Moons of Otherworldly Oddity and other Miscellaneous mods

[upbeat horizon]

Flickering signs and some more ambient music I could do

[spring shard]

Btw is it normal that ||pandoramus|| has 100 weight on each vanilla scrap? Making modded ones difficult to spawn?
If not 100, then still high enough for it to gatekeep modded ones

[upbeat horizon]

it is normal

[spring shard]

[royal stump]

I like the new moons so far, very nice vibe. I was wondering, are the shiny textures on Scald intended though?

[upbeat horizon]

Not really, I didn't notice it until playtesting and kinda left it that way.

[civic ginkgo]

Will the new beta moons eventually be added into the collection or do they stay separate

[spring shard]

Joining to the question
Or maybe new separate moonpack?

[royal stump]

That's kinda what i thought which is why i asked. Another thing i noticed is that flooded weather on the moon is pretty evil, i got it first when testing and the hot water is kinda impossible to see from what i noticed.

Otherwise i didn't notice anything that seems too rough or possibly unintended, definitely enjoying the new moons aside from what i mentioned so far!

[upbeat horizon]

I've been working on a new moonpack, it currently has 9 moons and progress has been slow, so I took the 4 most complete of the bunch and put them out there like a playable teaser of sorts. Some definitely rougher than others but the biggest issues they had should be ironed out by now.

If everything goes right, they'll have a pseudo progression system. How that works specifically I want to keep a surprise

Current working title is Marvelous Expeditions of Ostentatious Wonder

[tropic elk]

meow!

[native folio]

Meow meow!

[royal stump]

So another pack aside the otherwordly moons, sounds pretty cool! Can't wait to see what the finished pack will look like.

Just did a round on stormy Consternation, was dropping a two handed item while running at this spot on the left when leaving the ship and it clipped through the ground, didn't have it happen before but thought i report it anyway.

[upbeat horizon]

I'll take a look at the platforms colliders when I have a chance

[honest hare]

will it have a cozy snow moon?

[royal stump]

I mean, Consternation is sort of cozy, no?

[honest hare]

ah didnt see that one yet

overlooked it while scrolling the thunderstore-releases channel

[royal stump]

It's pretty neat, especially for early game i would say.

Though i still crave for more, really cool endgame moons like Pandoramus that are just visually really unique.

[upbeat horizon]

It would appear dropping items right on this crack will make them fall through

[royal stump]

That's probably what happened for me as well.

[civic ginkgo]

Sweet was very positively surprised by Wesley so I'm excited to see what you come up with

[civic ginkgo]

9 sounds awesome

[latent knot]

is the 1.0.0 for Hometown v69 or v70+? my modpack cant update to v70+ yet

[royal stump]

I wanna report on another small, possible bug with Scald. It seems that on rainy weather, going in and out of the facility can cause the rain to stay in the interior. I think it's an issue with the moon since i played multiple other moons and never had it happen elsewhere.

[vestal echo]

with the 4 recent moons what size are they?

As I wanna stick to moons that actually don't fully rely on the crusier or too large to treverse on foot

[upbeat horizon]

It was built on V70, might work on V69 but only play testing will tell

[upbeat horizon]

Some reverb triggers are screwy, gonna look at it when I can

[royal stump]

[upbeat horizon]

Consternation and trepidation are roughly experimention sized, Scald is a bit of a long walk but has a few fire exits you can shortcut to with an extension ladder, syndication is fairly large and open but Main is close by

[latent knot]

also would it be the same with the other new moons then?

[upbeat horizon]

ye

[upbeat horizon]

should be fixed in the newest version

[fair garnet]

Let’s go I get to come back to the news moons let’s gooo

[royal stump]

Nice, i will give it some test runs!

[upbeat horizon]

1.3.4 D.U.L.L.

Subsystems v1.3.2

• Interior Size and generation rework. The interior being too large is a common complaint, the way the interior generates has been adjusted to make it generate more concisely and with loot rooms more common along the main path and in general. the amount of Branching has also been reduced overall.

[vestal echo]

Peak-

Anyways I love the new moons,

I feel that Trepidation, should have rain particles like how Chameleon adds it to March and Gordion/Company. And the fire exit was sorta hard to find which I don't mind but perhaps a red light or normal fire would be better.

[fair garnet]

https://insights.gg/v/6yrrKktMwghM5TVG3YVwDP

so tried scald immediate outside area

and had this happen

almost drowned in the air in cruiser

[fair garnet]

https://insights.gg/v/2C9LmCYhqshq7cpoC9EW1U

uncruisable I think not

[bitter vigil]

Two small things i noticed:

• this grate texture (used on for example lithium or makron) is scaled in a weird way which makes it create these visual artifacts (more noticeable when moving around)
• not sure if this is intentional, but the lights in the main entrance tile of the studio interior do not turn off after pulling app

[bitter vigil]

and there can be stuck items inside these red boxes (you can still get it with ladder), which might just be a vanilla thing

[upbeat horizon]

The Studio lights thing was intentional no worries, the Red boxes in the subsystems however, is not

[upbeat horizon]

1.3.3 Subsystems

• Scrap won't spawn under Red Crates anymore.

