It's usually at 40-50% while running my modpack
#RebalancedMoons + Atlas
high haven
Is it really that much of a difference
I didn't notice much of a change in ram usage when updated
cinder jackal
fps is also much higher now peak updates
ancient wolf
ive had it happen back in october but i assume it was my fault since like 60 mods 120 fixes and it was a wesley moon
dense hull
This mod wouldn’t be mid if Embrion had a cart ride into 17 pregnant hyenas
tawdry peak
Excuse me?
sinful jungle
This mod wouldn’t be mid if Embrion had a cart ride into 17 pregnant hyenas
I lowk agree with u
I'll figure something out
cinder jackal
This mod wouldn’t be mid if Embrion had a cart ride into 17 pregnant hyenas
WHAT
dense hull
no
high haven
Is it really that much of a difference
nvm computer mustve been doing a goofy last night
at least 200mb ram freed up and titan running at 120fps
sinful jungle
trying to fix this for the next update
i managed to encounter this error earlier today
i think i got it
tawdry peak
oh sweet
bright tiger
🤑
sinful jungle
they're holding hands @sharp finch
clear cradle
What if I put my BRBNetworker(Clone) next to your RBMNetworker(Clone)? Haha jk jk... Unless...?
sinful jungle
floshed
sinful jungle
trying to fix this for the next update
fixed it
nova helped me test :D
i then popped his head off
because i couldnt shoot him
dense hull
HOW COULD YOU
sinful jungle
i was watching him stare at the ladder in suspense and i sighed in relief when it worked 😭
shit sucks
i hate networking
sinful jungle
thanks to buttery again for saving me the huge headache of figuring out whatever was wrong
i didnt know what was wrong with my network handler code so i just copied her code that spawns it xd
obtuse mortar
your code on onnetworkspawn concerned me and i had no idea what you were doing lol
sinful jungle
IDK!! it worked in lan!!
sinful jungle
your code on onnetworkspawn concerned me and i had no idea what you were doing l...
also wym specifically
like the stuff where i was despawning it?
this
obtuse mortar
yes, this looked pretty cursed
sinful jungle
i took that part specifically from diminishing returns
cuz i was having issues
and theirs seemingly worked
obtuse mortar
and i still think that it's cursed for a few reasons lol
you want me to list off my reasons for the sake of it?
obtuse mortar
this is in lethal wiki?
sinful jungle
yeah i referenced it for event subscriber stuff
but when i refactored the networker stuff i forgot to set the event to null onnetworkspawn again
sinful jungle
you want me to list off my reasons for the sake of it?
also this is from the wiki too
well
obtuse mortar
my god
sinful jungle
barring the null check
obtuse mortar
oh
null check is better than ? in this case because i think unity does weird things with that syntax
sinful jungle
well i was checking for != null anyways
so it doesnt matter
whats wrong with this code
?
and if its wrong why is it just on the wiki lol
obtuse mortar
it's not "wrong" (i think anyway, there's a chance it could be since the timing is such a weird one).
but doing this on OnNetworkSpawn is a really weird place to be doing it
sinful jungle
this is how im doin it now
well
this is how buttery is doing it
i stole this
xp
obtuse mortar
this is what i do lol
sinful jungle
this looks a lot less
weird
but i dont think ill be poking my stuff with a 12 foot pole for now, i tested with nova and it works and thats all i care about lol
oh but i need to fix that event
obtuse mortar
i would agree, if an instance already exists i dont really do anything, something would've had to have gone horribly wrong for an instance to exist past lobby reload anyway
sinful jungle
null check is better than `?` in this case because i think unity does weird thin...
actually
now that i think about it
i think i specifically added the null check bc the snippet from the wiki was just fucking erroring out
without it
😭
yeah i remember now
it took me hours to figure out why my stuff wasnt working
obtuse mortar
oh it wont error (unless you mean in runtime then there's a decent chance it did yeah lol)
obtuse mortar
i gotta update that part of the wiki at some point, and quite a lot more later lol
sinful jungle
p
dense hull
@sinful jungle What the fuck did you do to Map Improvement's Experimentation AI O_O
unique wyvern
<@717509908479868999> What the fuck did you do to Map Improvement's Experimentat...
this was reported before
idk if it was on spooky's thread or here though
dense hull
Is it just random chance for this glitch to manifest?
sharp finch
dopadream's scene for experimentation deletes the interior
since it's inaccessible in vanilla
clear cradle
Yeah its just an unfortunate incompatibility
unique wyvern
didn't you two use to account for that by just making it so that improvement can't show up or smth
sharp finch
Dopa could you consider adding it back or adding an option to add it back
couldnt you just disable experimentation's scene entirely
sinful jungle
generally i remove all unused OOB stuff
i dont account for other mods using it/ adding it back
high haven
map improvements A is really the only case of it doing that anyway
all the other map improvements don't seem to make use of OOB stuff
dense hull
couldnt you just disable experimentation's scene entirely
Yes, but I want consistency with all of my moons
E.g. it'd be weird that Experimentation's exterior lights won't turn off when the interior lights are while the rest of the vanilla moons do
sinful jungle
Yes, but I want consistency with all of my moons
then why do you want experimentation to have a sub interior
thats a cut feature that was supposed to be on all moons
sinful jungle
the interior isnt a major performance concern
i just saw it as unused content and culled it
as i do everything else
unique wyvern
can't you check if map improvements is active and reenable it or smth? just wondering
sinful jungle
its a bit more work than that
clear cradle
I could technically re-add it, but it is a big mesh
sinful jungle
i optimized + replaced the entire mesh of the building and also i removed all the meshes and triggers inside
and i removed the door on the side
clear cradle
Maybe I can just have the interior as its own mesh
since you left the main entrance hole
sinful jungle
the side hole is still gone though
clear cradle
That one isn't as important, so I'll just wall off that path like I do if B spawns after A
sinful jungle
didn't you two use to account for that by just making it so that improvement can...
what happened to this @clear cradle
clear cradle
what
sinful jungle
you used to check for my scene
and just disable the interior improvement
what happened to that
clear cradle
its there
sinful jungle
<@717509908479868999> What the fuck did you do to Map Improvement's Experimentat...
