RDtas0O586t80

[fast knoll]

lua

https://tenor.com/view/yes-excited-rub-hands-rub-hands-gif-1072640976102390302

[drowsy trout]

Nah, fuck it all, return to form, Assembly rawdog

[stray bane]

Manually edit and distribute the assembly

[bitter bridge]

Brainfuck or gtfo

Or just write it in whitespace and print it out as backup

[opal burrow]

my intel is still bad at spt lol

after 4.0 even, so yeah the months of waiting uh....fuck intel?

[opal burrow]

Brainfuck is something that bsg would make a game with

[keen hornet]

Do the bots get the same effects from the health overhaul? Such as damaging their arms will slow down their ADS and reloads?

[stray bane]

No

Bots have their own logic to a large extent in general

That's more for SAIN to tackle and it probably does already

[north crescent]

Should APBS and ABPS load before or after Realism ?

[tropic grotto]

I prefer loading realism after many mods

But ideally I don't have ABPS/APBS interact with it at all

[north crescent]

Reason I ask is because I keep getting these yellow messages in the server... "bot: assault lacks a mod slot pool for item: 5b432c305acfc40019478128 item_equipment_facecover_gasmask_GP5" Not sure if gas masks are supposed to come with filters or if they might come with a filter. Also, not using fika for this particular issue.

[tropic grotto]

I just disable most changes relating to bots when using ABPS APBS sain and so on, no need for realism to do anything at that point

Someone else might know how to get it compatible

[north crescent]

Well the apbs progression has a check box for gas masks to populate, and the filters work when I wear them, just not sure if bots are supposed to generate filters , or just that they might.

[tardy zealot]

with APBS its a "might" I think?

[tardy zealot]

Anyone know whats going on

Server log is being absolutely spammed to shit

Seems like my friend insured something, we went to Labs, died, and now the server is having a seizure

I deleted all the insured items from my friends profile and now its okay again

[stray bane]

Very helpful

[astral dagger]

yo

you still exist?

[stiff quiver]

I'm guessing you're tagging for the plugin? Check out this thread: https://discord.com/channels/1202292159366037545/1422669781412348087, the sync plugin for 3.11.4 was updated in there, search the a bit convo a bit and you should find it

[halcyon vapor]

@astral dagger the plugin is out now

[astral dagger]

no i tagged him because i was playing with him alot when this project first came out

[kindred hamlet]

I’ve personally had some issues and inconsistencies with the 3.11.4 realism plugins

[halcyon vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/nikita-wave-escape-from-tarkov-gif-24108067 @astral dagger

[stiff quiver]

How so? It's been fine for me so far...

From what I see in the plugin Kobe's thread the only issue you've raised was the stance not replicating perfectly between players, which I personally haven't noticed. This is very far from being completely broken and honestly that kind of exaggeration feels disrespectful toward the author who's worked on it...

[halcyon vapor]

I second this. I have had good luck with the plugin. @stiff quiver

[kindred hamlet]

He wasn’t receptive to my reports and moved on to 4.0 so I have chosen not to report further issues

[stiff quiver]

There wasn't anything to go off in your report. You didn't provide detail and did not take the time to isolate the issue to just the plugin and realism. And even if you did, this has nothing to do with the way you were portraying the plugin before editing your message... He isn't beholden to you

[subtle lion]

Is there an example somewhere where I can see how to change bullet stats with a template.json? I'm trying to figure out what each json label should be for the different stats and where I should even put this to make sure it gets read in properly

(there isn't a bullet specific example in the example in the download)

[tiny ermine]

Have you encountered broken trader screens after a raid? For some reason, my friend and i on our fika server have broken traders after one raid with med changes enabled.
If med changes are not enabled, there is no issue

[stiff quiver]

Are you talking about the trader profile becoming white with weird names and non-interactable? If so then yes, both me and my friend encountered it, but I'm using some custom traders, so I was assuming the issue was more related to them...

