#How to bind account

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fiery pagoda
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Specifically for Steam

  1. You need to get past the first boss, and finish your character/name creation
  2. You need to open the menu and click settings
  3. From there click "Other" tab
  4. That will open up a page that has an option to click called Bind Account
  5. Inside Bind Account you will see a list of accounts you can link there, Including your Netease Account

Currently linking accounts on steam is bugged with the last update and the option to bind accounts was accidentally removed

For anyone who needs help with account binding/deletion because of accidental making two seperate characters, please make a ticket. We can't guarantee the workaround we found will work for everyone's problem, worse case you will still need to reach out to support.

How to Bind your account on official launcher/mobile
Login with the Netease account you want on the official launcher/mobile
Click the small arrow in the bottom left, and then click on the icon of a person
Select Link Account in the menu that pops up
Follow the instructions inside the menu that appears after selecting Link Account

When you have finished linking your accounts, you will be able to login on your desired platforms with the Netease account you used to link the other platforms

**You can also link accounts by using the Account center on the official website: **
https://www.wherewindsmeetgame.com/

Where Winds Meet is an epic open-world action-adventure RPG rooted in the rich legacy of Wuxia. Set during the turbulent era of tenth-century China, you take on the role of a young sword master, uncovering forgotten truths and the mysteries of your own identity. As the wind stirs across mountains and rivers, so too will your legend rise.

slim tundra
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There is no unbind option in-game. Website says mail to wherewindsmeet@global.netease.com but their reply was to figure it out myself from customer service center. I can't find that section. Where it is ? Any idea ?

lost lodge
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if its not english set it to english, restart the game and then check again

bold grove
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Hello! I installed Where Winds Meet on Steam and launched the game without realizing I needed to link my character before opening it. Could you please delete my Steam character? Steam profile. I played using the official launcher version of the game before it was released on Steam. Thank you very much in advance for your attention. name of my pj lvl 1 is pansaurio , I cannot link my character bound to my NetEase account to my Steam account due to this problem

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The summary of what follows is as follows: launch the game from the official launcher, run , and read the Steam post. When launching the game on Steam, you notice that no player appears. However, a player does appear in the launcher version, but no notification is given that a player is installed on Steam.

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🥺

lost lodge
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im not game support sorry

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i cant help you

merry pivot
lost lodge
merry pivot
# lost lodge Is your language set to English?

i do, but it has nothing to do with it since i quote:

"For security reasons, accounts cannot be unlinked manually after linking.
If you need to unlink an account, please contact our Customer Support at wherewindsmeet@global.netease.com for assistance."

and for account data deletion:

"If the account you want to link already contains its own in-game character and can't be linked—but you wish to delete that data to complete linking—please contact our Customer Support at wherewindsmeet@global.netease.com for assistance."

lost lodge
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i see

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[doesnt work]

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wait this is the wrong post lol

merry pivot
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linking alone works as in original message, but you can't unlink at all or link with account that has already data

lost lodge
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How to bind account

merry pivot
slate hare
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There is no option for unbinding which is why I sent email about it and this is what I got:
Dear Player,
We sincerely apologize for the delayed response and appreciate your continued patience.
Thank you for your feedback. If you wish to unbind your account, we suggest you go to Customer Service and find Unbind Account to unbind it. Please try binding again after unbinding. Thank you for your understanding and support!
If you have any other questions or suggestions, please don't hesitate to contact us. We would also greatly appreciate it if you could share your evaluation of our service!
Best Regards,
Support Team

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Like what am I supposed to do there is Customer service page

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I found it

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nvm

plain flax
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Dev be like, "How do you bind your account? Let's make it a puzzle too."

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Did y'all try to unbind on netease game club website?

slate hare
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and unbind easily

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But it's kinda bugged for ps5, my character doesn't even load correctly so I just continued to play on pc

silk carbon
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This isn't really what I'm dealing with, but I can't seem to make my own post, so ...

I try to bind my email address. Received a 6 letter code. Could only enter 5 letters within the WWM interface. Invalid code. So... now what?

cobalt sluice
carmine skiff
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I’m stuck with the same thjng, trying to use my steam progress to link to ps5, and I see zero user menu in the ps5 title screen before starting

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And on steam it says link failed for ps5, game data has already been linked, but I hadn’t don’t that

silk carbon
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carmine skiff
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theres no user center menu anywhere

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Are the guides even accurate? I played on Steam, and it only shows bind accounts, there is no user center menu in the Other section

carmine skiff
fiery pagoda
carmine skiff
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Well this thread is about binding accounts, I already posted what the issue was, and no response. I gave the information, unless theres more youre needing, please ask.

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Binding account from Steam to PS5, the documentation provided is off, there is no user center menu in the steam version, nor do I see an option in the title screen on PS5 for user center to link before making a character.

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I see the bind option on Steam

lost lodge
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Sorry it’s 2:48am for me.. I’m not really looking at discord lol

vital basinBOT
lost lodge
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I get it, you want to play the game too

fiery pagoda
carmine skiff
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Customer service option only lets me unbind Steam, and the gameclub doensnt show a character associated with it

fiery pagoda
carmine skiff
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Lemme try that, I initially did it via steam, I'll install via the launcher and see what happens.

For some reason the PS5 version is showing the starting character account on title screen now but its not the steam character just the generic name of the character for tutorial.

fiery pagoda
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All we need to try this is on the main menu anyway so you don't need to enter

carmine skiff
fiery pagoda
carmine skiff
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carmine skiff
# fiery pagoda Okay, just respond to this message and I'll respond when I see it

Yeah once I'm in on launcher in game too, it shows user center and bind as menu options, and both result in the same error for binding to PS5, I must of messed it up prior, I started on steam and not sure if I didn't bind the netease first, then PS5.

On the main menu I logged in before entering the game, and it was still giving me issues for PS5 but it showed steam was linked with the netease

fiery pagoda
# carmine skiff Yeah once I'm in on launcher in game too, it shows user center and bind as menu ...

It isn't possible to link two accounts that already have characters made at the moment. If you ended up creating two seperate characters. The one on steam/netease account and the other on ps5 account you'll need to reach out to Customer Support to have them remove the link:

wherewindsmeet@global.netease.com.

