#Biodiversity - Expanding Lethal Company's flora and fauna.

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stable pumice
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job great doing a its

hidden pollen
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it's doing a great job

wicked sable
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its doing

void willow
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a great job

pastel patio
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great great job

stoic vortex
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job

zinc swan
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its

inland cloak
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Great

crude turret
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only

tropic ingot
soft raft
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pretty sure thats a woman

sacred delta
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pretty sure most plants have both genders.

soft raft
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good thing she aint most plants

vestal plume
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Aloes are all male actually

soft raft
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and redwood giant is yoda's sister

tropic ingot
inland cloak
sacred delta
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What’s the obsession with giving plants genders

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Better yet why do they have mouths, eyes, and legs

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And arms

soft raft
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because

tropic ingot
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The worms:

vestal plume
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those who worms

last elm
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0194ec41-5f0e-9689-50c6-a8b970d0720e

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any of my mods stand out as a conflict?

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aloe is broke in its 3rd phase for me

vestal plume
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Oh I can check in a bit

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what's broken about it?

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and which do you mean by third

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healing?

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it has wander, stalk, heal, chase and kill

lavish lava
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idk about conflicts but if you mean that the aloe picks you up, nurses you "forever" til you break out, then chases you and keeps it going like that endlessly, its happened to me

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happened with shrimp on and i went to check if it was in your pack since it was in mine and it broke a lot of stuff

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but you dont have it

vestal plume
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The aloe never lets you go by itself

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you have to break out

lavish lava
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oh but itd keep chasing after me once i got out forever, about 13 times til i died to something else

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is that part normal?

vestal plume
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Yes, you have to leave the interior for it to stop chasing

lavish lava
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ooooh

vestal plume
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sorry if that's not super communicated heheh

lavish lava
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i was completely under the impression that that wasnt intentional tbh

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i saw the configs got a lot in it, is there any way to make it a bit more forgiving in that regard?

vestal plume
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there'll be a speed config for all phrases next release though

lavish lava
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sounds good

vestal plume
lavish lava
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is there any downtime between escapingits grasp and it chasing you again? i forgot

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a way to lengthen that in the config, if its not there already, would be nice

vestal plume
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well it's moreso that the aloe can't grab you for about 2 seconds

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not i-frames

lavish lava
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i see

vestal plume
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out of fear of cluttering the config I might not, every phase will have a speed and acceleration config and there's not only that but the already present configs + some new misc ones like the aloe dealing damage instead of healing

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but I'll have to see if I can organize it a bit better

vestal plume
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which helps communicate that part of the enemy better

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iirc I sent it here at some point

neon salmon
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Is there a list of all compatible moons for Ogopogo?

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Since I know that the one in the config is outdated

vestal plume
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lemme send you all of them

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||Vow:10,March:55,Adamance:35,Submersion:12,Seichi:40,Gorgonzola:5,Phaedra:22,Aquatis:0,Cesspool:0,Gloom:0,Bozoros:15,Monarch:5,Oldred:69,Atlantica:52,Polarus:33,Acidir:16,Alcatras:57,Cubatres:8,Filitrios:21,Brutality:20||

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all of these are compatible

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the ones w 0 weight are there just so people see that ogopogo CAN work there

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it just has 0 weight because it sucks to have him there layout-wise lol

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wahooo

neon salmon
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Thanks

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Do you have an updated list for the other creatures too?

inland cloak
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the new enemies are the scrongler and the bootler

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(I have insider knowledge)

soft raft
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Bad enemies

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Next question

inland cloak
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when will you gacobj?

soft raft
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When you finish modelling and texturing our next 200 / 100 moons

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And 20 enemies

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50 items

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3 interiors

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Interiors are hard 😔

inland cloak
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bad

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next question

vestal plume
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but I can send you them if you want

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not like they're incompatible with any moons lol

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[ ALOE ]

Experimentation:28,Assurance:75,Offense:65,March:55,Artifice:95,Aquatis:18,Integrity:21,Vertigo:36,Solace:12,Solarius:10,Phuket:20,Sierra:40,Fray:45,Fission-C:5,Atlantica:5,Etern:12,Gloom:17,Junic:31,Polarus:13,Seichi:14,USCVortex:8,Hydro:20,Arcadia:40,Olympus:4,Arelion:7,Modded:2,Phaedra:50,Pelagia:18

[ OGOPOGO ]

Vow:10,March:55,Adamance:35,Submersion:12,Seichi:40,Gorgonzola:5,Phaedra:22,Polarus:0,Aquatis:0,Cesspool:0,Gloom:0,Bozoros:15,Monarch:5,Oldred:69,Atlantica:52,Polarus:33,Acidir:16,||Alcatras:57,Cubatres:8,Filitrios:21||,Brutality:20

[ PROTOTAX ]

Experimentation:80,Adamance:8,March:45,Artifice:95,Solace:80,Fray:32,Seichi:16,Olympus:15,Arelion:6,Hydro:38,Collateral:8,Corrosion:5,Icebound:20,USC Vortex:8,Mycorditum:34,Phaedra:40,Pelagia:40

[ LEAF BOY ]

Vow:100,Adamance:15,Experimentation:0,Assurance:85,Offense:30,Artifice:0,Rend:0,Dine:0,Titan:0,Seichi:28,Olympus:1,Arelion:6,Fray:300,Vertigo:12,Integrity:25,Collateral:10,Hydro:38,USC Vortex:12,Phaedra:20

neon salmon
crystal cliff
vestal plume
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oh

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eh too late

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people know about it anyway idk why I panicked :3

last elm
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it did this thing where it just slid in one direction unabled to kill

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bep kinda said it had no target to target

vestal plume
crystal cliff
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Guys! I just thought of a cool enemy in a dream!

