#Eika/Michelle specialist - Mansek

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Hello, I'm Mansek one of the top players in EU and peaked rank 1 EU. I main Eika/Michelle and im known for my Eika in the community. I played the CN version between beta and launch and peaked at masters 1. I have a good understanding of how you should play with and around your team in both a ranked and competitive environment. Besides my main agents i have decent knowledge about other riflers as well, especially Flavia, Ming, Yvette.

If you have any questions or want to book 1-on-1 session drop a comment on this thread

fast hornet
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How do I queue challenge mode?

velvet prairie
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Please carry me, Strinova Pro Coach!

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Yo I have been playing Aika, and what is better Awakening 2 or 3? @burnt socket

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fast hornet
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TL;DR

dark spade
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Hello Mansek I would also like to schedule a coaching session with you, the time can be discussed in dms. I can wait for however long you want HifumiCool .

I'm an APAC Neutron player in global and was pushing to Quark in CN before right before global dropped. I main Ming on attack and Michele on defense with Celestia and Lawine as back-ups if they got yoinked faster than me.

I've been getting taught by Iyu, Waffles and Chengcheng so I have been learning from other high ranking players but I want to keep expanding and learning more to improve my rank MicheleSmug .

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I do have an EU account I used to troll in ranked with my friends which somehow still netted me proton while I was hard trolling

junior marsh
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hello I want to book a 1-on-1 session for VOD review. Recently got placed into a high Neutron match, playing Michele and the first time felt so clueless.
I rarely play Michele, was forced to pick Michele since no one was picking her, so I want this session to focus mainly on decision making, pathing and not too deep about Michele mechanics, however I'm willing to learn Michele mechanics as well if we have more time for that session.
I already have the VOD recorded so we can set a schedule when you're up @burnt socket

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Hello mansek, i have a simple question about when i should retreat and reposition as michelle. When i get hit with ming q? Aika q? Lawine knife? I find myself sticking to corners alot to try and killtrap someone and often die because i don't know when to get out

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This depends on if your team can help you or not also sometimes you can try it anyways because your team can help you

lyric wing
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Heya I already think I am at a good level in terms of Michelle setups and playing around them but I still would like to have a session with you to polish them and pick up somethings which I might have missed

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AND I am clueless on defending some sites on maps since I usually play 1 site only, so I dont really have setups if I need to change sites

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analog bone
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Hello, I set up well with Michele on some sides, but sometimes the entire team of 4 decides to come to the side I'm on, and I struggle to set up properly when I switch to the other side. What are the ideal setups for each map and each side?

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nocturne flower
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You need a lot of help to hold that corner its hard

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Should I be sitting on link instead?

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But i often end up going back a link and giving them b site then play with my team

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I meant what if I couldn't hold A link

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My bad

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Ohh i thought the corner on the left side

nocturne flower
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yeye u can do killtraps there to surprise them for couple rounds

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For link you guys should be 3 people holding that if you have proper nades you guys need to hold it

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But if you are missing people you can go back base and regroup

nocturne flower
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Yeah it does but if you are holding it 2 vs 5 you cant really hold it

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Often you will have 3 people and will hold it

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You should never give them that push

nocturne flower
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But if you like stack C for some reason you should retake and go back base or u can try to go A main and play from there

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Yeah if that players die quickly its kinda strinover

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Sometimes I just retreat back into A site and play like a rat

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And kill the bomb planter

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Thats a good play

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Tbh tho I don't really know where to go from there

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You need your team to join you there

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Usually after attackers breach A link they'll ignore A site and just rush to our home so I'm safe temporarily

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Because when you kill planter they need to kill you

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if a lot of people trying to shoot you need to just stall for your team

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Alr

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Drawing fire is actually broken in this game

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Wall glide wall tech is funny

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Yeah, or playing flavia with ult would be huge here

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Unfortunately I'm usually on mich or yvette

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even if u can stall just a bit with paper its better than just dying

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For your team

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Would retreating to A long be a good play?

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I feel like it's either pathing there or haven

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it depends so much things hard to tell at this point

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But probably you cant make to long if someone is close to you if not yea

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thanks

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ill come back with aika questions next time

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modern isle
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Heya! Nice to meet you! Do you like to choose duration or cooldown for purgatory. I like cooldown for awakening 3, but I'm curious your take on it.

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Because as Eika if you dont have your q, fighting is hard you need your q asap

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Hey Mansek! I'd like to have a 1 on 1 session, we can set the schedule in dms. My time is GMT+7.

