DawnLib [V80]

[oak linden]

Dunno tbh

[dense iron]

was the image hosted on imgur?

if so, not possible to view in the uk fyi xD just thought id let you know.

[sly marsh]

☠️

Yeah idk of any alternative sources unfortunately

[dense iron]

yeah its fine, just.. i d k why exactly, probably related to the age restriction stuff, but imgur has some alert when someone from the uk goes to their site saying its not possible to view bla bla bla, and just means anyone from the uk cant actually see the picture. xD

[obsidian marsh]

me having to enable a VPN so i can view the super illegal lunxaras menu theme for lethal company (i'm going to jail forever)

[dense iron]

i k r

[carmine elk]

Well there goes my mods' readme. Thanks UK

[dense iron]

yw ❤️

[charred field]

open up a trello and post to it

thats what I do for my images

it's the only use the biodiversity trello has anymore LMAOOO

[cloud flower]

So many mods don’t have viewable images anymore

[blazing nacelle]

if you have to consider json you should do as the BepInEx dev said and go to yaml instead...
same flexibility of json, but a lot more user friendly ( it's based on indentation )

also YAML parsers can parse jsons

[frozen widget]

@oak linden ya said ye wanted to make DL the main lib everyone uses

But what about the stuff ya don't register for now then

Cuz i think there was moons and scraps you do but not interiors

[carmine elk]

I hate things that base on indentation. One of my gripes with Python

[blazing nacelle]

you can't deny it's a lot easier to understand for non programmers than json tho 🙃

[carmine elk]

yeah 😔

[blazing nacelle]

also as i said above, noone stops you from rewriting your yaml as a json

or even do some weird mix 😈

[agile sky]

tbh yaml is still non-obvious

though it's probably not as bad if you aren't writing it all from scratch

[blazing nacelle]

as far as i know it's the most user friendly we have rn
especially considering all the freedom you have with comments

[meager inlet]

the most user friendly solution is not one where the user is directly touching the file

with what lc mods do with config stuff it just really needs some sort of actual ui

[agile sky]

also, this is pretty fun https://ruudvanasseldonk.com/2023/01/11/the-yaml-document-from-hell

[spiral axle]

https://noyaml.com/

[agile sky]

I do think that TOML is probably the best in like 95% of the cases, and yes I pulled that number out of my ass

[spiral axle]

honestly, yeah

if you need to change things frequently toml has the best readability-parseability ratio

[blazing nacelle]

that is out of the context, we're talking of config files.
the best solution is a DB and a frontend. and there is no discussion on that.

if you have to expose a config file what would you consider the easiest to understand format ( from a end-user perspective , definitely not from a programmer perspective )

[spiral axle]

if you have to expose a config file what would you consider the easiest to understand format

depends on how many things there are to change

cause for majority of mods the bepinex .cfg (which is just TOML) is great

[meager inlet]

huh? mine was specifically in context

[spiral axle]

but - for larger content mods - json will always be the best when it comes to parsing

and people don't really want to make custom UIs for that

cause it's hard

[meager inlet]

afaik a lot of these config solutions in general are built to either empower pretty specific "arbitrary" values (eg. settings) or as a way to serialize data thats read and written via code

[agile sky]

# 🚨 Anyone wondering why their first seven Kubernetes clusters deploy just fine, and the eighth fails? 🚨
- 07
- 08
# Results in
[ 7, "08" ]

lol

[meager inlet]

for LC where we have massive rarity tables in bulk, no solution is gonna be good enough when its a user having to touch that raw

[spiral axle]

i have to setup yaml files regularly for homeassistant configs

the person responsible for that insanity needs to be punished

[blazing nacelle]

i did know about most of that. but some of this 🤣

[meager inlet]

someone has to take a page from the psycho bethesda modding devs and build a program directly to handle configs

load up the assetbundles and everything do it

[agile sky]

BepInEx Configuration Manager would be probably the closest thing we have as a universal solution at least in game as a convenient way to edit configs. And then ofc mod managers.

[spiral axle]

lethalquantities having the guts to make a custom UI:

[meager inlet]

but refusing to work with any other mods:

[spiral axle]

that was a great read, thank you for that 😆

naah

[sly marsh]

Items are able to clip into the floor it looks like, Matty's Fixes fixes this from happening but I assume DawnLib overrides

[obtuse pecan]

dayum

if this is real, thats bad news for the sss

[sly marsh]

They don't sink in the SSS, it's just the floor fix that is being overridden

[obtuse pecan]

hmmmmmmm i suppose you have out of bounds config enabled to say that? and/or General improvements?

[oak linden]

i doubt i override that

when is this happening

on loading save? because matty fixes still runs

like i need more information

like some items are clearly not sinking in the ground, and there's no reason for items to randomly sink in the ground, and where is this, second story?

[obsidian marsh]

it was on the first tory

first story*

[blazing nacelle]

there is not separate fix for the floor issue

on save i shift stuff by their vertical offset plus a smidge for safety

[narrow zenith]

@blazing nacelle dont post 3 images without context

[calm maple]

It's the fact that they are links to existing attachments

[narrow zenith]

ah right

[blazing nacelle]

context was the message above. but sry 😅

[split gale]

???

[blazing nacelle]

got automodded and timed out

[calm maple]

Sorry but that's how we catch the Mr Beast and Elon Musk image scammers

[narrow zenith]

its fine, just a regex that we have that usually prevents a lot of those scams

[blazing nacelle]

yeah. definitely keep that. it's better to be strict on thoose things

[calm maple]

And we catch a lot of them btw

[narrow zenith]

yeah god we do, i stole it instantly to apply the same rule to all my servers

[carmine elk]

The__Musk

[blazing nacelle]

        var newPos = position;
        newPos += Vector3.down * grabbable.itemProperties.verticalOffset;
        newPos += Vector3.up   * MattyFixes.PluginConfig.OutOfBounds.VerticalOffset.Value;

amd the config is at 0.01f by default

[sly marsh]

Oh is it ShipWindows doing a funny again maybe?

lol

[blazing nacelle]

DawnLib definitely skips my code as it replaces thw save system

[oak linden]

i switched to a harmony patch

so i might still be overriding but no idea tbh

[blazing nacelle]

mine is a transpiler 😅

i highly doubt you're not skipping my patch 😅

[oak linden]

oh lol

[blazing nacelle]

i could patch DawnLib myself if it ever becomes needed, but i think you'll want to embedded the fix inside DawnLib natively

[oak linden]

yea i just dont know what im missing?

is it just the last line you have there?

[oak linden]

There are two issues I've noticed for unlockables, their position is indeed bugged for clients and clients have a different unlockable ID than hosts for some reason (which causes more issues)

[sly marsh]

Fun, I’m glad my bug report helped reveal a larger problem

That do be important to fix

At least items placed inside or on the furniture still sync up okay

[oak linden]

yeah that part wouldnt change

[obtuse pecan]

lmao different ID????

[oak linden]

yeah im not 100% sure whats causing it but i noticed some redundant code related to the ID so getting rid of that

afaik its only for when the clients try to sync the position of the unlockable

[obtuse pecan]

redundant code in DawnLib?

[oak linden]

which is why no one noticed it

yeah i coded the unlockables a while ago so i forgot that the shop unlockable ID = number in the spawned dict

and i stored that number separately

[obtuse pecan]

damn, at least its just that

[oak linden]

confusing, seems like this isn't running

no wait

okay i got it

[obtuse pecan]

ah

[oak linden]

it's just clients running stuff differently than host

order of operations is wacky

yeah okay its what i thought lol

now the question is, how do i do this without it being super messy lmao

[blazing nacelle]

it's documented here for the most part if you're interested
https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1191246381634043995

i should run it again now in v73 tho i doubt anything has changed

[oak linden]

nah not that, the difference is that the client is spawning the object AFTER i set the values into the prefab

or well, before i meant

so basically host has the right unlockableID's onto the autoparenttoship and placeableshipobject

[blazing nacelle]

well clients will spawn all network objects on connection

[oak linden]

yep

so i cant really patch anything to edit some prefabs before that happens i think

[blazing nacelle]

so if you have something you want to set before you'll have to prefix NetworkBehavior.OnNetworkSpawn

i do that for GrabbableObjects i belive in MattyFixes

[oak linden]

icic

[blazing nacelle]

here

[sly marsh]

Matty coming in to save the day

Btw Xu since he’s here did you also figure out the item clipping stuff he was trying to help you with yesterday?

[oak linden]

no

[oak linden]

cuz my question still stands

and also patching the onnetworkspawn wont help me here anyway

[sly marsh]

Your presence is still required

[oak linden]

ill ping matty if i need him, im still figuring stuff out myself

[sly marsh]

Fair

[oak linden]

yeah fixed it

[oak linden]

v0.3.12

• Added ContentOrder attribute to apply to content handlers if you'd like them to run in specific order.
• Fixed client/host desync in unlockable skins and unlockable id causing position desyncs.
• Touched up UI a little bit.

