V.E. Scanvan Thread! (and any other of my vehicles)

[humble geyser]

I feel like it's getting closer to a point where I could think about uploading it to Thunderstore, but it still requires attention in some areas and there's still some stuff I'd like to add haha

[thorny sapphire]

Ok

Will you ever add PLANE

Or BOAT

Or other terrain vehicles in general

[humble geyser]

I think a plane or boat is a little bit out of the scope of what I want to do haha, plus:
No maps are designed for boat usage
No maps are designed for plane usage, though this does seem a little more feasible than a boat, I have no idea where I'd start with trying to code a plane
They'd also be far more impractical than something like my truck haha

As for 'other terrain vehicles' could you list some examples? I'm curious what'cha thinking of

[gentle sable]

not if i do something about it...

-# as in i could make moons for these vehicles

-# no guarantee if i can pull it off though

[humble geyser]

I'm also just not really interested in coding stuff like boats or plane, they're just out of my scope and the scope of my mod haha, they're interesting ideas though

But they need some framework built around them, like alot of the "Cruiser moons" for the CC, but also work for other vehicles

[regal bone]

I feel like a helicopter would be far more practical than a plane for transport on most moons. Maybe if it was a small heli with minimal storage space that took weight into account.. Still probably not in scope for this mod

Scandal is very brave for making custom cars though

[humble geyser]

It's something I wanted to do day 1 the Cruiser came out, very few people have tried it which is unfortunate but somewhat understandable. right now I'm only aware of one other person doing a custom vehicle and it's a big 4 door Pickup called the Hauler (iirc?)

[regal bone]

Oooh I kinda wanna go find that thread. I hope the two mods are compatible once they get released

Anything to do with driving in LC is my jam

[humble geyser]

they should be since they both just use LLL's extended vehicles

although i did tell him to add some checks to make sure the vehicles animations he's replacing is his own since he didn't appear to be using his own methods for putting players in cars

[thorny sapphire]

Although unreleased, liquidation:

[humble geyser]

god knows when that'll arrive haha

and that might require a Submarine more than anything

[regal bone]

Do we even know ANYTHING about what that moon will look like?

[humble geyser]

nope, other than its short description

[slim quail]

there will be much liquid

[regal bone]

The cruiser, modified to be airtight:

[humble geyser]

James Bond Lotus Esprit style :)

[slim quail]

bro

the lotus esprit submarine

i had it in forza horizon 4 lmaooo

[humble geyser]

Exactly what I was thinking

[slim quail]

this thing is so funny

from what i remember it wasn't too bad

but it rolled way too much

cus the wheels are sucked into the body

there's actually someone on my street who owns a white S4 esprit

though ive never seen them drive it

[humble geyser]

Probably broken like every single Lotus known to man haha

[slim quail]

unfortunately true

[humble geyser]

Lots of trouble usually serious :)

[slim quail]

better than having a land rover at least

at least lotuses are pretty

[humble geyser]

Very true!

[slim quail]

idk

my favorite of the british brands was always TVR

such an unusual brand identity with them

[humble geyser]

Austin Cars :)

[slim quail]

austins are pretty cool

[humble geyser]

I love the Montego wagons

[slim quail]

i'd probably like MG more if they weren't just making econoboxes now

[humble geyser]

Apart from the fact they all rotted away

MGs were pretty cool!

[slim quail]

mmm yup

which year were these

[humble geyser]

Mid 2000s

Early-mid 2000s

[slim quail]

makes sense

holden did something similar with the monaro in this timeframe

not a wagon ofc but the styling

[humble geyser]

The MG/Rover reminds me of an X-Type wagon sort of

With the quad round lights

[slim quail]

oh yeah

[humble geyser]

Also a beautiful car but, horribly unreliable

[slim quail]

jags are so cool, sucks that they break down so much

i'm kinda hoping whatever they're doing with their new marketing just blows over

[humble geyser]

You talking about that shitty air-conditioning looking thing? and the rebrand they tried to do?

I thought they went back on that

[slim quail]

yea

i thought so too but idk where i saw it

[humble geyser]

It's just awful haha

[slim quail]

from what i remember, the person who made it is often brought on to make stuff that catches peoples eyes, and then their work is discarded

no more than just clickbait basically

[humble geyser]

I see

[slim quail]

it makes sense i guess

the videos they put out would make you think jaguar is a fashion brand

oh no i just looked it up

[humble geyser]

This?

[slim quail]

they fired the entire ad agency

[humble geyser]

Ah lmao

[slim quail]

cus it backfired on them so hard

[slim quail]

yea kinda

rip holden btw

gm couldn't keep them going i guess

[humble geyser]

GM couldn't even stay afloat during that time

They had to be bailed out

And they axed off alot of brands

[slim quail]

they should try making good cars

i'm sure that would help

[humble geyser]

GM ≠ good cars

[slim quail]

like if there's any study you want to make on planned obsolescence, look no further than GM

they're expensive, inefficient, brutes of vehicles that appeal to people with no concept of maintenance

cus when something goes bad most people just replace them anyway

[humble geyser]

They keep em till the warranty expires

And that's usually when the car starts having issues

[slim quail]

yup

[humble geyser]

But because it's GM, it usually fails before the warranty expires

Because, y'know, GM

[slim quail]

like i wanna believe in them

especially cadillac

because it seems like they're trying to regain some of their former glory

but as long as cadillac is attached to gm, they're not gonna get far

[humble geyser]

Unfortunately expensive, inefficient, brutes of vehicles are the ones that sell in the US, bad and outdated regulations can be partly to blame here

[slim quail]

primary target of a lot of car people here is to close the light truck loophole

which might lead to a bit of downsizing if these vehicles are forced to contend with the same regs as passenger cars

though there's a lot of people that think deregulating emissions standards in general will solve the problem

which i don't think will be true

if emissions in general gets deregulated, cars are just gonna get bigger and more inefficient, reliability probably won't change, price will only go up, etc

[humble geyser]

OOPS

wrong emoji

[slim quail]

lmao

[humble geyser]

mb!!!!!

[slim quail]

most people don't seem to realize car companies don't provide small economic options because they want to

they do it because they have to

[humble geyser]

Pretty much

[slim quail]

if there were no regulations they'd only sell the biggest and bestest vehicles for the highest price

especially because our government protects them from having too much competition

because they know, if the asian brands were allowed to do what they want over here, on the same terms as americans, the americans would be swept away

[languid valley]

Hai Scandal I followed you here

[humble geyser]

I saw you typing, so I figured :)

[languid valley]

Lemme just remove that thing from the media section. Now that I know this is a thing.

https://youtu.be/wdoCNE5fNvo?si=KmTQWIDbkv59g_ix

[humble geyser]

Truly a masterpiece I've created

[languid valley]

Anyways. Hello! I’m not a modder myself but I like testing out stuff.

[thorny sapphire]

I will tester as well

[languid valley]

Please do it’s very fun :D

I love all the little details that go into Scandal’s vehicle, and REALLY vibe with the EVA.