You will need to include your game ID of the account you want removed
A description of the problem to help them quickly figure out what you are specifically asking for help on
Any screenshots you may have like the ones showing it preventing you from linking

carmine skiff
fiery pagoda
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fiery pagoda
safe bane
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Hi so I cant see my friends on my friends list. I have them added but can't see who is who. It always says loading or unknown. Then with guild I can't search or see any guilds on my end but my friends can see everything fine. I was wondering if anyone else has this problem and know a solution. I have screenshots of the issue if I can post

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if anyone can help me please send me a dm I just want to enjoy the game...

runic ermine
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rocky sun
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What am I suppose to enter to unbind my account? Everything I put in tells me confirmation text incorrect

steep moat
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I started on Steam and created a character. I also created a NetEase account and linked it within my steam client. I want to play that character on PS5 also. I played the tutorial on PS5 but didn't create a character; just logged out of the client. Now when I try and link my PSN account from within the steam client it tells me that I can't because it's already linked to a NetEase account. What do I need to do to fix this?

unborn mortar
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So I went into the NGP 'Mail' Binding menu; it asks for the email you are binding and it asks for something beneath that? It just says 'Please enter the...' without further explanation--what needs to be placed in there?

jagged tartan
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Is something wrong with the NPG mail binding? It doesn't let me type out my email.

limpid jolt
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hello, i have an account on ps5. how do i bind it to pc? if i created a new character on pc, does linking account overwrite the new data

solemn vigil
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It tells me the game data has already been linked when I try to bind the PSN to my steam game but I havent linked anything else

plain flax
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Y'all should link the account first before starting on any platform. For example: if you start on steam, then you bind your account to Netease account and bind your PSN at the same time under the same window. Or vice versa. Start playing on PSN, bind your PSN and Steam account to Netease under the same window. The reason is you will not see the user menu setting in the login page. You only see user menu setting and the binding option when you're already in the game.

raw steppe
solemn vigil
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Im trying to link a steam account character to my PS5 so I can play on my PS5 as well but when clicking bind acount and link psn it brings up an error about "the game data has been linked to an account", the psn account im planning on connected doesnt have a character so I dont know what the issue is

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And usercenter isnt found anywhere either its just the bind account button in the other area of the settings

chrome hound
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Same here I emailed them no response yet 😞

versed torrent
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same here and no one ever replies bruh

tired nimbus
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Customer service isn’t working right now

ionic karma
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how to blind account

amber zenith
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dd

obtuse fossil
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I can't link netease or steam and don't have an account or character in either

obtuse fossil
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peak yarrow
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For anyone trying to unbind an account I think I figured it out. TLDR I created a Steam account and played for a few days. Wanted to play that character on PS5. As soon as the game launches for the first time on PS5 it instantly binds your PSN account to Where Winds Meets. This happens before you name your character. So at this point you cannot bind your Steam Character to Play Station.

So on PS5 I fully created a character and named him. Once in game go to setting, hold V for customer service. A pop up will appear and select Unbind account. You have to have two accounts to use the unbind so I created a second Netease acount. You have to bind your PSN account to the alternate Netease account. After that you can then Unbind your PSN account.

After I unbound the PSN account I turned off my PS5 and logged into the game on Steam. On the Steam version of the game I went I went to the bind section and was now able to successfully bind my Steam character and PSN character. Turned the game off on Steam. Turned back on my PS5 and after a minute of loading it allowed my to log in the correct character.

It was a bit of work and emailing customer service was no help like others have experienced. Hope this helps.

south musk
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I can't bind my account i am clicking it and nothing shows up

hushed maple
peak yarrow
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fiery pagoda
lunar shoal
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OLA

astral matrix
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Hihi random question - not sure if I truly understood the steps 😅

So I started on Steam and would like to link the account to Epic and a newly created NetEase account. (I do not have consoles, so I will not be linking to the PS5 version of the game).

Am I right to say that I should not start the game on Epic and from the NetEase launcher - until i linked them up via my Steam character first?
(I think if I understand it correctly - if I were to launch the game on Epic or NetEase before linking my Steam account.. it will "create" a character data and I will not be able to link it to Steam... am I right?)

Thanks!

fiery pagoda
# astral matrix Hihi random question - not sure if I truly understood the steps 😅 So I starte...

That's correct, do not click start on the epic or start the game on Netease launcher before properly linking your accounts.

I'm not as familiar with the Epic launcher, but on the Netease, as long as you don't click start you are fine to be on the main menu.

You can also bind your accounts from that main menu on the Netease launcher, if you are having trouble finding it on steam using the guide above. It will appear in the bottom right corner with an option to click to open up the rest of the options. One of those is bind account.

Just do not start the game on those other launcher. If you do you'll be prevented from linking them to your Steam character.

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jaunty scaffold
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Hello. I cannot bind my account from the PS5, because I cannot login to the Netease account. Everytime I try, it says "Request parameter error".

steel pilot
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i have my main account on PC and i want to merge it with my PS5 but everytime i hit link to playstation i get a screen that pops up saying "The game data has been linked to an account, and cannot be linked again"

mild palm
steel pilot
mild palm
mild palm
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if so, thats really cool hopefully they wont patch the ‘fix’ because i wanna play on pc but i started on ps5 already lol

mild breach
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Does anyone know why I am encountering the problem of “your account doesn’t not support purchases on this platform”.

I’m trying to buy pearls but the game won’t let me…..

south pasture
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I have a netease account and linked it to my steam character. I was testing some stuff out and went to unbind them then logged out the account. Now, there's no way for me to log back in. I clicked start and it just created a new character and no option to login. Did I just lose my first character due to terrible game design?

fiery pagoda
# south pasture I have a netease account and linked it to my steam character. I was testing some...

No, it's working as its currently setup. Re-link your netease account and it should be there again. Problem is you made a new character after unlinking so now you need to follow the guide in #game-support because only the game support team can help you delete the new character.

When its done, download the official launcher and make sure to link your accounts again. The official launcher has the option to link accounts on the main menu before launching the game

steel pilot
inland elm
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@fiery pagoda i want to bind my account but when i click it no popup show in steam

mild palm
fiery pagoda
peak yarrow
tough elk
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I only can write to the support, after pressing V and I did all the steps before, with new NetEase Account 🙁

pine ferry
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My old username is taken from the steam acc I unbinded, is there no way to get it back lol

fallow gale
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bind is safe

worthy root
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Guys I found it ,using steam platform. if u click the bind account button and nothing happens , it means netease is supposedly banned or blocked from ur ip or country. Im not promoting but use vpn to bind ur steam account to netease or any other acc.(Worked for me steam to netease)

empty palm
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So I have a steam account. Good. I binded to netease. Then I started game on ps5, but didn't create c haracter. however now I cannot link steam to ps5....so what do I do?

astral matrix
# peak yarrow For anyone trying to unbind an account I think I figured it out. TLDR I created ...