I tried Michele recently and I was clueless on how to play her. I mainly want to know her play style and the mindset of a Michele player.

tepid swan
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I want play Aika better but i was at APAC HuoLiDaLemon

sterile charm
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Hellooo, I have questions about Michelle. First of all, when you play with Michelle, how do you play? Is it more defensive or aggressive or depending on the team? Also, do you buy 3 turrets or 2 as dmg ?In addition to these, if you can give a few special tactics, it will be so nice. Thank you so much also love from Türkiye ^^

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tepid swan
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Does it able if me record some of my Eika match for you coaching?

balmy light
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Please teach me Aika coach!

junior marsh
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+rep
Did a VOD review Michele area 808
The first few minutes was a bit scuffed cuz he had internet issue and had trouble playing the VOD
We went through the VOD round by round, analyze mistakes made in the round, what could have been done better
He also gave feedback about turret placement, what angle to hold, when to be aggressive
At the end of the session, he showed me some new corners that I can play, and some more Michele setup on mid and B Area 8

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+rep
As discussed in dms we went over the vod of a Cosmite game where I got stomped 0-9ed in, he pointed out the problems that me and the whole team had to let this 0-9 situation happen. We also did some 1v1s in customs for him to teach me how to peak effectively, such as doing jump peaks properly etc etc.
Overall very education session and also had good humor during the session, would recommend. hikarithumbsup

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+rep
We went over my Aika and Michele vod, mainly focused on Aika. He pointed out what i did wrong and what i did good. He commented on how I need to take corners before engaging in a fight, some Aika tricks and what maps she's strong/weak at.
He also went over some aim training tips for me to improve as well as some Michele turret placements, her role and overall playstyle. Very good session, definitely recommended for beginners! KokonaHappy

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My glorious aika coach, i have come to bring news that i achieved my first michelle and aika aces in this game

balmy light
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shut up hokki

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Okay

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hokki ❤️

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tepid swan
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+rep
I never use shoulder fire yet, will try remember to use it

lyric wing
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+rep Really good teacher and very insightful about the game. Taught me a lot in all aspects ranging from A to Z.

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hello mansek, i feel like i need to ask how to properly utilise aika ult

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do i flank? run it down haven with ming?

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more and more recently ive been feeling like i get gunned down before i can properly set up a good ult and get my picks

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either my targets manage to glide to a corner and escape the ult or they get backed up

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i feel like some situations theres too many chokes for me to ult

opal pike
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Hello, I would like to book a one on one session to get some feedback on my recent ranked games with Aika, when is the closest time you are available? @burnt socket

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nocturne flower
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mr michelle coach i recently bought her skin

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feeling cute

dark spade
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That is indeed very cute

velvet prairie
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felt cute, becoming a celestia main XinghuiFlower

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Hey I feel like I'm very much playing Eika poorly, I find her fun but I feel like I just, can't always play her because the opponents are usually much better than I am. Idk what to work on specifically as I feel like I'm just bad at everything

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anything fundamental I need to know about playing Eika? Not her kit ik how that works but like how to move with her and fight with her? I often lose fights even in 1v1 scenarios sometimes INSIDE cage

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I've been told I shouldn't be trying to flank with her and that I should be the one controlling objective yet everytime I try that I get beamed down first

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So I can't consider that a viable strategy from my experience

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opal pike
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+rep it's been a good session and I have learned a lot about my critical mistakes and how I can fix them!

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hello mansek, i can't aim properly, i want a session with you, and michelle turret placement.

glossy trail
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hey I'd like to have a 1 on 1 session

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Sir, how do you play aika on space labs? I often feel like other than pushing psst chokes and delaying site pushes in post plant I don't do much

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# burnt socket Try to stay away from mid as aika after you take the site usually you want to wa...

I usually play with my team so if we do get to breach a site I'm with them and won't really lack behind. But before we do would you say aika is strong in mid? I feel so because of her aoe and forced paper being favourable to her. Also, when do you start watching flank? After clearing site or Right after getting into it?
Lastly, I've been told that if there's a flank we should just all w key into the weaker side. For example, if we take A site and 3 people decide to flank through main while mich alone is Holding the way to their spawn, i will usually w key and run down michelle and go attack the flankers from behind. Should I not do this and play for objectives instead? Just making sure that they don't get into site is enough?

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Also, I'd like to ask about windy town later once i have enough concrete questions about it so

peak narwhal
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hi Mansek, if you have time can you teach me in how to play Eika better, I'm really bad at aiming and some game sense on when to fight and use ult...