Did it in a clean-ish way atleast

[sly marsh]

[oak linden]

I blame the moresuits compat

[sly marsh]

Wait huh? That caused the funny?

lol

[oak linden]

It delayed unlockable registration and caused clients to be late on something that needed to be done like a tick earlier, but I just rewrote that code in a bit of a different way

[sly marsh]

Ah lol, yeah I had a feeling it was something finnicky with the id or when clients were registering it, my initial fix I tried to do was changing the fix Science Bird Tweaks does for furnitures to be client sided instead of networked

Which tbh I can probably disable the parenting fix SBT does for Furniture since DawnLib handles that now right?

[oak linden]

Like items parenting to furniture?

[sly marsh]

This thing

Idk if you handle that or not

[oak linden]

Uh I don't think so

[obtuse pecan]

btw, idk if this also affects modded furnitures, but there is no need to to that for the SSS since it's parented automatically thanks to science bird, the cool bird, who explained it to me

[sly marsh]

Neat

[oak linden]

Oh can you explain the problem rq to someone who has no idea

[obtuse pecan]

well, if the furniture is not parented to the ship, it will still be fine but the hitbox of that said furnitures (interact triggers for examples, colliders, etc) will move when the ship is landing on a moon/ leaving the moon, so you will see it "jittering" a bit when this happens
For example the teleporter buttons will be harder to press when the ship is moving
and another example is, without the code i made, the interact area from the SSS to put items in will be moving as well

items that are placed inside shelves of cupboards will also move and jitter since they are parented to the furniture and the furtniture is not parented to the ship

so yeah, you need to make it parent to the ship when it's spawned, and same things for items in the shelves

thats why this fix is there in Science bird tweaks, because it's fixing vanilla furnitures (but idk if its touching modded ones, but this shouldnt be needed for the sss, idk for the others, like in melanie mod?)

[oak linden]

Do you know if the parenting all applies to the same gameobject?

Cuz I can do this very simply embedded after the save system spawns all unlockables

[obtuse pecan]

i dont know more, you should ask science bird

[vernal umbra]

newest dawnlib

not sure if its this or furniture lock

FL didnt do any of its positioning or unlocking when starting a new save

[cobalt saddle]

if you're using updated dawnlib after previously using an older version, try hosting a lobby with the save systems disabled in config, then relaunching with them enabled again (seems to clear any invalid save data stuff when I had a similar issue come up)

[vernal umbra]

does this apply when the lobby in question is a new save

[cobalt saddle]

ye, part of the issue with dawnlib was persistent stuff saved across sessions if I understand correctly, I had this same issue upon hosting a new save too

[vernal umbra]

lobby loaded correctly with dawn save system off, then broke again when i reenabled them

though im also seeing lethalthings throwing startofround errors now so maybe it is conflictging?

[cobalt saddle]

new save each time? rough, it fixed it for me but there might be some other stuff at play I guess

[cobalt saddle]

To fix it, I parent all unlockables to the Environment/HangarShip game object in the ship scene (technically I group them in my own furniture game object at that path for organization). This is where non-unlockable furniture goes (e.g. cupboard, terminal), but when unlockable furniture is spawned in, I think it just spawns with no parent or some higher hierarchy point.

If you're totally taking over all the unlockable stuff, you might be able to just change the path at which the unlockable prefab is instantiated.

Also while I'm here, there's still a little issue using the most recent patches of DawnLib and FurnitureLock: if you start a new save with some furniture spawned unlocked with FurnitureLock, then quit and reload that save, the unlocked furniture will be locked again (not sure if this would happen if you did multiple days, but I imagine it would probably come up some other places)

[sly marsh]

You're gonna need to hold off on using Lethal Things til eba removes the config option for the dart board

[vernal umbra]

could i go back to the fork then

this wasnt happening on the fork but i updated lethal things and dawnlib at the same time

so

[sly marsh]

the fork has an issue that breaks furniture for clients that late join

I would just wait

[oak linden]

hmm okie ill look into that

multiple days and same day would be the same i imagine

[oak linden]

can i get da profile

i think i know whats happening but just wanna be sure

gotta run your profile with some debug logs to check what's causing that error

[vernal umbra]

019a34a6-2dee-8554-1ff2-200ff8b2d912 be warned its a mess

[oak linden]

i cant reproduce this with your pack, you'll have to reproduce again but turn on bepinex debug logging and turn on all the extra logging in dawnlib

i reproduced an error in the saving system but the extra logging wasnt enabled cuz gale forgor to give me the right cofnigs nice

[vernal umbra]

Great

Why do gale and r2 have such a hard time reading each other's profile codes anyway

I'll do this tomorrow

[oak linden]

oky so two things, melanie's oven erroring and melanie's walls etc arent saving

[sly marsh]

Melanie also has to fix the pocket rooms, so just a few things to inform her about prob

[oak linden]

what i mentioned are me issues afaik

[sly marsh]

Though she mentioned her pc was having trouble so idk when she'll get around to it

Ah

[sly marsh]

@oak linden Reloading Lobbies appears to be broken

[oak linden]

ik, but u dont have any logging so that isnt helpful for me rn but im looking into it

[sly marsh]

This is a different error that Kiszony got which is quite interesting

[oak linden]

again, no logs, isnt helpful

[sly marsh]

I assume it's the logging for Save manager and unlockables that needs toggled on

I'll also turn it on for items cus why not, it's related

[oak linden]

probably yeah

[quick anvil]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/807809192537882647/1023257725821534324/29B137A0-B2CA-4BD3-A92E-542BCC35BEED.gif

[sly marsh]

We shall see if this helps

This is an odd warning

[oak linden]

that warning idk, not related

for the rest, the more im looking into it the more im convinced mel screwed up a bit when registering her items through LL

[sly marsh]

Why is it only now an issue?

Oh wait maybe your id fix

🤔

[quick anvil]

now that's interesting

019a3518-25f5-6114-f514-46c867d9e808

[sly marsh]

I'll test with Mel's furniture off

[oak linden]

idk im checking now, it shouldnt be an issue though, all it means is that her stuff doesn't work with dawnlib's internal data

[quick anvil]

pure dawnlib, nothing more, nothing less

(the monitor on the screenshot is on)

[oak linden]

yeah i think i got that fixed, lobby reload did have a small issue from last update

[quick anvil]

I see
I'm trying to address as much as possible 🥺

[oak linden]

thats fine

[quick anvil]

even made a test on 6-modded modpack with just dawnlib & it's configs
first lobby enter - replaced furnitures in random places
lobby reload - furnitures came back to it's default places & monitor broke

so yeah

[sly marsh]

Yeah issue repros with Mel's furniture off

[oak linden]

the lobby reload issue yeah, but the saving stuff is weird, half of mel's furniture doesnt exist when leaving the lobby

[quick anvil]

mel's furnitures are just substitutes, the vanilla furnitures acts exactly the same as mel's

[oak linden]

wut, no im saying im aware of the lobby reload issue and fixed that, but mel's furniture isn't getting saved to the save file because her furniture is getting removed from the unlockables list

i see the issue

[sly marsh]

🤔 Is this in your code or Mel's?

[oak linden]

my code

[sly marsh]

Ahhh okay okay

I wonder why it only affects Mel's furniture

lol

[oak linden]

it didnt, it was just unlucky enough that it happened to be mel's furniture to only be affected

[sly marsh]

Ahhhh

[quick anvil]

oh

[sly marsh]

We love funny rng problems

At least you isolated it

I do wonder why Kiszony was getting lag everytime he reloaded his lobby though

☠️

I couldn't repro that

[quick anvil]

just kiszony things

[oak linden]

idk kiszony things yeah

v0.3.13

• Fixed a lobby reload softlock issue.
• Fixed issue where only half of the unlockables would save.
• Removed facility's #natural tag.

i think some of the item saving issues still exist due to incompat with better saves but i havent checked that stuff out yet

and i'd rather make dawnlib's own impl of bettersaves later like i planned to

[oak linden]

im hoping this is fixed now, i cant test it since i gtg but i was basically skipping every odd numbered index in the unlockables list when saving

[oak linden]

v0.3.14

• Made unlockables parent to the ship to remove a stuttering issue when landing or leaving.
• Fixed an issue with replacements where the rotation sometimes isn't accurate depending on parent.

[quick anvil]

another update that the first one didn't even came out grrrrrr

https://tenor.com/view/blanket-attack-cat-biting-blanket-cat-bite-blanket-gif-12318464159245992315

(/j)

[oak linden]

lol

this would fix issues in coderebirth actually now that i think about it with like redwood's skin

[sly marsh]

Oh will his cape be fixed now?

lmao

[oak linden]

Should be

[sly marsh]

Neat

[spiral axle]

oh, was that the issue where some unlockables don't have AutoParentToShip?