@empty palm you can refer to this

You will need to create a new (second) netease account and bind your current PS5 character data (let's call it character Y) to it first.

Then you unlink the PS5 from it and shut down the PS5. (So now character Y is only linked to the second netease account and not on any other platforms)

Log into your Steam account (which has your character, which we can call character X) and then link to PS5 from there

Then you can turn on your PS5 and it should have your Steam character (chatacter X) data there

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The main thing is... as long as you started the game on a platform, it creates a data file (even when you haven't customized or "created" your character yet) - in your case, you started the game on PS5 so the game already created a file.

Which therefore prevents you from binding to your Steam as there are now "two" separate characters

It's very tedious and there's not really a roundabout way in doing it.. hopefully I've explained it (?)

empty palm
delicate berry
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Hi. I was playing where winds meet using steam and I unbind my steam account by mistake but I have netease account bind. How can I link my steam account again with the netease account that has my progression?

delicate berry
lost rapids
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I emailed support because I have my net ease account but I bound my google and steam accounts together before my net ease account. I need a net ease passport to unbind the accounts but I can’t figure out how to get it. The link seems to be broken

astral matrix
delicate berry
astral matrix
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Hope that works for you! I'm not too sure as I did not unbind my accounts 😅

lost rapids
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I need to unlink my steam account so I can relink it through the netease launcher. I tried linking it while logged in on netease and it says it's already linked

hollow vale
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Anyone have any idea how to bind a new account on your disc profile that already has one? I had to restart because I wanted to play legendary

mild breach
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Not sure if anyone else has encountered this issue, I have emailed the WWM support team 12 times and they just reply to me using AI.... I initially made an account on PS5, I bound it to my netease account. I then unbound my PS5 account from my netease account and it appeared on my PC Netease one. It does not allow me to buy echo beads becuase it says that my account does not support purchases on this platform. When I emailed the Devs they said it was because my account was originally made on ps5 and i need to buy through them. But now when I try to relink my netease account to my PS5 it says the account is already linked to another account........ how am I supposed to fix this if i cant bind my netease account to my ps5 account again!!!!

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Sorry that is quite long winded but I have literally emailed them SOOOOOO many times.

lost rapids
mild breach
lost rapids
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It looks like if I wait two weeks after deleting my netease account, the email I used can be reused

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I might just do that. I’ll hang around the server still though

mild breach
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I can’t delete my netease account cause that’s what ive been playing on. My ps5 account doesnt even have the character on there anymore even tho i made him there

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I’m literally trying to put money into the game and they aren’t letting me 🤣🤣

lost rapids
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I gave them both I.D.s trying to sort this out. You know what their response was? “We suggest going in game to unbind your accounts”

Now, I would do this. Except I have two with IDs not connected to netease. And my actual netease account but I can’t link my steam and Gmail because it’s already linked together to the account that says “after checking your account doesn’t have a netease passport so you can’t unlink them”

grizzled totem
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The email customer support sent me to the ingame customer support which sent me to the discord customer support and I still can't obtain my closed beta test rewards from the sixteen lanes NPC after binding my steam account to closed beta test gmail I used

chilly gorge
grizzled totem
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its west/left of the tp

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lost rapids
lost rapids
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I forgot that I could just reply to a closed ticket to re-open it

median bolt
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bind-account channel missing on discord?

craggy meteor
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Where is the bind-account channel?

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bind-account

lost rapids
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I heard back from support and they told me how to unbind my account. I sent pictures explaining that I can’t unbind them. Their suggestion? You can unbind them

lost rapids
tough kelp
lost rapids
pearl sinew
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Any way to unbind my account? I had to restart with a new character and now I cant bind for the reward.

lost rapids
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You can contact support as long as you have a netease account bound first

static cairn
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hi guys, I played WWM and levelled up an acc on epic launcher and then my pc died. it was binded to google. now i download it on steam on my new pc and i dont know how to get back to that account pls help

vital basinBOT
lost rapids
barren acorn
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I need some help with this. I sent an email to netease to delete my ps5 account so I can bind my pc account. I still did not receive a reply. It sent it last week. Is this normal?

lost rapids
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Hmm. They usually say within 12-48 hours

steel vapor
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I originally created my character on PS5 and have since switched to play on Steam, however I am unable to make any purchases in the store while on Steam, I followed the steps to unbind my PSN account but I am still facing the same issue, any idea what can be done to fix this?

fiery pagoda
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For anyone who needs help with account binding/deletion because of accidental making two seperate characters, please make a ticket. I can't guarantee the workaround we found will work for everyone's problem, worse case you will still need to reach out to support.

barren acorn
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they are sending me the same generic message three times:

"
Dear Player,

We sincerely apologize for any inconvenience caused. Regarding your request, we are unable to perform this operation for you directly.
If you're using another platform:
1.Visit our official site:
https://www.wherewindsmeetgame.com
2.Download the PC client
3.Log in with your target account
4.Navigate to User Center → Account Deletion
5.After deletion, a 14-day cooling period applies before creating new characters
Alternatively, you may create a new account to begin fresh.
For further assistance, contact us anytime. We will be much appreciated if you can evaluate our service. Thank you.

Best regards,
Support Team
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Where Winds Meet is an epic open-world action-adventure RPG rooted in the rich legacy of Wuxia. Set during the turbulent era of tenth-century China, you take on the role of a young sword master, uncovering forgotten truths and the mysteries of your own identity. As the wind stirs across mountains and rivers, so too will your legend rise.

