THE SCISSORS BETTER THAN P.U.S

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https://x.com/KanamiStrinova/status/1920252711271837740

Kanami (@KanamiStrinova) on X

X · May 7, 2025, 11:01 PM

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I was about to say something very unhinged for joking then I remembered that this is the official serv...

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say it under her post on x

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Hell nah i don't want that on my X

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ok

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I can't say that on my X

XD

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got u

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Lowkey whats up with the hate on you kanami guy

im a fan

especially after than one post "you can talk to kanami..."

xddddd

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They use ai

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Of course it's ai but I can't understand the hate that peopel have for AI work and I'm an artist myself, the problem is more the lack of rules around it and terms. It's not art I agree with that but there is no reason to hate it. AI can do good things too as long as it don't entrave art business but it's more about it usage than the AI work itself

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Completely understandable! AI should be a tool, but shouldn't replace artists' (like ourselves) hard work. The reason this is getting hate is because OP is using AI instead of putting their art talents to use. It's not art, but it's in the "fanART" channel and being claimed to be "original" when ai in truth steals images and uses resources that harm our environment.
I agree with what you're saying, but your reasoning in this case should also be leading to you not approving of generated AI images.

Strinova wouldn't be possible without human artists, and the community both global and cn are made up of a bunch of really creative and talented people. Skills that have been honed and have a human soul out into them should be respected and honored. AI goes against that, and is an incredible insult to what we can achieve on our own. As hayao Miyazaki (studio Ghibli man) said, "I strongly feel that this is an insult to life itself."
Just saying, it's never too late to pick up a pen or pencil and get started.

I'm not here to argue though, I encourage everyone to do their own research and make their own conclusions. I feel like Id have this conversation over and over and I kinda have a life to live lol

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bro i created this model by myself - if you dont know how it works i can explain

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u just upload 3 screenshot of whatever you want in some programm and than AI training to generate it :/

its not stealing

its TRAINING

watch y2be videos

and sadly you cant stop future

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and please check my post i didnt use flair - "original art" its media/memes

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I havn't read it yet

Just do it

and oh god no

But i guess everyone has an opinion on it and there is no absolute truth

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yea thats right

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clRYEpKQygc

if you think that im stealing someone arts

here is my files from models - its just screenshots from game

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I'm only going to write this once, because in reality no one really cares, but the most important thing is that everyone should be happy with what they have, in my opinion. If it makes the creator and the people who see it happy, then I don't see the harm. The process of stealing to create an image is wrong, I'm OK with that. But you mustn't think that I can't draw so I'm using an AI. It's not an absolute truth, I already suspect that we don't all have 3 years to learn the basics, some people have a life, a job, a family and I can understand that people don't want to devote themselves to it, but even being able to appreciate an artist's hard-earned work and know-how doesn't mean you have to hate those who ‘generated’ it in a matter of seconds. It's not a disgrace to a career, or at least I absolutely don't see it as one, and artists' efforts are always recognised. Beyond the legal framework, which is another debate, it's not the absence of AI that's going to make someone come and commission an artist either (or not necessarily). Nobody's going to stop AI from advancing and today it's more a question of how to live with it, and yes, there are problems with the terms of course, which I think should be redefined, but the strinova community is made up of artists, of course, but also of people who are passionate in their own corners and who still have something to share, and it's becoming an insult to these people to prevent them from expressing themselves.

Of course, this is just my opinion and I don't want to make it the truth - everyone is free to think and act as they please.

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The term "training" is ai language for stealing just btw. You're using the character art that artists put their time and skill into to train a model to poorly recreate it for mass production. 3D model and 2D art is still art, just different mediums. No ai generated work is original, and you posted proof yourself.

Nowhere did I bash people for using it, I simply explained what AI generated images are, and offered insight from one of the worlds most renowned artists.

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if thinking like you then every artist need to create theiir own game and their own character - because if they will drawing character from other games - it will meanings "stealing"

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Nor did I assume you can't draw because of it! The point of art is that you accomplished it yourself and the work you put in pays off.
There's no excuse for not doing it, people without hands or arms can draw or paint. And have done so for centuries. There's thousands of inspiring stories that prove that there's are workarounds for drawing, even if its not good. Being good isn't the point, it's the effort thats important

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What? You do understand there are copyright laws for a reason for originality right. Which is also a huge thing generative ai is being investigated for, because of its "training" off of other people's work (stealing)

It's like cheating on a test

I'm clarifying what AI is, did I say cheating is bad? No, but it's assumed that cheating isn't good so therefore you're interpreting it that way

You are taking from strinovas modelers and artists to make some gross combination that is not as good as either

That's all

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my point was more about how art has always involved inspiration or borrowing - artists have always referenced each other, from renaissance painters to modern fan artists. drawing a character from an existing game isnt automatically theft, its often done in tribute, or as practice, or fan work, not to claim ownership, im not trying to say ai art is better or worse, its just different of art. its not meant to replace original artists

and im not saying that is my art or that i drew it

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AI is actively being used to replace human artists though, that's the thing.
AI does not reference, it steals. Generative models are so far from Renaissance artists it's not even a fair comparison. You are not making "fanart." It's just slop with no soul. That's not meant to be an insult, it's just a plain fact.

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k bro

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Wow so many... Words, concepts and conceptions. Anyways, fruitless debate, none of us is gonna change the state of mind in which he is and it's not a debate between two persons that gonna dress a perfect representation of reality and none of us can impose his vision. So... Well, ok I guess both side are right and wrong in their own way 😭

I don't know what to say I feel bad for provocating this

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why do you think you provocated it ?hahaha

thats okay bro its just dialogue

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Cuz I'm the one has reply to "this is Ai"

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I don't really call that a dialogue but ok