[sly marsh]

Yeah SBT has had a fix for it for ages now and now DawnLib has it integrated

[oak linden]

nah that doesn't parent anything, that just sets it to a specific position on start

[spiral axle]

oh, alright 😅

[oak linden]

all unlockables have that component (atleast in vanilla)

including suits iirc which is kinda annoying lol

[spiral axle]

oh, definitely

it's sooo annoying to deal with them 😔

[oak linden]

the more annoying thing is the intentionally developed difference of "scene placed" and "spawned" unlockables

the things you start with when you make a lobby are scene placed, they have their own storing system where instead of actually getting deleted they are sent like thousands of meters away

their unlockableitem node also has no prefab for them despite being something that fulfills that requirement

there's inconsistency that is intentionally coded in, but :Shrug

[spiral axle]

🙉

two systems developed at different times

hacked together to work somehow

at least it looks like it

[oak linden]

yeah, the worst part is that some unlockables DONT have a buy node associated in their UnlockableItem despite being purchase-able

so it exists, its just not assigned

and i dont think this is entirely true in vanilla, but it is in lethallib

[spiral axle]

GOD the amount of fucking SHIT i had to do to make it work for terminalformatter

[oak linden]

lol yeah

it took me a while to realise that everything zeekerss does is simply based on their position in the unlockables list

[sly marsh]

Lol Atlas dies on Oxyde

[oak linden]

their autoparenttoship, their buy node id, their placeableshipobject

[spiral axle]

yeah, everything based on indexes 🤢

oh god i just remembered this

[oak linden]

i need the debug logs above this

[oak linden]

lol, that's not actually the proper way to check that

there's a bool and an int you're supposed to look at iirc

spawnPrefab is the bool that dictates whether its supposed to spawn a prefab

but checking if suitMaterial is null is basically same thing anyway

its just you'll have to handle the sceneplaced unlockables that dont have spawnPrefab ticked iirc

[spiral axle]

oh, good to know

[sly marsh]

Does Atlas not debug log what it tries to set the sky to?

Let me check my player log wtf lol

[spiral axle]

god it's so bad

[oak linden]

it has some debug logs, if none ran that also gives me info

[oak linden]

lol i think there's an int as well that dictates that something is a decor

[oak linden]

the unlockableType

[spiral axle]

to be honest

i think i used it before that

i think

[sly marsh]

I'll prolly just blacklist Oxyde from it for now lol

[oak linden]

i think LLL doesnt recognise oxyde as a moon or smthn

[sly marsh]

Yeah prolly

[spiral axle]

oh does it not generate its ExtendedLevel?

[oak linden]

thats like the only null ref i can see happening

[sly marsh]

I think Oxyde already has a custom skybox anyways I think Atlas was likely trying to apply the Company one

[oak linden]

yeah oxyde has its own paid skybox

[sly marsh]

I added the moon to the blacklist that should theoretically make it happy I hope lol

[oak linden]

uh probably wont but u can try

[sly marsh]

Ah yeah it still errors damn

Lunar Config also fails to detect Oxyde for obvious reasons

It just goes "Hey this doesn't exist" basically

XD

Also interesting

Btw

[hardy anchor]

uh, wait. Thats a scopo error. Not lethallib. related to if enemy exists or not. Probably means he's not in the level

[sly marsh]

Why is Scopo logging under LethalLib? Didn't you migrate to DawnLib?

XD

Ah yeah you didn't migrate to the DawnLib stuff for spawning him yet got it

That's gonna be such a neat config cleanup to see

[hardy anchor]

It was a hacked together fix for v73, im doing his unity side rn. But yeah, thats a scopo / lethallib log from ShyGuySettings, and yep.

[sly marsh]

Ah yeah makes sense

[oak linden]

oh this, i blame @weary imp

[sly marsh]

Wow @weary imp I can't believe you put null AudioReverbTriggers on Oxyde

[weary imp]

I ate them audioreverbs

oops

[calm maple]

oops all reverbs

[oak linden]

(im still waiting on the audioclips that i lost the reference to from your project :p)

[weary imp]

oh right I'll check in a sec

[oak linden]

tanks

[cerulean gale]

just another update on the issues I said in git, after last patch the vanilla moons turn out to not be straight not listed but actually hidden like artifice

(I was able to make them listed with darmuh's)

for whatever reason upon reloading a lobby it tags all the vanilla moons as hidden

[oak linden]

Hmm okay

@flint needle what do you check for making those moons hidden?

[thorn abyss]

atm he not avaliable

[oak linden]

Hmm okay

[cerulean gale]

luckily I have found a workaround to the issue so its not a big deal till then

can just use displayallmoons from mrov

until then

[quick anvil]

this bug is still there 🥀

[oak linden]

This bug?

[quick anvil]

the one that we talked about 6 hours ago

oh wait
it might be something else actually
lemme investigate further, I'm very confused rn
later

[zenith remnant]

Can I get that code for that pack, I wanna see some of the mods you have

[frozen widget]

vro forgot the changelog@oak linden

[quick anvil]

vro forgot the fix 🥀 (the changelog is there btw )

[sly marsh]

@oak linden Lobby rejoins are still broken

[sly marsh]

Also reported the issue on the Github

[frozen widget]

actually it does work if you have the right mods

[sly marsh]

That doesn't make any sense

[frozen widget]

oh wait you're talking about leaving and rehosting

[sly marsh]

lol yes

[frozen widget]

yeah

i thought about late join

yeah rehosting is broken

[oak linden]

yeah im testing it now

well

i had no issues in my end

lol

ig ill look at lunxara's logs

[oak linden]

try this

btw it should reproduce in 0.3.13 and 0.3.14

[sly marsh]

This build fixes it

[white finch]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-yes-sir-yayy-kataman-gif-12260883688244422951

[sly marsh]

What was causing the issue?

lol

[oak linden]

dunno, might be a bit of LL ship upgrades tbh

[quick anvil]

lebron won't be delaying this time

[white finch]

-# Unless?

[quick anvil]

shut up

[sly marsh]

We will be starting a bit later regardless cus we're getting a pick up order today and I'll need to help bring in Groceries

But yeah unless anything major we need to wait on drops there shouldn't be any other delays

[oak linden]

ill be looking at a couple other issues today before dropping but ill drop it soon

[oak linden]

@cerulean gale i cant reproduce your issue with just the moonsplus page dawnlib and LLL, i'll need a profile

oh whoops i didnt follow teh steps properly, ill try again

deleting the save causes it

@white finch i can only reproduce with LLL

[white finch]

Whar

[oak linden]

for some reason this is returning hidden on all vanilla moons?

lol what

[white finch]

Oh wha

[oak linden]

it doesnt happen without DawnLib, so what is LLL checking to make these routes hidden?

[white finch]

I doth be checking

[white finch]

Checks if the moon's keyword result text actually contains the name of the moon, I think?

Thonk

[oak linden]

is there no where else?

i can check their nodes ig but that's a lil odd

also where is moonsKeyword coming from

[white finch]

For vanilla moons looks like it ye

Oh uhh

[white finch]

Oh it's just the moons terminal command

[oak linden]

right okay

i think i see whats happening

[oak linden]

okay is anyone still having save retaining issues?

because apparently purple is but i cant reproduce it at all

v0.3.15

• Fixed another issue created by some unlockables that caused errors.
• Fixed an incompat between LLL, DawnLib and DarmuhsTerminalStuff that made every moon hidden.
• Added a config to disable achievements button in the main menu.

I don't believe there are any more issues people have?

[dense iron]

is Oxyde registered in DawnLib only? (ie, not in LLL at all), if, so, then i think i got my changes working, sadly i think im forever dependent on LLL, unless i implement my own sorting system, or another sorting system independent of LLL arises, but I can at least support DawnLib registered moons now (i think).

although the only moon I have to test with is Oxyde, I dont know of another moon that registers in DawnLib 🙂

[oak linden]

Only oxyde for now ye

[dense iron]

well, oxyde doesnt appear in the moons list, but i see it in my logs and in my custom config, so yeah, seems i got it working 🙂

thanks for the help with it all

[oak linden]

That's a lil worrying lol

[dense iron]

that it doesnt appear on the moons list? let me double check, maybe i just didnt see it

[oak linden]

Ye, what moons list are u looking at too?

[dense iron]

yup, doesnt show in the moons list, but appears in my config.

well, i update the ratings by getting StartOfRound.Instance.levels by postfixing StartOfRound.Start

I dont touch the actual moons being loaded (so in theory, i disable my mod.. the moon list will be the same, just my ratings system wont be used)

[oak linden]

Can I get a modpack code

[dense iron]

one sec

so, without my mod.. also.. not showing in the moons list..
019a3a40-c4d3-f91c-b9fd-ae401bd6f272

my mod is a manually added DLL so I assume wont be included, but thats the code as i ran it just now, afaik, all mods are default settings.

ah, isnt the issue in code rebirth the setting "oxyde enabled from start"?

its defaulted to false.

nevermind, still cant see Oxyde.