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I think you cant delete ps 5 account....

mystic flame
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I only wanted to link my PS5 to my steam account. Support said i should unbind my account - so i did. HUGE Mistake. Now i am not able to play my account anymore cause there is not "Login" option in the titel screen. I have linked my steam account to neatease before, which will maybe help in the future. Support is basically useless sent the same "Bind" Template over and over again 🙁 All i want is my account back. The whole account binding thing is so ridiculous. Worst implementation ever - sorry. I have this problem for 3 days now and absolutely no help 🙁
Will now try the standalone client... maybe this helps.

mystic flame
barren acorn
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I think it takes time after unbinding to be able to bind again

lost rapids
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I wonder if netease account unbinding will ever be a thing. I can't bind my netease to my steam becAause I accidentally bound it to the launcher

mossy ember
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Tbh all of these cross progression/save tutorials stating to “bind an account before creating a character” should be rephrased to “bind the account before even starting the game”. I originally created my account on steam, tried to boot up on psn, there was no account bind option on the home screen like the tutorial stated but it said I can do it in game. It was not clear if I had to do it on steam or on psn so I started the game on PSN and lo and behold I’m screwed… technically haven’t created that character yet.

lost rapids
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deep sundial
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guys i have a question. so i downloaded the game on steam, played the game but did not bind my account. Now i want to start fresh, so i can just download the client create a new account the link that account with steam right? so I can start the game either from steam or the client with the new account?

fiery pagoda
# deep sundial guys i have a question. so i downloaded the game on steam, played the game but d...

You'll need to create two netease accounts. One you link to your Steam you want to delete, and one for the new account you want to keep on the Netease launcher.

How to delete your Steam
1.Login with it on the Official launcher with your new Netease account you want to use to delete Steam
2. Click the small arrow in the bottom left corner and select the icon of a person
3. Click link account in the menu that opens and follow the instructions inside to link
4. Go back to the menu you selected Link account and select Account Deletion, and follow the instructions in the menu that appears.
5. Wait 7 days, Note: Do not login to the account you want to delete during this 7 day period it will cancel the Account Deletion if you login two times)

How to Bind your Steam after Account Deletion:

  1. Login with the Netease account you want on the official launcher
  2. Click the small arrow in the bottom left, and then click on the icon of a person
  3. Select Link Account in the menu that pops up
  4. Follow the instructions inside the menu that appears after selecting Link Account

When you have finished linking your account you will be able to login on Steam with the same account you play on the Netease launcher

naive herald
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Hi all! I see that there are many people with similar issues - I am also here with an account linking issue. Here's my details/background:

  1. Created an account on Steam (account I want to keep).
  2. Downloaded on PS5: but couldn't find "Link Account" button on the title screen. Pressed "Play"...
    --> it created a new game account. (note: I thought I had to open the game to get to the settings window to link that account..I see that is incorrect..

I tried reaching out to the customer support email, but as others have said, I have just been receiving "Bind" template emails that do not help me. 🙁

Can someone help with:

  1. Deleting PS5 account
  2. Linking Steam to PS5 so I can play my Steam character on PS5

Thank you! 😊

mild palm
warm quail
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overread the cannot rebind because it's really small and my eyesight isn't the best anymore. the support here and ingame is just horrible. they don't understand the problem and/or don't care. only standard AI? answers

mystic briar
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How to bind my discord account to where winds meet

wooden cosmos
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Regarding the bind account, let say you want to log in your account by twitter, will changing twitter pass log you out?

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assuming that you have netease bind and twitter bind

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I know that changing netease pass will you log you out of everything, but is it the same thing for twitter, apple id?

naive herald
# mild palm go into your ps5 game, into settings, and keep hold of square. find the option t...

Thank you very much @mild palm! With some new accounts and some linking, I was able to unlink my PS5 from the "extra" account and link it to my "main" Steam account.

Here's my steps:

  1. Created new Netease account (one I don't plan on using) and linked to PS5
  2. Linked PS5 account to an X/Twitter account
  3. In PS5 game settings menu, held down (Triangle) / "Customer Service" button (seen on the bottom right corner of the screen)
  4. New window opened up, under "Common Issues" section, clicked on "Unbind Account"
  5. Opens up a chat (likely with a bot)
    -- "Player can unbind account in the game now. Please tap "Unbind Account" to unbind account.
    -- Note:
    -- 1. Players need to bind two accounts at least before unbinding.
    -- 2. Players need to bind Netease Passport first and Netease Passport can't be unbound.
    -- >>Click to Unbind Account<<
  6. Click the "Click to Unbind Account" link (blue)
  7. Click the account that you wish to unbind
  8. Type "Confirm"
  9. Click "Next"
  10. Back on my main account, Steam, proceed to log in as usual, go to Menu > Settings > Other > Bind Account.
  11. Bind PS5 account.
  12. Log off Steam and reset PS5 WWM game
  13. PS5 game client now shows my Steam character name

Sorry for the long winded message, but I'm just glad this was able to be resolved with help! And hopfully this can help someone else. heart

mild palm
lost rapids
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I just emailed support to ask how long does the deletion process take before they free up the email address to be used again. I’ll post when I hear back

harsh phoenix
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Guys, my PC died 2 days ago… before it died I binded my account and created a NetEase account, I downloaded WWM on PS5 and I’m at the login screen but there’s no option to bind or link or whatever… there’s just this scroll icon that I click and the tooltip says log out or something, but nothing happens… any clue on what to do next? I want to keep playing, already had over 150 hrs on PC

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Btw I started playing on Steam, now I’m trying cross-progression on PS5 but don’t know how and don’t want to mess that up

wooden cosmos
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Apparently you need to bind with your ps5 account on your pc first

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Don’t create your character on ps5 yet

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Or just wait for mobile version(in 2-3 days) and log in with your net ease, then bind it with ps5

lost rapids
hard hemlock
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If I click Bind Account after today's update, It says "Function unavailable".

mighty birch
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How do I bind on mobile

lost rapids
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You have to go to bind account on pc to bind to mobile from there

whole mirage
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yo guys is there way to unbind my acc and bind to another steam?

rapid oracle
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On mobile it's saying "Login has expired please log in again" but then the linked account is faded grey so I can't click on it

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I logged into my Google account on mobile, then I linked my PC account with Google, and now it's giving me that error

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I haven't created a character on mobile

lost rapids
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I just got an email saying that 14 days is how long it takes for your account to pass the background check prior to deletion. It takes 30 days to delete

naive herald
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Another way to get your existing account on mobile is to sign in with your Netease account.