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What if

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There was a soldier

soft raft
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you'll never be dalice

crystal cliff
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But wax

sacred delta
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That’s too far fetched

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What about a giant made of cactus?

inland cloak
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Let it go

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Youll never be dalice

vestal plume
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who is dalice

inland cloak
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Dalice

thorn scroll
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dallas

bitter flare
inland cloak
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smash greed

bitter flare
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HUH

compact creek
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one cannot comprehend

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dalice

neon panther
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Still waiting for the Update

inland cloak
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heat death of the universe it is

neon panther
vestal plume
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I didn't mean I would release a beta publically I meant i'd give it to you so you could check if the issue was fixed LOL

neon panther
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I assumed you would release, I didn't intend to test a beta

vestal plume
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you're good, I could've explained myself better lol

atomic shuttleBOT
queen acorn
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evil pawsy would be

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bark

tropic ingot
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Robyn, make this a thing

crystal cliff
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Cats VS dogs. A tale as old as time

forest prawn
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aloes who know

tropic ingot
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Question

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If you allow allow aloes to spawn outside via CentralConfig/LethalLevelLoader, and they teleported back inside

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On Wither, this girl should be outside in the daytime roster, not inside. If they do get teleported, please remove it

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It does not need to be there

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  • it breaks them more than anything
tropic ingot
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Yeah, they literally just

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don't work in this state

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Idk why this is even a feature

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☠️

frozen mist
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Just don't make them an outdoor spawn

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lol

tropic ingot
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No, that is not a solution. They shouldn't have this to begin with; it helps nobody.

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They work nicely as an ambient daytime entity.

frozen mist
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They're not designed to be outdoors though and Biodiversity has not been updated in a while

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So for now until it updates

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it is your Solution.

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Like I can understand when you want them to work a certain way it's frustrating but they're an indoor enemy and they're likely coded in a way that SAIFix doesn't cover because they're a modded enemy

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Are they set to naturally spawn outdoors on Wither?

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If you're using Starlancer Enemy Escape to have them go in and out I believe SEE has a few things it fixed with Brackens that had to be accounted for and the Aloe prolly isn't covered

tropic ingot
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They have traversed the outdoors via StarlancerEnemyEscape just fine, so I see no reason for them to be gatekept.

frozen mist
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Spiders do too

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Some enemies just break when going out then back in

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No idea why

tropic ingot
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Bunker spiders have worked for me outside.

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shrug

frozen mist
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No no

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they bug out after they go outside then back inside

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I have a whole clip of it

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lol

tropic ingot
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Oh, seems like an issue more with StarlancerEnemyEscape. Just something they didn't patch.

frozen mist
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I would just drop EnemyEscape personally til Starlancer gets around to updating it

frozen mist
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Hard to say

tropic ingot
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They won't be able to go back in, thus no ability to get broken.

frozen mist
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If you're adding her to the outdoor spawn pool then StarlancerAIFix should make her work just fine

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EnemyEscape is kind of unnecessary

tropic ingot
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Yes, it does, but the problem here I'm saying is that she gets teleported back indoors, which doesn't even do a good job at it mind you. It breaks her AI and spams errors in the console.

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I don't use StarlancerEnemyEscape rn anyways, so irrelevant.

frozen mist
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Hm

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It's probably hard coded for her to take you somewhere indoors for the healing mechanic

tropic ingot
tropic ingot
frozen mist
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Then idk why she would teleport back inside if you're not using EnemyEscape. If she works the same way as Brackens that wouldn't happen

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Brackens when outside never teleport indoors

daring steppe
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It's intentional

tropic ingot
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I think we both know that already, lol.

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Monty's mentioned it before, though hasn't given a reason to why.

daring steppe
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"Then idk why she would teleport back inside if you're not using EnemyEscape." idk what this means then

tropic ingot
daring steppe
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You were there when he said that it's because her AI broke when she was outside, even with StarlancerAIFix in their tests ✊😔

tropic ingot
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I forgor, but still, it shouldn't be there. If she walks, that's be good enough for me, lol.

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It's the user's own problem if they want to deal with broken entities.

frozen mist
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Some enemies just break if they go outside, not just the Aloe

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You kinda need to learn to just accept if it breaks to leave it alone tbh

tropic ingot
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Yeah, that would be my own problem then, not them.

frozen mist
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Stuff like this will happen when you mess with the game as extensively as you do

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lol

tropic ingot
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I know exactly what bullshit I'm getting into by being this invasive with mods.

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Bullshit as in it's not the mod creator's fault btw, just to clarify.

tropic ingot
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Lockers.