[oak linden]

yeah that config isnt relevant rn

okay its a terminal formatter thing

@spiral axle whats TF using to detect what moons exist and show? cuz oxyde isnt showing in the moon catalogue

[sly marsh]

I mean Oxyde not showing up isn't the biggest deal, since Gordion also doesn't iirc

Company moons not showing up I'm cool with

[oak linden]

i mean its right there

[dense iron]

isnt Galetry a company moon? xD

[oak linden]

yeah it is lol

[carmine elk]

In my opinion if you document how to use DawnLib, converting an LLL moon over probably wouldn’t be that bad

[oak linden]

yeah it's very similar concepts

[dense iron]

so was looking at the code TF uses to get moons

it seems that two scenarios arise.

if LLL is installed, it gets the moons from LLL
https://github.com/AndreyMrovol/LethalMrovLib/blob/1b41b4c488440e66bbfc7096f4da657e0e2b5d11/MrovLib/Compatibility/LethalLevelLoader.cs#L31

if LLL is not installed, it checks the vanilla list.. and does something different with "company moons", which im guessing doesnt apply to Galetry.
https://github.com/AndreyMrovol/LethalMrovLib/blob/1b41b4c488440e66bbfc7096f4da657e0e2b5d11/MrovLib/LevelHelper.cs#L19

when in my mod i was looking at "Company Moons", i was checking for if the moon has scrap... which TF does.. but TF also runs a check for if the moon has time... which i guess the company (Gordion) also doesnt have time.

Galetry is from LLL, so, this time check isnt performed (unless LLL does that check).

but for Oxyde, if LLL is installed, i assume Oxyde is ignored... and if LLL isnt installed, im guessing its treat as a company moon so also ignored (which is possibly what you noticed as you mentioned company moons :D)

actually, i just realised that doesnt account for it being missing from the list... O.o

[dense iron]

Xu, does dawnlib provide its own Moons Catalog page? or do you just update Vanilla's?

with TF,DL and LLL installed, I see the TF moon catalog
with just DL and LLL installed, I see a moon catalog I dont recognise... so I am assuming thats modified from vanilla/provided by DL, where in I was expecting LLL's one.

I was trying to see if LLL's sorting would sort Oxyde correctly as I think it wont, but yeah, cant see Oxyde with TF and cant sort without TF because LLL's catalog isnt visible, and the one i see doesnt have sorting.

[spiral axle]

it's using LLL's moons catalogue

[quick anvil]

the lobby reload bug seems to be fixed
thank you xu xiaolan

[oak linden]

yeah i modify vanilla's

[oak linden]

can i see the code?

[spiral axle]

https://github.com/AndreyMrovol/LethalTerminalFormatter/blob/main/TerminalFormatter%2FNodes%2FMoons.cs#L72-L74

which calls this https://github.com/AndreyMrovol/LethalMrovLib/blob/main/MrovLib%2FCompatibility%2FLethalLevelLoader.cs#L56-L59

[oak linden]

and LLL does not recognise moons not registered by it?

[dense iron]

i think yours are added after LLL's, i had to move my patch later to see Oxyde in my config.

[oak linden]

hmm

that's surprising i think, ill see if moving my patch down fixes it

[spiral axle]

the fool-proof solution for me would be to just get the levels from vanilla arrays

[oak linden]

that would be nice

[dense iron]

but then you would be facing the issue im having right now, and also, the issue we kinda discussed before... custom sorting, because i dont think LLL would sort moons it cant see.

[spiral axle]

but that's gonna be a pain to include with LLL's insanity 😭

[oak linden]

which part of LLL do you need/gotta override?

does TF depend on LLL?

[spiral axle]

yeah, exactly

[spiral axle]

no, not really

this means I would finally need to make custom sorting stuff on my end

[dense iron]

im at a point where im using the vanilla moons list, but my updating of ratings, and updating the sort order, is relying on LLL's sorting.

[spiral axle]

that was my idea as well - to reference anything I can from LLL and to use vanilla list

but god that's gonna be fucked to implement and use

[oak linden]

well virus doesn't need any info from LLL, only the sorting functionality, afaik anyway

[dense iron]

well.. yeah.. cause non-lll moons not showing up is going to be a problem xD

just needs a seperate sorting system.

[oak linden]

mrov do you use anything from LLL's moon stuff like extended levels?

[spiral axle]

Only in LLL-dependent classes

which there are a few, but they have vanilla replacements when there's no LLL

[dense iron]

so how does your vanilla sorting work?

[spiral axle]

there's no sorting 😳

[dense iron]

xD when you said you had vanilla replacments, i thought you meant that too.

[spiral axle]

I've had a few attempts at making it, all failed

[dense iron]

hmm, being honest, i have no clue how the terminal stuff works.. well.. basic understanding.. but in theory, if the data can be sorted, then all it is is outputting the data, to the terminal... so is it just the sorting of the data that is not working?

[spiral axle]

yeah, it wouldn't be hard to sort stuff

but it would be harder to integrate commands to do so

(especially when LLL is present and using the same commands)

oh god I'm starting work on 5th project simultaneously 🙉

[oak linden]

lol

[dense iron]

well yeah, from my pov, any "independent" catalog would need to patch out other mod's commands x.x

[oak linden]

yeah i need to come up with a good solution for that

and im down to integrate some stuff if you need me to on my end for both of you if need be

[dense iron]

the problem (for me) is, I would want to support all aspects.

namely... Vanilla Only
Vanilla + LLL
Vanilla + DL
Vanilla + LLL + DL
Vanilla + some new mod that comes along and tries to do the same (unlikely i know, but hey..)

which is why i say an independent catalog is better (for me at least) to have a dependency on, because then LLL/DL/whatever could rely on the new catalog, rather than coming up with their own versions... but i think whatever catalog, as long as it supports all moons registered on any mod that allows registering of moons, and allows the functionality needed (sorting and displaying variables) it will be all good.

I am sort of already doing the custom ordering thing, but that relies on using LLL's sorting command and mechanic, so if i can assist with making sorting work, do let me know (in either of your cases)

[oak linden]

well the unlikely thing you said might not be so unlikely, i know jacob plans on making another API instead of all of us working on a central maintained API lol

[oak linden]

and yeah I'm sure I could come up with ways to hijack LLL's sorting command in DawnLib to also do my own sorting if I could find ways to implement different sorts

[spiral axle]

honestly i think that putting an effort into a separate terminal-sorting-managing mod does make a lot of sense

since - as you've said - when it's a part of bigger API it's gonna create another multi-dependency solutions down the road

[dense iron]

rip xD

I have seen the effects of people being pulled in different directions because of 3 options (of the basically same option) existing instead of just 1.. I dont predict (at least in what im witnessing elsewhere) that all 3 of those will survive.. people always choose one option.. and the others wither, or all wither.

[dense iron]

yup

[oak linden]

agreed tbh

[oak linden]

yeah like with LL and LLL they both handled different stuff so there was no tearing apart in different places, but since a lot of what jacob wants to do is basically the exact same thing im doing there's just gonna be a lot of repeats and compat hell 🙃

there's already a bit of compat hell in different places, i gotta get people to change some tag looking to also consider DawnLib too

speaking of which cough @white finch if itolib is doing stuff in places that uses a moons' tags etc, i'd appreciate a dawnlib soft depend that also grabs the tags from there

[spiral axle]

oh i would have to do the same thing 😅

so registry and others can get your tags

[oak linden]

yea, it's all strings so its not really that bad

[agile sky]

I wonder if it'd be possible to create a core lib every major content addition API would use to make compat simpler lol

[spiral axle]

living in the utopia

🥲

[oak linden]

i mean how would that even look like

[agile sky]

Every major lib looks at what they need, everyone discusses how to make a unified backend, 12 months later nothing has been done

[spiral axle]

oh we've done that already 😳

[agile sky]

amazing

[spiral axle]

so we're in utopia

nice

[agile sky]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-yes-sir-yayy-kataman-gif-12260883688244422951

[spiral axle]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-cat-gif-6906939104301495025

[sacred tulip]

Murv

[spiral axle]

frov

[oak linden]

that sounds like trying to get everyone on one central major api

[agile sky]

yep, except everyone can have their own API

[oak linden]

yeah but at that point why?

[agile sky]

kinda like the plan to lobotimize LethalLib

[oak linden]

yeah i should do that soon too

did you know LL makes a node that every unlockable has but only for decor? that was fun to find out

[agile sky]

it will simplify the life of people having to integrate support for major APIs

[oak linden]

no as in like, at that point why isnt everyone working on one major api

why do we need multiple

[agile sky]

oh nice (I have no idea about the terminal systems btw)

[oak linden]

because afaik what me and jacob are making are almost completely identical

[oak linden]

it's just a thing that points to a price

[agile sky]

That would be ideal, but if this modding community can't come up with a community project like R2API, it's not happening

we'd need every API maintainer to agree to make a project or move to a project that will be the API

such a project needs decisions to be done, and ContentLib failed because we couldn't decide how to do things and act on it, but damn I learned so much

[oak linden]

ContentLib also failed cuz i was super experienced and we were doing a lot that was unnecessary

inexperienced*

actually yeah it failed because i was too good for it 😎

[agile sky]

lol

[agile sky]

oh also about this, I'd say delay that until DawnLib has been free of issues for long enough. I'd say that a good plan would be to put out a LL fork out which is lobotomized and that'll work for testing out if everything works out smoothly, then it can be done for real

[oak linden]

Yeah that's fair

[white finch]

I do not actually, but I shall keep that in mind

[sacred tulip]

-# hey xu

[oak linden]

Hi cheese

[vernal umbra]

forgot to mention this update or the one before it fixed the problem i was having

[oak linden]

Yippee

I just need to fix LCBetterSave compat and dawnlib will be in a stable state

I do need a maintainer to work on vehicle and interior stuff tbh while I work on documentation or the other way around T_T

[vernal umbra]

oh

whats up with lcbettersaves

[oak linden]

It overrides the delete file button

So none of the vanilla functions run that I patch

So me trying to delete my own save file wouldn't work

Cuz my code would never run

[vernal umbra]

interesting

couldnt you just soft dep on it then hook its delete function then?

