RebalancedMoons + Atlas

[dense hull]

It's lame as fuck

[sinful jungle]

if theres navmesh there ill remove it

then the rest is on lostenemyfix

you can just use that

[dense hull]

Alr

[sinful jungle]

yh okay

you're right

good find, ill patch it out soon

[dense hull]

FoxHappy

[obtuse mortar]

Yeah it's an exploiting little spot HQ people use iirc

[sinful jungle]

well its lame and gay

like me

[obtuse mortar]

True that

[sinful jungle]

I think its funny that the exploit carried over to the new building i made lol

cz i forgot to put modifiers in the entire area

[bright tiger]

Twinsies

[snow kite]

The spot is used by HQ because Maneater gets stuck there and they can kill it before its 30 second teleport timer elapses. I think several moons have spots but Artifice is the HQ moon so you see it there

[sinful jungle]

yeah

im like

going through all moons rn and adding navmesh modifiers to the insides of the buildings

so that if people are using LostEnemyFix it'll just make the game say fuck you and teleport the maneater out instantly

because it cant pathfind

[snow kite]

I think the generic fire exit block asset is a big cause since nearly every vanilla moon uses it

You can clip Maneater into the corner of the structure and kill it. Vow dam also has a couple spots, as do some rocks on Assurance

You may have to do some research

[obtuse mortar]

lostenemyfix is only for enemies not on navmesh

[sinful jungle]

yeah ik

no navmesh in building = they tp out

or die

[obtuse mortar]

yeah so if lost enemy fix is ever needed it's usually a moon error cough (or interior lol)

[sinful jungle]

im workin on it!!

[obtuse mortar]

:p

[sinful jungle]

err

not rlly

maneater

can be placed oob

by the player

lostenemyfix indirectly fixes this

doesnt it

or can the maneater only be dropped on navmesh to begin with

[obtuse mortar]

i could be very very wrong but i dont think that's true (assuming oob means not on navmesh)

[sinful jungle]

yeah

like you can place them inside buildings

and the vow dam

and they get stuck

[obtuse mortar]

those places should have navmesh on em if you manage to place the maneaters there

[sinful jungle]

ya

they do

[obtuse mortar]

which then lostenemyfix cant do anything about

[sinful jungle]

im fixing those areas tho

im putting modifiers in em

[sharp finch]

maneater automatically teleports to navmesh when dropped

[sinful jungle]

ahhh

so this should just fix it on its own then

[sharp finch]

and if it's stuck on a point on navmesh where it can't path to the nearest node for several seconds in a row

it warps to said node

the timer for that occurring takes longer than shoveling it to death takes though

[obtuse mortar]

yeah as long as your navmesh connects as a whole you're good

[sharp finch]

which is why it's usually exploited for an easy maneater kill

[obtuse mortar]

lost enemy fix is a mod that should never be needed, but people make mistakes and cause enemies to spawn oob sometimes

and well, whatever other possible reason you'd have for an enemy exiting navmesh somehow

[clear cradle]

Unplayable. 0/10 mod

[sinful jungle]

what am i looking at

is this titan

[clear cradle]

dam on Artifice is floating

[sinful jungle]

oh

[clear cradle]

sorry using artifice blizzard for testing & noticed it

[sinful jungle]

so it is

not my doing tho..

[clear cradle]

Still, you should fix it

[sinful jungle]

will do

[clear cradle]

you can use it as an excuse to fix your drunken updates

[bright tiger]

Also yeah does artifice blizzard work with this mod lol

[sinful jungle]

yes

[bright tiger]

alright

[sinful jungle]

but only because buttery was nice enough to add compat

really

@sharp finch thanks ofr that

it was probably a pain

[bright tiger]

ill ignore the floating dam 2000 meters away

[sinful jungle]

i mean i just moved it down

lol

[bright tiger]

lol

[sharp finch]

not really

the shader you use has really weird fields

[sinful jungle]

yeah

ik

[sharp finch]

but it was only like 5 minutes of figuring out how to make it look similar

to the normal terrain with the original shader

figuring out which one maps where

[sinful jungle]

they're weird bc voxx didnt intend for ppl to be tinkering with it

its supposed to be automated

like you just use terramesh and it generates the material

with the shader

so, now that i think abt it, you probably could've just used terramesh on the unused terrain object

to get the material

automatically

but you'd have to set the plugin up yada yada

its not too hard to manually get it to look similar like you said

but still thanks

i figured it was just annoying to have to bundle it and everything lol

[sinful jungle]

lol

you think im correcting things?

you realize what tomorrow is right

im about to fuck everything up

respectfully ofc

i have a silly plan

[clear cradle]

swap the scenes around so routing to one sends you to another

[sinful jungle]

you're

really close

lol

[clear cradle]

I have tuned into your brain waves

[sinful jungle]

but no it will have unnecessary effort

i want it to be like a minecraft april fools snapshot

[obtuse mortar]

i would do more but it would take me maybe 3 hours disabling everything in my current update so i just cant

[sinful jungle]

i will admit you fooled me

because its the 31st here

lol

i was like wtf

thought u did a rewrite lmao

[obtuse mortar]

i did, it's just not out

the github between last release and current release has had thousands of lines changed

it's gotten to the point rodrigo stopped developing and is just playing coderebirth

[tawdry peak]

I love what you've done with embrion

[sinful jungle]

you will tomorrow too

[clear cradle]

I never got much feedback for the rebalanced compat changes (or much feedback for my last update, period)

But I would like to know your thoughts Dopa because it is your building(s)

[sinful jungle]

i will check soon

i am working overtime for stupid shit

[clear cradle]

Yeah no rush

I'm looking forward to your Unbalanced Moons update

[sinful jungle]

btw if zeekerss does an april fools update that breaks my shit im jumping off a roof

like that old kermit video maybe

[tawdry peak]

Oh no

[snow kite]

I am betting there will be some update, but probably not a permanent one

Thinking back to the Halloween update

[clear cradle]

I whole-heartedly believe it will be Easter eggs always explode

[high haven]

Would unironically be a buff

[clear cradle]

I mean you can use my mod EasterEggFixes :)

but it would also mean you cannot pick up an egg to sell unless you're gonna hold it until company

[snow kite]

I would be on board with this except it kinda makes Giants a joke, that interaction would have to be changed

[sinful jungle]

ive wasted like so many hours on this patch that im honestly starting to despise it and i want to cancel it despite having already finished it lol

its just such a stupid thing

idk why i wasted my time on this

[dense hull]

What patch?

