RebalancedMoons + Atlas

[sinful jungle]

my moons still have the christmas shit lol

[dense hull]

Yeah Idk why there isn't a mod to just flat out remove them already, or at least to make them explodable

[sinful jungle]

whaat no i love them

i wish u could run them over

thouugh

[dense hull]

Drive a Cruiser on v60 Christmas Dine and tell me how you like it

Emoji_ScavengerRIP1

[sinful jungle]

hence why i said

[dense hull]

Question mark?

What r u tryna do

[sinful jungle]

.

[dense hull]

OH

If u could do that for Rend and Titan as well, that'd be nice

[sinful jungle]

eh

maybe another time

[dense hull]

Fair

[sharp finch]

the data logs have inconsistent scaling yeah

[sinful jungle]

hi

trying to figure out whats causing this on my offense

bc as far as i can see theres no missing audio sources

so im a bit puzzled

[obtuse mortar]

this would be the line that the error comes from (as far as i can tell)

[sinful jungle]

Uh

I dont know how I fixed it

but I did

cool

[obtuse mortar]

nice, cuz i have no idea how that was error'ing from looking at the error

lol

[sinful jungle]

it was also causing the player light to stop working

isnt that interesting

like how on earth would the two be connected

[obtuse mortar]

well IL number 001F is what was shown in the error, and what that's doing is loading the field allPlayerScripts, which im not sure how that would error unless you called those methods really early before the array was even made? idk, but it's nice that it works

[sinful jungle]

updat e

@dense hull light worky now

[dense hull]

FoxHappy

[tawdry spruce]

NO

FUCK

SANTA

[sharp finch]

sorry i was looking at this and got distracted and forgot to follow up

but i guess you fixed it

so all is well

[sinful jungle]

hi

[dense hull]

Santa is DEAD

[sinful jungle]

btw i didnt delete the star object i disabled it

thats

not a problem right

[sharp finch]

you're not supposed to delete it

[sinful jungle]

oh ok

[sharp finch]

zeekers just disabled it as well

[sinful jungle]

i figured so

[zenith dust]

theres also fog in the facility

[dense hull]

I have indoor fog disabled

They acknowledged that it was indeed a RM issue anyway, and it has since been fixed

[zenith dust]

I didn't mean the fog event thing, I meant that the standard fog outside was in the facility but now looking at it I think that was fixed somehow (or maybe it never existed)

[rancid gale]

I am also proud even though you do not know me 🎉

[daring nexus]

friend had desyncs and had mineshaft or facility everytime making them fall through the floor dying every single time. Then I disabled this mod and it fixed everything.

my friend couldn't get the log

but it happens every time

[tawdry spruce]

and this is on the latest version of the mod?

V1.5.1?

[daring nexus]

yup

[sinful jungle]

i cant reproduce ima need like a profile code or something

[daring nexus]

our friend group modpack with 129 mods. Rebalanced comes disabled for now.||01942525-0fc4-0dbb-2ed5-be19505bc455||

[sinful jungle]

ill look in a sec

[sinful jungle]

dude ugh why do you have so many moons

this shit is killing my pc trying to load two instances at once lol

[sinful jungle]

anyways uh
if im not able to figure this out
you can disable the interior overrides in the config

that will prevent the code from running entirely on both ends

so

[wind marlin]

disable moon mods

that you aren't using

always a good idea if doing multiple instances of the game at once lol

[sinful jungle]

well

i kind of need everything to be loaded

it could be a conflict

[wind marlin]

It's extremely extremely unlikely to be another moon doing anything

[sinful jungle]

yeah well i can see whats going on

the network manager isnt working on this modpack for some reason

it just throws errors when i land

[sinful jungle]

idk what it is tbh but you have multiple things that spammed errors in console for me, both some dice mod and disckjockey (which i notice has not been updated in 11 months)

[daring nexus]

The dice mod is fine and the disc jockey works perfectly fine

[sinful jungle]

im just saying

your modpack throws network handler errors whenever you land and it could be related

but i wasnt even able to get the interiors to desync in lan

also you can remove companycruiserfix

it doesn't do anything anymore

[mental breach]

Yeah I removed the moon mods I had that relied on it and LTB

[daring nexus]

It says wesleys moons pack requires it

r u sure?

[tawdry spruce]

i’m pretty sure it is still required for wesleys moons

[sinful jungle]

oh weird

nevermind then

i dont play with wesleys so thats mb

[tawdry spruce]

yeah he hasn’t updated them yet so landing there spams the console with pre-V50

[minor thicket]

Huh https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/SpookyBuddy/MapImprovements/

[daring nexus]

honestly pretty cool variety

[sinful jungle]

yeah thats really neat

[dense hull]

Dude WHAT that's so cool

Artifice though is mid for having Company-related stuff in it, but every other moon in here is great

[minor thicket]

same person also just released a mod that adds more random props(like the pumpkins, big rocks, etc)

[mental breach]

I checked it out but idk how I feel about that

It changes them up way too much and way too subjectively

[dense hull]

Hopefully its configgable

[minor thicket]

heavily cfgable seemingly

[daring nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/gif-gif-20744540

[mental breach]

Yeah but the screenshots suck

they're too small

[minor thicket]

100%

[mental breach]

Also the configs are just for the diff layouts

[minor thicket]

def needs a test run

[daring nexus]

trust me I tried it out

[mental breach]

I probably won't use it

[dense hull]

I think that's just Thunderstore being goofy the way it's formatted

[daring nexus]

seems awesome

[dense hull]

But I'm trying it out regardless after I get this Endless Pressure badge

This is rlly interesting

RebalancedMoons and this mod going together in my modpack will be awesome

[tawdry spruce]

wait

[sinful jungle]

uh

idk if thats a good idea

[tawdry spruce]

oh

[sinful jungle]

i have no idea how this mod works TBF

but

[dense hull]

You can config it apparently

So both can work in tandem

[tawdry spruce]

OOOOOOOHHHH

[sinful jungle]

would be neat

[tawdry spruce]

wait dude that’s actually really cool

[mental breach]

