[Discontinued] LethalMin (LC Pikmin Mod)

[glad mist]

Lol

Happens all the time when making a mod

Also might want a config to disable scanning pikmin

[blazing tusk]

they had it the other way in pikmin 2

or 1

i forget

[glad mist]

Wow they... Get stuck.

[wind torrent]

yeah they do that a lot from what ive tried

[tiny sable]

I'm gonna make a day one patch

[blazing tusk]

v 0.1.01

[tiny sable]

*v0.1.1

[wind torrent]

something that would be nice is where you double tap the whistle to call pikmin who are carrying stuff

i think thats how i works in the games

[tiny sable]

thats in pikmin 3 and 4 fyi

[wind torrent]

ah

its still a good qol feature

[south apex]

Is there a config to make them faster?

They slow as heck

[tiny sable]

there will be a config in the patch

[south apex]

Yay

[plush pike]

Looking forward to the patch but still loving the mod so far

[glad mist]

Is there like. Something to why the pikmin move choppy?

[tiny sable]

no idea

[plush pike]

Do you have a lot of mods? This is probably a performance heavy mod

[glad mist]

No it's just the pikmin lagging

[tiny sable]

It's not an issue with other mods, it's just an issue with the path finding

[quartz vault]

Guys guys Pikmin getting stuck isn't a bug it's accurate to Pikmin 1

[glad mist]

OHHHHHHHHH

THEY HAVE A POINT

[south apex]

One must imagine Olimar losing Pikmin on wall

https://tenor.com/view/sisyphus-rock-mp4-transparent-color-gif-11114772717737196968

[tiny sable]

The mod is open source so anyone could try to fix it btw
https://github.com/NoteBoxz/LethalMin

[south apex]

Oh yay custom Pikmin tutorial somewhat

[plush pike]

I wonder if the guy who made the intern mod could help. Didn’t he make a mod where you can make other employees who pathfind and stuff?

[south apex]

Do you know if the Pikmin tutorial works with NomNom’s project patcher?

[tiny sable]

idk

[south apex]

Dang I guess I’ll just have to test

It should be able to

Since NomNom’s I think just adds in the actual game stuff while the one you made it in is useful for creating the mod mostly

[tiny sable]

wow I didn't even know this existed I'll have to try it https://github.com/nomnomab/unity-lc-project-patcher

[south apex]

I think it’s better than the one your using rn

From what I heard I think yours is a bit buggy but idk

[dense turret]

an ingame tutorial for the pikmin would be nice

also maybe using input utils or whatever for the controls instead of the config

[glad mist]

Could ask

[tiny sable]

bug fixes first, qol additions next

[glad mist]

👍

[tiny sable]

Here is the pikmin's navmesh agent. Mabey something in this is causeing the studder?

wait a minute

This is a hoarding bug's navmesh

Auto Breaking is off so the maybe pikmin having Auto Breaking on is the cause of the studder?

[dense turret]

what makes dynamic positioning host only?

[tiny sable]

Pathfinding is only done on the host's side

[dense turret]

so if a non-host is the leader, they won't dynamically position?

[tiny sable]

yeah

I'll prolly change that in a later update

[dense turret]

do onions spawn inside as regular scrap

[tiny sable]

Yeah

[tiny sable]

nope it didn't work

[dense turret]

i feel like there's meant to be more text here

[tiny sable]

oops

[dense turret]

i assume it means "Makes Hoarding Bugs attack Pikmin if a pikmin attempts to grab its scrap."

[tiny sable]

yeah

[glad mist]

WOAH

Also probably

[tiny sable]

^^^^

[dense turret]

how do you pre-define a spawn position for onions on a modded moon?

[glad mist]

Damn...

[tiny sable]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/NotezyTeam/LethalMin/wiki/2681-custom-onion-spawn-positions/

[dense turret]

shotguns can't be carried by pikmin by default i think but what if they could and they had a chance to misfire it every so often if the safety was off

[glad mist]

@tiny sable

I would suggest checking out starlights ai changing

[tiny sable]

maybe

[dense turret]

pikmin seem incredibly slow for some reason, slower than a crouching player

[tiny sable]

are they leafs? Because Pikmin go faster when they grow into a bud / flower

[dense turret]

ah they probably were

also how do you get pikmin to actually pick up scrap? throwing them at it isn't working

oh i had to throw a bunch at once

nevermind

[tiny sable]

Sometimes you need to move the scrap because pikmin cannot detect items well when items are near walls/edges

[dense turret]

you can scan randomly interior spawning pikmin (white, purple, bulbmin) through walls

also after leaving all of my pikmin behind since i didn't have an onion, it said i left behind 0

[tiny sable]

It only counts pikmin that have onions.

[dense turret]

ah

[dense turret]

also randomly interior spawnnig pikmin feel really common

[glad mist]

I will say again

Can we have a config to disable

Scanning Pikmin

[tiny sable]

LethalMin uses it's own spawning system for pikmin, so instead of spawning through the day, pikmin spawn in instantly when the moon loads.

[tiny sable]

Yes

[glad mist]

Thanks

Oh yeah btw

You can scan the whistle While you're holding it

[tiny sable]

I forgoy to fix that

[glad mist]

All good lol

[glad mist]

Btw Pikmin stutter when walking too

It's a weird kinda stutter

You could ask Xu for some ideas

[quartz vault]

Can non-hosts use the whistle/"claim" pikmin? I'm watching my friend try and they just ignore him

[glad mist]

Like where they're walking here

[tiny sable]

non-host players should beable to whistle pikmin

[glad mist]

Idk what happened

But that's what I expect them to move and rn they like shuffle

[dense turret]

after exiting the building on vow, all the pikmin teleported across the bridge instead of to my feet

[tiny sable]

thats also an issue I don't know how to fix

[dense turret]

would be silly if purple pikmin made the bridge shake

pikmin look like they're viciously trying to attack your head if you throw them while a tulip snake is on you

i threw a bunch of pikmin at a large axle at once and the axle, along with a majority of the pikmin, vanished completely

[tiny sable]

was this on a modded moon?

[dense turret]

was on vow

i found a few of my pikmin randomly scattered around the map outside

[tiny sable]

i'll look into that

[dense turret]

pikmin seem to do decently with modded interiors. they can navigate to main and fire exits, but seemed to appear in random spots and can't phase through doors like they can in the regular facility

they have the onion...

BUTLERS POPPING KILLS PIKMIN

THAT MAKES SENSE AND IS GOOD BALANCE BECAUSE THE KNIFE BUT IT'S EVIL

i wonder if it'd be possible to add randomly spawning hazards from pikmin? things like fire geysers, electrical wires, poison emitters

[tiny sable]

I didn't even intentionally program that in ☠️

[remote tree]

real

[dense turret]

pikmin sprouts can spawn on bridges

[remote tree]

dont worry its just a metalmin

[tiny sable]

GUYS

I FIXED THE PIKMIN LAG!!!