Either way it hasn't happened that many time to me or my friend and a game restart fixes it, so I haven't looked into it much. I can't speak on what the cause of it is honestly

[tardy zealot]

Med changes are broken on FIKA atm, even with sync afaik

[kindred hamlet]

The current synch plugin for stances and hazards was causing this for me

[stiff quiver]

Are you sure? I don't see how the sync plugin could affect this, as it doesn't touch traders and is client side... I doubt it does anything when not in a raid

Looking at Kobe's thread apparently it's an issue with the realism mod itself

[kindred hamlet]

Yes I’m sure

It’s not realism. I have experienced it 0 times without the plugin over a 500 hr playthrough. There is only one other mod that caused this for me which was couturier and I haven’t used it in months.

If I install the plugin I have traders crashing once per session without fail. I can provide video proof of it but unfortunately everyone keeps telling me I’m a liar for trying to help with issues.

[tropic grotto]

Kobe's realism plugin caused other issues for me too, I just play without it

[stiff quiver]

I've only had the trader issues during one session so far on my side. And what's the deal about people calling you a liar? Haven't seen anyone say that... Unless you're refering to my first response when you said the plugin was completely broken? Even then I never said you lied, just that your statement seemed overblown to me, since I hadn't experienced much issues myself...

If it's broken for most then so be it. I just don't want people who might be thinking about using the plugin to skip it thinking it's completely broken when in reality their experience might be closer to mine, which is only minor issues

[elder timber]

On the other hand I’ve been using the same plugins with my friends up until this week when we moved to 4.0 no broken traders whatsoever. I didn’t enable med change, and by extension Hazard though

[kindred hamlet]

Your experience is your own, not the experience of everyone else. It's neither here nor there any more regardless, I don't see any reason why 3.11 mods would be updated or debugged since 4.0 is out.

[tropic grotto]

sir another fika update has just hit the server

[kindred hamlet]

I'd be glad to provide logs and proof but highly I doubt you want to waste the time working on it. I had the issue with all combinations of settings.

[feral lagoon]

Still going in here huh.

[tidal gust]

Not sure if you remember, but @tiny ermine and I reported this issue in your thread while testing your fika plugin. I can attest to the fact that having med changes enabled will cause traders UI to bug out

[stray bane]

My understanding was that the issue was caused by med changes specifically

[elder timber]

Yes I remember. And like Fontaine has just said above, it’s because of Med changes specifically. Plus the sync plugin doesn’t support Med changes yet

[stiff quiver]

What does the plugin need to sync for the med changes? I didn't know a sync was needed for this

[elder timber]

the sync plugin must be updated to include med changes

[stiff quiver]

I didn't know med changes needed to be synched... Like I understand stances and hazard needing syncing for players to see the same thing, but I didn't think med changes needed that, since this isn't something players interacts with together, if that makes sense

I guess this answer the question I had for Fontaine, I'll remove my comment

[elder timber]

Med changes affect the charges of healing items, if they are not synced up there will be situations where on your end you still have charges/ran out of charge and other players/server think otherwise. Which in turn causing inventory desync.

[drowsy fog]

probably dumb question does the zombie Halloween event work with realism?

[stray bane]

If you disable hazards

And spawn/boss spawn changes most likely

[drowsy fog]

thank you homie

[tiny ermine]

Which is fascinating because King shottie and i noticed that manual chambering was causing certain mags to bug out in rigs and be unable to be loaded in raid. Even with med and hazards turned off.

[elder timber]

Yeah, that too.

[stray bane]

People tried troubleshooting this and said it still was happening after disabling it. This is why I'm weary to support Fika at all, when you have a server and multiple people involved it can be easy for users to get mixed up

[tiny ermine]

For sure. Were going to make another server with just realism and its related syncs to do some more indepth testing

[tropic grotto]

I've tried testing this extensively and got nowhere, there seems to be no real correlation

[stray bane]

Unfortunately I can't assume the server was restarted after changing the config consistently and such

[kindred hamlet]

This might be apocryphal but I disabled the reload speed changes and no one on my server has had mags desync so far. Only thing we get desync with regularly is some of the optional stuff in visceral combat.

[tidal gust]

Which we ended up doing and I think, I haven't heard from others besides Obi, fixed it

Well fixed, I mean mitigated lol

Still love Realism tho 🫶🏾

[tropic grotto]

I did this too but I still got desyncs

Funny thing is, after disabling and re-enabling I get the much less

I played like 5 long raids with everything on and had no desyncs

[kindred hamlet]

Hmmmm very odd. I’ve had a couple UI Fixes options cause the same desync as well. SPT / headless is cursed.