I already was skeptical to use this mod but it keeps things much more minimal and I prefer minimal changes over huge layout changes that go against Zeekerss' intended design

[minor thicket]

im just most surprised the the other mod doesn't use LLL

[dense hull]

I just want more decorated moons

[sinful jungle]

I glanced at the code and its

interesting

[dense hull]

Still brutalist and generally desolate moons, but still more to look at nonetheless

[daring nexus]

I like the fact of having chances for the new stuff to spawn

thats awesome

[sinful jungle]

https://github.com/Spookybuddy/LC-Mods/blob/main/MapImprovements/Patches/RoundManagerPatch.cs#L37

i appreciate the dedication to being a standalone mod

[tawdry spruce]

i thought it was just showing all the changes they made but no it’s like

[mental breach]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/SpookyBuddy/CustomOutsideObjects/ This is probably more interesting to me

[tawdry spruce]

seperated into different sections of config

[sinful jungle]

but with LLL this could have been really easily done with LLL's scene selection stuff

and not through like whatever this is

[mental breach]

Oh that is a mess

Yeah no thanks

[minor thicket]

may wanna tell them that lol

[sinful jungle]

idk its probably fine

im just saying it could've been done simpler with LLL i guess

but not everyone wants to use that

so

thats fine

[dense hull]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1204432295025578014/1320462293951315998/twitter_1867376822478156069.gif

[sinful jungle]

I'm locking you away

[gloomy moth]

They could've just checked using a contain condition

[tawdry spruce]

waittt

[mental breach]

The changes to Dine I'm not a fan of at all in it

[tawdry spruce]

would editing/adding stuff to moons include

[mental breach]

All of them change it too much

[tawdry spruce]

the company building??

holllld up

[sinful jungle]

i dont think so

[tawdry spruce]

the ideas are flowing

[mental breach]

Artifice as well

[tawdry spruce]

the ideas stopped

[sinful jungle]

company building doesnt run generateNewFloor

and this mod uses that to apply the stuff

it seems

[tawdry spruce]

ah

shucks

[mental breach]

I likely won't use the mods tbh, they're cool but just do too much and take away from vanilla too much

Not really Map Improvments when they're all practically redesigns

[sinful jungle]

it looks neat to me

but id need to see it ingame i think

[tawdry spruce]

festive company building is an idea that must be served at a later date

[minor thicket]

good way to mix it up when youve been to the moons a million times

[mental breach]

The minimal changes in this mod I like cus I prefer to keep the vanilla aesthetic in tact and it's nice to keep Zeekerss' design flow in mind

[tawdry spruce]

true yeah

i should check out the mod

[sinful jungle]

interesting

[mental breach]

I'm just not a fan of it not feeling like something Zeekerss would do

[tawdry spruce]

some of the screenshot locations aren’t the best

[mental breach]

If they were new moons it'd be different

[sinful jungle]

oh lunxara

you said you played with RBM today right

[mental breach]

Ye

[sinful jungle]

were you like

[mental breach]

Went to Titan

[sinful jungle]

falling through the world and shit

[mental breach]

No

[sinful jungle]

ok cool

someone reported it earlier but i couldnt reproduce :/

[minor thicket]

WAIT in the cfg there is a chance for when landing it to be either the vanilla moon or the modded layout

thats sick

[sinful jungle]

oh neat

[daring nexus]

I'll get the log for that later (whenever my friend hosts I'll get the log on my end for that)

[sinful jungle]

i really wonder if it crashes and burns with this

[tawdry spruce]

oh wait yeah i remember reading that

on vow it said changes B and C were randomized

[mental breach]

Still isn't gonna make me use it I'm not adding additional bloat to my pack when I don't agree with the changes

[minor thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/test-gif-18079678347053986461

skill issue

[mental breach]

Not saying it's a bad mod ofc I just don't personally agree with it

[minor thicket]

yeah thats fair im just trollin

im in love becasue I cant stand vanilla anymore XD

so I gotta mod everything to be less vanilla

[dense hull]

Have you even tried it out?

[minor thicket]

/j

[mental breach]

No but I checked out the screenshots and a lot of the changes are just a bit too much

[dense hull]

You should probably look at the full thing before coming to a finale decision, because it might not be what it seems

[sinful jungle]

sam can u see if it dies with this lol

[dense hull]

After Pressure yeah

[sinful jungle]

ok

[dense hull]

Door 353

If I die now I'm going to fucking lose it

I've been here for almost 3+ hours

[sinful jungle]

oh wait

@minor thicket i was wrong

i just glanced through it

and i didnt notice but

it does have a method for changing the company building

[minor thicket]

hm

[tawdry spruce]

oh dude i’m actually gonna have so much fun with this

[tawdry spruce]

OOOHHHH the ideas are flowing again

[minor thicket]

oh shit there are even options to combine the different layouts

of the same moon

[sinful jungle]

damn i should just deprecate this again fr

https://tenor.com/view/renuu-thanos-rest-peaceful-gif-20831938

[mental breach]

No way I adore this mod

[sinful jungle]

I kid

[tawdry spruce]

you goin outta business

[sinful jungle]

I still have to realize Sam's building designs too

i plan on making those options

[tawdry spruce]

dude to have multiple mods changing the scene and it actually being compatible like that would go inSANE

[minor thicket]

How about we delete all mods :3

[minor thicket]

this is gonna take a while for me to cfg lol

even if this mod isnt for everyone the tools are cool

[tawdry spruce]

yeah no the second i get home from school

FIELD day i’m TELLIN you

[mental breach]

Why are you back in School already?

[tawdry spruce]

that’s what i’m sayin

[mental breach]

It's only the 2nd day after New Year's

[dense hull]

I died at door 400 due to turret bullshit, I fucking hate this game

[tawdry spruce]

we got 2 days left of the week anyways why not just commit to the rest of it

[dense hull]

I literally had 100 doors left

[minor thicket]

this could go so hard on modded moons too, with having multiple variations of the same moon(prob already possible but I'm dumb so idk)

[tawdry spruce]

my school’s wack

[tawdry spruce]

YES dude

so many possibilities

[dense hull]

I've always imagined each time you land on a moon, you land on a different sector of it

Doesn't make exact sense why we land on the same ones every time

[tawdry spruce]

like

OH

I CAN ADD ANOTHER FIRE EXIT TO TRISKELION

[mental breach]

I mean some modded moons have this already, DemonMae's anomaly moon prob does it best depending on the interior rolled the whole damn design of the moon can change

[minor thicket]

true forgot about that one

[minor thicket]

oh yeah the mod did say id modify modded moon eventually

[minor thicket]

wait they made map improvements to their own moon XD????

