THEY HATE PIKMIN
#[Discontinued] LethalMin (LC Pikmin Mod)
icy lantern
Mods, crush that guy's skull. Thank you
remote tree
THEY HATE PIKMIN
What if they accidentally bump into an idle pikmin and it goes into their squad
glad mist
Mods, crush that guy's skull. Thank you
AGREED
glad mist
What if they accidentally bump into an idle pikmin and it goes into their squad
They drown it
remote tree
They drown it
This is a reason to friendly fire them
glad mist
@tiny sable
BTW
Uh
Can we have compat with Wider Ship mod?
They kinda just go through the walls
tiny sable
I'm gonna add more config options that allow you to affect where the onions go when they land on the moons in the next update
tiny sable
in another mod
main blade
I'm gonna add more config options that allow you to affect where the onions go w...
very cool
is there going to be a more expensive pluckophone upgrade?
dense turret
in another mod
ooh, is a mod for pikmin critters planned?
remote tree
is there going to be a more expensive pluckophone upgrade?
I suggested this and they said they liked it
main blade
oh, also
glad mist
I'm gonna add more config options that allow you to affect where the onions go w...
What about the hitbox?
main blade
playing with cassette tapes, and the cassette replaced the whistle item
and now we weigh 100 pounds
plush pike
in another mod
Awesome!
remote tree
Will obv have direct compatibility
plush pike
playing with cassette tapes, and the cassette replaced the whistle item
Was it a fresh file or a continued save?
remote tree
https://tenor.com/view/waterwraith-water-wraith-crush-fall-gif-10772031563008610...
Btw what mod adds
fading pendant
well if u play in continued save while installs mod that add new items, there's chance ur current items in ur ship will get replaced
remote tree
I think Shrimps broken sadly
I swe- oh that makes sense
remote tree
well if u play in continued save while installs mod that add new items, there's ...
Can confirm from experience
Also
My store is shifted by one
Like i buy wallet but it gives whistle (for example)
gray timber
They kinda just go through the walls
thats more a problem with wider ship mod i think, assuming pikmin only use navmesh ( @tiny sable can correct me if im wrong)
main blade
Was it a fresh file or a continued save?
fresh
glad mist
thats more a problem with wider ship mod i think, assuming pikmin only use navme...
Ok Ok
Good to know
tiny sable
copilot
wind torrent
it seems copilot knows of a pikmin 3 deluxe port for windows
tiny sable
wind torrent
yo thatโs my favourite video game
lethal the lost chapters is really good highly recommend
south apex
got puffmin working
It'd be cool if they can latch onto you, but this works too
Maybe a config for that
undone hearth
Just seeing mask hurl puffmin at you is going be new ptsd
main blade
Question, which pikmin do what?
Red is immune to old birds flamethrower + higher damage
Blue is immune to flooding ig?
Yellow immune to bees + stormy weather
White ??
Purple (just 10 pikmin)
south apex
White poison enemies when eaten
main blade
I know what they are in the games, just wondering where the snethal overlap is
main blade
White poison enemies when eaten
Ah, so it does function. I assume its 1 whole damage and not the typical 0.05 damage a pikmin deals?
south apex
I think Notebox hasn't coded in White Pikmin poison when eaten damage yet
main blade
I think Notebox hasn't coded in White Pikmin poison when eaten damage yet
Thats what I was asking, functionally I mean
fading pendant
wait, old bird can't eat red?
south apex
Old Birds can't burn reds, although they can blow them up with missles
main blade
It was a showing in the trailer, where red was flamed and they survived
They should add a special thing for blues, since blues don't actually do much
south apex
I mean
fading pendant
purple have 10 pikmin strenght
main blade
Should add a speed multiplier on rainy and flooded days
south apex
They should add a special thing for blues, since blues don't actually do much
no wonder why they get totured every Pikmin game
main blade
no wonder why they get totured every Pikmin game
Blues are my fav in pikmin
fading pendant
also, bulbmin immune to almost all
south apex
fading pendant
but u can't store it
undone hearth
I think in first game blue did save drowning Pikmin then that logic was gone for others
main blade
but u can't store it
You can, in the pikmin container
south apex
You can't I've tried
fading pendant
mine only have option for white and purple
south apex
Same
main blade
Oop, sorry I misread
undone hearth
Note should make blue able to save drowning Pikmin
main blade
Still thoight you were talking about purples
fading pendant
it's like in the game
main blade
I think in first game blue did save drowning Pikmin then that logic was gone for...
First game I didn't really like tbh
south apex
Note should make blue able to save drowning Pikmin
note should sacarfice blue pikmin to the bulborbs
main blade
Played it once, maybe twice and never picked it up again
south apex
I once lost 70 pikmin to the Empress Bulblax
main blade
But nowhere near the baby difficulty of hey pik and pik3
main blade
I once lost 70 pikmin to the Empress Bulblax
Empress came from pikmin 2
The OG "I hate my players" game
south apex
The Empress Bulblax is in Pikmin 4 too
main blade
1 is difficult because its dumb, jank and has a time limit
south apex
yeah, I've heard how janky it is
main blade
2 is difficult because it fights you as you try to play it
Two completely different sets of difficulty
4 is difficult because it takes out the jank of 2, and presents a bigger variety
Tho ngl, not being able to have 5 types of pikmin out on the field, that blows
Having 20/20/20/20/20 was my go to in pik2, but eh
Small price to pay for ice pikmin
south apex
oatchi what happened
tiny sable
oatchi what happened
"SQUID GAMES โผ๏ธ"
main blade
But yeah, consider adding special effects for pikmin that arent really represented in snethal, like blues sped up on rainy days, or bulbmin being more powerful indoors than outdoors, or adding specific enemies that have those traits
tiny sable
mm I love cursed screenshots
attempting to use pikmin 4's animations
south apex
WHERE IS HIS EYES
tiny sable
untextured
south apex
tiny sable
plush pike
He will strike fear into employees
formal fog
do we have a list somewhere of confirmed custom interiors and moons that the pikmin struggle too much with?
