RiR Thread 4 - BTOS2 Official Edition

[visual zealot]

This should be the actual final adjustment I have to make

I'll work on the two other breads later
Wheat loaf imo can just use the one we alr have (or I could just try to make a 🍞) so Ig I'll make Soul Cake 🍰

[narrow quest]

wait a minute

rye bread is like

dark brown and shit

unless this is supposed to be the wheat bread

[remote vessel]

thought this was soap

[visual zealot]

honestly, ik
but I'm too lazy to change the colors

[remote vessel]

baker's feeding townies soap, no wonder they get roleblocked. they're too sick to leave their house

[visual zealot]

this is the recolors thread, yall go recolor it

or I'll do it but like
busy atm

[visual zealot]

I tried but it looks more like a glazed donut
lmao

[narrow quest]

one sec

[visual zealot]

hey, at least I figured out the ToS2 style :P

I'm happy

[patent magnet]

Yummy

[visual zealot]

ok, better
it looks slightly better for sure

but maybe a bit lighter?

[narrow quest]

Rye bread tends to get really dark

[visual zealot]

yours looks more like Coffee Bread

[narrow quest]

(the top part of this reference image is light due to flour being dusted on top)

[patent magnet]

It kind of looks like a fudge muffin

idk why

[visual zealot]

and I still like this more :P
Strawberry Bread
ez easter egg

[narrow quest]

right is the newer one

[small lotus]

choco

[visual zealot]

right looks better but I think we might need to tone down the highlights and lighten up the outlines

[rotund slate]

Cookie?

[visual zealot]

Rye Boule

[patent magnet]

o

[visual zealot]

I made it and Mystic's uh
not happy with Strawberry :P

(understandable)

[visual zealot]

but defo darken the highlights so it doesn't look glazed imo

[narrow quest]

ok

[visual zealot]

and lighten the linework

to match the color a bit more

should help it look less... burnt

i think

[narrow quest]

left is the newest one

[visual zealot]

Left is fine, Idk if you could just maybe
erase the brightest highlight completely
It still looks glazed now that the bread is darker

and maybe desaturate it completely?
I work with p light colors in my art so I might be just using my own artstyle as a basis but I don't like it that dark for some reason

you're the one who bakes here tho, not arguing :/

[narrow quest]

It is accurate to be that dark though

[visual zealot]

(ToS2 Cake)

[narrow quest]

Rye bread gets brown.

[visual zealot]

mhm

[visual zealot]

I think it's the lines that's making it look burnt

[narrow quest]

unfortunately, my tablet is being a bitch

[visual zealot]

ouch

and i turned off my chromebook too

darnit

smth like this
minus the most obnoxious grain in the world

also the bubbles were kinda supposed to be blue

:P

slight edit

again, basically this without the grain hell

[small lotus]

the second one looks grainier to me

[visual zealot]

that I won't be bothered to fix

[visual zealot]

yeah ik

I'm not trying to get rid of the grain

[small lotus]

rip lol

[visual zealot]

I'm just trying to prove a point to mystic that a lighter outline may work better

[narrow quest]

a lot of the vanilla icons have a stark black outline

Baker happens to be one of the exceptions, but still

[small lotus]

ty no microtransactions mod

[narrow quest]

I don't like the blue bubbles tbh

they feel a touch out of place

imo they should either be red to match with the Apoc colors, or be brown to resemble bread crumbs.

On that note here's a version that introduces some actual red into the icon.

[small lotus]

alright chat, here we go

witchcraft:

• literally everything changed lmao

fancy ui

• updated to the newer witchcraft
• fixed up some of the minor issues with performance
• moved to the newer asset loading system from witchcraft (which should theoretically be a bit faster)
• deleted tons of things that were rendered obsolete by the witchcraft improvement

[narrow quest]

:O

e

[sharp warren]

dead pacman

[narrow quest]

what

[proper marten]

Y would u starve Pacman :c

[narrow quest]

if pacman needs to die for me to win the game

so be it

He'll be back after the game ends.

I'm stuck now

i can click the check but it doesn't do anything

[small lotus]

oh oops forgot to include a back button

ok psa for those getting the latest dll: do NOT go into the silhouette tester menu as it'll softlock your game

[rotund slate]

if I took this out of context no one would know it’s for recolors

[tranquil kindle]

if i may comment even though it's been like half a day, what if the internals of the bread were slightly less saturated?

[upper meteor]

I think what people are forgetting is that people would want to actually eat the cakes. The blue bubbles make the most sense because it's literally food.

Red can be used for strawberry jam when applicable, but I think PM and Baker are in a unique spot where you really don't need all three of them to be precisely the same hue since they show up in that giant menu.

[remote vessel]

i still think it's funnier if baker is giving people soap

[rotund slate]

yes but also why

why wodl baker do that

[neon dust]

Me after being visited by PM and Baker (I will now do a mukbang video).

[narrow quest]

Idk man I don’t want soap bubbles next to my food

[upper meteor]

I like that you guys prefer your steaks extra rare, but I don't think pastries do that.

[narrow quest]

I originally wanted it brown

To look like bread crumbs

[upper meteor]

Yeah, but I can't make a joke about that so I elected to ignore it.

[narrow quest]

HJP wanted me to change it back to blue but I refused, saying “it should either be red or brown”

[upper meteor]

Well, it's his drawing. I would ask him why he wants the blue bubbles personally and work around that instead of just refusing it. See if a compromise can be made.

I don't have a steak* in it, but I do think the blue looks clean.

[narrow quest]

Yeah no

There wasn’t a compromise last time

I got 0% of I wanted

[upper meteor]

You got 100% of what you wanted

What do you mean?

