MelanieMelicious Mods 😱 (2 sToRy ShIp, Utility Furniture, Pocket Rooms, Farming and Cooking, etc.)

[rough berry]

nah just this part

[hazy solstice]

On a semi-related note, I'm wondering if a mod to fix the Cozy Lights to be more flexible could be created, proposal here: https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1289859937547321354

[tall obsidian]

On a related-to-the-semi-related note, I propose a fullblown Christmas style Cozy Lights mod to coincide 2-story and wider ship

[naive widget]

Config unchanged, was on offense

[agile zenith]

It would seem that having the Left Window unlocked causes the posters to reappear and float where the vanilla wall would be, even with the default settings for Ship Windows enabled

While not game breaking, just abit of an annoyance when trying to have all the windows enabled

[bleak sky]

Try turning on "Don't move posters" in ShipWindow's config

[agile zenith]

Yeup, that fixed it strangely enough lol

[native cape]

Is this part not supposed to have collisions?

[brisk widget]

Pipes or door frame?

[native cape]

The door frame

The arch in front of the door basically

Oh... And the issues I had with the ship inside the ship was MoreCompany

[brisk widget]

very similar to what happened with model replacement api

[rich ice]

hmm, idk much about what happened with model replacement api, but it's weird this happened with More Company but also only for some people. And was the problem faced by the host? And did the model replacement api find a fix for it so I don't have to figure one out myself? 😀

[rich ice]

ooh, yeah yeah, the doorframe is part of the "Detail" mesh and doesn't use its own collision. It's probably not an issue and only really noticeable when the doors are open, but I could always change the "Clip" mesh collider it's using for stuff like stairs to add something to the doorways, if it's problematic in some way

[native cape]

I personally don't like being able to clip into that

Maybe at least add a Box Collider on the two sides?

[ivory sedge]

a door where you can clip through

[rancid thicket]

Is anybody else having an issue with lethalthings' fatalities sign and ship windows' shutters switch resetting location after save reload?

or the disco ball

[carmine topaz]

Lethal Things is likely responsible for all of your issues honestly, it's outdated and abandoned and has a slew of issues

[modest mica]

while L things has issues what he has said is a pretty common issue with modded furniture

[carmine topaz]

Yeah but the Disco Ball being affected is likely cus of LT

Is what I meant

It's a vanilla furniture

[modest mica]

I just think all modded furniture is buggy

not suprising id effect vanilla

Yall know how to get rid of this POS

pipe removal didnt seem to do it

[lilac hamlet]

it does but itll take your front left thruster for it (rear right in config)

[carmine topaz]

Pairing it with ShipWindows fixed it for me

[modest mica]

thx

[modest mica]

tried that

[carmine topaz]

Weird, maybe it's cus I put the Terminal there so it prevents it from showing up

[modest mica]

sadly that didnt work

[lilac hamlet]

try changing the removal method? i had it work just now but i didnt like how it yoinked my front left thruster to do it

[modest mica]

inactive or deletion

[carmine topaz]

reset the removal mode to the default

Cus it should be Inactive

the other ones have too many issues

Anyways you could do what I did

Hide it with the Terminal

You can barely tell it's there

XD

[modest mica]

sadly didnt work

ill test more tm and report it to whoever I need too

[carmine topaz]

You'd need to reload the lobby or reboot the game probably

[modest mica]

happens on fresh

[carmine topaz]

Idk then

Just hide it with the Terminal

Easy

[modest mica]

nahhhh

thx for tryin to help tho

with just this mod when trying to land this pops up

[modest mica]

didnt work sadly

[quaint oxide]

it works for me

[modest mica]

also imo it should be fixed in the base mod

[quaint oxide]

so there may be tomething else

[modest mica]

Only 2 mods on

and it still happened

[quaint oxide]

what mods?

[modest mica]

I tested with only pipe and 2 story

[quaint oxide]

try adding widership

[modest mica]

did

[quaint oxide]

ok, idk :,]

[modest mica]

it really just should be adressed rather than trying to find a work around

[modest mica]

ok it stopped happening

I had to delete the pipe config

and redo it

[carmine topaz]

@rich ice For what it's worth, seems to happen when ShipWindows is paired with it, doesn't happen when ShipWindows is on it's own, also seems to happen when backing out of the lobby at least so I would guess it's fairly harmless?

I guess @native cape would need to confirm

[frozen flint]

yo whats the mod ur using for the hud color?

[carmine topaz]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/TestAccount666/ImprovedClock/

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/XuVELD/HotbarRD/

[carmine topaz]

@rich ice I really adore the mod a lot, I just hope to see the top floor be fixed soon to hopefully not count as out of bounds :3 I imagine the collider just needs to be extended

[brisk widget]

do you mean that you are teleported from the second floor when you are in orbit?

[carmine topaz]

Yes, and if reloading a lobby any scrap placed on the second floor is teleported onto the first floor

Which is unfortunate cus I like placing items up there

lol

[quaint oxide]

hmm.
I always see one of @patent vector friends doing some sort of sanctuary on the 2nd floor, does it resets after loading?

[brisk widget]

all things fly into the ship inventory chute on save load

but because of #1289581619107332197 items just stay in the air in the old chute location

[carmine topaz]

So the fix would be removing ShipInventory?

[patent vector]

yes anything in the second level teleports to main level on restart

AH SHoot not the CHute!

[carmine topaz]

Well there's a reason a 2nd floor exists now

[patent vector]

Wait until the 3rd floor! I hear it will release before the 4th floor

[carmine topaz]

I think 2 stories is enough

XD

[patent vector]

No I need a skyscrapper

[brisk widget]

fix just moves the chute a little

[patent vector]

trust me the way @limber cliff collects I need all the space lol.

[carmine topaz]

I mean the chute shouldn't be teleporting scraps into it

I was guessing if ShipInventory isn't present

Items should stay on the 2nd floor yeah?

[brisk widget]

oh, no, it will still teleport but getting items will be much easier

[carmine topaz]

Ah

I hope a fix comes out then, I really want my items to not be teleported from the 2nd floor lol

[limber cliff]

I mean you're not wrong.....

I want a floor that can be for just me 🤣

[rich ice]

okay, I fixed this for vanilla landing and Celestial Tint version with outside ship objects in orbit enabled in private files, but not updated publicly yet

[modest mica]

nice

[carmine topaz]

Yay, no more seeing the pipe peeking out of my terminal

XD

[rich ice]

not sure if it's causing any actual issues, but I still don't like errors and will probably really quickly check what's causing it at some point

[carmine topaz]

Ye the main thing I wanna see is scraps not be teleported from the 2nd floor cus I like having the Cubpoard up there

and I like putting some larger ones up there too

[rich ice]

you should be able to reach it into the second floor while in orbit unless another mod is changing the bounds after mine, or is causing an incompatibility that's stopping mine from continuing executing its scripts

The item thing on the other hand, it's weird. I'd have to look for what other boundaries the ship would have IF it's that, bc for some reason the ship has like 50 different boundaries for what's considered in the ship, which is why teleporting could be stopped but building cancelling would be different, etc. I still have to figure out what's happening, but I do want to fix this

[carmine topaz]

[brisk widget]

build mode cancellation occurs if you touch the ship's leaving triggers and (i think) when you go beyond the "inner boundary of the ship"(interior space of a ship). as for the items... magic

[native cape]

Nah, 4th floor should be released before the 3rd floor :3

[bleak sky]

Only logical to start with the basement

[umbral bluff]

basement would at least fix the issue of items falling through the floor sometimes and being under the ship KEKW

[brisk widget]

and will make them inaccessible upon landing

[umbral bluff]

perfect

[rich ice]

I think I found a fix for the items despawning/teleporting when on the new parts of the ship

wait, I say that, but then I test the old .dll where I didn't fix try a fix, the items are still not teleporting when on the far parts of the ship or on the second story

yeah nvm it was because Matty's Fixes was still enabled oopsies

[brisk widget]

I tried to fix the item clipping in WS(before mattys fixes), but it was not successful. However, now I think I will try a slightly different approach and I can share the results if everything goes well.

[rich ice]

but so far I've been looking into it, and according to the game's code and what the reference was set to in Unity, what tracks if items teleport is actually supposed to be the ShipBoundsTrigger, which was already modified, and shouldn't be teleporting the items anymore since they're considered in the bounds. Especially if using a prefix on Start, and even moreso on Awake

idk, it's weird, it's like the item setup part is ignoring the new changes to the ship bounds. Even just testing making the scale huge to make sure it's not just too small somehow, and it's still ignoring the new size when checking for items

[modest mica]

small issue, when having wider + 2 story on the cams the floor doesnt exist

[brisk widget]

Melanie, you do the start prefix, right?

[rich ice]

I guess for now, I'll have Matty's Fixes as a dependency just like Wider Ship so people don't have the trouble with the items as much

the public version is still using postfix, my private files changed it to prefix for Start, and then I also tested prefix for Awake, and none of them had any success

[rich ice]

oh yeah, that thing, I just haven't gone about looking into it yet

[modest mica]

nothing major

so no problem

it doesnt effect gameplay

[barren vine]

if the issue you're debugging is the items teleporting back to the center of the ship on rehost. this is the code responsible for that:

in StartOfRound.LoadShipGrabbableItems()

and the actual bounds will not update until the end of the frame when you modify the object

unity has a function to forcefully update it, but i'm not sure i would recommend using it

[brisk widget]

can't we just use WaitForEndOfFrame then?

[barren vine]

it's not a corutine. it's the Start function of StartOfRound

you cannot halt it

[rich ice]

yeah, that's the part I was looking at, and found that the shipBounds variable was a public collider that, in the ship scene, is set to the ShipBoundsTrigger which is the part that's changed. I try prefix to attempt changing it before Start is supposed to take place, and then I try the harmony patch on Awake which is supposed to happen right before Start

That's why it seems kind of weird to me, because it should be updating before the item spawning and detection, but then it's almost like it's ignoring the update

[barren vine]

🤔 . i havent checked how your mod is done, but if your ship is a prefab. you are probably better off creating a new collider in the prefab and change the field in a prefix of StartOfRound

pretty sure all Zeekers code refers to the field in StartOfRound

[carmine topaz]

@rich ice

[barren vine]

i feel the ping was unneeded 😅 this is their channel so they will eventually see my reply

[carmine topaz]

I just wanted them to see it quicker but I get what you mean

[rich ice]

oooh, yeah, my ship spawns from a set prefab. I'll try that; hopefully the game acknowledges the change

[rich ice]

this might have actually fixed it; none of the items in the corners seem to be teleporting anymore. Thank you for the suggestion!