I just tried this right now. I had not yet bound my Apple/mobile account yet, but when I opened up the game, it asked me to sign in, I chose the red Netease button. After signing in, my main account character name (from Steam) appeared under “Resume”.

warm hinge
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The steam bind account option is glitched bruh

muted vigil
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Can someone clarify how account deletion works if you have 2 characters bound to one account? I have all accounts bound to the same Steam account but two different characters show up depending of platform. if im on steam and netease i get my main, but on ps5 and mobile the second character appears ( even though its linked to the same steam account)

Will deleting my “account” delete both characters?

quick palm
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Hey, I have a few questions

  • When I try to bind my epic games account to netease, there is no netease option, any other way i can bind the epic games account to netease?
  • My epic games account was already bound, when I logged on mobile with epic games account it created a new character, what do I do?
clever oracle
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@proud stirrup

proud stirrup
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@rotund aspen look thru here and see if there’s any solutions

rotund aspen
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how do i bind it from pc to mobile

crisp wave
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How I can log into the lite client? It have only netease account for logging in.
Should I bind my steam to netease and all should work fine?
Thanks!

harsh phoenix
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WARNING to anyone looking to bind accounts… do NOT click Start before binding, even if you haven’t even created a character, or set up brightness settings, if you click start then you’re DONE, you won’t be able to bind NetEase account from another platform, it happened to me coming from Steam (PC) to PS5, I hope this message helps at least a few of my fellow wanderers. P.S. I haven’t found a solution to log out/delete PS5 Account yet.

lost rapids
vital basinBOT
dull meadow
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wow it was auto censored nice

dull meadow
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only way u know this is AFTER u click that start button cuz there is no "Log In" option either wow

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whats the point in binding then?

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why would epic/steam auto bind ur account???

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u know thats fine, why wont u have a "log out" option so u can log in to ur bound account???

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if we cant switch whats the point in binding then??

harsh phoenix
muted vigil
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15 million accounts but i bet half of them are just ppl who accidentally made a second character and are given no solution

nimble cliff
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Wait so annoying ps5 won't log out, so I cant play my steam save... do we really have to email?? Bruuuh

harsh phoenix
nimble cliff
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beg WHYYY uuuughh

muted vigil
regal silo
muted vigil
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they’re not going to admit they don’t have a real solution for the account binding issue

regal silo
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I have bound my fb discord emai and all still not working

muted vigil
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their support is absolutely useless

regal silo
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Yeah

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Even trying to contact customer support not working

muted vigil
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the same steam account can be bound to two separate characters for some reason

muted vigil
lost latch
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How can I bind account on mobile?

muted vigil
nimble cliff
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goodness what a mess. I just ended up uninstalling on ps5 ( who got over 100 gb to just sit ) and putting in Infinity nikki to play while recovering instead LOL

fluid garnet
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So is there anyway to fix this issue with the ps5

muted vigil
vital basinBOT
dusty rain
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iOS Mobile App creates new save data despite linking PSN account first

I started playing on PS5. Then I tried to download the iOS app and logged in with my PSN account, and the game creates new character save data for me... It's the same PSN account though. Something's wrong here

How can it be that my PSN account has one character, and then my Mobile which is logged into the same PSN account has a different character...

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@muted vigil It seems like I have a similar issue as you

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I can't seem to bind my account on PS5 to a Netease account - it doesn't have that option under Settings > Other > Bind Accounts lmao

muted vigil
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absolutely useless support at the moment

dusty rain
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Looking at past chats seems unlikely

muted vigil
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just spam all their media posts 🤣

dusty rain
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I have no idea how my single psn account can fail to load my ps5 character data and create a new one on mobile

muted vigil
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yeah i had my steam account bound to my psn before even downloading wwm on ps5 and it still didnt work

dusty rain
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I'm switching from my current ps5 to a ps5 pro soon. I'm going to be seriously mad if I log in and I lose my char save

muted vigil
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craziest part is that unbinding my psn from the steam and netease acc worked, but when i login mobile it shows my steam and psn still linked 💀

dusty rain
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How did you unbind your account btw? I don't have the option

muted vigil
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i used the netease client on pc

dusty rain
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But I find it hilarious I'm trying to log out of my account on the main menu in ps5, and it never logs me out

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The button just doesn't work lmaoooo

muted vigil
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but it only shows it as unbinded but in reality it never unbinded

dusty rain
muted vigil
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like my psn is bound to my steam on both characters

dusty rain
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Dude I literally freaked out today and spent 2 hours trying to fix this when I downloaded the mobile app, linked my psn account, and it made me start a new char

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I freaked out thinking I delete my old save

muted vigil
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unbinding only unbinded my main and when i checked on mobile my second character is still bound

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it really doesnt make sense

dusty rain
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Well at the very least my concern is a minor annoyance now. I can still play my main acc as a ps5 main

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But when I switch to my new ps5 and if it doesn't load my old save, I'll mald

muted vigil
fluid garnet
muted vigil
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what seems to be happening is that the game is letting people bind different characters to one account wether it be steam or psn, and when logging in on different platforms it will show the accounts as “linked” but different characters will be shown

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I have character A and Character B, both show the same steam account in the options menu

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and unbinding my psn from steam on character B doesnt unbind it on character A even though its the same steam account and psn listed on both characters

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So when i log in on mobile using steam account, it shows me the character B instead of character A

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and this isnt exclusive to linking certain accounts, it seems that different people are reporting this problem when linking either steam to psn, netease to psn, or even psn to netease (maybe even netease to steam, i dont remember if anyone posted abt this)

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their main will not show up on these alternate accounts even though its listed as a binded account

fluid garnet
open lintel
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mine says one game data is already bound to a netease account but that doesn't make sense because i literally just made my netease account

lost rapids
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I made a new netease account today and bound it through steam. I got the message it was successful and exited and logged back in to see that it wasn’t bound. When I tried to bind it, it says it can’t be bound again

graceful cypress
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I started on mobile but I want to connect to my PS5. When trying to bind my account on a PSN account, I am getting the net:ERR_CONNECTION_REFUSED error. I have also bound my account with my gmail and netease account successfully. How do I connect my mobile account to PS5?

fiery pagoda
graceful cypress
fiery pagoda
graceful cypress
native trench
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Im so stumped. I tried to bind my steam account to mobile to start playing on steam but it says an account is already linked to my steam account. There is no user center on steam to check whats going on unless I make a character. I made a character to get into the bind and now I cant unbind. I made a dummy netease account to unbind my steam account and then proceeded to delete that dummy netease account to clear all game data. I still can't link my mobile and my steam now says "start" instead of resume so I assumed unbinding was successful. What the hell what now? 😭

