darmuhs mod thread [ Terminal Stuff | Suits Terminal | Ship Colors | ghost Codes | Constellations ]

[dry birch]

01951447-3024-c6f5-8bdb-5cb8369187d0

unsure which log is which

[earnest sundial]

My friends had this issue

It got stuck like this

What happened?

[fickle rapids]

do filter none

[modern wing]

Man, you can read?

[gleaming beacon]

https://gyazo.com/90272e28399bd1697b356fa9f8d8d513

somehow i dont think "radarzoomkws" is to return <lootlist>

[dry birch]

Is this known already or?

I got phantom pinged, reveal yourself, coward

[tidal patrol]

yeah if things aren't loaded in the game the config entries will show as orphaned. They should still work tho once the object spawns in. If the bag config item isnt working when it spawns then that would be something I'd have to scratch my head on figuring out

first log appears to be client where I see this error:

Stack trace:
Unity.Netcode.NetworkObject.SpawnInternal (System.Boolean destroyWithScene, System.UInt64 ownerClientId, System.Boolean playerObject) (at <895801699cfc4b4ab52267f31e2a4998>:IL_002F)
Shrimp.Patches.StartOfRoundPatch.Start_Prefix (GrabbableObject __instance) (at G:/Unity/modding/Shrimp/Patches/StartOfRoundPatch.cs:15)```
second log has the following messages (where the first one doesn't):
```[14:14:03.8317360] [Message:darmuhsTerminalStuff] Store page replaced with StorePlus page!
[14:14:03.8818700] [Message:darmuhsTerminalStuff] Moons page replaced with MoonsPlus page!```

so i'd say that first error is breaking my entry point to replace the pages, just a guess tho

[tidal patrol]

honestly relatable tho, I forget about the LLL filter/sorting stuff all the time. As someone else mentioned filter none will fix that issue

[dry birch]

That first error is one of the meaningless errors I have in my modpack I think

To do with LC Shrimp

And doesn’t actually break anything

To my knowledge at least

[modern wing]

The point we got to undermine errors, lol.

[dry birch]

I added it relatively recently, and iv had this bug since before then

[tidal patrol]

well if you disable the mod and it still doesnt work for clients let me know

but i'm pretty sure that error breaks my patch lol

[dry birch]

I’ll try it tmrw but I’m pretty sure it’s still gonna desync

Since all it is is an enemy mod

Albeit an incredibly buggy one

Spits out errors all the time

Maybe it’s bestiary completely messes with the terminal somehow

[tidal patrol]

it'd also help if you turned on these

[dry birch]

Shall do

[tidal patrol]

it doesnt matter if it touches the terminal or not btw. The patch is at StartOfRound Start (as a prefix) which a lot of different mods patch into. The fact that it is erroring out is not good

[dry birch]

I’ll probably drop into piggy’s thread about this at some point then too

At this rate I think LC shrimp will get deprecated cause it’s just broken beyond repair

[tidal patrol]

with these I could determine if anything from my startofround patch loads and give you a better answer

[dry birch]

Even outside this terminal issue

[dry birch]

I’ll update you tmrw at some point cause I’m currently in bed rn 😭

Sleepy I am

[tidal patrol]

no worries, I just recently got out of bed lol

[dry birch]

Ayyy

Have a good day then

‼️‼️

Also before I go

I vaguely remember a while back someone reporting this issue with constellations

But I’m not sure if that was a separate bug to the plus pages one, despite the similarities

[dry birch]

More or less the exact same issue I have currently with the constellation page (as well as the plus pages if you wanna group them as being the same bug) not loading for clients, but loading for the host

[tidal patrol]

could be the same issue but would need logs to be sure

[tidal patrol]

yeah this was just me being lazy with copy paste, will fix

[gleaming beacon]

literally unplayable get your act together ♥

[pseudo kelp]

Yeah it isn't working when the object wasn't originally loaded in the ship, and when the object is there in the ship on load in. Like, both sitations seem to result in a bag set to be black as being the default blue. If I had to guess (as someone who has absolutely no idea) might be something different with using the renderer instead of the meshrenderer? If it wasnt' happening before with the other types of scrap. But idk.

Actually I'll check if the zipper has the same issue, because that had loaded before you made the change.....

Ok I just spawned in and the bag is correctly black.... I swear I tried this like 10 times yesterday! These are my current settings, do any of these settings being unchecked undo customizations? Either way I guess I'll just keep these checked lol

[tidal patrol]

that should be good, the visibility thing is only really if you want to be able to hide things (like cables, pipes, etc .)

tho you could theoretically hide the zipper if you wanted for some reason lol

[pseudo kelp]

okedoke for realsies this time: If I load in a save now with a bag, it's black. But spawning a new one still makes it blue until quitting and reloading.

Also would that just make it completely invisible? lol

[tidal patrol]

Yeah the zipper would be gone but the bag would still be there

For other bags I guess the issue is the way it spawns in is the drop ship

So I'd have to patch that probably if I wanted to catch drop ship items on spawn

I think

[pseudo kelp]

Would luv it if possible

another weird thing about that - at least this seems weird to me but maybe in the code it's not so weird - when I change the config it does update the bag right away. Actually, nvm thats not so weird.

Ig that just has to do with the config settings being loaded or not

[tidal patrol]

Something to look into in the future for sure. Right now I'm working on getting terminal stuff on my new refactored methods

[tidal patrol]

Yeah that's intentional lol

[pseudo kelp]

no worries love all your stuff, so thank you!

[pseudo kelp]

oh hey this might be actually weird, ones that were already loaded have the color but new ones from the dropship don't.

[tidal patrol]

Yeah that's the lack of a drop ship patch prolly

[dusk veldt]

you can change the color of the belt bag?

[tidal patrol]

My patch is for auto parent to ship which is called when you spawn in for everything already in the ship so if it spawns in another way (drop ship) it won't get colored

[tidal patrol]

Yeah if you set up your filters in ship colors to allow it you can

[pseudo kelp]

Sorry got another thing lol, but this is for terminal packs. Based on my messing around I think the terminal is taking inputs from packs that are listed earlier in the config than other packs. Kinda hard to explain but I'll decribe it like this:

Let's say I have 3 packs, and I'll write it like how it goes in the config:
One:pro,walkie;Two:toilet,teleporter;Three:boombox,spray

If you try to order pack "Three" it'll say "you've already unlocked this for your ship" if you already have a teleporter on your ship because it's reading the "Two" pack. Moving Two past the Three pack in the config makes you able to buy Three again even if you have a teleporter on your ship.

Only noticed this because it's interfereing with portable teleporters too. If you made it like this:
One:pro,walkie;Two:toilet,portable;Three:boombox,spray
You can order "Two" even if you have a teleporter on your ship, but can't order "Three" because somehow it knows "portable teleporter" is the full item name and reads that, preventing buying the pack.

Also I have terminalconflictfix but I think this was happening before I added that.

[tidal patrol]

oh thats helpful, yeah there's some known issues with purchase packs and unlockables

mostly if you buy an unlockable and also have one listed in a purchase pack

its something I plan to look into

[pseudo kelp]

Yee kinda a niche thing, but still wanted to mention. Only noticed because I had a furniture pack and everything after it in the list seemed to be unpurchaseable.

[tidal patrol]

yeah I haven't looked into it too much but someone else mentioned here earlier that the price of a purchase pack will be 0 if any unlockable in it has been purchased

the intended behavior is to remove the singular item and it's cost from the price

[pseudo kelp]

Ah I had that a bit ago but I thought that was because I went over an item limit

it was a beeg pack

[tidal patrol]

yeah the only item limit you run into should be the drop ship item max

[pseudo kelp]

onemorething.jpg
Just in case it's a different thing with the color patch you mentioned; the bag seems to not get the color on load in if it's on the shelf in the cabinet

[tidal patrol]

yeah items in the storage cabinet are tricky because technically they're considered part of the storage cabinet

see, they become the storage cabinet's children

[pseudo kelp]

I suppose that makes sense for position data and stuff but for colors? lmao

[tidal patrol]

how my code works is it crawls from a singular parent object to all it's children searching for Renderer type components. Once the Renderer type components are found it looks for materials to adjust the material's color property

in this case the 4 beltbag items are children of the storagecloset game object

I could probably hardcode some sort of check but yeah that's the reason for it

and it'd be like that for anything you can interact with in game that you store stuff with

so like mel's furniture and maybe even ship inventory

[pseudo kelp]

I see I see.... Well if it's a hassle tbh the dropship color really is the only thing that matters (for items anyways)

[tidal patrol]

it's just hard to work around when doing generative stuff

i did test a new patch to grab any networked object spawn which seems to work

something fun I noticed, if you change the color config mid-game it will only change the color of the first one your game spawned. That's because I only keep a reference to the first one in my container class

anyway, the above will require an openlib update so dont expect it any time soon. Have some other stuff in the works that I cant post just yet

[pseudo kelp]

All good, thank you for looking into it!

When do you think you'll update openlib next? Just outta curiosity - not rushin lol

bc I may just turn off the bag color until it's more consistent even tho its coolio

[tidal patrol]

kinda depends, i'm working on migrating two core systems in terminalstuff to newer systems. And part of the fun is finding out what holes my new system has that I need to fill in the gaps for

the two systems almost all of my mods rely on so I also have to make sure things play nicely together lol

so it just depends on how smooth things go as far as transitioning stuff over

[tidal patrol]

@silk olive look at this throwback https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_80-yAA0zE

[blazing matrix]

God that powered by Advanced Company shit looked like such a virus popup

Ugh

[silk olive]

oh my god 😆

that was a millenium ago

[lavish blaze]

I noticed a bug with suitsTerminal and MoreCompany. When we are more than 4 in a lobby and someone uses the !wear command to change outfit, then someone else changes with him. Doesnt happen when changing through the terminal, but sometimes the terminal doesnt work for someone for some reason (it was the 5th player that was having issue, but idk if it's always the case) so we ressort to using the command.

[dusk veldt]

i never knew it moved so uncomfortably