[hard sorrel]

bad interior unplayable 😡

[fair garnet]

Fear the floating plant

[spring shard]

[vestal echo]

Subsystems on experimentation barely had any scrap making the amount spawn be like-

So I used science bird tweaks to add 6 extra scrap spawn and it appears to have fixed it-

Not sure about the balance of gray apartments (as their too large) and Studio not spawning lots of scrap. So I might mess with adding additional scrap to them too.

[vestal echo]

Okay additonal 6 fixed that issue for studio.

Not sure about gray thou-

[royal stump]

Experimentations minimum scrap amount is 9 i believe so that feels pretty normal.

[vestal echo]

I have buttery rebalance and it makes it 11-15 for experimentation

Meaning like a part of them don't spawn

[bitter vigil]

you can always make the interior generate smaller

[royal stump]

Didn't know buttery balance does that unless it's something you have to configure first.

[royal stump]

Off topic but i really like your current moons btw, can't wait to see what you do next

[vestal echo]

yea checked and that setting is automatically on.

But so far I got consistently around like 6 scrap spawn on experimentation with subsystem so it's definitely an issue with it

[bitter vigil]

thank you for the kind words
i am working on something new but i wont have a lot of time the coming weeks so idk when i will be done

[royal stump]

Weird, it's only happening with the sub systems?

[royal stump]

That's totally fine, good things take time!

[bitter vigil]

how do you determine the amount of items?

[vestal echo]

using the scan in the ship

And it say 6 most of the time

when that interior showed up

[bitter vigil]

yeah 6 should never happen

[royal stump]

Isn't there a thing with the scanner not always being accurate unless mods that fix it are used?

[vestal echo]

yeah idfk why that's happening for me, same goes to studio

but might be some modtweak or something.

As Hanger from Beanie's scrap amount is good

[bitter vigil]

did it happen once or is it consistent

[vestal echo]

I think it happened like 2 times for sub.

And for studio I think once but I remember double checking and it having the same issue again

[bitter vigil]

value is mostly double of what it actually is, but count should be right

[royal stump]

Strange, either another mod messing something up or it's an issue i myself never really noticed since i always have Mae's dungeons and moons in my modpacks.

[vestal echo]

probably due to me using vanilla moons atm-

[bitter vigil]

i just tested subsystems on a moon that always spawns 45 items and it spawned that amount

[bitter vigil]

DemonMae's Interior mods are probably the best at having similar scrap per area as vanilla ones

i would have noticed something if any of their interiors made items not spawn

[royal stump]

I agree, they are some of the best ones out there.

And the sub systems in particular got an indirect buff by having their corridors made shorter i believe.

[vestal echo]

Yea idk why I'm having this issue then

[bitter vigil]

did you try setting item amount with LLL instead?

[bitter vigil]

yeah it used to be impossible to full clear sub system on bigger dungeon size moons

[vestal echo]

That I did not

[bitter vigil]

maybe try to disable the scrap injection from butteryrebalance and use LLL (dont forget to set enable content config to true) instead

[vestal echo]

Yea I'll try that then when I get the chance

[royal stump]

I kinda felt that yeah, now it feels better from the little bit of testing i did but i still have to play with a proper team again.

[bitter vigil]

i dont know what other mod could cause one specific interior to spawn less loot

[bitter vigil]

i think it is way too small now because i already set the size to be lower

i will test a couple more seeds to make sure

okay now i got a seed with 40 items

[royal stump]

I think what could help this kind of issue would be some more rooms, similar to how the mansion recently got remade. Maybe it's just me but if i go into a dead end with an interesting looking room to find, it feels less boring than walking through endless hallways.

[bitter vigil]

i think what makes sub systems more difficult is that scrap only spawns in specific tiles

similar to grand armory

[royal stump]

Hmm, that sounds fair. I don't have it high in terms of weight on many of the late game moons i think so i experience it more on the earlier moons.

[bitter vigil]

now i am also starting to get some seeds with less items despite the item count being set to exactly 44

[bitter vigil]

might actually be something with sub systems

[royal stump]

Mae is probably gonna take a look at it just to see if anything faulty is going on.

[vestal echo]

That is what I assumed would be the case since the change affected loot rooms

Studio idk

[bitter vigil]

[14:19:59.7869727] [Info : Unity Log] Number of scrap to spawn: 45. minTotalScrapValue: 200. Total value of items: 0. [14:19:59.8055685] [Info : Unity Log] No tiles containing a scrap spawn with item type: Magnifying glass [14:19:59.8055685] [Info : Unity Log] No tiles containing a scrap spawn with item type: Golden cup [14:19:59.8055685] [Info : Unity Log] No tiles containing a scrap spawn with item type: Magnifying glass [14:19:59.8055685] [Info : Unity Log] No tiles containing a scrap spawn with item type: Golden cup [14:19:59.8055685] [Info : Unity Log] No tiles containing a scrap spawn with item type: Magnifying glass [14:19:59.8065613] [Info : Unity Log] No tiles containing a scrap spawn with item type: Magnifying glass [14:19:59.8065613] [Info : Unity Log] No tiles containing a scrap spawn with item type: Magnifying glass [14:19:59.8065613] [Info : Unity Log] No tiles containing a scrap spawn with item type: Magnifying glass [14:19:59.8065613] [Info : Unity Log] No tiles containing a scrap spawn with item type: Magnifying glass [14:19:59.8065613] [Info : Unity Log] No tiles containing a scrap spawn with item type: Golden cup [14:19:59.8065613] [Info : Unity Log] No tiles containing a scrap spawn with item type: Magnifying glass [14:19:59.8065613] [Info : Unity Log] No tiles containing a scrap spawn with item type: Magnifying glass

if these 12 items had spawned the count would be correct

[vestal echo]

