Legend Weathers

[proper fossil]

Thats kinda brutal for embrion haha

If i were to do it i qould prob put embrion like second

[empty basin]

not really

[wild folio]

i coulda sworn hcim was one moon a quota?

[empty basin]

that is speedrun.coms version

i fucking hate they adopted that name

idk why they did

[wild folio]

oh lol

[empty basin]

but the original version is all moons eclipsed

[minor bloom]

ik how it works I just wanna know if it's a quota or day you have to spend at each

ah so days, got it

[proper fossil]

Oh so you doing speedrun.com version?

You wanna make it a category? 👀

Pioneering

[empty basin]

no im not

[minor bloom]

my new speedrun category will be called fuckyou% and the goal is to burn/explode every killable enemy at least once

brutally and unapologetically

[empty basin]

its actually easier to do that format

because you can get jetpack by first quota consistently

in a normal ironman run you cannot get jet unless youre lucky its on sale

[proper fossil]

Understood

But then

What version are you doing

Og?

[empty basin]

just
ironman
every day has blood moon

[proper fossil]

Every day you change moon

And the goal is to survive each day and finish qith a completed quota i guess?

Or what happens when you get to artifice

[mystic coral]

💀 ok now i understand why you want me to fix nutcrackers respawn

[empty basin]

nah thats not why

because nutcrackers are just like

hold on

you can literally just do this https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/563759289387319302/1428740522452844585/2025-10-17_08-43-14_-_Trim.mp4?ex=68f5940d&is=68f4428d&hm=df1c92b6cfaccd6cc438cf197f91ea4bdb19ff9ba22ef2c63512ffade3cff8ab&

after that, you one tap them

infinite guns and money and candy and happiness

[mystic coral]

yeah thats what i thought

ill change that dw

[wild folio]

i like the bug where you jump over the nutcracker and it breaks their AI the most

[empty basin]

lame mode solution

[mystic coral]

wait this bug is still in the game?

[empty basin]

yes

[wild folio]

ye

[mystic coral]

lmao

[empty basin]

you can also still crouch cheese them btw

[wild folio]

sorta but u gotta know what you're doing

just crouching close wont work

[empty basin]

because they cant kick you as they are preparing to fire

so you intentionally shove yourself into their feet

when theyre going to fire

blast wont hit

[proper fossil]

Glad you decided to take on the challenge

[empty basin]

i dont do either of these things cause its boring

[proper fossil]

:3

[empty basin]

@mystic coral btw i suggested the blacklist idea because theres other enemies this can be considered "op" against

namely snare fleas and tulip snakes

old birds constantly killing dogs/giants/hawks is also crazy

[proper fossil]

That gotta be so fun ngl

A complete warzone

While you try to crawl your way into the ship

[empty basin]

me and a friend kept having it happen on exp

random dormant old bird

app gets pulled

profit

[proper fossil]

You just gotta be careful you dont get in its way hehe

Are you playing base ironman?? Or AH or with more mods

[empty basin]

just vanilla+

[proper fossil]

Like, do you have modded monsters? Or just reskins and QOL

[empty basin]

i have nothing else besides blood moon

[proper fossil]

I saw a hairy nutcracker 👀

[empty basin]

that is

a skin

[proper fossil]

Thats more than just blood moon!!!!

[empty basin]

https://tenor.com/view/martin-cabello-boop-banana-phone-bananas-captioned-gif-gif-22151606

[mystic coral]

hmmmm i see
Then maybe a solution is to instead make the blacklist a bit different, where monsters names put in here will still respawn but not spawn blood stones

[empty basin]

that

is actually perfect

but nutcrackers are still an issue

[mystic coral]

Nutcrackers i will deal with them personally

[empty basin]

butlers not so much because the price to pay is hornet swarms

woe bugs be upon ye

[proper fossil]

Or maybe cheaper blood stones the easier it is to kill

[empty basin]

no

[proper fossil]

If its too easy then it doesnt spawn any more

[empty basin]

dogs dying to old birds would be even more insane

and giants also

[proper fossil]

True

Arent the stones like extremeley cheap tho?

[empty basin]

afaik 10 - 19 value

[proper fossil]

Was testing a bit the other day and every stone was like 10 to 18

Yeah

[empty basin]

the lightning spawned ones are like x6

[proper fossil]

Is thst enough for a quota??? Xd

[proper fossil]

WHAT

Never saw that

[mystic coral]

x4 but yeah

[empty basin]

was just a guess :P

[mystic coral]

lmao ye

the lightning is very rare

and hard to locate

[empty basin]

ive seen it happen almost every day

[mystic coral]

That was a bonus event i added

[empty basin]

sometimes i dont see the lightning

but i see the remnant it left

[proper fossil]

I never saw anything!!!

:0

[empty basin]

this is only true if you arent outside

[proper fossil]

Maybe im blind

[empty basin]

cause you can hear where it struck and go that direction

[mystic coral]

we play differently lmao, me when i heard a lightning outside and im already outside and trying to find where it was, then after 10s im like ok no bye bye, im too scared of being spoted by monsters

[empty basin]

depends on what moon it is

if its any tier 2 probably not fucking with it

[mystic coral]

No it is rare

[empty basin]

rend would also be stupid

and embrion is death sentence

[mystic coral]

well technically the tier of the moon does not matter cause during blood moon the max number of monsters allowed on the moon is increased

[empty basin]

yes

but

technically

its more so when a monster is dead
power is open
spawn cycle can trigger as its dead
resurrection still happens

the power itself isnt increased

its just funky side effects

not that its a bad thing

[mystic coral]

ah yeah i guessed thats true

[proper fossil]

Imagine purple doing end of the world ironman xD

[mystic coral]

Esp on the next version of the event 💀

[proper fossil]

🥀

Whenever coderebirth updates its over

[mystic coral]

This will still work without CodeRebirth tho

[empty basin]

is this majora

[mystic coral]

it's all weathers (almost)

[proper fossil]

Well yeah hehe

[cunning shoal]

Blood moon natural selection spider warfare 👍

[empty basin]

ah i see

majora would make it not possible

[proper fossil]

But with every weather mod its the worst best combination hehe

[mystic coral]

of course thats the point

[proper fossil]

Every weather would make it not possible

[empty basin]

no

only majora

[proper fossil]

Tried it with godmode and still died

Purple

Snowfall and rainy is already death

[cunning shoal]

would the removal of the majora moon timer ever be a consideration in the config one day?

[mystic coral]

If its just that, disable it then go

[empty basin]

actually nvm heatwave

FUCKASS HEATWAVE

[proper fossil]

Yeah

[mystic coral]

lmao why

[proper fossil]

Heatwave + snowfall

[empty basin]

HEATWAVE IS AWFUL

ok

sorry

[proper fossil]

1 meter per year

[empty basin]

but like

[mystic coral]

hmmmm why?