[marble robin]

goofy ah cruiser

[humble geyser]

I'm going to see if I can figure out why this is happening

[humble geyser]

i found the issue (?), it's the physics colliders (?)

as to why, i 'unno

surely it couldn't be the wipers physics pusher

yeah i have zero clue

[humble geyser]

ahh, it could be the physic material

[humble geyser]

yeah, i set a bunch of stuff to medium friction (no bounce) and it seems alot more stable now

it's not freaking out after rolling over

[humble geyser]

i feel pretty confident saying it's because stuff like the physics colliders/box colliders are set to the low friction physic material

i feel like it may of been intentional on Zeekers part to make the car bounce in the event of a fast collision, but it does cause issues like it bouncing around after trying to push it over

setting it to medium-friction pretty much eliminated all the bounce

[static horizon]

heeell yeah

[humble geyser]

hmmmmmmm

[humble geyser]

the animations are a little rough since i'm not an animator, also ignore the key rotation when it's in the ignition since that's a little broken lol. this was also some good practice animating the player

still got the shifting animation to do too

but that should be relatively easy

[thorny sapphire]

It on the right? The wheel i mean… just like home in australia

[humble geyser]

Mhm! Right-Hand-Drive Cruiser

Made out of sheer boredom

[thorny sapphire]

Wait so the previous one is done then?

If u started another rone

[humble geyser]

I've had this one for a little while but haven't showed it off much because this one isn't as interesting, this Cruiser model had one goal and it was:

Be as authentic to vanilla as possible
While fixing all the small model and other issues

It's also a recreation of the post-release V55 car, with some minor tweaks, even got the original service manual photos that didn't have wee-kill written crudely on them haha

[humble geyser]

Nope haha

I just randomly chose this one to do it on

I could very easily transfer alot of this RHD stuff over to my other one though

I guess this is also some good practice for animating, and can be put to good use when I start working on the car (Saab) again

[humble geyser]

Alright, I'm hopefully done with the "Pull gearstick" and "Hand near/on gearstick" animations haha, took a bit of playing around, getting the left arm to bend in natural ways was a bit annoying

I think the last thing left to do is to just code in the random chance and save it to the save file

Oh, and verify that it's working in Multiplayer, haha

Ehh, that's not right

[humble geyser]

Alright, I've hopefully fixed the arms sometimes becoming dislocated, what a pain haha

Just hope this won't fuck up any other animations and whatnot

Since I apply rotations to stuff like the left shoulder, mainly that I'm worried about

[humble geyser]

I was also thinking that, for the car, I might just end up replacing the player animator entirely, as it would allow me to actually add new animations for things (i.e. pulling a handbrake), there's only so many default anims I can override haha

[thorny sapphire]

Keep it

As a rare chance

Nobody will notice if its rare

[humble geyser]

What

It's literally just a bugged shoulder rotation

I'm not keeping it in

I've already fixed it anyways

I'm not going to unfix it to "keep it as a rare chance"

[thorny sapphire]

?

The text?

“Turn grition”

[humble geyser]

i didn't even notice the i was missing

lmao

i honestly thought you were talking about the shoulder rotation

the i is definitely there it's just black for some reason

[humble geyser]

Infact it's probably something with the resolution of the game in editor

[arctic iris]

super late to this, but BIKES with SIDECARTS

[humble geyser]

It's certainly an interesting idea and I think it would be fitting and fun, but I think I'll leave stuff like bikes to someone else to do haha

[arctic iris]

graaah okay

[humble geyser]

Although I wonder if you could take the Cruisers uprighting code and use it for a bike 🤔

I've just never played around with bikes/bike physics before that's all haha

And I'm more interested in actual cars

[arctic iris]

maaaybe. Have wanted to try doing it myself for a while but I do not have time.

yeaaah that's fair

[humble geyser]

A bike would probably be alot easier than a car icl

Aside from the physics side of it

[arctic iris]

my vision of what it'd be like would have the vehicle very minimal and almost militaristic

[humble geyser]

I believe aside from some general animation polish, I'm pretty much done with this right hand drive gimmick Cruiser

[arctic iris]

ooh delectable

I'm gonna run, want to stay here and be autistic but am packing for a flight

[humble geyser]

Fair enough haha, enjoy your flight!

[humble geyser]

sigh

anyways i've implemented a cooldown on the seats and exit triggers as exiting/entering too quick would break animations

hopefully that cooldown fixes that issue permanently, haha

[humble geyser]

other than this the animations seem okay in Multiplayer

[humble geyser]

??????????

[humble geyser]

good god this is being a pain in the rear haha

The player model rig is so scrunkly

[humble geyser]

i don't know why it does this, the animation in editor is nothing like this

there's so much weird jank going on

when clients get in for the first time they face the wrong way up until they get out and back in, and then it's fine???

this is such a headache

i'm just going to deal with this later

[north pine]

I said the same thing a while back haha

But yeah lets just let Scandal cook with these vehicles first

And maybe then a few people will start getting a spark for new vehicles

[north pine]

I cant even see the original issue you were talking about xD

I can only see grition

[humble geyser]

Hand was in the wrong place when twisting the key

These custom animations are driving me insane haha, I think I might have an idea of what's going on with them though, just need to play around with them in editor first

[humble geyser]

This bug doesn't happen if I apply the custom shifting animation to the normal Vanilla Cruiser, so something in MY Cruisers code is fucking it up, and it's probably some of the code that applies rotations to arms to prevent the ignition key from going wonky

[humble geyser]

As for this uh, I unno

I might know but, the fact it goes away after getting out and getting back in is, beyond me

[humble geyser]

That later is now, so I'm going to try fix all these issues, hopefully without doing too much janky shit

thankfully the shifter one replicates in editor

the sideways sitting one

not so much

too determined to get this shit working

in an atleast semi-stable and functional state

this is so strange, it's not the code applying any rotations or anything

🤔

alright, so for some reason the upper and lower arm are fucking them selves up specifically on my car, but if i apply the same animation in the vanilla cruiser, it does not do this

just

why

[humble geyser]

okay, i may have a lead, it happens when i look over to the left

probably some weird shit going on with the torso twisting to the left

[humble geyser]

it's super scrunkly but it's alot better than whatever was going on before

[static horizon]

oooo i love that

[humble geyser]

i'm trying to make sure the arm doesn't go bananas like this 😭

it's difficult

the player rig is such a mess

i'm going to twist the torso less and see if that also helps

once this bug is fixed i can investigate this

sigh

this is genuinely so frustrating

even if i try rotate the shoulder this way it'll just fuck up in super weird ways

okay, that's a little bit better

i might be getting closer

and if i look too far to the left it goes super wonky again

[humble geyser]

everytime i apply a rotation to these in the animation clip, they immediately snap back to this horrible rotation

this is awful

oh my god, i might have finally done it

what a nightmare 😭

[cloud veldt]

this is also happening to me rn and its so painful. Custom animations are just behaving completely differently in game vs editor

[humble geyser]

i was just pausing it midgame and playing around with the animation

i'm REALLY happy with this result and i hope it stays this way

[cloud veldt]

did you end up messing with the ladder horizontal check? I had to write a transpiler to skip that line so you could shift the gear even if looking forward

I imagine you'd have to negate it if the wheel is on the right

[humble geyser]

i run my own Update code for this, so no i didn't haha

this uses its own seperate Controller

[humble geyser]

you might want to end up running your own Update() code instead of transpiling the vanilla one because otherwise all these changes for your truck will apply to the vanilla CC

unless you have a check in place

like is HaulerController or whatever

[cloud veldt]