Yea I guess

It's something wrong on studio and Subsystem item spawns

[upbeat horizon]

I think I know why that info log is happening

[hard sorrel]

its cause theres no tabletop locations

some scrap items are considered as "tabletop"

magnifying glasses is one

its the same reason in the first v60 beta mineshafts couldnt spawn them

alongside fancy lamps, golden cups, and probably something else i forgot

[bitter vigil]

that would explain why i did not notice that

[hard sorrel]

this is also why in factory you only see magnifying glasses spawn at wooden pallets (dead by daylight)

[bitter vigil]

because usually i have sub systems on moons that dont spawn that type of loot

but i tested on empra which spawns a lot of these

[bitter vigil]

is it facility only?

[hard sorrel]

yeah the pallets in mineshaft dont have loot nodes

scrap can spawn on them due to nodes bleeding onto them

tabletop spots are the orange crates and specific cave tiles

[bitter vigil]

interesting

[upbeat horizon]

Gonna have to update every single interior I've made

[balmy orchid]

What happened?

[upbeat horizon]

Every Scrap spawner has a Missing in the spawn type field, non fatal error but still needs to be fixed

[balmy orchid]

Oof

[hard sorrel]

i swear ive seen tabletops in gray apartments

but maybe not 🤷

[hard sorrel]

no way

is this real chat?????

[royal stump]

The fix we never knew we needed!

[vestal echo]

https://tenor.com/view/shia-labeouf-clapping-theatre-gif-15313749163340250467

[upbeat horizon]

I want it known this tile was the most arduous to make Radar maps for

[vestal echo]

Wait what tile is that from??

[upbeat horizon]

Rrajigar Mines

[upbeat horizon]

updates for everything should be rolling out soonish, I'm not digging up every thread just to post the same patch note for everything.

Stat Trivia for stat likers, every interior ranked by Tile Count:

Cyberworld: 28
Card Castle: 27
Niven Reactor: 27
Red Apartments: 26
Gray Apartments 26
Blue Mines: 25
Nali Haven: 25
Dreary Pipeworks: 24
Gothic Monastery: 24
Chizra Temple: 24
Skaarj Outpost: 24
Green Ruines: 23
Rrajigar Mines: 23
CIDOM Metro: 23
Guardia Fortress: 22
Gearbolt Foundry: 22
Sub Systems 21
Studio: 21
Accursed Crypts: 21
Raven Manor: 19

[balmy orchid]

I thought Raven Manor had more than Studio tbh ngl

[vestal echo]

The more simple the better lol

[vestal echo]

peak is updating

[upbeat horizon]

🐯 🦊 🐶 🐰 soon

[hard sorrel]

WHAT

[fair garnet]

Animals are coming soon

Plz don’t send a tiger to my house plz

[royal stump]

Peak is gonna come soon?

[upbeat horizon]

MRAPI suits from a game I really like. That is all.

[upbeat horizon]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/DemonMae/Lei_Luo_Suit/
https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/DemonMae/Li_Suit/
https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/DemonMae/Tao_Suit/
https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/DemonMae/Ao_Bai_Suit/

[upbeat horizon]

2.3.0 Moons of Otherowrldly Odditiy

• Pandoramus Has a separate release now.
• Pandoramus now supports Beanies Liminal house, Playzone, and Gearbolt Foundry.

Halation V2.3.0

• Added some Mansion cars to the Roads.
• Lowered the Weight of the Kiwi. (3 => 1)

Calypso V2.1.2

• Lowered the Weight of the Kiwi. (100 => 70)

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/DemonMae/Pandoramus_moon/

[balmy orchid]

@obtuse heron Love the icon

[upbeat horizon]

right I don't think many people have even seen it if they haven't looked at the one on the tierlist

[obtuse heron]

hexagons

[balmy orchid]

Seriously though, one of your best icons 🔥

[obtuse heron]

without the background

[hard sorrel]

can you add compatibility for legmrs interiors theyre so peak 🙏🔥

[upbeat horizon]

what are they

[hard sorrel]

legmr only puts their stuff into the one mod

theyve just never updated the short description and its only mentioned on the README of the mod

which also contains the changelog because legmr apparently doesnt know how to use that tab on thunderstore releases

but the interiors are nuclear bunker and hotel

[upbeat horizon]

I'll consider it for a future update

[hard sorrel]

you dont have to i just think itd be really funny

[obtuse heron]

theyre skippable

[hard sorrel]

ignore the haters

they will not slow down peak

[upbeat horizon]

I mean I put support for the Digital Hex interior, that probably is my bar

[latent knot]

Most peak duo of interiors the 10fps scrap spawning outside map interior and the 1fps turn wrong and the interior deloads

[chrome lark]

Is ||Keliados|| moon planned to be separate just like Pandoramus?

[upbeat horizon]

Ye

[latent knot]

is that your child

[hard sorrel]

https://tenor.com/view/kanye-kanye-west-roblox-roblox-memes-roblox-meme-gif-1028997715501554265

[rich copper]

is there anyway to remove the filter in lament? (and i assume the other moons if they have any)

[upbeat horizon]

short of a mod that removes Post Processing there isn't.