[empty basin]

actually playing heatwave is torture

[cunning shoal]

just less clutter on the UI, more immersive

[empty basin]

movement is more important in lethal than people realize

and heatwave actively fucks you over

with only two ways to cool down

[mystic coral]

ahhh ok didnt understood that, yeah its possible

[cunning shoal]

wooo if youre up to doing it sometime

[mystic coral]

Thats why this weather is absolute peak

[empty basin]

yeah blood moon is so much better

i agree

[cunning shoal]

i had overestimated heatwave a lot and nerfed it into the ground lol, stamina regen destroyer

[mystic coral]

lmao i didnt said that but ok im not complaining

[empty basin]

i was being silly and interpreting what you said different

[proper fossil]

:0

I do like heatwave for immersive reasons

[mystic coral]

lmao, ye it was a joke of course heatwave is... something special

[proper fossil]

But gameplaywise i can understand it yeah

[empty basin]

i have had my experience with heatwave and i dont want to experience it again

[cunning shoal]

why am i seeing so much talk about heatwave all of a sudden as well i swear in other channels ive seen people mention it a lot in a short period of time

[proper fossil]

We are talking about what would make the end of the world impossible

Purple says heatwave and majora would make it impossible

[empty basin]

snowfall is counterable by shovel

which
youre gonna have anyways

[cunning shoal]

does the heatwave in the end of the world use the configured heatwave you set in settings of lethal elements?

[mystic coral]

yeah

[proper fossil]

Yeah but pair it with rainy and its a minefield

I got caught like 10 times in godmode

[empty basin]

on exp?

[proper fossil]

Artifice

[empty basin]

that is just genuinely bad luck

[cunning shoal]

It's okay. bcmer added weathers to custom events, so ill do the honours to make it happen ❤️

[proper fossil]

Not really because with all the monsters going around you dont have time to shovel the snow

[cunning shoal]

on a less related note

[empty basin]

well artifice is at quota 4

so is embrion

[mystic coral]

we can shovel the snow what??

[empty basin]

embrion is like

[cunning shoal]

I was setting up the config for betterfog, and with majoras moon + meteor showers, it was using my solar flare fog config despite it not being set to that

[empty basin]

basically unplayable without cruiser

or jetpack

[proper fossil]

Haha yeah, makes traversal more easy

[empty basin]

but cruiser is like
actually buyable

[proper fossil]

Oh yeah maybe that could make it more possible

But then you have solar flare

[empty basin]

what does it do to cruiser

[proper fossil]

Byebye battery

[empty basin]

i dont know this info

[proper fossil]

Idk if it affects cruiser battery

[mystic coral]

uhm, idk Better fog i cant say what went wrong

[empty basin]

the cruiser doesnt have a battery

[proper fossil]

Gas then

[empty basin]

are you suggesting id be trying to use a flashlight

[proper fossil]

Im saying jetpack

Jetpack battery is dead with 1 trip

[empty basin]

jetpack isnt possible

unless sale

cruiser kinda better anyways

[proper fossil]

Even with sale

[proper fossil]

Yeah maybe

[empty basin]

its only unusable on titan but that doesnt matter

[proper fossil]

Im tryna think what weather would affect cruiser

You also have blackout so yeah

[empty basin]

blackout is fine

wait

[proper fossil]

Also, do hallowed monsters attack you in cruiser

[empty basin]

doesnt blackout block monster spawns

[proper fossil]

Maybe that would be kinda hard

[proper fossil]

Nah

[empty basin]

guh???

[tulip grove]

duh???

[empty basin]

i remember never having them spawn

[proper fossil]

I had like 3 giants chasing me with blackout

[empty basin]

mustve been some conflict

[proper fossil]

Worst fear ever

[mystic coral]

let me inspect blackout code rq

[tulip grove]

it's not as scary as knowing that floating head is inside the facility and you don't know when to expect it

[proper fossil]

Also the hanging girl with forsaken...

[proper fossil]

Yeah

End of the world also adds that goofy goober

[tulip grove]

I'm not suprised

[empty basin]

she doesnt spawn indoors normally

i am of course, referring to default wesley stuff

[proper fossil]

Yeah

Its forsaken stuff

[mystic coral]

yep there is nothing modifying monsters

[tulip grove]

read my shit again

[proper fossil]

Read my pages again

[tulip grove]

I said KNOWING
with forsaken weather ofc

[empty basin]

i

read it right

youre implying she does spawn indoors

but she doesnt

[proper fossil]

She does

With forsaken

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/827084014836776961/837180917499166760/moscaaa.gif

[empty basin]

...she doesnt

i checked

[proper fossil]

SHE DOESSS

BRACKEN RESKIN

I SAW WITH MY OWN 3 EYES

[empty basin]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1103859389670117388/1429311768865411103/togif.gif

[proper fossil]

[magic niche]

Meow meow!

[wild folio]

nice kiszony

[tulip grove]

fuck

[proper fossil]

Fuck kiszony WOOOW

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1186515716124459088/1422751328211570738/image0.gif

[minor bloom]

yea shovel and the cruiser are two really quick ways to dig out paths for on foot travel

[mystic coral]

im literally the only one just jumping in the snow lol

[proper fossil]

Nah

I dont use the shovel

The one time i tried it i didnt notice it being that good, and also i almost never use shovel so hehe

I just make the paths manually by walking

[empty basin]

@minor bloom lets send him to my espira edit

[minor bloom]

JUMPING

you can get rid of the snow by just walking through it

you're just slowed down and stuff

[proper fossil]

Jumping is a bit faster me thinks

[proper fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-shoo-cat-shoo-biscuit-gif-8024642674144447563

[minor bloom]

i dont use the shovel either im not good at killing things no more

I dont have enough practice

[proper fossil]

I never was hehe

[minor bloom]

i used to be good at it but it's hard for me to keep up

[proper fossil]

My peak was killing a nutcracker out of luck

[empty basin]

@mystic coral ok so btw i looked back on some recordings

it seems the terrain effects are just broken as a whole

they are not randomized lol

it consistently is the same spots each time

every time i landed on assurance, the one in ship was there

[mystic coral]

Yeah thats expected

[proper fossil]

Whats randomized?

BloodMoon?

[mystic coral]

yes

[empty basin]

the terrain effects are not

[mystic coral]

What im saying is that i have a formula that spawn those effects in completely random spots but it's not random it's just that i have no idea where it will spawned them
But each time on each moon they will spawn in the same place, you just cant tell where unless you know from a previous play session

I could probably look at improving that

to make it trully random, maybe

[empty basin]

i am very eagle eyed in general and pay attention to small things

...although sometimes i question how things i notice, no one else did prior

[mystic coral]

i guessed lmao

well then ill look at randomizing this with the map seed so it's stays synced

[empty basin]

@mystic coral might wanna improve how these spawn

[mystic coral]

oh, didnt know this was possible, ill try to fix that

[empty basin]

just make them spawn at nearby AI nodes always

[mystic coral]

btw im planning the update some things (including all you reported) this week if possible

[mystic coral]

No, because in some situation an enemy could die in a place where there is no AI nodes and the stone will then spawn very far away at the nearest node

Im spawning the stones on the navmesh, but ill reduce the radius a bit

[empty basin]

??? why is there navmesh at the bottom of these pits

thanks zeekers roblox

[mystic coral]

idk

[proper fossil]

Tbh i think 10x end of the world might be the only thing making it worth going hehe

[mystic coral]

It's not just 10x the value, it's also 10x the amount so its still op lmao

[proper fossil]

Hell on moon, but you get a quota intantly

[proper fossil]

Wa

Ooooh

[mystic coral]

i edited the message oops

[proper fossil]

Xdd

Hmmm

I do think maybe testing it a bit on a mormal run would be the best play

[mystic coral]

yeah ill do that
Because it's at weight 1 currently so no one will ever land on this weather without editing the config lol

[proper fossil]

I'll try later today too hehe but im bad so idk

[proper fossil]

True

[mystic coral]

Or it will be a certified unlucky moment

[proper fossil]

But also there is this cool little mod called weather probe

So even if you get end of world, if you have that mod you'll prob change it hehe

So i think the weather should have an incentive to go in not just because of curiosity

[mystic coral]

What is that mod?