[carmine topaz]

Btw it seems like the mod has a hard time with Bozoros and Oldred atm

Huge lag when loading into those

[carmine topaz]

Yay

Glad to see you'll be updating it soon

I'm excited for the fix

[rich ice]

yeahhh certain moons will have that trouble, and I'm pretty sure it's mostly to do with regenerating navmesh. There's a config option to use a buggier navmesh loading method that could be faster, but again, will be way more likely to have issues pop up

Also, unless Wider Ship Mod added a config for navmesh loading method too, then using the buggier navmesh loading on mine will probably also cause both ship's navmeshes to be loaded

oh yeah, for others who want to know which part in the ship scene is holding the StartOfRound script to change certain public variables, like the shipBounds variable, the GameObject holding the component is PlayersManager / HUDManager

So from the scene:
Systems/GameSystems/PlayersManager / HUDManager

the bolded part is the full name of the object, not 2

[barren vine]

why not just use StartOfRound.Instance 😅

[rich ice]

uhhh

[barren vine]

and HUDManager.Instance

[ivory sedge]

"uhhh", thats the sound of dissapointment

[barren vine]

or better if you're uisng Harmony to prefix the Start of StartOfRound just put (StartOfRound __instance, ...) as a parameter of the prefix

[native cape]

Why's that better than direct access?

Wait, nvm. I didn't read the message correctly

[barren vine]

rofl

[limber kernel]

The best part is that they use this.

[carmine topaz]

Lmk when the update goes live Melanie, thank you for your hard work you do and making this amazing mod my group was all super happy when I told them you fixed the items teleporting to the first floor lol

Also lmk how Matty's suggestions go

:3

[carmine topaz]

Testy moment

[rich ice]

okay, I updated the thingy, the ship mod, so if ANYBODY COMES ACROSS ISSUES FROM THE UPDATE, feel free to report them here.

also I did the furniture thingy in a new mod, but still needs to register in the store. Feel free to leave suggestions for it in here too for now: https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/MelanieMelicious/MelanieMelicious_Utility_Furniture_Pack/

[quaint oxide]

Yay

[modest mica]

congrats on the new mod, its sick, just a small request for the main mod, when using with wider ship maybe have the default furn possitions changed so they are against the walls and not covering stuff

[quaint oxide]

You can assign the possition using FurnitureLock

[modest mica]

that mod seems really buggy with the teleporters

unless that was fixed

[rich ice]

yeahh, that should be easy; I can move those including the sticky note

[quaint oxide]

You can fix it assigning a manual spot

Use the config from my modpack Megalophobia

[modest mica]

thanks

so default placement for tele is whats busted

[quaint oxide]

Yup

[modest mica]

so just have it off for that?

[quaint oxide]

No

I think it will break

[modest mica]

tbh id rather not have to fix it every time I buy them

unless Im not understanding what you mean by assigning manual spot

[quaint oxide]

I mean

You only have to fix it once, and then it will save

[modest mica]

ahhh

would that trasnfer with profile codes

[quaint oxide]

Yes

[modest mica]

alr thank you

[carmine topaz]

That's been fixed I've never had issues with it

[modest mica]

alr thx, was unsure

had seen it a BUNCH

[carmine topaz]

If you run into issues just temp disable the ship mod and place them somewhere cus the custom position will be remembered

Yeah that was a bug very early on

But I know Jacu said there might be bugs with it with the ship mods so temp disabling the ship mod and setting them in the middle of the ship and copying their positions and locking them should fix that

But I've personally had no issues

I know one thing that's preventing me from using Wider Ship is I'm really not a fan of the door buttons being moved

and that the cruiser when using it clips through terrain on some moons

I do really hope that stuff gets resolved soon, I know just being able to turn off that side of the extended ship should fix everything

[modest mica]

I just moved the door buttons with pipe removal

[carmine topaz]

I recommend against moving anything with LethalPipeRemoval

As when you move stuff with it

it allocates every frame

Which causes lag

[modest mica]

thx

[carmine topaz]

Yeah

Matty discovered it

lol

I was kind of sad

It's only moving the positions of things with LPR though

so hiding things is fine

[modest mica]

maybe I SHOULD commission that pipe removal replacement, didnt do it when I saw it was updated

was going to a while ago

(ik the modder they are very skilled)

they are part of project SCP

[carmine topaz]

Tbh the dev of LPR could probably fix it if a pr were pushed

Maybe just ask them to push a pr

Since LPR does already exist

[modest mica]

(other feature were planned such as, proper furniture saving after firing, and other stuff)

[rich ice]

YEAH I NOTICED THAT when I was looking into Lethal Pipe Remover, is it was using the update function, and I was like jeez

[carmine topaz]

Yeah, it does it only when moving stuff in the ship though at least

Thankfully

[carmine topaz]

Also another thing you can do if custom furnitures are spawning outside is use BetterDecorPlacement to move them back into the ship

[quaint oxide]

for anyone asking:

1. Wide Cabinet

2. Work Table

3. Workshop Table

4. Metal Gate (can be opened and closed)

[waxen comet]

quick question does fancy ship also work with wider ship?

[quaint oxide]

yes!

[quaint oxide]

althought, testing the metal gate, You have to bend down to get through

[waxen comet]

any way i could fix this?

the normal 2 story ship works with it but not the fancy ship

[carmine topaz]

Fancy ship has not been updated

[quaint oxide]

oh

my bad :,]

[waxen comet]

what mod is the furniture from?

[quaint oxide]

SmoothReserves Furnitures

[carmine topaz]

@rich ice what is this? Lol

[waxen comet]

how do i fix the floating posters

[rich ice]

wait not fancy ship, just 2-story ship; I never updated fancy ship in a while, so I'm pretty sure it's still using a version from before I added compatibility with 2-story and wider

[rich ice]

yeahh, I rushed that one with less testing bc I wanted to get it done to play fAsT, but I'll make it a little higher to match the ceiling height

[rich ice]

oh yeah that thing, I never fixed it, oops. It's just the meterbox, I didn't move the copied version from Celestial Tiny with outside objects config enabled it seems, so I can do that eventually

[rich ice]

assuming you're using ShipWindows, you'll need to go into ShipWindows' config and enable the like, Don't Move Posters option

[carmine topaz]

I hope to see you come out with a furniture that just allows putting tools on the wall but I like the larger cupboard lmao if only there was a way to auto unlock that so it feels more immersive hehe

[rich ice]

ooh do you mean like, adding a config to like, make it already unlocked on the ship? Or

[carmine topaz]

Yeah, I think it should start already unlocked like the regular cupboard

[rich ice]

also yeah, I wanted to try something that lets you put furniture directly on the wall. The workshop station, you sort of can, but the items don't rotate. I tried a test earlier to make it rotate, but it didn't work, but it was just to try get it out fast. I can look for a proper solution soon

I guess I can see about a config that could auto-unlock the stuff and have it already placed somewhere on the ship

2 sToRy ShIp Mod (and I guess other MelanieMelicious Mods)

[carmine topaz]

@rich ice You know I think a good idea for the moons that have issues with the navmesh regeneration thing would maybe to be to add a config option that allows you to just blacklist those moons from it, rather than disabling the feature entirely ❤️

[carmine topaz]

Looks like pacoito got Bozoros to work hapilly with your mod

Hoorah!!!

[delicate agate]

What are these from?

[quaint oxide]

the new Melanie's Furniture mod

[delicate agate]

That is awesome. Can it be used without two story? Although it seems two story is stabilizing so I want to try that soon too

[quaint oxide]

yes, both are different mods

[long shuttle]

Could there be a config for auto unlocking them without purchasing them pleeease?

nikocutie

[ivory sedge]

v0.0.0

[native cape]

Explosions enable Wallhack

[quaint oxide]

and mud

and sprays

[carmine topaz]

It's a known thing, Melanie has been looking into a way to fix it

Also I imagine you also see why I have the floor window disabled with the 2 mods paired together

Cus the floor window has the railings covering it? If that's what they're called idk

@rich ice @barren vine Maybe you 2 could work into getting the item clipping fixes from Matty's mod working with the new furnitures you made

[rich ice]

oh, yeah, I can fix that glass thing; it shouldn't be too hard, I simply haven't gotten to it oops. Same finding diamonds hack

[rich ice]

yeah, I'll look into adding configs for adjusting prices and options to make things auto-unlocked

[carmine topaz]

Oh the railings covering the window can be fixed? ;o

hoorah I miss my floor window

I imagine it's making them be hidden over the window, or however ShipWindows usually handles it

[rich ice]

oooh, that's great! That entire navmesh simplification thingy is also probably good even without navmesh regen, so overall a great improvement. I'll be sure to thank them for sure

[carmine topaz]

Yeah the only moons I have now that have a difficult time are Infernis, Etern, and Oldred so a blacklist config where I could just simply blacklist those moons would be perfect, since regen is fine on everything else

[rich ice]

oh yeah yeah, how ShipWindows did it was just a custom model where the thing in the middle wasn't there. For me, I'll just cut the mesh and set that to invisible or inactive whenever the floor window is tracked when starting a round or when buying something

[carmine topaz]

Noice

[rich ice]

oh yesss and this thing, I think that's a great idea to be able to choose certain moon to have the other navmesh. Thank you for the suggestion! I'll see about trying to add this whenever

[carmine topaz]

As long as it's before my Affiliate Anniversary stream on Thursday I'm happy :3

[rich ice]

oh no, a deadline

[carmine topaz]

Haha need it for that day cus it's gonna be a long stream

:3

I believe in you

[rough berry]

I got one question about the metal gate. Where the hell do I put this thing!?!?! Everytime I try to place it somewhere it just doesn't feel right or something is missing.