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Follow up on ming and output firepower with her or?

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behind the boxes or stuff

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There's 2 boxes I'm thinking of

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towards mid entrance

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Oh mid entrance

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idk you can cook yourstyle but watching lurk somehow while they are working on some site

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is good

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I usually watch there as well, but usually get caught off gaurd when the lurk doesn't come from middle but from B long

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yeah keep your ears open

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Alright

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they gotta make sound while coming to u

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People moving in middle won't be heard by me when I'm outside right? So if i hear anything i should be able to tell where they come from

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sweet lichen
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+Rep. Gave solid advice on what I can improve on during a live game and how to improve and fix certain habits.

velvet prairie
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my goat, saved my family from a burning building and later bought me 10 lambos

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+Rep

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@burnt socket can i send you a cauchy vod for vod review? no need live or anything, i also just dont talk alot so i feel like theres not much difference between me being there live. just video or text reviews is fine as well.

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also im apac so its quite hard to schedule something together

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sure u can

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Thanks again

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dm me

coral flower
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+rep it was a very good session and his explanation was very good, he listened to each of my questions and offered different solution suggestions.

peak narwhal
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+rep the coaching session was helpful and full of info that's easy to digest and learn from.

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+rep step by step review for where I'm wasting my utility and my bad habits. Also entertained my ideas for new plays i want to try out. also pointed out some decision making mistakes and i shouldn't always try to run to my team mates if I'm in a weird position. I didn't get any tech i can steal tho KanamiSad

junior marsh
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coach do you offer 1-on-1 VOD review for non-Michele, non-Eika agents?

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Hey coach, what's some tips and movement tech to flank on Eika? Even on the toughest maps

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+Rep

I received a lot of points to work on, they were provided in a way that I can work on them 1 by 1 like a checklist which makes them easier to digest.

I still may not fully grasp some of them but he told me to let him know if i had any additional questions in the future.

Thanks again Mansek, Ill be working on my mechanics more and will look to be more proactive in initiating fights

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Recently I've been getting alot of double marksmen games and i just feel like I don't work well with them

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I've even had a game where we lost a 7-1 lead cuz my team wanted to double marksmen on cauchy instead of picking a ming

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aika likes to play with riflers ofc meredith,celestia,lawine enables her so much

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Also, what about baimo? Double shotgun seem to usually be looked down on but idrk why

junior marsh
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+rep
Went for a Maddelena VOD review on Windy Town. Not his main but I still got some good advice
We discuss what I did good and what I could do better.
He pointed out some of the paint spot, utility usage and criticized my gunfight hygiene because I didn't abuse jump that much

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and not enough firepower for midrange

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If I main Eika who do I play on defence

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Mansek what should i do if I'm often playing at a pace too fast for my ming as aika

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Sometimes i die for it, more often than not i just waste my q i feel like especially when i play a2

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Idk why but there are some terribly slow mings

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heavy cove
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Fire?

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heavy cove
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Oh yeah I forget she is just tachanka

fresh mauve
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hi mansek

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plz teach

nocturne flower
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Hi felt

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Plz carry

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as aika i dont think you should lead pushes

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maybe sometimes

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but yea just follow people or do your own thing

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nocturne flower
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When i push i can still get space cuz the enemies haven't rotated yet

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But if i follow ming ion wanna push anymore cuz i see 4 people in site

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But ming pushes anyway

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Sometimes with bomv

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Bomb

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He's too slow and lets the enemy come so like

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I genuinely feel like i have to go take that space

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Like these mings in plat usually don't use their head at all

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if u see your ming pushes something he shouldnt just dont follow its okay as well u cant do anything

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if he is slow dont play around him play for yourself

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Like lurking?

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lurking is a option

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holding flank is a option

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for examply on cauchy A site

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Ye

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if he is pushing tower you dont always need to push tower with him

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just stay lower or try to fight platform

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it depends how enemy plays as well but

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you dont always need to play with your ming

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thats the point

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Okay

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Thank you sensei

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inland arch
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do you post your gameplay or general tips anywhere? Exercises one can do to improve

heavy cove
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Would we be able to do a VoD sesh

nocturne flower
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I just got my first aika ace in ranked

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heavy cove
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I got a double ace as Eika!

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heavy cove
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The stinger is a good secondary right

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I GOT ONTO TOP 100 AIKAS APAC

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its good for heat farm

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not so much for damage

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lol

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I think shes the highest next to Ming

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What should I do if the team does not take the space created by the duelist?