I know they hate Arelion so far
south apex
I think the Storehouse is not good for Pikmin
but also people are saying pikmin fuction on Storehouse fine so idk
formal fog
I know they dont like the uhh... asylum or whatever interior. they see a lot of areas as un-navigateable
formal fog
Getting trapped between the pipes
stuff like that we can just toss them onto something that they can walk on
main blade
I meant carrying an item
south apex
Well the pipes on Offense must not have the NavMesh that allows enemies to go across stuff
like the jumps in facility
formal fog
I meant carrying an item
yeah if it doesnt have a walking path for enemies, it won't function for the pikmin either.
those jumps in vanilla facilities actualyl can be used by the pikmin, i'm not sure if they can while carrying an item though
south apex
They can
The only enemy is Bunker Spiders cause they are coded not to follow that type of NavMesh
tiny sable
Most of the issues with pathfinding like pikmin not being able to path some where have to do with the navmesh and not the pikmin. Like the Nevien Reactor interior, Genereic Moons, Castle Grounds moon, and Mentration moon.
main blade
:Nosey:
tiny sable
But issue with pikmin going into walls/ded ends most likely have to do with the Pikmin's AI.
main blade
Well, is not being able to grab an item pikmin are carrying (thrown by another player) a bug or a feature?
Say a scenario where pikmin get stuck, the owner dies, now they'll be stuck forever (unless you have a whistle)
tiny sable
๐ป๐๐ถ๐๐๐๐
tiny sable
Most of the issues with pathfinding like pikmin not being able to path some wher...
A sign when somthing like that is happening is when the Pikmin start "lagging" when moving.
proud mantle
do we have a list somewhere of confirmed custom interiors and moons that the pik...
On ScarletDevilMansion, Pikmin might fail to navigate those big rooms with stairs, getting stuck carrying items
tiny sable
[WIP] masked whistle
south apex
So like Moss but causes Pikmin to get turned into Puffmin?
tiny sable
Y
south apex
south apex
https://tenor.com/view/moss-pikmin-oatchi-pikmin-4-olimar-gif-112943389153928267...
Moss got fed too much bones from Olimar
remote tree
Moss got fed too much bones from Olimar
Did olimar put crystals (definitely sugar) on them?
south apex
maybe
remote tree
Oof
icy lantern
https://tenor.com/view/moss-pikmin-oatchi-pikmin-4-olimar-gif-112943389153928267...
WHAT HAPPENED TO HER
tiny sable
icy lantern
That fucking pink pikmin that I hate
tiny sable
That fucking pink pikmin that I hate
main blade
[WIP] masked whistle
Might wanna work on some time changes because hearing that while being chased will probably get annoying after a while
tiny sable
yeah the SFX are placeholders for now
main blade
Thats even more annoying lmao, I think something short like the "dismissal" sound from the whistle would be better
And maybe done only when the masked stops
Or when he grabs you
tiny sable
undone hearth
I love this already
south apex
attempting to make the project for my beautifal breadmin
main blade
Breadmin, bout time ๐ญ
south apex
YES
I finally got the unity project working
so I can now start following the tutorial video and yeah
hope my game doesn't shatter
oh is this normal or no
I pressed clear and its gone
but its saying LethalMin will not be loaded due to InputUtilties missing
oh so I need to add InputUtilties ok
tiny sable
tbh I recomend waiting for the Library Mod to release before making custom types. Because the Library's setup removes all need for setting up the unity project making it way easier to add in custom types. (That and the Pikmin Type scriptable objects from V0.1.x will become obsolete).
south apex
Oh dang, do you know when it'll release?
south apex
Alr, I've added a lot of the .dlls already tho so I might have to delete those
plush pike
Or when he grabs you
I like this idea, wouldnโt even need the whistle
plush pike
so havent had anymore issues with anyone throwing pikmin! that seems fixed completely. I read in one of the changelogs that hoardingbug function and bees were restored. I enabled them in the config but was still getting errors. heres the logs
dense turret
[WIP] masked whistle
it probably shouldn't do it at all times, and only when it has pikmin near
tiny sable
yeah ik
tiny sable
so havent had anymore issues with anyone throwing pikmin! that seems fixed compl...
Did you clear the entire EnemyAttackBlacklist config?
plush pike
Did you clear the entire EnemyAttackBlacklist config?
Oh no I did not
glad mist
Did you clear the entire EnemyAttackBlacklist config?
When taking Pikmin out of the onion the game still lags when they spawn
glad mist
The bigger the number the worse the lag obviously
But like I took out 20 and I dragged to like 12 frames
tiny sable
how long was the lag in total
glad mist
how long was the lag in total
As soon as they all spawned from the onion the lag stopped but some of my friends kept lagging with Pikmin about
They have a shit pc and complain a lot
tiny sable
DeathTrigger test
wind torrent
the cube of death
tiny sable
Looking at the code of SellDeadBodies fixed, it does exactly what I thought it did. How the mod works is that it spawns in an item prop that entirely replaces the enemy's regular dead body. But despite this, SellDeadBodies makes enemy courses ungrabable to entitles which is why Pikmin cannot carry coupes form SellDeadBodies.
gray timber
funnily enough i also think sellbodiesfixed sends unkillable enemies to a very far location, unrelated but funny
tiny sable
Yeah it does
remote tree
funnily enough i also think sellbodiesfixed sends unkillable enemies to a very f...