?
clear cradle
idk something's always breaking
clear cradle
Maybe I can just have the interior as its own mesh
I'll probably do this so it wont be needed
sinful jungle
yea was just wondering
anyways i checked your code and you're not doing anything to stop it when my scene is loaded
which is why thats happening
its not broken i think you just forgot
clear cradle
I put the entrance & scan nodes back
sinful jungle
Don't do anything on your end
I'm just going to change my scene at runtime so it has the version of the building with the interior when mapimprovements is loaded
it'll just take a bit
unique wyvern
its not broken i think you just forgot
maybe it's jsut my luck but when i added rebalanced moons to my pack that improvement just never showed up again
dense hull
There is something blocking the Cruiser from being in the space just behind it
minor thicket
Don't do anything on your end
well look who I found in the tmodloader workshop haha
earnest nebula
well look who I found in the tmodloader workshop haha
clear cradle
I'm just going to change my scene at runtime so it has the version of the buildi...
That's dumb just let me do it it'll save everyone
sinful jungle
That's dumb just let me do it it'll save everyone
no
your idea of manually making a new interior mesh is dumber tbh lol
just let me fix it
dense hull
unique wyvern
where's this from I'm curious
clear cradle
your idea of manually making a new interior mesh is dumber tbh lol
I was literally going to rip the mesh and just remove the building wut
sinful jungle
ig
its just kind of pointless
at least let me fix the hole on the side ??
i dont want it to be weird with this mod installed
earnest nebula
where's this from I'm curious
an reanimation pack for the scout (from tf2) on gamebana
sinful jungle
an reanimation pack for the scout (from tf2) on gamebana
its kind of bad
love his other work though
earnest nebula
yeah, he improved a lot over time
clear cradle
at least let me fix the hole on the side ??
Not worth swapping out the whole scene
sinful jungle
no
im not
im just gonna do an rpc to swap out the building mesh, and re-add the stuff i deleted as disabled objects to the scene
really simple stuff
i honestly prefer that idea a lot better
clear cradle
Alright but I won't be releasing an update anytime soon so it'll still be inaccessible for a while
I also should start laying the groundwork for more than 3 improvements
sinful jungle
i fixed all my networking bullshit so it'll be easy
I should help you out with that. so you can have synced doors
would be cool
sinful jungle
There is something blocking the Cruiser from being in the space just behind it
Also sorry i missed this; all moons have a "vehicle blocker" at the main entrance so you cant block the door with the car. its probably still misplaced on... whatever moon this is
clear cradle
I mean I figured I'd just spawn the doors separately so they can be a synced prefab, but having the whole mod not client side would be smart
dense hull
Also sorry i missed this; all moons have a "vehicle blocker" at the main entranc...
What
Why
clear cradle
most moons have that
sinful jungle
I assume because if a player exited the building it would cause the car to fling
dense hull
🥀
sinful jungle
if its blocking the doorway
unique wyvern
prolly ye
clear cradle
snowy artifice probly
sharp finch
looks like it is artifice with the blizzard
sharp finch
lol
sharp finch
this was my pfp before it was whatever it was for like 3+ months
sharp finch
it's funny you mention that
sharp finch
i liked that game i kinda want to revisit it
sinful jungle
i was playing it on my steam deck and when i built my pc i started playing other games and forgot
same
sharp finch
i did it on hard mode but if i replayed now id probably just be lazy and replay it on normal
it's been long enough since i 99%ed it or whatever
i could basically re-experience it and it would be just as good except i know some of the story beats
sinful jungle
are you familiar with black mesa's achievements
sharp finch
lol i can not get into that game at all
sinful jungle
i have all achievements but one that require you to carry a pizza to the end of the game
its annoying as hell
sharp finch
i've tried playing black mesa like 5 separate times and i always lose interest
my furthest attempt made it to on a rail before i gave up
sinful jungle
i think i beat it like 5 or 6 times
sharp finch
im familiar with some of the achievements
like the questionable ethics one where you have to do a bunch of weird experiments
or the purple hat in lambda core(?)
sinful jungle
yes
sharp finch
you have to warp to xen
sinful jungle
i did those
sharp finch
i've heard xen is really impressive and i've avoided all the spoilers
so that if i ever feel like i can get through the game
i can be fully immersed and surprised by it
sinful jungle
did you just get lost a lot or smth?
sharp finch
actually i never had trouble with navigation
it actually flowed pretty well
i forget why i dropped on a rail
sinful jungle
its just a common complaint i see from people who dont like it
sharp finch
i just feel like i never picked it up right in the first place
the voice acting feels kind of corny and distracting to me lol
it's nothing like half life or half life 2
sinful jungle
i have to play the game modded because the gun sounds piss me off
the smg sounds like a stapler
i also just generally dislike the vanilla viewmodels but its just a nitpick
also the fact that they just. Used the vanilla hl2 headcrab models
despite them being evolutionally modified by the combine
sharp finch
oh yeah i think the general inconsistency in enemy designs always kind of turned me away a bit
in general i dont like how most of the stuff was redesigned
the bullsquid is my favorite half life enemy (was my pfp for years) and it looks really ugly in BM lol
sinful jungle
generally i like the enemies from this pack a lot
especially the vortigaunts lol
so cute
dense hull
the bullsquid is my favorite half life enemy (was my pfp for years) and it looks...