[tawdry spruce]

yeah dude i saw that right next to it

that’s how i remembered who made it

i’m confused why they didn’t just apply it to their moon

like they have the scene

.

wait

how would you apply changes to modded moons if you don’t have the scene for them?

[sinful jungle]

because they dont actually edit the scenes

they just instantiate new objects into the scene

[tawdry spruce]

like with vanilla moons you can actually see where you’re placing them

so you can change them from there and add the changes through the mod

but with modded moons

[minor thicket]

tbh maybe they wanted to make an example on how to do it on modded moons

[tawdry spruce]

do you just

[minor thicket]

since they said there was a tutorial

[tawdry spruce]

trial and error it?

[minor thicket]

more an example for other people

[tawdry spruce]

lemme see real wuick

yeah maybe there’s a tutorial for modded moons later

bc i’m not seeing how you would see where you’re placing the prefab without trial and error with a modpack

[dense hull]

Wtf is this mod's config

It's so confusing

[sinful jungle]

mine???

bro they are tickboxes

[dense hull]

No

Not urs

[sinful jungle]

oh lmao

[mental breach]

Probably the other mod

[dense hull]

The other

[tawdry spruce]

yes how do you know which one is on and which one is the not on help

[sinful jungle]

i gen was concerned for sam LOL

i was like dude theres no way

[minor thicket]

Check under "basics", it explains it

[dense hull]

No, it's pretty bad
You can have, for example, C everywhere here, when in actuality, it only affects one of these categories

It's pretty wtf

[minor thicket]

seemed to work for me

[dense hull]

I'm not saying that it isn't working, it's just

[minor thicket]

tho tbh prob best to keep it to 1-2 modifictaions

[dense hull]

unnecessary values

WAIT

It literally does

So weird

[minor thicket]

new factory on vow is so cool

[dense hull]

Imma check it out in a few

[minor thicket]

it moves the dam and 2nd fire exit to be behind the ship

attached to a new factory

replacing the old dam with a breakable bridge

[dense hull]

Luckily this mod doesn't affect the scenes themselves

So it should be compat /w RM

[minor thicket]

def gonn take some time cfging all this to my liking

[dense hull]

Same

[minor thicket]

ooooo, landing in a garage on ART

[sinful jungle]

wtf happens if you land on adamance with my mod installed 🙃

cuz my shit literally modifies the terrain

i imagine there will be floating objects

around the fire exit path

[dense hull]

I

don't think there's anything there

in that path

[sinful jungle]

yea it probably just doesnt work thne

oh

u meant that

ok

[dense hull]

Yea

[sinful jungle]

hmm

i would be amazed if it really just Works

oh god i bet dine is so broken

[minor thicket]

adam works

[sinful jungle]

wow

that's honestly pretty incredible lol

[dense hull]

Please, never let this mod actually touch the scenes themselves 🙏

Not urs, I mean this one

So compat /w RM remains

[sinful jungle]

it would have to rely on LLL to do so

so i dont see that happening

[minor thicket]

tbh I think it was made so they could do it without LLL

since it has tools for others to do so

[dense hull]

All three of the changes aren't spawning at once

How do I make it so all of them spawn at once?

I tried combine, but that didn't work

[minor thicket]

having all enabled givs them a chance, combineall on all of them worked for me

[dense hull]

Weird...
so like this, right?

[minor thicket]

no

[dense hull]

Oh shit

Well

What if I don't want

C

for example

What do I do then

to keep B and A

[minor thicket]

You combine B with A then disable C

[dense hull]

OHH okay

Now this makes more sense

Thx

Hmm

I might look into this soon

[dense hull]

Uhh, that didn't work

[minor thicket]

leave A as enabled

combine B makes A = A + B

[dense hull]

Most complicated config award goes to

Complicated for a good reason though

They could've explained it better at least

[wind marlin]

Why is it complicated again

[minor thicket]

we talking about a new mod

[wind marlin]

I am aware

[minor thicket]

ah

I understand it now tho

[dense hull]

?

[mental breach]

The B change for Assurance I actually agree with btw, it seems to just add a bit extra to make it less bland

More pipes

[dense hull]

Where second fire

[minor thicket]

ill get back to you when I mess with it a bit more

[dense hull]

k

[mental breach]

C makes it more Cruiser friendly which I guess is okay, you really don't have the Cruiser that early on anyways so it's kinda pointless

[dense hull]

I don't want all moons to be cruiser-friendly, so I'm keeping that disabled personally

[mental breach]

I'll just enable the B change for Assurance, I don't like the extra fire exit when it has an easily accessible one already

[dense hull]

I got it

[minor thicket]

if making to cruiser friendly damages the moons layout/vibes im against it

[dense hull]

You have to do CombineA

Since you're combining said option with the first, you specify it as such

[mental breach]

I think layout A might be the most subjective for it

[wind marlin]

is it not possible to have like a Flag or single String for this 😭

[dense hull]

The mod creator just explained it badly

[mental breach]

Don't really see a point for an extra fire exit anyways, the ladder is right at main

[dense hull]

I would not have known what to do without Turtle's help

[minor thicket]

that one im def disabling

[mental breach]

Yeah B is good

it adds just a bit more details

[minor thicket]

I like the ART chages besides the landing changes

which is an easy switch

[mental breach]

I don't understand the Vow ones

What do B and C do?