[oak linden]

Yea I just gotta understand what's going on there lol

[spiral axle]

oh bettersave

the issue creator

[oak linden]

yeah

tempted to just make my own

but it'll take a bit so i gotta make normal compat first

[oak linden]

v0.4.0

• Fixed incompat with LCBetterSave.

bumped to v0.4.0 because i think thats all major issues gone

[charred field]

Yes, please

[sly marsh]

I really hope you figure out the fix for the items falling through the ship floor, after like 2 or 3 lobby reloads things are pretty much completaly sank

Since Matty hasn't replied you might be able to check his code on his Github for it

https://github.com/mattymatty97/LTC_MattyFixes/blob/matty_fixes/Plugin/src/Patches/ItemPatches.cs Should be in here

Oh wait it's actually this patch

https://github.com/mattymatty97/LTC_MattyFixes/blob/matty_fixes/Plugin/src/Patches/OutOfBoundsItemsFix.cs

I was checking the config and the Out of Bounds section is for the items falling under the ship problem

[blazing nacelle]

reminder that my OutOfBounds fix ( and DawnLib's if it uses my approach on save ) is not compatible with mods like GI that completely remove item falling.

that will indeed cause items to slowly shift into the ground on each save they are not picked up and dropped again

[sly marsh]

I only have the rotation setting enabled in GI unless that also messes with it, but it didn't before DawnLib overwrote your stuff

So Xu should implement your Out of Bounds fix into DawnLib or you should probably make your Out of Bounds fix work with DawnLib

Idk which would be preferred that is up to you 2

Idek if the rotation setting in GI is needed anymore though

I think Xu is already saving rotations

I will test that rq on a seperate save

Yeah DawnLib does indeed save them

[obtuse pecan]

Lmao I swear if this cause issues to the SSS (like Matty said incompatible with GI) I'll destroy Oxyde

[sly marsh]

The SSS is fine, it's just the floor stuff

[obtuse pecan]

Ah yeah that's true I forgot that

I just woke up, I'm not thinking straight

[blazing nacelle]

i mean MattyFixes has been incompatible with GI's items falling option for a while 😅

[obtuse pecan]

Yeah but these 2 Im already handling it

[oak linden]

I just don't really get the out of bounds fix

Why would it incrementally get worse every lobby reload

How can items sink into the ground

Not a question for u lunxara

I'm asking matty

[sly marsh]

Oh I know, I just know it's some whack Vanilla issue

I think Matty described it in his thread once but it was uhhh

Ages ago

So yeah asking him again is good

[oak linden]

Because the raycast should just put it on top of the collider, the raycast can't hit the collider whilst inside it no?

[oak linden]

@blazing nacelle

Again, it's a question for matty

[sly marsh]

Oh yeah btw Xu, your fix for scraps on furnitures only works for 1 lobby reload, if they aren't picked up and dropped again they then fall onto the floor I've reprod it with Maxwell on the Electric Chair and Gazpachos by the Ship Lever

lolol

Not too sure why, I think the same sinking thing might happen that is going on with the floor stuff perhaps

[blazing nacelle]

raycast has to be strictly above the collider. below, inside, inline will all result on the raycast missing

you could fix it the opposite way if you wanted tho Xu

instead of fixing the save positon you could fix the raycast location 😅

[oak linden]

yeah but then how are items progressively getting deeper and deeper into the ground? if the raycast misses what position is it using?

[blazing nacelle]

there are multiple issues with items at spawn

one is the raycast starting from the origin instead of the vertical offset position
another is that the game saves the origin instead of the offset
3rd is that not all items will fall on spawn depending on a flag in itemProperties ( in vanilla only the apparatus has that flag set )
4th is that items will fall twice for clients, once on the host a second time when client joins and gets the host positions

[blazing nacelle]

it misses meaning it does not move, but when you save it again you still subtract the vertical offset as if the item had moved. therefore sinking it even more

[oak linden]

i see

[blazing nacelle]

you could mitigate it by only shifting items with negative vertical offset

but thoose would still have the same issues

plus items would break if anything changes the vertical offset while offline ( eg: mod update )

[oak linden]

so when spawning the item i need to add the vertical offset to the spawn position?

honestly i gotta check the spawn code i wrote earlier i forgot what it had tbh

[blazing nacelle]

the reliable solution is to do the shift during save

so you ensure the origin is always above the collider and it doesn't matter what other mods do

[oak linden]

hmm i thought i already removed vertical offset from the position when saving

[blazing nacelle]

you'll most likely have to add that small fixed offset like it do (0.01f up )

just removing the vertical offset puts it still inline with the collider and unity is not smart enough to deal with that condition

[sly marsh]

Ideally prolly should make it configurable like you do as well just incase it'd ever need adjusted for some reason but your value has never caused me issues

[blazing nacelle]

i made it configurable just because i could. there is no reason to change it. even float.Epsilon would work

[oak linden]

yeah true

[blazing nacelle]

i don't think it's in DawnLib scope to fix point 3 and 4 tho

[oak linden]

Yeah that's fine

I dont get how number 4 happens tho

[blazing nacelle]

host: loads a save -> joins the game

host: items spawn at post x

host: GrabbableItem.Start() -> item fall to pos y

client: joins the game -> items spawn at pos y

client: GrabbableItem.Start() -> item fall to pos z

host: item pos y
client: item pos z

y != z

all of this because there isn't a single NetworkTransform in the entire game 😅

all clients are supposed to repeat exactly the same options of the others and if they don't you get desyncs

[oak linden]

icic lol

[hollow viper]

maybe im wrong but i think there shouldnt be raycast at all when loading save (or raycast only for items that was pocketed/held before server close)

like why would you calculate ground pos if you already saved it

-# i didnt read all of it if it was already said

[oak linden]

most basic answer is that some stuff in the ship might not exist the next time you load up a save, which is something that the dawnlib saving supports

[hollow viper]

can you give example?

[blazing nacelle]

items ( especially modded items ) can change rotations/vertical offset or get removed/added

for that reason i decided to patch them on save instead of on load

also w/o editing the save format you cannot know if a spawned item was previously being held or if it was just placed there

main example is if you drop an item on the file cabinet then move the cabinet

on reload what should happen to thoose items?

[charred field]

saw you changed the UI! looks nice

i'll give some more pointers later

but you probably already know the main one lol

[sacred tulip]

Face reveal

[oak linden]

yeah that moon is supposed to be a bit higher lol

the UI in the unity project does NOT match ingame at all, so every change needs me to do a reload, left it as that for now

v0.4.1

• Removed some redundant code.
• Implemented an OutOfBounds fix from MattyFixes into here due to having a saving system.
• Fixed client being able to pull lever during the start of the game that would break the lever.
• Readme and wiki updated with more information about how to create content with DawnLib.
• Started work on a new API with a new maintainer.

[charred field]

also the moon name being a little bit to the right

lol

[oak linden]

I thought u wanted it indented 😔

[charred field]

yea like my forehead

oh yeah ig my graphic does show it indented

no that's an incredible mistake but no

[zenith remnant]

New api?

[normal ridge]

its my api

don't you know?

[oak linden]

Like a new thing people can make in dawnlib

[zenith remnant]

Oh

[meager inlet]

this might look slightly cleaner if the dotted line was a little less thick and matched the blue of the routing text

[spiral axle]

👀

[charred field]

it seems to be a similar color, it's just the letters on the routing text are so thin it crunches em up and makes em look a different color due to LC's post proc effect

well, if i had to guess anyway

[meager inlet]

still different in practice tho

[charred field]

i guess thats true

do you reckon the color should be changed to not match the text in editor but in game?

[meager inlet]

whatever ends up consistent

[vernal umbra]

does this mean i should disable the item clipping patch in matty fixes

[sly marsh]

I noticed items still sink into the ground when using Bigger Ship at least

testing the new update

dunno if it happens with Mel's

[oak linden]

I'll take a look

[oak linden]

If its the same thing I implemented which I believe it is then yeah

[sly marsh]

What exactly in Matty Fixes have you all implemented?

Outside of OOB and maybe Item Clipping

lol

[oak linden]

Iunno, only the relevant stuff mentioned that's happening during saving/loading

[blazing nacelle]

item clipping has nothing to do with what xu implemented.
OutOfBounds does. but you should not disable it as xu only implemented the parts during game save. other fixes are still needed

Mattyfixes save patch doesn't run with DawnLib as DawnLib replaced the save code in its entirety 😅

[sly marsh]

Neat

[oak linden]

@hallow galleon just a fair bit of warning i did make a breaking change that lethalmin wont like, got rid of the AlwaysKeepLoaded field

it's not just handled automatically

mpw*

now**

v0.4.2

• Added support for PlayerControllerReference, int and double in NetworkVariables
• Added components from DawnLib and DuskMod to be visible within the list in the Add Component Menu
• Added PlanetUnlocker a useable grabbable object to unlock a planet that uses ProgressivePredicate
• Actually implemented the OutOfBounds fix from MattyFixes, I accidently forgot.
• Removed some unneeded obsolete fields like AlwaysKeepLoaded

[urban plaza]

how far are you on the docs>?