Bullsquids are my favorites too
Little alien puppies 🧡
sinful jungle
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2610898912
buttery what do you think abt the bull squids from this pack
its very charming to me
sinful jungle
they look so silly
sharp finch
maybe i could "fix" black mesa by using some mods like this
and actually get into it
i dunno
dense hull
Yw
sinful jungle
@clear cradle do you use these colliders
on experimentation
its inside the interior
sinful jungle
I can't enable objects that are disabled unless they're added in runtime
You can
btw
clear cradle
Never seems to work for me
sinful jungle
that's odd
clear cradle
I can enable stuff I add but never anything in base game, which makes it even weirder
sinful jungle
ah
sharp finch
you need to find an active parent and use transform.find to search down its hierarchy
clear cradle
<@643818928933699605> do you use these colliders
Yes do not steal pls
clear cradle
you need to find an active parent and use transform.find to search down its hier...
I do find objects by type to get disabled objects & that works
I'll look into implementing a way to search children but that'd be hard for my system, especially for custom moons
stone lance
stone lance
@mental breach has some words
high haven
sinful jungle
I literally have an appointment in 30m so whatever it is that's broken will have to wait
a bit
mental breach
I literally have an appointment in 30m so whatever it is that's broken will have...
Your networker is broken and breaks multiplayer cus it's not consistent
We spent the last hour and a half trying to find out what mod it was
lol
sinful jungle
I tested it with nova online and it worked fine, wym not consistent ?
high haven
whats the symptoms
versed bone
What's happening?
sinful jungle
¿
versed bone
I'm confused
versed bone
Gotta make sure to share modcodes
high haven
why is this happening only now
obtuse mortar
i think there's some misunderstandings happening
the latest update where you changed how you make your network handler
is causing issues
mental breach
We did share the code
versed bone
OH
sinful jungle
im just doing it the same way buttery is tho
obtuse mortar
lunxara isnt saying version mismatch as in not the same codes
mental breach
It's literally a networking mismatch
stone lance
yeah, and the issue is with how global object id hash is calculated
mental breach
Cus every client gets a different id
sinful jungle
i see
why did it not break in my testing :?
is it only replicable with more than 2 people
obtuse mortar
nope it instantly didnt allow anyone else to join other htan host
not sure why it didnt break on your end though
sinful jungle
ok thats rlly weird
i literally played online with it
im gonna be gone for like an hour, do you think you could make a pull request or something
obtuse mortar
yeah and i vouched for you when mentioned cuz of it 😔, ill take a look at the code and see if i can figure it out lol
oh that
right
@latent inlet what was the actual code for this lol
ill also try to find it rq
latent inlet
#1348089079673393152 message
sinful jungle
i stole that from buttery panstan
bc i stopped using a bundled prefab
literally same code so idk
latent inlet
as a minimum using Unity Hash32 on the mod GUID.
or the way in the snippet with a custom determinitic hashfunction
sinful jungle
weird
obtuse mortar
i stole that from buttery panstan
which mod of buttery's
sinful jungle
rybalance
stone lance
literally same code so idk
it's failing because of inlining
sinful jungle
oh
stone lance
you're calling Assembly.GetCallingAssembly() inside of patch, while butteryBalance is calling it in other method
latent inlet
why using the calling assembly instead of a constant anyways?
stone lance
typeof(RBMNetworking).Assembly should do the trick
sinful jungle
why using the calling assembly instead of a constant anyways?
i think when i pasted it autofill just did that
latent inlet
you def have mod name/guid somewhere as a constant in your plugin
stone lance
or yeah just use plugin guid
versed bone
So should I just like downgrade to the previous version for now?
sharp finch
why using the calling assembly instead of a constant anyways?
i got this code from either LLL or lethallib
i don't remember exactly which but it was what batby encouraged
i just figured it was because plugin GUID was determined to not be unique enough
or something
versed bone
So is rebalanced moons broken rn??
sharp finch
i believe it was this exact spot
which is attributed to day and xilo
so the rabbit hole apparently goes deeper and deeper
woven tiger
has the canyon skybox changed? the screenshot on the mod page doesn't seem to resemble it ingame too much
sinful jungle
has the canyon skybox changed? the screenshot on the mod page doesn't seem to re...
are you on like offense or something
cuz offense is just more orange with this mod + rbm
latent inlet
i just figured it was because plugin GUID was determined to not be unique enough
fun fact: if two mods have the same GUID BepInEx will load only one of them 😅
sharp finch
lol i just mean i figured it would be easier to run into a hashing collision
with a smaller input string
im actually not familiar with the internals of md5
latent inlet
i guessed that. mine was a half joke.
the probability of collisions depends on the algorithm used. md5 definitely has a low collision chance but is more expensive to compute
versed bone
So what is the issue rn?