[tidal patrol]

if you have the time could you play your next session with this setting enabled and provide logs from the players affected? Would appreciate this info in a github issue so I dont lose it as well

[tidal patrol]

posted Jan 20, 2024

the way that menu item was created at the start is so cursed too

[lavish blaze]

Will do 👍

[wild atlas]

Hey darmuh!
I'm having an issue with 1 of my friends
It says that it's caused by MoonPlus

Here is his log

Out of my 10 friends that are playing, he is the only one who has the issue

[tidal patrol]

what's the issue they are experiencing? aside from the errors

[wild atlas]

unable to enter into the lobby as a host

he can create a match and use everything

But he's getting the black screen when trying to enter onto our lobby

no matter the host or the save

[tidal patrol]

I see a handful of errors in that log

have they restarted their game and tried to join?

[wild atlas]

yup

several times

[tidal patrol]

so is the issue they can only host but not join as a client?

[wild atlas]

yup

I tried everything :,]

He just recently gave me the latest log

but it's only him out of my 10 friends :,]

[tidal patrol]

the line from this error means one of these is null:
GameNetworkManager.Instance
GameNetworkManager.Instance.localPlayerController
GameNetworkManager.Instance.localPlayerController.IsHost

[wild atlas]

that's why I can't find the issue

[tidal patrol]

which shouldnt be a thing when joining

I mean there's a handful of errors in the log as well that might help you figure out what's different

like does everyone get this one?

[03:33:10.9308623] [Warning:LethalRichPresence] Cannot initialize Discord
[03:33:10.9334670] [Error  :LethalRichPresence] ActivityUpdate:: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
[03:33:10.9880567] [Error  : Unity Log] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
Stack trace:
LethalRichPresence.Lifecycle.ActivityUpdate () (at ./Lifecycle.cs:241)
LethalRichPresence.Lifecycle.Start () (at ./Lifecycle.cs:37)```

[fickle rapids]

there's this too

[tidal patrol]

or this one

Stack trace:
MoreShipUpgrades.Managers.UpgradeBus.Reconstruct () (at <5b9f96b3311141ec94eb05a7998ddb78>:IL_002B)
MoreShipUpgrades.Configuration.LategameConfiguration.PluginConfig_InitialSyncCompleted (System.Object sender, System.EventArgs e) (at <5b9f96b3311141ec94eb05a7998ddb78>:IL_000D)
CSync.Lib.SyncedConfig2`1[T].OnInitialSyncCompleted (System.Object sender, System.EventArgs e) (at /home/runner/work/CSync/CSync/CSync/CSync/Lib/SyncedConfig2.cs:49)
CSync.Lib.ConfigSyncBehaviour.OnNetworkSpawn () (at /home/runner/work/CSync/CSync/CSync/CSync/Lib/ConfigSyncBehaviour.cs:95)
Unity.Netcode.NetworkBehaviour.VisibleOnNetworkSpawn () (at <895801699cfc4b4ab52267f31e2a4998>:IL_0000)
UnityEngine.Debug:LogException(Exception)
Unity.Netcode.NetworkBehaviour:VisibleOnNetworkSpawn()
Unity.Netcode.NetworkObject:InvokeBehaviourNetworkSpawn()
Unity.Netcode.NetworkSpawnManager:SpawnNetworkObjectLocallyCommon(NetworkObject, UInt64, Boolean, Boolean, UInt64, Boolean)
Unity.Netcode.NetworkSpawnManager:SpawnNetworkObjectLocally(NetworkObject, SceneObject&, Boolean)
Unity.Netcode.NetworkObject:AddSceneObject(SceneObject&, FastBufferReader, NetworkManager)
Unity.Netcode.SceneEventData:SynchronizeSceneNetworkObjects(NetworkManager)
Unity.Netcode.NetworkSceneManager:HandleClientSceneEvent(UInt32)
Unity.Netcode.NetworkSceneManager:ClientLoadedSynchronization(UInt32)
Unity.Netcode.SceneEventProgress:<SetAsyncOperation>b__37_0(AsyncOperation)
UnityEngine.AsyncOperation:InvokeCompletionEvent()```

[tidal patrol]

lol I was just pasting that

[fickle rapids]

idk who made terminal stuff but clearly it sucks

[tidal patrol]

I was gonna paste that next

which I was wondering if they activated a rainbowflashlight and then left the lobby (and maybe my code didnt catch it to stop the coroutine)

though, judging by where the error happened it looks like helmetLight may have been null there

anyway, yeah I'd compare to another client's logs and see what errors are present in both vs what's unique to this client other than the one you sent me just to make sure there's nothing else distinct to this player's logs

i'll add some null ref handling for the flashlight one. Might have to experiment using a different property for the host check thing if that error is not caused by something else breaking before it

[wild atlas]

gotcha

[blazing matrix]

Speaking of TerminalStuff

@tidal patrol Glitch caught this error the other day, any idea what caused it?

[tidal patrol]

i can peek at the line give me a sec

[fickle rapids]

could be me depending on what you're doing darmuh

i mess with the radar list too but nothing out of vanilla calls

[tidal patrol]

nah it's another null ref from localplayercontroller*

which is annoying because like, that should never be null

[fickle rapids]

lol

[tidal patrol]

well, when this method is getting called anyway

[fickle rapids]

wow plugin.spam

what a spammer

[tidal patrol]

yeah that's all my debug logging

why I ask people to turn it on when they have a reproducible issue because i'll find out exactly where shit is breaking

[fickle rapids]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1204432295025578014/1341502065226285129/allroadsleadtodementia.gif

[tidal patrol]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1070704280903897159/1169360061747974244/rapidly_declining_mental_function.gif

[blazing matrix]

Maybe TwoRadarMaps or one of Matty's mods? They have patches for that

I forget which of Matty's mods does it

It's either Lobby Control or Matty Fixes

[tidal patrol]

for the client id? I doubt it (especially from those two). They're pretty smart with their changes not to introduce null values. I'd bet it's more likely some fuckshit going on with vanilla

[blazing matrix]

GI also recently added an option to be able to teleport Radar boosters but GI usually doesn't touch stuff so long as you don't have said thing enabled

So likely not GI

[blazing matrix]

Or Lethal Elements, it does patch the map radar to glitch during Solar Flare

[tidal patrol]

I mean I remember from your pack specifically there was another ClientRpc I had that was reporting a null client id that I added null handling for

so I do think it's def more likely some stuff going on vanilla-wise

[blazing matrix]

Could definitely be though yeah

[tidal patrol]

guessing it was this one 💀

[blazing matrix]

If it's that then that probably is from TwoRadarMaps maybe? 🤔

[tidal patrol]

nah i doubt it's another mod

[blazing matrix]

I also set Monitoring default view to cams in Terminal Stuff

Maybe I pissed it off doing that

XD

[tidal patrol]

lmao I'd hope not

[blazing matrix]

Hehe

[tidal patrol]

do you know when this error happened btw? Or just looking thru logs

[blazing matrix]

It was when he loaded into the lobby he told me

There was an error from BetterEXP, that error, and some errors from AdditionalNetworking

[tidal patrol]

ah, then yeah maybe it was just that my method was called too early

[blazing matrix]

I reported them all just now

lol

[tidal patrol]

context is def important with the error

[blazing matrix]

Ye

[viscid mantle]

In LethalConstellations, when I have ~random~ enabled as the starting constellation with a set list, the ship lever never becomes interactable. Reopening the lobby lets the lever be interacted with, but the ship never lands and can no longer be rerouted.
Testing this same pack without ~random~ on works fine, so it's definitely the issue.
Import Code: 01951daf-4a70-9dd6-439d-b47cf792f708

By the way, its an amazing mod that has totally changed how I play big modpacks and has single-handedly renewed my interest in the game. Thanks for making it :)

[tidal patrol]

could you create a github issue for this so I don't lose track of it? Also if you could grab logs when it happens with these enabled it should be very helpful

this is the github for lethal constellations https://github.com/darmuh/LethalConstellations/issues

i'm guessing it's probably due to some incompat with LLL since it added the lever stuff but would like to be sure

[viscid mantle]

github issue created

[charred tiger]

I have... 103 moons I need to organize into some constellations 🤔

[gaunt timber]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-stare-staring-cat-cat-mr-fresh-fresh-gif-4714710619997780774

How many???

Maximum I had was 60

[charred tiger]

One hundred and three. Moons.

[gaunt timber]

I can read lol

[charred tiger]

I haven't even played the majority of them, so they may get removed after some time 🤷‍♂️

[charred tiger]

Yeah, but I'm being dramatic.
Here, lemme make it even more dramatic

Now it's big 🎉

[gaunt timber]

Atm I have somewhere between 50 and 60 moons

[charred tiger]

Which ones ya got?

[gaunt timber]

Wesley journeys (finished), gorgonzola, catalyst, starlancer's, rosie's anomaly moons, demonmae's nightmare moons, aquatis, sanoradia I don't remember anymore
To the count I included vanilla moons, so it's over 40-50 modded moons

[charred tiger]

How does the wesley journey thing work? I'm unsure 🥺

[gaunt timber]

You mean like unlocking moons?

[charred tiger]

I guess?? I don't really know what the "journey" part of it is, at all

[gaunt timber]

It's just wesley moons but named "Wesley journeys" or whatever with roguelike mechanics, you start at galetry and the rest you figure out yourself

[charred tiger]

Fascinating 👁👁

Maybe will do that sometime. For now though, I need to figure out how I'm going to organize these moons and constellations.

[gaunt timber]

What's your moon list in short
103 moons excluding 26 from wesleys moons is a pretty big collection 👀

[charred tiger]

Vanilla
Generic moons
Harvest moons
Tolian's
Rosie's
Moons of Otherworldly Oddity
Nightmare Moons

And a few other individuals

[gaunt timber]

I see

[charred tiger]

Gonna try to split them up into 8-10 constellation 🤔

And then.... interiors ☠️

[gaunt timber]

I dont even remember how many interiors I have
Wesley's, all demonmae's interiors and storage complex for sure

[blazing matrix]

Edifice is nice but really needs tile variety

[gaunt timber]

I know

[blazing matrix]

When I got it on Ultimatum earlier it really showed how much it lacks tiles

[gaunt timber]

One of the reasons I removed it temporarily

[blazing matrix]

Got a bunch of jump gap tiles on there

Yeah

it's a fantastic interior just needs Jade to return and work on it

[gaunt timber]

Mhmm

Do you know any other vanilla styled interiors like edifice, storage complex or subsystems?

[blazing matrix]

Generic's Storehouse

Dantors Mental Hospital

[gaunt timber]

Oh right the storehouse, then there are no more interiors that I dont know about lol

[blazing matrix]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Dantor/Dantors_Mental_Hospital/ This one is an og that always was vanilla feeling

[gaunt timber]

I heard it's loot density is kinda bad

[blazing matrix]

Idk if that is still the case

I haven't played with it as of it's update but iirc Dantor made efforts to improve it

[gaunt timber]

I probably add it back and give it a try
I missed it

[charred tiger]

I am going to go through hell organizing my moons into various constellations, and then balancing interior spawns on them ☠️

[gaunt timber]

I wanted to organize them too, but since wesley moons updated (like a month ago) I scrapped the idea