[sinful jungle]

Those who know 💀

[cinder jackal]

[sinful jungle]

update out now! goodnight everyone and fuck all of u

[versed bone]

I pray it's not an April fools

[sinful jungle]

me too dude

let me know what moon is your favorite in the rework guy's 😁

mine is march!

[dense hull]

I am not installing this in Confined Contract just yet

Gotta double check before doing so in a fresh modpack...

[sinful jungle]

it might steal all ur files

be careful

[dense hull]

It steals?!

[sinful jungle]

:0

[dense hull]

LegsSkibidi

[high haven]

ok but like

[dense hull]

Crow nuts

[high haven]

whats so funny about physicsapi that everyone is adding it to dependencies

[sinful jungle]

I was asked to

[dense hull]

@sinful jungle How do you feel about this

[sinful jungle]

I simply obliged

[dense hull]

Changes scan nodes into jokes and adds stupid pop-ups

[high haven]

is that it

[dense hull]

Pretty much

[high haven]

that doesn't seem worth it for what i'm hearing about it breaking a lot of other mods

[dense hull]

It only breaks RandomEnemiesSize

and it's not that big of a deal since it's not a mod that actually does anything

It will come and go after April 1st

[sinful jungle]

i didnt make it a hard dependency anyways you can just disable it xd

but i had to commit

and i do think its funny

[dense hull]

GitHub reference

[high haven]

i guess so

[sinful jungle]

no you're right

i had a lapse in judgement and it was very fucked of me to do this

[dense hull]

No, I'm left

[sinful jungle]

i will swiftly remove it on april 2nd

[dense hull]

Celestial bunny feels remorse for evil deeds

[sinful jungle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fu8X5m1CS4M

[dense hull]

WAIT DREAM BBQ IS FREE?

[high haven]

im not sure what it is that ever since i started using this app april fools has gotten less funny every year

[dense hull]

I HAVE TO PLAY IT NOW

[high haven]

i'm actually surprised nobody's done the shitty fake ping yet

[sinful jungle]

yes and its very good

[dense hull]

Well yeah it's Joel G

I'm not exactly surprised

[sinful jungle]

it is only one chapter tho

atm

its like 2ish hours long maybe more if you're doing both endings

[dense hull]

Please let the chapters not release like Bendy/Poppy

🙏

[sinful jungle]

not a huge fan of the formula but budget cuts etc

i get it

plus it was fun getting a slice of it now i cant lie

[dense hull]

I mean moreso like

having to pay for each chapter

Like you're 'boutta put yourself in debt by paying for each Poppy Playtime title

I think it was the same for Bendy but Idk

[sinful jungle]

i remember bendy selling chapters individually at some point

maybe not now that the full game is out but it did before

[dense hull]

Yeah

That's what I;m referring to

[sinful jungle]

i think dream bbq will be free entirely

from what i can tell

but the supporter edition adds content throughout the whole game

[dense hull]

Yipee because my ass is broke but I would support Joel G with money if I could

[dense hull]

a

[sinful jungle]

like, nothing crazy

just collectibles and art and stuff

[high haven]

just grabbed it in case i ever want to play it

[dense hull]

Dude, this is ENA

Everything about their world is crazy

[sinful jungle]

yea yea and im definitely buying it lol

[high haven]

got no reason to decline free stuff

[sinful jungle]

but its not super required yk

like u can still enjoy the game free

[dense hull]

Would you accept this free lit pipebomb?

[high haven]

i would normally spend the 10 bucks but as i am currently jobseeking i cannot do that

[dense hull]

Seeking? Seek? Like DOORS?

[high haven]

wasnt that the game that the devs declined a buyout then shut down anyway

or was that pressure

[dense hull]

That did not happen to Pressure no

The game's still being worked on

[high haven]

ok

[sinful jungle]

iirc pressures lead dev is kind of troubled mentally and he has considered selling the game at multiple points

[dense hull]

Zeal considered it but declined after he came to his senses I think

Poor man's in a pretty rough mental state

[sinful jungle]

kind of feel bad

[dense hull]

I feel bad for him

[sinful jungle]

anyways im so conked lol

narpy play dream bbq.. raven you need more whimsy bro

i eep

[dense hull]

Ma'am yes ma'am oorah or whatever
I am God's greatest gamer

[high haven]

gn dopa

[dense hull]

WAIT DUDE THESE FUCK SO MUCH

YOU DID SUCH A GOOD JOB WHAT

[mental breach]

Agree to disagree I prefer the normal layouts for the moons although this is cool ig for April Fools

Even though I likely won't be playing on the Vanilla Moons today lol

Gotta play Wesley's April Fools Update

[dense hull]

Oh yeah no obviously, but these go hard as well

[mental breach]

I only like the Experimentation one tbh

lol

[high haven]

ok but let's not pretend valley embrion isn't cool

[dense hull]

Marsh* but yeah

Ice Experimentation, wasteland Titan, and marsh Embrion are my personal favorites