[proper fossil]

From LGU

Was part of it but then whitespike made it standalone

You can choose the weather you want if you pay a certain amount of credits

[mystic coral]

interesting

[proper fossil]

I use it mostly to balance and to not have bs on last day and just die because the game decided to do the worst possible weather combination hehe

[mystic coral]

lmao you just want to showcase your skill? ok ok

[empty basin]

im a professional clip farmer actually

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1339708340468711424/1412331659813982288/8mb.video-bcP-PLXUU9Yl.mp4?ex=68f72fdb&is=68f5de5b&hm=9f001e0a0af2d94b03495f29a984ccae85945db4dd76f6fca80d31d5380cc8ac&

[tulip grove]

https://tenor.com/view/people-who-be-desperate-for-attention-kamedwards-kameron-edwards-sigh-annoying-gif-15490938148885036745

[empty basin]

bro really thinks all i care about is this

[proper fossil]

[mystic coral]

dont botter, it's classic Kiszony stuff

[tulip grove]

[empty basin]

see guys i am so fucking good

im such a professional its unreal

[mystic coral]

*professional *

[tulip grove]

You Suck!

-# I love being certified hater

[cunning shoal]

Autoclicker

[empty basin]

whar

[cunning shoal]

vlick

[empty basin]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1103859389670117388/1429311768865411103/togif.gif

[empty basin]

sapsucker activities

[mystic coral]

💀 holy

[cunning shoal]

falling stars

Now all we need is every 7th day is a forced bloodmoon ! ❤️

get it.......

[tulip grove]

actually the concept of shooting star weather would be awesome
skybox being replaced with night starry sky, and stars that kills anything on it's path
occasionally pickable for scrap
-# but I think that would work better as a CR meteor shower weather idk

[mystic coral]

i dont get it😔

[wild folio]

first version of CR Meteor Shower was created using a shooting star weather as a proof of concept

it should be somewhere in this server... made by xilo, technically the first ever weather mod

[cunning shoal]

its okay.... im thinking of 7 days to die.....

[cunning shoal]

trivia

i like trivia

[wild folio]

lol

its in #1188298686560739389 somewhere

[tulip grove]

oh

[wild folio]

#1195805080654450749 message

ig nikki was the first to come up with it

[proper fossil]

Thats just meteor shower + wesley's night skybox

[tulip grove]

not exactly

[proper fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/nerd-radar-nerd-radar-nerd-emoji-goofy-gif-15206659345311799377

[minor bloom]

its the reason scrap can spawn there

[empty basin]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1103859389670117388/1429311768865411103/togif.gif

why though

[minor bloom]

this is true

[minor bloom]

i no know

[proper fossil]

I asked zeekers yesterday

He said so purple could clip farm

Idk what that means

[wild folio]

he just didnt clean up all pits, some pits like in locker room do have navmesh blockers

[mystic coral]

lmao ok we cant even send invites to server vc of the very same server

anyways i was saying pro gamer is playing Blood moon in vc

[proper fossil]

https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1207001561109241886

:3

[mystic coral]

Thats exactly what i wanted to tag but the server didnt wanted me to

[proper fossil]

I wanna join but im doing something else

[proper fossil]

Copy the link of it

[mystic coral]

Yea thats what i did

[proper fossil]

Wa

[mystic coral]

But i got temp ban by the bot

[proper fossil]

WHAT

[mystic coral]

for 5 minutes

[proper fossil]

Robyn!!!

[mystic coral]

But the ban lasted for like 2 min so idk something went wrong

ah ok i know what happened

i copied an invite link to the vc and not the link to the vc

Thats pretty much the same but ok discord

[restive vault]

Well well well

Naughty

[minor bloom]

world's worst automod PUNISHES user for simply SHARING link

unbelievable....!

[mystic coral]

LMAO, if thats really something that we can't do is there not a server option to avoid people from copying invite link in the first place??

[restive vault]

No

[mystic coral]

🗿 discord moment

[proper fossil]

Atomic atomic huh

[restive vault]

Anyway it was a discord invite link so.. you cant filter for specific servers

[proper fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-meme-cat-staring-cat-stare-stop-staring-at-me-please-gif-9315292369693569596

[mystic coral]

this should be an actual feature actually

[restive vault]

Yeah it should

Discord wont listen

[mystic coral]

[restive vault]

Instead just lay off 99% of its workers

[mystic coral]

I was watching lunxara's stream and got attacked by a 3min unskipable ad thats the worst feeling

[proper fossil]

classic

[queen flare]

Somehow they resist adblock

I pray youtube never figures out how they do it

[mystic coral]

same

[proper fossil]

youtube has tried

but there's always a way hehe

i personally use premium but mostly because of comfort

[mystic coral]

[proper fossil]

yeah i know...

im not proud

but i atleast use basically all its features

and its the family version so i have my entire family hooked up to it hehe

[empty basin]

@mystic coral i should mention before i forget again (i kept doing so for like 9 hours today)

when the sapsucker is killed by an earth leviathan, it still spawns a blood stone, because the sapsucker uniquely still plays its death animation
but its still classified as destroyed, so it doesnt get resurrected

this isnt really an issue

its just an interesting sequence of events

[mystic coral]

oh, well then thats a zeekers issue

[empty basin]

also fun fact if it does properly resurrect that would mean 3 more eggs would spawn

[minor bloom]

oh yummy

[empty basin]

i thought resurrected monsters dont open power when killed

i was, very unfortunately, incorrect

[lyric moss]

@mystic coral imagine the ultimate weather plus brutal. this is gonna be crazy

[mystic coral]

Thats already impossible to play if you have all modded weathers installed lmao so with Brutal I don't even want to think about it 💀 💀

[mystic coral]

How do you know that

[lyric moss]

thats the point muhahaha

[empty basin]

killed a thumper 3 times on exp

[empty basin]

theres also situations i just cant do anything about

[proper fossil]

sneaky turret

glad you are enjoying blood moon

https://tenor.com/view/dead-chat-dead-group-chat-dead-chat-xd-gif-11830707118005268792

[minor bloom]

blood moon is awesome

[empty basin]

bro

bro...

[wild folio]

oh that's pretty lucky, u can just grab the eggs and it cant get to u i believe

[empty basin]

no

i cant

[wild folio]

oh are the eggs unreachable?