All balancing I did on LQ, scrap, entities, interiors and size, adjusted difficulty, etc.

I'm proud of what I created but it still needs balancing
To constellation sorting maybe I return at later date because of better moon price adjusting than LQ handles

[odd thunder]

Wait what

Since when was dantor back

That's crazy

[lavish blaze]

Couldnt reproduce with 5 local instances, might be only reproductible in online mode 😩 . Will attempt to get logs next time I play with a 5 people group.

[austere pulsar]

StorePlus is not working for me, it just shows the vanilla store

01952488-0a71-ff54-0362-bd52e76fce96

Also, could you add the possibility to change the keybinds like suitsTerminal? I like using WASD more than using arrows.

[tidal patrol]

seems one of your purchasepack items (unlockable upgrade) is causing this to report out of index https://github.com/darmuh/TerminalStuff/blob/1263f9a12e80aaad0acce00c51555927fc411ac1/DarmuhsTerminalCommands/SpecialStuff/Store/StorePacks.cs#L383

I thought my check at the top would stop that though lol. Maybe I need to check for negative numbers as well

[tidal patrol]

this is planned for all menus yes

oh even more interesting, you have the default purchase packs setup 😵 Essentials:pro,shov,walkie;PortalPack:teleporter,inverse

and it's disabled 💀

I'll have to look into that lmao

[austere pulsar]

Oh yeah I don't use purchase packs

[tidal patrol]

fyi you'll need to wait for wesley's moons update to add a config option to disable journey mode in order for constellations to work. They added a script which disables my ability to show/hide & lock/unlock any of their moons

I've heard that maybe using the individual moons rather than the whole pack of them may also work but I haven't tested myself

[tidal patrol]

i'm curious if the error you're experiencing will go away if you enable it

[austere pulsar]

Will try

[tidal patrol]

if it does fix it, then you can try setting PurchasePackCommands to blank so that no purchasepacks actually get added

[austere pulsar]

Nope, still not working

[tidal patrol]

unlucky

yeah idk why you're getting that error. I'll have to test my dev branch on your profile at some point

i'm like halfway thru terminalstuff's refactor lol

[austere pulsar]

no worries, take your time

[tidal patrol]

:)

[tidal patrol]

migrating storeplus now

[heavy mural]

what is this 👆 and that 👆 thing listed as in ship colors

oh wait I found the google doc that's on the mod page that tells me all that. nevermind

[earnest sundial]

store aint workin

i type in store and it just doesnt go to it

[tidal patrol]

logs pls

[earnest sundial]

sure give me a second

[earnest sundial]

^^^

wait holdup

a lot of stuff is fucked up

its an issue with me i think

[earnest sundial]

the issue was weather registry's new update

completely fucked like 10 mods

disabled all 8 screens on mod, messed with your termianl mod, set my quota to be 7 days, made it start on day 0, ect

really weird

[tidal patrol]

💀

[silk olive]

🤭

[hollow zodiac]

is there a way to change the names of the constellations

like constellation canyon, constellation marsh, ect

never mind I think I figured it out

[tidal patrol]

just in case youre still looking for that answer, it's this config item in the Setup section

[hollow zodiac]

ah thank you

[hollow zodiac]

I'm a bit confused? it says it'll reset the generated config but it doesn't seem to be doing that

and I'm not exactly sure how rename them since there wasn't a default example listed

[tidal patrol]

it should any time you change that setting

you can always just delete the generated config if its not resetting

[hollow zodiac]

ah I see now

might've been gale trying to refresh it

[hollow zodiac]

Is there a way to change the default text color in the terminal mod?

[sweet otter]

yes it's under Terminal Customization

[hollow zodiac]

is there an option to change the price color for store plus

the "affordable color" & "not enough creds color" doesn't change it

[modern wing]

Pretty sure it only changes on item basis, not total cost.

[tidal patrol]

Yep, currently the two color options are for each item. I'll add a subtotal color config item in the next update. It's taking a minute because I've been busy lately and when I do have the time to work on it I hit a few snags in the new systems I'm implementing

[hollow zodiac]

ah okay

[charred tiger]

Daaarmuh 🥺
I appreciate you 🙏🏻

[fickle rapids]

Daaarmuh 😡

I hate you 👎

[tidal patrol]

[fickle rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/silly-cat-silly-car-car-stare-10-thousand-yard-stare-10-thousand-yard-gif-14200271775968563996

[tidal patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/gliznorp-alien-cat-bald-green-gif-7415781222793666173

[charred tiger]

Darmuuh

[earnest sundial]

gonna use this mod

loooks sick

[hollow zodiac]

do updates reset configs

or certain parts of them

[hollow zodiac]

is there an easier way to customize the "home text art" for the terminal

[sweet otter]

if u want to do ascii art and have visual studio u can input the ascii art in a string and it inputs all the lines breaks n stuff automatically

(string whatever = "ascii art here")

[tidal patrol]

which one? This thread is for like 5 mods

[tidal patrol]

Depends on the update but generally you should be good. I usually try to put a note in the changelog if configs are gonna be reset anywhere

[hollow zodiac]

Ah

[earnest sundial]

Suitsterminal

My fault lols

[hazy mural]

Would it be possible to add an actual map to this? Like a simple 2d spiral symbol that uses the existing coordinate system to plot it on the map using an invisible grid and adding a selection system that automatically jumps to each added symbol, then creating some decals for each symbol like a gas giant, Black Hole, Nebula, And solar system I feel it would be intuitive and (probably) easy to implement as well

Also just as a side note the Constellation Info Text message in the config is wrong its using the text to explain ConstellationWord

[tidal patrol]

As batby mentioned in the old thread, it's not a very simple thing to implement. I do plan on doing something like this eventually but I don't have anything ready for the immediate future

Also just as a side note the Constellation Info Text message in the config is wrong its using the text to explain ConstellationWord

Could you elaborate on this btw? I'm not sure what you mean

[charred tiger]

Me when Darmuh mods

(They're good mods)

[blazing matrix]

Oh so this is a you issue

Why did it only start happening for me today?

XD

[tidal patrol]

to be fair, it's actually a ship inventory issue (since it's only ship inventory's upgrade that does this)

it's more that i need to add a fix explicitly for it (in store plus) in a similar way to how mrov's terminal formatter does it

which is basically looking for the specific upgrade and excluding it

[gleaming beacon]

is their an easier way to empty the storage. after a reset i have persistent decoration mods but it stores all my stuff. typing each item is a annoying. is their a way in this mod or even another that makes storage abit easier to empty. similar to the menuing of shopplus where its just a arrow enter arrow enter to select

[tidal patrol]

nothing currently in any of my mods. Might be something I can implement in the future

[gleaming beacon]

gotcha thanks. figured id ask here first since this is the main terminal mod i use and i like how the shop works. kk ill search elsewhere for now ♥

[tidal patrol]

yeah something like the shop, but for storage, might take a bit of time. However I think a "remove all from storage" command shouldnt be too difficult

[gleaming beacon]

i mean honestly a persistance mod that left stuff where it was would be nicer lol but only one i found only works vanilla. remove all isnt a bad idea though

store all wouldnt be too bad either though i doubt it would be used often outside of ship clean up

[tidal patrol]

yeah the persistence thing sounds up furniture locks' alley tbh

[gleaming beacon]

its crazy how many mods iv looked at like im in newly updated constantly, searching or sorts of stuff and not only have i nver seen that mod its recently updated so it would be in new lol. ill check it out. evne if it stores it on reset if removing it puts it back in same spot thats still a massive time save

[tidal patrol]

I've seen it used for a while in Lunxara's profile. It lets you lock furniture items to specific positions and stuff

[gleaming beacon]

ya goona test it out

that also pulls out of storage cool

well means i dont need any terminal changes huge!

though...terminal storage still is a pain in the butt without this mod

[tidal patrol]

if you want you can throw me a github issue to request the feature so I don't forget it in the future lol

[gleaming beacon]

ya i can look into that later for sure its still a cool idea to have better storage in general.

ooh you know what.furniture lock DOES save locations even of modded items. BUT its pull all from storage button at least atm from 5m of looking at it. only seems to pull out unmodded stuff. still huge with persistant locations though

[tidal patrol]

nice!

[gleaming beacon]

not perfect bute huge alright im off for a bit thanks for the help darmuh as always one of the best mod makers

[tidal patrol]

looks like this is their thread if you wanna report the pull all issue - https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1299278275952119808

[hollow zodiac]

will there be a help page plus where I can use the arrow keys to navigate through everything like moons, store, bestiary, storage, other, constellations, ect

[charred tiger]

Would it be possible to allow manual organization of store items?

[solid wharf]

random thought, but ship colors could be configured in-game if you use a custom pass to render each object with a unique color into a render texture and sample the center to implement a renderer raycast

I wonder how hard that would be to set up

there's probably tutorials for it tbh, but I'm not sure how involved it is

really it would be even better if each submesh had a different color, but that might be a little trickier

[tidal patrol]

maybe later down the line when I've got the other menus in a good state. Would probably be something like menus

[tidal patrol]

I think if anything I might add a priority items list that you can force to the top of the listing

[tidal patrol]

uhhh, it's already configurable in-game with lethal config? Do you mean like rather than using a reference to the material (and it's color property) itself?

you're welcome to take a look and suggest a PR (or make your own fork if you prefer that)

[solid wharf]

yeah, I mean making it so that you can select a color and then just click on stuff to apply it

in scene

[tidal patrol]

ohhhhhh, like a paint gun

that's kinda sick actually

[sweet otter]

spray paint

[solid wharf]

definitely not something I can do in the near future, just thought it might spark your imagination

kinda paint gun but it would work like your config options where it affects the whole material

just a convenient way to select an object to change really

[sweet otter]

fill bucket

[solid wharf]

yuh

[tidal patrol]

hmmm, I mean yeah that would be pretty cool but def would still need to work within my current system to save configs for lobby reloads and whatnot