[high haven]

sure marsh embrion

[dense hull]

They're just so

ough

eyecandy

[high haven]

amethyst artifice is the only one that doesn't look great

[mental breach]

It looks so weird to me but also I think it kinda works cus the Main Entrance area doesn't look like dog shit like Vanilla Embrion

[mental breach]

Nah Wasteland Titan also looks bad

lol

[high haven]

not really

[mental breach]

It does to me

[dense hull]

Bad is really harsh

[sinful jungle]

they're very stupidly thrown together and a majority of the effort was put into not missing anything with the reverb triggers
the only one I think looks kinda good is embrion and dine

rend especially is very ugly and i love it lmfao

[mental breach]

Well I wasn't saying bad as in I hate it lol just bad as in it doesn't vibe with me

[dense hull]

The one I dislike the most is amethyst Artifice but the rest of the swapped moons are great

[mental breach]

I just word things poorly sometimes cus DID makes thinking up words hard plus Autism to boot makes it worse

[dense hull]

Except for the Green Witches

Idk why they’re all ice moons as well

I don’t dislike them as much as Art tho

[sinful jungle]

it was the easiest to swap snow moons with forest ones

and i thought it would piss people off

[keen maple]

is this compatible with MapImprovments?

[dense hull]

Came more of a disappointment to me because I was excited to explore the swapped climates lol

[sinful jungle]

ya but not this version lol

[dense hull]

Well not, “more of.” I wasn’t mad at all

[sinful jungle]

i just thought it was funny and stupid
there is some sort of consistency, only the green witches have blizzard audio and rolling fog

offense/exp/ass are themed more like titan

[dense hull]

Since Experimentation isn’t technically a desert moon, it would’ve been cool if you swapped Experimentation and the Green Witches’ climates instead of reusing the ice climate throughout the early game

but this is a joke not something to marvel at so who cares ultimately

[sinful jungle]

perhaps but i did this in like 3 hours and i was running on fumes

[dense hull]

You were running on what

[sinful jungle]

lol

its a figure of speech

[dense hull]

https://tenor.com/view/roblox-doors-figure-doors-roblox-gif-26573562

Figure

Die lit

[versed bone]

I think people like this cause it's not a major change/annoyance to gameplay

Like I'm definitely going to like this since I'm gonna mess around with the pikmin mod

[cinder jackal]

the new discord ui fucks it badly im in some servers that done it and its so small now

[sinful jungle]

@someone

[obtuse mortar]

Hi

I've been pinged

I am someone

[high haven]

Knowing my friends they would do it anyway

[cinder jackal]

sob..

[zenith dust]

These moons sure are balanced

holy shit why are there so many pumpkins

[bright tiger]

Nothing

[bright tiger]

Another mod did it and I spent an hour figuring out why I had tiny old birds

[tawdry peak]

Kek

[clear cradle]

Love the switcheroo of environments, but I will not be making it compatible with MI

Not worth the effort for a 1 day update

[sinful jungle]

i wouldnt wish that on my worst enemy

[unique wyvern]

now make it standalone

[sinful jungle]

yes please dont account for any bs here

[unique wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/omni-man-omni-man-are-you-sure-are-you-sure-invincible-gif-3935116808772397515

[sinful jungle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/424021395601620993/1344777378550910986/c910f07735994344-1.gif

now i get to maintain 22 scenes instead of 11

[unique wyvern]

do you even need to maintain it though

[zenith dust]

wasteland titan and marsh embrion are probably my favorites

[unique wyvern]

mods needing maintenance is a widespread lie to keep modders shackled

[sinful jungle]

or i can do what melanie does with fancy big ship and just have it constantly outdated

good idea !

[unique wyvern]

exactly!

[sinful jungle]

idk ill probably figure out something later lmfao

maybe an addon

[unique wyvern]

now do each theme for each moon and bundle that with rebalanced moons and add 67 more dependencies

[sinful jungle]

that does it all through code

[unique wyvern]

eh it's not super necessary

this is kinda cool though, in all honesty

[sinful jungle]

it was supposed to be stupid and i expected reactions similar to lunxara lol

especially rend omg what i did to rend pisses me off sm LOL

i blocked off the left path to main entrance with a giant rock and burried the cabin in the ground

also march just str8 up has no main btw

im surprised nobody commented on tht

[zenith dust]

I saw it

but I wanted to keep it a secret for those to learn

[sinful jungle]

lol

i had to account for the inside too

[zenith dust]

it saw it after the "why are there so many fucking pumpkins" bit

[sinful jungle]

i had to do a silly rpc

[unique wyvern]

was it not enough that i geeked out in dms about it

[sinful jungle]

yes that was good

i moreso meant

i expected ppl to rlly hate it

i made all the early game moons snowy to fuck w ppl

[unique wyvern]

well i am a beacon of public opinion, everyone copies my opinions and thoughts so I doubt anyone would think differently than me about it

[zenith dust]

if the convo before was about if you should keep the swaps as further choices, I think only embrion, titan, experimentation and dine should be kept in any regard

maybe march since it has the funny bit

[sinful jungle]

artifice is soo ugly lmfao

[zenith dust]

yeah

its horrible

[sinful jungle]

i immediately noticed

and was like yep this is good

[zenith dust]

I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemies

[unique wyvern]

yeah artifice looks like booty

[sinful jungle]

i think my least favorite is still rend though

like

literally the process of making it was making me cringe at myself lol

[unique wyvern]

im not spoiling myself on that one i guess LOL

[clear cradle]

If you make it an actual thing I'll make a separate MI bundle for the moons

[sinful jungle]

it would prolly dynamically replace materials at runtime

so ideally you wouldn't need to do anything

but idk

effort

i might just not do it at all

[clear cradle]

It's just swapping out materials

[sinful jungle]

its more than that tho

[clear cradle]

I meant on my end

[sinful jungle]

oh

i suppose

i just dont wanna put extra work on you

for a feature that, frankly, doesnt even really interest me personally

[obtuse mortar]

Everytime you make a change you'd have to either make the same change or a similar one if you maintained 11 basically similar scenes too

[sinful jungle]

yeah

so im not doing that lol

i was joking abt maintaining 22 scenes

[clear cradle]

If you do make it a thing I'll put in a lil bit of effort to make a MI branch compatible

Separate mod of course

[sinful jungle]

fuuuck

its always been my dream as a mod dev to join PhysicsTeam LethalCompany

[bright tiger]

When is you make interior mod

[sinful jungle]

when i is feel like it

probably soon

thats all i can say

[bright tiger]

Will it is be not not fire?