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Do I just not push and play around them?

severe kindle
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anyone knows where can I get vods of high level eika gameplay ?

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lost notch
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Starting to main eika on attack and could use advice in general to hopefully get better at it.
Would love coaching for defense too though I main Leona there but again I just want to get better in general.

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Mr aika coach, with the recent nerfs to aika, making her heat gain substantially worse from summons, should i still go heat conversion rate before cooldown?

lost notch
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at least thats what i do

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i have no clue about leona

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Well im looking to get better in general too maybe but idk. I just know im missing something

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or 1-on-1 session

lost notch
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1 on 1 would be prefferable

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fire rate> armour> cd > a2/a3 > string dmg > heat% (if a2) > reload speed > spread control?

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spread third for me

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sometimes second depending on the map

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oke

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+Rep In-depth vod review - included many gameplay tips and tricks including when and how to push, as well general gameplay advice.

cosmic saddle
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What patch gave her nerfs?

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cn

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yeah that's a different server

heavy cove
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Wait Eika got double layers of Nerfs?

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Gawd Damb

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eika got one nerf

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she gains less energy shooting "passive" stuff

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like maomao turret

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Ontop of the damage and fire rate nerfs

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yikes

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oh yeah it isnt one

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mb

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tbh that's fine. I don't use her ult for damage, I use it as a zoning/stop hitting me tool

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blue fire used to one-shot enemies probably they removed that

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im not sure tho

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I think it puts it just below the threshold so heavy armor users will still be alive

fierce lava
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Almighty HuoLiDaLemon specialist, can you help me table the turns in my matches?

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(teach me how to position properly and stuff)

nocturne flower
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@burnt socket am i cute?

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ashen fiber
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I bought a 39 Gram Mouse!

severe kindle
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Could I get a session, or vod review ? :3

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+Rep
gave me life changing advice (by teaching me not to die) 🤯

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+rep
told my friend how to right hand peek properly (lifechanging advice)

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@burnt socket look!!!!

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omg he is so good

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@burnt socket can i send over a replay for review? I feel like it's a really fun game for me, but unfortunately I didn't record it. It's ming/michelle, and it was really close so i'd like for it to get reviewed

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Oh and also, should I record the replay and put it on yt or send you the replay download?

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Send me on dms

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junior marsh
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short wadi
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gegu...

velvet prairie
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I dunno if I can +rep a second time, but I vod reviewed again and it's really helpful to teach me how to properly take up space.

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+rep

short wadi
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many +rep

junior marsh
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coach I got in top 800 APAC playing non-duelist agents and solo HuoLiDaLemon

nocturne flower
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coach i might need a break from aika

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I LOST THE 50/50

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If I'm holding an angel as yvette

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But they smoke knife me

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Is it viable for me to abuse invis and dodge it

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And keep holding

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They definitely know my location though

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if they dont expect is it will work tho if you beam them c:

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probably not worth tho its just a gamble

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most of the time it will not work

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yeah thats worth

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Okay tsank you

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Michele feels a little OP

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+rep

short wadi
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@burnt socket i need that mansek review!!

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short wadi
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send it on dms

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🫡

short wadi
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I'll find it later

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KokonaGoof 🐏

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Since hokki got grounded imma do her job

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WHA

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😹

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weekly vod for u g

nocturne flower
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Senpai loves me so much?

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junior marsh
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I'm flexing for my beloved coach HuoLiDaLemon
I'm in top 200 APAC let's goooo
Controller solo to Quark will be achieved

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wait I'm the only one who's play controller on both T and CT in top 200 AudreyWhat

cosmic saddle
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So with the changes to the blue upgrades I assume fire rate is the optimal choice?

junior marsh
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coach I need help on Yvette, this agent is so hard wtf

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sometimes i buy spread first instead of stringfy depending on the map

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junior marsh
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on the other hand my Maddie is getting clean, I can perform in Singus/SSs lobby

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What can I do to find my sens

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I'm not really a aim guy but this tips can help you

  • Don't look others and think oh shi my sens is high/low sens is just preference
  • if you are not sure your sens is high/low you can record your gameplay and watch how you aim and see if you are overaiming or underaiming than change your sens according to that
  • and when you are changing to a sens i suggest you 2x lower/higher it for example if you are going from 2 to 1.5 just send it to 1 and play 1-2 day like that than slowly go up it usually helps if u want to change your sens
    in the end sens is just comfort thing dont think about it too much i know people on high elo play 1.1 sens 800 dpi / 5 sens 800 dpi both works
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Dear coach
I want to be good at eika. You know eika got seriously nerf after release because of that Im not touching eika ever since but because there upcoming eika legendary skin I want to be eika main. There any overall view what eika main goal as duelist how to got great value as her and what awaken should I master it.