[remote tree]

yipee

[tiny sable]

No more stutter

The cause of the pikmin lag was because the Pikmin had a Rigidbody and a NavMeshAgent on the same object

So it had nothing to do with the navmesh agent

Bad news is I need to figure out how to have the Rigidbody not affect the NavMeshAgent. Which is harder than you might think because you can't just disable a Rigidbody like you can with a navmesh agent. So I might have to reprogram the entire throwing system

[remote tree]

what does the funni onion config do?

[tiny sable]

It replaces the onion model with this

[remote tree]

oh lol

[tiny sable]

It was a placeholder model when I first added onions because I didn't have the onion model from Pikmin 4 yet.

[remote tree]

also i think the pikmin container is uhhh, unnapealing to view, it could be smaller at least, and could use a upgraded model, no offence i couldnt do better just saying

[tiny sable]

ngl I think so too, I might update it later but rn I'm focusing on bug fixing

[remote tree]

kk

lol i have 2 pikmin types and not the normal types of pikmin types

as in

the leaf boi from biodiv

[dense turret]

some scrap becomes smaller after pikmin grab it i think

[tiny sable]

prolly because I forgot to add this line of code.

I forgot lethal company shinks items a little when it is held.

[remote tree]

when i try buy whistle it does a container or smthn from one of my other mods heres the pack code (minus imperium) 0192bcd7-0b32-e347-9a60-48476426067f

[dense turret]

would be nice if the pikmin container was a bit smaller or less obtrusive

[remote tree]

bit of a smaller thing but i think that leftclick to toss and rightclick to whistle would be better defaults

[remote tree]

just saying as in it feels mrore natural to me

[tiny sable]

Ik, just saying that I choose the number keys because they are the closest keys to WASD, and right click (or left click i forgoy) is already mappted to the scan thingy

[remote tree]

its right, i forgot abt that lol but it still feels fine when i use it, but good point

[elfin sinew]

Belated congratulations on the mod launch! Even if there seems to have been a bunch more bugs discovered upon launch. Hopefully whenever I get the time between life and other projects to work on my mod idea of adding in the Hocotate Ship Drone as some sort of scrap teleporter item or upgrade compatibility can be figured out.

[dense turret]

would it be possible to add a weight multiplier config, for how many pikmin it takes to carry each scrap?

also scrap with 40 pikmin worth on it seems to move at the same speed as one with around 10

the onion has a red radar icon for some reason

using the whistle to waken the company is faster than using the bell honestly

[dense turret]

the whistle doesn't have gravity when you open the dropship or restart a save file

[south apex]

Isn’t a bug but it was funny

I saw a Bulbmin who wasn’t inside my group and a bunker spider spawned, it went to attack it and got eaten in front of me

[tiny sable]

I also have no idea how to fix that

[tiny sable]

There is a config that does that.

[south apex]

When your in the whistle prefab, is there anything at point 0, 0, 0.

[tiny sable]

Nothing else than just the whistle

[south apex]

Dang nothing I can see wrong sadly

The whistle also doesn’t float anymore if you grab and drop it

Btw have you tried out NomNom’s patcher yet?

[tiny sable]

No not yet I'm still focusing on the bug fixes

[south apex]

Alright, not trying to rush you.

Hope you fix them!

[dense turret]

that's subtraction, not multiplier

[glad mist]

YAY

LAG IS FIXED

[bronze plover]

theres a weird bug causing onions to stay between different saves

they also retain the pikmin left inside

[tiny sable]

wdym? Like onions from one save file are showing in another?

[wind torrent]

does the new patch fix the pikmin lag?

[tiny sable]

yes

[wind torrent]

great

also is it complicated to add more onions myself?

because i would personally like to have white and purple onions

[bronze plover]

yes exactly that

had a yellow onion in one save, started a new save file and it showed up on day 1

idk but it could be a mod incompat with LCBettersaves, as that adds in extra saves above the maximum of 3

[tiny sable]

In general it shouldn't be too difficult. But, you can't give the existing type such as purple and white custom onions (yet) due to the way the mod is made.
https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/NotezyTeam/LethalMin/wiki/2680-making-custom-onions/

[tiny sable]

Yep, that's prolly the cause of the issue.

[plush pike]

Will the update be on thunderstore?

[bronze plover]

ill try if removing it will work

[tiny sable]

Yeah I just uploaded it, so give it a few for it to show online.

[plush pike]

Awesome

https://youtube.com/shorts/rsqhAFa-exo?si=Y8Nz8sOLPPMQezRL

[bronze plover]

ok it worked

[bronze plover]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/MaxWasUnavailable/LethalModDataLib/

this mod could be useful

to better make sure the onions stay tied to a save file

hope it helps 🙏

[plush pike]

What is the notice zone lag?

[tiny sable]

when a player approuches a bunch of idle pikmin at once, there is a very noticeable lag spike.

[plush pike]

Speaking of, one thing I noticed is that no matter how far from the pikmin you go, they don’t go idle. In the original game if you out run them a certain distance they go idle. In the mod even if they are very far you can still throw them. This may be a bug?

[plush pike]

Oh ok I gotcha

[tiny sable]

that was something that I was thinking of adding in. But I never did for 2 reasons. 1: Pikmin can get stuck kinda often so if there is a distance limit then sometime pikmin could get stuck forever. Or when in the mineshaft you could throw the pikmin when you're at the lower level of the mineshaft so you don't waste time waiting for pikmin to enter the elevator. 2: I got lazy

[plush pike]

Honestly fair points. I was wondering how they’d deal with mineshaft. Seems like a good choice ultimately, unless some major breakthrough with them getting stuck is discovered

[glad mist]

OR WHEN MULTIPLE PIKMIN GET HIT BY BEES

@tiny sable

Uh oh

I cant pluck them.

[tiny sable]

how did this happen

[glad mist]

Uh...

Try to pluck a pikmin

And this happens

Cant call them with whistle

[tiny sable]

Are you the host of the game?

[glad mist]

Ah there are errors.

Yes.

[tiny sable]

Oh my gosh I know what happened

Do you have pikmin scanning off?

[glad mist]

Yes...

Yep

[tiny sable]

The issue is caused because the scan node is disabled and the game attempts to get the scan node while it's disabled

[glad mist]

So...

Dont?

[tiny sable]

yep

[glad mist]

Also

Pikmin do this when the uh

Tulip snake is on your had

Head

[bronze plover]

that kinda happens when they get off of your head if you had them on prior

just make sure to use the whistle, its hella cheap

[glad mist]

I also cant

Whistle white pikmin

[tiny sable]

dismiss then whistle

that's a bug that I still need to fix btw

[glad mist]

Ah

[glad mist]

Is there gonna be a fix for this

[tiny sable]

yes just give me a minut

[glad mist]

All good

Also LAG IS GONE

[wind torrent]

i might try to add a pikmin type then

[tiny sable]

hopefully that was the only game breaking bug :D

[glad mist]

Im testing rn!