[buoyant lava]

whats gemini ?

[upbeat horizon]

Do you have the Nightmare Moons bundle installed with the individual release of the Iris

[buoyant lava]

oh wait yea
i didnt know iris was added in there
did i accidentaly shows a spoiler or something lol

[upbeat horizon]

nah

The Iris is internally named Gemini

Like how Kaleidos is named Prism

[buoyant lava]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1314687234678591489/1333395658232823829/scarseven.gif

[upbeat horizon]

2.3.1 M.O.O.Ns

Baykal Updated to V2.2.3

Calypso Updated to V2.1.3

Espira Updated to V2.3.3

Makron Updated to V2.1.3

Mazon Updated to V2.2.3

Rockwell Updated to V2.3.2

• Moons above have had Changes to some foliage and minor texture changes to Terrain.

Lithium Updated to V2.2.2

• Added more navmesh blockers to try fixing fringe lag issues.
• Added a water layer at the bottom of the map in niche cases the fall doesn't kill.

2.2.2

Flicker Updated to V1.2.2

Lament Updated to V1.1.2

Pareidolia Updated to V1.1.2

• All Moon have also had changes to some foliage and minor terrain texture tweaks

0.1.3 Syndication

• Fixed The Ships Offlinks.
• Changed the textures on the foliage.

1.4.0 Vanilla Ice Interiors

Subsystems updated to v1.4.0

• More Generation adjustments.
• Added and shifted some Scrap spawns.
• Overhauled the Default Weights.

Studio Floor updated to v1.3.3

• Overhauled the Default Weights.
• Doors are a bit thinner.

Raven Manor updated to v1.1.3

• Overhauled the Default Weights.
• Added a bunch of Navmesh Offlinks to hopefully fix some Navigation quirks.
• Added LODs to a bunch of Objects.

The interior list on the DULL interiors now actually has the whole list of weights for each interior within, something I've been neglecting to do. Skelahs moons and Beanies moons are new additions

[little jolt]

I love how the entire Moons of Otherworldly Oddity moon pack with 11 moons weights less than a single unoptimized moon

And the interiors too

[balmy orchid]

DemonMae is a master

[little jolt]

I decided to optimise the moons and interiors in my modpack and replace the unoptimized ones with DemonMae's, I ended up with 10 more moons, 12 more interiors and half the size used by all moons and interiors, big W

[hard sorrel]

mfw i check if studio wasnt as bright as i remembered because people are telling me it wasnt
and it is

also funny

[upbeat horizon]

Buranyu

[little jolt]

none of the moons or interiors seem to load, i mean, they do on the log

uhh

i think pareidolia is on the 2 moon packs

i disabled Nightmare Moons and it works now

@upbeat horizon Are you aware of this?

[upbeat horizon]

oops

I was very tired when doing uploads, must've slipped that in there by mistake

uploading version with it gone now

[little jolt]

ohh, and thats why the pack was 124 mb instead of 115, i was really confused

[vestal echo]

I heard you updated the interiors with props

[rigid gull]

One of the best moon/interior makers. I don't know how you even manage to keep so many of them in check.

[civic ginkgo]

Do the weights update automatically or do I need to regenerate the LLL config?

[civic ginkgo]

So excited

[upbeat horizon]

If you use your own weights don't worry. I'm not sure if they update automatically if you have custom settings off, but you can delete the section with notepad and it'll Regen the missing sections

[restive torrent]

LLL config doesn't auto update its entries, only its defaults

You can delete and regen that section of the config, or copy paste the new defaults into the list

Either way can be done with vscode

[rigid gull]

What does "Interior colorations" affect in Apartments?

[little jolt]

I think that's in the readme

[royal stump]

It affects the lighting.

[upbeat horizon]

@rigid gull This is an example of the Lighting option when enabled

[rigid gull]

That's "Light modes" though, no?

[fair garnet]

Nuh uh not me

Or do I?

[civic ginkgo]

Wait so I can just cut out parts of the LLL config and it will regenerate the missing parts? I have been deleting the whole config every few months and manually inserted my custom weights until now T.T if thats true that would save me so much time and effort

[upbeat horizon]

worked when I did it ye

[civic ginkgo]

Btw did you ever notice that you gave some interiors like cidom metro 3 weights for harloth?

[upbeat horizon]

Mistakes were made

[hard sorrel]

this shit be like the 111 spawn weight bottles on assurance

[hard sorrel]

after 825 years, i have finally seen a rare painting post-rarity fix

and its one i never saw before

so thats cool

[upbeat horizon]

The gunfire reborn painting, 1 of I think 10 or so videogame reference paintings. Collect them all and win a prize. (The joy of knowing you're astronomically lucky)

[rigid gull]

Don't GFR devs hate modding?

[upbeat horizon]

They don't like people modding their game. The VR mod is an exception I think

[rigid gull]

Makron with Universal Radar.

[tropic elk]

I personally just disable universal radar on moons that have custom radar manually tbh

[rigid gull]

UR improves radar even on those.

Without UR:

[hard sorrel]

i so badly wish radaredits did not fuck with spike traps as much as it does

like, i just do not like the new radar in v70

and radaredits is the only mod that reverts it good

but makes spike traps fucking awful to deal with on the ship

[little jolt]

Universal Radar issue

[rigid gull]

I just posted an image without UR.