The github never had Harry's version uploaded to it. You can't seriously still be upset enough to hold that against the guy when all he did was say words.

[narrow quest]

Not against him specifically

It triggers that feeling of

Sometimes people say “compromise” when what they really mean is “Settle. Settle for less.”

[upper meteor]

Oh, so then me? I still never uploaded Harry's version to the github, so I don't know what you want from me.

[upper meteor]

If you think that's what me or Harry is saying, I think there's a translation error and you're taking minor differences of opinion as threats.

[harsh girder]

Real

[upper meteor]

I dunno about you, but I'd eat a cake from Mr.Clean, that guy is dependable.

[harsh girder]

This really is soap wtf

[upper meteor]

It's just a secret ingredient, it's not a soap I swear

[harsh girder]

I like this

Oops didn’t mean to ping

[upper meteor]

No worries, she'll understand I think

[harsh girder]

Soaper rework

[hybrid arch]

Idk ive never seen brown soap before. it looks like spirit bubbles or something to me
Maybe changing the shape would make it clearer to you all though?
Though, I do like the bread crumb idea ans the red...
Id probably have to see it in the menu, tbh.

[upper meteor]

What if instead of the Baker, it was the Soaper?

[narrow quest]

Definitely.

[harsh girder]

Truee

[tranquil kindle]

ngl i haven't seen the fabled blue bubbles on account of i have harry blocked for potter crimes & i don't unhide blocked messages

but between the two colors i HAVE seen, I'd prefer brown crumbs over jam blobs

[neon dust]

Oops all bleach !

[rotund slate]

covid cure coded

[hybrid arch]

actually, you mentioning jam blobs does make me think that the red could look cool if we put more red in the center as if it was in fact jam filled.
But is that rye bread? i dunno.
Am i really going to look up "bread"...

[tranquil kindle]

rye boules are not generally jam filled lol

the soul cake on the other hand does have some jam

[proper marten]

Crunchy rye bread dipped in japaleno'd nacho cheese goes very well with beef broth.

[neon dust]

sounds tasty

[hybrid arch]

I would not know :p
Alright then. that can be stored for later.

[harsh girder]

With a side of soap bubbles

[lusty dune]

make the inner crumb red

[rotund slate]

did they have jalapeno'd nacho cheese in the 17th century

[neon dust]

nah but they had the plague

so it's close enough

[rotund slate]

what 💀

[visual zealot]

:P

guess what i made this time

cookies for you if you get it right :D

How about... All of the above?
And also a bonus velvet cake easter egg :P

heh

@narrow quest if you have color based complaints please contact uhhh
somewhere else

B)

but that concludes the Baker ability icons

[narrow quest]

oh my

I still really like the dark rye bread

[visual zealot]

I drew all this in 2 hours
ToS2 art style is surprisingly efficient

[visual zealot]

Oh, I really don't care abt the color of rye boule
If it's dark IRL, then so be it
I just like the soap better personally :P

[narrow quest]

which ability is this supposed to represent

[visual zealot]

The cookies looking one is the Soul cake, the Bread (un)slices are the Wheat Loaf, and the Cake is just uh
there
(I definitely did not cook very hard on that and realize afterwards that Soul Cake is, in fact, not a velvet cake)

:P

[narrow quest]

XD

The red velvet cake is funny enough that it's totally going in as an easter egg

also

[visual zealot]

mhm?

[narrow quest]

what is the proper icon name of each of these

[visual zealot]

Idfk
there's alr made baker ability icons in the git, ig we just uh
use that and figure it out?

or uh
@small lotus do you know

[narrow quest]

the names are
Baker_Ability_1_BTOS2.png
Baker_Ability_2_BTOS2.png
Baker_Special_BTOS2.png

I just

don't know which is which

[visual zealot]

LOL

uh

idfk

[lethal galleon]

ability 1 is wheat loaf

ability 2 is rye boule

special is Feed

[visual zealot]

ah

[narrow quest]

Dope.

[visual zealot]

then Ig 3 is Soul Cake?

[narrow quest]

so I'm assuming the soul cake is supposed to be special

[visual zealot]

no, special is the [feed] button I think?

no?

[narrow quest]

ok but like

[visual zealot]

Let me check rq

[narrow quest]

you know how PM works right

[lethal galleon]

special is the button that changes your bread type

[narrow quest]

PM doesn't have an "ability 3" icon despite having 3 abilities

it just shows the kill potion as the special

[lethal galleon]

yeah

[visual zealot]

interesting

[lethal galleon]

id put soul cake under special/feed since

Annoyingly enough I'm 99% sure the wheat loaf icon in game is the fucking
old soul cake

[visual zealot]

we have a velvet cake easter egg too :P

for soul cake

[narrow quest]

yeah

[lethal galleon]

ability 1/wheat loaf icon, ability 2/rye boule icon, special/Feed icon

respectively

[narrow quest]

idk what the hell that one was doing

there was also this old soul cake from nido

[visual zealot]

ooh

[narrow quest]

since a lot of soul cakes have berries on the edges and centre of the scoring pattern

which, I wonder why you didn't include that in yours?