I do __instance checks like this during patches so it only affects my controller

    static void Postfix(bool on, VehicleController __instance)
    {
        if (__instance is HaulerController hauler)

[humble geyser]

ah yeah that's fine then

i'm not good with transpilers anyways haha

[cloud veldt]

yeah I don't blame you they're not very clear and kinda hard to write, but kinda cool once you learn enough cil commands

[humble geyser]

absolutely haha, i've only ever gotten one transpiler to work before and it literally just changed a float

i haven't really run into anything that would require something like a Transpiler yet fortunately lmao

[humble geyser]

i honestly still think it would just be easier to run your own code in your controller rather than transpile it

but yeah i had to flip the value around for rhd

i have to account for both interior types however

since it's a random chance whether it's rhd or not

well, the chance is seeded anyways

[humble geyser]

btw unrelated to this but a quick headsup you might want to call Base.Awake (unless you're just using the base controllers awake or already do this) if you want it to be compatible with mods that cache vehiclecontroller (i.e. weedkiller fixes, butteryfixes for enemies etc)

[cloud veldt]

I just do this

[humble geyser]

ah yeah that's fine

that's good then

[humble geyser]

super horn? lol

[cloud veldt]

... possible spoiler

all I will say is it involves the big red button with emergency markings on the dash

[humble geyser]

oh haha

can't wait to find out what that does :)

[humble geyser]

oh yeah that's much better, i can live with this, i would like the player to be angled a little bit more but, can't have everything

it's very weird driving the Cruiser sitting on the other side, even though it should be natural for me since i'm from the UK haha

[cloud veldt]

looks really good!

[humble geyser]

my issues were the left arm being super finnicky haha

okay, it is happening again

the sideways bug

🤔

it happened on the LHD cruiser too, which doesn't replace animations

so this is a weird one

okay so that null ref might be the clipboard

it's almost as if the player "doesn't really exist" until they get out of the car

okay, that might be fixed now

both interiors will be active by default, and the one not selected will be disabled after

i think one interior being disabled was messing stuff up

[slim quail]

load bearing interior

[humble geyser]

load bearing drywall

[humble geyser]

i refactored the code for the interior selection slightly, so fingers crossed it doesn't break

[humble geyser]

Alright, at some point I will look into getting the Saab actually working again and update it for v70

As of right now, the engine logic is completely broken and it's undrivable haha

Updating for v70 is easy, figuring out what's busted is a whole other challenge
Would also like to quickly implement a passenger seat too haha

[humble geyser]

for some reason now, i can place it after and it doesn't break

so as to what was going wrong before i literally have zero clue

i mean i'm not complaining, i would rather have it after

[humble geyser]

okay, i may be able to actually fix the rhd shifter animation, the hand near gearstick animation wasn't screwed and that had the left hand really close to the gearstick, so i'm copying that and then just quickly remaking the animation

all this grief over a shifter animation

the shoulder also isn't clipping really badly into the players face anymore

[humble geyser]

A or B? personally i'm leaning towards A but i'm curious what other people think

[wispy nacelle]

A

[humble geyser]

A looks a little more polished than B haha

[humble geyser]

something just feels so off about this roof, maybe it's because i'm used to it never having one, or maybe i should make it less angled, i 'unno

[flint prawn]

Does the "eject" button still work/even exist with the roof?

[humble geyser]

probably not lol, i haven't even implemented this ingame yet though

this has just been sitting in my files collecting dust

besides, when i initially started on the roof, i was going to replace the ejector button with a dashboard mounted shifter and have a 3 seater configuration

[slim quail]

imagining the roof just flipping up really fast when it's pressed

[humble geyser]

hole in roof :)

[humble geyser]

I'm honestly just imagining something like this, lol

[humble geyser]

currently just doing a mockup, i think a less angled windshield does fit a little better

[humble geyser]

fancy stuff

[flint prawn]

Ooh! Side door into the back area is cool

[humble geyser]

that side door has been on there since forever lol

you can see it in this photo for example

[static horizon]

never noticed it, that's so sick

[humble geyser]

it's pretty nice for fast loading and unloading

don't have to trudge all the way to the back and jump up into the back

can just park sideways to the entrance and hop in and out

[humble geyser]

oh hell no all the radio songs combined are a little over 18 mb lmfao

i think i'm just going to make all the radio songs a seperate cruisertunes mod

[static horizon]

Oh? did you make your own radio songs?

[humble geyser]

i put some custom songs onto the radio yeah haha

i am most likely going to put them as CruiserTunes mod though, for two reasons

maybe technically three

one, file size on the main mod
two, they aren't copyright free
three, people might not like the songs i add and want to use their own

[static horizon]

ohhh that's super fun, custom made though? 👀 or just from somewhere else

[humble geyser]

oh no not custom made lol

[static horizon]

ooh ok ok so they're from somewhere else

ye fair!!

[humble geyser]

i am not a musician lmao

this is probably my favorite on the radio

[static horizon]

ye making it a separate mod is a good idea, saves time you'd have to spend on a config or whatevs :P

[static horizon]

hey you talented as hell I wouldn't be surprised

[humble geyser]

saves time

i love being lazy

but yeah it would

[static horizon]

I wish I wasn't getting my ears blasted by karaoke rn to listen to this arghh!!!!

[humble geyser]

it's just a low quality version of car wash by rose royce

lol

right now my bundle is like, 17mb which is pretty hefty, and that's without all the radio songs and stuff

the biggest thing in the whole bundle is the main body texture at a whopping 4.2mb

i could probably compress that down to a 2k texture without sacrificing visual quality a whole bunch

i'll have to play around with it and see what i can get smaller

i tried LZ4 compression out of curiosity

why on gods earth is my v55 cruiser 30 mb

oh right the destroyed texture is still 4k and a little over 10mb

that's probably half the reason

[pseudo monolith]

4K wow

[humble geyser]

yeah for some reason the vanilla destroyed texture is 4k

and its a little over 10 mb

got to see that crispy texture on a heavily decimated destroyed truck model 🔥

i thought i already compressed this texture though 🤔

[humble geyser]

this is a 10mb reduction at the cost of having to put the radio songs on a seperate mod

which is fine i guess because it comes with additional benefits

[pseudo monolith]

More songs?

[humble geyser]

the fact i don't have to make configs or anything because the songs i added aren't copyright free

and obviously it just cuts down on size on the main mod

[pseudo monolith]

anyways Good luck to you

[humble geyser]

ty!

oh no sorry not 10mb

fucking 20 mb??

the nmap and roughness are 5.3 a pop

i'm not sure if unitys correct

because file explorer says 10

idk

either way

it's getting reduced

[arctic iris]

10 mb is crazy

that's bigger than the average minecraft marketplace add-on

and a lot of fully fledged Lethal mods actually

[golden meteor]

512x512 with crunch compression ez

[humble geyser]

that's better, lol

30 mb was beyond outrageous

[humble geyser]

yeah that got it down to like

30kb according to unity

lol

[humble geyser]

okay the new roof is done
also 3 seater

and i remodelled the dashboard shifter

and fixed the airvents

[humble geyser]

wow, 400kb, lmao, i mean it is 44100 hz instead of 48000 like the rest

currently just finding 1920s public domain stuff rn

huh, funnily enough 44.1khz is recommended for cds

and this is meant to have a CD-player

[cloud veldt]

are you gonna make custom manuals for your cars?