Doesnt sellbodies have bodies for unkillable entities, i saw jester box and old bird core
south apex
Thats if you have everythingcandie
remote tree
Ye ok
If i use that mod ill actually balance it by giving old birds 2x giant health
Then ruin it with instakill
tiny sable
Looking at the code of SellDeadBodies fixed, it does exactly what I thought it d...
A bypass to this is to just check if an item is a dead body, if it is, then add the Pikmin Item Node (The thing that allows pikmin to grab items) anyways.
Now pikmin are able to carry dead bodies
remote tree
Now pikmin are able to carry dead bodies
Im sure we all know where this is going
plush pike
Now pikmin are able to carry dead bodies
I say if making the onion making pikmin sprouts is too weird then just make them go in the onion like it does when there is too many pikmin on the field
fading pendant
hate when boulder spawn right in the onion
btw, i found out the numbers of pikmins from older save (even after the save file removed) carry over to new save file. for example in previous save file u have 5 pikmins, once u created new save, the game thinking u still have 5 pikmins
formal fog
waaa ;-;
They prefer to spawn in the catwalks, and also get stuck on the catwalks until you go through an exit/entrance.
Like they cant leave em
rough crown
I can fix the first one pretty easily, thought I fixed that before releasing but I guess I didnt lol - the second one I'm not sure what's the issue but I'll look into it
formal fog
Its weird because they can get into the catwalks just fine, just not leave them
rough crown
Its weird because they can get into the catwalks just fine, just not leave them
hmm do you remember which building variation did you have?
Now that im lookin at it I am missing AI nodes on my 4th version which looks like this
maybe this is the issue(?), if not then the issue could come from Pikmins being unable to use MediumSpace which my buildings use
They also shouldnt be able to spawn on catwalks since I'm using SpawnDenialPoints 
formal fog
Now that im lookin at it I am missing AI nodes on my 4th version which looks lik...
Yeah it looks like that, they favor spawning in those enclosed catwalks, only 1-3 spawn on the ground outside of them
plush pike
hey not sure if this is related, but I had an error with lethal min and then i kept getting a this error spammed
this is what kept spamming:
[Error : Unity Log] IndexOutOfRangeException: Index was outside the bounds of the array.Stack trace:SoundManager.PlayNonDiageticSound () (at <d491ed1d4cc34874a2498af41192fe04>:IL_0120)SoundManager.Update () (at <d491ed1d4cc34874a2498af41192fe04>:IL_0080)PlayNonDiageticSound
plush pike
Never mind, seems to be SCP dungeon
tiny sable
It'd be cool if they can latch onto you, but this works too
A current issue is that puffmin most of the time latch on to the player just out of view so you can't really tell most of the time if a puffmin is latched on to you or not
main blade
Except for yk, the damage indicator
tiny sable
south apex
Oh yeah! Epic
undone hearth
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/TPTNl29sPS8
When the blue has a deathwish.
tiny sable
south apex
Do you shake your screen to get them off?
dense turret
this clip doesn't end well
tiny sable
Do you shake your screen to get them off?
yeah
tiny sable
yeah?
glad mist
Is there a way to set Onions spawning?
tiny sable
as in where they land or when they spawn indoors
main blade
You can increase spawn rate
tiny sable
Oh, there is a way in that case
glad mist
Oh?
tiny sable
Create at least 3 empty game objects named "ONION_SPAWN_POINT_(number)" and move it to the positions where you want the onions to land on your moon
undone hearth
It's that easy?
tiny sable
Yeah
undone hearth
Dam
tiny sable
Nope, just an empty gameobject on your moon's scene named "ONION_SPAWN_POINT_(number)"
glad mist
Nope, just an empty gameobject on your moon's scene named "ONION_SPAWN_POINT_(nu...
For onion spawn point 1
Uh...
So first
Like this
Secondly
glad mist
Merged Pikmin bulb will spawn at POINT 1?
tiny sable
Yes
glad mist
Ok!
glad mist
Yes
OH
This is super SUPER dumb thing
Basically
The Blue Bulb Spawns where that grey one is
Can you like? Put a spawn point for a bulb
Or do you think that's too much
tiny sable
Unfortunately not yet, you can not set Onion Spawn Points for specific Onion Types.
glad mist
I seen a moon have scrap spawn outside
Im planning to do that
undone hearth
I am unsure if one can force spawn item though
glad mist
Imagine you can only reach the scrap on top of this stump with a ladder or yellow pikmin
undone hearth
True
remote tree
WAIT, can you do more than 3 to add compat for custom onions like orange and grey
tiny sable
WAIT, can you do more than 3 to add compat for custom onions like orange and gre...
Onions can fuse (theoretically) an unlimited amount of times. But it can only show 8 fusions at a time.
glad mist
Onions can fuse (theoretically) an unlimited amount of times. But it can only sh...
I HATE making moons dude
I'm gonna cry
Literally only gonna do one moon
How people be making 5
tiny sable
Whats so bad about it
tiny sable
I can understand that, especially if you don't have alot of experience with Unity.
glad mist
I can understand that, especially if you don't have alot of experience with Unit...
I have none
๐ญ
tiny sable
I have none
Well despite that you seem to be doing great so far.
Aside from some console errors, my own method of making bodies grabbable to pikmin seems to be working as exepected.
Which is just adding an PhysicsProp component on to the enemy's game object when it dies.
gray timber
If the host returns, won't grabbable still be true?
tiny sable
wdym
gray timber
Also making Item SO's in runtime without usinf a registry like LL or LLL is gonna.... mmmmm
gray timber
wdym
Well the third line makes it so non hosts return
And none of the variables in physicsprop are networked
So setting grabbable to false would only do that for the host
tiny sable
Oh yeah, thanks for catching that.
gray timber
Though grabbable might be false by default so it wouldn't cause an issue in this case? I don't remember for sure
tiny sable
oh yeah grabbable is false by default.
gray timber
remote tree
Aside from some console errors, my own method of making bodies grabbable to pikm...