[little jolt]

#1385016182330888252 message

It should hide custom layers

Anyways you can disable each moon individually from Universal Radar

[rigid gull]

This image is without UR: #1275707054564180009 message Hello???

[sharp rivet]

it means that UR didn't find all outlines in moon hierarchy

and only hide some of them

[rigid gull]

Yes, I get that. But orange radar is not normal either way.

[sharp rivet]

orange radar it's moon outline

[little jolt]

Good mod but has bugs

[rigid gull]

Unless Daemon intended it to look like that.

[sharp rivet]

so moon dev did orange

[little jolt]

The orange outline comes with the moon, it was manually made by DemonMae

[rigid gull]

Don't like that, considering it's supposed to be green no matter the planet.

[sharp rivet]

then ask moon dev to not color it by orange

[little jolt]

It depends on the person, I like it

[rigid gull]

Well, that's why I initially posted. To bring it to dev's attention.

[rigid gull]

It's inconsistent.

[little jolt]

Ask DemonMae or wait for universal radar to update, in the next update it's supposed to hide these existing layers (or contour maps) that come with the moon

#1385016182330888252 message

[upbeat horizon]

Mostly for @royal stump but also for anyone else looking to unlock Kaleidos. In the last few in game hours, a glowing orb appears on all the moons from the pack, they're in mostly hard to find or out of the way spots, when the moon gets a standalone release, it'll be unlocked from the get go.

[royal stump]

Ohhhh

I read about the part about the last few hours but since i never knew exactly what to look for, it was kinda difficult.

[upbeat horizon]

I don't remember where I hid them all, but the one on Pandoramus specifically is in an isolated hole

also Radar colors reflect the Color Motif for each moon. same for the Oneshot moons, Nightmare moons play it straight with Green.

[royal stump]

I was thinking way too much out of the box i think, i thought it had something to do with barbers for example because of Kaleidos being made of clay iirc.

But that makes me wanna try and unlock it properly now that i know what to look for.

[upbeat horizon]

@sharp rivet @rigid gull the Radar is a quad rather than a sprite, guessing that's what makes it look inconsistent

Kinda dig the mix of both styles not gonna lie

[rigid gull]

[upbeat horizon]

Since it's getting a Standalone anyway, Here are the Kaleidos Unlocking orb spots. Spoilered if anyone still desires hunting for them.

Halation: ||On the doorway near the basketball court||
Espira: ||In front of the Gravestone with the JoJo Reference.||
Mazon: ||On the Battlements above the the Fortress's gate||
Praetor: ||Under the Bridge leading to the Fire Exit opposite the Main Entrance, on a small cliff||
Rockwell: ||On the edge of the land behind the Ship||
Calypso: ||Behind the Main Entrance's building||
Makron: ||On the Pipe above the ship.||
Lithium: ||In a shipping container with Cameras and Microphones||
Baykal: ||Upon leaving the ship, turn 45 degrees to the right and keep walking until you find a big tree next to a small lake. It's behind that tree.||
Ultimatum: ||Inside a Crater beneath a watchtower. This one is the hardest to find.||
Pandoramus: ||In a small, deep, and conspicuous hole away from any canyons.||

[chrome lark]

Kaleidos standalone! |Lets gooo!

Also dang there was that many?

[royal stump]

There was something i have been curious about since earlier, if modded entities are added to the outside of Pandoramus, would they work with Pandoramus unique spawning mechanic?

[upbeat horizon]

They would not. Only Vanilla monsters are summoned by the pillars, they can still appear under normal spawning but it's very likely they will get dwarfed since every monster has a weight 100 on the inside

[royal stump]

I kinda thought so, it would have been really cool if it worked but it's probably too much.

[royal stump]

Seems like the walls around the fire exit on Trepidation are not solid, not sure if intended or not.

[upbeat horizon]

oopsies, I'll fix it soon

[royal stump]

[upbeat horizon]

0.1.3 Trepidation

• Fixed several buildings not having colliders.
• Added a boombox playing music at 'The Joint'.

[tough basin]

@upbeat horizon hey just wanted to let u know that all of your moons have this weird effect where the ship goes under the terrain map

also none of your moons have hyphens between the numbers and the moon

just two pretty big minor issues

[hard sorrel]

https://tenor.com/view/death-die-dies-explode-explodes-gif-2004373368647406706

[rigid gull]

Unplayable. Uninstalling until that's fixed.

[upbeat horizon]

The map radar is a known issue, haven't gotten to it yet

[tough basin]

so true

[little jolt]

#1241786100201160784 message
Idk I'm just confused

[tough basin]

wheres the orb in halation

[unborn warren]

Man, playing Espira solo is somethimh

[upbeat horizon]

I have all the orb locations listed a little further up

[tough basin]

couldnt find it

[royal stump]

You don't see this after scrolling a few seconds?

[tough basin]

i cant find the ORB where demonmae says it is

[royal stump]

Well i don't know about that then and i don't wanna spoil myself.

[signal apex]

Same, didn't found anything

[lone turtle]

Apart from ||Espira||, is there any other moons from Moons of Otherworldly Oddity that have custom enemies/reskins?

[rigid gull]

DistinctMoonVariety with DistinctEnemyVariety.

MoonEnemyVariety for some other custom moons.

[lone turtle]

I meant from Moons of Otherworldly Oddity, I could have phrased it better so I edited the message, DistinctMoonVariety is very good tho

[upbeat horizon]

Custom enemies yes, reskins no

[rigid gull]

This pack has custom enemies?