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If I make a new character and bind in steam after first boss using the netease account I have on mobile does it let me use my character on my phone?

hardy shale
muted vigil
lost rapids
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I'm downloading the launcher version now because I made yet another netease account so I could bind it to my steam but once I unbound my steam to re-roll it was stuck. I'm so tired yall

lost rapids
native trench
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I just use the launcher now to log in to netease to connect my mobile account. And I gave up on linking steam because it just doesnt work. It keeps saying there's game data even tho I already unbound it so whatever steam.

lost rapids
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I can’t however link my discord. I don’t have the ties that bind anymore…unless it’s because I don’t have a netease account. I’m working through steam

fiery pagoda
native trench
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Thank you tho 🩷

lost rapids
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Yeah I can't bind my account anymore (in game rewards and stuff) it isn't there For some reason logging out and back in fixed it

edgy shard
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I'm trying to bind my mobile account to the netease account, cause for the pc version it only gives me the option to login using that, but there just isn't an option to bind to the netease thing

winter gull
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Hey, How can i continue playing with my steam account on mobile? If i try to log in via steam, the site doesnt load/i get an error code

fiery pagoda
native trench
edgy shard
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I can bind to steam, epic games, ps5 Google and all that

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but not the netease account

native trench
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Thats odd it should be there cuz its netease so idk

chilly zodiac
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forgive my ignorance but how do i submit a ticket

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im a fool and have two seperate accounts and wanna have my mobile account on pc

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thanks!

shell zealot
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i just mail wherewindsmeet@global.netease.com.
Is there a faster way for them to help me?

"I created an account on PS5. Now I want to play on PC and have successfully linked my account to netease. However, a problem has arisen: I can't make payments on PC and have to go back to PS5 to buy. I know PSN's policy is that they want me to pay on their platform. But when I created a PC account first and linked it to my PSN account, it worked perfectly for payments and gameplay on both platforms. The two accounts are identical, only linked in the different order.

After that, I unbind my NetEase account with PSN. Ironically, I can no longer play on my PS5. When I try to rebind, it says the link failed. Now I'm stuck between being unable to pay on my PC with my NetEase account and being unable to get back to playing on my PS5 and paying there. Please, I need help right now, otherwise I won't be able to play this game anymore."

lusty crypt
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Hi , im trying to linked my mobile wwm account into steam but it cannot be done because they say the account already linked with another game , yes i played harry potter from netease before can i get help?

native trench
lusty crypt
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Not yet

fringe knot
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I've downloaded the game using Steam and leveled up my character quite a bit (lvl 70), but when I go to bind my account, it says 'Function unavailable. Contact Customer Service'. Tried contacting customer service and explained my issue again and again but to no avail. As a result I haven't been able to create a netease account/passport either. My language is set to English as well. Please help

fiery pagoda
terse bobcat
fringe knot
terse sable
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whats this work around. how do i make a ticket

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accidentaly made two accounts... i want my ps5 linked to pc.... but it keeps saying failed

vapid otter
proper rapids
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hi everyone, i have a issue, so i played WWM for the first time on my ipad and i already bind my gmail and netease account on this characted i made on ipad. After that, i want to bind these account to my ps5? How can i bind it? Because i cant sign out from account that i already played on my ps5

fiery pagoda
paper gull
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hello, i need to bind my account from steam to netease ..but the button is GONE ?just exchange code ..?lol what kind of update is this ???

woeful forum
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there is also no user center on the login screen (which im assuming is where bind account is supposed to be placed). but new update, new bugs. i assume a hotfix will be implemented within the next few days

tacit spruce
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Why im still cant see my bind button in the setting??

fiery pagoda
fiery pagoda
tacit spruce
fiery pagoda
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This is confirmed a bug and we've forwarded it to staff

woeful forum
warped siren
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hi guys, I created 2 characters on the same steam account. I can't link the new character on NetEase Games and the old one disappeared. Now I can close the game by only pressing Alt F4 and the "User Centre "option no longer appears under Account Info. Has anyone else had the same problem?

fiery pagoda
warped siren
fiery pagoda
warped siren
fiery pagoda
fiery pagoda
# warped siren in the official website the first character doesn't appear anymore and when i tr...

There are two ways you can report it to them:

The first is in-game using the feedback option(scroll and brush icon) below the settings option(gear icon) and filling out the form that opens up.

The second is directly to Game Support Team's email using the guide below:

Send an email to: wherewindsmeet@global.netease.com

When emailing, please include:

Character UID — bottom-left corner of your game screen
Platform — Steam/Epic/PC/Mobile/PS5, etc.
Detailed Description — Describe the issue and whether restarting helps
Screenshots / Videos — Anything that helps identify the problem quickly

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Make sure to take plenty of screenshots

warped siren
turbid nest
tacit spruce
fiery pagoda
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Its a confirmed bug that the Bind button on Steam was accidentally removed in the last update @tacit spruce @turbid nest

tacit spruce
turbid nest
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Some of my emotes and poses are missing too not to mention they messed up some of my saved scenarios

fiery pagoda
turbid nest
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@fiery pagoda I am missing some emotes and poses now including things in my scenario menu after the update. Where can I post it?

fiery pagoda
indigo kiln
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Hello, today I wanted to switch my play to my PC on Steam, but when I tried to link my accounts, the option to do so wasn’t there. In the settings, there is no option to link accounts, and the main page doesn’t even have an “Other” tab. In-game, the only option available is to enter a code for rewards.

I then remembered that on the Events page there is a binding reward, and it says I have already bound my game to a PC, but I don’t remember doing this. When I load up WWM on my PC, my character isn’t there—there’s only an option to start a new game.

I also remember seeing several warnings not to start the game in this situation because it would create another character and mess everything up. What am I doing wrong?

outer perch
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I don't have "Bind acount" settings. "You need to get past the first boss, and finish your character/name creation" is completed and played for 18h. What should i do?

fiery pagoda
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Its currently Bugged on Steam for account linking. Last update accidentally removed the option. But you can still link it on Mobile and Official launcher from the main menu. You can see where to find the option in #1450608984225742878 @outer perch @indigo kiln

turbid nest
# fiery pagoda Also a known issue with the latest update

@fiery pagoda Appreciate you getting back to us, will I get all of my emotes and scenario poses back, I am skeptical to play right now if stuff is going to disappear. I even reached out to support but gave me a very basic response about reinstalling game and stuff

paper gull
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i found so many bugs while fight lucky sevent even on trial on real story fight ..one kind of his normal can't be deflected ..and also sometimes lucky sevent do a strange move, like he is hitting but there is no damage to me ..like he is on stuck position, and somehow like do a fake slam on his feet ????