[humble geyser]

i am yeah haha, i had one for the Scanvan but it's pretty rough around the edges and it's not final

mostly just a reskin of the Vanilla truck manual with some things swapped around

the fourth one desperately needs redoing

it's mostly just slapped together right now for the sake of having a manual

i'll update it at a later date since it's not really high on my priority list

the manuals also kind of oudated lol

the windshield wiper toggle for example is a stock behind to the right of the wheel, not a button to the top left of the dashboard

the cabin window toggle is on the cabin window mesh its self

[humble geyser]

perfect parking on Bilge

[humble geyser]

managed to squeeze it down to 11 mb

was at like, 14

a little more after compressing some audios..

[humble geyser]

the passenger seat is supposed to be the least buggiest and yet it's causing the most problems

so many weird problems that i end up not being able to reproduce, like players getting stuck, and someone else attempting to enter the seat causing their game to crash

and now the random issues where peoples games crash after trying to get out is happening, again

weird, this game gets SPAMMED with this

[flint prawn]

https://tenor.com/view/scout-in-a-mental-asylum-scout-laughing-in-a-corner-scout-in-a-mental-hospital-scout-laughing-gif-18390446700958692071

[humble geyser]

i've refactored the code slightly, i can't reproduce this issue my self consistently so i can't really test it

i've also learnt that Ogopogo breaks custom car animations when he tries to grab me out of the seat

i'll probably just prefix the exit driver side seat method

to call mine instead

[humble geyser]

i.e causes the player to slowly descend and phase through the car while sat down

[slim quail]

Ogopogo destroying unrelated game mechanics part 5 million

[static horizon]

oh?

Hmm I'll report that, do you have any more details?

[cloud veldt]

iirc the passenger seat also isn't correctly programmed either, it doesn't disable your vehicle collision when you sit down

by pure chance you don't intersect with any box colliders so it doesn't cause any issues, but if it does then weird stuff happens like the vehicle just flying away

[humble geyser]

it's probably because it's calling the base method for ExitDriverSideSeat

it's fine, a prefix redirecting the call should work

[humble geyser]

i completely rewrote the code for setting passengers in cars, passengers colliding with cars isn't the problem i'm having

it's very similar to how drivers are set in cars now

[humble geyser]

getting into the passenger side and getting back into the drivers seat would fix it

[humble geyser]

just thinking about it this would probably fail because:

it's checking exit points that don't exist, basically

mine checks currentInterior.driverSideExitPoints

[humble geyser]

so yeah dw, i imagine a prefix redirected call should fix this issue

yeah this issue has now been fixed

just tested on Adamance

Ogopogo will no longer cause the player to slowly descend through the car and phase through the floor

[humble geyser]

Ogopogo took the car with it

[static horizon]

Oh huh, so no work needed on our side then hahah

[humble geyser]

yeah haha, it's just i use my custom code for stuff like exiting the seat and stuff

so calling the base method like Ogopogo does just breaks stuff

i just ended up doing this

[static horizon]

Oh sicknasty, thanks a lot :]

[humble geyser]

you're welcome haha, btw how much hp does ogo have?

is it more than 12?

[static horizon]

I honestly forgot, I think it's like 20?

I had a sheet a long time ago with every enemy's stats but I really just forgot where it is (it was done on physical paper) and don't exactly remember the values

[humble geyser]

ic, it's just that i implemented the flat 12 damage from the v70 cruiser instead of the insta-kill haha

Ogo shouldn't die anymore after touching the truck

well, atleast not for the first time

ideally i'd just exclude Ogopogo from truck collisions, which i might look into doing

[static horizon]

Whatever you think is best honestly 🫡

[humble geyser]

i need to investigate the truck 'colliding' with players in the back when it's at steep angles (where the physics region disables its self but they're still in the back)

idk if this is an inherent issue with physics regions or i fucked something up on my end, if it's a physic region issue i probably won't bother looking any further

spot on spelling there zeekers

[humble geyser]

because i had a time on Adamance where i drove up a steep hill with a friend in the back, the truck got to the steep part, physics region disables its self, he collides with the truck as he falls to the back and it immediately blew up the truck

it was funny yes but also kind of annoying

[humble geyser]

ideally the physics region should still be active but the player stops getting rotated past the tipping point

unfortunately that's not how it works

[humble geyser]

i'm actually not sure why it blew up the truck

because the code for that shouldn't count players as an object it just collided with and cause damage

🤔

[humble geyser]

idk if i should try give the truck a little more shine, like this sort of

this is what it looks like right now

[north pine]

look Scandal!!

new vehicle

[humble geyser]

Oh wow! he got it out! haha, will have to try that

[north pine]

its really cool tbh!

first vehicle mod!

[humble geyser]

I'll try it out in a minute, got to fix my truck first haha

I somehow broke the cabin light, god why

[north pine]

even tho i don't use the cruiser this one its really well made, has a few different things that make it different enough to the cruiser

[bright cave]

didnt pedro release a sleigh

[north pine]

oh idk

[thick ledge]

it was bundled w the xmas moon

[north pine]

we could also count melanie's 2 story cruiser, and code rebirth hoverboard

[bright cave]

i am NOT countin the hoverboard

https://files.catbox.moe/410hor.gif

[humble geyser]

the RV mod is more of just a reskin, kind of like mine, except mine is a seperate vehicle, so it's a bit of a weird one

the hoverboard i wouldn't really count as a vehicle

that's a bit of a grey area

i mean yes, mine does have a fair few extra features than the vanilla one, but it still is just based primarily on the Cruiser

[north pine]

i mean it is a vehicle by definition, but yeah i wouldn't either

[humble geyser]

i can add as much variety to it as i want but it's still, at its core, a Cruiser based vehicle

[north pine]

doesn't make it less cool!

[humble geyser]

oh yeah, i need to try out the "super horn" or whatever it was on that Hauler haha

[north pine]

you can also roll up the windows!!

[humble geyser]

Just about to try it out haha

reading the manual rn

this is really well made

i drove it really fast, put it in park, hit something and exploded

oopsie

that's one wide health bar!!

[thick ledge]

says more than 2x the cruisers hp and thats already a tank

[humble geyser]

That would be 60 hp than haha

My truck has like, 45

what purpose do they serve? i 'unno

i like the dash indicators on the Hauler for stuff like traction control and i've been wanting to implement something like that on mine for a while, for stuff like the parking brake, the headlights, and now the turn signals

[regal bone]

whoa

[humble geyser]

i'm just putting this here since i don't want to flood Trains own thread, i think i said it before here but i would still like to add compatibility for LGU and maybe even add some visual changes depending on the upgrades you get haha

i just don't use LGU so it's also not very high on my priority list

i also kind of just forgot but we don't talk about that

[north pine]

hehe

[humble geyser]

i should probably jot notes down somewhere, maybe even something like a Trello board might work, hmmm..

[north pine]

thanks for the consideration, it would be really cool tbh, but all to its due time

[north pine]

mm maybe

you do have a lot of things planned so it may be good to keep track

[humble geyser]

noting stuff down in my unused alt accounts dms isn't really working to "keep track of things"

[humble geyser]

if ya'll have any ideas feel free to toss them my way and i'll add them to this board

[north pine]

bike

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cats-explosion-explodes-cat-explodes-gif-10131775219258044191

[humble geyser]

For the truck, silly :<

This board is currently just for the truck haha

[north pine]

oh so the other car isn't there?