[visual zealot]

1. I'm lazy
2. Uh I didn't research soul cakes
3. My soul cake is broken in half like baker's feed ability rn

[lethal galleon]

What the fuck why did they Do That

[visual zealot]

slightly glitched

[lethal galleon]

😭

why did they Do That

[visual zealot]

LOL

[narrow quest]

no idea

that is

[visual zealot]

idk

[narrow quest]

cursed

[lethal galleon]

the images themselves arent even

broken or grainy

why tf did they DO that

[visual zealot]

I think we can keep Baker's vanilla ability as is tho

[narrow quest]

yea

i think people would riot if BREAD was changed

:bread

[visual zealot]

yeah

LOL

[lethal galleon]

I'm only using it for vanilla baker too because I don't like vanilla bread

[narrow quest]

-# fair enough

[lethal galleon]

anyway time to make the red velvet default

[narrow quest]

🔥

[rotund slate]

what the f

that’s odd

[visual zealot]

also in case @upper meteor you missed this :P

heh

[neon dust]

wtf happenned to the pixels

[lethal galleon]

ok so

its probably just

an issue with my computer not downloading the images properly

idk :(

[rotund slate]

your computer stays silly

[lethal galleon]

me wait for the github to update with the new icons

[visual zealot]

me too!

B)

[lethal galleon]

https://tenor.com/view/i-have-an-idea-croods-grug-the-croods-gif-9990053463233283167

I just got a

stupid idea out of nowhere

[narrow quest]

Narrator: And they were never heard from again.

[lethal galleon]

lmfao

the idea was in fact stupid

Admirer Care icon with different Pride flags over the heart

[narrow quest]

I've actually done that before (with just the regular pride flag tho)

[lethal galleon]

The Jackal icon is the straight "pride" flag

[rotund slate]

GAY!!!!

sorry

very exciting

[narrow quest]

pretty gay

[lusty dune]

the wheat loaf is the third

you guys used my iconpack as a base

but the thing is

i swapped the names of soul cake and wheat

and the icons

because it annoyed me that soul cake protected and wheat gave consig info

[meager token]

@small lotus they did something with role card and mentions

it may be joever

[small lotus]

i'm fucked

[meager token]

ill go ingame and look quickly

[small lotus]

ight

[meager token]

this broke

mentions are fine??

[small lotus]

what's in the logs?

everyone delete your btos2 mod files, might be an issue with btos2 fucking up

alright updated dependencies

@meager token what's in the logs

[meager token]

i just closed the game ill look through the logs rq

[small lotus]

ight

[meager token]

uhhh

these were all i got

im putting "FancyUI" into my search bar and nothing came up

other than those

[small lotus]

what about fancy ui itself

go to the witchcraft logs

[lethal galleon]

[small lotus]

some of the game files changed

to i have to change them accordingly for myself to ensure the mod works the way it should

[narrow quest]

i wish there was a button to like

quickly disable all mods

Role Mentions in chat can now display a role on any faction

how do you mention a mismatched role

Oh my the game... broke

i couldn't even test with a replay because they're all outdated now

It's not even RIR's fault
I disabled fancyUI and it's still happening

[rotund slate]

holy shir

[narrow quest]

pretty sure I narrowed the issue down to 2 mods

it's either witchcraft or modpagelib

OK it's Witchcraft

I have modpagelib on but not witchcraft and it worked

so witchcraft 🅱️roke

[tranquil kindle]

😬

[rotund slate]

oh boy

[kindred spire]

everyone is 12

n1 12 sus

"which one?"

[small lotus]

Bruh

Wc doesn't touch those things AAAAA

[lethal galleon]

[small lotus]

enable outdated mods and wth why is it asking to check jan's lib twice?

[lethal galleon]

how do I

enable outdated mods

[small lotus]

sml settings

[rotund slate]

?JAN

damnit it doesn’t work here

[patent magnet]

Hey I have a question

When doing a Icon do you prefer white or black outlines?

[unique tusk]

everyone banned for being underage !

[patent magnet]

Heres what I mean btw

[narrow quest]

black outlines are typical in ToS2 icons

so black is probably better

[small lotus]

it would be funny if you could edit the icon in the fancy ui menu

teehee

[small lotus]

ok so now here's the thing: i can't replicate this issue for some reason

so i'm cooked

yay

[rotund slate]

thats bad

[small lotus]

there could be a wild chance that it's a mac L

[narrow quest]

Oh my god

[rotund slate]

not again

[violet citrus]

everything actually has colored outlines, but they're dark enough that at a glance they look black. in a fast paced information based game like this the color of the outline isn't exactly a detail needing determined

[kindred spire]

hey wait a min

this is vanilla

(aside from btos2 and achievementtracker being installed)

the Lookout part no longer has double icons

feature stolen from Fancy UI 😔

[small lotus]

Oh nice i can finally get rid of that annoying feature

[meager token]

it's like the opposite of that one saying

"it's not a bug, it's a feature"
but opposite

[small lotus]

lmao

also how exactly are we supposed to mention or view role cards of roles from mismatching factions?

they said we can do so in the patch notes but there's no mentions on how to do it

updated dependcies for both, hopefully the game works for mystic

reupload because i forgor to delete something

[scarlet palm]

I could copy paste the whole list if you’d like

[small lotus]

sure

[scarlet palm]

[[#RoleNum,FactionNum]]

Roles

0 - None (Doesn't Work)
1 - Admirer
2 - Amnesiac
3 - Bodyguard
4 - Cleric
5 - Coroner
6 - Crusader
7 - Deputy
8 - Investigator
9 - Jailor
10 - Lookout
11 - Mayor
12 - Monarch
13 - Prosecutor
14 - Psychic
15 - Retributionist
16 - Seer
17 - Sheriff
18 - Spy
19 - Tavern Keeper
20 - Tracker
21 - Trapper
22 - Trickster
23 - Veteran
24 - Vigilante
25 - Conjurer
26 - Coven Leader
27 - Dreamweaver
28 - Enchanter
29 - Hex Master
30 - Illusionist
31 - Jinx
32 - Medusa
33 - Necromancer
34 - Poisoner
35 - Potion Master
36 - Ritualist
37 - Voodoo Master
38 - Wildling
39 - Witch
40 - Arsonist
41 - Baker
42 - Berserker
43 - Doomsayer
44 - Executioner
45 - Jester
46 - Pirate
47 - Plaguebearer
48 - Serial Killer
49 - Shroud
50 - Soul Collector
51 - Werewolf
52 - Vampire
53 - Cursed Soul
54 - Banshee/Socialite
55 - Jackal/Marshal
56 - Marshal
57 - Judge
58 - Auditor
59 - Inquisitor
60 - Starspawn
61 - Oracle
62 - Warlock