2 days amd the no lag is wonderful

[tiny sable]

So I just realized that the SnapToPos function (the function that makes it so pikmin latch on to enemies) is broken :D

[tiny sable]

Which is why that happens

[glad mist]

Is that why they were flying

Ah

[tiny sable]

prolly because of this line of code in the SnapToPos function

[glad mist]

Ah

[tiny sable]

This is what happens when you rush patches

[glad mist]

OH MY DEAR GOD

ON EXPERIMENTATION

[proud mantle]

Not a guarantee of ye ol' bird
Probably

[glad mist]

Huh.

[glad mist]

It's all good

You fixed the major issue

For me at least

Oh yeah also when you're done with the base pikmin stuff

Is scrap coming?

[proud mantle]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Pikmanfan2002/PikminScrap/

[glad mist]

This mod is very... bad

No offense.

[proud mantle]

What's wrong with it?

[glad mist]

Scrap is like Too big

The weight is all over the place

It just...

Needs a polish

[tiny sable]

My only issue with it is that every item is conductive.

[glad mist]

THATS

WHAT

SERIOUS?

[tiny sable]

I'm not sure if that has been fixed or not

[proud mantle]

Really?

[tiny sable]

When I tried it a while ago, items that shouldn't have been conductive were conductive.

[plush pike]

I just wish it had a rarity config

[plush pike]

Just means more use for yellow pikmin !

[proud mantle]

For porting over the models, it does it's job for me
Granted, looks like I'll have to do a ton of tweaking using LethalCompanyVariables and LethalQuantities

[glad mist]

Did...

You change the elevator Music?

[tiny sable]

wdym

LethalMin doesn't/shouldn't even replace any base game SFX

[wind torrent]

they changed the elevator music in v65

so yes its different but its not the mod

[glad mist]

Oh

[plush pike]

Wow so you pushed both of those updates today!?

[tiny sable]

yeah

[plush pike]

Man you got some good work ethic

Serious dandori

[glad mist]

Fr

HIS DANDORI IS INCREDIBLE...

[south apex]

Did you make a config for the speed yet? I can’t tell because I’m on phone rn

[tiny sable]

Yep!

[south apex]

YAY

Thx so much

Time to make it the actual speed in the Pikmin games

Nothing can go wrong

[wind torrent]

@tiny sable how did you get the pikmin 4 models to use in the mod? did you find them online or did you dump the game yourself to get the models

[tiny sable]

I used Yuzu to dump Pikmin 4 and Fmodel to dump the models

I also had to use Umodel/UE Viewer because Fmodel had some issues when dumping some models

[wind torrent]

thanks

because i might try adding a custom pikmin for fun

[south apex]

Idk if I should be posting these here but I sim probably make these fellas in a mod

Breadmin: Can carry 3 weight. It it’s found outside but is weaker than normal Pikmin (0.02 damage)

Dweevmin: It’s immune to fire and can carry 5 weight. It’s found inside.

Bulxmin: It can carry 5 weight, but deals high damage. It would be found inside. The Bulxmin is also immune to turrets and land mines (2 damage)

Snitchmin: It cannot be hit by any enemies on the ground but is incredibly weak. It would be found inside (0.02 damage)

[undone hearth]

Maybe at some point the speed config can be for leaf,bud,flower so people can tweak each one then trying to get leaf a decent speed and bud and flower become sonic

[bold ibex]

What ai tools were used for this project?

[tiny sable]

Phind, Github Copilot, Tabnine, Claude Opius 3.5, ChatGpt 4

[glad glen]

Any way to hide the LethalMin UI until obtaining a pikmin? Seems to work this way after death but not when initially hosting/joining

[tiny sable]

There isn't a way to do it automaticly yet, but you cam manually hide it by changing the UI scale config

[bold ibex]

thanks!

[south apex]

One problem I am having rn with the custom pikmin tutorial and NomNom's patcher is that 2 of these things say that there missing a script, idk what they're called tho

And idk whats missing

Also I can't see the speed config for some reason

[tiny sable]

It's in the "cheats" section at the bottom

[south apex]

oh thats why

thx

[tiny sable]

Could you show me the error?

[south apex]

It doesn't have an error, it just says missing script or smth.

And you can replace the script with something else

Also I just feel lazy and don't want to go back into Unity since I closed it

[tiny sable]

Did you inport the dll before you imported the package?

[south apex]

Yeah

wait

Does it need the lethalminitems thing inside of it

not JUST the dll?

[tiny sable]

wdym

[south apex]

Does it need the lethalminassets from the folder like this one?

[tiny sable]

No I don't think so.

[south apex]

I'll try and see if it fixes it

Lemme try

[tiny sable]

The issue is probably caused by the way unity handles dll's and scriptable assets is weird. So I'm going to try and add presets instead of just the scriptable assets

[south apex]

Alr, thx!

Also I think the speed multiplier only effects flowered pikmin for some reason

Adding the lethalminassets didn't do anything, it still says missing script

[tiny sable]

I just updated the repo

[south apex]

Alr I'll now try

Wdym by the ? in the inspector?

I think I have to click on something then do it but idk what

[south apex]

Its missing a script, which means the "?" is not there for me

[tiny sable]

1. Right click in the folder in unity.
2. Click: Create -> LethalMin -> PikminType, and Create -> LethalMin -> Pikmin Sound pack.

[lofty verge]

The backwards carry fractions are actually correct for Pikmin 1 and 2, but 3 and 4 (and the 1/2 switch ports) swapped it

[lofty verge]

Oh shoot I'm the one who made that mod
What treasures were conductive that shouldn't have been?

[tiny sable]

I don't remember

[lofty verge]

The first treasure added being the Doomsday Apparatus really screwed with the scaling in retrospect lol, and it was super annoying to change hold positions in LethalExpansion. Now that it's in LLL, I'm probably gonna revamp a lot of stuff

Figuring out what items should be conductive is a very funny process too because, like, tube of paint. It's made of metal I think?

[glad mist]

OH

That's great

[lofty verge]

With 201 treasures, that's a lot of... stuff to get right

[glad mist]

Tbh with you

It's a lot

I would honestly downgrade a tiny bit and add the cool treasures

[lofty verge]

Even if each is at 1 or 2 weight, it completely overtakes the scrap pool just from sheer volume

[glad mist]

Again maybe choose specific scrap? Because honestly 201 is a bit overwhelming

OR SPLIT THE MOD INTO SPECIFIC SCRAP?

[lofty verge]

But I also want the mod to have all 201 scrap because, like, that's just kinda awesome lol

Separate mods could work well

But I also think finally figuring out how to make configs could help too lol

[glad mist]

Definitely

Also one thing

I think like you should shrink some of the scrap to about half for all of them tbh

[lofty verge]

Yeah

[glad mist]

And if you need help deciding on which to be conductive I could help

[lofty verge]

Once again, the first one I added was the Doomsday Apparatus which I felt needed to be 2-handed, and from there I think it fell apart from making more treasures 2-handed

[glad mist]

I feel some of the scrap should have functions. More specifically the Main treasures

[lofty verge]

They need to be large enough to make sense to be 2-handed, but I also wanted to try and keep some of the scaling between treasures consistent. Which I failed at.