I wouldn't know where to start for something like that though

[sweet otter]

throwing shit at the wall

[solid wharf]

hmm okay I guess this is a less common solution than I thought

tried to find someone implementing this online and a couple cursory searches didn't come up with anything relevant

only relevant thing I found was this, but it costs unfortunately https://assetstore.unity.com/packages/tools/physics/super-raycast-91154

and I believe it also doesn't use the solution I was thinking of, not that it's necessarily better or worse

anyway just a random thought, maybe you will find some info on it yourself if you are interested

[tidal patrol]

have a lot i'm still working on so probably won't pursue anything in the near future

[solid wharf]

oh for sure, I didn't really expect so

[nocturne pike]

Hey @tidal patrol , so me and my gf been trying together, 1 time per 10 tries she manages to join but or else there always an issue relating to unknown compatibility with openlib. Just wanted to know if this has a solution or not

[tidal patrol]

I would triple check you both have the exact same mods installed. If you do, please provide logs from the both of you

[clear spindle]

I see you're refactoring it so idk if this is covered yet, but changes to a moon's difficulty in LQ dont apply in the Moons Plus page, it uses whatever the default moon difficulty is set to
Stuff like the routing price works fine though

(Also ty for the Ghostcodes Death note interactive menu thing, works great, cant remember if i thanked you already for that addition)

[tidal patrol]

huh, yeah not sure why my method doesnt detect changes from LQ. I'm pulling it from the vanilla riskLevel property that is tied to the selectable level. I guess i'd have to look into what LQ is modifying specifically

And yeah np for the death note menu update, that'll probably get updated at some point to the new refactored menu as well

[tidal patrol]

on another note, realizing I need to update my ship inventory compat for my loot related commands to use the new guid from ShipInventoryUpdated

from one of the latest patch notes, the issue of two ship inventories showing up in storeplus appears to have been fixed in that version of the mod

[clear spindle]

Interestingly, i just also found that upon routing to the moon, it THEN corrects itself to the actual difficulty level, even if you load another terminal screen or route elsewhere

Like rn offense is "B"

And now its A- lol

[clear spindle]

Wait, Experimentation just switched back to B...

i suppose it does forget then

[tidal patrol]

I peeped LethalQuantities' github and tbh I still am not 100% sure what they're doing with the risklevel property. My menu grabs the risklevel every time the menu text updates so if that mod is changing anything and it's supposed to stick, then my display should be reading it properly. Hopefully the issue fixes itself in the refactor haha

[limber hawk]

im here for the from constellations

[dusk veldt]

I'm here for the constipations

[wild atlas]

Oh, I know that one

Lethal Quantities change the moon values ONLY on the moon you are rn

If you move to another moon, the previous moon gets changed to original

so the difficulty changes back to the normal one

[clear spindle]

Thats moon prices i am sure
Each moon has different route prices to other ones
Difficulty is the same as description and other values though, its global for the moon

Without Darmuhs, all the moon difficulties match up with LQ config for that moon whether you are there or not

That is both with and without TerminalFormatter

[wild atlas]

that's on all values as I've seen cuz these values changes per moon where you orbit.
When I used this mod months ago (pretty sure still on the latest update) I had this same issue, reason why I stopped changing the difficutly directly on LQ

[clear spindle]

yeah, for me difficulty and other info stays consistent no matter where you are routed despite LQ changes

Is there an alternative to LQ for just changing the moon difficulty level?

[wild atlas]

CentralConfig

[clear spindle]

Cant see it in LLL
And i refuse to use CC

[clear spindle]

Damm

[wild atlas]

understandable

I think you can only active the difficulty and misc changes on CC

in case you at least wanna check it without enabling the most gamebreaking ones

cuz, speaking honestly that mod is not That bad

It worked for me when I wanted to use it

[clear spindle]

Damm, i will just wait until Darmuh's updates then
In any case i have a temporary workaround, which is just to keep the moonplus page only accessible via moonsplus and not moons, so players can opt into trying it
And i just foreworn them that moonsplus doesnt show accurate difficulties yet
Once its fixed i will then make it replace moons

[clear spindle]

I am quite strongly against it because it goes out of its way to override WeatherRegistry's stuff, without an option to opt out of that
Just nukes WR scrap value stuff and insists you use it's own config instead

[wild atlas]

oh, there was no way to disable that?

there is*

oof

welp, I don't know if there is another mod

[clear spindle]

Nope

unless they changed it more recently

0.16.1 changelog says it accepted the WR pr, so it might actually be fixed now

[wild atlas]

oh, that's good
I stopped using the mod when Wesley's Moons update got released

so I'm not sure about the latest updates

[fickle rapids]

@silk olive @tidal patrol @vague socket you guys mess with the terminal the most so i just wanna make sure of something.

there is a scenario where i change an unlockable's name to change the display name in the terminal, i also patch a method that checks what the player wrote to replace the node inputted with another that just has some text in it, im wondering if this is gonna play fine with any of yall's mods? (so far seemed fine with LLL as far as i could tell but u can never be too sure)

relevant code:

    private static void Terminal_LoadNewNodeIfAffordable(On.Terminal.orig_LoadNewNodeIfAffordable orig, Terminal self, TerminalNode node)
    {
        Plugin.ExtendedLogging($"Node's shipUnlockableID: {node.shipUnlockableID}");
        Plugin.ExtendedLogging($"Shockwave Gal's shipUnlockableID: {UnlockableHandler.Instance.ShockwaveBot.ShockWaveBotUnlockable.unlockable}");
        
        if (node.shipUnlockableID != -1 && StartOfRound.Instance.unlockablesList.unlockables[node.shipUnlockableID] == UnlockableHandler.Instance.ShockwaveBot.ShockWaveBotUnlockable.unlockable)
        {
            Plugin.ExtendedLogging($"Twas equal, replacing with deny purchase node with a name: {UnlockableHandler.Instance.ShockwaveBot.ShockWaveBotUnlockable.unlockable.unlockableName}");
            if (UnlockableHandler.Instance.ShockwaveBot.ShockWaveBotUnlockable.unlockable.unlockableName == "???")
            {
                UnlockableHandler.Instance.ShockwaveBot.ShockWaveBotUnlockable.unlockable.unlockableName = "SWRD-1";
            }
            else
            {
                UnlockableHandler.Instance.ShockwaveBot.ShockWaveBotUnlockable.unlockable.unlockableName = "???";
            }
            orig(self, UnlockableHandler.Instance.ShockwaveBot.denyPurchaseNode);
            return;
        }
        orig(self, node);
    }

[silk olive]

I'll try to check that tomorrow, but I'm 80% certain the unlockable name change might not work with TF

since I'm caching all of those at startup

[tidal patrol]

is there a specific reason you need to change it at runtime?

[fickle rapids]

unlockable ship upgrades

[tidal patrol]

ahhh gotcha, is the unlockable element a pay type thing or something else?

[fickle rapids]

wdym?

[tidal patrol]

like is it just supposed to be a standard unlockable or unlocked in a unique way

[fickle rapids]

oh, i mean all ship upgrades are a pay type thing, thats the default.

im having it where i make the player do a specific task, whether it be scanning something specific and whatnot, which sets the specific UnlockableItem to be unlocked on my end and depending on whether its locked or not, I change what it says on the terminal in points like ship saving and loading into lobby

[tidal patrol]

yeah that's what I was wondering if it was like a unique unlock type

it will kinda be hard for me and mrov's store stuff to detect your changes I think

[fickle rapids]

i mean ideally i wanted the thing to be out of the terminal completely rather than a redacted name like ??? but i couldnt figure out how to hide it.
im assuming the name change is the only thing you guys would have issues with me

[tidal patrol]

I'll have to think about it a bit more tho, just first glance thoughts yknow?

[fickle rapids]

yee

[tidal patrol]

ya I get where you're coming from

I think if you didnt want it to exist until it was unlocked you could add the terminal node later, but then idk if our stuff would detect the new store item. I know vanilla would tho

[fickle rapids]

ah i use LethalLib for adding the unlockables so I'd have to do a lot of base engineering in that way 🙃

[tidal patrol]

its honestly not too hard to do on your own tbh

but yeah I know lethallib makes it easier

[fickle rapids]

adding another hand into the terminal jar would be one of the last thing i'd wanna do tbh lmao

[tidal patrol]

thats totally fair LOL

[fickle rapids]

worst case scenario i have to settle for being unable to change the name, my system would still work (Assuming my patch to AttemptLoadNewAffordableNode works with you guys' mods 💀)

[tidal patrol]

yeah if I think of anything i'll let you know

ideally you'd be able to do something with the vanilla terminal to indicate your unlockable is locked or whatever

but yeah gotta think about it

[fickle rapids]

🙏 if it doesnt work and you ever get something for me to soft compat to like refresh the terminal buyable list or smthn like that i'd be totally fine with doing that

[tidal patrol]

yeah i'd just hate for you to have to do soft compat with a bunch of diff mods

honestly if not for vanilla, the other ideal would be something in lethallib would cater to special unlock conditions

but idk if lethallib is actively maintained anymore

[fickle rapids]

not entirely, i can have hamunii do PR's but that's about it, none of the current maintainers afaik are really interested in doing anything themselves

[tidal patrol]

yeah and I get it lol

also as far as the name specifically, I can add a check at runtime to see if my cached name is different from the one at run time and update it

i doubt it'd be that much of a performance diff

[fickle rapids]

that would be amazing

also i hope having the same display text in the terminal is fine

i noticed that the usage keyword didnt change after i changed the name so i assume theres no problem

[tidal patrol]

yeah that shouldnt be an issue i dont think

[fickle rapids]

aight

[tidal patrol]

I'll let you know if i think of anything else

[odd thunder]

is it still planned to fix the issue of OneTimePurchase from moons plus applying even when set false?

[tidal patrol]

yeah I have it fixed in dev branch, just holding on a bunch of more changes that are still WIP

[odd thunder]

gotcha gotcha

[silk olive]

hmmm, would not adding the unlockable/terminalnode to the vanilla arrays (until it's unlockable) solve that?

that would fuck up even more things tho

hmm

I'm gonna think of something that's gonna be toggleable on my end

[fickle rapids]

🙏