240 - Hangman (Doesn't Work)
241 - Hidden
250 - Famine
251 - War
252 - Pestilence
253 - Death
254 - Stoned

Factions

0 - None/Stoned/Hidden
1 - Town
2 - Coven
3 - Serial Killer
4 - Arsonist
5 - Werewolf
6 - Shroud
7 - Apocalypse
8 - Executioner
9 - Jester
10 - Pirate
11 - Doomsayer
12 - Vampire
13 - Cursed Soul
33 - Jackal
34 - Frogs
35 - Lions
36 - Hawks
38 - Judge
39 - Auditor
40 - Inquisitor
41 - Starspawn
42 - Egotist
43 - Pandora
44 - Compliance

At the top is the way you type it

So if I wanted jester death it would be [[#253,9]]

[small lotus]

@rirchat we got jest death real

[kindred spire]

Hangman does work but only in BTOS2 (doesnt include icons)

alch add support for Hangman.png

🔥

[meager token]

courtesy of me :3

the role buckets also have role ids but like

Im 99% sure

nothing would change from inputting a faction override

[scarlet palm]

Yeah it doesn’t change factions sadly, I accidentally tested this when I first learned about it

[narrow quest]

MFW Match Replays broke

this is unrelated to the witchcraft issue replays just don't work

I hate having to test in a real game

[keen bridge]

Found out 37 has a funny unused color

[scarlet palm]

Does it have a team name?

[narrow quest]

OK it seems to be good

[small lotus]

Spoilers :p

[keen bridge]

[keen bridge]

Nah

[small lotus]

it's known by this point that mr is pretty broken

when you leave a replay and join another lobby, the replay keeps going

and the time scale no longer works properly and resets back to 100% after every night

[narrow quest]

it broke so bad that replays just don't start now

at least for me

[meager token]

i mean

it isnt really spoilers

curt and tuba spoke about it openly

[small lotus]

they start just fine for me

common mac L

[small lotus]

ah really?

[meager token]

yeah

#lgbtos2-chat message

[small lotus]

:o

[meager token]

#lgbtos2-chat message mmm i love digging into messages

[lethal galleon]

i just downloaded this and it said its STILL outdated

??

[small lotus]

i mentioned it before to enable outdated mods on sml settings

[lethal galleon]

I enabled outdated mods and it just

didn't let me play proper

and it can't be due to a different mod since like
Witchcraft is the only mod that was enabled by me allowing outdated mods

im fairly certain

[small lotus]

close your game and send me the logs

check pins on how to get the logs

[narrow quest]

(it's in the pins, but the pins are a bit messy right now)

[lethal galleon]

this literally only happened once for whatever reason

maybe it was just general fixes being there but being disabled

[small lotus]

oh delete general fixes

it's broken atm

[violet citrus]

[[#2,9]]

told u itd b usable
-# /j

[violet citrus]

i updated the mod b4 even touching the game and yet this still happened...

[meager token]

wooo we actually have a reason to do NE shenanigans now

[kindred spire]

how is gray a funny color

[small lotus]

logs logs logs please 😭

[violet citrus]

I'll get them to u in a moment, I'm busy with lunch

[small lotus]

👍

[keen bridge]

Its not gray

Lmao

[violet citrus]

i fell asleep, apparently, and now i got work to do

[undone crag]

this did not age quite well

[violet citrus]

not exactly. it's not gonna show up in normal play still

[scarlet palm]

Jest aligned death icon when

[proper marten]

win if you do, win if you dont

[rotund slate]

can’t wait for frogs aligned executioner icon

in 2027

but at least this update means my NP and NE recolors for CS can be seen

[rotund slate]

am i missing any cs arts btw?

[visual zealot]

Uh
You're missing
CS ||Idfk||

[rotund slate]

Thanks very insightful

[visual zealot]

ik right

I'm very helpful

B)

[kindred spire]

i dont thnik we're missing any CS icons

-# unless you include unswappable roles

[lusty dune]

we will not include those in the git

[kindred spire]

😔

[buoyant crane]

oh jester is SILLY I love it

[still slate]

STARSPAWN WITH THE :3 FACE

[proper marten]

Smiley jackal !!

These are SO CUTE

Grompy exe

[real peak]

https://tenor.com/view/town-of-salem-2-prosecutor-tos2-tos-2-town-of-salem-gif-6687083692775139643

[lusty dune]

oh someone redid my cs jackal

[real peak]

we need to include those

[lusty dune]

have it as an easteregg for the main role

[real peak]

[[#55,13]]

[kindred spire]

My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined.
-# The icons don't check for faction.

[still slate]

that gradient is fucking awesome

can i see all? im curious

[kindred spire]

sure gimme a sec

[still slate]

i have the first color of each role set to white and the 2nd to their main color so it melts kinda with the reveal screen

just fucks heavily with other stuff

[kindred spire]

vanilla factions + CS

[still slate]

they look pretty good

coven and apoc look awesome

[kindred spire]

modded factions

only modded faction i changed drastically was Inquis

Compliance is different, but not by much.