[empty basin]

yes

[wild folio]

rip

[mystic coral]

Glad it's hard to play even for you

[empty basin]

got to march finally

after 45 attempts

died to bracken fighting nutcracker

[mystic coral]

When i resurrect a monster a use code from vanilla RoundManager class, this function will add the resurrected enemy to the SpawnedEnemies list and idk what zeekers is doing with that list but it's very possible that it's used to calculate the actual power level
So really, the only time when the power is open is between the kill and the resurrection, which is something that i wanted because it's fun

[mystic coral]

Ggs, but still a long way to go

[mystic coral]

lmao 🗿

[empty basin]

i love this weather

[mystic coral]

risk and reward perfect

[minor bloom]

is the mask slightly more yellow now?

[mystic coral]

uhhmmm what

[proper fossil]

What???

Zigzag when did you add scp mask????? :00000

[empty basin]

the mask

[proper fossil]

the mask

[minor bloom]

it's just what it looks like with the faceless moon setting

also I had a sick idea- what if there were skins for the majora moon that looked like the basegame planet prefabs 👁️ 👁️

ik you're busy ziggy but I think that would be kind of a banger skin personally

[dense canopy]

what about modded planet prefabs

||what if i want to send duckstroid-14 on a collision course with hyx or vice versa||

[mystic coral]

That is actually a very good idea

But idk how to get the planet prefabs

I mean from vanilla i guess it's possible, but for the modded ones it will create all sorts of issues
Or else the modded planet prefabs are just a simple material, if thats the case i can do that, but if not i can't

[mystic coral]

yeah, there was some people who suggested this as a reskin for the vanilla mode

[empty basin]

53 attempts
got to rend
died to coil-head because i didnt hear it whatsoever until it was right up at me

[queen flare]

A normal day on Experimentation

[proper fossil]

I suggested that :3

But i didnt know you already added it

Last time i tried vanilla majora it didnt have the mask

[minor bloom]

I like the current look for faceless the best, 't was just a suggestion really so dw!

[minor bloom]

I have the models, unless you mean grabbing the exact same planet prefab for the moon you're on at that time

[mystic coral]

oh yeah i know, i just wanted to explain why it was there lol

[minor bloom]

it wouldn't really make sense to grab the planet prefab for that anyway cuz like... you're on the moon, how is the moon on itself

[mystic coral]

but idk why it's yellow 🧐

[minor bloom]

yeah im not sure, I'll boot up again in a bit to see whats up w that

[mystic coral]

that was idk how much months ago

[mystic coral]

the mask is def white in my unity project so really i have no clue lmao

[minor bloom]

maybe it was the lighting?

mineshaft is oddly yellow sometimes

[mystic coral]

Well, im not sure
The question is, do planet prefabs just apply a material, and thus a texture, to an already existing model, or can it be a completely different model etc?

[minor bloom]

they can be entirely different models

but most do a texture swap

[mystic coral]

well then lol

ah ok

[minor bloom]

the spectrum of difference is like...

ok so take a look at assurance's planet prefab, then look at devastation's (from generic moons), then look at ducksteroid

assurance is just a texture swap, devastation is similar but has some model changes like a few extra moon around the big planet, and then dusksteroid is just a complete model swap

[proper fossil]

:0

[minor bloom]

(atleast from what people have said in ducksteroid's case ive never gone there)

[proper fossil]

Crrrazy

Must have been like the day after i stopped playing bc i didnt see it and played kinda recently

Or maybe it bugged itself and didnt change idk

[mystic coral]

lmao
Then i can def do something but i need to get these models at runtime and unfortunately the Majora Moon is made with a custom material/shader so i can't just swap out the material/model
Thats why i was asking for the texture cause that's the only thing i will be able to swap
But then if im really doing this, how do i get those planet prefabs at runtime in the first place

i have no idea where its from in the code

[wild folio]

SelectableLevel contains the planet prefabs

[mystic coral]

damn that was easy

[minor bloom]

LOL

[proper fossil]

Lets goo

How would it work tho? Would it be kinda like a random chance?

Or you can choose which one you want

[empty basin]

@mystic coral almost forgot something again

turns out the sapsucker just does not resurrect at all

probably zeekerss

and not you

[mystic coral]

i think a random chance is better

less configs is best

[proper fossil]

Maybe a blacklist or whitelist too

Overseer gotta be so fun

But idk if i want ducksteroid as majora xD

[mystic coral]

it will be pretty goofy with just the texture after all so no worries, and thats a bonus feature its not important so no configs, no blacklist etc, just pure goofiness lmao

[proper fossil]

Understood!!

[mystic coral]

I just tried it and it is true
But when this happens an error happens in the console about my mod so maybe it's a me problem ill try to see whats going on when i update the mod no worries

[proper fossil]

are the lightning shards extremely rare or am i blind?

ok i think i found one

[minor bloom]

it might be because sapsuckers always spawn at the start of the day ?

[proper fossil]

they have the same texture as the ones that you get by killing enemies so its hard to differentiate

[minor bloom]

don't wanna speculate too much but I do know they do that

[empty basin]

i swear they are not that rare as zig claims

i get one almost every day

[empty basin]

they do because of their independant spawn curve

its not that they have special code to prevent being spawned in again by other means

[proper fossil]

1

one

uno

[minor bloom]

that makes total sense then

[minor bloom]

I've never seen em and I've played like 7 bloodmoon rounds

[empty basin]

you may not see it

or even hear it

but you can know it happens

because they spawn blood stones worth 44 - 72 i believe

if you have found one that much, it was from one

[proper fossil]

got one that was 88, tho i have the multipliers on

[empty basin]

well thats not possible from a monster

so, yeah

[proper fossil]

true

[empty basin]

you have had it

[proper fossil]

compared with majora where every shard is like 70-100 and you get like 4 per day

idk

[mystic coral]

yeah it was meant to be close to worthless because you can generate an infinite amount

by being good at the game

[mystic coral]

ill see

[empty basin]

i got so much on the run to rend i was able to stabily afford a jetpack after Q2 lmao

sucks it was lost to bs audio jank

like i had 3k in term after i sold for Q2

fucking bonkers

that is like ~40% higher than average profit return for ironman runs

[mystic coral]

well as long as you have fun with it then all is good 😌

[spark ferry]

Well designed weather
Some of my players asked me to add it to my pack
Who could i not

i'll also add compatibility for my loading music thing with the new weather
not sure how i will do it for the "make your own weather" thing you're working on atm though, hmm
i think what imma do is upload the dll i have in my weather music mod as a separate thing any mod can depend on
Then people can just make their own sound replacements for their own weathers

[proper fossil]

Combined weathers usually use both sounds

So it will explode

[mystic coral]

i guess that could work, i doont really know how you could do that otherwise but one thing to consider is that these custom weathers are the same as combined and progressing weathers but with some more open fields to customize the name, and other things
I think your system will already work if it detects the weathers by their effects names and not by the weather name, but if it's by the weather names then i guess it will need a small rework ?