As I plan on hosting an LC game which has this mod
sinful jungle
<@402567749479432195> so like this?
uuuh @stone lance :3
srry just kinda wanna get rid of this asap
latent inlet
you could replace the entire Md5[...]GetBytes with a .Hash32() call but in theory your code should be fine and now deterministic
mental breach
So what is the issue rn?
As I plan on hosting an LC game which has this mod
I would disable it til it's updated
or downgrade 2 versions back
sinful jungle
I have the update ready already I just didnt know if this would suffice or not
mental breach
Yeah fair lol
versed bone
or downgrade 2 versions back
k,
I would disable it but I legit have a custom log located on the water tower on march
latent inlet
netObj.GlobalObjectIdHash = (PLUGIN_GUID + prefabname).Hash32();
Hash32 is a extension method so you probably need to import it but that should be trivial
sinful jungle
<:greed:1200418319694577754>
With all due respect I hope I don't get a notification from you again 🤣
i like heard the prowler theme in my head
i noticed that thunderstore's beta site always gets updates instantly
but normal ts takes a bit to refresh sometimes
unique wyvern
i like heard the prowler theme in my head
god do I know that feeling
sinful jungle
WHY DOES MY PHONE COMPRESS IT >:(
no worries i annoyed plenty of people with this
snow kite
Rebalanced Moons x A Minecraft Movie crossover confirmed??
dense hull
THUMPER JOCKEY
snow kite
A guy on Bread’s server made this and it would be fitting
dense hull
KIDNAPPER FOX JOCKEY ‼️ 🔥 🗣️
unique wyvern
kills you with many bricks and stones
unique wyvern
A guy on Bread’s server made this and it would be fitting
if lethalmon hadn't halted development 💔
sinful jungle
sinful jungle
kills you with many bricks and stones
both of these are materials you can get in minecraft js
everything ties back to minecraft
sinful jungle
not rlly but i enjoyed it
unique wyvern
but i wanna watch it still cuz i wanna give it a proper chance
no shitty camrip no shitty unfinished cgi version
sinful jungle
its a fucking minecraft movie like set your expectations as low as possible
unique wyvern
oh they are im not expecting anything
the only thing i had any expectations for i was already spoiled on so i'm at like
ground.... 0.1
not quite the lowest i can go but i don't expect a fucking masterpiece
sinful jungle
its pretty much just goofs
unique wyvern
i feel like everyone expected to be blown away or smth and i cant rlly get that cuz it's a movie about fucking minecraft
sinful jungle
like the movie doesnt take itself srsly at all
unique wyvern
i feel like everyone expected to be blown away or smth and i cant rlly get that ...
or like they wanted to be met with like a sick plotline and interesting characters
unique wyvern
like the movie doesnt take itself srsly at all
ye
i feel like you could smell that away from all the trailers
sinful jungle
like the movie doesnt take itself srsly at all
i feel like ppl should have expected this from the camera zooming in on jack black saying i am steve like an avenger
obtuse mortar
everyone i've talked to told me it's shit
i've kind of heard the opposite
unique wyvern
i feel like ppl should have expected this from the camera zooming in on jack bla...
yeah lmao
sinful jungle
its an amazing experience
unique wyvern
i've kind of heard the opposite
glad your friends know how to have fun smh
(i don't actually care that much that they don't like it)
im moreso stinky about the fact they didn't wanna wait for a proper rip of it w me but that's w/e
my wife still hasn't seen it and she loves matt berry so she wants to see it
unique wyvern
its an amazing experience
noted lol
sinful jungle
i watched a camrip of the final cut
unique wyvern
ye that's totally acceptable
sharp finch
ethan matt berry
unique wyvern
I just tend to dislike how crusty and terrible cam rips sound most of the time
dense hull
sinful jungle
is this some tbs shit
dense hull
Grace
dense hull
An entity from Grace
sinful jungle
huh
unique wyvern
sinful jungle
never heard of it
dense hull
Reverse Eyefestation where you have to stare at them
Grace is much better than DOORS and Pressure combined personally
Love the fast-paced gameplay over the drag that is DOORS and Pressure
unique wyvern
what is grace narpy we want to know!!
dense hull
unique wyvern
that doesn't explain shit cuz i don't fucking know what doors and pressure are :D
dense hull
You know Rooms at least?
dense hull
Ok whatever
unique wyvern
no i don't actually know what those are though 😭
sinful jungle
You know Rooms at least?
if they didnt know either two of the mainstream ones why would they know abt the obscure predecessor
dense hull
Imagine Spooky's Jumpscare Mansion mixed with Pizza Tower then
sinful jungle
they're roblox games
dense hull
That's Grace
unique wyvern
Imagine Spooky's Jumpscare Mansion mixed with Pizza Tower then
jumpscare platformer?
oh is it like a nextbot thingy
dense hull
3D
sinful jungle
not rlly a platformer at all no
dense hull
Because it has heavy inspiration from PT
sinful jungle
its just like spookys jumpscare mansion infinite mode vasically
unique wyvern
they're roblox games
i knew doors was a roblock game ye
dense hull
its just like spookys jumpscare mansion infinite mode vasically
Hell no
This is not a good description
lmfao
sinful jungle
it is though
unique wyvern
its just like spookys jumpscare mansion infinite mode vasically
i.. i don'... i,,,
im sorry guys im not horror pilled
sinful jungle
you walk through a linear procedurally generating set of rooms where entities periodically attack you
unique wyvern
i know what spooky's is, don't know the infinite mode tho
sinful jungle
it is quite literally the same gameplay loop
unique wyvern
you walk through a linear procedurally generating set of rooms where entities pe...