A is a no go

[dense hull]

I don't like the fifth warehouse in Shartifice

Looks too out of place

[mental breach]

Artifice is good if you use ArtificeBlizzard

[dense hull]

I don't like Artifice as an ice moon

[mental breach]

I mean

I don't like invisible quicksand with vanilla Artifice

[dense hull]

It isn't invisible

[minor thicket]

I like the "Concrete" dam building but not the new landing spot

[sinful jungle]

I too am not that big of a fan of snowy artifice, it makes it feel less unique in a way I can't really describe

[dense hull]

It's weird how nobody has done a paradise Embrion yet

Pretty overlooked

[wind marlin]

There's no other vanilla moon with orange grass

or something

whatever you want to call it

[mental breach]

There's piles that can spawn right next to the ship that are due to the lighting on Artifice

[sinful jungle]

yeah dead grass ig

[mental breach]

Though maybe Chameleon's change fixes it

[dense hull]

Baited nobody award

[dense hull]

What

[minor thicket]

if im correct this is right

[wind marlin]

What?

[mental breach]

Tf are you talking about?

[wind marlin]

There is quite literally no vanilla moon with dead orange? grass...

[mental breach]

I will say I hate all the Adamance changes in Map Improvements

[dense hull]

What I figured out earlier (seems) to be working right

[minor thicket]

I like their ideas but im not sure if ill keep any of them

[mental breach]

They all do too much to the Aesthetic

[minor thicket]

yee, il prob choose a single one

[mental breach]

Adamance is probably my favorite vanilla moon cus it's the most visually gorgeous

[dense hull]

Yeah, it does

Cool

[mental breach]

and I like it's simple aesthetic and layout that Zeekerss did

it's evil but in a good way

[dense hull]

Artifice is now 20% cooler

[mental breach]

unlike Embrion without RebalancedMoons

Embrion without RebalancedMoons is a shit fest

lol

[dense hull]

Mine is even worse

[minor thicket]

could you explain it a bit more haha

[mental breach]

I would imagine they aren't compatible with the Rebalanced Moons Adamance anyways

and I like the Rebalanced Scene

[minor thicket]

they work fine

[sinful jungle]

oh i forgot

[mental breach]

It does bug fixes and slight changes to make the Cruiser more friendly

[sinful jungle]

i uh

[mental breach]

that is all I need

[sinful jungle]

IIRC i reduced the outside power count on embrion from like 70 to 50 or something

i need to write that down

in the readme

[minor thicket]

only 1 one of them edits the scene

[dense hull]

If u want to enable one of these, enable it, and if u want to combine it with another thing, put combine[enabled thing] in that one's value

[mental breach]

No no the Scene change includes the bug fix

for the terrain overlapping the fire exit

[minor thicket]

ohhh

[mental breach]

I just dislike that every Map Improvements change for Adamance basically adds an extra fire exit

[dense hull]

That's really interesting

[mental breach]

and B just adds shit that doesn't fit

[minor thicket]

this also worked for me

[dense hull]

OUGH WHY RebalancedMoons alreayd adds t wo fie exits..,

I don't want it to have three..,

[mental breach]

I turned off the scene changes for Dine anyways

I never play on Dine

But when I do I prefer the Vanilla layout

[dense hull]

NO WHY

A USES V60 DINE'S FIRE EXIT

FUARK

I CAN'T USE ANY OF THESE

AUGH

Wait

MAYBNE

I'll see..,

[sinful jungle]

vanilla dine layout makes me want to bash my head through a wall

and it was my primary motive for making this mod in the first place

[mental breach]

I liked the V50 layout, didn't understand the change in V60 but learned to live with it

[dense hull]

I love how vanilla Dine is universally hated more than Offense lmao

[sinful jungle]

i have died to a giant instantly coming out of vanilla's main entrance like 3 times

v50 dine was fun

[dense hull]

""Dine wasn't hard enough"" ZEEKERSS

IT WAS HARD TO BEGIN WITH

😭

[mental breach]

Did Zeekerss ever state why it was changed?

[dense hull]

Apparently he did

[sinful jungle]

he said it wasnt hard enough yeah

which is fucking awesome because its more expensive than rend and has less loot

[mental breach]

I mean tbf I can agree

[dense hull]

In Dark Place's Discord Patreon chat

[sinful jungle]

i will still die on the hill that dine is worse than offense simply because you're paying to lose money

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[mental breach]

With your Rebalanced layout it didin't feel as threatening

[minor thicket]

I still never issue with dine's layout lol

[dense hull]

He addressed the giants issued on Diine

but I'm not paying again rn to see jus that

[minor thicket]

its its spawns which I dislike

[sinful jungle]

idk i kinda hate the new swapped fire/main

it looks really weird

[wind marlin]

Fire Exit I think is ok

Main Entrance just kinda sucks

[sinful jungle]

fire exit being the "main entrance" for the main building is such an odd decision to me

[wind marlin]

Ignoring that

before the Fire Exit was just

[sinful jungle]

i think it was bc of mineshaft

[wind marlin]

faster and easier to get to

[mental breach]

The Fire Exit on V50 was the entrance I always took yeah

[dense hull]

Where is Dopa's second fire exit? I don't think this mod is actually compatible /w RM...

[minor thicket]

will say, this dam is ass

[mental breach]

I mean she said it wouldn't be

[minor thicket]

on ass

[mental breach]

Use either dopa's Scene or the other

[sinful jungle]

I said i had no idea tbf 😅

adamance seems to work

[wind marlin]

there is only one scene in the equation it seems

[sinful jungle]

do you think it moved it? lol

[dense hull]

I

don't know

How

The terrain is 1:1

[sinful jungle]

this mod doesnt change scene tho

it just instantiates objects to it

[sharp finch]

doesnt one of the settings "move the ship"

the ship has a fixed position so that would imply it moves everything else around

unless it somehow patches the ship animator instead without destroying everything

[wind marlin]

yeah the equation is RebalancedMoons + whatever this mod is called I forgot

[minor thicket]

doesnt move the ship, just reshapes that area around it

[sinful jungle]

hi buttery

[sharp finch]

hello dopadream and others

[minor thicket]

same elevation

and spot

[sinful jungle]

what are your thoughts on this mod

im curious

[dense hull]

Oh god

[sharp finch]

it is interesting but it is not a homerun for me

[dense hull]