[carmine topaz]

Lol it seems like the ship breaks on Etern with navmesh regen on, it doesn't count scrap being collected and the chute doesn't work til going in orbit. Blacklist is gonna be so useful lol

[carmine topaz]

I find that surprising since even though Bozoros took a long time to load it worked okay on there

Etern is truly built different

I think it was also okay on Oldred but idk

[rich ice]

oh, yeah, it was still a lot made for personal niche use, though I had rushed that since I wanted to get it out a specific time to be able to play with it. But besides its off-size that'd be changed, yeah, it was a more personal-use of an origin, like how I started with the ship stuff

I am putting like walls and other doorways and stuff, which would probably make it more flexible for other use though, but yeah

[rich ice]

that's really weird to why that's happening; not sure how different the moon is made that that would be happening of all things, but yeah, I guess more reason to figure out making an exception-list

[carmine topaz]

I would guess the reverb trigger for the ship is dying when it comes to Etern, since that kind of behavior feels like the reverb triggers don't register properly, just dunno why regenerating navmesh is causing it to die lol

[carmine topaz]

Interesting so I seem to have fixed it by replacing Loadstone with Nightly cus the change I had from yesterday was swapping it for stable, weirddd

I'm gonna guess the issue is just rng hopefully lol

[pulsar totem]

hello, are all item issues fixed rn or just some?

also if I updated a mod on a previous save will the issue still exist? I am not sure if I'm ready to restart all over again

[rich ice]

the context implies you seem to still be facing an issue with items at the moment. If that's the case, what issue with items are you currently facing? The update should apply to existing saves, but not everything is fixed entirely for items.

Whereas they should stop teleporting to the center of the ship when reloading a save, they can still fall through some furniture when reloading (Matty's Fixes was added as a dependency to try keep items in somewhat the same spot on top of furniture). If updating didn't automatically download it (and if this is happening), you can always manually add it to your modpack

[long shuttle]

Why is oldred having these issues?

It takes longer to load for it

[rich ice]

Some moons have complex navmeshing. When the ship regenerated the navmeshing for the custom ship, it ends up regenerating every navmesh at the moment. There's a config to use a different method, with much faster loading, but also much buggier sometimes

I'm actually just about getting into making a config for exception list moons, where listed moons will be told to use a specific navmesh loading method over the default

[long shuttle]

I see

[long shuttle]

Wait so I should disable it if I want them to load faster?

What do i lose if I do tho?

[rich ice]

if you want to load faster, yeah, you disable it. Downsides are there's a chance on some moons, the new navmesh won't load for some reason, and if you're using 2-story in combination with wider ship, then setting this config will also have wider ship's navmesh, and enemies will find it hard to path upstairs

[long shuttle]

Im only using this mod, Im not using Wider ship

[modest vale]

how do i get the windows to appear with this mod combined with shipwindows/celestialtint

[long shuttle]

Did you delete the old ship windows config?

[modest vale]

i deleted it from the r2modman config section

[long shuttle]

Now relaunch the game to regenerate the configs

[modest vale]

now that the config is back do i need to edit it or just relaunch

[long shuttle]

I mean just configure it then try it out

[pulsar totem]

it worked fine after updating, I was just wondering since if previous save clipped the items through but since I forgot that we didnt buy that much last time, it didnt matter anyways, although this time around we can freely buy stuff without worrying that they will disappear after reloading

[modest vale]

the config stayed the same as before if it wasnt meant to

[long shuttle]

You sure you deleted it then?

[modest vale]

well i deleted it from r2modman, so maybe i need to actually go into the folder and delete it

[long shuttle]

Do you want me to send you my config file so you can replace it then try instead?

[modest vale]

we can see if that works

[long shuttle]

@modest vale Do you know how to put it there manually?

[modest vale]

well i had thought it would be in the lethal company steam folder

it turns out it is not

alright i found it

i had to go through several hoops to get to it

[modest vale]

your config was a success

thank you

[copper sage]

so 2 questions:

1. What does MattyFixes do that this mod needs?
2. Does anyone else experience an exorbitant amount of lag in the right side of the lower level when in orbit after visiting a moon? (this is with wider ship installed so it's past the initial boundary)

[quaint oxide]

1 .Fixes the items on the second floor stay on that floor

when you leave and join again

[copper sage]

items as in scrap or ship decor?

[brisk widget]

scrap

[copper sage]

fuck

[carmine topaz]

Wider Ship is known to have more compat issues with moons than 2 story ship on it's own atm, fumo is gonna be updating it eventually

[copper sage]

reloading causes certain scraps on the bottom floor to sink partially into it

[carmine topaz]

With Matty's mod?

[copper sage]

i would assume so. couldnt fully test so no solid answer (yet)

[carmine topaz]

Cus that's happened with just ShipWindows for us and you know that

So I think it's still a Matty issue

[copper sage]

i dont have ship winders

[carmine topaz]

Did I say you did?

[brisk widget]

MattyFixes are needed so that scrap does not fall through the floor on any floors, but in theory any mod that makes saving/loading things more accurate than in vanilla will do

[copper sage]

hmm

[carmine topaz]

Yeah I noticed SaveItemRotations was a bit brokey yesterday, I'll try just using GI's rotation fix instead

[ivory sedge]

@rich ice Late response lol but when you made the update that moves the ships magnet lever, if wider ship isnt installed it goes to the default mod position. So unless yours is where i located mine by default then it still moves it to a good spot

[barren vine]

remember that the a lot of the item fixes in MattyFixes are not compatible with other mods that do the same

GI, SMI and others have options to prevent items from falling through the floor that simply entirely disable the ability for items to fall

and that would conflict with MattyFixes approach that is instead to mkve the item into a position that will allow it to fall onto the correct one

[carmine topaz]

For me I know the furniture mod melanie dropped breaks your cupboard fixing stuff it seems on lobby reload, even for the vanilla cupboard

I don't think 2 story ship is breaking it I think just the furniture mod

but you should test

What is SMI btw?

[barren vine]

wrong acronym , i meant SIS ( smart item saving )

[barren vine]

that's really weird and should not be even possible unless they're trying to implement the same fixes i did 🤔

do you have logs about it?

[carmine topaz]

No that's why I asked you to test it lol

[barren vine]

as always during weekends i'm not home, soo w/o logs all i can do is throw hypothesis based on what you report

[carmine topaz]

@rich ice So I think sometimes 2 story ship is just bugging out in general and not allowing items to count as collected and stuff unless that's a navmesh regen issue probably, it's been fine until now but the bug seems to happen on USC Vortex too even though it loads quickly I just wonder why

I would say a navmesh regen issue on that moon probably cus it's been fine everywhere else today so far

I also wonder if it could be some compat issue with ReverbTriggerFix cus I know when it happens the body camera screen doesn't work almost as if a Reverb Trigger doesn't fire off so I'll have to test it without that

@barren vine log btw

See if Matty Fixes logged anything useful

I know it usually doesn't

[carmine topaz]

Yeah it's definitely this cus it suddenly started working

I'll test without ReverbTriggerFix later :3

[vestal elk]

My pack has it when loading altogether i wait

[low locust]

So my friend was trying to draw with the better spray paint mod on the 2 story ship and some weird things happened. So the friend could not see the spray paint and anyone who could see it it made them able to see through the ship walls. Here it is on the company building

[vestal elk]

GUYS GUYS

I got mithzan to use thie

Their latest vid has it

[umbral bluff]

pog

[copper sage]

alrighty, so after a quick test. looks like mattyfixes is indeed not the only fix. only tried it with GI, but that version of rotation fix also keeps things from sinking thru the floor.
didnt fix the severe lag in that one spot in orbit after leaving a moon sadly, but that i can deal with. maybe a LethalPipeRemoval deal? idk. not pointing finger all the way yet

[carmine topaz]

LethalPipeRemoval could be it

[copper sage]

ill test another time. for now, innocent til proven guilty

[brisk widget]

cool, now this mod will also skyrocket in downloads in a couple of days

[ivory sedge]

Happened to me and shotgun safety, 2k to I think it’s 13.9k now in 2 weeks

[rich ice]

There's a chance this could be something to do with replacing the inside ship bounds collision. Does this happens for items no matter where they are on the ship?

oh I just read the ReverbTriggerFix thing, hmm

[rich ice]

oops

[rich ice]

😀

[ivory sedge]

What do you mean by that

[rich ice]

I might have made mistake if it's still putting it in a new spot for the normal 2-story, but since I have an in-progress update coming out soon, I'll include correcting that

[ivory sedge]

Nono I meant if you got my mod on that moves it

If I take the mod off it’ll go to wherever you put it

Just saying so you don’t feels as bad because if people want it where you put it the take mine off, if they want it where I put it they can just put mine on

[rich ice]

ooohhh, alrighty

[ivory sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/plink-wide-cat-plink-cat-meow-gif-27396868

Hm yes

[carmine topaz]

Yeah it does, it could be that but since it's only on some moons I wonder if it could be ReverbTriggers behaving weirdly with it

You'll have to check I suppose

[rich ice]

oooh so quick little request time. If people can list all the moons they find themselves taking exceptionally longer to load on when using the 2-story ship (and the mods they're from), I can add them to defaulting being in the list of moons that use the faster loading method

[carmine topaz]

Infernis, Etern, and Oldred in my pack from Wesley's moons

[cloud panther]

Btw, this mod works fine with Problematic Pilotry in case you hadnt tested it yet
Only issue we ran into is that (even without problematic piloty, on a default landing spot) on Derelict it has this weird reflection effect
Everyone in the lobby could see it
its like....a weird reflection that shows the outside kinda
Unsure if thats where the window is supposed to be and thats why its doing it, but this is prior to us buying the upgrade and it only occured on derelict

but yeah that junk in the reflection is the junk outside of the ship

And again, you can make out the stranded ship in the junkyard

And looking at it, yeah thats goes across the whole surface

not even where the window is

It also happens on any moon if a meteor from CodeRebirth strikes the ship or very close to it

Its trippy but doesn't really affect gameplay or performance from what i can tell

[vestal elk]

My focus is on the kitty

[cloud panther]

Well we required an expert's opinion you see
And that was his conclusion

[vestal elk]

Not even as the problem i just love kitty

Jokes aside i got no clue on the matter

[rich ice]

oh yeah yeah, this is the material transparency issue that's been going on for some time. I'm hoping to try get this fixed in the coming update

[cloud panther]

oh nice, its a known issue

[carmine topaz]

Definitely sounds like this could still be the more likely scenario btw so I hope you can find out when you look more into it ^^ I just don't understand why it's only on some moons and why sometimes it suddenly fixes itself and stuff starts working again, that's why I felt like a reverb trigger might sometimes be failing, especially since when this happens I couldn't swap to an active alive player and see their body cam with OpenBodyCams but clients were fine and could use the screens lol I also dunno why the ShipInventory chute breaks in weird ways when this happens

@full harbor you think you could test and see if maybe it's ReverbTriggerFix that needs some compat changes to work properly with 2 story ship?