[sharp finch]

will it is be not not fire

[bright tiger]

Yay

[sinful jungle]

im sorry that shorted my brain

[bright tiger]

Lol

[sinful jungle]

idk what to say

[bright tiger]

Will it be fire?

[sinful jungle]

idk

it might be cool

i hope

[bright tiger]

Alr lol

Will it be better than vanilla mineshaft? 🤮

[sinful jungle]

shouldnt be too hard

[bright tiger]

Fair enough

[unique wyvern]

we'll welcome you with open arms dopar

[tawdry peak]

Can the interior literally just be fire

Nothing else

[bright tiger]

So you die when u enter the interior because it's nothing but fire?

[tawdry peak]

Yes

[sinful jungle]

I kind of liked snowy march too.,, I think it could be cool as a t3 "hard mode" remix of march with better loot and more danger

the gimmick of it was fun to me and i wish i could've figured out how to ice the water xp

but even then i'd have to add some way for the player to die

like ice shattering

vow is meh

[bright tiger]

Hear me out

Blizzard/snowy versions of all maps

(like the paid moons and artifice blizzard mod)

[sharp finch]

i think it'd be cool if artifice was a snowy map

[sinful jungle]

oh yeah

do you

i couldn't tell

🤭

[bright tiger]

Also artifice blizzard made the blizzard fog thing minimum lower

So I can put it to 1.0 now >:)

[unique wyvern]

snowy weather:

https://tenor.com/view/mercy-overwatch-come-here-gif-14280244

[sinful jungle]

ye like

i was gonna say but i didnt wanna be pretentious

lethal elements is kind of good imo

[unique wyvern]

so you're calling me pretentious....

[sinful jungle]

NO

like

i just didnt wanna be like hueuheuhue use another mod

[unique wyvern]

LMAO

[bright tiger]

Oh yeah isn't that something in the new amazing physicsAPI mod?

[sinful jungle]

nono

[unique wyvern]

actually yeah!

[sinful jungle]

wait really

lol what

[bright tiger]

Man I shouldn't give it a download

[sinful jungle]

i was looking through the source code and i didnt see that lmfao

i did see a ton of funny shit though

[bright tiger]

Erm??????

[sinful jungle]

the light switch made me laugh so muchidk why

and the teleporter

[bright tiger]

What is bro yapping about

Honestly the only reason I noticed the mod

In the first place

[sinful jungle]

you'll see lol

[bright tiger]

(I never even went inside with it on)

[sinful jungle]

i guess

[bright tiger]

Was the tiny baby old birds

[sinful jungle]

have you bothered trying to toggle the light switch..?

[bright tiger]

No

[sinful jungle]

I think you should

[bright tiger]

I chucked the mod into the red sea as soon as I i figured what was causing that stuff

[unique wyvern]

its fucking evil and im mad i didn't come up with it LMAO

[sinful jungle]

dude

no

the most evil feature is the Vent Thing

that i wont elaborate on

[bright tiger]

Ngl you should have put malware in the mod so you could never get rid of it (jk)

[sinful jungle]

it rlly takes the cake for me i love that sm lmfao

[bright tiger]

Pls elaborate

[unique wyvern]

nah

you shuold play it methinks

[bright tiger]

[unique wyvern]

[bright tiger]

I'm not playing it

Don't u just die when u go inside

[sinful jungle]

ur loss fool..

[unique wyvern]

cope seethe mald

[bright tiger]

Idk I never went inside sooo

[unique wyvern]

honestly yeah

[sinful jungle]

i went inside and it didnt kill me

[unique wyvern]

that and the weather stuff is funny as hell

[sinful jungle]

so idk

[bright tiger]

I thought like

It made the map rotate

Or was that another mod

[unique wyvern]

figure it out

:-)

[bright tiger]

No

Im not downloading that mod

[bright tiger]

It took me an hour to figure out the mod cuz I downloaded like 10 at once

I hate the mod

Biggest opp

[bright tiger]

I'm not listening to all that

[unique wyvern]

this shoulda stayed the title screen music

[sinful jungle]

just click the damn sun

[unique wyvern]

I KNOWWW

[sinful jungle]

nnah but im fr too lazy to click it every time lol

theres like

[unique wyvern]

but i like hearing that on boot up...

[sinful jungle]

a texture pack that swaps them

theres also one that makes it the console version

[unique wyvern]

it was for real fucking mythical booting up the game and hearing that shit

[sinful jungle]

which i love a lot more

[unique wyvern]

oh ye that one's cool too

I just like how mysterious the 1.3 title screen sounds

i fucks with it, even though the 1.4 theme was amazing too

[sinful jungle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrRmVoN860s

me like

maybe its a bit extra but i fw it

[unique wyvern]

we should make generic play terraria with us

[unique wyvern]

it is a lil but it's sick anywayy

[sinful jungle]

it gets so crazy at 0:55 for no reason

i love it

[tawdry peak]

You know

We had a mod last night that added snow as a weather modifier

It was quite lovely looking

[sinful jungle]

lethal elements?