That's two blizzard sfxs overlapping on one another 😭

It sounds so weird

[sharp finch]

adamance is frankly strange and i would've rather seen a new adamance-style moon with those designs

but i like the new fire exit on vow

in the back alley

experimentation's back alley fire exit is a vibe that none of the other moons express

closest thing is artifice which is like

i guess

or titan

(i guess)

[wind marlin]

" "

[mental breach]

I like the Vow change that adds a flooded area, the rest meh

I feel like an always flooded Fire Exit is cool cus it's a high risk kinda addition

[wind marlin]

is it the area to the left of the ship where there's water already

[sharp finch]

i dont think it adds anything new yea

[mental breach]

Yep

[dense hull]

Yeah, Dopa's Dine is just not loading at all

[sharp finch]

im pretty sure they just stapled a fire exit into the middle of the existing river

Lol

[minor thicket]

I feel like ass's new fire exit would be better if it didn't require to have the ugly wall near the ship

[sharp finch]

i do like flooded fire exit gameplay but that's why you visit vow on flooded

[dense hull]

Idk why this mod is so adamant on adding so many fire exits

[mental breach]

Ass's first change just adds a parkour section to get to the already existing exit

[sharp finch]

but also kinda this

[wind marlin]

why not 🔥

[mental breach]

So not as bad as I thought

[sharp finch]

i think dine and titan could use extra fire exits

[mental breach]

Idk

It's odd

[dense hull]

I already have Dopa's two fire exit Dine

[sharp finch]

both feel like gigantic installations and a fire exit could be a pretty impactful buff for both

[mental breach]

I love dopa's Titan

[sharp finch]

and i dont think march needs to have a unique extra fire exit gimmick

[minor thicket]

a titan exit somewhere in the snow fields would be cool

[mental breach]

without the cheesey bottom exit

[dense hull]

I want to use both at the same time, but if there was compat, I'd have three (fire) exits

[sharp finch]

but like

[sinful jungle]

look i didnt know what else to do with it 🥹

but buttery had a cool idea

[sharp finch]

assurance and vow are tiny on the inside and already pretty easy to full clear with just one fire exit

[sinful jungle]

might get to that soon

[dense hull]

False...

[mental breach]

Hey that's fine, removing it by default and making it a config is fine

[sharp finch]

adding a second fire exit is kind of much

[mental breach]

The jump gap Fire Exit is so cool

and that whole section addon feels Vanilla

I love it

[dense hull]

Offense could use a second fire exit

[mental breach]

I like Titan to remain as a hard moon

having the cheesey exit takes away from that

It was the original final end game moon, and should remain being difficult

[dense hull]

I could go back to my reasoning on why the third exit is still extremely risky, but I don't feel digging it up

[minor thicket]

lil funny idea for a titan exit, hide it somewhere in the snow fields lol

[mental breach]

You do subjecting rebalance changes with CC though

[dense hull]

Tl;dr: Spike trap, turret, and landmine in front of fire jumpscare, or dog/giant camping the exit outside

[minor thicket]

vow id def the best example of what a mod like this can do

in a good way I mean

[mental breach]

Vow I just left untouched and added the flooded exit

Other changes were too subjective

I combined the Company changes cus

Why not

[dense hull]

Giosuel I hate you sm why are they not in order 😭
I genuinely spend five seconds or so every time looking at this looking for the moon I want to go to

[mental breach]

The company is boring

[dense hull]

Don't let them hear that

[sharp finch]

they are in order

[sinful jungle]

that looks correct to me yeah

[dense hull]

Exomoon Catalog-wise

[sinful jungle]

wait where is offense

wtf

[dense hull]

Gordion, too

[sharp finch]

with the exception of adamance (which zeekerss moved into the middle of the list during dev) this is the order they were developed in

and how they are indexed internally

[sinful jungle]

oh

[sharp finch]

why would they be sorted by catalog? it has to support custom moons as well

[sinful jungle]

thats an odd way to index them

[minor thicket]

not really much you can do without being annoying imo

[sharp finch]

it's not, because that's their order in StartOfRound's level list

imperium reads that straight out

[dense hull]

I rlly love this flooded fire exit gimmick on Vow

Is nice

I mean flooded by default

Not during a flood

[mental breach]

Company changes are meh

Gonna keep those off

[minor thicket]

imma play some hide and seek with the guys there haha

[mental breach]

The changes made it kinda laggy

[sharp finch]

again, still no idea why zeekerss moved adamance where it is, but that is correct

[minor thicket]

didnt seem to effect me but ill look again

wasnt there for long

[dense hull]

I don't like how this blocks off the rest of the moon

What I like about LC's moons is their lack of invisible walls, or clearly placed borders

[minor thicket]

what moon

[dense hull]

Gordion

[minor thicket]

this is the one time im ok with that tbj

tho ill have it random prob

some days more some day less

[dense hull]

It'd make sense for it to be random actually

That's a neat idea

[mental breach]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/SpookyBuddy/CustomOutsideObjects/ Btw @dense hull Doesn't this essentially add Paradise Embrion with the Crystals?

[minor thicket]

rn just messing around with dine

[sinful jungle]

i imagine they were thinking like

palm trees and sand and stuff

[mental breach]

Ehhhh no

It's a Crystalized moon

[sinful jungle]

embrion does have sand on it

[mental breach]

lol

[dense hull]

Paradise Embrion according to Zeekerss was going to be a lush, forest moon, probably like a beach or something

[sinful jungle]

yeah

[minor thicket]

wills say upon testing they spawn to much

I dont need 20 lamp posts all over the moon

[mental breach]

Didn't even know he had plans

[sinful jungle]

thats why chameleon's manor windows for embrion is a beach

[mental breach]

to make the moon different

[dense hull]

This was before he made it an amethyst moon

[mental breach]

He made it an Amethyst moon that was his testing ground for Old Birds

the moon sucks honestly

[dense hull]

What

[wind marlin]

i think that's the point

[minor thicket]

I always considered it a joke moon

lol

[dense hull]

It isn't a test moon, but it is a test moon canonically

[sinful jungle]

ye same thats why i just made it funny gambling

[dense hull]