[maiden basin]

hallo i like this mod ! i have a request can we have more lights ? some areas of the ship are dark. specifically here

[carmine topaz]

It's only like that when in orbit, not even the fault of this mod really

[maiden basin]

is the cozyimprovement mod works with the melanie furnitures?

[carmine topaz]

It's just the way lighting is in orbit, if you use Celestial Tint it's better

[maiden basin]

the lights feature

[carmine topaz]

I recommend against this mod, and I don't think it does

It's outdated and causes ship fps problems

[maiden basin]

oh i see ! dont mind my request then thx

[carmine topaz]

Yeah the lighting is fine when you're landed on moons

It's just the way the game is when in Orbit

[maiden basin]

recommend mod that can replace it?

[carmine topaz]

There are none really

[maiden basin]

that's unfortunate

[carmine topaz]

Well if you use SmoothReserves Decor it has lights you can get

[maiden basin]

i'll try and test it thx !

[rich ice]

question; did you try this on a previous version of the mod, before I updated how I handled ship boundaries? That will definitely be a sign if it really was that change causing it

[carmine topaz]

I know I never had the issue with the previous version, but it may not necessarily be the ship boundaries change itself doing it more so mods caching reverbtriggers having an odd interaction sometimes since the issue is inconsistent

[rich ice]

hmm, though not serious, I could look into slighty brightening the existing lights a tiny bit more
Also, light furniture; I guess something that would be cool to also add in my furniture mod, too

[carmine topaz]

Also could have been something with darmuh's mods cus he updated those and I can't repro it all landing on Etern now

[rich ice]

the worst kinds of issues are the inconsistent ones 😢

hmmm, if it's something hard to reproduce intentionally, and just randomly happens, maybe I could have woohoo another config to choose ship boundary method, and just switch after experiencing the issue while playing normally? Then see if all of them result in the same or not. Kind of a crude way, but if it's random, it works

[carmine topaz]

In what way was the Ship Boundaries change implemented? I know Matty suggested a method that he said should have caused the least issues before

This one I believe

Assuming it was relating to that

[rich ice]

I think it's more optimization or easiest way to reference

the thing I did was the suggestion before, where I just replace the StartOfRound ship boundary collider variable to reference mine instead of the normal. Previously I was resizing vanilla, which weirdly items ignored on reload

[carmine topaz]

Yeah maybe you could try the suggestion he had posted for you to try when you went "uhhh" and see if it fixes it cus it could just be an issue of when the patch is running when landing on some moons

That would explain the inconsistencies

This was that whole convo section lol

But yeah you could try his suggestions

:3

[rich ice]

I'm using the .Instance one atm

[carmine topaz]

Ah oki

Well you could try the harmony method and see how it works if needed, I still think if you're using his suggested methods it's probably just something like ReverbTriggerFix being unhappy sometimes with the new boundaries and it's nothing to worry about since it doesn't break anything in the end

Cus I've not seen errors or anything it just makes things act weird on some moons sometimes

I also noted when the issue happened on USC Vortex for example

the body camera came back on when leaving the moon

So that felt like a Reverb Trigger thing

Cus enemies and everything could stil pathfind onto it properly

[rich ice]

it's weird, since if the ship boundaries themselves are inconsistent too; items ignoring the new boundaries even though they're changed before they spawn and check, but working fine if it's a new boundary already at the chosen size. I hope it's the reverb thing for some reason affecting other things it shouldn't so I have less to try fix, but I also can't assume that

pathfinding is navmeshing, which is separate from the ship boundaries thing

[carmine topaz]

I mean I've not had an issue with items moving down from the 2nd floor or anything

[rich ice]

ship boundaries is basically like a "bubble" that describes if you're inside the area, and in this case, it's just one box collider

[carmine topaz]

Ahhhh

Well most likely if the issue is that then the Harmony prefix will likely fix it, since Matty seemed to say that was the best option

But considering I haven't been able to repro it the issue could have been darmuh's mod since TerminalStuff was having some issues before

[rich ice]

I think Matty meant more of best option as in optimizing how things are referenced for the least complication, but the same result. I don't think moving to that actually affects the end outcome in this case

hmm, this sounds very uh, makeshift, but I could always try, after items have loaded, then telling the plugin to change the ship boundaries back to referring to the old one, if that one is different like it already seems to have shown, for some reason?

[carmine topaz]

That would make sense if he meant it that way yeah, most likely I still think one of the mods caching reverb triggers is just sometimes being funky with the extended ship boundaries but Matty would know more than me

[rich ice]

it still doesn't hurt to switch to the other thing obv, it's just I don't think I should rely on thinking it will fix it

[carmine topaz]

Yeah

@barren vine your input would be helpful

[rich ice]

I hear a lot about these reverb triggers and that they seemed to have caused a handful of other issues, including non-audio related? That's kind of crazy if they have that effect sometimes

[carmine topaz]

They definitely can

[rich ice]

what have they done before? (I need to hear reverb trigger horror stories)

[carmine topaz]

I remember having issues on Pinnacle that Jacob had to fix where reverb triggers didn't work right, and half the ship didn't work

Like the terminal, monitors etc

lol

[rich ice]

that's crazyyy

[carmine topaz]

That's why I felt it was more reverb trigger related when the body cam wasn't working

[rich ice]

hmmm

the more I think about it

so wait, it wouldn't track loot sometimes, even if you put it in the center "original" area of the ship when it happened on some moons?

[carmine topaz]

Yeah

Which usually indicates reverb trigger stuff

That was why I pinged Jacob earlier asking if he could look into if he needs to add compat with your mod for ReverbTriggerFix

[rich ice]

I had a thought for a second that it could be something making the script stop executing, but then there would have to be an error, and items would be tracking in the original area. So I guess it's not that

something wacky's afoot

[carmine topaz]

Yeah I'll have to test if I can repro the issue again later cus if not one of the mods I took out due to them causing issues or one of the mods that updated would have been the culprit, it wouldn't surprise me if it was a chain reaction from one of the mods I took out I took out a few mods cus I started getting 2 foxes spawning instead of 1 lol and I could only really pin that down to TelepathicObject and BigMouth

As funny as it was having 2 lol

[rich ice]

well, I guess while temporarily reaching a potential dead-end, I can share the happy news instead

I didn't actually test if the navmeshing was loading differently on specified moons yet, but I did get the system config down where it tracks the moon, and if it's on the list, executes function. Then I just switched the function to be setting a bool on what nav loading method to use, and began working on another part of the coming update

I'll test to double-check it actually does the different method once I'm done this other thing

[carmine topaz]

[ripe lotus]

2 story ship + ship windows = posters floating in the ship (because the wall boundaries change i assume), is there a way to resolve this? i was trying to use lethalpiperemoval, but it doesnt seem to remove them 😄 sorry if someone already asked..

[ashen wing]

In Ship Windows config files, you have to set true to DontMovePosters setting and they disappear @ripe lotus

[ripe lotus]

oh there is a setting there for that? x.x fk, must have missed it, ty

[ashen wing]

No problem ^^

[carmine topaz]

@rich ice Since I reprod the issue I'll post my log in here but I think @full harbor may need to look into adding compat with your mod for ReverbTriggerFix

[full harbor]

This log says nothing about any error happening with ReverbTriggerFix, it even patched the ship triggers with no issue. It doesn't seem like there's anything wrong with my mod here.

[carmine topaz]

Yeah I just wonder what else could be causing scrap collections to fail and the body cam to not work only when the ship is landed on some moons

That feels reverb trigger related

[full harbor]

did you test any mods to try to diagnose the issue?

[carmine topaz]

@rich ice If you wanna try and repro it it seems to happen on all of Generic's moons but it may just be a bug with his moons I've had similar issues with just ShipWindows on it's own on his moons in the past

[carmine topaz]

Can confirm it's just an issue with Generic's moons

I've been having no issues with Danielus' new moon so it's definitely Reverb trigger issues on some moons most likely :3

[modest mica]

hey ik this is on their end but I wonder if there would be a way for you to delete/move the oxy tank that oxygen mod creates, it doesnt get deleted by pipe removal

that dev hasnt responded

nvm ill talk to atomic about it

[rich ice]

does this add actual functionality? If it does, I can always just move it, too

[modest mica]

yes, on one the cf settings it makes you have to hold e there to refill oxy

[karmic surge]

Any way to make this mod a ship upgrade instead of an instant ship replacement?