[humble geyser]

not right now haha, i'm just using this board exclusively for the truck right now

there's alot of things i need to keep track of, if i put the car on there the amount of things will triple tenfold

i would probably give it its own board

just fixed some of the images lol

[humble geyser]

when i make a board for the car i'll definitely put it here

[humble geyser]

i was going to work on the car the other day and then i realised i only have the updated files for that on my other computer lmao

going to wait on that one i guess

[humble geyser]

hmm

[severe robin]

Hey so I saw that you are working on right hand drive version and I got a question: will there be an option for it to be random? It would be a little confusing but refreshing to get the other version after using the opposite one

[humble geyser]

It is already random, the right-hand-drive one is currently on my v55 Cruiser, but I would love to port over alot of those features to this truck

[severe robin]

Oh shit I cant wait for this mod

[humble geyser]

Ah I misread your question, woops

[severe robin]

[humble geyser]

I need to get the right-hand-drive stable first before anything haha

It's currently very weird

It's stable ish, but then there's times it breaks in super weird ways

And then I can never reproduce those issues my self, so it's impossible to fix

As for their being an option for it being random, I'm not sure yet

[severe robin]

Its fine, that mod is already looking like the only mod that can make me and my boys finally buy the company cruiser for the goofs and not the "we need a great way of transport that requires maximum 2 braincells and 1 potato"

[humble geyser]

in a way the Cruiser is meant to be a fun item :)

[severe robin]

Yea but I always ended up screaming at my friend for going inside because he was tired of me driving and crashing it

[humble geyser]

currently working on dashboard symbols, partly inspired by the Hauler, but I did also have these ideas in the back of my mind for a while :)

[severe robin]

But now it will be like "it can do that? cool, now its a cool and expensive looking toy"

[humble geyser]

It can talk :)

[severe robin]

WHAAAAAT

WAIT REALLY?

Thats the last thing I could have ever expect

[humble geyser]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1348033280896929926/1386725975332749383/driverdoor.mp4?ex=68654cb4&is=6863fb34&hm=7970e8a0cccc966a0b663df4368876538d4c6298f68619c7e64c2d45f4427e3f&

If you've ever seen the 1980s Chrysler EVA system, you'll recognise the voice immediately

[severe robin]

10/10

If I had some money I would donate to you

Buuuut im saving for other games...

[humble geyser]

Haha it's all good, I got a chunk of money today since it's mu birthday

I aged today 🎉

[severe robin]

|| still havent paid for lethal company and enjoying the pirated version but shhhhhh..... ||

[severe robin]

Happy birthday then

[humble geyser]

I wouldn't admit that :< but now that you do you should probably buy the game, it's not expensive anyways :<

[hollow pollen]

(20% off on steam)

[severe robin]

I know but I got a 2nd excuse

[humble geyser]

This server doesn't take very well to pirated copies :<

[severe robin]

Because what's the point of buying the game if im still gonna play on the pirated one with friends?

[humble geyser]

Help support the creator, and you get future content updates as soon as they release, also, idk if any Lethal mods do it but they might, they might only work on the Steam version, and adding onto modded, you won't get support here if you're on a pirated version

You don't want to end up like the one guy that got put on The stairs

It is £6.80 right now, it's really worth just buying the game

[severe robin]

Mods work on both version, tested it while making like 3 modpacks

[severe robin]

[humble geyser]

Still, you should probably buy the game, it's not expensive at all for what it is

[severe robin]

W- what Stairs?

Eh, my cheap ass needs to think about it

[humble geyser]

The Stairs, Robyn will tell you all about 'em

It's 6 pounds

[severe robin]

W- who's Robyn?

Should I be scared?

[humble geyser]

Wow, you don't know haha? she's one of the admins here

[severe robin]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-meme-scared-cat-scared-face-cat-scared-gif-5866280529321512286

[severe robin]

Ehhh im here just to ask people to fix bugs in my modpack

And to look on some amazing creations

Like mods

Also how do I buy my character glasses? I cant read shit from close 😭

Dont know what mod causes this but thats pretty hardcore realism right there

Whats next? Being deaf?

[humble geyser]

:<

[humble geyser]

neat

or

[flint prawn]

does the alert icon connect to either of those gauges? like if it relates to the left one it makes more sense to be over there and if it relates to the middle then it makes sense in the middle.

[humble geyser]

it'd make sense to be to the left since that's a combined health/turbo gauge (more meant to be a sort of "engine oil pressure" gauge" the middle gauges is the tachometer (engine speed/ engine rpm) right is wheel speed/speedometer

[severe robin]

What does the Alert mean?

[humble geyser]

i think you kind of get the general gist from the message above

it'll be a warning when the car is critical

so not only will you get the naggy voice alert telling you that your engine is critical while its visibly on fire, you'll get a nice little red alert :<

[severe robin]

Oh right, I saw that but my brain refused to understand it

Mb

[humble geyser]

the dashboard pre-ignition/dashboard sweep whatever works, however, i accidentally included the sun in the prefab and i broke the doors

i have zero clue why the doors broke, genuinely

it'll be something super stupidly obvious that i won't ever spot despite it being right in front of my face

[humble geyser]

okay, why does it keep fucking up the moons lighting

i've removed the sun, why is the sun still in the truck

why does removing the sun, not remove the sun

???

anyways it's looking pretty neat

i'm thinking of making the mirrors fold in/out with the key being in the ignition

i've already seperated and animated them

might also make them fold automatically when magneted to the ship

i REALLY want to try make players voices muffled from the outside

and make opening a door/rolling the windows down effect that

my assetbundle keeps spawning the fucking sun, whyy 😭

[regal bone]

HERE COMES THE SUN, DOODOODOODOOO

[humble geyser]

there's no directional lights on my prefab

so idk why it keeps

spawning the sun

[regal bone]

The cruiser is solar powered

[humble geyser]

it won't stop bundling the sun in my mod despite there being no sun in my prefab

and it completely fucks up the lighting

there is no light source here

i'm just going to restart unity

it's doing some weird shit

if that doesn't work then, ????

[regal bone]

I'm sorry to be joking about a bug that could be annoying to fix but it's just really funny. Idk why, it really shouldn't be.

[humble geyser]

it's all good lol don't need to be sorry

it's such a strange issue

i removed all directional lights and somehow there's still one

okay, i might know the issue

i had made some backups of prefabs and i think it may of been bundling those for WHATEVER reason

so i have moved them out of my project

lets see if it still does it..

yyup

fixed

getting there :p

[humble geyser]

getting the symbols to work properly, lol

my coolant was a lil low

[cloud veldt]

I wanted to do this too, but ended up not bothering

[humble geyser]

it does seem like it might be a bit of a pain, but i'd like to give it a go nontheless

[cloud veldt]

actually.. maybe you could just use the same code that the snare flea uses when its on your head?