Old birds were finished before Embrion

[sinful jungle]

well

terra had the idea

but thats why i rolled with it lol

[dense hull]

I stole the idea in my modpack as well

[mental breach]

I like that Detritus tries to improve upon the concept and make an actual moon but the terrain going to Main is odd

[dense hull]

It also has Experimentation's minimum scrap, and Artifice's maximum scrap

Detritus is ok, but I got a little iffy after what I realized about old birds, and Rusty's presence on the moon

[mental breach]

Distinct Moon Variety as a whole I just didn't keep not cus they're bad but cus they just fall short

[dense hull]

Doesn't feel like something Zeekerss would make

[dense hull]

Wtf

They're pretty much the only good custom moons aside from Dopa's and Matt's

[minor thicket]

Not based lol

[mental breach]

Hard disagree

[minor thicket]

tho for vanilla looks

[mental breach]

You've clearly never played Wesley's Stuff

[minor thicket]

id say they are closest

[dense hull]

What

[mental breach]

or stuff like Seichi, etc

[wind marlin]

Baited nobody award

[dense hull]

I've played all of them, way before Distinct existed

Seichi too

[mental breach]

Distinct are good as vanilla-like additions but I felt like they fell short compared to Vanilla and didn't do enough for me

[dense hull]

That's fair, they feel very unique to me though

Attenuation's crevice, Volition's... Idk what to say for Volition, and Detritus' fire exit & mech apparatus

[sand rivet]

I am lurking

[mental breach]

Not to mention the Fox is buggy as shit on Volition although I pulled the fox cus I got sick of him causing lag everytime he grabbed someone

[minor thicket]

man when are they gonna update LE, this LLL stuff is getting stale

[dense hull]

Waterridge is peak clearly

[minor thicket]

we must bow down to lord LE

[dense hull]

The best moon by far

[sand rivet]

Whats waterridge

[wind marlin]

winter lodge if it was water

[minor thicket]

[sand rivet]

Oh lmao

[dense hull]

Winter Lodge but it's summertime

[wind marlin]

oh was i on the right track

[minor thicket]

not really, it was the first ever modded moon

if you aint trollin

[dense hull]

You might want to rephrase this

[wind marlin]

oh wait

that moon

[sand rivet]

Ye no I heard about it but never tried it, tbf most ancient moons are also doodoo imo

But thats just how the nature of modding is, mods improve over time

[minor thicket]

its was good for the time.... even tho it was a free unity scene unedited

that shows how stardards were back then

[dense hull]

It was WHAT? lol

[sand rivet]

Yeah I mean 2025 is gonna be lethal company’s year I can promise you that

[mental breach]

We'll see

[minor thicket]

the whole moon was just a free use unity test map

if I remember right

[mental breach]

Game is low-key dying off in popularity as time goes on as much as I still love it

[dense hull]

Am I weird for headcannoning this as an ogopogo corpse

I didn't think of earth leviathan since they're invertebrates

[sand rivet]

I mean thats just how the genre is
Big audience in the beginning cuz omg funny coop horror game - but then people get bored of it

But the modding scene is getting livelier than ever

[wind marlin]

there's still a wealthy amount of players playing

[sinful jungle]

I don't care about "video game tourism" and id be creating content for this game regardless if it had 2 players or 2 million lol

[dense hull]

If Lethal Company has two last players, then I'm one of them

[mental breach]

It'll probably remain as my main game until content starts dying off or something else I really enjoy comes out and takes off

[sand rivet]

Phasmo and devour also had similar phases, these games are attracting attention in the beginning but only a fraction remains.

[mental breach]

Devour never really took off

[sharp finch]

i am glad lethal company exploded because that is the reason i found out it existed

[wind marlin]

this is like every game ever

[mental breach]

It's always been a niche game that people play from time to time

[wind marlin]

except for like

fortnite probably

[sharp finch]

i worry that my taste in games is "too trendy" since most of what i dedicate my time to are the sorts of games that go viral and then fall off the face of the earth

[mental breach]

Nah that died off too, and only recently regained traction cus of the return of Chapter 1

[sand rivet]

Yeah but its much more noticable in games like lethal company

[sharp finch]

but i do tend to stick with the games i like far past any reasonable metric would suggest and lethal company is the newest of those interests i suppose

[minor thicket]

what I usally do is habe like 1-3 games I always come back too as sort of an anchor

[wind marlin]

died off is extreme but I guess

[mental breach]

Phasmo has died off in popularity cus the devs have become corporate and take too long to release content anymore, the past 2 events have been incredibly mid community events

I just don't care about it anymore

[wind marlin]

whatever u think about corporate

the game just

hasn't nothing new

for like years

[mental breach]

I really liked Phasmo in the past but I slowly lost interest after they did the progression system

[mental breach]

Yep

[minor thicket]

Culturally dead, like sure plenty of peeps play, dota 2, league and Fortnite but its relevance is minute

[mental breach]

and the progression system did more harm than good

[wind marlin]

the new ghosts from ages ago were just same shit different story 😭

wow these are some rebalanced moons

[mental breach]

The game was better when it was more simple

[minor thicket]

I just wish they didnt lock themselves to being so "realisitic"

I wish they would go ham with some crazy ghost events

but ik they never will

thats not really their vibe

[mental breach]

I still miss the old lobby despite it being a Unity Asset and the Old Simple Shop

and the Old Asylum tbh

The new shop system sucks

[minor thicket]

I like the new base but the 2nd shop overhaul is OK

[mental breach]

I got used to the previous one after the lobby revamp, then they redid it to be like 2x worse

[minor thicket]

but v1 is best

[sand rivet]

Anyway, mark my word.

[mental breach]

I just want Wesley to upload his Moons update already and fix the layering and pathfinding issues with his interiors

lol

[minor thicket]

CODENAME: ASSASINATE WESLEY

MY MISSION IS CLEAR

[mental breach]

Toy Store should not be the only Interior that causes the game to lag later in the day when you get it, that tells me something is weird with Enemy Pathfinding in it

[sand rivet]

Yeah hes about done. Its gonna be a real banger of a start.