[carmine topaz]

@rich ice figured I should let you know the Affiliate Anniversary stream is on Friday not Thursday I got my days mixed up apparently and thought Thursday was the 25th

[brisk widget]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwW7L6w71OA&ab_channel=SheffAustin 👀

[rich ice]

I'd have to look into this mod to see what's happening here, though that might be saved for next update since I'm pretty much ready to release this coming one

[rich ice]

this is planned, but I just haven't gotten to it yet since I've had other things on my mind

[pulsar totem]

if this under works, wouldn't the upgrade be "in-orbit" only? I have a feeling that once the ship lands and having the option to suddenly expand the ship would lead to some issues

[ivory sedge]

This would cause so many bugs lol

[brisk widget]

rebuild navmesh due to purchase causing freeze for everyone

[ivory sedge]

Also mods that made compatibility for the mod, if it adds parts at certain times mods wont work until purchased

[cloud panther]

I dont think its a good idea either
I dont think having a second story is really much of a "buff" in the same way as a window or bodycam, its mostly used for furniture and stuff
And yeah it sounds like it could be buggy

[carmine topaz]

@rich ice Looks like Matty's mod will finally work with your furnitures 😍

[dull aurora]

i agree, 2nd story isn't a buff
every item in the game can be dropped on the same xyz coordinate and the only furniture you need is terminal and teleporter
it's arguably a buff to have zero furniture for a clean sightline inside the ship (masked, item selection)
you also cant do a jump on the side to get to the roof, it's too tall (though you can do it with widership too)
in no lethal company run would dropping credits on wide or tall be worth it, if there priced anything reasonable for what they are
and adds a lot of complexity to both the mod and compatible mods to work correctly when bought in certain orders, on the ground or in orbit, configuration for each, etc
and the workload on the author to make and test it throughly

i still run with both this and widership though because i love decorating and running around

[rich ice]

remember, if it were made, it would be a config defaulted to false. So if people did want it buyable, they would have to manually enable it. It's just an ability to give people more options for how they want to play basically. Though it's still not high in my priorities to make

when bought, the intended thing to happen is calling the same method that's called when loading the save. No navmesh regeneration would be called until next landing. The most likely issues I see is what Atomic mentioned, where if other mods added their own compatibility based on if the mod is present, which complicates things a lot

[rich ice]

ohhh that's so good, and for every other furniture mod that uses placeable surfaces too

[carmine topaz]

Mhm 😄

[barren vine]

ehh... it's not specifically for your stuff

this is some code i had cooking for a while

not sure how will interact with modded furntiture but def fixed clipping on the cruiser shelves

[rich ice]

yeah I figured, because that's a general addition that's to come eventually
She's just telling me the effect that it will mean it could start working for my stuff too

[carmine topaz]

It seems like the new update for 2 story ship might be breaking enemies from pathfinding outside

Well it might not necessarily be this

Gonna try removing SCP999 since it touches enemy navmesh stuff

and report back if it repros

I'm thinking it more likely to be that cus it changed navmesh related stuff

[carmine topaz]

With the default settings, will it only regen navmesh for the Whitelisted moons?

Seems like the issue was indeed SCP-999

[rich ice]

the old config for default navmesh loading still exists for unspecified moons (defaults to regen due to less bugs). Whitelist forces regen for listed moons even if default navmesh loading is set to no regen, and blacklist is to force no regen if the global default loading is set to regen

also a note for some people; glitch reported the movable magnet has some issues. Doesn't currently sync with multiple players, and I need to make a change to make it more compatible with some crusier mods

[carmine topaz]

Oki, the magnet is cool though ^^

I like the feature

[cloud panther]

i dont wanna jinx it, but i have a feeling your mod coincidentally fixes the issue ProblematicPilotry (Mod that allows for random ship landing locations) has following the cruiser update, where landing in a non-default location causes the truck position to glitch out and also meshes up the navmesh where enemies can walk through the ship and stuff
I'll need to test it properly, but if thats the case thats really neat

[modest mica]

Id imagine that would fuck with it

That mod has cause nav mesh issues for me before

Evem without ship mods

[cloud panther]

i mean the random ship landing locations do work with this mod tho
My point being that, this mod might fix the issue that mod has by basically replacing the navmesh or whatever

all i gotta do sometime is set the chance to 100% and land on embrion and see if the robots start pathing into the ship or not

[modest mica]

Pilotry has cause so much log spam on my end

[cloud panther]

oh really? i have never had that

[modest mica]

And after a while I found the mechanic annoying

[cloud panther]

We've enjoyed it quite a lot, makes things quite interesting
Random item dropship tho is annoying, we disabled that

[modest mica]

May try it again later but tbh already got enough variaty

[cloud panther]

You do have alot of moons yeah

[carmine topaz]

@rich ice I think the blacklist didn't work lol Etern was still pain to load into

Just a fyi

[brisk widget]

have you tried with or without wider ship? I doubt Melanie will interrupt my script for rebuild navmesh

[carmine topaz]

I'm not using wider ship

That's why I bug reported it

[naive widget]

https://tenor.com/view/homelander-homelander-the-boys-homelander-sad-homelander-its-peak-homelander-peak-gif-14542009839452529163

[clear stump]

umm i am unable to move the fridge

i can move every other furniture

[cloud panther]

i had this with the larger television mod
I think its due to how it clips into the floor, you might need to use a mod like BetterDecorPlacement to bypass the restrictions

[clear stump]

yeah i have the larger television mod

thanks i will check it out

[vestal elk]

What mod adds these more furnatures

[delicate agate]

So I had an issue where the wider Cabinet was placed outside the ship when purchased so now I can’t move it. Any advice?

[rich ice]

THANKS FOR RESPORTING because uh, so funny story; turns out I did the list check backwards, and it's actually doing the opposite 😭. So whitelist moons is actually doing the blacklist result, blacklist moons are actually doing the whitelist result. I'LL FIX THIS

[carmine topaz]

That makes sense

Lmao

[clear stump]

Item Furniture MelanieMelicious

[vestal elk]

Kk

[rich ice]

oh oops sorry, I was supposed to answer

[rich ice]

uhhh, that's weird; where is it spawning? If you have a thinner ship, there's always a very crude way of activating Wider ship and moving it back in. I don't think the cabinet should be spawning outside by default, though I can double-check. Do you have any mods that change furniture position for some reason?

okay I updated to hopefully have fixed the blacklist and whitelist being backwards. Here's the update logs for the past 2 updates:

0.3.1

• Fixed navmesh regeneration whitelist and blacklist having opposite results. (THANKS Lunxara)

0.3.0

• Added config to add a third floor (crazy), alongside window configs for the floor.
• Added moon blacklist and whitelist for navmesh regen. Specific moons can now be given exceptions from global navmesh method settings. Defaulted Assurance and Embrion to nav regen whitelist, and Wesley's Atlantica, Infernis, Oldred, and Etern to nav regen blacklist.
• Added magnet position control switch for moon compatibility options; only original position and front position options. Vehicle only repositions when activating magnet after moving it.
• Fixed ship material transparency when applying decals (spray paint, explosion marks, so on).
• Fixed floor details appearing over Ship Windows' floor window.
• Untested potential fix for items not registering in ship bounds on certain moons.
• Moved vanilla and modded oxygen tank from the Oxygen mod to the walls of the ship(s).
• Moved changelog to CHANGELOG.md file, and re-ordered to show newer version changes at the top.
• Made a cheese-spot less cheesy (WHAT, but wHy?!) (Might make anti-cheese a config if you wAnT, play how you wAnT)

[carmine topaz]

@rich ice Hole in the floor here

[pulsar totem]

wait what if I was on top of the ship when the upgrade is bought? will I suddenly get teleported somewhere? fly off? or the ship builds around me?

[carmine topaz]

This is where the Widership Fix for ShipInventory puts the chute at, I disabled it to test if it was a bug with that mod lol

[rich ice]

yeah, there are a few little spots like that that I have to fix. Have to kind of redo the floor and wall models

[rich ice]

it would just build it on you, so if you're in a wall spot, you're suddenly in a wall. If you're not, then you're just inside the room

[pulsar totem]

that would be sick NGL

imagine Old Bird about to shoot rockets then you suddenly wall it off

[slow torrent]

Are windows working?

I have them enabled but they're not visible

[carmine topaz]

You have to make sure they're unlockable and you toggle the options to unlock them all

[slow torrent]

make sure they're unlockable?

the options are toggled, everything is enabled

[carmine topaz]

If Windows Unlockable is unticked it won't work

[slow torrent]

where is that?

[carmine topaz]

In your ShipWindows config...

[slow torrent]

shipwindows wasn't being used with the mod though

as shipwindows isn't compatible with the wide ship mod

[carmine topaz]

If you're using 2 story ship + wider ship yes it is

[slow torrent]

has this always been the case? because I had windows on the 2 story yesterday without said mod

[carmine topaz]

Yeah they've always been compatible

[slow torrent]

I mean, required.

I had windows on the ship without that mod

purely from this mod

[carmine topaz]

I mean idk why the default windows aren't working for you, you might need to possibly regen your config

But I prefer the ShipWindows compat

[abstract heart]

can you maybe add a elevator in the ship for two and three story?

[carmine topaz]

I honestly feel like this might clutter the ship a bit too much

Especially if using the mod without Wider Ship

I suppose it could be a feature when pairing it with wider though

It's not so bad in that environment cus there's extra space

But in reality this should probably be added as a furniture of some sort for that

[rich ice]

weird that this is happening, though you probably need to - like Lunxara said - regen the config. You do that by deleting the config and relaunching the game after, and it should automatically make a new one. See if that works, and if it doesn't, I'll try to see what's happening

[abstract heart]

maybe you guys can do it in MelanieMelicious furniture pack

[slow torrent]

I did do that and it didnt work

[carmine topaz]

Gonna test and see if they're broken for me too, could be a situation like the Whitelist and Blacklist being reversed

Meaning if you toggle them off they're actually on and vice versa

Okay yeah I can confirm

With ShipWindows off only the 3rd floor floor window is there

[rich ice]

funny thing is I thought of this before and was like, even if it isn't too helpful, it IS kind of cool. My idea was the elevator is just inside the wall somewhere so it doesn't intrude on the inside of the ship, but extrudes out. But I'd have to figure out the dynamic of making it change depending on if you have the third floor enabled and all that, and also not high on priority either

[carmine topaz]

Well okay

the 3rd floor windows are there

the rest aren't

[rich ice]

though furniture item version - though less flexible - would be way faster anyways. But in ideal scenario, I end up adding options for both

[rich ice]

okay, I'll have to check what I did, because I did change a lot of the material switching and window stuff, so I might have changed something that's causing this now

[carmine topaz]

Yeah cus currently I only see it working if it's paired with Wider

So figuring out a way to have it work without would definitely be interesting, maybe you could put it in that one room under the first staircase somehow?