2-handed circular objects are rough

[lofty verge]

The whistle whistles, the Brute Knuckles is a shovel, the Stellar Orb is a flashlight, and the Key is a Key. Very happy with those lol

[glad mist]

You could have wrapped functionality with lethal min

[glad mist]

Also I didn't know they actually functioned

[glad mist]

You know what? It happens lol

[lofty verge]

Eh, I have a lot of personal stuff I'm working on so I don't want to spend a stupid amount of time working on the scrap mod lol

[glad mist]

You know what? That's fair

[lofty verge]

So I'm just gonna put the rest of the treasures in, redo scale and hold positions, make a more consistent price method, and figure out a way to make managing the 201 treasures easier without the use of external mods

[glad mist]

Good luck

[lofty verge]

(If you do find any bugs or other errors though feel free to let me know)

[glad mist]

Alr good to know

[bold ibex]

Clips of the pikmin are already going viral on tiktok lol

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTFVJcFGX/

[dull orchid]

Horrible

They're being murdered and you're laughing

Unbelievable

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/803149358349680650.gif?size=44&quality=lossless

[bold ibex]

Lol = lots of love

[south apex]

Are there any other steps?

[gray timber]

@tiny sable i noticed in that tiktok clip your pikmin register scrap into the ship and the icon pops up, can i ask what you call/the code for all that to work? my guy almost works, but parenting to the ship is weirdly wonky and theres no pop up on the bottom right

[tiny sable]

with the new PikminType or SoundPack selected. go up to the settings icon next to the small (?) icon in the inspector aboved the open button, click presets, and select the preset for each scriptable asset.

[south apex]

Yep! It looks fun to make a custom Pikmin type. (Obviously when I don’t got to code)

[tiny sable]

Lethal Company is kinda weird because it's zeekers never updated the names of the varibles after the scrapped elevator from the beta so the term Elevator means ship in this case, but there is also another varible that is named Dropped In Ship Room, it's just really werid. But the way the mod does it is it checks if the pikmin holding the item is in the ship, if so, then parent the item to the ship. and call the SetItemInElevator() method which triggers the pop up.

The Pikmin use the same method players use to check if they are in the ship

[gray timber]

interesting, okay, ty

whats Root?

[plush pike]

Would you be able to add a config for scrap rarities as well?

[tiny sable]

This is from the PikminItem script so Root is just the grabbable object script of the PikminItem

[gray timber]

ahhh gotcha, okay

ill figure out what im doing wrong then, i used setiteminelevator but its weird the icon never pops up, ill debug it further, might be something to do with parenting, ty though!

[drifting parcel]

Gotta love offsite media on discord blasting my fucking ears every time

[plush pike]

I agree with this as well

[south apex]

Wdym save each scriptable asset?

[wind torrent]

i feel like the pikmin storage should be a bit smaller

[tiny sable]

*select the preset for the PikminType, and then do the same for the SoundPack

[south apex]

It just says this, do I click new preset?

[tiny sable]

dang it didn't work

[south apex]

Might have to manually share the script

[tiny sable]

it should say this

[south apex]

yeah it doesn't for some reason

dunno why

[tiny sable]

I need to redo the tutorial, but for now just Ignore the example types and just create the pikmin type from the scriptable objects you created

[south apex]

alright

[proud mantle]

How about a config option that adds a small set of treasures to the moon that changes daily, from either a whole list or a specified list from a player

And also some option to disable the mod from editing the scrap pool in case a modpack dev would like to do it though an external mod

[lofty verge]

Honestly yeah that could work well
Treasures are common, uncommon or rare, and each day a certain amount of each are thrown into the pool, so you’ll see similar scrap each visit but constantly changing. That could work really well

Build up a collection of every treasure but not every treasure is polluting the field at once lol

[hexed olive]

I was wondering if making the little dudes smaller was planned or if it's a config option (mostly just curious about it, since pikmin are tiiiiny in their own game)

[south apex]

The pikmin size is a config

[hexed olive]

yipee!!! that's super cool

[south apex]

yep

Also there is a speed config but I think it only works on flowered pikmin for some reason

[hexed olive]

this mod is the bomb, been slowly looking at progress and it's so cool that it's finally out!!

[dense turret]

literally just a copy paste of the trailer...

[south apex]

Just got 51 pikmin, I'm boutta screw up the hoarding bugs

I named them all cause I'm alone and insane (olimar's life)

you think I win?

(I lost because of a Bulter and a Spider ganging up on me)

[wind torrent]

how do you guys get so many pikmin

ive gotten like 20 max

[south apex]

be olimar

its easy

or set the cheats config for max pikmin to spawn outside to max

[wind torrent]

to be honest i do die quite often

the only reason my run is still going is because i have a mod that saves my scrap when i die and another which i like a quota rollover thing

[south apex]

lol

We have so much modded enemies that we always die to the locker or shy guy

[wind torrent]

what are those

[south apex]

Modded enemies

[wind torrent]

i dont have any extra monsters or moons

[south apex]

can't really explain

[wind torrent]

ah

[dense turret]

onions! save them between moons

speaking of, how does onion spawning work? based on the config it's a percent chance for one to spawn when you land but i've seen multiple onions spawn at once

[south apex]

Its somewhat hard to get onions tho

[wind torrent]

i have all 3 onions

[wind torrent]

i got all 3 in like 2 days

[south apex]

I have red and yellow onion

[wind torrent]

the yellow and blue ones spawned in the same building

[south apex]

Same except for me it was red and yellow

[wind torrent]

i also have the pikmin storage

it is a bit big tho

[south apex]

Yeah Notes is gonna change the size one time update

or make it more appealing to look at

[wind torrent]

so i installed the wider ship and second floor mod so i have space for stuff

and i think the decorations actually do something now so yeah

[south apex]

oh uh, don't set their speed too high

For some reason idk why the others don't

[tiny sable]

Only one onion spawns in per-type. By defult, each onion has a 45% chance of spawning. This can be changed in the config. Once an onion is collected, that onion won't spawn again.