[still slate]

compliance looks more vibrant

[kindred spire]

yea it uses existing role colors

SK - Vamp - Arso

[still slate]

hmm why vamp and not something else?

just curious

[kindred spire]

red

[proper marten]

Where’s jackal

[kindred spire]

i forgor jackal

jackal is unchanged

so...

[proper marten]

I saw one that was gold too black

[kindred spire]

Teams is also unchanged.

[proper marten]

So epic

[still slate]

loonie can i maybe have all hex codes? just screenshot ur settings so i can type them myself lol

if u want ofc

[kindred spire]

i'll probably redo Pirate and Doom, they have different gradient concepts to the others.

[still slate]

yeah i saw lol

[kindred spire]

lemme redo em then I'll screenshot

[still slate]

okay tysm

[kindred spire]

alr cool

[still slate]

doomsayer has like an emerald color

imo

[kindred spire]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[still slate]

it looks good lol

[real peak]

what about 37

[still slate]

fym 37

wasnt that just gray

[real peak]

unused faction 37

cannibal

the scrapped role

its like skin color

[[#45,37]]

[still slate]

ohhh

tf would it do

like

eat people? 💀

[still slate]

i mean no shit thats a cannibal

but still

[real peak]

so uh

i think curtis said it would be an nk like jugg kinda?

it could attack or eat corpses to power itself up

yup

[still slate]

man just add jugg back, way better than berserker istg

but as an NK ig

[kindred spire]

my favorite

[still slate]

tysm loonie

[still slate]

same

[real peak]

placeholder icon

[real peak]

what

wait lemme launch tos

[still slate]

i love (en-US:BTOS_FACTIONNAME_37)

[kindred spire]

Misc Role Customization makes it gray

[real peak]

oh lmao

[kindred spire]

me omw to use Text Editor to add the missing strings for Cannibal

[real peak]

im gonna hangman you

[kindred spire]

why is it an Admirer icon what

[still slate]

im so desperate to get jugg back that i renamed berserker to juggernaut

even changed the feedback

[real peak]

i have an older fancy ui

[kindred spire]

when i did it it did <sprite shit

[real peak]

maybe its that

[still slate]

even changed the transform message

[real peak]

ok this looks really correct tbh

it just needs

a correct icon

[still slate]

hangman needs to exist as a role, fr fr

[violet citrus]

i just realized i completely forgot about this. srry @small lotus

[kindred spire]

alch should add Hangman.png as a supported entry for icon packs fr

[violet citrus]

personally for compliance i'd do white-white red. think u can try with showing that?

[kindred spire]

ive shown it before

its up in this thread somewhere

[violet citrus]

oh yea i forgot. mind redoing or reposting it tho?

[still slate]

mine is white-red-white

looks pretty stupid

[violet citrus]

yea i tried that at first and it was iffy too

[violet citrus]

yea might do better with vamp red. not gonna make u do it again tho

[still slate]

i wanna change jackal

but idk what

[kindred spire]

i never changed Jackal because it wouldnt change in WDAH

[still slate]

like i want the black to stay since its jackal's main color

[kindred spire]

in its cause of death

[still slate]

oh it doesnt?

[kindred spire]

the xml string just has "Jackal" with each color applied to each letter manually

[still slate]

ew

why is it different than NP

[kindred spire]

wdym

[real peak]

im gonna guess hangman doesnt work because it doesnt have an assigned faction

and thats why when you give it a faction number it does actually work

[rotund slate]

yeah i recolored it to fit current standards

[rotund slate]

exe's ass is not happy to be here

[kindred spire]

all role IDs from 1 to 255 can be sent with a faction ID assigned, including IDs not assigned to any role

[meager token]

if a role dosent have a faction it defaults to 0

atleast

it should

[real peak]

well [[#240]] doesnt mention

but [[#240,1]] does

[kindred spire]

in vanilla it has no string, in btos2 it says Hangman

[meager token]

yeah cuz i dont think you can mention faction 0

lmao

[real peak]

common vanilla L

[real peak]

what does stoned mention then?

cuz [[#254]] does work

[meager token]

try [[#240,0]] for me rq

[real peak]

ok lemme launch tos

[real peak]

it works

[meager token]

guh

[kindred spire]

-# oh yea misc role customization is gonna need an update to patch the role card popup again lol

[proper marten]

Hangman alined hangman

[real peak]

🗣️

[meager token]

oh ive done it im just processing some other changes

[real peak]

hangman card is EXTREMELY broken

[kindred spire]

would it also be possible to fix the bug where it doesnt pull the btos2 role names :3

[meager token]

hm?

wdym

[kindred spire]

click Banshee

it shows Banshee role card with purple soci as name

[violet citrus]

obviously. it doesn't actually exist

[meager token]

oh right ye

whoops

[kindred spire]

anything after Banshee and Jackal show invalid strings

[real peak]

also can we talk about hidden role card real quick

opening it opens this

but hovering over attack

[violet citrus]

btw, it broke again, @small lotus. completely unplayable, unfortunately

[kindred spire]

Clicking an invalid role mention in vanilla plays the error sound.
Clicking an invalid role mention in btos2 pulls up the vigilant mayor role card.

[rotund slate]

:3

[meager token]

oh yeah also

[real peak]

mayor with tos1 vigi icon but no gun or bullets

but also apparently unstoppable attack and invincible defense

[meager token]

im making it so

if you dont have text editor

[buoyant crane]

Oh Lord fancy UI exploded big time huh

[meager token]

the setting for faction role names

just vanishes

[real peak]

also i found a tiny quirk
(image 1: on open
image 2: hovering over attack)

[real peak]

(no, shield does not disappear, i just cropped it)

oh damn walking dead is a role???