[carmine topaz]

I just hope it's not a scenario of toggling the other floor windows off is actually turning them on

XD

But on the plus side if it's that that's easy to fix

[rich ice]

I found the issue

[carmine topaz]

Noice 😄

I am looking forward to your utility pack being updated though so I can unlock the furnitures by default

[rich ice]

so it's from when I did the material transparency fix, and at first I relied on the prefab having the glass windows already set, and then just changing it to the ship material if it's set to false. But now since I'm changing the materials to the vanilla materials, I should be changing the checks to if it's true, then change it to glass, instead

[carmine topaz]

Tbf an addon mod for SmoothReserves decor to allow auto unlocking the furnitures you want could be nice too, since that mod is painful to use the store with

[rich ice]

just a tiny little silly thing I did, easy fix, I can update it very quickly

[carmine topaz]

Ooh cool, maybe you can also get the glass window on the 3rd floor to also use the ShipWindows glass?

I'm not too worried if it has a shutter on it tbh, I just want it to use the glass material when the mods are paired together for consistency :3

[rich ice]

also also, the current latest update, turns out I didn't just fix switching the blacklist and whitelist, I also included a change to the asset bundle, so whenever possible, can anybody check if moving the magnet syncs between clients? (like if somebody moves it, does it move it for the other player, too)

yeahhh when I was playing earlier, I was noticing the difference in glass texture, and I was like, wow, I want to change this

[carmine topaz]

I can test later when I play ^^

The 3rd floor is actually nice though, when my friend found out you added a 3rd floor he immediately went "I call dibs on the attic"

Actually that was Matty that said that

LOL

Although we didn't try the 3rd floor today and decided to wait lol, I had a few problems at the start with LGU's update exploding then SCP-999 breaking outdoor enemy navmeshes

[waxen comet]

4th floor when /j

[ivory sedge]

8th floor when?

[waxen comet]

now i can fit 2 more families in my ship!

[ivory sedge]

we need an elevator

[waxen comet]

we need a basement!

[ivory sedge]

Skyscraper when?

we need power room in basement

[waxen comet]

2nd floor balcony

hotel service

[ivory sedge]

Giants break through windows when

[waxen comet]

4th floor with a indoor swimming pool

[ivory sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/taking-notes-notes-gif-17478299096235163441

MelanieMelicious rn:

@rich ice is the 3rd story configable?

[carmine topaz]

Why did you not look at the changelog?

It's disabled by default and has a config option to be enabled

lol

[ivory sedge]

oh ok

mb

[carmine topaz]

[waxen comet]

0 floors config

[ivory sedge]

invisible ship config

[carmine topaz]

I think if any extra floors beyond 3 are added that's gonna lead to an issue with enemy pathfinding and causing lag and other issues, I think 3 floors is plenty

[waxen comet]

3 floors is enough for me tbh

[ivory sedge]

Nah you can always add more 🗣️

[waxen comet]

true

[carmine topaz]

I could be wrong though only Melanie would know this, but yeah I can't see the ship having more than 3

[waxen comet]

add a ship on top of the ship

[ivory sedge]

but the skycraper

[carmine topaz]

It's already a skyscraper when you enabled the 3rd floor tbh

lol

[ivory sedge]

but the elevator

[carmine topaz]

I think that's why it's labeled as (crazy) in brackets

[warped otter]

make it configurable to add as many floors as you want, and it just pops another floor on top like jenga

[delicate agate]

So I did just have the regular size ship. Is it supposed to only be used with wider ship?

[rich ice]

no, the furniture items should still be spawning in the center in bounds of the normal ship. Do you happen to have any mods that modify furniture spawn positions, or you think may do that?

[carmine topaz]

I will also say I had this happen and I just used this mod to move it back into the ship and fix it https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/ViViKo/BetterDecorPlacement/ it was the only furniture that spawned outside for me lol

[carmine topaz]

I remember some people saying FurnitureLock does it sometimes so it could just have been FurnitureLock registering the wrong default position for it

It's pretty rare though

[delicate agate]

I think the only mod I have that messes with furniture is like general improvements and that’s only in the way of saving positions. I think I actually have the feature turned off too

[delicate agate]

I will try this

[rich ice]

ohhh, okay, so I was about to test something else and decided to check, and yeah, where all the other furniture was fine which is what I was basing off of, yeah, specifically the wider cabinet goes out of bounds. Oops. Okay, well since next thing I'm doing is this furniture mod again, I'll fix that

[patent vector]

@rich ice how about floor only edition? Just vanilla size ship with no walls or roof and just a floor lol 😆 joke obviously

[rich ice]

okay so I was delaying the fix update bc I was hoping to fix some stuff with movable magnets rq. I was running into an issue where a left-side magnet wouldn't put the cruiser in the intended spot, just like a couple units in the direction of it, from the original spot. I dug into the code after some trouble and TURNS OUT, for some reason, there's a forced minimum z coordinate, meaning it just won't let you have the magnet move a vehicle past a certain point in one direction, but in the opposite direction, you can go as far as you want

it's really weirdly specific, like, idk, almost feels useless in the vanilla game since the spot will always be there, and only really affects modded by limiting what it can do, which is so weird

so we can only really move the cruiser magnet point from the original position, away from the ship, up, forwards, and backwards as much as we want. Downwards and towards the ship is limited

[delicate agate]

Woah that is weird

[rich ice]

can probably still force change the cruiser position after it's been attached at least

[rich ice]

well, I guess not. I can make the cruiser to move to a specific position until it's on the magnet, and then it stops listening. So that kinda sucks. For now, I guess we'll have to stick to that front magnet, though it doesn't work as well if a mod tinkers with the cruiser rotation

[naive widget]

Few issues I spotted while trying to turn the third floor into a nightclub:

Lights on 3rd floor ignore light switch, disco ball lights don't pass through window between 2nd and 3rd floor, said window also isn't visible from underneath but might be intentional

[rich ice]

as far as any lights I've added for the new floors, whereas previously I've added syncing to the vanilla light switch, it ended up causing some pretty bad issues. So for now, they just stay on, but I've since decided it'd probably be cool if the floors had their own light switches per level

the disco lights not shining through I'd probably have to play around with at some point

[naive widget]

And about this part?:

said window also isn't visible from underneath but might be intentional

[native cape]

Windows gone?

[carmine topaz]

Update 2 story ship it was fixed

Also they're there for me

[cloud panther]

From what i just tested, yes, with this mod on, enemies cant bug out and path through the ship really as much with ProblematicPilotry, so just having it kinda fixes it

at least for the robots

[native cape]

I just updated

0.3.2 is latest, no?

[carmine topaz]

Maybe a bug when using Wider?

I'm not using Wider and it works

[native cape]

No... Seems to be some incompatibility with another mod...

Just Wider + 2 Story + Ship Windows works just fine

For consistency, maybe add the "Wood" tag to this window?

That way, it will be consistent with the floor window from ShipWindows

-# (Metal step sounds feel weird while walking on glass)

The ship isn't airtight 💀

[brisk widget]

I also noticed this a long time ago

most likely it's because the ship is divided into several assets

[native cape]

I mean... You can divide an object into several assets and still have them be seamless

[hallow rapids]

nothing wrong with some fresh air.

[native cape]

I'm a gamer and developer. I'm highly allergic to that.

[brisk widget]

there is no air in space

[native cape]

Okay, there's no way this crack was there before though

[hallow rapids]

i cant hear you with all the cosmic background radiation.

[brisk widget]

even without this you still wouldn't be able to hear me 😆

[ivory sedge]

[brisk widget]

literally unplayable 😔

[native cape]

For real. That's gotta be some kind of OSHA violation or something.

[ivory sedge]

Even more spiders gonna crawl through

[hallow rapids]

New feature: keys now fall through the crack.

[ivory sedge]

The ship going to explode in space now

[native cape]

Please don't add too much realism to the game ;-;

[brisk widget]

what is this emoji 😭

[native cape]

https://tenor.com/view/so-im-a-spider-so-what-kumo-desu-ga-nani-ka-kumoko-cute-spider-kawaii-spider-gif-21768420

[ivory sedge]

[native cape]

The best emoji after " " 🙂

[brisk widget]

lucky you, I can't even afford to buy nitro 😔

[ivory sedge]

Too similar

[ivory sedge]

I got a month for free

[native cape]

Jokes on you, my nitro is being payed by someone else

[ivory sedge]

Get me on that

[brisk widget]

I got discord blocked in my country, so I'm cooler 😎

[ivory sedge]

Russia ?

[brisk widget]

yeah

[ivory sedge]

Rip

[native cape]

Time to get TS3 out of the attic

[ivory sedge]

Time to use Skype

[brisk widget]

On the first day we even thought about reviving Skype

[ivory sedge]

I’m insane

[brisk widget]

Team speak... is cool, but I don't like its interface

[native cape]

You mentioned Skype. Of course you are

[ivory sedge]

So use just use a vpn or what

[hallow rapids]

can I dm you to gift you nitro?

[native cape]

Sussy Nitro

[ivory sedge]

3 years of nitro

Bros nitro is older than my server

[brisk widget]

that would be really awkward so no

[hallow rapids]

https://discord.gift/NwNvQprVUqHRpEXA

[native cape]

He sent it here for anyone to claim 💀

[hallow rapids]

free moolah

[ivory sedge]

Hmm, it seems someone already claimed this gift.

[hallow rapids]

that was quick

[ivory sedge]

I didn’t even see it not claimed

And I was in this chat while u sent it

[native cape]

People literally have bots to snatch those links, so it's not surprising to me

[ivory sedge]

How are u lot having nitro for longer than a year I literally have the free promotions im broke as

[native cape]

Well, as I said... Someone else pays Nitro for me

[ivory sedge]

Lucky

[ivory sedge]

You should press my dms -> gift button -> 1 year -> Gift 💯

Do you not accept

[hallow rapids]

I really hope it wasnt a bot that claimed it. im face palming so hard

[ivory sedge]

Well seems it was instant I assume so…

I did NOT see a green button ever

[ivory sedge]

Only problem with popular servers

Snipers

[hallow rapids]

im on a 50c/month allowance. will purchase in 2-5 business years.

[brisk widget]

For some reason I just thought that you sent a link from a gift that had already been taken

[hallow rapids]

im a villain, not a monster.