[upbeat horizon]

Kaleidos has a barber variant that can spawn in excess

no custom skin for it

[chrome lark]

Kaleidos standalone, I will never forget you 😭 😂

[lone turtle]

Apart from Kaleidos, what other moons have custom enemies?

And by reskin I meant like ||the ghost dog|| which does nothing new and just looks different (unless it does do something new I have never checked)

[hard sorrel]

theres the glass enemies on pandoramus

thats all im aware of tbh

[royal stump]

Glass enemies?

[upbeat horizon]

in an older version enemies had a purpley textures to them

[royal stump]

[hard sorrel]

oh did you remove them

[royal stump]

I was about to say i'm pretty sure i would have noticed since i play Pandora pretty often.

[hard sorrel]

i mean they were a bit off but i could tell what they were meant to represent

idrk why you removed them

unless it was some massive performance issue

[upbeat horizon]

I didn't know JLLs entity spawner could work based off name, making the enemies glassy looking was so the moon wouldn't be 50 MB bigger than it needed to be

[hard sorrel]

oh i see

[royal stump]

Oof

[lone turtle]

So just Espira and Kaleidos have anything custom on them, alright this will help, thanks!

[restive torrent]

some of your interiors work with Zeranos right? which ones were they?

[upbeat horizon]

Dreary Pipeworks and Niven Reactor

[restive torrent]

i see, do you have plans to do some stuff from DULL for zeranos? i think the subsystems would work really well with it

[upbeat horizon]

subsystems is a maybe

[tropic elk]

I'll just send this here. is something broken or is this harmless? (I dunno which of your interiors causes these cuz I have all the packs 😅 )

[upbeat horizon]

I've noticed this too, I haven't observed any negative effects so I've been under the assumption that it's probably fine : )

[royal stump]

Found a spot where you can't grab the scrap

[upbeat horizon]

what am I looking at here, what's it stuck in

[latent knot]

raven interior in the bedrooms scrap spawns there all the time

wasnt sure if i was just missing something or you were supposed to be open the cabinet

[honest hare]

this cabinet also has like landmines and stuff spawning inside of it quite often

[royal stump]

Yeah it's the wardrobe/cabinet to the left of the bedroom tile in Raven Manor.

Surprisingly the first time i saw scrap being in this place.

[blissful wren]

the c-c-c-cc-c-c-c-c

CABINET!!!??!?!?

like from THE CABINET

[honest hare]

no

[blissful wren]

HOW DARE YOU 👺

the cabinet is clearly the only cabinet to ever have cabineted

[honest hare]

cabinet who?

[upbeat horizon]

Behold, the originally intended Pandoramus Word art I didn't use because I thought it sucked

[upbeat horizon]

I bring this up because Kaleidos standalone release probably later today

[upbeat horizon]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/DemonMae/Kaleidos_moon/

2.4.0 moonsofotherworldlyoddity

• Kaleidos has a standalone release now, and it is unlocked from the get go.
• Removed the Kaleidos unlocking methods from all moons.
• Radar maps are rendered as a sprite rather than a quad, this should fix weird radar interactions.

[steady flower]

No BarberFixes dependency is surprising, unless the Barber moon is meant to have a singular Barber on it

[upbeat horizon]

I forgot to add it as a dependency oh no

[upbeat horizon]

didn't need to forward the whole thing

Hometown Moon has been updated, info can be found in the Onshot/Deltarune interiors thread

[simple abyss]

hello, been noticing that this ladder near the main entrance on lament seems a little funky. cant really grab onto it from the bottom unless i jump towards the upper half. haven't had a problem like this with any other ladder

[upbeat horizon]

The ladder is tilted, which apparently Lethal Company doesn't like very much

[simple abyss]

oooooh i see, wack

good to know thank you

[unborn warren]

So, is Kaleidos unlocked in both the pack and standalone or just the latter?

[upbeat horizon]

Both. if it isn't, you may need to start a new save, since the unlock method was removed

[lone turtle]

I'm gonna miss having to unlock Kaleidos, made the moon feel special, but I mean no one would have known about the orbs so

[vestal echo]

What's the difference between the || iris masked and normal ones||

[hard sorrel]

they have a separate spawn cap

thats it

[vestal echo]

oh lol

[random mirage]

||i thought you said irs 💀 ||

[vestal echo]

New masked variant-

They drive around and are the IRS and steals a portion of your credits

[random mirage]

"i dont care WHO the irs sends, i am NOT PAYING TAXES!!"

[languid crest]

yknow what?

i think taxes could spice up the game

the true 9 to 5 experience..

[fair garnet]

WHERE?!?!

[upbeat horizon]

I recently finished a big interior project, and some post release updates and some fixes for raven manor are pending. Zeranos has recently been updated so I have my eyes set on making more of my interiors work on that moon, gearbolt foundry and guardia fortress from UT99 interiors and the subsystems are currently slated, and I'm all ears for any others that people want prioritized.

[heavy dirge]

You might already know, but just a heads-up: you need the TerrainContourMap tag on all your moon radar maps for them to follow below the player and be visible from all elevations. I've been getting a few people asking why Universal Radar isn't detecting your contour maps and that's why lol. I know you have a massive amount of stuff to maintain so it's no rush, I can work around it not being detected by Universal Radar on my end even without the tags.