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Some fucking how, they work just fine out there.

daring steppe
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so funny seeing them slide at you from miles away

tropic ingot
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Literal homing missile 😭

frozen mist
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That's why when they do get stuck on rare occasion like in Mineshaft sometimes

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They complain about Navmesh

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As long as it has active Navmesh it works

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Lmao

tropic ingot
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I suppose it isn't exactly hard to wrap your head around now that I'm thinking about it.

frozen mist
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Outdoor Lockers are genuinely terrifying cus there's no walls or anything to stop them

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so if you're far and trigger one it can legit fucking Zoom

tropic ingot
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I put 'em on the darkest moon in my modpack for extra horror: Volition.

frozen mist
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Volition isn't even scary though

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lol

daring steppe
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There's darker

frozen mist
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lol

daring steppe
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I was thinking Lurkin

frozen mist
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True

tropic ingot
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Like, not shaking in your boots creepy, but it still unnerves me every time I hear that rumble near fire.

frozen mist
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Eh DistinctMoonVariety is just okay to me, I like the unique scraps it adds but none of them go too far to be extra special and the most iconic moon is Detritus

tropic ingot
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I don't like Detritus mainly because of Rusty. Yes, I'm weird like that, which is why I never asked Distinct to an option to remove them, because that would be fucking stupid.

frozen mist
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Like I like them don't get me wrong, but they try too much to be vanilla additions where as I prefer Vanilla+ additions like Wesley's Moons, Journeys has shifted the moons I like as a whole lol

tropic ingot
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Every other Distinct moon are great, though. Them and Wither are the only custom moons in my modpack.

frozen mist
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Wither being 60mb kills me but I plan to check it out

tropic ingot
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I have 752 gigs available, so it's not a big deal to me, especially as a moon as detailed as it is.

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You should see Poppy Playtime. Thirty. Fucking. Gigs.

frozen mist
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Honestly I really liked PowerFull's moons tbh, they're all Cruiser moons but they're very good quality

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I checked those all out right before Wesley's update dropped and enjoyed them quite a bit

frozen mist
tropic ingot
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110 Assurance bottles ahh weights

velvet notch
frozen mist
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;o

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#dev-moons message

velvet notch
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yep, made a lot of custom LOD models, almost every texture is 512 or smaller, and so on. I'm probably not perfect but I definitely explored all those avenues. just too many different assets overall, the scene data alone (no actual assets) is like 37 MB (uncompressed). suppose my ambitions got the better of me

solid flax
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That adds another 10~ish mb to it you want it as none cuz its not needed

velvet notch
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I made sure to purge all the vanilla references yeah, just looots of small custom files, almost everything is <1MB

solid flax
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Do you have a pic of your bundlesizes? Btw 37mb seems fine I think moons under 40mb are already well optimized in general tho if they are basic moons without too much custom shiz they should be in the range of 15mb (the lowest you can go for is about 8mb)

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Ive seen you have some custom code for Wither tho, havent really looked into it too much yet just went thru it quickly

velvet notch
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37mb is just for the scene itself, whole scene bundle is 150 MB, luckily compresses down to <60MB

solid flax
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How big is withermoon.lethalbundle once its built?

velvet notch
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scene and moon bundles respectively

solid flax
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That seems decent

velvet notch
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yaw, I'm decently happy with it, didn't want to have to compromise anymore with my already very decimated models and compressed textures

solid flax
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55 is a bit much but 4.4 looks about right - im also nitpicking tho you should be fine

velvet notch
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I think before I started optimizing anything it was like >1 GB uncompressed 🥴

solid flax
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Yeah you want quality over filesize but 55mb tells me you still have some unused vanilla bs or something you mightve missed idk

velvet notch
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it's possible, but I think it's just that I use a lot of different materials. if I was able to reference vanilla textures etc. without bundling them would save a looot of space, not possible for copyright reasons tho iirc

solid flax
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Can you show your assetbuilder for the scene with sorting thru the biggest sizes?

limpid steppe
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zeekerrs does not care

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its not going to come up

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just don't do stuff in bad faith

velvet notch
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I just remember seeing somewhere a while back that auto bundling vanilla assets would be pushing the line legally or somethin, might be misremembering

limpid steppe
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we chilling

velvet notch
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well if there is a way to use something like a vanilla mat, texture png, model, etc. without including it in my bundle that would be awesome (something like blank references, but for more than just prefabs and scriptable objects)

limpid steppe
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we cant do that for other reasons, i probably should have phrased that differently

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but copyright not the issue

velvet notch
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ye, I gotchu

velvet notch
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I actually made my own compressed versions of some of the vanilla assets I used since some were a bit insane, probably couldve done more of that

solid flax
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This is actually something I wanted to ask cuz I remember @buoyant walrus you talked about this occlusionculling thing. Does it matter if we have it generate on the moons in the end or just adds ~7mb for no reason if we do so? I always forget to ask, I know many dont bother with it and the rest of us are unsure if it works at all?

velvet notch
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oh yeah I just baked that cuz I assumed it was better that way, idk much about occlusion culling but that'd be cool file size save

solid flax
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I think lethalcompany has its on occlusion culling or something but Im unsure. Ionno

solid flax
vestal plume
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if you spawn it outside and then it goes back in it just breaks

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if the tp'ing back in is part of biodiversity I don't know though

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I don't remember suggesting that safeguard at any point of development but I could've

vestal plume
vestal plume
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I've just said that Aloes break outside that's p much it

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though I recalled them not even having AI

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in any case it's weird that you encounter this bug now, right? haven't you been using Aloes outside for a while now?

vestal plume
vestal plume
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Can't really blame you but fixing this won't be a priority (them fully functioning outside, I'll look into the teleportation w/ Figo)

vestal plume
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I added 0 weight to some.moons because Ogopogo could function there but it wouldn't work that wel layout wise

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there's a bunch of 0s there for that reason

sand vortex
# tropic ingot I thought you meant it as like a permanent solution, sorry. Though, they still h...

oke so the reason I added that safeguard (side note: ||the big error spams are not intentional 💀, ill fix it/remove the safeguard||) is because yes, whilst technically the aloe will be able to path around n shiz outside perfectly fine, she'd never actually be able to get anywhere near anyone (cuz big ass open spaces). This would probably cause people to complain/say that the aloe is broken when she goes outside, even though shes not meant to be outside in the first place.