ohh gotcha
unique wyvern
so that's what doors and pressure are then?
what is gra- ah ok
ok i understood nothing
sinful jungle
so that's what doors and pressure are then?
yeah p much
unique wyvern
but that ui is gorgeous
sinful jungle
except both of them end at a certain point
i forget the exact numbers tbh
i think room 100 and 125
both of them have endless modes though iirc
dense hull
Oh
Ok yeah I agree then
The official ost of Grace also fucking rocks
U should listen to it
unique wyvern
ok but is grace just doors but again then you didn't explain what it was
dense hull
I'm kinda focusing on Lethal Company rn, but Grace is DOORS with a lot more platforming, dodging, and overall isn't boringly slow like the previous two
The entities are also more than just, "hide from them, " e.g. Sorrow you have to get under geometry to avoid their acid rain, Litany where you have to slide each time she opens her three eyes, Kookoo where they'll show a timer, and will kill you if the timer strikes and you still have an item out, Doombringer is a fucking rat that latches onto your inventory, and will explode via screaming if you don't shut their mouth
Of course there's the A-60 clone, but you don't use lockers to hide from them. You hide from them in little cubby holes that yellow arrows point u to, but entities like Doppel/Rue can follow you into them, so you aren't truly safe, and still have to keep your chin up at all times
charred turret
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1261361675710496912/1358220884346929404/8...
oh hey my clip
dense hull
Yea I was looking for that clip but I couldn't find it lmao
You see what I mean
Anyways I'm going to stop talking here and focus back on Lethal
sinful jungle
ROOMS + Pressure + DOORS
sinful jungle
ROOMS + Pressure + DOORS + Grace
dense hull
This mod's finally good...
dense hull
I don't think either of them know about it
tawdry spruce
oh they dont know???
dense hull
Idk
tawdry spruce
oh they dont knowww
dense hull
Do y'all know about it?
charred turret
reference to the ridge pandemonium that spawned on my glutton for punishment win
tawdry spruce
my lockerless win consisted of winning the 50/50 with pandemonium since the room was a split path and there were no other hiding spots
with no spatial audio
so i had no sense of direction i just had to trust how close the dude sounded to me
charred turret
the pandemonium that spawned for me happened when i had no lockers nearby, and i had to weave around a storage container so they wouldnt see me
i literally had like 0.3 seconds to move to not be seen
crisp mango
wrong ping lol
crisp mango
except both of them end at a certain point
btw, the HQ voice actor from Pressure knows your mod
She likes it
charred turret
i mean they probably know about stans mods tbh
she has some of the most popular bug fix mods
sinful jungle
where's Rooms and Doors?
idk shitycomics told me the owner is a weirdo
so i generally avoid it
i forget the specifics tho id rlly have to ask him
cinder jackal
idk shitycomics told me the owner is a weirdo
yeah im still not gonna let go of what he said and i don't want to find out either
sinful jungle
i kind of do tho
like
he made it sound like it was kind of serious shit
and id like to know the facts yk
cinder jackal
fair
sinful jungle
btw, the HQ voice actor from Pressure knows your mod
She likes it
I doubt that but if thats true then thats rlly cool
i mean i update my shit so often i imagine its on the front page often
crisp mango
I doubt that but if thats true then thats rlly cool
Believe me, I made her a modpack
sinful jungle
oh lol
RebalancedMoons + Atlas
btw
hm i guess i should ask in another channel nvm
sinful jungle
Yes
charred turret
one more clip before i disappear
cinder jackal
unique wyvern
this one is a better representation imo https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1...
get that fuckass mouse and keyboard off the screen
unique wyvern
Anyways I'm going to stop talking here and focus back on Lethal
what's that one?
unique wyvern
one more clip before i disappear
ok it's way smaller there thank god asoidjsiaosa the other one was kinda fucking w the clip's visibility
dense hull
what's that one?
What?
unique wyvern
what's lethal gompany?
charred turret
get that fuckass mouse and keyboard off the screen
sorry im bad at judging the size because OBS shows a smaller screen
unique wyvern
sorry im bad at judging the size because OBS shows a smaller screen
LMAO you're good you're good, obs is ass about that i get you
wind marlin
not reealy
unique wyvern
well maybe im just stupid ok maybe im just fucking stupid ok maybe im just a buffoon maybe im a Fool maybe im a Googy geegy idiot!!!!
wind marlin
u can show what OBS output is recording as a fullscreen window 😭
sinful jungle
wind marlin
just right click the preview and it's Full-screen Projector (Preview) or Windowed Projector (Preview)
obtuse mortar
dopanightmare
i looked away, thought to myself "dopanightmare" and for 3 seconds thought i came up with that 😔
cinder jackal
lol
fossil owl
<@1248340672667324518> sticker varient of tuliptalk!!?
it’s too low res for it to be a sticker. i dont have the original ”
” either 
snow kite
made unbalanced moons...