[spark ferry]

No
My mod replaces the Loadstone loading sound clip from the ship with different music depending on the weather
As of right now, when it detects combined weather, it picks randomly between the associated weathers, but i am just manually naming every one

since its all done through SoundAPI

[mystic coral]

ahhh ok i see lol this will be quite complicated indeed when my tool will be out

[spark ferry]

The weather name it tries to get is, i believe, whatever the name is shown on the terminal in Weather Registry

[SoundAPICondition("LethalCompany:weather:name")] 
public class WeatherNameCondition : Condition
{
    public string Value { get; internal set; }
    public override bool Evaluate(IContext context)
    {
        if (!StartOfRound.Instance) return false;
        if (!StartOfRound.Instance.currentLevel) return false;
        string weatherName = StartOfRound.Instance.currentLevel.currentWeather.ToString();
        return string.Equals(Value, weatherName, StringComparison.InvariantCultureIgnoreCase);
    }
}

[mystic coral]

Ok this makes sense yeah

[spark ferry]

So i think it would be compatible with custom weathers?

[mystic coral]

Is that your own code or a soundAPI function?

[spark ferry]

so long as the name matches

[spark ferry]

My own code that registers a new SoundAPI condition

I copied how SoundAPI gets the moon name as a reference for the weather name

[mystic coral]

Ok thats perfect then, you should be able to modify it and detect the specific weather effects if you want, this is done direclty by using Weather Registery as a soft dep

[spark ferry]

nice nice

[mystic coral]

The code you'll need to use is this

public static bool IsWeatherEffectPresent(string weatherName)
{
    var weatherType = new WeatherRegistry.WeatherNameResolvable(weatherName).WeatherType;
    for (int i = 0; i < WeatherRegistry.WeatherManager.CurrentEffectTypes.Count; i++)
    {
        if (WeatherRegistry.WeatherManager.CurrentEffectTypes[i] == weatherType)
        {
            return true;
        }
    }
    return false;
}

I think there is also other methods to do that? but this one should work, this will check if the weatherName parameter is an active effect of the current weather on the moon, so "rainy" will be detected if the weather is "Rainy" or "Rainy + Blood Moon", or "Cheese weather" which has a custom name but still spawns the rainy weather in the background

Actually, i hope this code works for when the moon is loading, this i havent tried

It will depend if those types are filled when in orbit

[spark ferry]

it should do?
i think?
hm

[mystic coral]

idk lol

@tight rose please

[tight rose]

what are you trying to get?

[mystic coral]

Zeta wants to know if a specific weather name is active on the current moon, this weather can then be part of a normal weather or a combined weather and still be checked correctly
I suggested the code above for that but idk if it will work because Zeta wants to run this during the moon loading before the ship has landed and so while players are still in orbit, will this work? And if not what can we do

[minor bloom]

https://medal.tv/games/lethal-company/clips/llKZTl4Q0NzDY24C8?invite=cr-MSx5WlAsMjYyMzg4OTQx&v=99

[tight rose]

oh jesus I would need to check that specific case

the first weather in progressing ones is set during landing, so after they would try to get it

[spark ferry]

i added the method you mentioned, i am just gonna mess around with it and see

[mystic coral]

Ok let me know

[mystic coral]

And what about combined ones?

[spark ferry]

ngl i kinda just ignored progressing weathers 💀
ig i should add support for them, i just couldnt be bothered because i dont use them personally
in my mind, the progressing weather sound should just be whatever the first weather is, as thats what you hear as you're landing n all, so as far as my own mod was concerned i wasnt too worried about it
But i guess writing a SoundAPI condition that checks what weathers are included should be doing it properly ye

[mystic coral]

The code i shared will def not work for progressing weather as it will only detect the first weather unfortunately, you'll need to do something else to get the progressing weathers but imo the first one is fine

The goal of the code is for you to have combined weathers detected without a need to check for the name cause the name can be anything and you don't know what weathers will run in the background

You can still check the name if you want i guess for specific ones
I know you have a check for The End of the World rn 🤫

But maybe add both checks? its up to you

and also mrov's magical code

[mystic coral]

oh boy oh boy lmao that was close 🗿

oh monty

there was no music during the crash sequence, please confirm it was because the music volume was 0 in the config?

[minor bloom]

yup!

I do that so the music doesn't get old

I was thinking of doing a soundAPI mod that replaces the music with some ambiance later on

[minor bloom]

i live on the edge muahahaha

[spark ferry]

Just tested, this worked for the combined weather, it detected Foggy

[spark ferry]

oh rip

[empty basin]

[mystic coral]

That is quite interesting yeah, and I know SoundAPI can effectively replace some modded sounds but you need to have a way to access them with bindings or sorts? Idk how you can get the bindings for Majora lmao

[mystic coral]

Nice nice
Btw for weathers with a space in the name it's better to have it all in one word
For example
majoramoon, solarflare, dustclouds etc
I know I needed that before but who knows if it's changed now

[mystic coral]

Lmao

[mystic coral]

Lmao he stole every stone

[tulip grove]

Mistook with eggs
How adorable

Also
The fact that you reached adamance

[empty basin]

ive been to rend twice now

both times died to stupid shit

[tulip grove]

[minor bloom]

it was just an idea and I don't rlly know how i'd do it, but I do want to eventually hehe

zeta just dropped something in that same ball park so I might try and use that sometime

[mystic coral]

ok then 😌

[spark ferry]

it would be rather easy if you put on the SoundAPI debugging thing
Anytime a sound is played, it will log it's source n all, including modded stuff
Ofc you then end up with a lot of log spam, so you'd need to search through it with a keyword like "Majora", and try to match the timestamp in the log to when something occurred

[minor bloom]

Chiikawa Fire

ill keep that in mind, thank you!

[mystic coral]

look at this massive beast that was just added to the End of the World, now you def can't survive that

[tulip grove]

[proper fossil]

Zigzag try not to make an extremely good looking weather challenge impossible

[mystic coral]

ooooo what moon is that

[hidden wing]

this shit goes hard holy moly

[empty basin]

utril

[mystic coral]

ooo yeah it's actually impossible to tell it is utril

[empty basin]

me when

pyntrus lotus

[proper fossil]

I kinda did notice it was utril

But didnt said anything out of fear of being wrong heheheudjdhr

[empty basin]

@mystic coral

Stack trace:
LegendWeathers.Weathers.BloodMoonManager+<StartAnimationThenResurrect>d__33.MoveNext () (at <b05e6372b196447ca22fe48c6429cf64>:IL_00F8)
UnityEngine.SetupCoroutine.InvokeMoveNext (System.Collections.IEnumerator enumerator, System.IntPtr returnValueAddress) (at <c39a522eee05469b8171a6cfeb646c59>:IL_0026)```

idk what this is

[mystic coral]

This is the error i was talking about last time when a Sapsucker is trying to respawn #1362461184468455424 message

[empty basin]

btw additionally i want to ask, just so i dont spread misinfo
i think the difficulty settings are
Easy: No Eclipsed spawn cycle
Normal: Regular Eclipsed spawn cycle
Hard: Eclipsed spawn cycle +1 additional monster per cycle

[mystic coral]

and ill try to fix that next time

[empty basin]

ok well thats weird because the monsters i was killing were resurrecting

[mystic coral]

that is correct

[empty basin]

ok cool

[mystic coral]

strange, ill inspect whats going on

Expect a very small update this week that will not change anything, then next week hopefully i can update everything that was reported

[mystic coral]

oh damn thats sooooo good 🥺 wtf

[proper fossil]

idk why but wesleys moons go so hard with some modded weathers

[tulip grove]

there's a charm in it

[minor bloom]

which moon is this?

that looks so fucking good fuckk

[empty basin]

lecaro

bozoros also has a larger one

but i didnt screenshot it

this angle works i guess

[proper fossil]

we need bozoros compat with blood moon

every light changes to red or smth

or maybe the ecplised feature for bloodmoon too

[empty basin]

catalyst

will not name this one, curious if anyone recognizes it

[wild folio]

Clearly a Tony moon

[proper fossil]

oxyde

[minor bloom]

omfg that looks amazing

[minor bloom]

is that spectate?