For your knowledge I use almost all agent especially Ming, Meredith, Kokona, Kanami, Lawine, Michelle, Flavia, Fuchsia, Manddelena. My style kinda chaos and push like there no tommorow as duelist. Because of that I always ded as eika. So I need information or tips how eika supposed to be used

Thank you 🥰

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@burnt socket grrr weekly vod tmr meow

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# alpine turtle Dear coach I want to be good at eika. You know eika got seriously nerf after re...

As aika you shouldn't think yourself as a duelist. Aika is a selfish character and because she has shotgun you dont usually push with her. When you are pushing site you have couple options like just watching lurk/follow your ming and support him/just do your own thing in site. And most important part about aika's kit is her skills try to focus on getting value from them. Aika's weapon is pretty easy so she is not aim dependent that much if u wanna be good aika Positioning and using skills optimally is the main spots u want to focus on improving

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coach I need VOD reviews KanamiCry

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I'm not even thinking

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When I play

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😹😹😹😹😹

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I was trolling the entire day

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I didn't realise i had to be serious

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# alpine turtle Dear coach I want to be good at eika. You know eika got seriously nerf after re...

im not mansek, but i play a lot of Aika, the way i see it at least, u just lurk for a bit and try and find someone alone u can kill, if u get the kill ur will have "blue fire" (the passive thingy) essentially what im tryna say is, u play slow to look for a kill and then snowball into more kills with blue fire passive (you save your Q if possible to use when u have blue fire available). If u cant find a kill u can slowly build bar up by periodically dealing damage, thats a bit harder to do tho

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as mansek said

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u aint a duelist

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u hella selfish character

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look for 1v1s, or someone that isnt expecting u

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and then snowball that into massive blue fire dmg

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usually 1 real good use of ur Q will win a round

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They usually just ran out before my Q active fully

velvet prairie
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It really depends how u want to play

alpine turtle
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I see noted
Oh yeah what awaken you choose 2 or 3?

velvet prairie
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2 always

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Also the way I use my Q, after I've built up charge, I try and get to a chokepoint and just plop my Q in a big group, for the sole point of damage. I essentially try to hit as many people as possible with my Q

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Pretty much as soon u fill up passive, u wanna use your Q as quickly as possible

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Somewhere good

alpine turtle
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Ok nice info

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Thank you

velvet prairie
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🙏

tribal brook
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Hey @burnt socket , still doing VOD reviews by chance?

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How do i get coach cungchim

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@burnt socket any chance of a vod review pls

hollow wing
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@burnt socket prefer vod file or actual gameplay recorded?

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actual gameplay recorded is always better
i can see your minimap and your aim better

nocturne flower
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Coach I miss you

alpine turtle
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EikaCrying Eika got nerf again

tribal brook
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~~30 dmg nerf with blue ult

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the timer to use her ult I don't like personally

patent dock
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eika is bad enough why do they have to make her worse

burnt socket
proper vector
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proper vector
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is it true that if you let yourself get hit by explosion u get extra ult charge?

burnt socket
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it can be jumping off the map/dying to bomb/dying on the ground

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you still get the credits + ult point

patent dock
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+rep

paper osprey
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Hey, looking for a coach to help me get better on Attacker side. I think I am OK on defence. I am really bad at keep track of team and following. I can't be leader cuz I have bad aim

vernal notch
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Can u coach me on lawine?

errant talon
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Can i ask for some coaching? chatting

vernal notch
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Mansek best coach ong

errant talon
vernal notch
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I have super secret mansek technique files

cosmic saddle
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Hey I haven't played since mid-season 3. What's all different for Eika?

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# cosmic saddle Hey I haven't played since mid-season 3. What's all different for Eika?

im slowly getting back to game and didnt have time to test out aika that much
but it seems like hp change hurt aika significantly because all her abilities is around dealing dmg. percent wise she is dealing less dmg now and you cant save her ult anymore u need to use all 3 in 15 seconds so no more kill 1 then wait kill another one type gameplay which was broken.

lyric atlas
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Looking for a coach to help me work around my tm8s and overall improve. Been having no improvement yet pouring countless of hours everyday so I'd like to get a bit of a boost

knotty dragon
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!mansek

dark moss
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coach me my goat!!

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