[upbeat horizon]

I was not aware of this, I assumed it was a layering issue with the way they were displayed rather than a tagging related thing

[languid crest]

@upbeat horizon can i have the icon for hometown?

[upbeat horizon]

Here's the one for Facing Worlds too if you want

[languid crest]

thanks................

[upbeat horizon]

@digital hemlock Flickers 2nd Fire Exit is a one way exit, and Pandoramus's ambience is global, which is intentional 👍

[digital hemlock]

Noted. Thank you very much for getting back to me! I like Pandoramus but I find the noise a little disorienting at times lmao

Out of curiosity; how difficult was it making Pandoramus's entrance?

[upbeat horizon]

It took 2 attempts

It was more or less just modifying a kill trigger

[digital hemlock]

inch resting

anyways thanks a lot; keep up the good work!

[upbeat horizon]

Posting this in all relevent threads,
Guardia Fortress, Gearbolt Foundry, Skaarj Outpost and Subsystems are now Zeranos Compatible.

I also forgot to put Gearbolt and Sub Systems in the default weights.

[balmy orchid]

🔥

[balmy orchid]

What default weights do you have in mind for them?

[upbeat horizon]

Dreary 150
Guardia 200
Niven 150
Gearbolt 200
Skaarj 150
Sub Systems 225

are the weights in editor

[balmy orchid]

👍

[restive torrent]

colorblindness killing me here

but thank you for your work

now all we need is for zeranos to cycle dungeon flows between generations and its perfect

[balmy orchid]

Btw any reason why Raven Manor isn't slated for compat? I think it could work since someone ported the Vanilla Mansion

[restive torrent]

same with cidom metro i suppose

[balmy orchid]

I can imagine this would be difficult to implement, it's already impressive it can delete the interior and generate a new layout

[restive torrent]

that would probably work well

[upbeat horizon]

No interior is out of the question, the ones slated are just what I'm prioritizing at the moment

[balmy orchid]

Got ya

[spring shard]

Peak ❤️‍🔥

[upbeat horizon]

New List, Studio Floor, Rrajigar mines and both Gray and Red apartments are now Zeranos Compatible. Gray and Red Apps both have separate flows, check your LLL Config. I've also updated the others with measures to hopefully stop Fire Exits from appearing, since Zeranos doesn't have Fire Exits.

[balmy orchid]

Yippee lol, it was very funny that someone went out of a fire exit when we had Guardia and found out what happens lmao

[restive torrent]

Why do some of the interiors need separate flows for zeranos?

[upbeat horizon]

Red and Gray Apartments have 1 of two starting tiles, need to enforce one of them for the elevator to work properly. Guardia fortress needed a different flow because the normal starting tile wouldn't work with the elevator

[restive torrent]

Got it

Would these increase ram usage?

[upbeat horizon]

Yes, but it's negligible. The zeranos variants have an additional tile, but otherwise both flows pull from the same tiles afterwards

You're looking at maybe 100 kilobytes extra for all three combined

[restive torrent]

Cool

[hard sorrel]

friend put butlers outside on espira

got good screenshot from it

[upbeat horizon]

lol

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/DemonMae/Black_Fog_Weather/

First time making a custom weather type, may need future balancing, should work fine out of the box, go nuts

[hard sorrel]

i really hope we get more weathers that arent just "reducing the players vision"

its kind of ironic how much people hate foggy and yet the most commonly made weather concept is vision reduction

[chrome lark]

I just saw the title and can already say I love it

Thank you DemonMae

[upbeat horizon]

This is Foggy but Different

[chrome lark]

I have the modpage up haha. I can see. I figured it wasn't a simple recolor

[upbeat horizon]

I get what you mean, but bear in mind this is a first attempt. It was this or the Other one

[hard sorrel]

ah yes

the other one

[upbeat horizon]

Daybreak my beloved

[upbeat horizon]

Hope you have fun with it, lemme know if it has any problems if you use it

[chrome lark]

Ofc! I'll have to wait since I'm a gale user for it to even appear but I'll def test it out today and like every day after

[latent stag]

https://tenor.com/view/voices-of-the-void-earth-exploding-this-will-drastically-affect-the-signal-download-speed-gif-294955195400406118

[obtuse heron]

@bright kelp competition

[upbeat horizon]

Generics weather is what gave me the inspiration to try figuring this out, but the weather is unrelated

[bright kelp]

Not blue, I’m safe

[upbeat horizon]

The manuls spread

[upbeat horizon]

Itwas brought to my attention the configs for that weather were incomplete, this has been rectified

[obtuse heron]

https://tenor.com/view/the-fog-is-coming-brutality-gif-26972933

[obtuse heron]

encountered the fog. the ambience is quite welcome

good shit

[latent stag]

is it planned to have them be more "faithful" to votv and ||they can kill you||? rn the prying eyes seem rather docile

[upbeat horizon]

||potentially. might be a bit jank, gonna be looking into Pacoitos library to make them do the fear effect at the very least if not become aggressive.||

[latent stag]

hopefully you can, and also find something more inspired than just ||bad sun||. really like how this plays regardless, adds a perfect dash of terror lol

[spring shard]

I wonder if this one's gotta break lethalelements too

https://tenor.com/view/jgmm-cat-meme-ragebait-cat-think-cat-ponder-gif-7034802297606826390

[upbeat horizon]

can't imagine how

[spring shard]

That's what mrov said 😔

[rigid gull]

https://tenor.com/view/maxwell-gif-9346150164116943936

[obtuse heron]

https://tenor.com/view/the-fog-is-coming-brutality-gif-26972933

[spring shard]

yep

it's not your fault demonmae btw
generic's blue acts the same
LE is just outdated or mrov did the fuckery 🤷
-# or both

[urban folio]

LE?