(do [[#215,1]])

[real peak]

yes the ,1 is necessary or it wont work

[kindred spire]

moment

send ss i dont feel like opening the game xd

[real peak]

its just vigilant mayor

[kindred spire]

i meant in chat

the one in chat

[kindred spire]

its the icon!

[real peak]

it has icon and name

[kindred spire]

it loads!

[real peak]

so it has some kind of progress apparently

[kindred spire]

we made the icon used

its probably considered a role cuz its not considered a modifier yet

[real peak]

ok but no

every single modifier is apparently a role

look at the stringtable

wait

secret objectives is in there

but no :

ICON DETECTED

[kindred spire]

ITS REAL

wait

[proper marten]

o.o

[kindred spire]

mention ballot voting

223

[kindred spire]

lame

its icon is missing

which means work never started on it

[real peak]

wait

why does [[#224,1]] just not work?

that should be individuality

[kindred spire]

what happens?

[kindred spire]

weird

[proper marten]

Didn’t ballot voting lose this

Lost to walking dead

[real peak]

wait i think its only the ones that arent modifiers that work

[proper marten]

Does safe house have a code

[real peak]

alright wait let me go on vanilla

and check out [[#255,1]]

it has some embed

but clearly not in btos2

oh also

interesting

it cant be clicked

[meager token]

@kindred spire about misc role customization
the bug is fixed but i need alch to tell me something quickly

cause its now dependent on witchcraft
but now theres witchcraft errors being spammed in logs for misc role customization which makes it not load properly

[meager token]

okay nvm @kindred spire

banshee being broken is

a btos2 issue

[kindred spire]

yea ik

[meager token]

heres coven admi

[kindred spire]

i was just curious if you could fix it with MRC

[meager token]

i dont think so

fancy ui fucks up too

[kindred spire]

Witchcraft was made outdated so...

[meager token]

yeah no it was an issue with the witchcraft version i had

that issue is fixed now

[kindred spire]

lol

[real peak]

1. Book???
2. Library???
3. Melting Love???

[meager token]

thought you knew this by now

i rethemed literally everything

[real peak]

i mean yes but wtf

[neon dust]

Book = Town
Library = Coven
Melting love = Admirer

[real peak]

explain

[real peak]

where does melting love come from

what is that icon

[meager token]

https://lobotomycorp.fandom.com/wiki/Melting_Love

[neon dust]

https://lobotomycorp.fandom.com/wiki/Melting_Love

[meager token]

LMAO

[real peak]

oh its lobotomycorp

makes sense

[neon dust]

colorful gonna be dragged into the lob corp fandom by force

[real peak]

no

denied

[neon dust]

https://tenor.com/view/censored-lobotomy-corporation-lobotomy-lob-corp-lobotomy-corp-gif-15660106767232499603

[meager token]

worst part is

im probably gonna overhaul

[real peak]

human flesh yum

[meager token]

my entire xml anyways

specifically the townies and neuts

apocs are fine

[neon dust]

I'll work on mine again once I've finished the french translation

but having to translate the fucking shop's gonna kill me

[meager token]

im working on making mine entirely LoR themed

which means i need to do away with abnos being town

and make them guests

[neon dust]

eh fair

[meager token]

I'm making abnos neutrals tho

the only neutral that won't be an abno is

jackal

and jackal is argalia

[kindred spire]

only when you dont define a faction.
doing a mention in chat with a faction assigned will load the new icon

[violet citrus]

this is actually a lot worse than it looks like. the main protag of the game already has a massive rose-tinting filter over everything so he doesn't go insane from the absolute horrors being dealt with, but this thing is so horrifying the only possible filter is outright censorship

[neon dust]

yeah that and also the description of what CENSORED does

[patent magnet]

Wizard Role Icons

[proper marten]

The true happenings of famine

[kindred spire]

new town role leaked

-# its Beguiler but town

went and looked for it
#1275474849724108892

nvm its just town witch

[proper marten]

LOL

[patent magnet]

Remaking that one happily to be not town witch

instead town pm frfr

[kindred spire]

proceeds to make it town Beguiler

[neon dust]

make it town prosecutor

we don't have one afaik

[patent magnet]

town pb

[kindred spire]

town sk

trust

[patent magnet]

Omg town ww trust

[patent magnet]

even better

[neon dust]

so veteran

[patent magnet]

Veteran that visits

[proper marten]

Astrally

[tranquil kindle]

Oh, of course LobCorp has a slime girl. Any good SCP-adjacent thing should have a slime girl.

[neon dust]

Play lob corp !
We have :
Meat Doggo
Slime Girl
God
God but evil
CENSORED
3 fucking birds + another bird that nobody cares about

[tranquil kindle]

I've tried to get into LobCorp but it's a little too much managing and a little too little information to properly managing your management.

[neon dust]

skill issue

suffering build character

[rotund slate]

but suffering isnt fun

unless it's tos2 then it's excusable

[tranquil kindle]

hey det please tell me you've set You're Bald! as jester

[meager token]

you're bald! was trickster before the rework

[tranquil kindle]

that's even funnier

[meager token]

rn jester is jester of nihil

[tranquil kindle]

i'm scrolling the wiki as one does. i love random trivia. i will retain approximately 15% of this information

[meager token]

lmao

[small lotus]

asset loading broke AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[violet citrus]

99 glitches - 1 glitch = 367 glitches

[small lotus]

so true

[neon dust]

One fix and hundred of new glitches

[neon dust]

lob corp is fun

but you will suffer

[small lotus]

try now

[kindred spire]

whats funny is that i had no issues, aside from performance drops (nothing new there)

anyways @small lotus is it possible to make role mention icons also check for the faction without the game, uh, crashing?
its weird seeing a green Admirer on a Coven Admirer mention

[small lotus]

yeah somehow the game is manually inputting the mentions

without using the method that i'm patching

[neon dust]

blame curtis

[small lotus]

when in doubt, blame curtis

[kindred spire]

nah

just blame curtis

everything is curtis

your game crashed? blame curtis
got a virus? blame curtis
got fired from your job? blame curtis

[small lotus]

found the source

[neon dust]

honestly, the fact that we meme curtis this much (and tuba) shows that they are good at their job

[narrow quest]

Well no

it shows that they're willing to laugh at themselves and take a jab

Common Curtis L works because they tolerate it.