[empty basin]

you are winner

[minor bloom]

YAAAY

i wanna use spectate again

I just wish it was terrameshed

[empty basin]

the unbreakable trees:

[minor bloom]

fuck you're right

[empty basin]

whatever, go my unrelated bunker spider

[static cloak]

that's a huge spider

[mystic coral]

@empty basin so the lightning has an initial delay of 60s when the ship is landing after which it will try to spawn at 10% chance, and it will continue to do the same after that but with a time that is random between 50s and 70s
And i was wrong, i left the damage active for the lightning

[empty basin]

that isnt that rare lol

but i wouldnt change it tbh

average player would probably prefer it stays the same

for veterans the blood stone stuff is insane profit potential

i got 3.5k after adamance one of the times i got past it

but you shouldnt alter things just based on veteran players

[mystic coral]

lmao i guess yes but its more rare than a stormy vanilla lightning

[mystic coral]

yes, you are right

For comparison Majora Moon has an initial delay of 60s then a delay between 50s and 60s, each time after this timer is finished it will try to spawn a Moon Tear at 40% chance (or 20% if the Majora timer has started)
And during the special Moon Tear Shower event (which is 1% chance of happening each time there is a Majora Moon), the timer is bstill 60s initially then between 3s and 6s at a chance of 80%, it will try to spawn using this chance at a maximum of 8 times then it will go back to the normal mode, marking the end of the tears shower

[empty basin]

i havent been to vow in like 8 attempts i love this game 💔

[tulip grove]

so that's how lunarlights moon feels at 1 PM on none weather

[mystic coral]

lmao

[proper fossil]

Tbh i was thinking on increasing lightning chance

Tho i think bloodmoon is a weather thats designed more towards veterans either way

It rewards you only if you can kill multiple enemies multiple times

[empty basin]

@mystic coral dine

[proper fossil]

Or if you get lucky and something else kills you

[empty basin]

im not even mad im just distraught cause like

what the genuine fuck

why did it pathfind into the ship

there is no AI nodes in ship

like

what

[proper fossil]

It probably heard you before ig

[empty basin]

does it look like it did bro

its walking without any aggro calmly

wdym

[normal kayak]

WHAT

[proper fossil]

They dont have the animation all the way iirc

[empty basin]

cheese
my friend
it was not alerted

in any sense of the word

in any sense of how their AI works

[proper fossil]

Animation can end before they get to the node i think

Im

well i guess

[empty basin]

ok so
the standard AI search routine makes monsters generally go in a back and forth pattern around the map

[proper fossil]

I cant really say you are wrong 😔

[empty basin]

this dog

has been around the ship

the entire fucking game

if there was even an AI node in the ship

[proper fossil]

I know

!!

[empty basin]

it wouldve already been marked as checked

[proper fossil]

I watched alterego videos hehehejeiyehe

But the ship doesnt have ai nodes

Only possible way is if it heard something inside

That or a bug

[empty basin]

it didnt though
it clearly did not

[proper fossil]

Or secret feature that adds a node to the ship

[empty basin]

it isnt alerted, it was just walking by

a dog alerted has its head raised

when walking

[proper fossil]

Thats what i mean, i dont remember that they do that head raised all the way through

If the node is far enough, that animation ends before they get to the node

[empty basin]

when they stand still, they dont have their head raised
and in the case of the ship door blocking them from reaching the noise to investigate the area, they do temporarily keep their head down until the door opens again

but for one, the dog wasnt even stuck at the door, it was moving

[proper fossil]

I could be completely wrong but im like 90% i've seen that happen

[empty basin]

and they raise their head again very fast

[proper fossil]

Weird then

Ghost in the code hehe

[mystic coral]

lol

[mystic coral]

it is made for good gamers yes
But i can assure you i am not a good gamer myself but i still enjoy it cause i play for fun

[proper fossil]

True

If i go there i mostly go for the vibes and to see how much time i can survive

[empty basin]

less experienced players will laugh constantly from it probably

[proper fossil]

It is kinda nice to have some kind of reward tho

Already makes it more appealing than any vanilla weather

Its just that the reward is only good for great players, or extremely lucky fellas

Because even if you manage to kill something, the blood stone is not worth it in the slightest

So it kinda rewards people who are more consistent at killing enemies, can do that multiple times and can also go back and forth without that many issues, since even a full blood stone inv is less than a lamp

[mystic coral]

well, this wasnt made for it to be easy

People should have voted something else if this was the case

[proper fossil]

Heheehehehehhe

I mean like, its fine as it is, no need to buff it even more

I personally would nerf it a bit, but im not the target audience gameplaywise so it doesnt really make that much sense

And also yeah blood moon is so cool i loves it im glad one of my picks was chosen hehehehe

Im still waiting for earthquake tho 👀 hehe joke

[mystic coral]

lmao

well in the short term i want to add a special event for the blood moon, if i cant do it then ill skip it and make the next weather instead

but as my job will start soon, this will take a lot of time

[empty basin]

oh should i wait for this before more attempts

[mystic coral]

na

continue on your attempts

im not even sure if i will do it, it will depend on a lot of factors

[minor bloom]

didn't the bloodmoon effects spawn on the ship on dine? if so wouldn't that man there's AI nodes inside the ship fsr

[empty basin]

they do on assurance

but there isnt an ai node directly inside ship

[minor bloom]

what about under?

[empty basin]

no

as far as i can tell how zigzag made it work is choosing a specific spot in a radius around AI nodes

[minor bloom]

Never change it I love Bloodmoon

[minor bloom]

makes sense

[mystic coral]

yes

[minor bloom]

https://medal.tv/games/lethal-company/clips/lmBuCg2INNJVXYB-y

[mystic coral]

lmao

😂 i love clips when people are getting their hopes crushed like that

[minor bloom]

i was greeding so hard

I coulda gotten a sapsucker egg tho

so maybe i wasnt so greedy

[mystic coral]

sad

[empty basin]

you actually wouldve made it if they didnt pull lever early

[minor bloom]

oh my god

im gonna fucking KILL HIIIM

[proper fossil]

not sure, i think the ship was already leaving before the lever

pretty sure it starts leaving when the second message appears

the terrible fate one

[mystic coral]

well, they actually pulled the lever 0.3 seconds before the automatic lever pulling

[proper fossil]

:0

[mystic coral]

btw @empty basin im working on the update with all things you reported so, first, thank you again 🙌
And second i think i found a way to nerf the nutcracker heres my idea
When the blood moon is active nutcrackers that dies will never spawn shells
And for the shotgun, the very first nutcracker killed (globally) during the weather will have the gun grabbabled as usual but also it will be fully charged no matter how many shots there was left in there
But every other subsequent nutcrackers killed after this first one will have their gun despawned before you can grab it
what do you think?