How will it work with sellbodies?
tiny sable
If sellbodies is not installed then LethalMin will use it's own method to make enemies grabbable. But if it is installed then it will just use it's method to make enemies grabable and not use it's own method.
remote tree
If sellbodies is not installed then LethalMin will use it's own method to make e...
Ah, i see
Cools
tiny sable
dull orchid
Horrible
undone hearth
Yellow ain't immune
dense turret
yellow pikmin should be made immune to that
also will a config be available to make it so bodies are brought back to the ship to sell instead of the onion?
dense turret
the most ferocious battle
analog finch
anyone else have a problem with the pikmin just getting stuck going back and forth?
remote tree
Also, since when did the pikmin have unique pip colors
plush pike
anyone else have a problem with the pikmin just getting stuck going back and for...
I had this happen on storeroom interior when very far in
analog finch
I had this happen on both vanilla interiors
sorry, caves and facility, fogot there are 3 now
dense turret
Also, since when did the pikmin have unique pip colors
pip?
if you mean radar, they've always had that
tiny sable
anyone else have a problem with the pikmin just getting stuck going back and for...
Sometimes Pikmin will walk around in a circles if they can not find a pathable way to an exit.
Did it look like they where bugging out or where they just moving back and forth normally?
analog finch
just stuck moving like a few steps worth back and forth
these were on vanilla interiors on vanilla moons
I think it might have been one of the other mods conflicting? cause I removed a couple of things that really shouldn't have affected and it stopped
so idk
if it was, I think it was the mall wizard mod somehow
tiny sable
I'm gonna have to redo the exit determining system again because I have also seen the pikmin glitch out in the mineshaft.
Anyways, I've now made it so that the Physics Object Component is only added to the enemy when a Pikmin attempts to grab it. Just so that the system LethalMin uses to make enemies grabbable is a little less 'destructive'.
(The coroutine error is unrelated)
analog finch
also, are pikmin supposed to carry stuff all the way to the ship, or drop it at the door inside or is that a config thing?
tiny sable
When indoors, Pikmin will just drop scrap at their target exit. When outdoors, Pikmin will drop the scrap in the ship.
analog finch
ok
remote tree
Sometimes Pikmin will walk around in a circles if they can not find a pathable w...
Wait you coded it so it does the little circle thing
Such attention to detail
remote tree
I saw this happen on that moon with glowing red stuff that functions as quicksand
I forget the name
tiny sable
Is that a sprout growing in water?
glad mist
Is that a sprout growing in water?
Yeah...
tiny sable
Currently, the only way to prevent that is to not put any AI nodes in water
remote tree
Btw pineapple
If your going to not do many moon mods
You are obliged to atleast do all the maps from 2 to match the awakening wood one
(Or come up with an excuse not to lol)
And hopefully you get used to it and you can do it for all the piked man maps
Also whats the mod that adds the pikmin 2 cave layouts to interiords?
And also also can you set it to guarantee those interiors on the pikmin moons
glad mist
And also also can you set it to guarantee those interiors on the pikmin moons
Uh... idk how ill ask around
glad mist
Also whats the mod that adds the pikmin 2 cave layouts to interiords?
No release atm
remote tree
Oh ok
remote tree
Uh... idk how ill ask around
Kk
proud mantle
Uh... idk how ill ask around
I think the interior itself needs to assign itself to the moon, at least from what I can tell in LLL' config
glad mist
I think the interior itself needs to assign itself to the moon, at least from wh...
Alr
When it releases I'll see what I can do
proud mantle
DM the creator, maybe you 2 could work out some comparability day 1 or something
glad mist
DM the creator, maybe you 2 could work out some comparability day 1 or something
TRue
idk who the creator is again
But lmk and ill see what I can fo
Do
plush pike
if it was, I think it was the mall wizard mod somehow
I donโt think the pikmin can carry the scrap that walks around
fallow mist
tiny sable
In that case It might be due to the fact I stupidly used <= instead of just < on this line of code
glad mist
What can I do?
tiny sable
Just to test this, turn off Onion Fusing in the config and the collect another onion, then reland on the moon to see if it lands where it should.
glad mist
Just to test this, turn off Onion Fusing in the config and the collect another o...
One sec
Whoops
glad mist
Just to test this, turn off Onion Fusing in the config and the collect another o...
How do I spawn an onion with Imperium
tiny sable
Due to the way onions spawn, you cant normally spawn it in with Imperium. However, you can turn up the onion spawn chance to 1 (100%) in the config, and just use imperium to teleport the onions that spawned indoors up to the surface.
glad mist
Just to test this, turn off Onion Fusing in the config and the collect another o...
Btw relanding they understood what to do
tiny sable
Yeah, so the issue is initially occurring because the mod doesn't do the check for custom spawn points if there is only one onion in the save data because the for loop immediately skips itself because 1 is <= 1.
dense turret
would it be possible to make more pikmin of a certain type spawn in certain weathers? like more blues in flooded or more yellows in stormy
tiny sable
That is already a thing
analog finch
I donโt think the pikmin can carry the scrap that walks around
not the scrap, the enemy
and they weren't carrying it
gray timber
That is already a thing
If you want to add custom weather support, you should probably talk to @naive stream about giving a bridge for us (since he's made weather registry)
tiny sable
If you want to add custom weather support, you should probably talk to <@2310024...