[violet citrus]

unfortunately I'm busy working rn and will also hav to take care of a couple of kids for a while very soon

[tranquil kindle]

i feel bad abt how much ppl say common curtis L ngl

[full vector]

[small lotus]

understandable, i found a couple other bugs to keep myself busy

[small lotus]

nice, got that working

[tranquil kindle]

Hey I know this guy

[meager token]

der frootloops

or as @last flicker so lovingly calls him

"gun guy"

[last flicker]

gun guy

my beloved

[tranquil kindle]

Actually reading the page yeah this dude makes sense for Vigi

on night 8 he's controlled by a witch 👍

[meager token]

truly

[meager token]

i just remembered i was gonna port this guy over as a role at some point

[small lotus]

alright so

witchcraft:

• removed a useless bit of code
• fixed up asset loading a bit
• made it so that you don't have to close the game anymore to fnd logs, you just have to press the mod actions button for it

fancy ui:

• the role mentions differ on faction now
• speaker role icons should also be fixed/more consistent

[rotund slate]

2

[lethal galleon]

That's mine :D

Well
Mine is black to gold but like

[proper marten]

very sick

[small lotus]

fixed a bug where the game logs couldn't be saved to fresh installs

[patent magnet]

Made a ability icon for Doomsayer called "Revelation"

I used Oracle hands and the space drawing was a solar balls fanart I made but I repurposed it lol

[narrow quest]

i think that the background full of stars is gonna be too hard to read in-game

[visual zealot]

eh

it's fine

methinks

[small lotus]

fixed a game crashing bug i'd rather not mention

[undone crag]

But the new thing!!!

[rotund slate]

"id rather not mention" just makes me curious

[small lotus]

there was a small oversight in saving the logs where it would accidentally delete the folder that contained them, causing it to be unable to save the logs and spit out an error

and the way this is coded is that it would save the logs if an error popped up

aka

a single error would cascade into a crash

[rotund slate]

I see

[proper marten]

The ✨ magic ✨ of computers

[small lotus]

indeed

[meager token]

[meager token]

oh yeah was that why you were having issues with my mod

[small lotus]

nope

[meager token]

oh so its still causing issues

i have

literally no clue

lmao

[small lotus]

i'm also having issues with a custom build of text editor too

why? because it wants me to fuck off that's what

[rotund slate]

Damn

Rude editor

[proper marten]

Text auditor

[vernal parcel]

OH RIGHT THIS EXISTS

I should really get back to making botc btos2 icons

lol

[meager token]

i forgot role icons show in death reports now

[vernal parcel]

Where's the sheet containing all roles again

[proper marten]

The IDs ?

[vernal parcel]

I mean sure

I just need role names

[proper marten]

Pinned in general and media

[vernal parcel]

k

[small lotus]

can that be pinned

[proper marten]

1 moment

[meager token]

wait can you even pin forwarded messages

[vernal parcel]

It already is

[meager token]

if not i could just

ctrl + v

[vernal parcel]

In general

[small lotus]

ah

[meager token]

there we go

[small lotus]

tyty

[proper marten]

[small lotus]

HAHAHA TEXT EDITOR CAN KISS MY ASS I FINALLY FIXED IT

[proper marten]

oh ? what was issue

[small lotus]

it was saving to something known as a style table

and not the string table 💀

[proper marten]

style table..

is that added by a mod

[small lotus]

no it's a base game thing

it's to decide the type of the message iirc

[meager token]

yeah

[small lotus]

now that i've resolved my issues with text editor

det

your turn

gib source again

minus the btos dll, i can just copy paste the dll myself

[meager token]

wait how come minus the btos dll?

does it just cause the file size to skyrocket

or

[meager token]

also i

pushed the source

its on my github lol

or should be

[small lotus]

yeah that

makes it easier to share on discord

[small lotus]

gotcha

[meager token]

oh right yeah

i gotta push to it to add the btos2 dll

cuz i removed it for some reason

[small lotus]

wait did you just remake the repo again?

[proper marten]

When did youo learn how to make dlls ?

[meager token]

me?

[small lotus]

btw if you update to the latest witchcrft your mod will break,so make sure to update the witchcraft dll in libs

[proper marten]

In general, what category/class ? I've not heard of dlls at all in class

[small lotus]

dlls are application extensions iirc

[meager token]

oh everything i've learnt was self-taught

[small lotus]

and tbf i learned how to build them from det 💀

[meager token]

yeah dude

this fucker took what i told him and ran with it

now look at him

[proper marten]

why does tos use dll and not other formats ? (stardew)

[meager token]

unity

mainly

[proper marten]

tos is unity rightt

[meager token]

ye

you can find like

[small lotus]

is stardew not in unity?

[proper marten]

i remember using an xnb to mod something early on

[meager token]

you can see a ton of dlls that come with the game by going to TownOfSalem2_Data/Managed

[proper marten]

but now its so much simpler

[small lotus]

c# my beloved

[meager token]

yippee

[proper marten]

do you create dlls that modify existing dlls

[meager token]

sounds about right yeah

theres these things called harmony patches

and we can do either prefixes or postfixes that run before or after existing code respectively

[proper marten]

ik lots of rimworld mods use a harmony mod

so it handles ordering ?