[humble geyser]

i did take a look at the snare flea code haha

i'll tackle it when i'm finished up doing everything else

like adding collisions to the roof, fixing the enclosed roof windshield wipers, coding the middle passenger seat etc

also need to make forest giants not grab people out of the car

which should be easy

[thorny sapphire]

Can we get a qol hat we can scan the cars? (Also the cruiser)

[humble geyser]

Like CruiserImproveds scan node?

I'll add that to my to-do on Trello

[thorny sapphire]

Ok

Didnt know a mod already does that but yea

[humble geyser]

do you not use CruiserImproved?

it adds a configurable scan-node to the truck

[thorny sapphire]

No i dont and even if i did i didnt know it did that, i think i do know the mod exists

[humble geyser]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/DiggC/CruiserImproved/ :)

fixes a bunch of weird jank with the vanilla CC

• qol improvements

[thorny sapphire]

Neat

[humble geyser]

infact i just realised if i make the mirrors fold they're going to clip into the door when they're open since they aren't attached to the door

i didn't really take that into consideration

i mean i could extend the door

like this

but extending the door just looks, well, stupid

[humble geyser]

it's a little funky but it looks way better than extending the door

[humble geyser]

i might also make the cameras stop rendering when the mirrors are folded, but this may become a config option

since it'd look a little weird seeing them pop in and out of existence

[humble geyser]

this has the fortunate side effect of allowing the window to roll down further too :>

[humble geyser]

i'm also going to add some fog exclusion zones to the cabin (if it has an enclosed roof anyways) like i did in the rear storage compartment

so fog can't get in

alright so fog shouldn't leak into the cabin anymore lmao

cozy

wow, the employee barely just has enough headroom to stand up in the cab lol

i feel like as soon as i add collisions to the roof it's going to cause some funky physics shit

i might add a little sloped collider to make it easier to get into the truck so you don't gotta jump or smth

[humble geyser]

i'm not sure how fixable this is but hugging the back wall can kinda do some funky shit with the truck

this is also probably a issue with the vanilla truck

[thorny sapphire]

how long until releasable? just curious not even the actual release

[humble geyser]

'unno, it's why i put this in the first message of this thread

once i knock some stuff off my trello board i would probably be able to release it, but it wouldn't be in its complete final form and some features would have to come later

this is my board right now

i'm currently working on the roof and 3 seater configuration

stuff like a right hand drive can defo wait and come at a later date, same for stuff like the foot brake pedal and stuff

i'm also just generally very slow at working on things and get sidetracked super easy 😭

the Cruiser will also now block rain leaking into the cabin like i did with the rear storage compartment :>

[humble geyser]

and the variety (different front ends and stuff) that could defo wait

and for the meantime it'd just always have a roof

[humble geyser]

so i guess the physics when standing in the cab is just going to super wack and janky, like i expected

you should ideally just sit down anyways, there's 3 seats

[humble geyser]

alright, the colliders, weather blockers, fog exclusion zones and all that fancy stuff should be done for the enclosed top

if you stand up in the cab it may cause some funky interactions with the truck but i guess that's to be expected, especially since it's a cramped area and player v vehicle interactions were never great to begin with

you have barely enough room but regardless it can still cause the truck to freak out, especially on inclines lol

i'm going to code in the third middle seat, that should be pretty easy though

i still need to beautify the interior headliner but that can wait for now

after the passenger seat i'll fix the dashboard symbols

[humble geyser]

also optimised the mirrors (ty Train!) and reduced their size (they were unnecessarily huge)

[humble geyser]

fixed some missing colliders around the roof

i think old birds can somehow see me in the truck lmao

or maybe not?

can't tell

old bird was probably mad at something else ig

yeah no they can't

can't see me in the cab when flying either which, makes sense ig

if you open a door they can see through the door but if its shut they can't

[humble geyser]

ignore the blue light but you can roll down the window (no sound yet)

this is shaping up very nicely so far

[humble geyser]

the truck should prevent giants from grabbing you unless the doors are open, need to test first though

they probably won't even see me in the cab to begin with

[slim quail]

Will the player be able to look in a wider angle (like with CI) if the window is open?

[humble geyser]

it already had the wider angle thing, but now i need to implement a restriction of looking over to the left (driver) right (passenger) if the windows closed lol

right now you just clip through the window if you look over the back

[slim quail]

Got it

It's the one drawback of the hauler imo, it has the limited vanilla view angles

[humble geyser]

oops

i did NOT

mean to post the dll

for the truck

i was trying to post a screenshot

😭

[slim quail]

https://tenor.com/view/deleted-cat-unsent-unsend-message-gif-26266359

[humble geyser]

you can't do anything with it anyways

it's just the dll

[slim quail]

The dllnits

[humble geyser]

idk why my stupid clipboard even pasted that 😭

interesting errors that i'm pretty sure aren't caused by my truck

anyways yeah giants don't see you unless you open a door or window lol

anyways yeah it seems like he can't grab me out of the seat now

either that or i broke them entirely

one or the other

[flint prawn]

Imperium

It does that for some reason

[humble geyser]

ah

ic

i wonder if i could have two physics regions, one for the front cab and one for the rear compartment, and have it so if you're in the front one (not sat in a seat) and all the doors are shut you can't be grabbed

dunno how buggy that might be

[golden meteor]

i would probably just have a capsule collider that checks if the player is in it

rather than multiple physics regions

[humble geyser]

or that yeah

[golden meteor]

lol

[humble geyser]

something like this? i've added a capsule collider to the cab of my truck which is cabinPoint

[golden meteor]

yeah that's perfect

[humble geyser]

awesome

[humble geyser]

i should probably add a similar patch to the old bird

[humble geyser]

blender simply imploded after removing a material

truly the blender experience

[humble geyser]

added a little mount for the Sunvisors on the enclosed roof

[regal bone]

Wow this is looking amazing so far

Really good time for drivers in this game lately

[humble geyser]

i want to make a display up here, but i'm not sure what it should display

my initial idea, many many months ago, was that it would show the total amount of scrap in the back (credits worth)

but i'm open to suggestions

[pseudo monolith]

Moon Scrap or Ship scrap. Idk that all I got.

[arctic iris]

add seatbelts

to the seats

and if the vehicle is started up and passengers are present but are not using their belts, needs to be some flashing icon and beeps to indicate that belts need to be used otherwise the vehicle won't accelerate

[humble geyser]

that was also another idea i had

like my parents Saab

[humble geyser]

idk what i did but its broken super bad LOL

its doing cartwheels in the air

it's ascending off into the Thistle Nebula

[hollow pollen]

I think we finally found out what the 'boat' is

[humble geyser]

it was a talking truck :)

i slightly altered the windshield wipers and it started doing this

[hollow pollen]

They were too powerful

[humble geyser]

Bosch wiper blades :>

okay i think it's the capsule collider, may of forgot to exclude some collisions

problem fixed!

the wipers don't uh, wipe

interesting

a quick clip that shows the mirrors in action :)

i need to fix the shifter animation haha

it's a little off since i redid the model for the gearstick

[severe robin]

what if it would display time but it would start beeping and showing that you need to fasten your seatbelts?