I'm not planning on adding custom weather support, but I'll keep that in mind.
dense turret
very normal tulip snake activity
icy lantern
<:agony:1199993438377091123>
@gritty thicket
tiny sable
I just realized the SpawnPoint issue is caused by the fact the mod checks for the save data instead of the registered onions dictionary
glad mist
Oh yeah how's the moon
tiny sable
proud mantle
<:agony:1199993438377091123>
He did not want to go in there
glad mist
Only 60?
tiny sable
60 out of 60
glad mist
tiny sable
dense turret
it checks out
naive stream
I'm not planning on adding custom weather support, but I'll keep that in mind.
๐ ๐
tiny sable
Onions can now produce sprouts
glad mist
Onions can now produce sprouts
plush pike
Onions can now produce sprouts
Peakmin
fading pendant
i got a problem
when i throw pikmin to the smiling critters, the pikmin disappear
glad mist
The who
tiny sable
i got a problem
when i throw pikmin to the smiling critters, the pikmin disappea...
wdym
fading pendant
maybe, they just ate the pikmin
fading pendant
plush pike
SMILING CRITTERS
tiny sable
Added Sprout Animation
glad mist
Added Sprout Animation
Are the AI nodes working?
south apex
Can't wait for the update to release so I can get to modding my Breadmin
undone hearth
Added Sprout Animation
The pikmin demand blood rituals to grow in numbers
gritty thicket
<:agony:1199993438377091123>
WHAT
tiny sable
plush pike
Are you waiting to release this as one big update or is a partial update coming soon?
tiny sable
I'm releaseing it a a big update
plush pike
Awesome
tiny sable
New Pikmin Container
undone hearth
New Pikmin Container
Holy fuck that looks amazing
plush pike
Based and louiepilled
remote tree
Added Sprout Animation
does the system to decide which type gets sprouted from merged onions work the same?
tiny sable
Havent tested
remote tree
Havent tested
kk
btw incase u didnt know, in the original pikmin its decided by which type has the most pikmin carrying the object
also just saw the new container
SHEEEEESH
tiny sable
thats an issue I've been having from the start
the failsafe I created for that must not be working fully
glad mist
the failsafe I created for that must not be working fully
Good to know
wind torrent
i made the pikmins abduct a cat
excuse me?
glad mist
@tiny sable
Uh...
Weird things are happening
Is the pikmin moon working or not working?
glad mist
It's working normally for me
As of the new update the ai nodes are gone??
My test pack is fine
But the thunderstore version isnt?
Can you test V 1.1.1?
glad mist
It's working normally for me
Ok if it doesn't mess around in your pack. SOMETHING IS DELETING MY AI NODES
tiny sable
If it helps here is by profile code: 019309e9-b233-4e3d-1986-bb5ee27f31d0
glad mist
If it helps here is by profile code: 019309e9-b233-4e3d-1986-bb5ee27f31d0
No no my test pack is fine
Its just...
My usual pack I use for stuff
It stopped working
glad mist
If it helps here is by profile code: 019309e9-b233-4e3d-1986-bb5ee27f31d0
YEAH
WHGAT IS THIS?
glad mist
The only errors I get like those are these
IS there a fix for this
glad mist
My pack does this
tiny sable
I'm not sure. Mabey re-evalualte your pack
gray timber
u can ignore runtime navmesh builder errors
tiny sable
what?
remote tree
also a bug with this mod
tiny sable
Oh yeah I saw that. You might need to resize the fog volume box thingy
tiny sable
That will be fixed in v0.2.0
remote tree
kk
tiny sable
But for now you can change inputs on the main meun
gray timber
in what way?
glad mist
in what way?
The AI nodes just... Stop existing
gray timber
and how'd you figure that out?
glad mist
But it's a mod that's doing it
glad mist
and how'd you figure that out?
In my test map its fine just no issues.
But my group modpack
It just... DELETES EVERYTHING
gray timber
no but have you looked using unity explorer whether the nodes are there or what are you observing that makes you think the ai nodes are gone
tiny sable
I recognize the names, the errors are being thrown from the maps terrain and not just hanging lamps.
gray timber
that would mean theres no navmesh rather than nodes
go to the ground meshes or whatever
the fbx for them
tiny sable
That would be the cause of the broken enemy movement because the navmesh is not being built properly
gray timber
set read access to true
this allows navmesh to spawn on those meshes
the bottom option, set it to true on surfaces where navmesh SHOULD generate
the erorr is just telling you that you have stuff where navmesh tried to generate but couldnt because read/write access isnt given
the error is more descriptive rather than breakign everything
ur ai nodes are fine
glad mist
the bottom option, set it to true on surfaces where navmesh SHOULD generate
Thanks for hsowing
Lemme check
glad mist
the bottom option, set it to true on surfaces where navmesh SHOULD generate
Wait where?
gray timber
the ones that you want navmesh to generate on
glad mist
gray timber
navmesh is the thing that enemies and pikmin use to traverse terrain
glad mist
?
gray timber
i have no idea what awakening wood is but this would allow navmesh to generate on top of the awakening wood
a prime example since im in the artifice scene rn is the fbx for the artifice's terrain would have read/write turned on
glad mist
i have no idea what awakening wood is but this would allow navmesh to generate o...
Its the map
gray timber
yeah the blue stuff is navmesh
gray timber
unity editor and ingame might be a bit different if thats how you're testing
glad mist
No no
I test in game only
And my test pack works but the other doesnt
Its strange af
gray timber
i have no idea either then
glad mist
Guess ill try this
gray timber
its a bear trap, its on teh ground area
already*
its also a hazard, so it spawns AFTER the game generates navmesh
glad mist
OH
gray timber
so no point allowing it really
gray timber
still not workin?
glad mist
And since the uh read access was disabled it scrapped it
gray timber
ah
gray timber
nice then
gray timber
you might have to add a link inbetween the places where theres no navmesh path like the start of that bridge, or manually forcing navmesh to spawn in the parts it isnt spawning
@rough crown might know how to do the latter
glad mist
you might have to add a link inbetween the places where theres no navmesh path l...