[tawdry peak]

||the snow was annoying though lol||

Uhhh probably

[sinful jungle]

ye

[tawdry peak]

Does that add heat wave and solar flare

[sinful jungle]

it slows u and ur supposed to use a shovel

yes

[tawdry peak]

We turned off toxic and blizzard

Yeah it's fun

[unique wyvern]

you just gotta follow the same path on each commute, basically

unless you're talking blizzard, which I haven't experienced so idk a strat for it

[tawdry peak]

Yeah that was what we ended up doing

[unique wyvern]

you can also use the cruiser for snowy and shovels too i think?

[sinful jungle]

ye shovel clears snow

[tawdry peak]

Oooo cruiser use?

[unique wyvern]

well actually i might be lying idk

[sinful jungle]

no

the cruiser does clear snow

[unique wyvern]

i recall voxx saying cruiser wheels got rid of some of the snow

oh sick

[sinful jungle]

forest keepers do too

[unique wyvern]

cruiser wins yet again

[sinful jungle]

i think anything with a collider does

[unique wyvern]

now.... does jetpack delete snow too

[sinful jungle]

lmfao

idk

[unique wyvern]

oooh VOOOOXXX

https://tenor.com/view/hog-rider-coc-clash-of-clans-gif-24053135

[bright tiger]

please update the mod again

im tired of seeing the update avalible thing

[sinful jungle]

tomorrow

[unique wyvern]

10pm?

[bright tiger]

guys is 1.0 blizzard fog distance a lil to harsh?

[high haven]

don't know if the cruiser clears out snow but it isn't affected by it like the player is

it doesnt get slowed down

[unique wyvern]

ye thats what I was thinking

[high haven]

its like the only thing that isnt affected by it

[sinful jungle]

i already said it does

[high haven]

i didnt see

[sinful jungle]

o

its not like

amazing

but it does clear snow where u drive

a little better than a shovel does id say

[high haven]

good to know

[unique wyvern]

i mean balance wise it makes sense to do so

[high haven]

i didnt know the shovel did either

so

[unique wyvern]

ye! idk if that stuff's in the readme honestly but it's a good use for both

gives the ship person/gopher something to do while outside too

[unique wyvern]

super eclipsed rebalanced assurance is legitimately the hardest map in the game now

[clear cradle]

Literally a black screen

[unique wyvern]

legit LMAO

[sinful jungle]

LMFAOO

tbf its 12am

[unique wyvern]

ye LOL

super eclipsed makes it so it's always 12am and the ship can't leave

[sinful jungle]

oh wtf

hell

[high haven]

how do you leave then

do you just have to wait for the timer to make the ship leave by itself

[sinful jungle]

i think they mean the ship cant leave on its own

[unique wyvern]

yeah

[high haven]

oh

so it has to be a player to make it leave

[unique wyvern]

it's actually super fun

iirc I sent a clip somewhere but i've literally only played rebalanced moons with super eclipsed actually

idk why

[unique wyvern]

mhm

either player or full wipe

[high haven]

got it

sounds kinda fun

[unique wyvern]

what's most fun is that it can add itself on top of other weathers

so you can have Eclipsed Super Eclipsed

which leads to stuff like this: https://medal.tv/games/lethal-company/clips/jTWpcc7sBdilGG2EV?invite=cr-MSxGeTYsMjYyMzg4OTQx

basically Super Eclipsed + Eclipsed makes it so there's triple the spawns

or it multiplies power level by 3, i forget

probably the latter since caps still apply

[cinder jackal]

oh my god its evil rebalanced moons i just saw..

[sinful jungle]

Rebalanced Moons + Atlas

ill undo the april fools shit in a minute

you will probably never see any of the content from it again (sorry)

but hey it was fun lol

[sinful jungle]

ok the mod is normal now

[obtuse mortar]

but i like it when mod is special

reminds me of myself

😔

[sinful jungle]

hi xu

[obtuse mortar]

hi dopa

my phone is really tempted to call you dopamine

[sinful jungle]

lol

[sinful jungle]

this me

[obtuse mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/pussy-cat-cute-kitty-kitten-cat-gif-16800925

This is me

[tawdry peak]

Yes what's your question?

[visual talon]

bu-but desert rend

I think only offense turned out to not be enjoyable, out of all the remixes. I think you peaked with them

[cunning steeple]

super eclipsed? 💀

[proper estuary]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/MillieTheSilly/SuperEclipse/

probably talking about this thing
it does too turn every game to eclipse-ish and set's an hour to 12 AM

[bright tiger]

Its pretty much

[proper estuary]

it's not enough

[bright tiger]

Your always in those situations

Because there's a ton of enemies

[proper estuary]

just a few

[bright tiger]

Supereclipse + eclipse weather is fire

[bright tiger]

Go adamance

[proper estuary]

x3 power for example

[bright tiger]

[bright tiger]

Ik

[proper estuary]

too easy

[bright tiger]

Go embrion

[proper estuary]

what about super eclipse + blackout... on every moon

[proper estuary]

meh, just a robots

[bright tiger]

What about

Super eclipse + every weather at the same time

[proper estuary]

I need to modify my modpack into that
this'll be fun

[proper estuary]

M Y P C

https://tenor.com/view/laptop-smoking-fire-burning-lag-gif-19373925

[bright tiger]

But the vanilla weathers

Not all the modded ones

[proper estuary]

I know

naw bro
snowfall and blizzard would make it explode

not just burn

[bright tiger]

So rainy + flooded + stormy + foggy + eclipse + super eclipse 🤑

[unique wyvern]

LMAO

it's not actually a weather I don't think?

it's not rolled randomly it's just always there

it's weird and idk how it works internally

[bright tiger]

It's always

[unique wyvern]

I literally said that

[bright tiger]

Ok

[bright tiger]

Erm so hear me out

Is this mod compatible with map improvements

[sinful jungle]

idk

@clear cradle is this mod compatible with mapimprovements

[obtuse mortar]

stupid question, why would it be

smh

[clear cradle]

Which mod?