Mod just does nothing and keeps vanilla stats
cinder jackal
Mod just does nothing and keeps vanilla stats
so true 😭
obtuse mortar
cinder jackal
stable moon
not sure if this is already reported, but some of the light animators added to experimentation (the ones which turn off on power outage) appear to be not hooked up correctly, and stuck in the on state even after others are turned off (hard to see but left image is the one outside the main entrance which is correctly turned off).
sinful jungle
yea thats intentional
the railway is powered via mysterious means
do not ask
(it just doesnt seem like its powered by the building to me, idk)
stable moon
the lights still appear to be powered off though, it's just the texture stuck on 🥴
in that case I'd just remove the animator from those lights altogether
stable moon
I encountered the issue since I'm working on a script which blacks out light textures, and the ones here cant be changed since the animator is overriding it. thanks for looking into it 👍
sinful jungle
well
i think i know whats happening
they r prolly just untagged but i left the animator on accident
pallid tide
Usually lights are controlled by the building not the railroad infrastructure
sinful jungle
they extend way beyond the building though
it just seems detached to me
but idk
i can make them powered ig
crude valley
i don't remember exactly which but it was what batby encouraged
If there’s an easy improvement to however that hashing is done for LLL btw someone can make a issue on git and i can try and push it out when i have time
crisp mango
just a small question, does this mod fixes the non-collision pillar near the fire exit in Experimentation? (I know MapImprovements has it)
unique wyvern
oh yeah this is a super small, teeny tiny thing but does it also add collission to some of the other utility pole props on the map?
thjese things
the one next to the pipe route from fire has collission throughout the whole thing but the others only on the main pillar, not on the little wooden things that stick out
not that... they need to have it since who tf's gonna get up there but I just thought i'd ask cuz I noticed it yesterday while testing
sinful jungle
what
i dont care about that
how the hell would u even get up there
dont say jetpack i dont take that shit into account
sinful jungle
i mean i can add them i guess
unique wyvern
i dont care about that
i know im justasKINGCUZIWASCURIUOUS
unique wyvern
i mean i can add them i guess
lol if you want
obtuse mortar
i wouldnt add stuff to unreachable areas, it's like zeekerss big ass mesh colliders on unreachable parts of the map lol
if it's a box collider or two though who cares
unique wyvern
i mean they are within the playable area, but yeah i was just curious about that is all lol
sinful jungle
i did it alr
unique wyvern
sinful jungle
unique wyvern
sinful jungle
unique wyvern
cinder jackal
peakbalanced moons
mental breach
@sinful jungle So Embrion gambling caused us to get an oops all Purple Action figure day, I might recommend making a check so valueless tools and scraps can't spawn in the loot pool
mental breach
purple action figure ?
Yeah from Wesley's Moons, usually exclusive to Galetry
dense hull
purple action figure ?
@charred turret They made your ass marketable 😔
sharp finch
i can do a value check
https://github.com/dopadream/RebalancedMoonsPlugin/blob/37027f1597aca327650f332ec7e9e6e79de8ee76/RBMNetworker.cs#L254
something like if ((int)(item.maxValue * RoundManager.Instance.scrapValueMultiplier) > 0) continue; ought to be fine
you might want to set a threshold higher than $0 i guess
in case some mod adds a scrap that's worth like $0-3
sharp finch
in case some mod adds a scrap that's worth like $0-3
checking minValue instead of maxValue also might be a better idea
for something like that
i suppose
sharp finch
its been a bit hope you're doing ok
yeah it has been fine
wasn't sure if you were sick or just feeling down
as for me ive just not been present in lethal space but i am "around" and "doing ok"
tawdry peak
Is he eating a burrito
dense hull
Did u add dust cloud's ambience to Assurance and Offense
dense hull
This part of the right fire exit's supports doesn't have LC's shaders I think
You can tell because it's popping out against the fog
sinful jungle
might be wrong material
sinful jungle
Did u add dust cloud's ambience to Assurance and Offense
im also ngl ifk wtf u mean sorry
dense hull
Experimentation's ambience aka
dense hull
If that's the codename then yeah
dense hull
It's used on Experimentation, but I've now noticed it's on Assurance and Offense
Yes
The wind
sinful jungle
i can removes it
dense hull
Na, it's nice
I was just wondering
It came out of nowhere one day so I was a bit taken aback as it was something I wasn't expecting
The desert moons feel weirdly quiet in vanilla so this is a nice change
(Quiet in a bad way)
sinful jungle
for moon devs, heres the prefab for the rollup ladder on vow, it comes with the prefab, the plugin (its required for the script) and all of its dependencies. just place it on your scene where you want like this and make sure its not slanted (until someone makes a fix for mounting ladders at an incline)
@obtuse mortar
summer pewterBOT
for moon devs, heres the prefab for the rollup ladder on vow, it comes with the ...
obtuse mortar
this.ladderPlayerPositionNode.position = new Vector3(this.ladderHorizontalPosition.position.x, Mathf.Clamp(component.thisPlayerBody.position.y, this.bottomOfLadderPosition.position.y + 0.3f, this.topOfLadderPosition.position.y - 2.2f), this.ladderHorizontalPosition.position.z);
also this is the problematic line of code that's causing the player to be put in the wrong position on the ladder, im trying to see what would fix it
sharp finch
it's placing them at the x and z of the origin
based on wherever their height places them
i haven't patched this in butteryfixes yet (been on hiatus for a bit...) but what i was planning to do was inverse lerp the player's Y position with the bottom and top Y positions
then lerp that value between the bottom and top positions
i'd need to try that in game just to be sure it'd do what i expect it do, but that should place the player on the ladder at the same Y position they'd be placed normally
unique wyvern
for moon devs, heres the prefab for the rollup ladder on vow, it comes with the ...
that's sick! thanks a lot
dense hull
@sinful jungle Could there be spawn blockers on every artificial structure 🥺
dense hull
Plus doesn't make sense since they're like
digging out of it
somehow
That's not my main point though
Gameplay-wise it just fucking sucks
dense hull
@sinful jungle What did you do to Dine's v50 fire exit tf
dense hull
Yes
dense hull
WHAT
Anyways, MapImprovements doesn't affect the v50 fire exit
At least the the improvements I have enabled
So I don't know why the building would be missing
sinful jungle
ic ic
ill look rq
was playing fortnite
buh
idk
something u have is removing it
zenith dust
it just decided to be evil for no reason
dense hull
What the fuck?