Manually force it?
gray timber
yeah im 90% sure theres a way u can force it
gray timber
lol
glad mist
yeah im 90% sure theres a way u can force it
I would love to know how
gray timber
you'll just have to wait a bit for someone to chime in who knows and tell ya
remote tree
yo is the rock pikmin done
glad mist
Oh yeah I saw that. You might need to resize the fog volume box thingy
I tried this btw
Nothing happened
Unity says there is fog
And it's even there!
glad mist
When purple and white onions?
There's never been white or purple
They're stored in the ship like the OG game
main blade
But yes, they're the last thing you get after you complete everything. So yk, its like that ability that allows you to carry your own items without pikmin
Super cool concept
Given away at the end of a game for a final "fuck you" to all of the pikmin fans
glad mist
Wow I did not know this
glad mist
But yes, they're the last thing you get *after* you complete everything. So yk, ...
So it just became lethal
main blade
Except you have 1 carry strength
Which is, yk, pathetic
But yeah. The "super" upgrades in 4 are:
Captain carry items (1 strength)
White & purple onions
Pikmin 2 C-stick horn
Captain you get for 100% the game, white and purple onions you get from beating those dandori trials, pikmin 2 C-stick horn you get from louie I think after beating olimar's mode?
gritty thicket
remote tree
But yes, they're the last thing you get *after* you complete everything. So yk, ...
wrong again
trial of the sage leaf
remote tree
can we pls get the pluckaphone in this update
main blade
Captain you get for 100% the game, white and purple onions you get from beating ...
@remote tree
tiny sable
Any ideas on redesigns for the HUD?
glad mist
Any ideas on redesigns for the HUD?
What changed?
tiny sable
I'm just asking for suggestions on how should I redesign the HUD
undone hearth
I'm just asking for suggestions on how should I redesign the HUD
One idea is to make it similar to the rest of the HUD, it's kinda bright and not glitchy so it stands out way too much, but thats just my suggestion
undone hearth
https://preview.redd.it/adding-a-game-hud-on-top-of-pikmin-2-until-pikmin-4-v0-m...
Why
tiny sable
based
glad mist
Any ideas on redesigns for the HUD?
IDK if this a good suggestion
But I kinda like the uh simplified Version
plush pike
Personally I didnโt mind the hud I just made it smaller
glad mist
Personally I didnโt mind the hud I just made it smaller
Also true
undone hearth
As a option I would love this
glad mist
As a option I would love this
Simplified HUD option
tiny sable
Yeah thats what I had in mind aswell
undone hearth
Me getting happier by the second
tiny sable
no
main blade
As a config option?
tiny sable
Because this mod (mechanically) is mainly based around Pikmin 1 and 2.
main blade
But you have the merged onions feature?
undone hearth
Yea but like, would be better if there was ultra rare chance on S++ moons though
main blade
I just dont see the pushback (especially if its easy), because you can have the container to keep them, until you get to strong moons (that cost money), and at that point, you'll have blue, yellow etc etc onions, and be able to breed those
And the purple and white onions being able to breed will be a reward for exploring those tough tough planets that cost a ton to get to
So its not like you'll be turning your 251$ container into a redundant piece, it'll have its use for those who want it
Also, I changed the throw pikmin to R, and sometimes it ignores my setting and it forces me to use 4, even if it says R in the config, and in my control settings
undone hearth
Man has point make people suffer hardest planet for white and purple onions
Though I rather have them be ultra rare on S++ because real challenge
wind torrent
But you have the merged onions feature?
i think its just because they take up a bunch more space when they arenโt merged
tiny sable
Spore Lizards can now Poison Pikmin
undone hearth
White Pikmin gaming
glad mist
Spore Lizards can now Poison Pikmin
Awesine
dense turret
my ears :(
tiny sable
The audio will be fixed
main blade
Also, I changed the throw pikmin to R, and sometimes it ignores my setting and i...
Got a fix for this?
tiny sable
deja vu
tiny sable
Got a fix for this?
Yes it will be fixed in the next update
plush pike
And eta on the release date for the new update?
tiny sable
what about them
tiny sable
Mostly on the client-side
undone hearth
Fair
tiny sable
Didn't I reduce the lag in like 0.1.4 or somethin
glad mist
Didn't I reduce the lag in like 0.1.4 or somethin
Also no...
tiny sable
remote tree
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Oh ok
south apex
But here is the updated ToDo list
main blade
Question, for carrying bodies, do pikmin have the ability to carry with the lethal escape mod?
Ie, if a bracken is outside, can it be ganked and then put into onion?
And lastly, does it do the same for unkillable enemies? Like yk the giant and old birds and the other ones that allow death with the "killallthethings" mod
glad mist
Wait what
main blade
Pikmin carry bodies to the onion. Does this work with mods where the outside enemies consist of things other than tulip snakes, bees, dogs and giants
remote tree
Pikmin carry bodies to the onion. Does this work with mods where the outside ene...
Iโd assume yes since this can also use sellable bodies which can go outside
main blade
Iโd assume yes since this can also use sellable bodies which can go outside
This is very good to know, if true
south apex
My concern being invincible mobs
Invincible enemies just won't die, so Pikmin will not attempt to grab them and take it to the onion
Thats if you have everythingcandie
Still, they will carry it to the onion like any other dead body
main blade
Mmm pileup might be issue but eh
tiny sable
Question, for carrying bodies, do pikmin have the ability to carry with the leth...