[ivory sedge]

And the server doesn’t have verification adding more to the bots

[ivory sedge]

Honestly I thought that because my phone doesn’t have enough hz to see the green

[karmic surge]

Dogs, masked and some other modded mobs can't seem to make their way into my ship when using this mod. Is it happening for anyone else?

[tall obsidian]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reA07LHj4rI

Decided to record a bit of what the whole ship looks like with the 3-story option included, just to give people an idea

[naive widget]

does the third floor have any real benefits?

[modest mica]

nothing more compared to the 2nd

both are just mostly for decor

[ivory sedge]

Nuh uh I added a chain mod that I can put my friends on, put them on 2nd floor so they not in the way

[modest mica]

peak

[tall obsidian]

I just think it's neat, personally. Could be turned into a lounge area with the right furniture setup

[naive widget]

I havent even decided what I want the first floor to be yet

[ivory sedge]

Control center

[naive widget]

They have technology furniture?

[ivory sedge]

No

Just cus where you launch it

Put terminal in there

2nd floor could be furniture

3rd floor view platform

[modest mica]

Yeah, floor 1 is def best for fuctional furniture/storage

[naive widget]

You cant move the ship monitors tho

[ivory sedge]

Yes it can still be a control room no?

[naive widget]

no

[tall obsidian]

My crew and I keep our inventory stashed in the small room where the stairs begin

[crude vine]

Same! xD

[slow torrent]

Anyone know if the windows in this mod are compatible with the skybox?

[naive widget]

Wym?

[brisk widget]

should be

[slow torrent]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/veri/ShipWindows_4K_Skybox/

[brisk widget]

oh this one

probably no

as far as i remember it changes the standard skybox of ship windows, so by itself no, BUT if you install a ship windows then in theory everything will be ok

[brisk widget]

@rich ice not sure if you seen it

[rich ice]

yeah, the ship being like this was bc when I imported the original ship models to edit in blender, it did that annoying thing of defaulting one of the rotations to like 0.00047. I changed all of them to 0 except missed one, so I have to remake the floor parts

[brisk widget]

uhh why did you change rotations

[rich ice]

it's not actually invisible, it's just the lighting, though if you get a proper angle and lighting, you'll be able to see the glass from underneath

[rich ice]

I mean when importing, the actual model part automatically changes the object to that

so it's be default unaligned until set back to 0, whe importing

[brisk widget]

oh, you mean from blender to unity

[rich ice]

no no, from Unity to Blender

[brisk widget]

🤔

[rich ice]

yeah, it's a weird little thing, kind of similar to moving Unity parts and it does 2.4999999

[carmine topaz]

Do you think he saw the mods being made and added this for you guys?

XD

Cus without the larger ship mods this feature wouldn't be as good

[rich ice]

it really is such a cool addition to add like, even a tiny bit of functionality to furniture

[carmine topaz]

Yeah it is

I almost never bought furniture with the default tiny ship

They clutter it too much

[brisk widget]

I don't think he checks mods much

[carmine topaz]

I think he actively pays attention without commenting on it much tbh

he is in this server lol

[brisk widget]

ik

[brisk widget]

especially when our mods aren't that popular in reality

[rich ice]

nah, tiny mod creators starting out with new, small, humble mods, cape fear for you are being judged no matter who you are

[oak chasm]

Agreed
Belt bag was a clear response to dedicated inventory slots for example

[ripe lotus]

Modders of games historically have led to great ideas for games features. So it makes sense from my pov.

[radiant eagle]

You know that smooth decor mod will go ham with this

[native cape]

At least for me, this mod breaks when hosting an existing save :/

I get this error:

[16:16:37.2062417] [Error  : Unity Log] Error attempting to load ship unlockables on the host: System.ArgumentOutOfRangeException: Index was out of range. Must be non-negative and less than the size of the collection.
Parameter name: index
  at System.Collections.Generic.List`1[T].get_Item (System.Int32 index) [0x00009] in <787acc3c9a4c471ba7d971300105af24>:IL_0009 
  at (wrapper dynamic-method) StartOfRound.DMD<StartOfRound::LoadUnlockables>(StartOfRound)

And no Windows or custom Suits...

[limber kernel]

If the save has invalid indexes after update, it could be an issue.

[quaint oxide]

hmm, custom suits and windows

[limber kernel]

Because I would assume the issue is that there's lower amount of unlockables than what the save has.

[native cape]

That makes sense

I'd need to figure out which unlockable it is then

[carmine topaz]

@brisk widget Had a cool idea for when Wider and 2 story ship are paired together, maybe make the right side of the ship extend the same amount as the 2nd and 3rd floors do :3

So that way the bottom right side doesn't look so weird with how it potrudes out

[brisk widget]

you better ask about it Melanie, i have nothing to do with the models when the mods are combined

[carmine topaz]

Ah got ya

[native cape]

I kinda like that though

[carmine topaz]

@rich ice maybe a config option for this could be added? ;o to reduce the right side to extend out the same as the 2nd and 3rd floors

[carmine topaz]

It's sort of a OCD thing for me

and also being able to reduce the right side will be useful on some moons such as Gratar

[ivory sedge]

[carmine topaz]

Cus the right side clips into the wall on Gratar and a couple of Generic's Moons

[vestal elk]

Ye it looks like an amongus

[fossil remnant]

how did you reduced this area in the second picture ??

[carmine topaz]

@brisk widget I have some great news

It seems like Mel's blacklist works with your mod

I just tested Infernis

Testing Oldred and Etern too

@rich ice You are literally goated if it works on all of them

[brisk widget]

i think i tested infernis once and it loaded fine?? anyway i suspect it sped up loading by 1.5 times compared to without blacklist

[carmine topaz]

Yeah it seems to be working on all of them

Which is good

Means we get an even larger ship

I saw @barren vine typing

I suspect he's excited about big ship

[barren vine]

or i just pressed a key while looking at the channel 😅

[carmine topaz]

XD

[barren vine]

but yeah. i really like the extra ship space 😄

[brisk widget]

I wonder why no one has done ships before

I've seen posts that are several months old on different sites asking about mods to increase the size of the ship, but I still haven't found a single one (unless I searched poorly)

[carmine topaz]

Man we need a mod now to auto unlock some furnitures especially if you wanna use something like SmoothReserves Decor cus it is so bloated

[barren vine]

quite sure there already exist plenty of mods to tweak what's unlocked at the start of a save

[carmine topaz]

I believe there is only Mrov's mod and it's outdated with a lot of bugs

[barren vine]

6months is quite old but i never heard of it beeing buggy 🤔

[carmine topaz]

There's been a lot of reports of it causing things to duplicate

[maiden basin]

i dont have wider ship mod

[carmine topaz]

Also reports that it breaks when reloading a save

[fossil remnant]

hoooooooooo

sound interesting

so you no longer have two room but just one other floor

[carmine topaz]

@orchid girder you should totally update UnlockOnStart and fix it's issues

[maiden basin]

yep the floors are nice

[orchid girder]

what's not working?

also let's jump to the relevant channel: https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1192426488528642069

[rich ice]

so next furniture mod update, yes, will add a couple new things, but I'm also working on duplicate furniture that you can set how many will exist in the config (for example, if there's a wall, and you set the amount to 6, there will be 6 walls in the shop, labelled with numbers). I haven't tested issues of changing the amount mid-save, and duplicates seem to reset position on reload (besides the newest placement). Furniture lock detects the duplicates, though I haven't tested if it moves them properly

[brisk widget]

walls? we will need galvanized steel soon in that case

[rich ice]

wait

I can also make it so duplicate vanilla and other modded furniture is possible

I just need to be able to reference their unlockables lists

[barren vine]

i feel that's going to break so many things durig save/load tbh

and if they all have the same name it's definitely going to break mods like FurnitureLock

[rich ice]

it's basically just creating new unlockables in a new list, just with the same component settings and shared prefab

I change the name

is just adds a number at the end

[barren vine]

i haven't seen the update yet. so for now this are just my worries/speculations

if you have accounted for all edge cases you're a-ok

[rich ice]

it's already working, except that duplicates don't save their position unless they're the last placed. Other than that and not testing the changing config mid-save, works perfectly fine

and yeah, Furniture Lock detects the duplicates and adds them to its config

which honestly, if it weren't for the chance of people not using it, the position thing wouldn't be an issue. I can make it a dependency, but I don't want to force people to add it if they don't want to

[brisk widget]

Mel, you still haven't figured out github or..?

[rich ice]

oh, yeah, I just never got to it because I like doing other things

I'll probably get to it at some point

[brisk widget]

for good you need the license that I use, OR change the assembly info already because I can see it through thunderstore (not that I'm against it lol)

[rich ice]

hahah oops

that actually brings me back a bit, since it was intended to be a private mod

imagine what would have happened if I had that option

[brisk widget]

I know, I saw it there too 😅

[gilded stone]

I have a hilarious future idea. A purchasable fire door on the third floor that can take you into the interior

[rich ice]

haha funny story

I already secretly made that for next update, but also included config option to disable it in case people don't want it

[gilded stone]

Awesome

I vaguely remember hearing a mod did that for the cruiser some time ago

[barren vine]

that seems a bit too OP

unless it works like a InverseTeleporter and is One-way only

[rich ice]

yeah that's why I made it a config option for people to disable, regardless of price

[barren vine]

at this point i'd like to ask for some kind of hatch on whatever the top floor is to get on the roof

with all the new space we cannot use the magnet jump anymore :/

[rich ice]

also nvm I see what you meant. I was just changing the name of the unlockable name. But since they share the same prefab, they all instantiate the same with name, which yeah, also makes it work differently with FurnitureLock.

Like it still works sort of, you can't copy the positions, but if you input your own and save them, it works. But yeah, really janky, and without that mod, then you just have to manually put everything into place each time. Changing the name of the prefab per loop just affects all of them to still have the same names, changing it after it spawns, well, it's already too late by the time it happens

idk so far, just seems like it has to be different prefabs to save the transforms, which kinda sucks if it's the case

[barren vine]

you have to multiply the prefabs too, and change the unlockableId inside the prefabs

what's important is the unlockableID inside the PlaceableShipObject of the prefab

and it needs to be the correct one already in Awake()

[brisk widget]

isn't it enough to just rename the GO after spawning?