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and so many quest from beginer missed, like old ciu wine was gone, and qin caiwei at stonewash strand can't be chat ?

fiery pagoda
cloud forum
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I dont have the "bind account" as an option, im far past beating the first boss so I have no clue why I cant find it

zenith sierra
lost rapids
zenith sierra
terse bobcat
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just go to launcher and log in with net ease

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then there is account centre on the loading screen, link your account there

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(on the official launcher one)

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mb if i mis interpreted anything, these instruction are for from already existing steam to play on launcher

nimble cliff
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Yo did they fix to log out ps5 account so my ACTUAL steam account can connect???

nimble cliff
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Me trying to do the unbind/bind cupid shuffle to get my steam account working on my ps5 and I just keep getting hit with roadblocks. This is dumb. why is this so difficult

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it wont let me unlink the ps5 account (which isn't bount to anything) so i can bind to my actual steam/ps5 account. just says failed llink/not able to link. I'm losing my mind.

turbid nest
turbid nest
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I want to make sure that I can bind my game online first (got a PS5 yesterday) and want to play on both steam, ps5 and my phone, and when I go to https://account.wherewindsmeetgame.com/page/account-management/wherewindsmeet/account-center I signed in with net ease account but doesn't show my character under game characters. Do I need to log out and sign in with Steam instead online or can I link or what is the process, I have been wanting to do it through the game but we know how that is right now.

fiery pagoda
turbid nest
fiery pagoda
# turbid nest Like online, not in game right?

Yes, through the main website for the game here:
https://www.wherewindsmeetgame.com/

Where Winds Meet is an epic open-world action-adventure RPG rooted in the rich legacy of Wuxia. Set during the turbulent era of tenth-century China, you take on the role of a young sword master, uncovering forgotten truths and the mysteries of your own identity. As the wind stirs across mountains and rivers, so too will your legend rise.

turbid nest
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Sign in with steam or net ease?

fiery pagoda
# turbid nest Sign in with steam or net ease?

With your Netease account, then you'll want to link all your other accounts underneath that Netease account. As long as you only have the one character and haven't made any characters on the other platforms you shouldn't have any problems linking your accounts

turbid nest
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How does mobile work

turbid nest
fiery pagoda
turbid nest
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How does it work with mobile?

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Also what happens if I log in online with my steam instead of net ease. Sorry for all the questions just don't want to lose stuff

fiery pagoda
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Just make sure everything is linked, and on new platforms don't click start, wait till you have logged in and you see it change to Resume with your character name under it.

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If its playstation, just make sure you properly linked it on the Account Center, or on the main menus of mobile/official launcher before playing on playstation to avoid accidentally making a new character. That process is longer to fix then making sure its all linked properly beforehand

cedar garnet
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Can anyone tell me how to remove an Account from PS5? Wife started a new account on my PS5 and I want to use the same from PC on PS5.

turbid nest
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And I appreciate it, honestly kind of asking more questions now for future people so they can know as well 🙂

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I'll give it a try tonight tho

fiery pagoda
fiery pagoda
turbid nest
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Welp, I took your advice and signed in with my Net Ease account and then hit the link button and got the error on the left 🙁

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Wait it's not letting me post it

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Can I send it to you NoSleep?

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The message says Link Failed: The game data has been linked to an account and cannot be linked again. Please go back to Account Center and try again.

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And above the linked account button it shows Game Characters I click on that and it says: No Character Found

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However it looks like it may have worked when I logged in with Steam instead on the website as it says STeam Current

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I went to Game Characters my character shows up there with logging online with steam instead.

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That showed NetEase Games Recommended and I linked that there now, hopefully that will work instead?

turbid nest
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It shows them both linked when I log in with Steam and it shows my character there under the game characters so I think it worked?

analog obsidian
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Netease bind account on launcher not showing on my friends pc. Anyone experienced this issue?

warm gust
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I Have same issue as @turbid nest but when i get to the point where you log in to at website with steam. That shows netease link recommended . it shows same erro and cant link

fiery pagoda
fiery pagoda
turbid nest
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I got the games to link but I still have problem with game crashing randomly on PC

fiery pagoda
clear hazel
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My account was supposed to be deleted yesterday,
after a period of 30 days. I even provided my purchase invoice history… I don’t understand.

turbid nest
warm gust
analog obsidian
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@narrow plinth

fiery pagoda
warm gust
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To delete acount . create netease acount and link them....

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i assume you need clean netease acount without a character. why is it so complicated

turbid nest
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Also the emotes did come back last week for us, we had to recreate the scenarios but that's good at least

fiery pagoda
turbid nest
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What do you play on?

fiery pagoda
turbid nest
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I do love this game tho just wish the gachas weren't so expensive

narrow plinth
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pls gives us option/user center in steam logins

clever aspen
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is there a guiide on how to do certain things while in the game? it's my first download on steam, when I launched the game it immediately went full screen doing intro and tutorial, which was great, except I was in another game at the time lol, anyway I managed to get out of it eventually, but I missed out on tutorial and setting up my Avatar, hope it goes back to that next time I run it.

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oops, did I post in wrong place? I think I did, sorry. 😨

fiery pagoda
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Worse case you can follow the guide in #1450608984225742878 and completely delete the account and start over

muted otter
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Did they drop a fix for the binding accounts issues? Im trying to link my PS5 to my main steam acc and it keeps telling me that its already linked and cant be linked again. I did see some people talk about the bind option not existing but im still seeing it on ps5.
PS5 V1.0.87.53588 (downloaded 1/25/26)
Steam V1.0.85.53590 (downloaded a 64Gb update 1/25/26)

fiery pagoda
cyan oriole
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Binding and unbinding due to accidentally created new character on ps5. This works for me, may help you too if you have similar situation as mine, here are the steps:

Account 1 - Main character: I started playing on mobile bind with Gmail.

Account 2 - New character created accidentally on ps5 portal - bind/Link with NetEase account. (Maybe deleted later)

Unbind PSN from Account 2, then bind PSN with Account 1.