Pikmin will be able to "Lethal Escape" as I call it in general without the LethalEscape mod installed
Also here is a newer ToDo list
glad mist
Also here is a newer ToDo list
RIP
glad mist
@tiny sable
What is the like
Name of the pikmin
If I was to add it to a blacklist
tiny sable
Im gonna kms
glad mist
tiny sable
What do you guys think about this Hud Layout (proof of concept not final)
plush pike
Iโll be honest I liked it more to the right
But if we can still change itโs position thatโs not bad
tiny sable
I don't really like the right corner due to the fact that It overlaps too many other UI elements there
undone hearth
I don't really like the right corner due to the fact that It overlaps too many o...
It also over laps with default reserved, and tight side also laps over text chat
wind torrent
looks good but i think it would look better if it was top to bottom on the right side
formal fog
if I add everything can die, will pikmin start latching onto them or will they just chase them and be crushed inevetibly because thats their favorite passtime
tiny sable
It depends on how the EverythingDies mod works
formal fog
Also I'd love a config for baboon hawks cuz they just kinda.. slurp up entire hordes of pikmin in a second
faster than a snagret
tiny sable
glad mist
GOATED
undone hearth
Yes
tiny sable
I used the tragedy mask instead of the game-accurate comedy mask because I hate the comedy mask's face
and the tragidy mask fits better here anyways
remote tree
Can whites be puffed? (And bulb)
tiny sable
Thankfully no
remote tree
Do these guys actually come from the Pikmin games
Lil bro has NOT played pikmin 1
icy lantern
I have not, yes
remote tree
Theyโre puffmin
Obtained through pikmin 1 puffstool
They can be commanded by a glitch
And only by a glitch
They go normal whenever a task is completed
tiny sable
Like bulbmin, they have not returned since their debute game.
tiny sable
Is this on a modded moon
tiny sable
ModList plz
icy lantern
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Idk if it'll work since I think R2 and Gale codes are incompatible with each other, but I hope it works
OH
It's literally right there
Incompatibility with SmartItemSaving
tiny sable
๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐
I'll add that to the list of mods compatibilties I need to add
tiny sable
what
tiny sable
โ๏ธ
The console is throwing this:
[02:23:26.3266830] [Error : Unity Log] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
Stack trace:
LethalMin.Patches.GrabbableObjectPatch.CreatePikminItem (GrabbableObject grabbableObject) (at ./LethalMin/Patches/GrabbableObjectPatch.cs:50)
LethalMin.Patches.GrabbableObjectPatch.StartPostfix (GrabbableObject __instance) (at ./LethalMin/Patches/GrabbableObjectPatch.cs:16)
(wrapper dynamic-method) GrabbableObject.DMDGrabbableObject::Start(GrabbableObject)
(wrapper dynamic-method) MonoMod.Utils.DynamicMethodDefinition.TrampolineGrabbableObject::Start?-459710568(GrabbableObject)
SmartItemSaving.Patches.GrabbableObject_Start (On.GrabbableObject+orig_Start orig, GrabbableObject self) (at D:/projects/mods/lethal-company/SmartItemSaving/src/Patches.cs:400)
(wrapper dynamic-method) MonoMod.Utils.DynamicMethodDefinition.HookGrabbableObject::Start?1536041704(GrabbableObject)
Meaning that there might be another mod that could be breaking both SmartItemSaving and LethalMin Since both are mentioned in one error log
So I bet the error will still occur if I disabled just LethalMin and kept SaveItemSaving on
nvm I was wrong
also I said this before, I cannot rollout a quick patch for this because I'm an idiot and did not think to create a branch on github for the 0.2.0 update and now I'm too deep into 0.2.0 to go back.
icy lantern
also I said this before, I cannot rollout a quick patch for this because I'm an ...
So sorry for ur loss ๐
tiny sable
well on the upside I now know that Gale exists, which I am liking better than r2modman
Mainly because you can see the full description of the mod without needing to go to the webpage
tiny sable
Oh my god
Yep, gale is the best mod manager
Now I don't need to waste time attempting to run 2 instances of lethal company automatically with .bat/.ps2 files.
gaunt mirage
Only real issue ive encounted is pikman move way to slowly until they pick up an item, its really odd
tiny sable
That has to do with the way speed is calculated when carrying an item
dense turret
Thunderstore walked so R2 could run and Gale could go at mach 10
r2 was casually taking a stroll and thunderstore tried to shove it out of the way
wind torrent
Only real issue ive encounted is pikman move way to slowly until they pick up an...
ive seen you somewhere else
in another server i mean
tiny sable
This list?
undone hearth
This list?
dam
tiny sable
I'm making it so Pikmin can take items out of the facility and so that they get stuck less often. The Route System is the system that tells the Pikmin where to go when carrying an item.
glad mist
I'm making it so Pikmin can take items out of the facility and so that they get ...
YOU SHOULD ASK XU
They created the shockwave gal with the ability to take stuff back to ship
I dunno if it comes back but I think it does
tiny sable
I'm fine, I already got it figured out.
glad mist
Nice work!
tiny sable
tiny sable
It's the thing that converts a PikminType created using the LethalMin Library to a PikminType that the main LethalMin mod can use.
glad mist
Awe man
tiny sable
plush pike
Good thing that purple pikmin had that sign or I would t know who he was
glad mist
Good thing that purple pikmin had that sign or I would t know who he was
Dude I didn't even see that
tiny sable
tiny sable
What happened to the model
"๐ "
tiny sable
idk it was like that when I imported it from sketchfab
tiny sable
I'm cooking again
tiny sable
yeah?
glad mist
In Pikmin when they drop from a ledge they like... Trip or fall over
Would that be possible?