I think i'll just remove the safeguard (cuz it doesnt even work anyway lmao), but still include a warning log message if the aloe goes outside (it will only log once per session, not spam it). If you want I can also add a config option that turns the aloe into an ambient enemy (as in she will just roam around and not bother anyone)?

vestal plume
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I mean like

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You could just do that by setting the health threshold to an invalid number, no?

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like 101 health

sand vortex
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nah cuz if she gets stunned or hit then shed go into angry mode

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i havent seen it with my own eyes, but shes also programmed to hit other enemies if they harm her

buoyant walrus
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black mesa moon isn't set up in a way that it can use occlusion culling, so I don't really have a good way to look into it yet

buoyant walrus
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there is no occlusion culling if that doesn't work

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if you want to remove occlusion culling, you should make one asset bundle with the baked occlusion culling and another with the only change being that you have removed that information, then reboot your computer and launch only lethal company, compare before and after in the same location with no other variables changed

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the difference could be insignificant but it could be very helpful to have a final answer to this question, especially if whatever scene you're talking about is heavy on the GPU

vestal plume
solid flax
buoyant walrus
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it's used at bake time, it appears

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does that encompass the playable area of that scene?

solid flax
buoyant walrus
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and you re-bake at that point as well?

solid flax
buoyant walrus
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that's not an option

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unity doesn't support that

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if it did, CullFactory would be a single function call

solid flax
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fair nuff

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well Occlusion Culling and OcclusionArea are differnt things tho in unity

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lets move this talk to dev-moons cuz we are hogging the wrong thread peepoGiggles

soft raft
# frozen mist They use Navmesh Agents to move is why lol

I wish you wouldn't use buzz words randomly, almost all enemies that move have a navmesh agent, that's not the big solution to having an enemy that works moving around.

The reason is because the lockers behaviour is so simple, you do an action, it finds you, and moves to you.
That's it.
The aloe has a lot of behaviour that I wouldn't be surprised if it broke a million times trying to do a bunch of pathing related things inside and outside when it shouldn't be splitting it's behaviour and territory stuff between the two sections of the game.

vestal plume
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Ye

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Though removing that safeguard would prolly be for the best

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Also even though it doesn't quite matter the Aloe wouldn't live for long outside in broad daylight due to their super sensitive skin

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Maybe on Acidir though

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or moons with darker days

graceful sedge
vestal plume
soft raft
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You're not wesley, no lore for you

inland cloak
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Also you lost the game

crystal cliff
inland cloak
soft raft
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I dont cRe

vestal plume
elfin delta
tropic ingot
tropic ingot
vestal plume
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I know what sapient means but I didn't know it implied it being sapient

tropic ingot
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That's how I interpreted it. Old birds don't just go rogue like that.

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It's either that, or Rusty is being controlled by a third party.

compact creek
hard helm
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I am very picky about appearances for mods though

vestal plume
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testing weights is fuuun

vestal plume
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the friend who drew the banner art for the TS page has a sona with a hat heheh

compact creek
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hehe

vestal plume
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i just played gartic w them LOL

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it's the 2nd drawing lol

vestal plume
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uncle monty got a booboo guys... I'm afraid I'll die soon

soft raft
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What does that mean for wax soldier

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Faster release?

vestal plume
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xu......

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if and when I die.... join biodiversity....

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compleete my misioooon....

soft raft
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I guess I can take a weekend to finish all the enemies left behind 😔.
First though I'm gonna be going through @wicked belfry's butler concepts

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Like the fondler

vestal plume
wicked belfry
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thanks

vestal plume
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it's so hard to find ACTUAL ENTITIES in the fucking ENTITIES THREAD due to sHEER FUCKING AMOUNT OF BUTLERS IN THER

wicked belfry
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diue?

soft raft
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Aint no way you're saying the touchler isn't an actual entity

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Just PLEASE read the lore on the on the fondler, its peak

wicked belfry
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what about the tenticler

soft raft
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Omg the lore that shares with Wesley's ||hyve|| is so peak

vestal plume
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FUCK

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that doens't line up

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whatever

stable pumice
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The whateverler

vestal plume
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aside from the gardener

stable pumice
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Quick to the entities thread

peak trench
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what about my butler variant...

inland cloak
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trash, jacob is a visionnary

daring steppe
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hi dou dou

crystal cliff
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May I introduce… the BuButlerer. It sweeps up after the Butlers

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On death it can deploy mini butlers. Children in a trench coat vibes

lost pendant
compact creek
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when the butler was first teased i imagined a ltitle nightmares kinda vibe where he'd protect the kitchen

peak trench
lost pendant
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like it was a suggestion

peak trench
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yeah it is a suggestion but it isn't a chef

vestal plume
crystal cliff
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Well, great minds think alike. Also, mine are mini

crystal cliff
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The bombardler: calls in an air strike on your location

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irl

compact creek
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the sneaky stealer

sand vortex
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bruh so many bugs 😩

vestal plume
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that's really funny

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I remember encountering this in beta testing

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THE MANEATER????