[plush pike]

Do you guys get fps drops with larger mod packs

[wind torrent]

i have like 40 mods and it started lagging a bit when i had around 30 pikmin

[south apex]

now try not breaking your ears when 60 pikmin kill something

[tiny sable]

YAY

[wind torrent]

ill probably try adding a custom pikmin type this weekend

if i do ill probably just add rock pikmin

[south apex]

Its a bit not working rn, but NoteBoxz is going to fix it

atleast with NomNom's patcher which I'm using

[wind torrent]

ah

[south apex]

as from this

[wind torrent]

only issue is if i wanna make an onion for the rock pikmin ill have to find how to get the pikmin 4 models

[south apex]

I'm tryna find Pikmin 4's sounds so I can make stuff like pikmin throw

[wind torrent]

my dad does not want me to mod the switch

[south apex]

For my breadmin

ARMY TODAY WE DEFEAT THE EYELESS DOG THAT KILLED YOUR BROTHERS

[wind torrent]

is your game lagging

[south apex]

no

[wind torrent]

i had like 30 and it started lagging

[south apex]

dandori issue

[wind torrent]

also are they t posing

some of them look like they are

[south apex]

Nah

they do

so uhh

Its hard to throw pikmin while running and I might've died

[wind torrent]

i find it funny that when they go into the onion they t pose

[south apex]

They do t pose into the onion

they felt groovy LONG LEGS

[tiny sable]

I was too lazy to properly animate them entering and exiting the onion

[wind torrent]

yeah i dont know why i typed should

i knew it happened

[south apex]

if this man is added my soul will explode

[dense turret]

pikmin can get stuck chasing locusts and manticoils if you don't have a whistle

[south apex]

https://tenor.com/view/pikmin-pikmin-4-grooving-long-legs-gif-9641257767262294034

disco

[wind torrent]

also what can you configure when making a custom pikmin type?

[south apex]

Immunity, speed, damage, etc

no immunity to gunshots tho

[wind torrent]

so nothing special really

[south apex]

and no carryable weight

its either 1 or 10

[wind torrent]

so it wouldn’t be possible to add winged pikmin that float and stuff

[tiny sable]

*yet

[south apex]

https://tenor.com/view/yippee-happy-celebration-joy-confetti-gif-25557730

[tiny sable]

You are able to add custom scripts on to the pikmin type.

[south apex]

breadmin are finding louies adress for payback. They're going to eat him back

[wind torrent]

cool

dont know how to code tho so if i wanna try and add winged pikmin ill have to learn

because i feel like winged pikmin could be useful since they could go over enemies

[south apex]

Yeah, but idk how they would work with grabbing objects

[wind torrent]

they would grab it and then go up

and then move

idk

[south apex]

I mean like with other pikmin that aren't winged pikmin

Like if a red and winged pikmin are going to carry something

how would that work

[wind torrent]

wait how does it even work in the games

does it just stay on the ground

[south apex]

lemme see a youtube vid rq

[wind torrent]

i can just go test real quick instead

[south apex]

bet

[wind torrent]

bro why am i only on day 68 on my main save

[south apex]

I'm on day 48

I'm trying to 100% it

[wind torrent]

i only have some annoying quests to do i think

but ive 100% all the areas

i went to an area to kill the enemies to transport them but i already killed all of them

[south apex]

Lol

[wind torrent]

ok yeah they just stay on the ground if theres winged pikmin and another type

[south apex]

So that'll somehow be coded

but I think Note is going to add other pikmin types

from 3 and 4

[wind torrent]

would be cool

[tiny sable]

Hey Panda what where you using for the unity project again?

[south apex]

NomNom’s patcher

[wind torrent]

when i was playing earlier i threw a purple pikmin onto some scrap so it could bring it to the entrance and it started spinning while carrying the piece of scrap

i have no idea why it happened but it was very funny

[tiny sable]

was this on the upper level of the mineshaft?

[wind torrent]

no

it was in the normal facility

[tiny sable]

crap so that issue is worse that I thought

[wind torrent]

but it was still moving towards the exit

it was just spinning at the same time

im not sure but i think it was carrying a gold bar

might have something to do with it

[proud mantle]

It doesn't seem like Pikmin can properly attack modded enemies

[dense turret]

sometimes the onion lands on a pikmin sprout and makes you unable to pluck it

[glad mist]

@tiny sable

New issue

[plush pike]

so my client was unable to whistle pikmin

[wind torrent]

i can normally pluck the ones in the onion

[south apex]

I think this is because the onion uses a specific AI node to land, and Pikmin use it too to spawn.

[dense turret]

finally got to try out lethalmin in multiplayer, it's somehow even more fun

[plush pike]

Were your clients able to whistle/interact with pikmin?

[dense turret]

yep

[tiny sable]

When I test it out the client side is able to whistle pikmin just fine

[dense turret]

there was a sizable amount (5 mb worth) of log spam though

[tiny sable]

what did it say

[dense turret]

it's all this

for miles

[tiny sable]

yeah thats an issue with the hoarder bug's AI with pikmin

[dense turret]

is [Info : Unity Log] NOISE D from whenever you use the whistle?

i ask because it spams alot but it's when we were bullying the company with whistles

[tiny sable]

Wait hold on, where/what moon where you on when the client was whistling

Was the client attempting to whistle pikmin that where like down an edge or something

nvm I'm getting the exact opposite issue

[plush pike]

So I’m thinking it must be some mod conflict because it was on experimentation and in multiple parts of the level

And plan on doing some troubleshooting tomorrow with more logging turned on

I can share profile code for now if you want

For mod list

[tiny sable]

yeah

[plush pike]

0192c157-412e-e335-5943-84f5273fda6b

right now info, warning, and i think something else is shut off for logging in the bepinex config though

[tiny sable]

Larm, did whistleing not work at all on the client side, or did it work sometimes?

[dense turret]

honestly this might be one of my favorite mods

[plush pike]

We couldn’t get their whistle to work at all but also didn’t play long

[tiny sable]

Did the Pikmin follow the client when they went up to them without the whistle?

[remote tree]

are there any custom types yet

[tulip pagoda]

for some reason the pikmin only respond to the host of the lobby

[tiny sable]

()%#@(%)@%()@#^U_)EVIJGW)(HECTPOMPRQVPO#J()EQKTE_)#)K)(ETEK_

I relesed the mod too early

[remote tree]

nah

im not having any issues apart from non-glitch issues (pls make pikmin try to not walk on landminse

[tiny sable]

yeah online play is scruewd and I can't even debug it because I only have one divice to play test the game on and for one reason or another, the game acts totaly fine when I do it on LAN mode, I can't even test the game on Online Mode because as I only have one computer to playtest this mod on.

[proud mantle]

Speaking of pathfinding, Pikmin try to path to an area that's far too high and get stuck on some custom interiors

More of a problem with the interior than the Pikmin itself though

[remote tree]

oh ok, if anything the only bugs i have enocountered is that pikmin wont pick up some small modded scrap

[proud mantle]

There is a mod that lets you launch multiple instances let me find it rq

I swear I saw it on thunderstore one day

[glad mist]

Idk wtf happened

Started online mode today

5000 loot bugs

They're on the shelves they're on the ceiling they're IN THE PITS

Idk what was happening

[tiny sable]

The thing that gets me is that many people will be very disappointed that they can't play online. All because I screwed up and releseed it too early.