[meager token]

like this

[proper marten]

thats C ?

[small lotus]

c#

[meager token]

C# is (afaik) the only language unity can use

[small lotus]

so give a simple explanation of how harmony ordering works

patches run in 3 stages: prefix (before original), transpiler (during original) and postfix (after original)

if multiple patches target the same method, a priority system is implemented to make that work. the priority is based on:

• harmony priority (based on int values)
• harmony before/after (based on string ids of other harmony and executes specifically before or after the specified harmony ids)
• plugin load order (alphabetical sort, so a mod starting with a will have their patch run before a mod starting with the letter p)

honestly i'm down to teach anyone how to mod, makes my job modding for fancy ui easier 💀

[proper marten]

im down to learn

I'm just halfway into a semester learning C tho

[small lotus]

rip

c# is pretty similar to java

[meager token]

i didnt take programming classes so

yeah im just self-teaching myself this stuff rn

[small lotus]

so as long as you understand class hierarchy, types and methods

you're good to go

also yeah

[proper marten]

I learned a bit of processing which is kind of visual java

[small lotus]

mf det is just self taught his way here

man's a genius in his own right

[meager token]

and it was all cause i got into silly among us modding

[small lotus]

fr

tbf if i hadn't seen you messing around with tou code, i wouldn't be doing what im doing lmao

butterfly effect real

[proper marten]

I think I'd like to create my own games in the future

[small lotus]

modding's the perfect way to start then

because not only you'd understand the basics of game dev as you go

you'd also be able to make code mod friendly for whoever wants to mod your game too

[meager token]

i also have another tos2 project i wanted to work on actually

might just build it into misc role customization since as a standalone mod its kinda boring

[small lotus]

what's it about?

[proper marten]

Is there code I could examine of current mods ?

[meager token]

when going to select a role through mentions, you select a role then select a faction and the mod outputs it for you

[small lotus]

you can just visit the githubs of the devs

[proper marten]

what about a way to ignore faction overrides ?

[small lotus]

i've got necro's curse, witchcraft, fancy ui and general fixes all open sourced

[meager token]

wdym?

[proper marten]

So a coven aligned tracker would show green but say Tracker (Coven)

[meager token]

my mod can kinda already do that

[small lotus]

but why would you want that

[proper marten]

ig rn it looks kinda distracting

[meager token]

well i say "kinda" it shows color and faction

still happy i found out how to make a 3 color gradient output properly

instead of just doing the first and third color most places like btos2 does

[kindred spire]

mention it

[meager token]

he already did

[small lotus]

i already did

lmao

[kindred spire]

i didnt scroll

😔

[meager token]

common loonie L

[small lotus]

i'm genuinely tweaking rn fr, WHY IS SML NOT SEEING THAT MRC EXISTS AAAAAAAAAAAAA

[kindred spire]

we limit common loonie Ls to tuba games

[neon dust]

recurvise error loop

[meager token]

yknow what actually

[proper marten]

didnt compliance already ?

[meager token]

im gonna try something

hold on

[small lotus]

someone tell me what the hell is happening i'm ong about to cry

[neon dust]

what is your issue

[small lotus]

sml says it found the dll for mrc but it's not showing it in the logs

nor is the mod working

[meager token]

this'll only apply if theyre apoc, coven, or town btw
wont work if theyre ego, NK, or CS

[kindred spire]

rip pandora

[meager token]

pandora may be plausible

but idk about everything else

[kindred spire]

give powerful pandora a 3 color gradient 🔥

[small lotus]

Give every faction a three color gradient 🔥

Fr tho i want single color options for factions with a gradient

I don't really like gradients

[proper marten]

what would you make jackal ?

[small lotus]

A darkish grey

[proper marten]

wait are ids different in vanilla

[meager token]

just

make the two colors the same

[small lotus]

Yeah ik but performance wise your mod would take a shit

[proper marten]

do gradients really take that much power ?

isnt it just loading colours and transitioning the card bkgd

[small lotus]

Calculation wise

Processing wise it's the same as everything else

[proper marten]

whats the difference ?

[meager token]

i think this is the best way to check for major roles??

idk

alch can rant at me later

this works for now

[scarlet palm]

Just set both ends of the gradient to the same color

[proper marten]

was just suggested

[small lotus]

Im just weirdly picky 😭

I've got way too many specifications for det to imolement for an edge case like me lmao

[rotund slate]

too many is better than too few imo

[small lotus]

So true

[meager token]

alright

i have now coded the thing

time to see if it works

[kindred spire]

I used to just remove gradients with Det's mod lmao

[meager token]

and now you have gradients on everything

well

almost everything

[kindred spire]

i didnt do teams

cuz teams

[meager token]

i think i did it

hold on

WOOOOOO

[small lotus]

Noice

[meager token]

also yeah it works for apocs too

hold on ima see if it works if their faction is misplaced

[kindred spire]

faction mentions moment

[meager token]

it does

:D

[kindred spire]

we love triple pest

[meager token]

dosent this also theoretically mean i could

color roles based on their suballignment

also do i implement this stuff into NK factions or not

[kindred spire]

wdym

[meager token]

if a jailor is arso aligned

that

[kindred spire]

i dunno

[tranquil kindle]

I don't think NK factions would be useful to color seperately

even if you get a 'good' role like War, you're still just a solo faction

[kindred spire]

-# tbh I still hate Pestilence and Famine being just horses in vanilla

[tranquil kindle]

there's no reason to differentiate from other members on your team if you're the only one on the team

[meager token]

true

[meager token]

im gonna make a list of factions

ill apply this to