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holy shir

vestal plume
hidden pollen
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nah it definitely went through a wall

vestal plume
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Custom interior tbf

compact creek
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it took me too long to discover this mod

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i used to make modpacks that had a whole bunch of creatures and for some reason i never saw this one

molten lark
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where were you getting your creatures then...

compact creek
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oh trust me
i have a modpack with almost every modded enemy possible

void willow
hidden pollen
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ah, thats fair

crystal cliff
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was just about to say that. Like, I guess it clips into the top part since it can't crawl but there is a "path" there

tropic ingot
vestal plume
void willow
soft raft
vestal plume
vestal plume
fierce wren
compact creek
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what does the wax soldier even look like

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i forgor

crystal cliff
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a soldier

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but wax

compact creek
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last time i saw it was in a playthrough and it didnt do anything because it's not added

compact creek
compact creek
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aw he silly

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id light him like a candle

vestal plume
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he's a goober

lavish lava
crystal cliff
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the sniffler: similar AI to the Bracken but sneaks up behind you and takes a big sniff

lavish lava
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no words

compact creek
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what's the wax soldier gonna do or do we not know yet

vestal plume
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this spreadsheet is fuicked up man

soft raft
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that font is insane

vestal plume
vestal plume
soft raft
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okay good 😭

vestal plume
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this is what it looks like normally

soft raft
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okay, readable

vestal plume
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ye :3

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also here's all the (planned) leaf boy reskins coming next update

stable pumice
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"weird"

vestal plume
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ive showed em already but it's always good to let people to know that this still exists

vestal plume
void willow
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purple

sacred delta
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Are you calling purple weird?

vestal plume
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don't tell narpy

stoic vortex
soft raft
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for all your purple haters

vestal plume
vestal plume
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my least favorite gender...

void willow
stoic vortex
crystal cliff
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inland cloak
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Hey chat im color blind, hope this image is red

crystal cliff
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-# I think those reactions are red

inland cloak
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I didnt even know you could do duplicate red reacts

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Thats funny

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Discord bug

flat garden
lavish root
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Hey, is anyone else having an issue that when an aloe is chasing a player, it causes everyone to have the fear filter?

lavish root
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Alright

bitter flare
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Its lore accurate because we'd all be scared of love

sand vortex
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i dont think people feel the emotion "love" if they are being kidnapped 💀

crystal cliff
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Kidnaps you with love

stable pumice
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Lmao

tropic ingot
inland cloak
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Im telling narpy

compact creek
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made peak

vestal plume
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LMAOO

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oh my god that's amazing hahahah

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actually....that gives me an idea

elfin delta
rapid mountain
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Just wondering, is this mod only required by host or does everyone need it?

rapid mountain
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ty CaydeUp

vestal plume
mild crater
spring idol
vestal plume
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what the fuck is this image 😭

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@tropic ingot removed the safe guard

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most bugs w the aloe are fixed now, too

sullen tundra
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wax nation

spring idol
vestal plume
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oh what LMAO

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why is he tiny

vestal plume
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i thoguht you was looking at the floor gang

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mb

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make sure to disable his broke ass though

void willow
spring idol
void willow
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Or even better, remove it

spring idol
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why though lol

soft raft
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he'll lag your game to hell, cause enemies to be unable to respond, and break other various things

daring steppe
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God

inland cloak
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And i know figo also already fixed it

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Still no update

inland cloak
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He breaks my immersion

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And my game

daring steppe
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And stole my money

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And house

velvet patrol
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He breaks my heart 💔

sacred delta
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He burnt down our crops, poisoned our water supply, and brought a plague upon our houses.

frozen mist
inland cloak
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maybe you should pester them constantly lunxara

soft raft
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the greatest motivator in all of lethal company

thorn scroll
compact creek
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(NOT MINE)
I asked a friend to draw the wax soldier and they made peak

vestal plume
vestal plume
vestal plume
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I just did not care enough to push out an update for it + scope creep happened and it's been long enough where most people know to disable it

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so I just stopped caring

soft raft
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probably atleast 150k unique players, i do not agree with "most people know to disable it" most people dont even know how to access configs lol

void willow
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It's REALLY hard to explain to my friends to just disable something via config

charred ore
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Agree

inland cloak
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the scope creep is an issue of management

charred ore
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I usually provide the preconfigured profile code but I know a few people in my group that would have a lot of trouble with it

inland cloak
tropic ingot
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Idk why y'all just can't push out a minor hotfix for it when it's probably like a couple lines of code

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It is genuinely frustrating when there's a prototax and eyeless dog going at it with each other

soft raft
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thats just how the entity is™️

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the distance from which you hear the sound isnt related to the distance the dog hears it

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oh i might've misunderstood you

tropic ingot
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No, I mean that it is annoying to hear the spewing sfx being played over and over for everybody when an eyeless dog and prototax are pretty much softlocked onto each other

soft raft
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yeah okay fair

tropic ingot
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They don't have specific pathing to get away from each other once aggravated

spring idol
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yoi

tropic ingot
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So it just

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builds up

spring idol
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whenever the aloe takes someone

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theres like a flat player and a ragdolled in its hands

inland cloak
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ogopogo still killing people through fall damage...

vestal plume
vestal plume
inland cloak
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this isnt leaking anything new btw, but yeah in december

vestal plume
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sorry, tests and everything have just made managing this a bit hellish and since I don't find these issues myself I just don't mind not pushing it

vestal plume
inland cloak
tropic ingot
spring idol
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oh the aloe has the pink dot?