01964e50-b446-7a07-c438-812ee46afcd9
I have nothing else that affects the vanilla moon's scenes
clear cradle
Unless you renamed the cube or moved it nothing has changed for the check
wary narwhal
Has anyone come across an issue with Experimentation's alternate building not loading its interior?
sinful jungle
for now disable experimentation scene overrides or disable experimentation A (i think its A)
wary narwhal
Thank you, one day I'll learn to read patch notes 😬
sinful jungle
no worries
not calling you out lmao the thunderstore UI is pretty bad and it obscures patch notes
was just lazy to type
high haven
does anyone else have where titan plays experimentation's ambience? its basically the same reverb triggers as experimentation for some reason
sinful jungle
i just enabled the high/low audio on titan
thats all
there are subtle ambience changes to a lot of moons
high haven
is it supposed to be playing FactoryWindAmbiance in the entire outside on top of the normal titan ambiance
unique wyvern
dopa
high haven
windoutside i think
oh yeah whoops
high haven
the soundpack i use has both of those sounds as the same
so WindOutside is supposed to be playing constantly now?
sinful jungle
yea
dense hull
Unless you renamed the cube or moved it nothing has changed for the check
Disabled MapImprovements; building is back
Hopefully this can be at least looked into because both Dine A and Rebalanced Dine are equally too good to disable
01965133-0339-17b7-a332-ff9e43f40548
high haven
is the company tag in Atlas any different than the normal one?
sinful jungle
its just the tundra sky
dense hull
Idk whether this is a Rebalanced Moons or Map Improvements issue, but this eyeless dog spawned here
sinful jungle
Idk whether this is a Rebalanced Moons or Map Improvements issue, but this eyele...
weird will look into
might have to remove nodes from the weird catwalk thing
clear cradle
It's on mine but also just how spawning is
Sometimes deciding to spawn on geometry out of bounds because why not
sinful jungle
check pins
tawdry peak
Oh lol
Haven't really been paying attention lately since my friends and I been doing other games
proper grotto
Haven't really been paying attention lately since my friends and I been doing ot...
The logical answer being REPO of course
tawdry peak
Perhaps
Although I'm really missing lethals loop
My friends can easily just kill the enemies
In repo
snow kite
Even with the recent combat nerf of the overheat mechanic? That change must not have done as much as I thought?
half lion
Even with the recent combat nerf of the overheat mechanic? That change must not ...
That update is not out yet
unique wyvern
Ye
Still combat should be relatively easy still after that, but it'd be more dependant on the tile you're on
the change is moreso so one person doesn't eat up all the strength upgrades and become God
atleast that's how I see it
snow kite
That update is not out yet
I see
snow kite
atleast that's how I see it
That is how I see it too, which should add some nuance and difficulty to combat. No more strength 13 and just ragdolling all the enemies you encounter
obtuse mortar
no that'll still be a thing lol
snow kite
I guess I should not underestimate players
REPO devs are gonna have a power struggle with players just like Zeekerss before them
tawdry peak
Yeah repo update not out
And idk if the new mechanic gonna fix a lot
The big issue is the level 3 enemies are just too easy to kill
I literally watched someone i play with kill the robe quite easily with just a bat
When we played lethal with him he tried to kill a braken with a shovel
Learned the hard way
dense hull
Can there be an option for the apparatus to not shut off lamps on ice moons
- They're probably not connected to the same power grid, and 2. It makes trudging through the ice moons at night worse
dense hull
Idk
I imagine it's kind of like the fire exit light where it has its own power source due to its significance
Somehow
sinful jungle
I can look into it maybe but its kindof a difficult thing to change at runtime
dense hull
Alr
proper grotto
Although I'm really missing lethals loop
Same
I am hoping that my group returns to LC in v70
In general I do prefer LC’s gameplay loop but REPO is a really fun game and I love them both a lot.
unique loom
is there any way i can load my own HDRI into the game with atlas?
sinful jungle
is there any way i can load my own HDRI into the game with atlas?
No but I'm considering adding this in a future update
It's just a bit of legwork that I'm unfamiliar with
(reading generic system files)
unique loom
yay
cinder jackal
spice igloo
Me when i smell balanced re moons
And atlas for some reason
I thought he was busy holding up the world
proper estuary
Me when i smell balanced re moons
me when I smell that zaza
spice igloo
Lunxzaza
tawdry peak
Does it make you randy?
zenith dust
moons
in regards to #974101195545280542 message ("rudimentary height map") I think it should look something like this (but good actually)
zenith dust
yeah
sinful jungle
did your pfp.. always vibrate like that?
zenith dust
it should have a fire exit path marked out but you can't see it that well
zenith dust
did your pfp.. always vibrate like that?
no
zenith dust
but its been like that for about 5 months
zenith dust
that's cool
yeah
zenith dust
it was from my days within the manic server
zenith dust
small world
yeah
unique wyvern
in regards to https://discord.com/channels/750645598293590077/974101195545280542...
i don't have access wjat is juhis...