at the minimum just support for changing the names of the words in the terminal at runtime would be nice

(assuming it doesnt exist already, i wouldnt know, havent tested)

[silk olive]

will check and let you know

if you are really bored, could you check if modyfing https://github.com/AndreyMrovol/LethalMrovLib/blob/main/MrovLib%2FContentManager.cs#L54-L57 (BuyableThing.Name) changes the name for Terminalformatter?

[fickle rapids]

is BuyableThing your own thing in TerminalFormatter?

[silk olive]

it's a thingy in MrovLib, yes

[fickle rapids]

ill try to see if i have time to do that tonight, currently working on a lot of stuff with rodrigo lol, this whole unlockable thing was just a tiny part of what i've done already tonight

[fickle rapids]

just got around to actually testing it and it works perfectly fine with darmuhsterminalstuff (on default settings anyway)

works with terminalformatter too @silk olive

(didnt test standalone, tested with both darmuhs stuff and yours together, only LAN didnt check multiplayer)

[silk olive]

that's amazing

😇

[tidal patrol]

thats awesome! I figure storeplus might have some issues like being able to select the item with the name "???" since storeplus bypasses LoadNewNodeIfAffordable. I still gotta think of a creative way to handle that. Worst case scenario I make something public for you to influence storeplus with soft compat

[fickle rapids]

You've got time to think about it, there's still maybe a few weeks before I'm able to implement the dozen new mechanics rodrigo wants

[tidal patrol]

haha gotcha, I appreciate the heads up

[vapid snow]

I'm currently trying to set up a purchase pack with ship upgrades
ShipStart:inverse teleporter,signal,teleporter,welcome,loud,cozy

But I'm running into a funny problem with another mod. I have whitespike's portable teleporter mod installed and anytime I purchase this pack, I end up ordering one of those instead of the ship teleporter.

Appreciate any advice on how to get the right teleporter to be bought

[tidal patrol]

sorry yall I've kinda been taking a small break from lethal modding

[tidal patrol]

I'm not sure why portable teleporter is taking priority over the regular teleporter

@modern wing off the top of your head do you know what the upgrade name is called for portable teleporter? I feel like the regular teleporter would get picked first in this case https://github.com/darmuh/TerminalStuff/blob/1263f9a12e80aaad0acce00c51555927fc411ac1/DarmuhsTerminalCommands/SpecialStuff/Store/StorePacks.cs#L345

[modern wing]

Portable is an item?

[tidal patrol]

Also, @vapid snow it'd help to have you turn on the developer logging stuff and provide some logs.

[modern wing]

[tidal patrol]

oh LMAO, yeah that changes things

yeah okay. That makes a lot more sense

name would partially match here https://github.com/darmuh/TerminalStuff/blob/1263f9a12e80aaad0acce00c51555927fc411ac1/DarmuhsTerminalCommands/SpecialStuff/Store/StorePacks.cs#L283

and skip the unlockable part

so def a me-issue to figure out 🙃

I could prob change Contains to StartsWith, since most people will be using the first 3 letters of an item name usually for these sorta things

that or I can add indicators for whether something is an item or an unlockable to specify in the config item

[vapid snow]

Howdy, sorry I was busy. Still need a log?

[tidal patrol]

I'm pretty sure I know what the cause is now so we should be good. Sorry for the double ping

[vapid snow]

More than okay, best of luck fixing the issue. No pressure tho, especially if you’re taking a break

[wild atlas]

Hi darmuh!
Uhm...
I'm still unable to land on the moon when setting up a starting moon that it's not Experimentation :,]

on LethalConstellations

[tidal patrol]

sorry I still have no idea why that is happening

my guess is some issue between LLL's lever code and my startup code, but I admit I haven't looked into it much

[wild atlas]

oof :,]
No issues man

[tidal patrol]

I'll look into it at some point, but I'm ngl I was kinda hoping the issue would fix itself at some point as LLL gets updated

[wild atlas]

yeah, I hoped that too :,]

[fickle rapids]

use LLLHotReloadablePatch

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/dopadream/LLLHotreloadPatch/

it's an LLL issue

[wild atlas]

I have that, still unable

[fickle rapids]

oh

that is odd

is the lever just un-interactable?

[wild atlas]

yup

[fickle rapids]

huh

yeah not sure then

[wild atlas]

only when the starting moon is not experimentation (a thing that Constellations let you do)

[fickle rapids]

ic, weird

[tidal patrol]

yeah and LethalConstellations doesn't do anything too crazy. This is the relevant code https://github.com/darmuh/LethalConstellations/blob/b299b0399a5077823d87d3484f0769c30370e74e/LethalConstellations/PluginCore/SaveManager.cs#L91

it uses the following vanilla method to change the level - StartOfRound.Instance.ChangeLevelServerRpc

I have a feeling it might be LLL is not fully initialized when the level is changed or something, especially since that vanilla method works when changing the level later on

[wild atlas]

LethalMoonUnlocks Moon change when starting when enabling the DiscoveryMode works btw

idk why, but you may check the code if possible

[tidal patrol]

yeah that'll be a good reference point

[wild atlas]

take your time man, I'll set again the starting moon on Experimentation atm lol

[odd thunder]

i got this issue as well, i don't use lethal constellations, i have hot reload patch, everything i can think of

it can be fixed if you reset your interact triggers with testaccountfixes

[wild atlas]

hmm

[odd thunder]

(should specify, it happened in a similar situation, i started a new save and routed to sector 0 for testing)

[peak bison]

hi, anyone know why i see all the default moons when i go to the exomoons catalogue instead of seeing the ones from my constellations? ):

[sterile mica]

@tidal patrol not really a bug report but
are you familiar with any mods that are compatible with lethalconstellations that let you also fix the moon order?

i want my moon list to look like this but LLL keeps messing it up

i tried making the difficulties scale accordingly (D,C,C+ / B-,B,B+ / A,S,S+) but some of the moons are still stuck in their positions

like sierra keeps going above every other moon and veld keeps going below reign

also some of them just dont connect correctly

[wild atlas]

Hello!
I noticed something when playing with a friend.
For my modpack I wanted to add the MoonsPlus with the Filter by affordability.
But that option cannot be enabled by default.
So I usually enable it on the filtering option.
The issue is that, when I add this option, it's only enabled by me

But the other players will not have that option enabled, so they will see the moons even if it's not affordable

If it's possible, please add an option to add the filter on by default :,}

[fickle rapids]

sorry to be that guy but @tidal patrol i know in darmuhs terminal stuff the lever can be forcibly (i think anyway) pulled, if i disable the interact trigger does that stop your terminal from being able to pull it

i personally prefer being allowed to brute force the lever since mods like infected company actually only work with your mod because infected company has a broken lever issue lol, but i have a REALLY good reason why i cant allow the player to pull the lever to head back into orbit

[tidal patrol]

I have a bit of things I check for that you can set, but I'm not sure if disabling the interact trigger will stop it

this is what I check for -> https://github.com/darmuh/TerminalStuff/blob/1263f9a12e80aaad0acce00c51555927fc411ac1/DarmuhsTerminalCommands/CommandHandling/ShipControls.cs#L269

[fickle rapids]

well i cant exactly make the networkManager null as much as i'd want to

[tidal patrol]

and then this is the enum https://github.com/darmuh/TerminalStuff/blob/1263f9a12e80aaad0acce00c51555927fc411ac1/DarmuhsTerminalCommands/CommandHandling/ShipControls.cs#L283

[tidal patrol]

lol yeah I was thinking maybe you could set travelingtonewlevel as true?

if that's not gucci then I think you can also force the command disabled

[fickle rapids]

you reckon that'll break the moon you're currently on? im disabling interaction while landed

[tidal patrol]

until I add something on my end to check for the trigger

[tidal patrol]

i'm not 100% sure but I dont recall the game checking that property much outside of routing in orbit

[fickle rapids]

hmm then it's probably fine as i can reset it back in a moon object's OnDestroy

ill let you know if i break your mod

[tidal patrol]

yeah sorry, in hindsight the command should probably check if the trigger is interactable

[fickle rapids]

nono

the command is perfect

it's the only reason infected company is playable

[tidal patrol]

lmao all good, i'm doing a fine job breaking it myself

[fickle rapids]

cuz in infected company the lever is not interactable and i have no idea why but yeah

[tidal patrol]

huh, yeah I haven't played with that mod before

[fickle rapids]

great, my next update will come knocking at you in a few ways minimum i hope

it's a bit of an old unmaintained one, but always fun when it works

[tidal patrol]

yeah I saw you got a big patch coming

[fickle rapids]

rodrigo calls it a bug fix, it's slightly more, if i break your stuff ill show you what's breaking it

[tidal patrol]

hahaha that's fair

did you ever end up using the terminalaccessibleobject stuff I sent you?

[fickle rapids]

been on the back burner since rodrigo needs to animate stuff to make em "disabled" temporarily, but i have it saved somewhere for a side update at some point, probably

[tidal patrol]

all good, was just curious if any of it had issues LOL

[fickle rapids]

oh no idea lmaoo

[tidal patrol]

I still haven't gotten around to using it in anything of mine

[tidal patrol]

yeah the filters are client-sided. In the refactor I do plan on adding a config option for default filter settings

not sure I want to network changing the filters tho, since it's a personal thing

[wild atlas]

thanks!

[wild atlas]

maybe not a network thing, but at least adding an option to be enabled by default

[grizzled briar]

Anyone know how I am supposed to do this? I am confused on how to make constellations

[grizzled briar]

I found out the constellations but did anyone figure out that experimentation lever bug?

[flint basin]

Hey all, just got acquainted with these mods and they are pretty epic, especially TerminalStuff and GhostCodes!

I have noticed a couple small issues with TerminalStuff that I would like to mention:

• In the menu configs, the \r characters do not work and cause the text to overlap with itself and just be a garbled mess. If these are replaced with \n they work fine

• If a shop edit mod is used to change shop prices, the Cruiser is listed as 370 credits even if its price is changed

• Some custom packs like the premade “essentials” do not have their contents listed on the buy page

[warped stone]

dunno if this from ship colors

should I ignore?

[blazing matrix]

LightningSpriteSheetMaterial2, LightningSpriteSheetMaterial3 add these to the GenBannedMaterials entry

[warped stone]

maybe I should do the same for materiallbsh?

[earnest sundial]

Why is all my text funky?

I thought I put it in right, I had a \r and everything at the end of each line

[flint basin]

Use \n instead of \r

[sweet otter]