[humble geyser]

hmmm maybe

i did want to add a clock

i could add an analog clock though

[severe robin]

this feels weirdly vanilla like

something that Zeekers would make

and thats why I love it

[humble geyser]

if zeekers made it it would break in really strange ways

the mirrors would probably fall off the minute you take the key out

[severe robin]

yea, he got great ideas but not the best coding skills I guess

[humble geyser]

i don't think it's that he lacks the ability to code he just makes some really weird decisions

[severe robin]

or maybe that

idk, I shouldnt be speaking about coding, I only know print fuction and thats it

[humble geyser]

probably because it's a vanilla Cruiser that has just received an extreme overhauling session

[severe robin]

yea but that music and the car saying "check fluid lvl" just feels vanilla

[humble geyser]

Chrysler system :>

[severe robin]

it feels like you bought an expensive item but it got so many downsides yet its still pretty good

by this I mean the old music for example

it just feels like its going to fall apart but in a good way

[humble geyser]

i kinda have to put the old music in or else if anyone makes videos on it they'll be immediately dmca'd

i did have some non copyright friendly songs but i'll make them a seperate submod that are loaded through CruiserTunes

[severe robin]

and it adds an extra charm to it

[humble geyser]

stuff like this

car wash was my favourite

[humble geyser]

it doesn't really fit with what i was doing, but i don't want to get people immediately dmca'd

i changed out the cassette player for an 8 track preset CD player w/ FM and AM

which i wanted to have more ""modern"" music

[severe robin]

i get it and its still a pretty good list of songs for the base mod

[severe robin]

and this would be perfect for a optional add-on

just like you said

[humble geyser]

i would LOVE to somehow implement that live radio that can connect to real stations onto the truck

i think that would be so COOL and i'm surprised nobodys tried it yet

[severe robin]

i think the closest was a mod adding a radio furniture

[humble geyser]

that's the mod i was talking about

ik what it is lol

[severe robin]

its open source on github and im not a big nerd but i think you could use some of its code/make something similar

[humble geyser]

i already took a peak at it

[severe robin]

im actually the opposite of a nerd

[humble geyser]

it's not something i'm in dire need of so it'll probably just go on the backburner for now

i'll add it to the board

[severe robin]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/936363796069490728.gif?size=48&quality=lossless

just like that cat

no clue at all

[severe robin]

wait I got a good question

do other CruiserTunes mods work with yours?

[humble geyser]

yes

it's probably cause i call base.awake and i believe cruisertunes patches awake

[severe robin]

hmmm, I have 0 coding experience and it would take whole summer but I could try coding for the first time

(spoiler: it went probably horrible)

and make a seperate mod for yours

[humble geyser]

i only call base.awake for compatibility with mods that cache vehiclecontroller like butteryfixes or yesfox or weedkillerfixes, but i guess that also meant cruisertunes works with mine too

[severe robin]

that would add real life time radio

[severe robin]

I have no idea what base.awake means but I guess google is here to help with stuff like this

[humble geyser]

it's calling awake on the base vehiclecontroller script

[severe robin]

time to tryt making some funny code hehe

[humble geyser]

any mods that patch awake will make changes to mine

if cruisertunes adds songs to the radioClip list on awake, it'll apply to mine when i call base.awake

[severe robin]

ok that one I know from log spams

[humble geyser]

awake shouldn't spam

[severe robin]

"lethal perfomance patched blablabla"

[humble geyser]

it's called once

[severe robin]

yea but its called for multiple mods

and my log is literal warfare between many mods

[humble geyser]

should probably sort your modpack out then :)

[severe robin]

im trying to do that but I still want to configure scrap/moons, lost wifi for 2 days meanwhile and I still dont know why my character cant read shit from close

I love modding this game

[humble geyser]

the wipers have been fixed :p

watch your idiot coworkers tumble around in the back with this terrible rearview mirror :)

snowman

[severe robin]

finally I can watch my idiot friend goof around back there
you dont wanna know how stupid he is tho...

[humble geyser]

i was just playing a game with my friend haha, i think now i'm going to look into limiting the lean angle unless the window is open

[humble geyser]

it's a small thing but i don't think there's a whole lot i can do regarding rain hit particles slightly clipping into the cab when moving

it's such a small and insignificant thing but it still really irks me

[humble geyser]

honestly if i could just make rain not render inside the cab (like a fog exclusion zone) that would be fine with me

[humble geyser]

i hope this shit isn't buggy and doesn't break if anyone else wants to do this, but the car should automatically enable Triggers on the rain particles and add its weather blocker objects to them

they get their mode set to Kill so it should stop droplets leaking in

:p

[arctic iris]

YEAH

Isn't this a problem with the vanilla cruiser? The rain splash particles.
Shit like this reaaally bugs me too

Minecraft has a billion issues with particles like this

[humble geyser]

rain particles only collide with Foliage and Room layered objects, i couldn't use Room since it prevented the trucks magnet range detection so i made the weather blockers Foliage and then patched OccludeAudio to include the Vehicle layer so it muffles audio like Room would, i've had this for a while.

However, ever since i added the roof and the weather blocker objects, i started noticing that at speed, particles can sometimes "leak" into the cab, so i've created a function that runs in the Start of my truck that will enable Triggers on the rain particles and automatically adds the rain blockers to the list

particles SLIGHTLY leaking into the back at speed has always been an issue, but i just never really took any notice of it until i added the roof over the cab, and started noticing them going into the cab

they shouldnt do this anymore with my new function, i just hope that, for any other vehicle mods wanting to do something similar, that this would be compatible with those

rain particles leaking into the cab of the vanilla CC is okay since it has no roof

but the rear compartment has a roof, but they leak in

[humble geyser]

i could probably just spawn two of my trucks and see what happens

although, i guess the whole "hope it doesn't break with other vehicles!" is more thinking of "multiple vehicles at once" which in its self doesn't really work that well

i'm not aware of any other mods that modify the Triggers for the rain particles, could be wrong though

okay. spawning two just means that the last spawned one overwrites the existing rain blockers in the list

fixed :)

now i need to remove em from the list when the car is destroyed or deleted

i might move the code that sets Triggers to true to its own harmony patch tbf that seems like a slightly better idea

i'm pretty sure the weather particles are persistent between going into space and landing on a moon? so this should be okay

i love how looking up even under shelter causes helmet condensation

[humble geyser]

okay, for whatever reason it's now creating a bunch of random empty objects

and that's just spawning one car

[humble geyser]

mkay, this issue has been fixed

and it seems like they correctly get removed when the car is destroyed

i'm calling this part done

[humble geyser]

okay it may appear like i've broken giants entirely grabbing you

ah, okay, i see the issue

[humble geyser]

alrighty, the giant prefix should work correctly now, it was pretty busted before aha

yup! it's working as intended

you should now have protection from giants while sat in the cab

they do have a little bit of trouble trying to grab you because of the code that just checks if the player is in the vehicles physics region and the back doors shut but eh, i'll see if i can do something for them

[humble geyser]

Hahaha, this is too cool not to share, but did you know there were Spanish and French versions of the EVA system? I'd love to implement them onto my truck alongside the english one currently on it but they're sooooooooo rare. I just found this video but the quality is pretty dire https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTIiGeKNr8E

[humble geyser]

playing around with the EVA some more, added a six beep chime when you insert the key and altered the behaviour of the startup alerts

i should probably make it a little quieter, aha

it's a little deafening

[humble geyser]

alright, i got all the open top roof assets set back up again haha, they're just hidden right now but atleast they're there for when i can code in the random roof chance

the model hierarchy is becoming such a mess, but i'm still trying to keep it atleast somewhat clean

[thorny sapphire]

If its not too much effort, can we have a small chance for the mario kart race starting sound (the beep pitch reminded me of it)

[humble geyser]

it's not too much effort at all, i just don't want to do something like that

[humble geyser]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTIiGeKNr8E i know this is spanish but it's the ignition chime

[thorny sapphire]

Aw… thats fair tho

[humble geyser]

at 0:10

[thorny sapphire]

Oh ok

Yeah thats fine

Just leave it to other modders to make mods for mods :p

Actually… now that i think of it how many mods are there for other mods?