zenith dust
i don't have access wjat is juhis...
what the tier 3 moons should have instead of a video
woven tiger
hello guys it iis autumnis from harvest moons im making rebalancedmoons 2 hope you look infront for it
unique wyvern
i'll look back for it
crisp mango
I'll look through it
sinful jungle
hello guys it iis autumnis from harvest moons im making rebalancedmoons 2 hope y...
die
i havent been updating this because hes reworking moons and shit and im waiting for v70
mainly adamance its getting reworked
sharp finch
i havent been updating this because hes reworking moons and shit and im waiting ...
lol
i forgot
that is probably going to be sort of annoying for you to pick up on
sharp finch
i think the hardest part for you will probably be generating new contour maps
for the radar
since you change the surface layouts of some of the maps
sinful jungle
ha ha ha
sharp finch
idk if zeekerss just uses an asset for it
sinful jungle
i hope not bro
unique wyvern
i think the hardest part for you will probably be generating new contour maps
what're those?
tawdry peak
i havent been updating this because hes reworking moons and shit and im waiting ...
Oh shit where did he say that
unique wyvern
Oh shit where did he say that
patreon chats
tawdry peak
Ah
Ive not been paying attention
This can either be a great thing or a disaster lol
V70 definitely gonna break all my mods
Did he give a time estimate on when it's coming
unique wyvern
Did he give a time estimate on when it's coming
nah not really
if you want news you can check this channel, theres a lot of shitposting when there's no news but when there is it's a pretty good resourc
e
high haven
all i've seen about the adamance rework is some different foliage
so like
is it gonna be drastically different from the original
unique wyvern
it's still a scene change, to be fair
high haven
like dine from v49 -> v50
unique wyvern
is it gonna be drastically different from the original
I imagine layouts won't change much
his whole deal with changing them was supposedly because all forest moons kinda look the same
unique wyvern
they 100% do, except for adamance being slightly yellower
unique wyvern
adamance was the only one that didn't look like the others lmao
meh, that's what I heard anyway
sinful jungle
adamance was the only one that didn't look like the others lmao
wym
adamance uses the same damn assets as the other 2 forest moons
the lighting is just different lol
ok i didnt realize that was still from a locked post
ignore that image i sent and deleted
unique wyvern
the lighting is just different lol
yeah, which is why I agree adding some new props is a good idea
I wonder if he'll make offense/assurance changes too... im curious what v70 holds
snow kite
The pics were leaked, wanna see them?
sharp finch
the post showing a screenshot of adamance unlocks in 2 days
i can see it even when im not logged in
seems like it publicized early
cinder jackal
kills all leakers of zeekerss pateron >:3
unique wyvern
shits pants
sharp finch
it says its locked when i open it in incognito
weird because it worked for me doing the same
maybe there's just some residual cookie or something
sinful jungle
the post says it was released 14 days early for members and it was the 30th
it should still not be publicly available yet
tawdry peak
well I hope theres some good stuff to come
He posted on bluesky (I saw you dopa lol)
Im cautiously optimistic
Worse case scenario: We got some cool modders to fix up whats needing fixes
snow kite
Is it just me or are the graphics of the radar different? Like, the rooms are wider and the colors a little bolder
stable moon
yeah, radar is getting reworked in v70
snow kite
I know about the compass and RB camera, but a total rework is news to me
pallid tide
Can there be a confg option to only enable the exterior lights/vain shrouds/texture changes?
rancid gale
Now that you point it out I like it more
sinful jungle
the teeth are long gone
i am too lazy to restore that
i think it looks fine as is atm
sinful jungle
the support beams are still there, but they're not segmented cubes anymore
its just one long beam
rancid gale
Don't mind me I am not caught up
sinful jungle
so it doesnt look like teeth
looks like this now somewhat
new texture i think but yeah
rancid gale
You will be remembered embrion building with face 🫡
sinful jungle
still has eyes!
rancid gale
That still looks really good
sinful jungle
im so hyped for v70 so i can start updating this again
I really wish I could rename this mod :(
rancid gale
For real
rancid gale
Yeah that'd be more fitting lol
Alright folks time to deprecate RBM and start over 🗿
In all seriousness banger mod
sinful jungle
I'll prolly do that after the game releases
like mrov did with weather tweaks
cuz u can deprecate a package and make launchers download a new one iirc
rancid gale
Mayhaps
obtuse mortar
genuinely
sinful jungle
o
ok i didnt know that would be allowed
that's cool
will keep in mind
Cool video!
cinder jackal
Dopa's Balanced Moons
sharp finch
deprecate package, update it with empty dll, make it depend on new package
yeah
you can also drop beta from the title
tawdry peak
it hardly "balances" them
It certainly makes them better imo
unique wyvern
i am a big fan of a bunch of the changes
rancid gale
Same
Tho I remember holding off on updating for a while when I found out about the added dependencies
(I'm that guy)
sinful jungle
https://github.com/dopadream/RebalancedMoonsPlugin/issues/7 @cobalt ravine pleaaase fix yo shit
im too crunk to respond to this person but im baffled im still hearing abt the audio stuttering issue
high haven
oh yeah this problem
still don't really know why it does that
all i know is jacob's experimental thing to make reverb triggers only apply on entry fixes it
cobalt ravine
https://github.com/dopadream/RebalancedMoonsPlugin/issues/7 <@400532488289648651...
if I wasn't getting obliterated week by week by assessment sure
snow kite
I thought F students were inventors