\r doesn't move to the next line

[flint basin]

The default configs have \r which is confusing. The welcome screen is broken out-of-box and you have to change things to \n

[sweet otter]

default config uses enter to go to the next line instead of \n

from what i can tell

\r there for the participation trophy

[flint basin]

Maybe they are just fragile, I modified them to not have color changes but still have \r, and they were broken

There were some lines I left as default and they were still broken

Maybe I missed something

Either way \n fixed things

[sweet otter]

shrug

\r should be just moves to the start of the current line

\n should be start of next line

[flint basin]

\r is good if you want to make garbled text

[earnest sundial]

ty

Type HELP for a list of standard commands.\n
Type STORE for a list of gadgets in stock.\n
Type SUITS for a list of suits in stock.\n
Type VITALS for a list of the crew's vitals.\n
Type CHUTE for a list of the chute's inventory.\n
Type SCAN for a list of all scrap nearby.\n
Type BIOSCAN for a list of non-homosapien life.\n
Type RDR for a high-quality view.\n
Type BDYCM for a high-quality view.\n
Type [ERROR] Mantif Laboratory files unavailable.\n

I had a LOT there

[regal sky]

accidentally asked a question in old shipcolors thread, might've gotten it solved but still got smth i need to ask about (yeah i managed it yippee)

I'm trying to colour the wooden floors added by melanie's 2 story ship, I've been able to colour the lil wooden tops of the stairs but the floors elude me

[sweet otter]

i haven't tried with shipwindows beta but it still might be fucked up with that

[regal sky]

showcase of this

But yeah I managed the door frames as you can see here

you ended up being right

though they're a bit bright ingame so i might adjust them a smidge

or change the colour entirely

[blazing matrix]

Just as a fyi I already had the wooden floors darker, ShipWindows overrides the values

[regal sky]

Ah

Well that's annoying

I did notice the stairs were darker on your profile than the rest of the floor

[blazing matrix]

Yeah

Lol

[regal sky]

after realising i couldn't dye the floor

I might just have to deal then

[blazing matrix]

Or you could yank ShipWindows

[regal sky]

I could yank shipwindows either yeah

but pretty skyed box

Okay idk how to properly yank shipwindows i guess because while the wood seems to look fine from the outside when pulling it to test I appear to have found myself with an entire other ship in my ship

I'm just gonna deal with the mismatched wood

[wintry lava]

another person who has encountered this huh

[sweet otter]

probably not accounting that the ship by shipwindows is multiple pieces or something

[regal sky]

oh it's a bug with the shipwindowsbeta compat?

So I'd have to downgrade widership then if I wanted to pull shipwindows, gotcha 👍

[sweet otter]

no thats just my theory

• pretty sure you’d only downgrade stuff if ur using only wider and not 2 story

[blazing matrix]

Oh yeah, I forgot that is a ShipColors thing cus of visibility options

lol

[regal sky]

wait it's shipcolors?

[blazing matrix]

Yes cus ShipWindows replaces the base ship model so when you remove it it changes visibility for the original ship model

[regal sky]

Oh

Yeah that'd. that'd probably do it huh

So if I wanted to kill shipwindows that'd be a hell of a lot more complicated

once again i think i'm just gonna deal with the mismatched wood

[sweet otter]

i dont know if it's that much more complicated

[regal sky]

ig might be an issue of finding the relevant visibility toggles

but that's about it

[earnest sundial]

what does the ghost codes monitor glitch look like

[earnest sundial]

If I has the primary mode set to hauntings, will only the Primary Interactions happen?

[pseudo kelp]

Would....... turning off the ship's horn renderer in shipcolors prevent the horn sfx from coming through when you pull it? I was just trying to have a sleeker looking ship lmao, but I think that's what caused my elusive "horn no workie" bug.

[hardy coyote]

So when I'm using the constellations mod, for some reason it routes me to a diffrent planet then what I type in

[flint basin]

I find having MoonsPlus enabled while still having Vanilla Nodes, it tends to be a bit buggy. Is this how you have it set up? If so, disable the Vanilla Nodes

[gaunt trellis]

question regarding Darmuh's Terminal Stuff: why does stuff we have disabled like the Hacker Tool or Pinger show up in the store, despite us having those disabled?

we have all of these disabled in config, and they still show up

[vapid snow]

Thats on lethal things config not working, not darmuh

[fickle rapids]

I'm pretty sure lethal things does it fine

It's just the way it's done overall is not ideal

But its something to fix on darmuhs end

The issue is that while all the nodes and whatnot don't exist anymore when it's disabled

The item stays on the buyable items list

Because getting rid of items from that list breaks things

I havent figured out a good way to fix being able to disable items from the shop in runtime

If you know darmuh, let me know and maybe we can do an update to LL that'll help this, it's a few mods that suffer from this issue

[flint basin]

I have noticed that Darmuh’s plus menus are bugged and hard to use

Moons Plus makes moons free after being traveled to regardless of configs, so it unfortunately destroys the balance of almost any modpack

[flint basin]

I tested this and cannot get it to work. Either another mod in my pack overrides it or it is not functional

[flint basin]

Mostly yes, if you have a secondary mode set it will generate an additional set of configs for that

[rancid zealot]

I have never seen that

must be a conflict because it surely doesnt happen on my end

[versed spindle]

I had this happen to my group too while playing Wesley’s Moons and a certain overly quacky moon became way too free for our own good

[flint basin]

The other mods I have that change the terminal are GI, ButteryFixes, and LethalFixes, and of them only ButteryFixes changes moon routing by allowing “Gordion” to be typed to route to the Company Building

[covert osprey]

GI also has settings for moons. It may be complicating things.

[covert osprey]

I was wondering why I couldn't get any videos to play on the terminal and later I saw that the video files/folder failed to load. I don't get other helpful messages in or out of game. Typing 'lol' just says "No videos available to play!"

[Info   :   OpenLib] OpenLib is loading with version 0.3.2!
[Info   :   OpenLib] Binding configuration settings
[Info   :   OpenLib] OpenLib load complete!
[Info   :   BepInEx] Loading [darmuhsTerminalStuff 3.8.5]
[Info   :darmuhsTerminalStuff] darmuhsTerminalStuff is loaded with version 3.8.5!
[Info   :darmuhsTerminalStuff] TerminalStuffMain listing initialized
[Info   :   OpenLib] Checking if networking is disabled...
[Warning:darmuhsTerminalStuff] Unable to load video files from path configuration: television-videos```

[flint basin]

Well since Darmuh is away atm there is only so much to be done. I could do extensive debugging on my end and possibly make compromises, but I have bigger fish to fry. I will just be disabling this menu for now

[covert osprey]

Please ignore my above message. I have stupid brain syndrome and named the folder terminal-videos, not television-videos...

Only took me 50 times to notice

[flint basin]

Does anyone know what units the intervals on the GhostCodes mod are using for the configs? I assume seconds but I feel like it is something shorter

[fresh warren]

so when i have a colored ship does the other person also have to have the same color or no?

or is it host only

[rancid zealot]

99% mods arent host only

at best only the host can see the color of the ship im pretty sure

at worst players who dont have the mod cant join

[covert wolf]

any chance this can be fixed? The name of the moon is too long that it moves everything

also any chance you can add some command to add credits?

[wild atlas]

Afaik that's TerminalFormatter, not Darmuh's mod

[covert wolf]

aaaaha might be sorry and thanks 🙂

[covert osprey]

For colours, once I hit Generate Webpage, do I close the game and go looking for the folder, or do I keep everything open?

[wild atlas]

Never used webpage, I don't know :']

[covert osprey]

Ohh...does it matter? First time trying this out :o

[sick glen]

🌟 Feature Requests for Store Plus & Moons Plus

Request 1: Show Item Count in Store Plus

• Add a config option that displays how many of a specific item are already on the ship when using Store Plus.

Example: If I already have 5 walkie-talkies, the store should indicate that "5 walkies are currently on the ship."

Request 2: Improve LateGameUpgrades Integration
Enhance compatibility with LateGameUpgrades so that:

• Late-game upgrade options do not require clicking "Other" in the store.
• Late-game upgrades should have their own dedicated section in the store menu. Also it should also display LateGameUpgrade contracts, which currently do not appear there.

Request 3: Better Visual Highlighting & Blacklisting Moons & Items in Moons/Store Plus

• When using the Moons Plus option to select which moon appears first, the selected moon should be highlighted green (like the company option currently is).
  The Company option should unhighlight itself when another moon is selected.
• Also add the option to hide/blacklist moons & shop items via a config

Example: If "Galetry" is selected, it should appear in green, while the company option is no longer highlighted and or have the option to blacklist from the moons.

P.S. Also "Offense" is not position correctly in the list of moons in moon plus

[covert osprey]

For colours, is there a cheat sheet for which layers have what or do I just need to check them one-at-a-time/unlock all of them?

[sweet otter]

No cheatsheet but there’s not really a reason to change the default layers

[prime wraith]

why is my moonsplus not showing me all the moons? and only a few

and my LLL custom moon price doesnt work

[flint basin]

The plus menus are buggy, you will probably have to just turn them off

[prime wraith]

aw dang it

for some reason i only have those

how do i fix this?

[flint basin]

Terminal Formatter may be screwing it up

There are supposed to be multiple pages that you change between using your arrow keys

[sick glen]

its actully not that buggy

[flint basin]

From experience:

• StorePlus sometimes does not work and needs you to enter/leave terminal
• MoonsPlus makes moons free despite config being turned off
• Custom Cruiser price is not listed
• Vanilla nodes config is very scuffed

[rancid zealot]

only one of these ive seen is the moon one and that only happened while leaving the server while flying to a moon

and ive usede those menus a ton

[rancid zealot]

ive used these menus plenty and have little to no bugs

[flint basin]

Some of the issues are much more prominent in multiplayer lobbies, it seems this modpack’s networking may have some holes

I have not had some myself but people in my lobby (both client and host) and reproduce them almost on command

[covert osprey]

Good afternoon! (*' - ')/
I get the following error messages when I load up a save file with Ship Colours enabled but there are no apparent issues once I'm in the game. No extra lag (that I can notice), no missing textures, etc.
Should I leave it be or do I need to add something(s) to the blacklist?