Or is that too much physics
tiny sable
Would that be possible?
Prolly not
glad mist
Ok makes sense
glad mist
Prolly not
OH HEY
One more idea
Red Pikmin will go through water making them drown
Can there be an option for them to find a way around the water?
There's even a ledge for them.
But since the water area is closer they go there instead
tiny sable
Mabey
undone hearth
Would that be possible?
Wouldn't that require the nav mech to nav off links though which would mean messing with scene
glad mist
Wouldn't that require the nav mech to nav off links though which would mean mess...
No?
Idk
undone hearth
No?
nav offlinks is what the AI needs to make those hope and stuff, also is seen on ladder that they climb so
remote tree
Pikmin: hello leader, why do you have that funny glowing mask
tiny sable
glad mist
TF IS THAR
tiny sable
A Functional Custom "Pikmin" Type made using the Library Plugin.
Meaning I can check that off the ToDo List:
remote tree
A Functional Custom "Pikmin" Type made using the Library Plugin.
Is this orange without the model?
tiny sable
no :(
dense turret
it's hit movie The Cube
tiny sable
Is this orange without the model?
it's just a basic pikmin type with a cube model
remote tree
Meaning I can check that off the ToDo List:
Iโd say releasable when routing system is redone
south apex
Meaning I can check that off the ToDo List:
yay
tiny sable
Also I forgot to mention, Custom Pikmin Types can now have a spesefic carry strength instead of just 1 or 10
undone hearth
Also I forgot to mention, Custom Pikmin Types can now have a spesefic carry stre...
Moai pikmin when
south apex
Oh sweet
south apex
Moai pikmin when
in Pikmin -1
undone hearth
Bikmin
they were from that
one of the bikmin mods
Very cursed pikmin mod though
stone idol
Are there plans for the other remaining types of pikmin? Winged, rock, ice and glow?
tiny sable
mabey
undone hearth
Wing is going be interesting
Since they fly
I guess this also apllies to the almighty glow
wind torrent
Are there plans for the other remaining types of pikmin? Winged, rock, ice and g...
i made rock pikmin but they have no animations
and they will probably be broken once the big mod update comes out
dense turret
i like the current selection, i don't think any more pikmin are needed for the base mod
undone hearth
Honestly pikmin 3 and 4 addons just be good
Also the only thing ice would be fun with is
undone hearth
Freezzing water
wind torrent
if i want to
and if i finish the rock pikmin
i probably will but maybe not because making the animations is very boring
main blade
They would need coding to make Winged Pikmin
just use lootbugs lmao
main blade
they fly
south apex
No I meant like
wind torrent
dont think you could use their code
you would need to make some changes to the item pathing
of the pikmin
south apex
If a Winged Pikmin and a Red Pikmin attempt to grab a object, the Winged Pikmin would have to fly down to the object instead of carrying it in the sky
But if all wings grab it, they will make it float
wind torrent
i donโt think it would require a lot of code to make it work
then again i canโt code at all
south apex
same lol
icy lantern
Manticoil code:
wind torrent
as i said i dont think you could reuse the code from other enemies
yes they both fly and move around but its not the same thing
wind torrent
more ways to get pikmin killed
main blade
oh, salty is involved in the mod, that makes sense actually
wind torrent
i think hes just working on another mod
that adds cave interiors
something like that idk
tiny sable
salty is involved a little as he helped me with the particles shown in that image
wind torrent
ah ok
plush pike
Thatโs really cool
tiny sable
Pikmin can now LethalEscape
glad mist
Pikmin can now LethalEscape
Oh it's done?
tiny sable
Oh it's done?
Not just yet as there are still some tweeks that need to be made
glad mist
Okay okay
remote tree
Will this mods method to make the enemies grabbable let them use the skins from #1220501885753098250
tiny sable
Yeah it should.
Because all it does is add a grabable object script to the enemy's gameobject and doesn't repalce it like SellBodiesFixed does
remote tree
Ye ok
analog finch
Pikmin can now LethalEscape
do they escape by default, or is there some config or something that we need to change?
fading pendant
pretty sure pikmin that spawn in interior never move
but yes, they can follow u outside by default
analog finch
no, i mean with the new lethalescape functionality
gaunt mirage
no, i mean with the new lethalescape functionality
i was wondering the same thing
analog finch
i was wondering the same thing
thought that was German or something for a second
plush pike
This update is gonna be sweet
tiny sable
dense turret
Pikmin can now LethalEscape
i think the control text should be a bit smaller
glad mist
What happened
glad mist
EXCUSE ME WHAT THE FUCK IS EATING THE YELLOW PIKMIN
tiny sable
What happened
Provenance
glad mist
Provenance
What
wind torrent
they can eat pikmin?
tiny sable
the camera angle is werid
the pikmin are just latched on to it's eye
they are not being eaten
wind torrent
ah
glad mist
they are not being eaten
Weird
@tiny sable btw
Can we have the uh super whistle upgrade
As an upgrade
tiny sable
mabey
dense turret
it's called the pluckophone...
also will more enemies be able to shake pikmin off in 2.0.0
glad mist
it's called the pluckophone...
I'm lazy
tiny sable
I need to whistle the Pikmin out the ground
Btw, I'm cutting a lot of features for 0.2.0 to get the update out in a timely fashion. That will be includeing altentive calling methods.
glad mist
Btw, I'm cutting a lot of features for 0.2.0 to get the update out in a timely f...
That's fine with me
Functioning onions are better anyways
gaunt mirage
Btw, I'm cutting a lot of features for 0.2.0 to get the update out in a timely f...
are escape pikman coming soon?
gaunt mirage
Pikmin can now LethalEscape
bro got the shit beat out of him
tiny sable
what