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i didnt even know that i was just hella confused whenever it popped up lol

inland cloak
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the only thing that can save this mod is you adding all the jacob butler variants

tropic ingot
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The what

inland cloak
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Jacob spammed the concepting channel in the biodiversity server with a bunch of butler variant ideas

tropic ingot
spring idol
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yo

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whats vermin

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and why does the ogopogo disable them

soft raft
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the fondler is my favourite butler concept

inland cloak
soft raft
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@late hazel reference???

inland cloak
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@wicked belfry sorry but i leaked all your amazing ideas

crystal cliff
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honestly, should be its own mod 100%

inland cloak
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ignore the screen tear

solid flax
soft raft
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someone needs to make JacobsButlerDiversity

inland cloak
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my favorite jacob idea is the beekeeper

vestal plume
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that's just kind of nonsensical

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I get the concern it's just not something I'm willing to push for

vestal plume
peak trench
spring idol
vestal plume
spring idol
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sick

soft raft
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@solid flax he needs you

peak trench
# spring idol whats vermin

small little fish, ogopogo summons them when they grab someone. if you have a mod that makes it so water can't drown you they'll kill you instead

inland cloak
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water sucks in lethal

velvet patrol
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just drink all the water up and you'll be ok

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i don't know why people die to water all the time

inland cloak
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xu wanted to make a water enemy and i wouldve made a sort of mantaray that saves you from water in surfaced

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with a buoy

tropic ingot
solid flax
spring idol
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should this be on or off

vestal plume
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I'll write a more concise response to everything in a few hours btw, I'm w my wifey rn :)

vestal plume
sand vortex
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cuz it was like 1 line of code

vestal plume
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oh! cool

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I did not know that

spring idol
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what';s the scrap

vestal plume
spring idol
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so thats where those are from

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ty

late hazel
vestal plume
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I know I've been pretty bad about updating and keeping the mod "alive" and stable and stuff. I realistically should have released a few patches already as soon as Cc and Figo put them on the github but I kinda just thought it'd be fine if I waited it out, and people didn't seem to mind that much that you have to touch a config file in order for you game to not explode. I never found an issue w it myself and I... sort of? Very sort of have fell out of the game for some time, and between their tests and my tests and me moving I didn't want to bother w/ bothering either of them to give me a build to upload.

It's not really a justification for anything- I'm not trying to do that, I'm just explaining how the neglect came to be I suppose. Wesley's Journeys update got me back into the game (love you to death wesby) which is why there's been a bit more progress bts and stuff, but the neglect on my part's starting to actually reek, so with the Aloe bugs being fixed and the two sillies being done I... might push for an update once the relevant bug fixes are pushed, but don't count on it for some time.

I'm really sorry for how I've been managing the project.

I hope you all understand this is just a passion project of mine and the team and that I really don't take development of this as seriously as some other mod devs would. The neglect has its reasons but ultimately most of the issues with 0.1.3. could've been fixed within a week, and you're right to put that on me, because it is totally my fault. Going forward, don't expect super consistent updates (I don't think you do anyway but, yknow). I'll be better about pushing for fixes for game-breaking shit though, I'll assure you.

Thanks for being patient w/ me, I appreciate y'all playing with me and the team's mod!

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ye, If you weren't involved in the conversation above don't bother w/ reading this, I just wanted to make like an all-encompasing response

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sorry

inland cloak
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greed tldr im the new manager of biodiversity

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Aloe will now explode

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Ogopogo explodes

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Sus shroom explodes

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Forgot the other ones

mild crater
tropic ingot
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code

sacred delta
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Just thought I’d say how much I love this mod, all of the monster concepts and designs fit the vanilla games style so well and adding it to the modpack for the first time made it feel like playing v55 or v60 when an update first released. It’s easily one of if not my favourite monster mods which I add to most of my modpacks even if it does update “slowly”.
-# I’d argue that just makes it more similar to vanilla monsters anyway.

vestal plume
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ay, thanks a lot

compact creek
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(might as well compliment it too)

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I don't care if the update took years to release for this mod. I think this mod is a trye gem amongst many and deserves all the love and support it so desperately needs. If you ever need help with anything like design or artwork, I will gladly help at any time. More passion projects should feel like this.

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Also, I agree with Toast, this is the most vanilla monster mod i have EVER seen (that is a huge compliment btw), some of this mod feels more vanilla than whats in the game to begin with!