[sweet otter]

u can add them to the GenBannedMaterials for it to not happen

I don't think it'll do anything though

LightningSpriteSheetMaterial2, LightningSpriteSheetMaterial3

[covert osprey]

Okie dokie I'll add them just to be safe. Thanks :)

[viral python]

Is it possible to hide store items from storeplus?

[wild atlas]

Yup, check its config

[viral python]

I cant find any option to hide stuff

[dusk patio]

[austere pulsar]

My friend can't move up and down in the suits/ moon plus menu, it makes them go up and down in the terminal history instead

His log:

He figured that he need to do Alt+Tab to fix it

[noble crest]

is there a conflict error withother terminal mods like terminal api?

things like beastiary and such wont open

[raven geyser]

its it possible to make it so you can sort moons by price with moonsplus with the terminal stuff mod?

[flint basin]

I believe there is a sort config

[rich roost]

I want to add modded shop items to this, would it just work if i typed out there name here? for instance: "Essentials:hookgun,hookgun,hookgun"

[strong bluff]

I have this same issue but no commands work, at all

[wary anchor]

Hey yall, im not sure if im just being silly or not but it seems like when trying to add multiple constellations to a moon via the config, only the first constellation listed actually works. Like for example i have "Aridia,Glacia", but it only appears while in the Aridia constellation. Its either that or im misuderstanding how this works lol

[cedar terrace]

hey, with our mod combo it seems the map command is broken

the map on the terminal is a single snapshot of how the map was upon opening it up

it does not update

here's the modlist and a full log

[flint basin]

The dev is MIA right now unfortunately, these mods have several features that have been broken for months

[blazing matrix]

Turn all these off, so you can use the Vanilla View Monitor instead

The Map was based on v69's map, it won't work with v70

[cedar terrace]

ty

[cedar terrace]

i tried this and it disabled the vnaillla view monitor as well

did i do sm wrong?

[blazing matrix]

I think these may also need to be off

[cedar terrace]

will try, ty

[blazing matrix]

Cus it mentions they also count as cams

[cedar terrace]

ooh i think it did the trick

ty

[blazing matrix]

yw

[cedar terrace]

aaand how well does constellations work? havent really tried it, but it looks like its been almost half a year since an update

using malfunctions btw

[frank shell]

id say it works quite well! i still use it all the time

speaking of i actually had a question about it myself, is there any easy way to make a moon appear in all constellations? SOLVED!

and on the opposite side, i have a moon that DOES appear in all constellations for some odd reason, i have it set to only appear on one constellation so i find it a little odd

[cedar terrace]

can someone explain constellations in a bit of eetail to me?

i dont quite get exactly what to do and how to config it, the things it can accomplish

example use cases would be nice too

[wild atlas]

I miss darmuh...
He owes me an update

[flint basin]

We all miss him

[sacred forge]

I miss darmuh ...

[lucid tapir]

Truely a darbruh moment.
-# I'm sorry i had to.

https://tenor.com/view/i-miss-my-wife-tails-i-miss-her-a-lot-sonic-the-hedgehog-snapcube-eggman-gif-27436480

[odd thunder]

waiting patiently for the goat to return

[flint basin]

Was it ever said why they left?

[flint basin]

So it has not

I know they are on hiatus, that much is obvious

[tidal patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/naka-squad-nakasquadyt-repo-repo-game-side-eye-gif-3671325199767991018

[blazing matrix]

Are you returning?

[tidal patrol]

no promises but I'm at least opening the project files to see where I left things 💀

[blazing matrix]

Noice

TerminalStuff needs an update the most tbh lol

Cus all the cam stuff got nuked with V70

[tidal patrol]

it has a lot of uncommitted changes already lmao

[blazing matrix]

Lmao I also noticed it breaks after a lobby reload in some ways

[tidal patrol]

would appreciate a summary of what doesn't work with the latest release

[blazing matrix]

like typing Home just stops working

and it considers it invalid

Otherwise idk what else is broken

[blazing matrix]

Oh yeah compat with TerminalFormatter doesn't work and hasn't for a long time

Whenever a client uses the terminal it just shows the vanilla node

when it syncs

[tidal patrol]

also, i realize terminalstuff has my name in it but all of my mods are MIT licensed so anyone could have forked things if they wanted

[blazing matrix]

Lmao

Tbf I think you've done so much of the coding and rewriting at this point that other devs might not know where to start on forking it

XD

[tidal patrol]

yeah it's a bit spaghetti

[tidal patrol]

you talking about the different plus menus btw?

[blazing matrix]

Lmao tbf you've done code cleanup everytime you've rewrote it so it can't be that bad nowadays

[blazing matrix]

Oh right I forgot the StorePlus and MoonsPlus menus had the bugs they've had for a while

[tidal patrol]

always room for cleanup lol

[blazing matrix]

but nah basically if a client types moons, it will load the vanilla node and not TerminalFormatters, I think Mrov mentioned it's cus his nodes aren't actually nodes

[tidal patrol]

yeah I'm pretty sure the uncomitted changes I have are fixes for those bugs

[blazing matrix]

same goes for Store

or any other terminal page with a node changed

I know you had compat going at one point but idk what you did tbf

lol

[tidal patrol]

oh yeah, might need to ask him to add compat on his side but idk. I think you would just disable the store/moon pages in terminal formatters config right?

[blazing matrix]

I'm unsure if the plus menus sync

[blazing matrix]

to prevent the desyncs? Yeah probably

[tidal patrol]

from a video I was tagged in fairly recently I can confirm the moons one does (so storeplus should as well)

[blazing matrix]

But yeah the cams system broke cus Zeekerss redid the radar

[tidal patrol]

yeah I see zeekers added some stuff

also finally fixed that \n bug I had a patch for

[blazing matrix]

Yeah

lol

I think both your mod and GI had patches for that

[tidal patrol]

yepp

lots of overlap between GI and terminal stuff for obvious reasons

[blazing matrix]

I will say I'm surprised you stuck it out so much longer on the REPO train 😆

[sacred forge]

good to see you bud, I hope you're having a good break <3

no rush doing anything, don't feel obligated to lol

[blazing matrix]

A lot of devs stopped a while ago cus Photon sucks to work with

[sacred forge]

nice seeing you around is all

[tidal patrol]

eh, I find photon pretty easy to work with

but tbh I haven't been doing much modding in general

[blazing matrix]

I will say I played the updates for REPO and Phas recently and I liked Phas's more, I kinda burned out hard on REPO after a couple months and the new update didn't add any new content that made it feel fresh again

Phas's was actually decent after several updates of like

nothing

[tidal patrol]

appreciate you

[blazing matrix]

Fair

[tidal patrol]

The only unity game i've played much of recently is peak lol

[blazing matrix]

Tbh the main complaint I see people say is that the specific version of Photon REPO uses is bad lol, not even that Photon is so much the issue but that it uses Photon Pun

[tidal patrol]

yeah I've seen a bit of that too. I'm just saying it's really easy to mod with

with LC I have to use Evaisa's patcher. With pun I can just hijack a photonview and tell it to send everyone an Rpc method to run. If the clients dont have it they just get a little warning message in their console

[blazing matrix]

Also I never got Peak cus I know Landfall's games have a habit of being something you stream twice and never play again but if it keeps popularity I may grab it sometime

[blazing matrix]

lol

[sacred forge]

i appreciate you too!!! i missed you!!! you're awesome!!!

[tidal patrol]

it's got decent replayability from what I've experienced. A new level gets generated daily and I think some modders (maybe batby) are looking into adding custom level support

[blazing matrix]

I mean tbf I remember Batby was interested in REPO too but it didn't last long so ig we'll see lol

It at least is lasting decently long though which is good

[tidal patrol]

Yeah I mean anyone who mods unity games will always take a peak at what's the new popular game

[blazing matrix]

Ye

[fickle rapids]

From the very start batby expressed 0 desire to mod repo so thats just not true

[blazing matrix]

I thought he had a bit of interest cus he did join the server

[sacred forge]

he saw some of the community members and noped out I think

[odd thunder]

That's what I remember him saying

Also hi darmuh

[sweet otter]

#1 darmuh fan

[tidal patrol]

so uh... what's wrong with it?

[odd thunder]

oh, did you need any other reports of issues

[tidal patrol]

this is quite silly

[fickle rapids]

you know im surprised that doesnt break

[tidal patrol]

yeah it prob got burried but i'd love a nice summary of what the current issues are

[blazing matrix]

I was seeing someone reporting it no longer works

Hmmm

[odd thunder]

ite, i don't know every problem but i'll mention the ones i've gotten

[tidal patrol]

it's because the implementation is simple as hell

[tidal patrol]

maybe something with the tworadarmaps compat?

[blazing matrix]

Possible

Oh wait is it your mod that is also making the default Radar be more zoomed in now compared to Vanilla?

I noticed that it's super zoomed in without TwoRadarMaps

[tidal patrol]

there's a radar zoom setting yeah

[blazing matrix]

but in Vanilla that doesn't happen

[tidal patrol]

but the default should be the same as vanilla default

[blazing matrix]

I'll double check it cus the vanilla values may have been updated

lol

[tidal patrol]

unless zeekers changed that at some point 💀

[blazing matrix]

I think he changed it with V70

to make it be more zoomed out

[odd thunder]

1: moonsplus setting paid moons to free on save reload (already addressed in your dev branch)
2: storeplus adds null entries occasionally (will get an img of what i mean)
3: storeplus doesn't register some furniture/ship upgrades (some of melanie's utility furniture, all of the cooking furniture, lethalphones switchboard don't appear in the shop)

[tidal patrol]

if you feel like it you can play with this setting to find what you think is the default

[blazing matrix]

Looks like the default is 30 now

I was checking TwoRadarMaps

[tidal patrol]

my tworadarmaps reference is version 1.2.0 btw 💀

[blazing matrix]

Yeah 30 looks normal

Yippee

[tidal patrol]

I'll fix the config item default/range 🫡

I'll prob try to update the references to use nuget rather than a bunch of locally saved .dlls 💀

[blazing matrix]

@tidal patrol So was testing the terminal map and noticed it just displays a freeze frame of the radar

[wild atlas]

DARMUH

sup bro :]

missed ya

[wintry lava]

hi darmuh

https://tenor.com/view/dunzi-manul-pallas-cat-stare-cat-stare-gif-11161626219086876167

[tidal patrol]

I'll have to check out my dev branch on your profile because I haven't seen that in my testing

[blazing matrix]

0197fd2a-894f-d912-5f9b-69d1079e78ac

[tidal patrol]

yeah looks to be fine with dev branch of the mod