[oak linden]

i've got i think most of the setup done

the code template was finished this morning so people can just clone and use it

[paper fog]

i made 1 scrap with LL once, how hard is it with dawn

[oak linden]

Code or no code?

[paper fog]

no code me think

[oak linden]

I mean it's better in both ways really, but it can feel overkill for 1 scrap

[paper fog]

just wanna get the feel of it back then but kinda forgor to continue
noisemaker something

[oak linden]

i mean hey, if you wanna do it, step 1 is to get a v73 patched project, and thats one thing i gotta write doc for so people know how to do it properly lol

[meager inlet]

What does that networkvariable point refer to, do they not already work in them?

[oak linden]

zeekerss only ever uses NetworkVariable<int> in base game, which is why its the only NetworkVariable that will work in modding, unless you write some manual code (which is also the manual code that is in __GEN and what the netcode patcher code step we used to have does)

[meager inlet]

Ah modding related

[oak linden]

like we no longer need the netcode patcher code step for rpc's, it's just for networkvariables, and even then it's only like two lines of code for each type to be supported so i just manually wrote it instead of having Assembly.GetTypes run

ye

will only be modding related

[meager inlet]

now add NetworkContentReference

Your also legally obligated to ignore any suggestion i throw at you until i stop being lazy and make actual github issues for them

[oak linden]

lol, technically they're already passable via rpc's but not the most convenient since it's just two strings being passed into an rpc

[meager inlet]

Not convenient and not performant !

[oak linden]

yep, which is why i don't use it unless i absolutely need to but yeah it's on the eventual bucket list

[meager inlet]

I forget the specifics but lll 2.0 does it in a cool way where it uses static lists in generics where the type itself is used to conveniently point towards the right list for indexing

https://github.com/IAmBatby/LethalLevelLoader/blob/main/LethalLevelLoader/Core/Data/NetworkStructs/NetworkContentReference.cs

Oh right it’s because of this weird even, circular power dynamic where definitions of ExtendedContent must define a generic value that’s a ExtendedManager that must define a generic value that’s a ExtendedContent that is defined with this manager

So the defined coupling of the ExtendedContent & ExtendedManager allows for some cool relations between them that can be setup in the base class

[urban plaza]

i have also technically made one scrap but i do code instead of no code, i was just checking your wiki for it earlier and it blank

which is okay

i was just wondering

[hollow viper]

Basically same steps as lll with some extra/different steps

Also still can use code for it, no big difference

[urban plaza]

fumoffu

[urban plaza]

Oh wow it really is, i mustve legit missed it by n hour when i checked before i slept. awesome, thanks

[urban plaza]

🤔

[agile sky]

if documentation was written by the SCP foundation

[white finch]

"The solution to your very specific issue is the following: [DATA EXPUNGED]"

[vernal umbra]

17 year old reddit thread but the solution is from a deleted account

[white finch]

"Nvm I fixed it" *refuses to elaborate*

https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-chad-gif-20773266

[vernal umbra]

too fucking real

[oak linden]

I did say I kept a couple placeholders I had to check, but also according to someone this part isn't even needed anymore

[urban plaza]

yeah i just figured id delete the unity template stuff

[oak linden]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/TeamXiaolan/DawnLib/wiki/4101-c1-moons/ im starting to fill up the pages with some super basic and pretty nondetailed explanations for what you need to do as guidelines for different content

i do hate how thunderstore made everythign in one line though, i definitely line breaked

[charred field]

you gotta do <br> twice if you want a space in-between lines

[oak linden]

ill give it a try

okay i thought i tried it before, guess not

noice

thx

https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1434918235291259050 also if anyone's interested

[frozen widget]

is there a wiki for dawnlib btw?

cuz i don't wanna bother xu by asking what does what

[sacred tulip]

Its in progress afaik

[oak linden]

The thunderstore wiki yeah

It's being updated rn but it has the basic info on it

[hollow viper]

dw, you will

[frozen widget]

https://tenor.com/view/bird-shower-parrot-conure-good-night-gif-5222703760618736536

[oak linden]

it all comes back around like a circle 😔

[frozen widget]

https://tenor.com/view/markiplier-scared-meme-gif-17957807826502066848

[oak linden]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/TeamXiaolan/DawnLib/wiki/4266-f1-utility-scripts/
documentation on utility scripts is also there

[hot zenith]

should this be ignored?

[hollow viper]

Yes

[oak linden]

@white finch it seems like referencing Oxyde as an ExtendedLevel causes issues? i've noticed this in a few mods errors now

Plugin.Spam($"{LevelManager.CurrentExtendedLevel.NumberlessPlanetName}, {LevelManager.CurrentExtendedLevel.IsRouteLocked}, {LevelManager.CurrentExtendedLevel.IsRouteHidden}, {LevelManager.CurrentExtendedLevel.LockedRouteNodeText}"); errors too for example

[white finch]

Oh whar

[oak linden]

im guessing its some incompat with DawnLib as a moonloader but maybe LLL isn't making an extendedlevel for it?

but i feel like that'd cause more issues

[white finch]

I mean yeah I don't think there'd be an ExtendedLevel made for it but I can double check

[oak linden]

im wonderin if i gotta inject myself in some places in LLL to make it recognise DawnLib moons as modded moons too

[white finch]

I mean I could add soft compat too

I know where thy content lurks

Unless uh

[oak linden]

tru tru

[white finch]

It causes cyclic dependency, but I dunno if you have LLL as a soft dependency

[oak linden]

uhh lemme check

yea i got rid of it

i dont need it to load before me

[oak linden]

@white finch just checked this and yeah there's no ExtendedLevel for it

[white finch]

Ye

I shall look into it

[oak linden]

im honestly surprised LLL doesnt error on its own cuz of that

tanks

[sacred tulip]

🌄

[quick anvil]

🎑

Can we have more rice scenes?

[oak linden]

v0.4.3

• Fixed incompat with moresuits.
• Gave more configs to moons.
• Fixed a long standing issue with registering no-code mods when you have multiple pieces of content.

[thorn abyss]

more configs to moons? 👀

[oak linden]

To dawnlib moons but ye

Cost and whatnot

[thorn abyss]

gotcha

[split gale]

YOU MOTHERFUCKER
shakes you around and spills out your lunch money

This mod was causing my pain and suffering!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

wait what

HAT DO YOU MEAN IT ISN'T DAWNLIB

IT'S SOLIDLIB

Helldivers2

@odd hemlock Ohhhhhhhhhhh Solid

Do you wanna get a treat or blow up

[sly marsh]

I haven’t had any problems, maybe it’s the Shockwave Drone showing up?

Cus I do use that mod but people usually kill it and bring the scrap back

Lol

[split gale]

no

It happens on every moon

Drone or not

[sly marsh]

Hmmmm

Since you have Terminal Formatter the detailed scan is a good workaround lol, I also wonder if using Lethal Fixes’ exact scan setting fixes it but yeah it’s weird

[sly marsh]

Does this setting fix it if you enable it in Lethal Fixes?

[split gale]

No I got my results from Imperium

There were physically only around 3 scrap items in the facility usually

[sly marsh]

Weird, maybe some issue when using SolidLib and Imperium together

[split gale]

Na

I disabled Imperium too to test

Found jack shit

[sly marsh]

🤔

[split gale]

and scanned jack shit

Glue

[sly marsh]

Is it happening on vanilla, custom moons, or both?

[split gale]

All

[sly marsh]

Weird

I haven't reprod this at all

[split gale]

Well it's an issue specific to moons modified by Lunar

Disable Lunar, and the problem goes away

[sly marsh]

🤔

[split gale]

Yeah, I know, we're confused as fuck too

😭

[sly marsh]

Maybe you could enable Extended Logging for SolidLib and then send your log to Solid after reproing it with Extended Logging

[cerulean gale]

Just making sure, if dawn save system is off items using dawn will be saved a different way?

[oak linden]

they'll be saved using vanilla yeah

[cerulean gale]

Ok, i do have some conflicts to report but ill have to do more testing haha

[oak linden]

okie, let me know

[cerulean gale]

Rn im pretty sure its furniture lock

[sly marsh]

Furniture Lock has been fine for me

[cerulean gale]

Ejecting spammed errors

And had both the normal ship and 2 story models at once

And furniture locations not saved

[zenith remnant]

@oak linden Is the moon supposed to be on the loading bar?

[oak linden]

a bit up but been lazy to move it up

[zenith remnant]

Also, is there still any known issues with dawnlibs item saving? I tried it awhile back, but I was having a lot of item saving issues, like items opened from present kept spawning presents when reopening the save, and items from old saves would appear in new ones.