[rich ice]

no ):

[barren vine]

so you either edit the prefab or :

• spawn them parented to a inactive Object
• edit the unlockableID
• reparent them to the right object

beware that they have to be Instantiated directly to the inactive object as .Awake() is called inside .Instantiate unless they are inactive

for other mod compatibility, please duplicate the prefabs

[rich ice]

alrighty, though I'll probably try this in a bit since I was at this for a while and kind of want break time. But yeah, thank you for the advice since I would like to have this figured out, so I'll try this out once I'm back to working on this 🙂

[radiant eagle]

Windows are gone..

Suitrack suits is also gone

[carmine topaz]

Some issue with a mod in your pack, not happening for me

[radiant eagle]

restarting fixes it but idk

@carmine topaz

can you check my pack sometime?

see what to take out or not

[lusty bramble]

hihi, so for whatever reason my ship has really bad lighting issues and misplaced objects (i.e the vent on the ship), and im not sure why this could be, ive tried tinkering with my pack alot and just couldnt find the issue, it mostly happens with wide ship + 2 story ship but sometimes it happens on just the 2 story ship too

0192c10a-b962-0fd4-73df-4dcfdb9d9ead heres the code in case maybe i have a mod that has known issues with it

[carmine topaz]

the floating meter box is normal cus of ship orbit parts in CT, not sure why you're having lighting issues though it's possible you just don't like the changes that Celestial Tint does to it

Cus nothing looks off to me

[lusty bramble]

ohh maybe, ill take a screenshot next time i mess with it, it just makes it exremely dark for half of the ship and misplaces objects

im not sure if this darkness in the stairs is normal or not either but that might just be me-

[rich ice]

something is definitely off here

I'll probably look into it in a bit; but do you have any mods you know of that change or get rid of any ship object positions by chance?

[carmine topaz]

That has never happened for me

Odd

[lusty bramble]

from what i know i dont, aside from maybe ship windows, although i followed the instructions on the mod page about the dont move posters option or whatever it was called-

ive been also meaning to clean out this pack as well, though alot of it consists of suits and such

[rich ice]

is it possible to send a modpack code so I can try looking into what's happening here?

[lusty bramble]

oh shit i thought i did sorry!!

0192c2b5-0be5-36a7-010a-088a95245899

[rich ice]

oh oops

I guess I missed it

[ripe lotus]

Melanie, might have an issue.

i didnt write this code, but its always worked in vanilla.

this code makes masked stand in front of the terminal and face it, and then more code makes them use an animation to use the keyboard while on it.

WiderShip, ProblematicPilotry, and 2Story ship all seem to break this.. and I have no clue why.

in the case of 2story ship, if the terminal is within the normal ship bounds.. it works fine... but when you place the terminal upstairs.. the masked is hovering, facing the wrong way.. and im not sure they are actually using the terminal as nothing seemed to happen.

I am just wondering if you know why they might be misunderstanding the position of the terminal when its in the upper story? I have also attached how it normally is. I have seen similar issues with weirdly placed terminals... but never levitation.. making me think something is off with when the terminal is placed upstairs..(like it sets the wrong location.. i d k)

"this" = the MaskedPlayerEnemy btw.

((Component)this).transform.LookAt(new Vector3(((Component)terminal).transform.position.x, ((Component)this).transform.position.y, ((Component)terminal).transform.position.z));

((Component)this).transform.localPosition = new Vector3(((Component)terminal).transform.localPosition.x + 7f, ((Component)terminal).transform.localPosition.y + 0.25f, ((Component)terminal).transform.localPosition.z + -14.8f);

[barren vine]

should't you first move and then rotate?

[ripe lotus]

not my code. i inherited it.. its always worked shrug i can swap them around xD

[barren vine]

also the offsets seem hardocded assuming a specific rotation for the terminal

[ripe lotus]

the problem as i say though, is, anywhere outside of "vanilla ship area", it bugs out.. and problematic pilotry.. i assume because it moves the vanilla ship, also bugs out the vanilla ship area.. i just figured as 2story ship regens the navmesh, maybe there is an explanation for 2 story ship.

[barren vine]

if you rotate the terminal the positions will be wrong

[ripe lotus]

if that was the case, the masked wouldent be facing me in the picture. it would be facing to the right of the ship.

for some reason, the masked walked behind the terminal, came back, and through the terminal.. and then started using it like that.

[barren vine]

there is a difference between rotation and offsets

do you have a thread for this?

[ripe lotus]

there maybe a point to that.. but, the masked doesnt face the same way every time, either way, the issue is the fact is levitating which is why im bringing this up.

[ripe lotus]

my mod? yes.
https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1240985198485573743

[rich ice]

it's clearly learning to ascend beyond what it was originally made to do

but uh, yeah, I probably just made the second floor's navmesh a little too high or thick, bc when making the third floor and testing dogs, I noticed they were slightly floating above, too. Though about the rotation in facing away from the terminal, uh, idk

so yeah the floating is just an issue with my navmesh, but the terminal thing I don't know atm if it's anything with mine or not

[cloud panther]

From my testing, anytime i get an JLL-dependant interior on a modded moon, the outside navmesh breaks for enemies unless the moon is blacklisted in this mod. Blacklisting the moon in this mod's config or disabling this mod/navmesh also fixes it
Its odd thats its JLL-interiors specifically but vanilla interiors and ones that dont depend on it like poolrooms are fine and dont break the outside with 2-story, and it always works fine on vanilla moons

What are the effects of blacklisting a moon? Is that going to stop enemies from pathfinding upstairs in the ship?

[rich ice]

So how the blacklisting/disabling nav regen works is well, instead of spawning the navigation and regenerating it after vanilla (resulting in vanilla generation, then redoing the generation after), it spawns the navigation before vanilla, and then vanilla should be doing its own nav regen. I would have preferred this if it didn't turn out to be buggy in a lot of cases.
At times, it might not recognize the new nav and just act like vanilla (enemies will not like the upstairs), other times if combined, it can keep Wider Ship's original navmesh alongside the new one. Even issues on certain vanilla moons that fumo found out way before, and told me about (which is why Assurance and Embrion are defaulted on whitelist)

I read some of the extra context, and weird that this is happening with you specifically - chance it could be a chain-reaction. But either way, good things the blacklist exists to cater to cases like this, too

overall though, compared to outside enemies being completely unable to move, I think the chances of enemies say, only being able to mostly enter old ship areas in one case, is definitely the better of the two

[cloud panther]

Yeah

[rich ice]

I have a few codes I need to test for other bugs too, but you can always drop your mod profile code that's facing the issue so I could eventually decide to look into what might be happening, and if there's anything I can reasonably do on my end

[cloud panther]

Its also weird what breaks outside. Its Tulip Snakes, Spore Lizards (Solace), and any modded enemies
Dogs and bb hawks seem fine, as do enemies that come outside via starlancer escape

giants and robots also seem fine etc.

[rich ice]

hmmm, interesting

[paper compass]

what's JLL?

[cloud panther]

So i would have said its only modded enemies or things not intended for outside
but then tulip snakes couldnt move on maritopia....

so i have no clue

[cloud panther]

Library for WesleysInteriors, OneshotInteriors, Storehouse etc.

[paper compass]

ah, I thought it was a fork of LLL or something

[ripe lotus]

yeah the rotation seems to be an issue for me, but the masked did walk past the terminal and come back through it, not sure why xD

[rich ice]

have you ever seen any "SetDestination" errors in the logs or anything?

[barren vine]

your rotation issue was most likely the order of operations

what you were doing before is:

[rich ice]

(to Zeta)

[barren vine]

• wherever the masked was, turn to face the terminal
• then move in front of it

so if the masked was behind the terminal it would be facing the wrong way

[ripe lotus]

no i understand, but, the destination is set before the rotation.. so the mask walking past the terminal is.. interesting either way, after i test the changed code, ill re-have a look at that.

[cloud panther]

Nop, no errors from what i could see

[rich ice]

no errors is a worse issue than errors 😢

[cloud panther]

truly

[rich ice]

okay, well update on furniture mod; I would have added more furniture in this change, but I was pre-occupied with trying to figure out a certain system of duplicate furniture. I'm assuming I'll have more control over the events that play for unlockables if I manually did it instead of using LethalLib's pre-set stuff, which would let me try something to make it less buggy, but I don't feel like doing that yet, so I'll save that for later, to try out Matty's advice. For now I stuck with the current one as an optional thing in config. Anyways, here's the update log:

0.1.0

• Added working fire exit as a furniture item (only works on next landing after buying, not during. Can be disabled in config)
• Added twin bed with side cabinets.
• Added sectionable walls as furniture items.
• Added 3 sectionable door variants as furniture items.
• Added experimental and currently buggy duplicate furniture item registry, including for vanilla items. Can be set in config. (Positions and rotations do not save on reload, partially works with FurnitureLock, do NOT change on an existing saves!)
• Added config options to customize prices for furniture items in this mod.
• Added v65+ luck values to furniture items.
• Moved changelog to its own section.

[copper sage]

🔥👀🔥👀🔥

looks like i'll have some remodeling to do when i get home

also

https://i.gyazo.com/ccf1291290a06e43a8a4601fac3e4eef.jpg took me forever to figure out a position i like for the metal gate XD

[willow nexus]

You added WHAT

[slate sphinx]

Fire exit in the ship is crazy

It should have a long cooldown

[willow nexus]

I love it ngl

[copper sage]

can masked find their way in thru it? .3.

[sand hull]

That’d be hilarious

[copper sage]

regardless, i know where im putting it
looks at 3rd floor window

[vestal elk]

YO LETS GO JUST AS I GET THE MOD IT UPDATES

WE BE TURNING THE SHIP INTO A 3 STORY APARTMENT COMPLEX WITH THIS ONE

[brisk widget]

@rich ice

offence

[vestal elk]

can we get the ability to move the lever (and monitors with it) in this mod due to how much space there is (i wanna set it to the second/third story)

Also what was the mod that adds the carpets?

[rich ice]

should be this: https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/SmoothReserve/SmoothReserves_Decor/