[empty basin]

theres no reason to make them not drop shells

as i said before

[mystic coral]

the reason is to avoid a situation where you can kill every nutcracker indefinitely

Imagine you already have a shotgun, then you kill the nutcracker, shells will spawn, which allows you to reload the gun and to kill the next one

and same thing for the next one, and so on

[empty basin]

but if you dont get the gun then it isnt an issue

youre just instantly removing the resurrected nutcracker

and its not like there isnt a price to pay for doing this constantly

[mystic coral]

The goal is still to reward the player just like in the vanilla game, i dont want to remove the gun completely because it's just like if i was to remove a part of the enemy behavior

With my idea you can have 1 shotgun per blood moon where you kill a nutcracker, and this shotgun will have 2 shells and thats it, no more

[tidal panther]

@mystic coral Can you fix Blood Moon applying to interiors? I noticed Rubber Rooms becomes laggy from it nuking it's fog lol

[mystic coral]

Ill see what i can do, but i cant call that a "fix"

[proper fossil]

Maybe 2 shotgun instead?

[mystic coral]

so after analyzing this place, it seems there is no navmesh on the bottom
But there is navmesh right here and i tested droping some items here
Big items are fine
But small items like dust pan, easter egg, clown horn and so yeah also the blood stone will go through the bar, and i assume its the same for the navmesh on the wall

[mystic coral]

idk, i think 1 is good enough

[proper fossil]

Oki

[empty basin]

im fine with them not redropping the gun

i just dont really get shells

but whatever ig

[mystic coral]

and about that, i just tested it and yeah it seems the sapsucker is the only enemy that does that
it's like an hybrid between a classic death and a despawn death
it will die normally first, playing its death animation, then it will despawn itself ??? lmao
For comparison, even the bracken who have a death animation which looks like its being despawned, does not actually despawn, it's just visuals, so yeah thats a thing🗿

[mystic coral]

🗿

[minor bloom]

oh yea dw I didn't have it happen since

most of the time it's pitch black due to darkness in the mineshaft cave tiles

that's the only time ive seen it look strange since the time it was yellow

[mystic coral]

oh ok then

just a light issue

[spark ferry]

I am still on v72 using 2.0.0 of LegendWeathers, so idk if its been fixed since, but the Blood Moon config for "Enemy resurrection wait time" doesn't seem to work
Set it to 30, the max, and they still resurrrect within 10 seconds
If you need a log n all that lmk and i can reproduce it on a smaller profile

Does the Difficulty config setting have anything to do with it?

[empty basin]

it does work in v73

[static cloak]

yes

[mystic coral]

Hm that is strange because I never changed that config

[empty basin]

didnt die just funny

[spark ferry]

I wonder if its just setting it to 30s that messes it up then, i might try 29 or something

[empty basin]

@mystic coral could you apply your nutcracker thing to the haunted harpist also by chance

(and the other two ghosts from it)

[mystic coral]

they also respawn with their gun?
I mean if this is those with instruments there is no infinity loop by killing an resurrect as much as you can kill them so i dont think it's needed
But the one ghost with the gun yeah ill do that

[empty basin]

the instruments are infinitely regenerated

and by default are worth a fuck ton of money

for a monster easy to kill by default also

they are rare, but still

[mystic coral]

ah ok, then ill reduce the value by force

[mystic coral]

holy these ghosts code is pretty crazy

[proper fossil]

reference??

[empty basin]

as in

its bad

or

dont wanna shame figo since he works so hard on so many things

[mystic coral]

neither of those
Their AI is separated in 2 different files so it makes the process of finding what part i need to patch a bit harder

I thought droping their gun/instruments was going to be similar to nutcracker, but no

Now i just found the specific function so it's clean

[wild folio]

Yeah Figo writes most of the code like that, again not saying it's bad but it's definitely a new take I don't see much done here, it's taking the proper approach per unity standards iirc tbh

[mystic coral]

hmhm it was a bit difficult to understand at first but in the end it was very easy to patch so its fine

[mystic coral]

Ok so i tried looking into that and heres what i found

• these kind of fogs are called Local volumetric fog, and im technically not nuking any of that
• the volume of the Blood Moon is just being rendered on top of it and so you can't see it
• the only way for me to ""fix"" that is to turn off the override for the volumetric fog of the Blood Moon, this will make these local fog visible again but at the cost of having strange place where these fogs will try to blend with the weather's fog + all the interior will be darker than usual
  this situation is explained in the doc i wrote in the page 4, thats the exact same problem
  What i can do however is maybe to turn off this override when the player is inside, while having the same unchanged when the player is outside? This will improve the situation that i describe in the doc but the interior visual will, again, still be darker than usual among misc other issues that you'll see for yourself, so everything coming together (lol) is not possible

So heres what i propose
In the next update nothing concerning that will be changed but heres a beta, in this dll the override is turned off and everyone that wants to test if this looks good or not are able to just grab it and report if they like it or not (including you if possible)
To test better, grab imperium and go to experimentation, then find a Steam valve and let it pop (or make it pop with imperium) and see if you like what you see
And also still in the dungeon, see how the overall red volume is behaving when you are close to light sources, you'll see stuff that i didnt want to have such as the volumetric fog affecting lights
With this one, the outside of some moons will look very bad for example experimentation but more importantly rend and dine, you will see the sky flashing back and forth in luminosity du to the local vanilla fog trying to blend in, just like i explained in the doc
I really cant explain better besides making a video, but imo thats not worth my time

And again sorry for this other big boy of a text, im trying to explain this the best i can but it's really hard to explain it without entering too much in the technical stuff

[wild folio]

I'm disappointed, I wanted another 20 page Google document

[tidal panther]

lolol

[wild folio]

And I'd actually read it unlike some people above me

[tidal panther]

Speaking of that I'm surprised that doc isn't a pinned message

[hard mica]

not like people are asking the question that often

so ig it aint that necessary

[tidal panther]

True I only brought it up that one day cus a couple of people we were playing with had asked me why it was nuking fog and I was like "Idk ask Zigzag" lol I at least think with Blood Moon it doesn't look bad tbh, in contrast it's weird when getting Majora Moon cus every moon becomes this bright pinkish color with no fog, the much darker red visuals of Blood Moon contrast way better and make the fog removal less drastic

But you can just not use Majora Moon if you dislike it so it's fine

[hard mica]

it is a different weather

so it's gonna have different vibes

[tidal panther]

I did check out the doc finally and some of the Rend hybrids did look kinda cool but I see why you dislike it as well lol, the main thing I just want is to somehow avoid interiors getting affected during the weather since for some reason Rubber Rooms became very laggy when it's fog was removed which should theoretically be possible. I thought it was possible to seperate Interiors from being affected but I could be wrong

[hard mica]

plus a lack of thick fog on Majora moon makes it a lot better because I don't wanna be running through silent hill fog when the moon is about to crash into the map

[tidal panther]

I get your points, for some reason every moon becoming that pinkish lifeless color just didn't hit right for me

[hard mica]

lifeless is a pretty pissy word to describe it as

i'd say more "empty"

[tidal panther]

I think of how it affected Summit

Yeah Empty is prolly better

I just remember when we had it on Summit Summit looked really bad

😂

I don't think Blood Moon would ruin Summit though in contrast cus it's visual style is much more engrained

and the deep red contrasts the fog removal well

[hard mica]

welp

that's how it be

not much to change there

[tidal panther]

Yeah

[hard mica]

majora moon is still one of the coolest weathers i've seen

[tidal panther]

Oh yeah 100% it's cool

I never said it wasn't, our group loved getting it when we played with it but we all just got burn out with how it affected certain moon's visuals but I'm not gonna blame Zig Zag here since he had a specific style in mind

At some point I might bring it back and just blacklist a ton of moons, I just don't feel like trying to sort out every moon it won't work with

lol

[hard mica]

i mean there's also just dealing with it and enjoying the weather

[tidal panther]

That isn't gonna stop some people's complaints ☠️

[hard mica]

who's complaining?