I didn’t create multiple NetEase accounts. Just created one to bind Account 2 and release the PSN binding from it so that I can link it to Account 1.

Reload the game on PS, and it works loading my main character.

placid mica
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Is the Steam Account linking Still bugged like the First Post says?

Made a NetEase Mobile account first and couldn't find a way to use that account on Steam.
Now I've accidentally made a new Steam Character.

fiery pagoda
lost rapids
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I realized today that if your email is used in the ties that bind, and you want to delete your netease account, you need to unbind your email. I have been trying to unbind my account for a few months because I didn’t know this (yes I'm slow) It's not very intuitive

tawdry ridge
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Hi! I have a question about link the accounts with GeForce, I've been playing the game on GeForce and created my profile on there. But now when Im opening the game on steam my character is not there. Do i also just have to link like the guide up here or?

fiery pagoda
verbal flare
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i had bonded my discord account, then i bounded my email address. but now in discord, it says that no account is bounded and when i see in-game, it shows my account is bounded with my email address. any idea what to do about that?

fiery pagoda
random dagger
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i'm going crazy rn , somebody said that i need to delete my character so i can bind my ps5 game with my steam game , so i did wait 7 days , today i come home from work finally happy that i will bind account finaly and game on ps5 made another accout by itelf , so 7 days for nothing , can anyone help me please , i have progres on steam 85 lv , i just want to play game on ps5

fiery pagoda
# random dagger i'm going crazy rn , somebody said that i need to delete my character so i can b...

You'll need to delete the new character again, then link your playstation on the official website, mobile app, or official netease launcher. There's a guide here:
#1450608984225742878

Easiest way is to use the account center on the official website after its deleted.
https://www.wherewindsmeetgame.com/

Where Winds Meet is an epic open-world action-adventure RPG rooted in the rich legacy of Wuxia. Set during the turbulent era of tenth-century China, you take on the role of a young sword master, uncovering forgotten truths and the mysteries of your own identity. As the wind stirs across mountains and rivers, so too will your legend rise.

random dagger
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so i need to wait now again for 7 days ?

fiery pagoda
random dagger
rain siren
rain siren
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And I binded my account before I made a new PSA account. I thought I needed to, to rebind

idle saffron
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Thank you, very helpful

random dagger
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i'm done with this game , waited 7 days to finally bind account and game didn't let me choose my main psn account and bind wrong one automatically

fallow flicker
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My game says that my account is already bound. But when I go to daily checkin here on discord, it states that I am not bound. How do I fix?

gaunt ferry
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Hi there! I am a Steam and mobile player. I'm not being able to bing my account with Discord. That option simply don't show up in events menu. Can someone advise me?

fiery pagoda
fiery pagoda
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Message @stark yew to create a ticket we'll try to help you there if we can, or we will direct you to the Game Support Team if its beyond what we can help with

ruby oracle
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hi i was trying to bind my account to discord but it shows i already linked to my email and i cant get the code for binding, anyway i can fix it?

half garnet
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<@&1231156582469865522> I already binded my discord account to my mobile game account on my computer. But when I log in on discord on my phone its not working. And now its unbinded on my laptop too. Is there a way to get a new code?

fiery pagoda
tight rover
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hi im trying to bind my steam account to netease so i can use the pc launcher instead of the steam launcher and im getting this error "Link failed. The personal information registered with the linked account does not match the data in this account." how should I resolve this issue?

golden thunder
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Can someone help me? I started playing on Steam but i switched launcher and now i cant log in my old account. Im stuck with a new char.

amber lynx
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Restarting this, I have been on mobile for awhile and used the PC client while in the US. Im traveling in asia and bought another desktop. Trying to use steam for the client it does not allow me to login. And it says account is already bound when trying to bind, and when trying to unbind, it says I need to first bind.

fiery pagoda
amber lynx
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nope, i opened the game, went to settings immediately to bind which had me copy and paste a link, tried logging in using my netease/google account which is my original and used account and it gave the already bound notice.

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first time ever opening it on steam i will add

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I will add, on opening the steam game WWM app, it did not let me goto settings without entering the gameplay. only after the cutscenes was I able to goto settings>other to do all this. I did back out to the title screen to verify there was not two accounts either.

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side note to this, i am installing, very slowly, the PC standalone game, without steam, but I would like to link steam at some point and there is no ingame support for the issue

Edit: Will check this when I wake. About to sleep.

8 AM for me is <t:1776988800:t> for you.

fiery pagoda
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that was tried too with the same result. i did log out, clear cache, log back in with same result. also did the same with logging in by google alone instead of net-ease.

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Steps so far completed:

Making this for others to follow later

  • Verify account is not bound first in steam, after getting the notice during Un-Bind that it is not bound.
  • Verify account is not bound on the OFFICIAL WWM website.
  • Verify account login details are correct and not signing in with an entirely new account.
  • Logged out on website, cleared cache, logged back in with Google Account.
  • Logged out on website, cleared cache, logged back in with Net-Ease account.
  • Logged out in game, which resulted in game force exit.
    • Reopening the game it logins back in without any login prompts via steam ONLY.
    • Trying to logout via command in title menu aka send logout request does not work. Text appears attempting to send request with no visual result.

Note by me: I have played about 4 hours mobile, and 7 hours PC client (not steam client) I am trying to bind steam and net-ease. Only un-bind option that shows is to unbind google. I am also unable to bind the steam account without making a new net-ease account, which I cannot do without first wiping my main account/character by deleting it, then unbinding.

Additional Note: Game works totally fine on PC Client via net-ease login. Issue persists with steam

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Off to bed @ NoSleep. Will check when I wake, much appreciated

gritty lance
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is anybody here

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I need some help

fiery pagoda
fiery pagoda
amber lynx
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no response from ingame support either via form or email ticket

fiery pagoda
# amber lynx yea, unable to do it at all

Okay, Message @stark yew we'll use a ticket to work through this as best as we can. I know Game Support is still catching up on tickets after their national holiday on may 1st-5th.

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It will let you share screenshots as well so I can see what exactly you are doing and what the game is saying

amber lynx
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that will have to wait a few weeks now, i uninstalled it and installed the native version. Metered connection here, i'll have the needed GB to download again end of the month.

I will message it though with a reply to my previous steps completed though. I have been on Hell Let Loose as a time killer in the mean time. ❤️