[sand rivet]

Did you mention this to him?

[mental breach]

I've brought it up several times but idk if he remembers

XD

I usually bring it up on stream

[sand rivet]

Also sry @sinful jungle for flooding your thread

[mental breach]

Oh yeah and dear god Grand Armory if you allow the Old Birds to wake up

I still remember the time the Old Birds woke up on Ultimatum and my frames went down to like 30

XD

[wind marlin]

layering issues?

[mental breach]

Yes he has a lot of stuff on the wrong layers

If you use the gals from CodeRebirth like the Terminal gal

It shows it badly

I still love his interiors though

[dense hull]

Oh

They don't work

Lmao

[mental breach]

@minor thicket The hitching and stuttering issues I were getting were something with UsualScrap's update cus it was happening even on moons like Experimentation so I just went and disabled mods that recently updated til I located it

[dense hull]

This mod's fire exits don't work

[mental breach]

Probably not registering them properly go figure

[dense hull]

Yea

Not that big of a deal

I can just ignore them 'till they're fixed

I like me some extra decor

[mental breach]

Are you sure it wasn't the interior btw?

Double check the interior that loaded

@dense hull

[dense hull]

Gray Apartments

Hasn't had an issues up until this point

[mental breach]

I'mma do a test on Vow rq just to see if I repro it

I had an issue recently with Metro on Affliction where an entrance failed to generate

I still have a feeling the mod isn't registering them properly but

rather be safe than sorry

Oh yeah the mod is definitely not registering them properly

it causes bad lag too

@sinful jungle Maybe you should suggest to them how to do it with LLL

lol

[sinful jungle]

I'm ok

i have no interest in stepping on their shoes

plus LLL wont help if you're not just switching the entire scene out

[mental breach]

True

[dense hull]

@sinful jungle #1241786100201160784 message

[gleaming pilot]

what if u moved the third fire exit really far to the right of the building

[dense hull]

01942697-db13-7de3-c6a2-211465d765e5 @sinful jungle

@charred turret Send your logs too

Your Dine is giving us interior desyncs, even after I disabled MapImprovements

[sinful jungle]

Honestly I'd say just disable the interior overrides for dine. You set your own weights anyways and I think its fighting with that essentially

Since you manually set weights for every moon id disable them all tbh

[dense hull]

It is off...

[sinful jungle]

?? on all clients

[dense hull]

Yes

[sinful jungle]

hmm

ok ill look in a bit

[dense hull]

I'm doing more tests rq to see what's going on

[sinful jungle]

no reason the code should be running

if its off

crying...

[dense hull]

With RebalancedMoons

Without

Idk why, but even with your custom Dine scene disabled, MapImprovement's Dine gets destroyed

[mental breach]

MapImprovements is broken anyways

[dense hull]

How so?

[charred turret]

nap i literally told you its cause of having both on at once

the interior desync may not be

but this is

[dense hull]

but even with your custom Dine scene disabled

[mental breach]

Causes hitching on every moon, and the fire exits don't generate properly

[sinful jungle]

uhhhhHhhhhhngmhmhmh

[mental breach]

It could still be a conflict

[dense hull]

Well, it is

[mental breach]

When the scene is off for dopa's mod it forces the vanilla one to load

[dense hull]

That's why it's manifesting

[sinful jungle]

im confused blanca so did you have both the scene and the interior overrides off

[dense hull]

Yes

[sinful jungle]

ok

maybe i forgot an if check for the client i have no idea

ill look after i shower

[dense hull]

I had everything relating to your Dine off for the main entrance thing

When the interior desync happened, I had MapImprov and Dine's custom int size disabled

[mental breach]

I just blame Dine for being Dine

[dense hull]

The fire exit thing is fine for now

I like me decor

Doesn't affect gameplay really either since

Well

There's nothing to load relating to the second exit

[charred turret]

based

average dine fr...

[sinful jungle]

OHHH

yep i forgot an if check

😭

sorry

[dense hull]

Me casually being your best debugger because no sane person ever goes to fucking Dine willingly

[sinful jungle]

this mod tries to make it worth going to 😿

[dense hull]

My modpack makes it less ass too

• now MapImprov actually gives proper shelter from forest keepers

[charred turret]

you should check out dine in arduo-

[dense hull]

I forgot what Dine in Arduous is like anyway

[sinful jungle]

in what

[charred turret]

44-54 items

all of them are low value scrap

[dense hull]

The ice moons in your modpack are so forgettable because we've barely been to them 😭

[charred turret]

basically, you rush out as much as possible

[mental breach]

I just wanna see v49 Dine return as it's own seperate moon

[charred turret]

thats a thing?

or is it broken cause unupdated

[dense hull]

That exists

[mental breach]

Pretty sure that mod is not only broken but it's unoptimized as shit

[charred turret]

i see

[dense hull]

How would it be broken? It's a 1:1 port of v49 Dine via LLL

LLL moons don't (usually) break over time

[mental breach]

148.6mb

[charred turret]

bro....

[dense hull]

OH WAIT

Nvm don't wait...

[charred turret]

ok

doesnt

[sand rivet]

Isnt there like a TonightWeDine mod?

[mental breach]

Not the same

[sinful jungle]

yeah bro nah what

there is no excuse for that

if i can fit five fucking duplicate scenes in 65 metabytes, theres absolutely zero excuse 4 this

[ruby crow]

TonightWeDie

[mental breach]

Yeah lol

[mental breach]

It's not the same

It uses the current dine layout it doesn't restore the old one

[dense hull]

Isn't it an option?