[thorn abyss]

It works now

[thorn abyss]

altought, a small bug report regarding the rotation of the items.
It kinda bugs out when using reserved slot, if you leave and you have for example, a walkie in your reserved slot, it will appear in a weird rotation, like if it's stand up

not game breaking,but it happens

[oak linden]

afaik most if not all issues are resolved

[oak linden]

i might not be able to do anything about that

it's likely reserved slot rotating something in your inventory or something similar when its reserved

i just save the position and rotation when the game runs its saving stuff

[zenith remnant]

Okay, last thing. Is this DawnLib's fault or another mod?

I get this when trying to route to Oxyde after unlocking it in my constellation/sector. It used to work before but recently it broke, and I suspect dawnlib might be the cause.

019a4fbb-ad5a-9745-2adf-129b665d024c

[oak linden]

it's a fault on LLL afaik, Paco said they're looking into it, so hopefully next LLLU update it's fine

[zenith remnant]

@white finch Is there a ETA on this?

[calm maple]

[white finch]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-blink-blinkingcat-cute-funny-gif-8859604814399687515

[normal ridge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1366565488817213440/1387934775943364618/IMG_0277.gif

[spiral axle]

having free time? never on this server

keep grinding @white finch

[meager inlet]

Are the tags here founded on them being <string, string> kvp designed or have you planned for the data tag stuff lll was meant to have yonders ago

[oak linden]

As I was saying before my pc crashed, I couldn't think of a good usecase for the data tag stuff, the only time I would've ever thought it to be used was for the ogopogo enemy, but that's also partially not the tags responsibility to fix the issues related to that
So ye rn it's just a NamespacedKey, I.e. lethal_company:natural

[meager inlet]

I agree that it’s not a good way to fully do it but I disagree that there might not be good use cases for it

On phone and been awake for like 28 hours one sec

[oak linden]

Sure take ur time

[meager inlet]

I think in a perfect world a content lib for unity would actually take an approach similar to the post processing profiles, particle systems and to a lesser extent materials (the latter being a 1:1 usecase for the more primitive datatag idea)

That way vanilla properties, api properties and any additional mod properties could be easily setup as like modules

Inspiration for me bringing this up was I was thinking about that mod i was making that is a dungen api that makes it easier to tap into the generation for stuff like my cool windows and holes and it had me thinking how much of that (if any) should theoretically be an api’s responsibility

[oak linden]

That would be cool as an editor tool packaged with the popular libs tbh yeah

[meager inlet]

Lc api’s have been good and gooder at empowering devs to build ontop of custom content but they for the most part haven’t done tooo much in standardising the way core systems can be expanded upon

[oak linden]

Hmm, I honestly don't get your point too much but I'll ask someone to help me understand it lol, and yeah it does feel like I've hit a bit of a point where I can't make something like DawnLib be any better if that makes sense, and I don't mean performance wise

[meager inlet]

Like if two mods want to expand upon the same system (eg. my dungeon mod and raph's dungenplus) the major api's have no real intended method of properly handling that

a more specific scenario going off that is what if we both want to add serialized data to Tile components

(this is closer to theory than an important practical suggestion)

[thorn abyss]

before I almost forgot.
Setted price for oxyde

appears free ingame

[oak linden]

appears free, is it also free or not?

[thorn abyss]

ok, I see what you mean

is there a way to show the price in the moon's catalog?

[oak linden]

there is, i might've just forgotten to do that part

is this a custom terminal or vanilla?

the good part is that the price is actually applied and is there, that means its just a tiny problem

oh but i'd appreciate it if you can put this on the github

[thorn abyss]

damruh's moon plus

[oak linden]

im writing documentation rn and helping #1263283058266603644 so ill probably forget

[thorn abyss]

on Darmuh's TerminalStuff

kk, dw

[oak linden]

okie thats fine then

thanks

[oak linden]

took a few hours but
https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/TeamXiaolan/DawnLib/wiki/4099-b2-registering-via-unity-editor/
https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/TeamXiaolan/DawnLib/wiki/4101-c1-moons/
these two pages are about as polished as i could get them

for documentation

[thorn abyss]

cool!

[charred field]

gogus mentioned

idk what he has to do with this but gogus mentioned

[oak linden]

lol

it's related to how he picks where he spawns

[charred field]

pea brained

[oak linden]

the idea was that a tag could contain a position he'd pick for spawning

because, and no offense, the way his whole spawning thing is (how it was back then atleast when i looked at the code, idk about now), not that great

[charred field]

you can already do moon compat w ogo fairly easily as a moon maker tbh

[oak linden]

yeah but it's the fact that you gotta do moon compat

[charred field]

don't think it's changed

[oak linden]

like yes it's easy, but in an ideal scenario the enemy would work standalone in these scenarios

[charred field]

you can do custom coordinate spawns now as a user though

atleast

lol

[charred field]

yee probably

[meager inlet]

better than nothing and i get why thats a thing but in isolation that is a very bad solution

[charred field]

totally lol

the coordinates have been a thing since release iirc, they're just configurable now

it was a very jank workaround for ogopogo not liking Vow's thin and shallow rivers

current way to implement moon compat tho is good for specifically me cuz I don't get complaints about how the enemy's unfair or anything, since it's on the layout if the enemy doesn't play well

[thorn abyss]

hey @oak linden, still busy to check this?

[oak linden]

Good morning to ya too

I got a game dev panel I have to go to in about an hour so imma make food, ill check it out when I'm back lol

Or while I'm eating, will see ig

[quick anvil]

Config itself is actually a bit dookie
Disabling nancy and scrap-e doesn't disable them so I had to set the weight on 0

[oak linden]

They're probably enabled by oxyde or smthn else then

Dunno why I'd keep them enabled for oxyde though, might be an oversight

[quick anvil]

Maybe

[oak linden]

Why is the first hour of this panel "AI story telling"

Oh cool the team who made vampire survivors is here

Apparently someone who worked on inscryption too

[thorn abyss]

Good morning, it was almost midnight when I asked :']

Sorry

[sly marsh]

Why would you wanna disable Nancy?

[quick anvil]

:c

She kills people

[sly marsh]

Yeah if you move when she's trying to heal you

Just stop skill issuing

[quick anvil]

I was not fuckin moving

[sly marsh]

Oh idk then lol

maybe it's rng

[spiral axle]

no

[sly marsh]

Wdym no? 🤔

[quick anvil]

It was mrov

Mrov jammed nancy to kill people

[oak linden]

stop moving kiszony

[quick anvil]

[spiral axle]

no it's not rng

[sly marsh]

Yeah didn't think so, from what I was told it's related to if you move while she heals you

[spiral axle]

perish

[urban plaza]

How do you change the scan node colour using dawnlib

[white finch]

ForceScanColorOnItem component

[urban plaza]

I underestimated how hard this would be for my pea brain to take in without docs, I should have just used lethallib

[urban plaza]

words on a page to me bro...

[white finch]

Add that component to the item

Or uh

Are you doing DawnLib editor stuff or code-only

[urban plaza]

code only

[white finch]

Actually yeah you can probably get away with adding just adding it to the prefab and tweaking parameters in code: https://github.com/TeamXiaolan/DawnLib/blob/main/DawnLib/src/Utils/MiscScripts/ForceScanColorOnItem.cs

like prefab.AddComponent<ForceScanColorOnItem>()

[urban plaza]

This. Changes. Everything.

Thank you

[oak linden]

ye i forgor to respond but i use it in code too in some places, it's pretty neat

[quiet comet]

I have a question for you in regards to dawnlibs achievement system, if I were to add them to a particular interior I've created, Can end users use the interior without it installed if they don't want them, or will it's absence cause errors? @oak linden

[oak linden]

If dawnlib isn't installed it should be fine, assuming you add interior via LLL

It might have a couple warnings if you use some scripts but nothing error or broken

This is assuming u do no-code registration

[quiet comet]

neat, thankies

[floral helm]

hey @oak linden i'm getting this while debugging a pack (followed by the game just opening in vanilla)

[13:47:29.6452170] [Fatal  :   BepInEx] System.Exception: Cyclic Dependency:
 - MrovLib
 - mrov.WeatherRegistry
 - com.github.teamxiaolan.dawnlib
 - imabatby.lethallevelloader
 - AudioKnight.StarlancerMoons
  at BepInEx.Utility.TopologicalSort[TNode] (System.Collections.Generic.IEnumerable`1[T] nodes, System.Func`2[T,TResult] dependencySelector) [0x0009e] in <cebe69d7792f4abca78b685257766c60>:0 
  at (wrapper dynamic-method) BepInEx.Bootstrap.Chainloader.DMD<BepInEx.Bootstrap.Chainloader::Start>()
[13:47:29.6452170] [Message:   BepInEx] Chainloader startup complete```

do you know what could it be?