[remote tree]

btw

i have a suggestion

a config/shop item that is a better whistle (better range and pluckaphone upgrades)

also also

[remote tree]

i am not even a coder and i feel you

[glad mist]

It's not too bad

[glad mist]

I'm not having any issues

I feel this is mod issues if anything

[remote tree]

say, do you know anyone if not yourself that can make orange pikmin for this, as well as the pikmin 3 types and ice pikmin (maybe even glow pikmin that only spawn at night and turn into stackable glow seeks when night comes)

[glad mist]

Uh... ATM? No... But tbh you can just rip the models from Pikmin 3

[remote tree]

i cant code them tho

[glad mist]

I ain't a coder

😭

[remote tree]

[glad mist]

I can't do numbers for shiz

[remote tree]

dang

[glad mist]

[remote tree]

also

i think its funny

that this with biodiversity gives us two pikmin

a config/shop item that is a better whistle (better range and pluckaphone upgrades)

heres the pack i made for the full pikmin experience (if its the wrong one tell me that i am stupids) 0192c211-0e65-fa6a-8718-bfc70300bf49

[edgy sparrow]

Found a similar issue where you can scan onions whike your holding them as well

[dense turret]

i had a fine time playing multiplayer though?

[glad mist]

It happens

[remote tree]

me waiting for somebodies opinions on this suggestion:

[glad mist]

It's mod issues not lethalmin

[remote tree]

lethalmon

[glad mist]

Min MIN

[tiny sable]

everyone else is saying that the client side is not working

[glad mist]

!!!

[remote tree]

man said lethalmon at first

[tiny sable]

Like 5 people told me the client cannot interact with pikmin

[glad mist]

Seems fine to me

[remote tree]

minmin?

https://tenor.com/view/super-smash-bros-ultimate-super-smash-bros-min-min-min-min-arms-herself-video-game-gif-17585099

[glad mist]

Had my friend control Pikmin just fine

[remote tree]

didnt get the chance to test it

[edgy sparrow]

Ye I also didn't have any issues with multi-player

[tiny sable]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[dense turret]

my modpack was pretty much just lethalmin and other recommended mods

yeah just lethalmin, the pikmin clock mods, navmesh in company, lethalconfig, lcmaxsoundsfix and aeioucompany

[tiny sable]

@dense turret Did you have more company installed?

[dense turret]

nope

[tiny sable]

I FIGURED IT OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Issue is caused by More Company

I'm not sure how yet, but all I know is that when More Company is installed the pikmin break on the client side

That explains why some people have been getting the glitch and some not.

[remote tree]

https://tenor.com/view/yippee-happy-yippee-creature-yippee-meme-yippee-gif-gif-1489386840712152603

[tiny sable]

The funny part is, is that the mod glitches in such a way that It looks like a feature

[remote tree]

oh? what happens

[tiny sable]

Like when a client attempts to call a pikmin, no errors are logged or anything they just entirely ignore them.

[remote tree]

interesting

[tiny sable]

To add on to that, when a client plucks a pikmin it just instantly goes into it's idle state semlessly. When it should go into it's following state

[remote tree]

im not a coder but i know that thats a very odd thing, even for a error in code

[tiny sable]

So when a client attempts to call a pikmin, an warning is logged to the consle saying that the client doesn't have a leader manager. Meaning that the client's leader managers are not being initalized properly when more company is installed.

The leader manager is what allows pikmin to follow players so without it pikmin are entirely useless

[remote tree]

huh

i would love to help.. but the problem is... i have absolutely no clue how any of this works

[tiny sable]

no worries

most of the time these issues can be solved with just a cupple lines of code

[remote tree]

kk

[south apex]

I've got all onions, time to kill the maneater

also my lags HARD whenever commanding 76 pikmin into an onion at once

[tiny sable]

I'm fixing that as well

[south apex]

epic

Oh 5 pikmin died and 4 got left behind

Also where does the onion land on the company

I thought it could

[tiny sable]

You need to install NavMeshInCompany for that to work https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Kittenji/NavMeshInCompany/

[south apex]

ah

Well I have 100 pikmin

I am now Olimar

Do the pikmin you sprout out of the ground when you have 100 pikmin go to the onion or just dissapear?

[tiny sable]

they go to the onion if they have one

[south apex]

oh yay

more army

and more backup

[tiny sable]

same with pikmin that spawn indoors

[dense turret]

i think i've realized why my strategy of "throw all my pikmin at the thumper and hope it dies before i do" doesn't work. i'm throwing them at the front of it which also has its mouth. i think that's how it worked in pikmin 1 when i played it a while ago so that's probably how it works here

[south apex]

https://tenor.com/view/pikmin-army-charge-pikmin-3-gif-16956491400437697322

this is what that thumper sees

So uh

if you have a lot of pikmin, they have a hard time coming down the ladder

[tiny sable]

try throwing them down

[south apex]

I did

There were like 60 up there

[wind torrent]

i want to try and add rock pikmin but i do not code either

[south apex]

There is a thing that doesn't allow them to latch onto enemies

Also they can be immune to crushing

[wind torrent]

so rock pikmin would be simple

[south apex]

Yeah

[wind torrent]

winged pikmin would be more complicated

[south apex]

It would invole actual coding

for winged

[wind torrent]

i would add an onion for rock pikmin but i would need to get the onion model from pikmin 4

[south apex]

Or just have a gray onion texture

If you want me to try making rock pikmin I could

but I think Note said he was going to make other types from 3 and 4 in later updates

[dense turret]

i should make evil upside down red pikmin that heal enemies

[plush pike]

They seemed to ignore the client entirely

[wind torrent]

you could do it but i would stil’ try myself

[wind torrent]

or add puffmin thatll attack the player

[tiny sable]

Okay so this issue is caused due to the fact that More Company DISABLES THE PLAYER CONTROLLERS which prevents them from full initalizeing their leader manager objects

[wind torrent]

like in pikmin 1

[dense turret]

that'd require coding, out of my skill level

would be a good idea though

[plush pike]

What’s your profile code? Maybe I can use process if elimination

[tiny sable]

It's more company that causes the issue

[dense turret]

the issue has already been found!

[south apex]

Alr you can just ask me if your having trouble

[plush pike]

Oh hell yeah! Sorry I was still reading lol. That’s awesome the culprit is found

Weird that more company disables the player controller? Will it be possible to work without that?

[tiny sable]

I'm working on a fix for it rn.

I just need to initalize the leader manager when the player controller is enabled aswell as when it starts

[plush pike]

Awesome

6 captains here we come lol

[tulip pagoda]

Happy birthday lethal!