Mod squared

[north pine]

Probably a lot

[thorny sapphire]

Guess they are just buried by mods to vanilla…

[north pine]

And also you can do it yourself when the mod drops hehe

Its not hard at all tbh

[thorny sapphire]

I guess i could start learning sound replacement

[humble geyser]

loaforcs :3

[thorny sapphire]

Speaking of how complex would it be to make a mod that makes a sound play when there isnt normally one playing (cough kidnapping rhymes with grug cough)

[north pine]

Its not even learning

[thorny sapphire]

True

[north pine]

I have almost zero knowledge in coding and i was able to figure it out in a few hours

Hardest part was publishing the mod to thunderstore tbh xd

The tutorial loaforc provides is amazing

[thorny sapphire]

Same pain when i made my suits lol

[north pine]

Tbh suits is 1000 times harder than sound replacement

So you should be ok

[humble geyser]

The worst part of suits is dealing with Zeekers god awful texture

[north pine]

Just follow the tutorial

[north pine]

Hehe

[humble geyser]

He just uses the automatic unwrapping feature and it's awful

[humble geyser]

i can never get the cars shader to look good haha, it's either shiny with some really weird inverted patches of darkness, or rough with no inverted patches

i mean, it has a little bit of shine, the lighting in this editor isn't great

but it's very rough

i want some roughness yes, but i don't want it completely matte like

messing around with smoothness remapping gives me this - i could probably work with this

i feel like this could just be what i'm looking for

i contemplated attempting to map this to the Cruisers texture to try make it "look more vanilla" but that's for another time

[north pine]

This car looks so cool im really excited for it hehe

[humble geyser]

i can't wait to bin that god awful interior model

if i get this under some proper ingame lighting it'll give me a better idea of how this shader looks

atleast the tires aren't glowing like crazy anymore haha

i might see if i can actually get the car working again

been a while since i looked at this code, haha

this is terrible

makes me want to redo all of it all over again

going to organise a bunch of stuff first lol

[humble geyser]

alright, i've cleaned up everything in the Saabs code and nuked the old engine code so i can redo it, and hopefully it'll actually drive this time

well, everything aside the ignition code

[humble geyser]

can check that off the list now

[humble geyser]

the only secret i would probably add in regards to sound would be like, knight rider (KITT) voice lines that replace some of the EVA ones as a very rare chance

[humble geyser]

wow, my trucks bundle is now just a measly 8 mb

if i use default compression anyways

LZ4 or whatever bumps it up to like 11-12

it's working again! got a long road ahead of work to do though..

sweet jesus that suspension travel

ah neat my whole pc locked up

[pseudo monolith]

That happen to me like 2 or 3 times

[humble geyser]

pretty rad

rn it's just on the default Cruiser logic until i can come up with something better and more suited to it

[thorny sapphire]

If you can, it should be lighter, or are the physics automatically determined

[humble geyser]

lighter as in the color or the weight?

[thorny sapphire]

Weight

Also if u have a way to easily, can we get a speed comparison?

If you have them at different speeds that is

[humble geyser]

i can change the weight yeah, but i just want to give this car its own engine and transmission logic

and i might try get a better wheelcollider for it

it's just temporarily on the Cruisers logic so it can atleast move

that logic is not final at all

it's just a bandaid right now

since when i tried implementing stuff from my truck onto it it just refused to move under its own power

[humble geyser]

just did a run with my friend with the truck, some past issues have started persisting again..

and some news one crept up..

[humble geyser]

i've moved the animation code to the interacttrigger on a prefix, hah, hope this is a little more reliable

it should run before the truck animation bool is set (?)

[humble geyser]

coolant, battery and oil light :>

[regal bone]

Wait is the battery just flavor or would it be a feature?

[humble geyser]

...and a hazard light symbol

[humble geyser]

probably just flavor for now

i've also implemented a new horn but i stfg horns are so difficult to loop without clicking or popping

i would like to add a sort of basic "overheating" mechanic to make the coolant light come on

maybe it'd make the car unable to start until its cooled off

it probably wouldn't be long of a wait time ofc

oh i should add a glowplug light

would love to add a glowplug mechanic

especially for snowy moons

i also made some of the radio music a little louder to match the others :>

they were a lil quiet

[slim quail]

battery fucking dies because nobody turns headlights off ever

[static horizon]

i always do ❤️

[humble geyser]

if you take the key out with the lights on it'll very much warn you :)

YOUR HEADLAMPS, ARE ON

BEEP
BEEP
BEEP
BEEP
BEEP
BEEP
BEEP
BEEP
BEEP
BEEP
BEEP
BEEP
<repeat>

[humble geyser]

i'm going to restructure some of the custom animation code, hopefully less prone to breaking this time

[humble geyser]

okay i just made things worse

if i run the storeparameters it seems okay, now i probably just need to check that:
A. it works in MP
B. it doesn't break other vehicle anims

seems alright with the vanilla CC

[humble geyser]

seems fine in MP too

welp, only a matter of time until i find out if this is stable enough

it'll probably break in the strangest ways imaginable

[humble geyser]

i'm going to see what I can in terms of optimising the side and rear-view mirrors, atleast I assume they're the root of performance problems (testing on Bilge, it starts tanking a little)

Also tested the Hauler, and it tank slightly but only a little less, so I'm putting my bets on the wingmirrors

It's not like, major, it's not like 1 fps, it's around 45-50

But, still

going to significantly cut down the render distance and play around with the rendering settings

[humble geyser]

the fps clears up as you get away from the main area

so i'm confident it's the mirrors not rendering that area as you get away from it

[humble geyser]

fps seems a little better after completely nuking the render distance by about 3/4 of what it originally was and messing around with rendering settings

[severe robin]

hmmmm
is it supposed to be cheaper or more expensive than cruiser?

[humble geyser]

i haven't really decided on a price for the car yet haha, i want to finish like, all the major stuff before i consider that

right now it's just 1 credit for testing purposes lmfao

it'd probably be cheaper

maybe like, 150 credits or something

or maybe even like, 90 or 99, would be a fun reference to the cars history too

[severe robin]

then what if it would be lighter as someone said but harder to steer and had worse brakes?

[humble geyser]

these cars didn't handle like garbage irl

[severe robin]

90 is a lil too cheap ngl

maybe 190?

[severe robin]

well, I never really learned anything about them

so idk, I trust you then

[humble geyser]

the saab 900s were built to handle the brutal swedish winters 😛

it'll probably have a similar steering system to the Cruiser but i will make the wheel center its self

[severe robin]

yea but it needs to be balanced in some way

what if it was slow and fragile?

[humble geyser]

900s were not slow or fragile either :)

especially the turbos

they were pocket rockets