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Every modpack deserves this mod's exciting takes on the game.

vestal plume
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I love their style :3

vestal plume
iron furnace
sullen tundra
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At least in lethal company terms

oblique python
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Meanwhile my 220 mod pack plink

sullen tundra
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Okay so it’s not just me phew

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I’m sitting at 268 atm

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😛

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No game breaking bugs either thankfully

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At least to my knowledge

oblique python
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Im trying to stay on ~200 number
No game breaking bugs on my side too

sullen tundra
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W modpacks are getting more stable

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Hallelujah

sullen tundra
oblique python
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But for biodiversity I got rid of ogopogo except for seichi

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On seichi I consider him as some sort of sacred snake or something plink

oblique python
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Heavily depends on PCs I think

spring idol
iron furnace
iron furnace
oblique python
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I had friends I played on my modpack with almost 2 months ago
and now they're gone... like they stopped playing lethal

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so I stopped even caring if it would work on clients or not, I'm just enjoying solo agony

iron furnace
oblique python
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It feels optimized, since LLL updated I feel decent progress
but you're right, like I need to shorten moon list mostly

sullen tundra
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It also depends on configurations and compatibilities

oblique python
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3050 Ti for me

sullen tundra
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I have no clue which is better

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I just know mine isn’t amazing but it also isn’t terrible

sullen tundra
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Have been doing so since modding for lethal became a thing

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May be an addiction at this point

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Oh well

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The ship of Theseus of modpacks

sullen tundra
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Bug fixing

iron furnace
sullen tundra
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Troubleshooting

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Adding stuff

sullen tundra
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And just joining myself

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Let’s me see both sides and get both logs if I happen to come across a bug that only appears in multiplayer

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Normally just desyncs

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I hate desyncs

sullen tundra
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Been non stop updating a pack that was meant for friends

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But

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My friends are burnt out on the game

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So I’m more so just doing it for me at this point

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That being said

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I have my pack published to the thunderstore so

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And I think it’s sitting at 8k downloads or smth like that

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So I guess I’m maintaining it for other ppl too

tired cedar
cosmic thistle
vestal plume
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this is fucking incredible holy shit

atomic shuttleBOT
vestal plume
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that's wax's canon voice now

cosmic thistle
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hell yeah

hidden pollen
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Pretty baller actually

peak trench
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@vestal plume look at this NOW

hidden pollen
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Text kinda smol tho

soft raft
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i was skimming through not really thinking about what i was looking at and thought someone drew wax soldier boba

peak trench
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spelling error spotted

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divesity

buoyant walrus
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oop

vestal plume
#

WHAT

vestal plume
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who posted...

soft raft
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you'll never know

vestal plume
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welp im dying now!!

soft raft
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i would tell you but i forgot

compact creek
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it was me

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i shall return it

buoyant walrus
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fix it quick!

compact creek
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(im ashamed of myself)

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sorry sorry

soft raft
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the spelling mistake?

hidden pollen
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At least it isnt on thunderstore already

soft raft
#

exactly

compact creek
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THERE we go (HANGING TRIGGER WARNING)

peak trench
hidden pollen
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I feel like you could give "diversity" some more room by changing it from a literal corpse (which might be a bit too morbid, at least for a site like thunderstore) to something in the shape of a D?

compact creek
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sure!

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I have an ideaa

soft raft
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ah yes

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Bio D Versity

vestal plume
#

it says "retured" instead of returned

compact creek
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oh dont worry im making it better

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Lemme cook

vestal plume
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I SHALL,....

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did you base it off the mod image?

compact creek
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yee

vestal plume
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:3c

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this is very cool

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I didn't thinkto change the mod icon ever but maybe I will based off this for whenever wax goldier comes out

compact creek
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What version of the mod will it be?

crystal cliff
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999.99.9

compact creek
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ok ok

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it's done

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@vestal plume eat up (blood warning)

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(square logo version)

orchid harbor
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oh my lord thats peak

vestal plume
inland cloak
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So peak version?

void willow
#

The so peak version.
It's so peak

inland cloak
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So peak it cant release

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Would melt peoples mind

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Like they were made of wax

soft raft
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someone put down this bienea

inland cloak
cosmic thistle
pastel patio
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i like the lil dalice you snuck in here

cosmic thistle
pastel patio
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dalice! :D

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have fuckin adored this thing since whoever it was first dreamed it up and posted about it in the cr thread

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Can't wait to see him become real

cosmic thistle
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He silly

pastel patio
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yes

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he do be

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love him

pastel patio
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cannot wait

compact creek
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and i know where he is too

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i dreamt up something else odd too

compact creek
#

me

vestal plume
vestal plume
inland cloak
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Were adding paraffin trooper to code rebirth

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He spams errors when he spawns

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And attacks players pc directly

jovial mirage
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is the wax man still broken

vestal plume
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Indeed

jovial mirage
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what does the wax soldier do thats different anyway

inland cloak
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Spam logs and break the gane

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Its pretty unique

sacred delta
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the errors causes lower fps, therefore making it harder to kill monsters

vestal plume
inland cloak
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Horseshoot was the opposite of wax soldier, we accidentally had it spawn, all its code worked but it had no model so it was a white square that launched you

inland cloak
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hell yeah

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broken code and no model

graceful sedge
vestal plume
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back to my gay ass colorcoding

soft raft
#

is the colour like... weather?

vestal plume
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the numbers don't indicate their actual weight, again it's just to keep track of them

soft raft
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icic

inland cloak
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mmmm pink weather

vestal plume
peak trench
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can you make all of these appear on fray

inland cloak
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can you make none of these appear anywhere

#

remove leafboys completely

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flamthrower

vestal plume
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and the dark purple one?