[mental breach]

It's not, the option it has can be a Hybrid which moves the Fire Exit behind the ship

[charred turret]

well, dine in v50 and onward is actually the exact same map

[dense hull]

Wtf huh

That's weird

[charred turret]

zeekerss just moved where the ship lands and altered the terrain poisitions a bit

[dense hull]

Idk why there's an option for a hybrid, but no actual v49 Dine

[mental breach]

Yeah I was talking about restoring pre-v50 Dine lol

[charred turret]

idk i dont really miss it

[sand rivet]

TonightWeDrive

[charred turret]

i also enjoy how new dine feels more like a frozen-over forest

[dense hull]

I'd like to reexperience old Dine again as a blast from the past ngl

[mental breach]

Eh I always loved doing the parkour up to the Fire Exit

[dense hull]

Same

[mental breach]

Old Dine had some charm to it

[dense hull]

Which is why I love Dopa's Dine

[mental breach]

Dopa's Dine doesn't really give me that feeling that Old Dine did

[dense hull]

but too bad MapImprov shits itself when paired with Dopa's Dine

[mental breach]

Not at all

[sand rivet]

Yeah the charm of being Rend2.0

[dense hull]

Like

get this

DOPA'S SCENE STILL LOADS

THE LIGHTS 'N STUFF R STILL THERE

MapImprov for some reason forces Dopa's Dine scene to load despite RM's config saying no

[charred turret]

dine in v49 has exactly 2 more min/max scrap than rend did

[mental breach]

I have no interest in Map Improvements til it's fixed

lol

[dense hull]

Fair

[mental breach]

Not worth the lag

[charred turret]

also had hoarding bugs and thumpers able to spawn

[dense hull]

I haven't gotten any lag from it

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[charred turret]

and a lot more hazards

it was not worth it to go there

zeekerss made it pretty decent in v50

[mental breach]

You probably have you're just choosing to ignore it, it made my game a bit stuttery and hitchy on any planet I landed on

[charred turret]

a lot of people say v55 killed it, but i dont agree at all with that statement

[sand rivet]

Yes but their pool was also different, had more two handers and cheaper one handers than Rend

[charred turret]

i think v60 killed it

[ruby crow]

neither did i

[dense hull]

Tf do you mean by, "choosing to ignore it"

😭

I LITERALLY didn't notice anything

[mental breach]

Meaning if you're more used to it

You won't notice it

[dense hull]

I

just began playing MapImprov today...

[mental breach]

I've been going mad with keeping my pack optimized

XD

[dense hull]

Consistent 60 fps

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[mental breach]

I didn't say

it caused frame drops

[ruby crow]

you adjust your brain frequencies to aline your eyesight to match the framerate

[mental breach]

I said hitches, like the game didn't feel smooth

especially when moving the mouse

[dense hull]

Game felt smooth to me

[mental breach]

Well it wasn't for me lol

[dense hull]

How big is your pack

[mental breach]

Not gonna go into a debate on pack size cus my pack is really smooth without it

[sand rivet]

216 mods

Its fine

[dense hull]

I wouldn't be surprised if it shat itself somewhere due to an incompatibility

[mental breach]

That still is on the dev of the mod to fix then

[ruby crow]

i got 245 mods (tbf half of the entire modpack is just fixes and tiny changes)

[dense hull]

I have 140 mods

[sinful jungle]

i have like 160

[sand rivet]

Yeah dependencies add up

Seichi alone adds like 10 deps or deps of deps

[mental breach]

I still dunno why Seichi relies on XuMiscTools

[sand rivet]

200 mods are really not all that crazy nowadays

[mental breach]

I get why Lurkin' does

Not so much Seichi

[dense hull]

Istg I download a simple mod nowadays, and it has like 1 morbillion dependencies

[mental breach]

Me when I had to add a new dependency to a couple of my mods to help out with the Memory Leak issue I discovered with MoreCompany

[sand rivet]

I basically use 1 feature of XMT for it which is a bit different than what JLL does. I could probably remove that but I’d need to restructure a couple of things and Im a bit lazy

[dense hull]

☠️

First Emblem, and now this

DAYUM

[mental breach]

It only affects you if you reload the lobby several times, I would just recommend rebooting your game if you need to reload more than a couple of times

NoMoreCompanyLogo doesn't fix that lag, but it reduces the memory climbing

[dense hull]

WHAT

A simple logo change causes a memory leak?!

[mental breach]

I don't think it's the logo change

I think it's something else, and the logo change is just affected by it

Cus as I said if you reload the lobby 10 or so times you get the same lag regardless

It's an underlying issue somewhere

I let 1A3 know about it and he's most likely looking into it

[dense hull]

Don't worry, I've got this guys (Dude was at max speed btw)

[mental breach]

I will say I'm glad I went back to using the Red Apartments over the Gray ones, the Gray ones are nice but too many markers were stripped so you get lost way easier

[dense hull]

Red is too immersion-breaking, but Idk why Gray was neutered so much

Many of the major rooms from Red were removed in Gray

[mental breach]

Eh I feel like the Oneshot themed stuff fits into LC pretty well tbh with it's visual style

Not so much the Moons but the Interiors

except Green Ruins ig

Blue Mines basically got a whole revamp not too long ago to fit in better

[dense hull]

It's too pixelated, underdetailed + references the game itself

[mental breach]

I mean

LC Office references The Upturned and noone complains

[dense hull]

It does not feel like something Zeekerss would've made

[dense hull]

LC Office uses assets from v4 Experimentation, and is generally more of a homage to that than the Upturned due to the similarities/differences, plus it isn't as in your face anyways, so

[sand rivet]

Shoo peepos you guys are hoggin the thread

https://tenor.com/view/shooo-sylvie-grateau-emily-in-paris-go-away-scram-gif-13426011181661632997

[mental breach]

https://tenor.com/view/reverse-uno-meme-oof-big-gif-8789740406551729907

Anyways sorry for hogging the thread lol, I'm about to go finally get some sleep I should have went to sleep hours ago tbh

[sinful jungle]

Now i can hog the thread

[sinful jungle]

the body is round

[dense hull]

Loaf

[sinful jungle]

check my server pronouns

[dense hull]

The equivalent to Mrov’s once weather particle issues lol

[brave lotus]

they really wanted me to go to march lol

relevant mods are this, selene's choice (discounts are disabled), and if really reaching, weathertweaks but i doubt it

this was the cyrilic name one

checked the logs and M'a'rch was foggy as is this one

the normal a (vanilla) march was on blackout

first time it happens, have been to march a bunch of times

all the times it had the funny bridge in the middle so i dont think it's ever routed to vanilla march by mistake somehow