[elder timber]

https://tenor.com/view/的9-gif-12565004940729182637

Meanwhile, Lacyway

[kindred hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-crying-meme-doggo-crys-megan-soo-crying-dog-gif-5276199764143986284

I blame Nikita

[tropic grotto]

I had in-place reloads disabled all the time

[stray bane]

That's not phyically possible to have made any difference

that's the problem with troubleshooting mods with Fika involved from a dev perspective, it's like playing chinse whispers and not only are you dealing with a user who can often make mistakes or give bad reports, you're dealing with multiple users

[kindred hamlet]

Yeah it basically just is what it is

I have resorted to arcane rituals to mitigate mag desync. Going good so far.

[vale vapor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1229913035553112075/1436691683852030023/image0.gif?ex=691086e5&is=690f3565&hm=17f24732d09c572767af20533b86513cc947ad1737b039e35e4a37d26dc27851&

[kindred hamlet]

the song is playing in my head every time I see this

[topaz topaz]

if you donate $5 to fontaine you are immune to desyncs for three days

[tribal sleet]

Wololo Please Prevent my Desync!

Wololo

https://tenor.com/view/age-of-empire-wololo-stuff-speaking-pointing-gif-16881722

[plain latch]

https://tenor.com/view/tarkov-verified-verified-by-usec-this-post-has-been-fact-checked-tarkov-usec-gif-9723430833983656353

[hasty umbra]

Do suggestions go in here?

I checked the pins but i don't think it says anything about it

Well anyway it would be cool if we got a little auditory indicator when your character has adrenaline, something like a heartbeat or subtle panicked breathing.

[stray bane]

Someone send me good audio files and I'll consider it

[hasty umbra]

I might later, thanks dor considering

[hasty umbra]

Hypothetically if I we're to record some breathing sounds or whatever, would you want coughing audio for hazard zones instead of using the injured thorax sound?

[stray bane]

Appreciate the offer but I'm happy with using BSG's for that

[paper halo]

I'm gonna dm you a couple .mp3 of me coughing and breathing just in case

[hasty umbra]

No worries

[kindred hamlet]

I'll take those mp3's, no reason

[stray bane]

https://github.com/space-commits/SPT-FOV-Fix/releases/tag/v3.1.4

https://github.com/space-commits/SPT-Realism-Mod-Client/releases/tag/v1.6.3

[stray bane]

FOV Fix updated to 4.0:
https://forge.sp-tarkov.com/mod/701/fontaines-fov-fix#versions

[dapper flint]

I may be late to the party, but is this still being worked on?

[feral lagoon]

Convo is mostly in SPT discord

[dapper flint]

Ok, thx

[lament flax]

What is up with some raids having creepy ambient, fog and passive toxicity gain? Its per person, teamates dont have it in the same raid

[elder timber]

You'd need Realism Sync for that

[lament flax]

id like to disable it

[elder timber]

Then disable Hazard zone

[lament flax]

yeah but its like saying dont play tarkov as a response to someone having an issue with it. isnt there some config file that changes this events probability?

[stiff quiver]

If you look at the server side code you can disable/edit the chances. Just don't ask for help or report issues if you do so, since you'll be editing the mod in an unsupported manner

[stray bane]

By default it's very, very rare. If you're doing the hazard quest line then read the descriptions; it'll get more and more frequent till you finish the questline

[lament flax]

im on safety technician part2 and im lv47, i cant find the train for the love of god

[stray bane]

Can't find the giant train crash on Customs?

[lament flax]

the one by new gas?

[stray bane]

old gas, there isn't a train crash near new gas

by the hill

[stiff quiver]

Are you sure you're not getting new and old gas mixed up? New gas is the one where Reshala can spawn. Old gas is the one that can have an extract

[stray bane]

Maybe 🤷‍♂️

[clever pawn]

The train crash is near new gas. At least thats the place with train cars laying around…

[urban elbow]

try going past power hill

there should be a BIIIG train crash

with cargo spilling out

[tight crane]

Hello Mr Fontaine!
There is no hurry at all but Im wondering. Will we eventually get realism mod for the current spt version? Or is the project discontinued?

[feral lagoon]

It is being worked on. Follow in the spt discord.