inland cloak
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actually make only the pink one spawn

vestal plume
#

these are supposed to fit in w/ the vegetation you know 6w6

peak trench
vestal plume
#

if you want I could have default, valley and tundra

soft raft
vestal plume
hidden pollen
humble river
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is this dev stuff?

vestal plume
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if you turn off the handler they won't show up

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I recommend turning off wax soldier handler

humble river
#

aloe should be kosher?

vestal plume
#

only issue enemies are wax soldier and prototax, since protos have global sounds

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you can just turn those off if you want but it's up to you

humble river
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but what is the "entity ID" actually called

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like

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Bracken is the name of the enemy

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but for configs and stuff it is "Flowerman"

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code name?

void willow
#

Aloe has a small issue making everyone enter their scared state when someone gets grabbed/get spotted really near the player

vestal plume
#

for like a modpack?

humble river
vestal plume
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cuz there's an enemy spreadsheet if you're interested

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ahhh cool cool

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Aloe is just Aloe ingame

humble river
vestal plume
#

or, TheAloe I think?

vestal plume
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I don't got the link to it rn lole

vestal plume
#

wiah me luck folks, Mr. Monty is about to take another exam

peak trench
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what does wiah mean

compact creek
vestal plume
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Unc got a 6 (4 and above is a passing grade)

vestal plume
charred ore
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congrats

vestal plume
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what really goes on at Biodiversity HQ

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coders, make all sounds global. thank you

soft raft
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i could do it in one line of code

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all sounds in the game, modded included

vestal plume
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I have the power to wag a finger and break everyone's eardrums... aghh the temptation is killing me

inland cloak
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alongside the great nutkicker

soft raft
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nutkicker is a very serious mod

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it really completes the word-i-cant-say-becayse-wesley-named-his-nutcracker-moon-something-inappropriate experience

humble river
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I went into imperium and wrote it all down manually 😂

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That also the only enemies that work outside of Ooblterra are Gallenarma, Baby Lurker, and Adult/Wanderers

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the rest rely on assets of the oobl interior specifically afaik

vestal plume
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ahh true true

vestal plume
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im trying so hard to find this one fucking gif of a kid screaming at a cashier giving them like 12 dollars worth of coins and smashing them on the counter

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chatroom help me

soft raft
#

Tried couldn't find it

vestal plume
soft raft
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Monty strikes me as a krillin typea person

peak trench
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monty strikes me as a gnome getting crushed by a mallet typea person

inland cloak
flat garden
inland cloak
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Yes

flat garden
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I might go blind

inland cloak
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Bald monty

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Baldiversity

flat garden
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This is mind blowing...

inland cloak
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No biodiversity enemy has hair

flat garden
inland cloak
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The wax soldiers boots and hat count as its skin btw

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Because theyre made of wax

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The rest of the clothing isnt

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Its bald and barefoot

flat garden
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No no I'm adding hair to it rn

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Wax hair

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Remodel the whole thing

inland cloak
#

Just give him a poofy hat

flat garden
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Like the ub

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Boom

inland cloak
#

Exactly

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Also make its coat red

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And have him be only wood

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Oh and give him a shotgun

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Then have his head open up with an eye that only sees movement

stoic vortex
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I hate red people, why were they born with red skin? Long live people with purple skin.

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And that's why the Wax Soldier will now be purple.

inland cloak
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He decided he liked the manor lords drip

mild crater
inland cloak
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Thats a leaf

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Dont make me go into biological terms

mild crater
vestal plume
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Bioidverisyt - Expanding upon LC's fauna and flora.

daring steppe
#

can we get a fact check on this

crystal cliff
#

Chat, is this true?

grizzled storm
compact creek
#

dang

hollow stream
#

I now have a stroke every time I read the title SCaraara

pastel patio
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bioidverisyt

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my fcaboureirte mod

soft raft
pastel patio
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hi xu

supple bough
#

bivodsersit

peak trench
inland cloak
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Why animation so jittery

vestal plume
#

I like the enemy shaking as it goes down hop off the gogo dick

vestal plume
peak trench
vestal plume
#

I love seeing first time reactions lmao

inland cloak
#

Also you called ogo a dick EvilPawsy

vestal plume
#

no I didn't

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I said "gogo dick"

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hop off ogopogo's dick vro

soft raft
#

im gonna need some visuals to hlep me understand

tawny sluice
#

biodiversigreen 🟢

inland cloak
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Baldiversity

hollow stream
#

Is it just me or does the title get worse every time I look at it? AnimatedPlink

inland cloak
#

Slowly degrading with the lack of updates

grizzled storm
void willow
#

Boivideysrt

vestal plume
grizzled storm
#

Bluodoversity🔵

vestal plume
#

BLUUEEEEEEEEE

inland cloak
#

Bald

neon panther
#

What about releasediversity

void willow
pastel patio
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biodeprecaty

vestal plume
#

if this gets 80 bajillion plink reacts I deprecate biodiversity and jump off my roof

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if this message gets 1 kneel-sama react I kill everyone who reacted to the message above with a wide selection of sturdy bricks I stole from a construction site

sacred delta
sacred delta
#

You can kill Nutrigo for no good reason

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He’s the exception

vestal plume
#

everyone dies, there is now only one kneel-sama

sacred delta
#

This is the first time in my entire time using discord I’ve needed nitro

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Thanks discord for your useful paywalls

vestal plume
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LMAO