[south apex]

Thinking of coding in Groovy Long Legs but yet I don’t know how to code ANYTHING

https://tenor.com/view/pikmin-pikmin-4-grooving-long-legs-gif-9641257767262294034

Would be cool to have in the game

Fun fact: Pikmin can kick the soccer ball

But they can’t carry it

[tiny sable]

Reduced Onion Lag

[dense turret]

what do the values in the bottom right mean? i thought it meant squad / field / overall but that doesn't seem to line up

[tiny sable]

You have it right, the overall count includes pikmin that are in the onion aswell

[wind torrent]

im gonna be honest i have no idea what im doing

i cant even install the unity template thing

[tiny sable]

I'm gonna make a tutorial vid

[dense turret]

taking pikmin out of the onion doesn't affect what should be the field counter though if i'm right

[tiny sable]

the field counter is the one in the middle. You can see it jump from 6 to 57 when I take the pikmin out of the onion

[wind torrent]

i think i did it

maybe

not

i dont know

i think his bones are in the wrong direction

[wind torrent]

i dont think hes ok

[tiny sable]

you might have to flip the normals

[wind torrent]

ill find out how to do that

ok that did nothing

i mightve done it wrong

he is no longer transparent but the textures look wrong

[blazing tusk]

you can change it yourself in LLL and other mods

me and my friends love the pikmin scrap mod

and the only problems we've had with it were six months ago when i didn't know how to put it on moons that i wanted

[plush pike]

Awesome I’ll test this today!

[wind torrent]

it says disable natual spawning instead of natural

[tiny sable]

typo

[wind torrent]

also i can still scan the whistle while its in my hand

[tiny sable]

crap

[plush pike]

I haven’t tried the new update yet, but I believe that was happening with the onion as well if you didn’t already know

[tiny sable]

Type Tutorial:https://youtu.be/T5ViWXOWY3Q

It's unlisted because it's kind a rushed and I want to make a better version, but this will do for now.

[wind torrent]

yay

ill still have to try and fix the rock pikmins textures

[edgy sparrow]

BTW will there be compatibility for controller in the future?

[tiny sable]

there techicly is already controller support, but you have to manually input the buttom mappings. I will add in input utils support later tho.

for example you could set "<XInputController>/buttonEast" for the B button on an Xbox controller in the configs

[plush pike]

so there was one error on the client so far but we havent done a level yet. this is just on starting a new save. but i still have the multiple saves mod active. maybe just that?

[tiny sable]

Are you using BetterSaves

Also don't worry about "[Error : Unity Log] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
Stack trace:
LethalMin.DebugMenu.Update () (at ./LethalMin/DebugMenu.cs:29)"

[plush pike]

yeah better saves is the one

[tiny sable]

LethalMin isn't compatible with that mod yet

so the onion saves might bug out

[plush pike]

ok so im going to try disabling that because the client froze when we tried to land

[glad mist]

@tiny sable

I'm gonna get started on some Pikmin related moons

[south apex]

Did you make it work with NomNom’s patcher?

[tiny sable]

No I couldne't figure it out

[south apex]

Dang I guess I’ll download the Lethal Company Unity thingy

Breadmin.

https://tenor.com/view/louie-pikmin-pikmin-3-louie-food-louie-tied-up-louie-jump-gif-4621056113604856280

[glad mist]

When I make this Pikmin map

[plush pike]

so whistle is working and we are able to land! just curious if this "reset path" has anything to do with lethal min. Is was spamming my logs on offense

[glad mist]

Do y'all want like

Enemy skit kit compat to replace designs

Loot bug becomes breadbug...

[tiny sable]

Yeah It's LethalMin. I forgot to fix that issue in V0.1.5

[glad mist]

Is the uh red locust bees issue lethalmin related?

[tiny sable]

I'm not sure

[glad mist]

Right here

[glad mist]

Yeah

[remote tree]

Speaking of issues with BEES i once took off after having yellows take it to the ship qnd the bees wouldnt go back to the nest even after i whistled the piks odd (and the bees stayed between the moons)

[tiny sable]

Okay I'll look into that

[glad mist]

Oh

YEAH

That's when the log gets SPAMMED WITH

[glad mist]

Ishivemissing error

Since it can't find the hive

[south apex]

What happens if you set the Pikmin size to 2

Will they implode

[analog finch]

I've been having a problem where the ship gets stuck landing? where the door won't open and it won't fully land cause furniture can't be moved but it is stull on moon. Trying to find what I assume is the confliction

[glad mist]

They get huge

[glad mist]

I don't think it's lethalmin

[analog finch]

I don't know

[glad mist]

I love this sticker

But yeah send logs

[analog finch]

lol, I get that

logs that is. I haven't had any problems with any of the other mods is the thing

[glad mist]

That's news to me

I assume you have 2 story ship?

[analog finch]

yeah

[glad mist]

New issue

[analog finch]

has that been an issue before?

[remote tree]

It works fine with me

[remote tree]

And i have the 3 stories on And have the container on le wall

[glad mist]

Yeah I think it's just one little mod not playing nice with lethalmin

[plush pike]

another small thing i noticed is that the animation for holding the flashlight breaks when you interact with the onion or pluck a pikmin

[remote tree]

I have a wide variety of mods but it works fine for me

[remote tree]

Applies for whistle aswell

[tiny sable]

That's an issue I don't know how to fix aswell

actually I might have an idea

[remote tree]

Also did you see my “better whistle” idea?

[analog finch]

nevermind, gotta figure it out. Might be poltergeist messing up

[glad mist]

Really? Huh

[tiny sable]

yeah

[remote tree]

But was it good?

[tiny sable]

yeah

[remote tree]

[remote tree]

If your adding it, cant wait

[south apex]

Turns out if you have a yellow pikmin which is flowered and it picks up a circuit bees nest, the yellow pikmin moves too fast for the bees to catch up and chase it, resulting in it killing HALF of my pikmin

thanks yellow pikmin

[analog finch]

the issue was apparently weatherregistry

btw, are there any custom interiors that work with this mod?

[tiny sable]

all custom interiors should work

unless it does something special like the elevator in piggy's LC office.

[analog finch]

ok, cause I had problems with tomb and egypt

liminal

[wind torrent]

i thought the bees didnt kill pikmin

[south apex]

I set the config to yes

I must be Olimar

[wind torrent]

ah

[south apex]

suffer

I might make the Jester eat like 20 pikmin at a time

he looks like a guy who wants to feast on them

I'm going to see if the mod works with Tiny Company (or even if Tiny Company works since it hasn't been updated in 6 months)

[remote tree]

The true pickled man experience

[wind torrent]

whats tiny company

[south apex]

it makes you tiny

be olimar

[remote tree]

Little company but always tiny

[wind torrent]

how long does it take you to get to the building if youre tiny

[remote tree]

https://tenor.com/view/fiddlebert-fiddlebert-laughing-laughing-fiddlebert-head-pikmin-gif-2840476497935116537

[south apex]

you sprint the same speed but your jump is reduced

[wind torrent]

ah

[south apex]

I have found these creatures that are like Pik Pik carrots I will name them pikmin

[wind torrent]

now that there’s a tutorial for custom pikmin i just need to figure out how to make the rock pikmins texture to work to add it in

because it looked like this

[remote tree]