[blazing matrix]

So it's probably a bug with the live version then

[tidal patrol]

maybe. I also only tested real quick with solo just to see what it looks like

switched between myself and a portable radar

[tidal patrol]

actually, tried it with your synced profile from your server and I see the radar is freezing when I enter the terminal. So will have to figure out what's causing that

[flint basin]

Welcome back Darmuh, I got into your mods (TerminalStuff and GhostCodes) while you were gone, it is cool to see you return before they kick the bucket

[true orchid]

How's LethalConstellations holding on? Any issues?

[wild atlas]

I've not seen issues with that one

[true orchid]

Put all Wesley's moons in their own constellation, but switching to that constellation makes switching to another one essentially not work. It just keeps showing Wesley's moons.

[versed spindle]

Wesley’s moons have a journey mode thing where they appear based on collecting certain items which might affect how this mod hides and shows moons

You might need to disable it

[true orchid]

Unrelated.

Journey mode just hides Wesley moons that you haven't unlocked yet. It doesn't affect vanilla or custom moons.

Not to mention that I don't want to disable that.

Actually, disabling journey mode just makes Wesley moons show up outside its constellation.

[wild atlas]

Actually Related.
Wesley's moons Journey mode affects the hidden/unhidden status on all moons, even WM unrelated.
WM Journey is incompatible with LethalConstellations

And Discovery mode from LethalMoonUnlocks

[grizzled briar]

wait what? Wesley moons effect LethalMoonUnlocks? Is that just for moons from the mod?

[true orchid]

I thought you even used them together before?

Wesley's moons Journey mode affects the hidden/unhidden status on all moons, even WM unrelated.
That's terribly inconvenient.

[wild atlas]

I used it, found out it was incompatible, told Darmuh and he made the statement that it:s incompatible

[true orchid]

[wild atlas]

It affects only the Discovery mode (Unhide/Hide) status.
But the permanent purchases still works on WM

[tidal patrol]

yeah the discovery mode locks down the LLL methods that LethalConstellations uses to hide/unhide moons. Not much I can do on my end about it alone

[modern wing]

Nom nom

[dusk veldt]

i plan to use terminal stuff, but can i use it now or should i wait for an update?

[wild atlas]

you can use it.
90% of the mod works perfectly

[dusk veldt]

what features dont work?

i wanna use the moon/store plus things

[wild atlas]

afaik there is a mod incompatibility with store plus.
I'm not sure what mod causes it

Moon Plus should be good

[flint basin]

Moons Plus has a bug where it will make moons free after visiting them even if the config is disabled. I had to turn it off because it completely destroyed my modpack’s balance

[odd thunder]

known

darmuh said they fixed it in dev branch

[flint basin]

Sounds good, I just was letting it be known

[rugged tree]

Hi, sorry new here. Not sure if this is reported / asked about before, but the radar on the terminal updates at about once every 4-5 secs. While the main monitor is pretty much realtime

I've faced this as host and client both. Any config I can tweak to resolve this?

[tidal patrol]

it's something i'm looking into that was probably introduced with the latest game updates

[blazing matrix]

Btw can we get that SuitsTerminal update that fixes the UnlockableSuit errors?

[tidal patrol]

not sure what errors you're talking about :)

[blazing matrix]

Idk if you have anything else you need to change with it since the mod is pretty stable outside of it erroring for clients

One sec

This error

I would assume it's from SuitsTerminal

[tidal patrol]

do you have more context as to when it happens? Maybe some log messages from before/after?

[blazing matrix]

I think when the client is joining normally

I just see it a lot when clients send me their logs

This is a log from a few days ago

[tidal patrol]

hmmm, yeah could be any mod that is telling the client to wear a suit

[blazing matrix]

When we were helping Xu fix an issue with Oxyde iirc

Maybe an interaction with SuitSaver?

[tidal patrol]

I know there's a few diff options out there which acts as a "suit saver"

GI also has an option like that iirc

[blazing matrix]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Hexnet111/SuitSaver/

Yeah I have GI's off

lol

[tidal patrol]

fair fair

[blazing matrix]

If it is a compat issue between the 2 mods, it's possible you might be able to contact the dev to fix it I think they're still active in here from time to time and they do have a thread

[tidal patrol]

i dont think it'd be a compat issue

just some mod providing the base-game method with a null param

[blazing matrix]

Ahhhh

It would be this mod

[tidal patrol]

I was gonna say you could blame suitsTerminal if you had this set to something

[tidal patrol]

is this from suit saver?

[blazing matrix]

Yeah

So it's probably something Hexnet just needs to fix

[fickle rapids]

this doesnt look like it'd cause any issues

[blazing matrix]

Hmmmm

[fickle rapids]

not the error you were getting anyway

[tidal patrol]

yeah, I don't know what is throwing null

[blazing matrix]

Yeah it's a harmless error from what I can tell

[tidal patrol]

the values they are providing shouldn't be null

[blazing matrix]

Maybe it's a suit mod causing it

[tidal patrol]

but that's the fun thing about modding, sometimes you get null values somehow

[tidal patrol]

yeah I have no idea lol

i've seen issues sometimes where some custom model suits don't work together because they both try to replace the same named suit

but i'm pretty sure your pack doesn't use any custom model suits

[blazing matrix]

Yeah lol

[tidal patrol]

so yeah error is probably originating from suit saver but I wouldn't say it is caused by suit saver

I also don't think suitsTerminal is the cause tho

[blazing matrix]

Yeah probably not

[blazing matrix]

Yeah no, but I will say I did remember one bug with SuitsTerminal that happens to clients sometimes

if you have Terminal History on in GI or Terminal Stuff it sometimes breaks the Suits Terminal

[wild atlas]

hello

[brittle trail]

is there any known reason why the walkie term feature doesn't work - it's making the ptt noises but no speech is picked up when speaking on the terminal

[tidal patrol]

you'd be the first to report issues with this feature. Are you pressing and holding the button when you talk?

[brittle trail]

yeah, i can look into this as much as possible tmr i don't have my pc open rn

i can probably record a test with a friend if that'd be useful

[tidal patrol]

yeah whatever you'd like to provide would be helpful. I haven't seen anything change in lethal's code when it comes to walkie talkies

[brittle trail]

ok, would logs/modpack code be useful to u?

[tidal patrol]

yeah, can't say I'll get around to it quickly tho

[brittle trail]

npnp

[brittle trail]

@tidal patrol ok im pretty sure my friends were just fully wrong and weren't pressing lmb 😭

because its working totally fine rn

[clear spindle]

So, after testing for a while, i managed to narrow down with my group what was causing our modpack to crash upon reloading a lobby every time
We found it is darmuhsTerminalStuff
With it disabled, we can reload lobbies
When enabled, trying to reload a lobby will crash the game whilst loading, no unity window or anything in the log, just abruptly closes
So now its a matter of trying to figure out what exactly in the config would cause it
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I'm gonna first try deleting the config to reset, to see if that fixes it
And then gradually add back my changes to find the culprit

I first suspected it was MoonsPlus maybe doing something weird with LQ messing with moon prices?
But even with MoonsPlus off it was happening

This was also an issue prior to v70+
We only just figured out what it was now

Okay, good news, wiping the config fixed it
So it definitely is just 1 specific config in there that causes it
i will try and find the culprit

[clear spindle]

i've narrowed it down to the "Custom keywords" section. At first i thought it was because i placed a ";" at the end of the last keyword, but even after removing that it still was crashing
So i will try resetting the keywords and see what that does

Something here is causing the crash.

[clear spindle]

I gotta head to work, but it seems that adding ANY keyword here causes the crash. It has to be left as "link" and "link2"
@tidal patrol

[tidal patrol]

very odd, i'll try to look into it. If you have time can you see if this issue occurs in a fresh profile with just terminal stuff

[clear spindle]

Sures, omw home now

[clear spindle]

Okay interesting
It didnt occur on a fresh profile
Just tried again, and it actually isnt crashing now
Which means it specifically is something said here

My guess is that it crashes because "discord" and "wiki" are not only the keywords for the command, but are also part of the description of said commands
Meaning when it pulls up the descriptions, it might be trying to use the keywords, making a loop or something????

thats my best guess.

[tidal patrol]

been a while since i've taken a look at the code for this particular command so i'll have to look into it

to be honest, after a quick glance i'm pretty sure this is a backend thing that might just go away when I eventually update the mod

reminded me why I had taken a step away from lethal modding for a bit. I was working on migrating from using my messy ManagedConfig class to a newer rewritten system under CommandManager

basically there's a lot I needed to/still need to migrate over to the other system

[clear spindle]

ooo, i see

in any case, i have it fixed for now, whatever it was

[tidal patrol]

suitsTerminal is a good example of a mod I was able to fork over to the newer system completely

but a lot less commands in that mod vs terminal stuff

[flint basin]

Oh yeah one thing I wanna say about TerminalStuff, the \r command puts the carrot back to the start of the line without making a new line. This breaks the ASCII art and whatnot because all the text is piled on itself. Just replace them all with \n and the issue is fixed

[tidal patrol]

yeah I'll update the defaults to not include \r when it's not necessary. I think at the time I was just trying to emulate zeeker's formatting

[blazing matrix]

Well whenever you do update the mod I look forward to it and I am glad you have returned your mods are all essential tbh

I legit can't play without your stuff anymore, which is why I was so happy when the fix for Suits Terminal was to stop allowing Terminal History lol

[wild atlas]

I'm glad you're back

[flint basin]

It will be cool to have the mods fixed, I have only ever known the current semi-broken stuff

[blazing matrix]

Oh yeah btw @tidal patrol I fixed the null suit errors, it was either cus of some suits I needed to update in my addons mod or cus of the ignore less suits setting in More Suits, I updated my mod and turned that off and the problem was resolved though lol

[blazing matrix]

I was hoping it would, I really didn't have any idea if it would and just hoped lol

[grizzled briar]

I'm looking to check out darmuh's storeplus features but I have heard of darmuh's having some issues. Could someone list those issues to see what I need to do/not do?