[sinful jungle]

sorry i was joking around

i meant RBM

[clear cradle]

I think Atlas is incompatible

[sinful jungle]

lmfao

id tweak if it was

theres no way

[clear cradle]

Now I'm the one joking around

[sinful jungle]

u almost got me..

[obtuse mortar]

april fools...

no wait

[sinful jungle]

what if every april 2nd was april fools 2

i think everyone would like that

[obtuse mortar]

uploading coderebirth 3 rn

[clear cradle]

What if the whole of April was April fools

[tawdry peak]

The latest nintendo direct was the biggest April fools

Really mean of them to tempt people with all these cool games

[dense hull]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1147608357906174076/1288361855840026725/incident.gif

[sinful jungle]

oh oh oh hi there

[bright tiger]

So is it compatable

[bright tiger]

Welcome to my-

[sinful jungle]

ya

[bright tiger]

Supposed lol

[versed bone]

Hey-

is the water tower in march a vanilla addition?

Or from this mod?

[dense hull]

Mod

[versed bone]

Ah okay

cause I'm making my own custom logs for my modpack.

well one so far

[plush elk]

have the fire exits coupling up been fixed?

i genuinely cannot tell if ive been having really convenient luck or its still bugged

[high haven]

Do you use butteryfixes or fireexitfix

[sinful jungle]

thats not something for me to fix

buttery has a mod that fixes it

[plush elk]

buttery

ill look into it

thanks yall

❤️

[clear cradle]

It's so weird how this has become so common in the last month for no discernable reason

[plush elk]

huh?

[sinful jungle]

a lot of ppl have been reporting this

its more or less an anomaly

[plush elk]

i see

[plush elk]

SCP core

[dense hull]

Vow

Volition

Wither

Seems like Atlas is generally not compatible with custom moons, at least if you're wanting the sky to look realistic

[sinful jungle]

all it does is replace the sky texture, its very much compatible

[dense hull]

Do you plan to look in this, if this is even an issue on your end?

[sinful jungle]

sky exposure is variable

[dense hull]

Why's Atlas' skys broken during eclipses on these custom moons then?

These are all the same skybox btw

Valley

[sinful jungle]

ya i can tell i just dont see what the issue is

[dense hull]

Well, should I say moreso the eclipse is broken, not Atlas' sky

[sinful jungle]

moon creators can control the brightness (exposure) of the sky

its not the same for every moon

[dense hull]

Same thing in vanilla, yet they're just fine?

OH

of the sky

I guess this is an issue that can't really be fixed then?

[sinful jungle]

the code just gets the cedar bridge texture and throws it out and replaces it

i do nothing else

so there's nothing i can rlly do abt that

[dense hull]

Weird

[sinful jungle]

also the 2nd one is attenuation

[dense hull]

FUCK

Sorry

Just acknowledge Vow and Wither then, I guess

Since Atten uses the Canyon skybox

[sinful jungle]

Does withers sky darken at night with atlas?

[dense hull]

IIRC yes, but let me check

Fog horn sound effect

[sinful jungle]

I check for both the day and night volumes and in the vanilla scenes theyre named "Sky and Fog Global Volume" and "Sky and Fog Global Volume (1)" exactly

and it blends between the two to darken the sky

if a custom moon renames one it'll break atlas

[dense hull]

Oh

So that's why Wesley's moons aren't compatible with Atlas?

[sinful jungle]

Maybe? its hard to say for sure without access to his stuff

[dense hull]

Have c00lkidd hack his pc and obtain his shit like a Men in Black movie

[sinful jungle]

bro

im sorry? c00lkid?

[dense hull]

Roblox hacker

[sinful jungle]

pretty sure that dude has a family now

i know who that is

[dense hull]

https://youtu.be/awYrdFLviOc?si=MW8581l69sWLggKU

[clear cradle]

I'm glad I don't have to worry about this with my custom moons because one is in space and one is always overcast

[sinful jungle]

atlas also just purposefully ignores moons that dont use the cedar bridge sky anyways

like i check for the name of the texture

[dense hull]

Hrm.

[sinful jungle]

to verify

[dense hull]

It's fine now

Also yeah, it darkens

[sinful jungle]

hm

weird

maybe the code hiccuped trying to replace shit

?

idfk lol

if thats even possible

anyways ..

i should update atlas to add a failsafe

so that if it fails to replace the night sky or something it just doesnt do its thing

[dense hull]

Um

I'm conflicted

Do you fuck /w Amethyst Wither

[sinful jungle]

oh huh lol

[sinful jungle]

was this done with the stupid overrides config i added

[dense hull]

No I mean

Should I keep it

Does the black sky look good with Wither's environment

[sinful jungle]

it looks cool methinks

[sinful jungle]

but is that what it is

[dense hull]

Ues

Yes

[sinful jungle]

o

cool it works

lol

[dense hull]

Yuh

[woven tiger]

you can blend between volumes????