Could you do orange aswell

[wind torrent]

i managed to make it not transparent but the eyes are weird

[wind torrent]

what would orange pikmin do

[remote tree]

Maybe winged and ice even (bulbear would be easy)

[remote tree]

Same as pikmin 251

But in lethal it would be the LANDMINE SCOUT

[wind torrent]

i have not played pikmin 251

[remote tree]

It immune to bomb and crush

I think crush might have forgor

But i certain explosion immunity

[wind torrent]

it might be easy to make

[remote tree]

And bulbearmin i think is a purple pikmin bulbmin

[wind torrent]

winged would be hard because i would need to make extra code so they fly

[remote tree]

But its model is bulbear with leaf

[remote tree]

Manticoil/old bird/tulip snake

[wind torrent]

i mean when carrying objects

[remote tree]

Fair

Also

[wind torrent]

they would need to do the same movement but above the ground

and not do it if theres other pikmin carrying the same object

[remote tree]

Ice pikmin would be useful for freezing floods (might need a buff with the amount needed)

[remote tree]

Fair, maybe leave it second to last (last being glow since you would if doing it need to add the lumiknols and starbits and turning into stackable glowseeds when taking off/in the light)

[wind torrent]

even if i wanted to add ice pikmin getting the model would be hard

[remote tree]

Fair

Even p-rip didnt get it to my knowledge

[wind torrent]

i got the rock pikmin model the the models resource for pikmin 3 but theres basically nothing for pikmin 4

[remote tree]

Yeah, maybe ask the developer of p-wip where they got oatchi from and use that source

P-wip from roblox lost media

[wind torrent]

well note got the onion models from 4

[remote tree]

Yea

[wind torrent]

and the pikmin models used are from 4 too i think

[remote tree]

Yeah

I wonder if puffmin (and glow but thats not the main ask) would even be possible

Puffmin would be made my spore lizards/biodiversities prototox

[wind torrent]

glow pikmin should only work inside and past like 6 or 8 pm

[remote tree]

Mmhm, but how would the glow seeds work

Especially taking off and put in inventory

Would they go into the container thing or

[wind torrent]

maybe a lumiknol can spawn randomly on every map

which could just be like the onion and storage

[remote tree]

Yea

Ok so

Listing em

[wind torrent]

but ill start with getting rock pikmin to work

even if it does not have a texture thats fine

[analog finch]

how much damage do the pikmin do btw?

[tiny sable]

around 0.01 for any other type and 0.05 for reds

[plush pike]

Weird I have weather registry and the doors opened

[remote tree]

The addon mod pikmin for lethalmin ideas:
glow: lumiknoll randomly spawns on each map and acts like the onion but the glows can only come out from between 6 and 8pm (or eclipse)
Wing: probably flies directly to the ship but rises and lowers to go over obstacles
Orange: doesnt die to explosions
Bulbear: bulbmin but purple pikmin strength
Ice: freezes water and puddles with enough of them (also stops floods from rising until onfrozen, but careful as the floods will quickly rise to the right place when unfrozen)

[analog finch]

is there a config to raise it, that seems really low

[remote tree]

Make ourples do 0.1

[tiny sable]

Yeah there is a damage multipler in the "cheats" section of the config

[remote tree]

Dont raise it man

Pikmin are meant for many at once

[analog finch]

I honestly just want like .05-.1

[remote tree]

Use all reds then

[analog finch]

maybe it is better with the onion, but I haven't found any yet

that is part of it

[remote tree]

Oh and holding throw on glows will cause a glowmob

[tiny sable]

I didn't know this until I watched quote's stream, but there is a bug where you can still keep the onions after getting 'fired'.

[remote tree]

Keep it

The onions follow the ship

The ship doesnt get sucked out of the ship

[vivid spear]

Weird that more company disables the player controller?
Its for performance, not disabling inactive ones causes decreased FPS

[tiny sable]

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, okay i see

I just thought that was odd since vanilla doesn't disable the player controllers ever

[vivid spear]

yeah its not massively noticeable with 4 players

but with like 50 its very noticeable 🤣

[tiny sable]

yeah XD

So the whistle scan node issue occurs because I'm an idiot and used || instead of &&

[plush pike]

Case closed lol

[brittle creek]

I'm adding the picklemin

[wind torrent]

i am going to have to dump pikmin 3 and get the audio files for the rock pikmin because i can not find them online

yay

[tiny sable]

Fun Fact, Pikmin 251 was my first time ever playing Pikmin 2

Until then I had only played Pikmin 3

[tiny sable]

I figured out how to dump orange pikmin from 251

[remote tree]

no way

you adding me

(in another server im in theres a few channels for rp, pikmin making my self insert are called pickle min)

[plush pike]

251 is great. Pikmin 2 in general is still my favorite

[remote tree]

this mod makes lethal enjoyable solo to a degree (for me, some others might enjoy it anyway/ still not enjoy it with this)

[south apex]

mmm

I wish the setup for the pikmin tutorial didn't take so long

[glad mist]

Pikmin 269

[remote tree]

🅱️ikmin 269*

[glad mist]

YOU RIGHT

The DX edition released recently right

[remote tree]

idk that part

[glad mist]

@tiny sable

Oh yeah btw if a Pikmin spawns on quicksand

The game loses it and keeps saying that an enemy cannot be despawned

[remote tree]

odd

i had a pikmin spawn on quicksand

nothing seemed to happen for me

[tiny sable]

could you show the console log

[glad mist]

No I mean in the debug

I got them

@tiny sable

IDK

WHAT IS HAPPENING

BUT THIS LOG IS FUCKED

[tiny sable]

that doesnt look so bad

[glad mist]

There's locker errors

Diversity errors

[glad mist]

Scroll down

[remote tree]

btw note, u found what causes the pikmin to not pick up small modded scrap

[glad mist]

Idk what biodiversity is doing

[tiny sable]

ohhhhh nooooo

[glad mist]

I KNOW RIGHT

Never have seen these errors

Like dear god

[tiny sable]

the odd part is there is seemingly no lethal min errors

[remote tree]

note?

[glad mist]

Life is good

[glad mist]

That's

Seems like a mod issue

Lethalmin works fine for me

[tiny sable]

I'm not sure, could you clairfiy more? Like what do the pikmin do when they fail to pick up small modded scrap

[remote tree]

they just dont try, they flat out act as if it doesnt exist

im playing sola aswell

[tiny sable]

like they don't play the notice sound, they don't move to it, nothin?

[remote tree]

nothing

[glad mist]

Send logs

[tiny sable]

what kind of modded scrap are they attempting to pick up.

[remote tree]

will next time i can but it basically does nothing at all

[glad mist]

Ok so from my logs. I assume it's biodiversity, Locker combined

[remote tree]

the elemental stone thingies i forgot the mod name lemme look

[glad mist]

From

Uh

RuneScape?

[remote tree]

ye,

[glad mist]

That's weird

It's made with lethal level loader

Should be fine