(sorry for the ping)

(this is the profile 019a5e98-2730-2ec4-cde3-46c86ade8b8c)

[oak linden]

It's a cyclic dependency issue, basically the mods you see there are soft depending on eachother and it caused the mods to eventually depend on themselves which breaks em

Caused by LLL soft depending on DawnLib but I think mrovlib might just have a ton of unnecessary soft dependencies

So mrov was pinged in #1193461151636398080

[floral helm]

I've never had a problem with yours/mrovs/LLL that's why i'm a bit puzzled

[oak linden]

Yeah it's something that has only rarely happened before and in some cases non preventable

The idea as well is that a mod soft depends on another so that the other mod loads it's stuff first, but if both mods cause a circle dependency bepinex cries and doesn't know which to load first and breaks

It's no fault of any particular mod but I believe mrovlib has unnecessary soft dependencies declared

[floral helm]

i see, i'll wait for mrov to take a look then, thanks xu

[oak linden]

Ye, I'll take a look at his code too just incase later

Worst case scenario @white finch redirects his soft dependencies to dusk instead of dawn

[oak linden]

Actually that wouldn't work lol nvm

#1193461151636398080 paco read here when u see this

[weary tangle]

dunno if this is something to be put here but just leaving it incase:

[Debug  :   BepInEx] Skipping loading C:\Users\lloyd\AppData\Roaming\r2modmanPlus-local\LethalCompany\profiles\Acalians Company\BepInEx\plugins\qwbarch-OpusDotNet\opus.dll because it's not a valid .NET assembly. Full error: Format of the executable (.exe) or library (.dll) is invalid.
[Info   :   BepInEx] 151 plugins to load
[Warning:   BepInEx] Skipping [LethalLevelLoader 1.4.11] because a newer version exists (LethalLevelLoader 1.5.3)
[Fatal  :   BepInEx] Error occurred starting the game
[Fatal  :   BepInEx] System.Exception: Cyclic Dependency:
 - com.github.teamxiaolan.dawnlib
 - imabatby.lethallevelloader
 - MrovLib
 - mrov.WeatherRegistry
 - CodeRebirth
  at BepInEx.Utility.TopologicalSort[TNode] (System.Collections.Generic.IEnumerable`1[T] nodes, System.Func`2[T,TResult] dependencySelector) [0x0009e] in <cebe69d7792f4abca78b685257766c60>:0 
  at (wrapper dynamic-method) BepInEx.Bootstrap.Chainloader.DMD<BepInEx.Bootstrap.Chainloader::Start>()
[Message:   BepInEx] Chainloader startup complete```

[white finch]

Fixed on newest versions of both MrovLib and LLLU

Updating only MrovLib will work too, if LLLU update still hasn't shown up in your manager

[weary tangle]

none of em have yet XD hahaha will it fix the error completley?

[white finch]

Ye

It was a goof

[weary tangle]

fair XD

[normal ridge]

i fucked up 😭

i just saw the messages, ignore me

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1389695007153324162/1433259178733867100/84EC1F56-322D-4BFD-913A-148892099B91.gif

[weary tangle]

anyone got an idea what this mean? XD

[Warning: DawnLib] Min (64) is bigger than Max (32), setting Min to 32
it was in my log on startup 39 times in a row one after the other XD

[oak linden]

Coderebirth stuff, it's just some config defaults in there that aren't super accurate

[broken summit]

Hey! I think I’ve run into a conflict between DawnLib and LethalConstellations, and I’d really appreciate a sanity check or a fix if possible.

Game / setup (short):

• Lethal Company v73
• LethalConstellations v0.3.2 (darmuh)
• LethalLevelLoader v1.4.11 (IAmBatby)
• OpenLib, LethalLib, LethalNetworkAPI, LethalModDataLib
• DawnLib v0.4.4 (TeamXiaolan)
• (plus other mods, but I can reproduce this just by keeping DawnLib + LethalConstellations + their core deps)

What’s going wrong:

With LethalConstellations alone, the terminal behaves as expected:

• Each constellation has its own set of moons.
• When I type moons in the terminal, I only see moons belonging to the current constellation.
• Moons from other constellations are hidden and can’t be routed to.

But when I enable DawnLib:

• Typing moons suddenly shows all vanilla moons (and some extra modded ones), even in a constellation where they shouldn’t be available.
• Example: I’m on a constellation where Titan is not supposed to be accessible, but moons still lists Titan.

However, the locking logic still works:

• If I try route titan from that constellation, LethalConstellations correctly blocks it and says that Titan isn’t available / isn’t in this constellation.
• So under the hood, the constellation & lock system is still doing its job – it’s just the displayed list in moons that’s wrong.

In short:
With DawnLib enabled, the moons list ignores constellation restrictions, but routing still respects them.

How I narrowed it down:

• I reset configs for LethalConstellations and LethalLevelLoader → no change.
• I tested disabling various “terminal-ish” mods (ChatCommands, gambling mods, etc.) → no change.
• When I disable DawnLib, the problem disappears immediately:

• moons once again only shows moons from the active constellation.
  • Moons outside the constellation are both hidden in the list and blocked on route.

When I turn DawnLib back on, the issue returns.

Because CodeRebirth and some other mods I like depend on DawnLib, I’d really love to keep using it — but the broken moons list makes constellations very confusing to play with.

What I’m hoping for:

If possible, it would be amazing to have either:

• a toggle / config option in DawnLib to not touch the moons catalogue / terminal moon list when another mod (like LethalConstellations) is managing it,
  or
• some compatibility adjustment so DawnLib’s terminal handling doesn’t override constellation-based moon visibility.

If you’d like, I can also provide:

• my full mod list,
• logs from when I open moons and try route titan on a restricted constellation,
  or test a debug build.

Also, CodeRebirth is pretty core to my pack, so I’d love to keep using DawnLib if we can make it play nice with LethalConstellations.

Thanks a lot in advance 🙏

[oak linden]

A modpack code would be amazing yeah

Iirc when I was doing lethal constellations compat it was fine but I didn't go too deep into the mod

I'll ask darmuh about it

[broken summit]

here you are 019a74ca-f5df-0647-b70d-c23f13bb6e02, this is a very amateur pack, bc I'm not even a modder

[broken summit]

okay

[broken summit]

I'm not sure that is dawnlib enabled here, so if it is not, turn it on please

[oak linden]

Okie

Can't test now but will later tmrw

[broken summit]

okay

[zenith remnant]

I have all those mods and I’m not getting that issue

I can send my modpack code too

[oak linden]

Likely config difference, I'd appreciate a modpack code yeah

[wind mist]

@oak linden Welcome to my 1,776th question, because Cost here is defined as get only, I am able to get it's value with .Provide() like you told me almost 4 weeks ago, but to set it, is my only option patching it's constructor?

The same thing is found in things like weights for items and other places I need to reach into an Info class

[hollow viper]

i think you cant set it at all because its getter only

Actually, i think you can il patch constructor but it will be messy

[wind mist]

I think I'm able to, I just don't know how to make an IProvider

[hollow viper]

Wdym make, its just interface in dawnlib

Oh wait you mean set it?

IProvider<type> variable = new SimpleProvider<type>(value)

Iirc

[wind mist]

I didn't test it but it looks like it should work :p

[hollow viper]

doubt but you can try

[oak linden]

that works i think?

[frozen widget]

how do i register a moon in dawnlib

same thing as everything else?

like just placing everything in the same bundle and making a modinfo bundle for it?

and also is it 1 moon per bundle like LLL?

[oak linden]

1 scene per scene bundle

The dawnlib wiki has the information on how to register a DawnLib moon

[frozen widget]

link?

(pleab)

[oak linden]

It's the thunderstore wiki

I'm on phone rn just go to the thunderstore page

[oak linden]

v0.4.5

• Edited MapObjects in the editor to be much easier to add onto.
• Added Interior priority onto MapObject SpawnWeights.
• Fixed issue with interior registration weights.
• Added blank reference replacing with interior SpawnSyncedObjects, butlerbees, enemy ai nests, haunted mask, sapsucker, lungprop script.
• Fixed another issue with unlockables when saving.
• Gave DawnLib Interiors SpawnWeight configs.
• Gave DawnLib Moons a lot more configs.
• Did more work onto documentation and made the editor experience cleaner.

This might reset people's map object configs

Well since the moon one got replaced by moon + interior then yea probably

[fallen ledge]

trying to get this to work in unity, but i'm getting these errors. loading a save just puts me in the Weed Void. this is on a freshly patched project with only the DawnLib unitypackage + mmhook

[oak linden]

Yes you can't use DawnLib in the unity editor to how some stuff is implemented

[oak linden]

Apparently DawnLib currently causes an issue where clients can't join host, I think I spotted the reason just gotta test and upload, if you're playing multi etc just downgrade one version

[candid shale]

Hello, I was pointed to this thread after some troubleshooting, I think there may be a problem with the new Dawnlib update. Whenever I try to land on a moon the ship skips the landing animation and doesn't open the ship door. My mod code is 019a83bd-0c37-dc8f-bdc4-c3c8728c90ce. Unfortunately I'm on Thunderstore and having trouble figuring out how to copy the logs for you guys, I do have a couple of screenshots but I'm not sure if they'll totally help. Just figured I'd let you guys know about what's going on

[oak linden]

You mind if I send a zip to test? Just to see if issue is fixed

[candid shale]

Sure, I don't mind

[oak linden]

Okay just a minute then

[vagrant gulch]

This also break connection of players in the lobby.

[oak linden]

@candid shale if you could test that that'd be great

[oak linden]

You can downgrade one version for now or test the zip I just sent btw

[vagrant gulch]

Ye, downgrading worked, we were able to connect.