[sharp finch]

it's a vanilla bug but vanilla also conveniently avoids the issue due to some expensive code

basically if FindExitPoint() gets called on an EntranceTeleport with ID 1 (the first fire exit) on any map that generates more than one fire exit (just March in vanilla) before RoundManager.SetExitIDs runs

it would allow that fire exit to pick any of the exits on the inside as a destination since they would all still be ID 1

[sharp finch]

all exterior entrances call this function 10 seconds after the scene loads, so if the dungeon had generated by then but exit IDs weren't set, it would cause the first fire exit to cache the wrong destination

the reason this problem didn't manifest for months is because in vanilla, using an entrance teleport re-searches the scene and picks the destination again every single time

i had included an optimization in butteryfixes about a month back because i didnt think that additional search would be necessary, but that optimization would allow the wrong warp to "stick" for the rest of the day

then i made the mod to fix it because i forgot about that optimization i made (lol)

the reason i deprecated the mod is because i could just change butteryfixes' optimization to not increase the severity of the bug

and if you dont use butteryfixes, you wouldnt need a fix mod anyway

[clear cradle]

So you optimized, exposed the problem, then sold the solution lol?

I made sure that MI assigns different fire exit IDs, but I guess if it's the inside ones causing the problem I can't do anything about that

But people still seem to be having an issue even when using your fixes?

[sharp finch]

well the underlying bug will always be there

at least until matty's entrance patches get released, i assume (he changes a lot more about the entrance teleport logic)

i accidentally caused the teleport issue by preventing vanilla's logic from resolving the bug in an update to butteryfixes back in march

and the latest version has updated logic which prevents it from occurring

i made the standalone mod before it was confirmed that my optimization was causing issues (it is very obvious in hindsight but i forgot i made the change)

and once it was i just changed the optimization to not cause issues anymore

i haven't seen anybody report the issue occurring since the update on the 27th

[sinful jungle]

filesize is prolly doubling next update in favor of less ram usage

sorry not sorry ig

[bright tiger]

[obtuse mortar]

the greatest of choices require the strongest of wills

https://tenor.com/view/heyyyyy-cute-cat-cat-sophisticated-sophistication-gif-13303524

[wind marlin]

who is this diva

an absolute runway killer

[sinful jungle]

this means more fps probably!!

for the record

:[

[clear cradle]

What are you doing to optimize?

[sinful jungle]

splitting all the moons into their own bundles

so that only one is loaded at a time

rn all the moons are loaded into ram at once bc of how lll works

[high haven]

oh

i thought they were separate already lol

never noticed that the ram usage from them was always up

[unique wyvern]

that's a dope change

[high haven]

[sinful jungle]

titan snow is also kinda bluish now but i wanna see how it looks ingame first

[clear cradle]

so I could delete the moons that I do not want?

[unique wyvern]

im mad I didn't get to see wasteland titan so im going to hop ingame today with the old update

graah

[sinful jungle]

probably

lol

[clear cradle]

Dopa casually taking up a quarter of a gig

why is march so big

[sinful jungle]

water

idk why adamance is smaller tho

xp

[proper grotto]

These moons sure are rebalanced

https://tenor.com/view/cat-thumbs-up-cat-thumbs-up-meme-stock-image-gif-27117830

[sinful jungle]

this is so funny to me

i genuinely cant fathom how march is smaller than adamance after compression

[high haven]

do you change any terrain in march

[sinful jungle]

no

[high haven]

thats probably why

[sinful jungle]

no it isnt

lol

the bundle before compression is less than half as big

the mesh for the terrain is like

kilobytes its 3.9mb as apposed to adamance which is 2.6mb

[high haven]

hmm

[sinful jungle]

you can see here adamance is way bigger

bc it has a grass texture thats 1024x (but tiled 0.5x)

[sinful jungle]

this still doesnt explain the rest of the filesize though ig

textures just compress better than meshes ?

i assume

[high haven]

i guess

[sinful jungle]

bt adamance has like two complex bridge meshes and the cabin

march doesnt have a lot going on

it has the one bridge i added i guess

[sinful jungle]

have you seen how big wesley's moons is

btw

i thought it was like 400mb

its not

[clear cradle]

as long as I can just remove the moons I dont want I don't care how big your mod is

[sinful jungle]

i mean uh

maybe

you'll probably still have to turn off scene overrides for that moon in the config

or it'll throw an error

trying to land

[clear cradle]

just put in a null reference check

[sinful jungle]

i cant, unless LLL has some function for checking if a scene exists in runtime

[dense hull]

This is good

[clear cradle]

now you gotta see if you can get multiple

[dense hull]

Idk if I'm just getting shit luck, but are ogopogos just not compatible with either of y'alls mods

I've only ever had them spawn on Vow, while they're completely absent on March and Adamance despite their weights being really high

Oh yeah completely forgot about this guy lol

Nevermind I lied?? What the fuck is wrong with this entity

[clear cradle]

Go forth and gather info on how ogogopogogogo spawns

[dense hull]

It's so inconsistent

[unique wyvern]

i just got them on the snowy march from the april fools update lol

[unique wyvern]

i know exactly how and your stuff probably shouldn't work any different than any other custom moon

so it's probably bad luck

[unique wyvern]

you know every daytime spawn is like, 100 weight on vanilla moons right

what weight do you have them at?

[dense hull]

95 for Ada, 50 for March, and 37 for Vow, mind you there aren't usually a lot of entities in the roster themselves either, so they should actually be more common than anything

[unique wyvern]

yeah that's close to what my weights are

I make my weights the way they are so that my enemies are not overly common and therefore play better with basegame

[sinful jungle]

btw if theres any specific gripes you have about certain moons or anything, im open to feedback

i kinda had to go out of my way to see what ppls opinions were on the fire exit on march; nobody really outright told me it wasn't fun xp

[clear cradle]

It's more for MI. I just prefer mine over yours/They conflict (experimentation)

[sinful jungle]

ohhh yes experimentation is totally reasonable

im actually planning on making a config to add the building's interior back specifically for MI compat

but id have to do a lot of junk at runtime

[clear cradle]

We love doing junk at runtime

[sinful jungle]

the thing that kinda sucks abt disabling scene overrides is that the vanilla scenes get the terrain stretching then the moons start to look inconsistent

but its more of a nitpick

so ideally i want to add more config stuff to just disable the changes they make

ill probably have to refactor config sections though

its kind of messy just having stuff under "client" or "server" with the amount of options

[clear cradle]

maybe put them under moon categories?

then specify if its client-side or not in the description?