[tidal panther]

When's the last time you played in one of my lobbies? I remember quite a few people complaining about the fog thing with Majora Moon when we had it, but they liked the gameplay of it lol

[hard mica]

idk i dont remember

[tidal panther]

Not gonna try and think of who all did it cus it's been a while

lol

[mystic coral]

Yeah i understand that
It was possible with majora because the volume does not affect the interior, which is different from Blood Moon
The beta i send is not a complete re-enable of fog but it's kind of an hybrid, just play inside and try to spot the difference there is quite a few

[mystic coral]

Well idk what to say more
Blood Moon was made by design but Majora it was by obligation for the effect over time
Yeah i guess blacklist every moon is very annoying to do but im sorry you'll have to do that if you want your game to be just like you want

[tidal panther]

Yeah lol, at least for Blood Moon it looks good on 99% of moons

I think it's primarily the Tundra ones I'd need to blacklist

[minor bloom]

I personally think majora makes a majority of moons look great, especially snowy moons

[queen flare]

There's something eerie about seeing fog heavy moons without it that I really enjoy

Especially Rend

It makes it fall into the uncanny valley in a cool way

[mystic coral]

and its even better when there is combined weathers active imo

-# for those specific 🤓 actually moment wondering why the snow is not dark as it's supposed to be more dark now in v73, thats because this is not in v73

[proper fossil]

Well its not supposed to be more dark hehe, but it is 😔

[mystic coral]

🥺 yeah

[tidal panther]

Yoooo I really love this though lol

[mystic coral]

yeah? well then sad because the snow is not that white in v73 😔

[tidal panther]

I know

I hope pacoito figures it out

[mystic coral]

same

[proper fossil]

same

[wild folio]

Not same

[tidal panther]

[proper fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/people-who-be-desperate-for-attention-kamedwards-kameron-edwards-sigh-annoying-gif-15490938148885036745

[cunning shoal]

https://tenor.com/view/eye-roll-duh-whatever-dwayne-johnson-the-rock-gif-17895415

[mystic coral]

its time, here we go

fuck i dont have nitro i cant post the changelog

ok, here is an image instead

[proper fossil]

Yippee!!!!

Zigzag the cook

[mystic coral]

everything (except fog related stuff) should now be updated/fixed/added etc

there is some things that will make monty very happy also

[limber tulip]

mindin my own business in a neon lit night on Halation, when a giant fucking carnival moon decides it's time to end the world

[mystic coral]

lol and yeah i hope it works with modded moons since i havent tested it (but it should work)

but it will be just the texture

[tulip grove]

it would be funny to force-add the cap to blood stones spawning after killing to prevent cheesing them

[mystic coral]

lmao

[minor bloom]

amazing changes man

you're the fucking GOAT

[mystic coral]

🙌

[last swan]

Don't know if this is known, or if it was just a me thing, but there's an incompat between ghost codes & remnants.

can't get past starting screen

aaaaand this is legend weathers AAAGAH

luv this mod

[empty basin]

fail

[mystic coral]

Lmao

[gleaming patio]

I joined this server purely because

the blood moon in this mod is

so fucking cool

i LOVE how it references the terraria and zelda ambiences and even the visual effects

such a SICK moon it's my favorite ever

the otherss are cool too

[mystic coral]

I never played terraria so what kind of reference are you speaking about?

Glad you like it tho !

😊

[empty basin]

terraria has a blood moon event that has a 1/9 chance to happen every night i think

except during new moons

[mystic coral]

and what happens

[empty basin]

the ambience is sort of similar

well

a lot of monsters spawn

they dont resurrect

it just increases the spawnrate of monsters

[mystic coral]

ah ok, well i guess that counts

[empty basin]

and some stuff that cant spawn any other time also does

[gleaming patio]

yeah some of the ambience sounds a LOT like the terraria ones so i thought it was a reference

[mystic coral]

lmao it was not 😂 i took some sfx from Zelda games and modified everything to make it sound a bit different

and the visuals i wanted something red/pink because it's stylish 🙌

[gleaming patio]

damn

well it's still really cool

though you should totally add some terraria references that would be cool

[empty basin]

add granny

[proper fossil]

add pruple as a wather please thanks

[minor bloom]

increased spawns, red ambiance, red moon, bloody monsters

[mystic coral]

Granny?

What

[tulip grove]

his mom

https://tenor.com/view/granny-dance-gif-11638418557026172594

[mystic coral]

Yeah lol OK, it's just eclipsed but red

[tulip grove]

I knew it

but I just couldn't prove it

[mystic coral]

You wanted to prove that terraria blood moon is eclipsed but red?

🧐

[mystic coral]

The mom to who??

[tulip grove]

to this awful #1 earth lev hater

[mystic coral]

Lmao

[modern badge]

yknow speaking of terraria and modding

if you know Calamity: Wrath of the Gods, there's an ||event that happens post-moon lord that one of the bosses obscures the sun, causing the world to plunge into an eternal winter||

wait wrong thread..

[gleaming patio]

Make it more original.....

I love it too much for it to be just a reskin

[empty basin]

in the context of terraria

the blood moon is totally different from eclipsed

mechanically they are very similar

but both games play in such a specific way that theyre very different

and i never really considered eclipsed as just "this is like blood moon in terraria"

its a bad comparison to just instantly stick to that

[proper fossil]

one is a blood moon

the other one is an eclipse

🥀

[mystic coral]

what are you talking about? the event in terraria or my mod

[mystic coral]

eeeeeeeeeeeeeyyy i dont know the game remember

[gleaming patio]

in your mod

[empty basin]

i think its fine as it is and they dont need to change anything

[gleaming patio]

yeah thats fair

[mystic coral]

uh? The Blood Moon in my mod is not an eclipsed reskin

i was speaking about terraria

[gleaming patio]

oh i

didnt know

damn

sorry about that

[mystic coral]

no worries

[empty basin]

good visuals

i guess

[empty basin]

mfw

but yes

the blood moon does more than just "its eclipsed"

actually you can turn off the eclipsed spawn cycle in the config

the weather has 3 difficulty settings
easy does what i just said
normal has the moons regular eclipsed spawn cycle
and hard just adds one monster to the cycle

what it additionally does is make monsters resurrect after being killed

the default time is 10 seconds

and any killed monster (note: not destroyed) will make a blood stone spawn somewhere nearby the corpse