[sinful jungle]

ye

[mental breach]

So this is why ram usage didn't go down til I landed on a moon

[obtuse mortar]

yeah i wrote teh code for ti before and i wanted everyone to suffer

[high haven]

wait huh

i was wondering why my ram usage lowered over time

[sinful jungle]

kind of
basically it would load all moon bundles on lobby creation

and it would only unload them if you route to them and then route off

individually

so like Shit

so yeah your ram would essentially just lower over time playing sobbing

[obtuse mortar]

call it a performance mod

lowers over time

[mental breach]

@sinful jungle I'm actually glad you made it so the moons aren't in a AIO bundle anymore, AIO bundles actually fuck with hot loading a little

Something Rosie discovered

[sinful jungle]

it didnt break anything

it just wasnt ideal

in laymans, being on any vanilla moon would have all 11 of the rebalanced moons scenes loaded into active memory at once

it was Fine for gameplay but probably not the best for ram on lower end machines

for me the update made no difference, this is before and after

Btw have you ever had this happen again

because I remember experiencing this before

I have no fucking clue what in the game is causing it

but it drove me nuts

[mental breach]

Nah after you fixed Ass it didn't seem to happen again

[sinful jungle]

the hell

weird

[dense hull]

Nah after you fixed Ass

This out of context is great

[sinful jungle]

narpy have u ever experienced it before

you play this game a lot

[dense hull]

What

[sinful jungle]

like

when you land on a moon the audio will be behind you

[dense hull]

I... don't think so

What moon specifically

[mental breach]

I think it was just a reverb trigger being weird, sometimes if you move at the right timing as the ship is gonna land it happens

[sinful jungle]

i dont think it was any specific moon

i remember it happening to me on like march

but also i havent had it happen in a while

so idk, i guess i wont worry about it

[cinder jackal]

YES YES I HAVE its awful

[sinful jungle]

when did it happen to you last

[cinder jackal]

i don't remember but it was before april 1st

[sinful jungle]

was it this year?

[cinder jackal]

yes

[sinful jungle]

damn

hm

yea idk what causes it

[cinder jackal]

it was on titan too

[sinful jungle]

i dont really think its a reverb trigger error though

because a. it can happen anywhere

and b. reverb triggers dont affect where you hear audio from

i think its something with the underlying audio engine like failing

[mental breach]

@half lion You should prolly also make DistinctMoonVariety not have merged LethalBundles btw, it's better to keep them seperated

@river ferry I was surprised to see you merged your interiors into one bundle btw although idk if it matters as much for interiors

[half lion]

how come?

[river ferry]

why

[mental breach]

Causes a bit of issues with hot loading that Rosie discovered mostly, for interiors it likely doesn't matter since they don't hot load lol

[river ferry]

didnt even have anything to do with this conversation 😭

[mental breach]

I just brought it up cus you're the first person I've seen do it

c;

I just hope that doesn't make it more annoying to update them tbh

and like dopa said when you're routed to one moon in DistinctMoonVariety when they're merged it will force all of them to load into ram instead of that specific moon

This explains why with StarlancerMoons I get like a 10 second freeze anytime I route to one of his moons, Solace is beefy and has to forcefully load into ram with the other moons

lol

[mental breach]

Yeah atm it doesn't matter, I just wanted to bring it up since I'm surprised you didn't keep them seperated for ease of use and updating them easier tbh

But maybe merging them brought down the size some and that is understandable

Btw Generic you should join us for REPO sometime

Haven't played with you in a while

[half lion]

i can probably split the moons sometime when i'm free. This month has just been very busy cuz I'm working on a game project for college

[mental breach]

Understandable lol

[obtuse mortar]

routing to a moon and getting a freeze is unrelated to any bundle loading stuff, LLL does it async so it shouldnt impact your game much, itll just lock the lever until its done

[mental breach]

Starlancer's freeze when routing to them cus Solace is so large, Rosies Moons also freeze if you use her full package atm cus it has to load all those into ram due to being merged

That's how she discovered it cus she was testing hot loading

[obtuse mortar]

if they're not hot reloadable, they're always loaded to begin with

and if they are, they'll load over time so it shouldnt induce any freezes

[mental breach]

Exactly, the thing is they are hot reload compatible but the LethalBundles are merged, so it loads all the moons at once into ram instead of the one specific moon when routing to one of them

so there is a freeze since LLL has to load it all at once

This only happens with Starlancers and Rosies atm as far as I'm aware, but it's why merging the Lethalbundles is bad for moons

Batby at one point a while ago told the dev of LunarLights not to merge their moons into one bundle and now I understand why

XD

Okay well now it doesn't do it lol, that might be cus of LethalPerformance though

XD

I have the experimental 0.0.127 installed

which caches a lot

that or it only happens in Multi

eh whatever

c;

I've also debloated my pack by quite a large amount so that likely helps too

LOL

Actually it does happen but it's much shorter, so yeah prolly Multi extends the freeze for some reason

[sinful jungle]

Still dont know what you mean by this

to my knowledge if done correctly it doesnt cause any issues

[mental breach]

Just the freezing issue I mentioned which is likely cus of your discovery

[sinful jungle]

ohhh

yes that makes sense

merged bundles are kind of hefty to load in realtime

so yea ur right

[mental breach]

Yeah

[dense hull]

@sinful jungle Dude

my memory is at like 35% with the most recent RM update