-# i know its lethalelements hehe

[spring shard]

not LethalExpansion
I'm not that insane

[spring shard]

https://tenor.com/view/muhehe-cat-muhehe-muhehehe-cat-muhehehe-smirk-cat-muhehe-gif-17142133339517585968

[upbeat horizon]

rip

[charred burrow]

voices of the void mentioned

[willow wasp]

Wait lethal elements is dead? 💀

Ggs for the new weather! 🙌

[spring shard]

if combined with new 0.7.0 WR weathers (black fog, blue), then yes

[willow wasp]

Anything else planned?

[spring shard]

[willow wasp]

Lmao how is that possible

[spring shard]

NOBODY KNOWS

lmao

[hard sorrel]

shoutout to voxx vanishing

[willow wasp]

Lol but wait, it's just Lethal elements yes? No other mods?

[spring shard]

probably yeah

and that's the error from mrov's research while he was figuring out why LE doesn't work with blue

[willow wasp]

bruh

[spring shard]

wait a minute

@green walrus

why does it require OpenBodyCams to load the LE with blue/black fog weathers?

I literally added OpenBodyCams according to that error, and it loaded
but WHY

[green walrus]

as i've said yesterday

i don't KNOW

😭

[restive torrent]

aerrrrrrrrrrrrrrr, @cinder ore fix this thank you

[spring shard]

lol

[green walrus]

oh right, they've made a fix/reupload, right?

[spring shard]

for toxic smog
so maybe sniper will be able to remove openbodycams-related thingy if LE is responsible
for me it would make sense for solar flare glitchy part

I don't know lol

[green walrus]

this is what threw errors for me

i don't know why 😔

[spring shard]

it's okay mrov

[balmy orchid]

The errors are reflection errors so maybe it's searching by type when Blue and Black Fog are installed?

Otherwise idk

[green walrus]

no

no

i beg you

[spring shard]

so basically, 0.7.0 WR weathers

[balmy orchid]

It just doesn't make sense why it errors when those are present tbh, this isn't even the first time I've seen LE have weird issues with some mod combinations

I think LE just needs updated more than anything else

[spring shard]

I could probably even do the weather that replaces the skybox with 😂 emoji's, and it'll be most likely the same pr sure

[spring shard]

yea

[spring shard]

you have chosen this fate, zeekers of weathers

[green walrus]

I think that it tries to load that class even though OpenBodyCams are not present, but i cannot figure out why it's happening when WR loads assetbundles

[balmy orchid]

It's possible, but it doesn't error without Blue and Black Fog so that's why I assumed the reflection thing or maybe the patch hooks into a method that gets loaded when they're present

[green walrus]

both of those mods have no code present

and i'm not touching anything with OBC

[balmy orchid]

I didn't say you were lol

But you added new stuff to WR right that those mods make use of right? And for some reason it triggers LE to error

[green walrus]

that's what i'm saying

i cannot get it why it's happening

[balmy orchid]

You know

@spring shard does MonoDetour help here if it's on?

With the error?

[spring shard]

idk, lethallib is not present with those mods

[green walrus]

it does not help

[balmy orchid]

Shit

Lol

[spring shard]

I confirm that

[green walrus]

i've spent half a day yesterday debugging this

it's fun

[fallen steppe]

balls

[balmy orchid]

Blue balls?

[green walrus]

as chatgpt suggested:

[balmy orchid]

Hmmm

[fallen steppe]

I mean ye

[balmy orchid]

So it's a run order issue?

[green walrus]

what

no

[fallen steppe]

Likely missing a [MethodImpl(MethodImplOptions.NoInlining | MethodImplOptions.NoOptimization)] somewhere

[green walrus]

it's calling a mod that doesn't exist

[fallen steppe]

And is thus being gullible to inlining

[green walrus]

also no

[fallen steppe]

o

[balmy orchid]

I mean hm

[fallen steppe]

It shouldn't be getting to these methods at all though

[green walrus]

exactly

that's why it's really weird that it's happening

because the error is thrown from Assembly.GetExecutingAssembly().GetTypes();

[spring shard]

solar flare's OBC glitch REALLY wants to be there lmao

[green walrus]

which means it disregards soft-compats

[spring shard]

but what 0.7.0 weathers have to do with it then lmao (I know you don't know)

[fallen steppe]

It don't

[balmy orchid]

Is the issue on LethalElements or the new method in WR though?

I'm inclined to believe LE tbh

[fallen steppe]

Actually

https://github.com/v0xx-dev/VoxxWeatherPlugin/blob/main/VoxxWeatherPlugin/src/VoxxWeatherPlugin.cs#L127

I have mine in a try/catch specifically due to soft dependencies

https://github.com/pacoito123/LC_itolib/blob/main/itolib/Plugin.cs#L82

Probably related

[balmy orchid]

Why is LethalElements using GetTypes reflection shit?

Ffs

[fallen steppe]

Netcode patching requires it

[green walrus]

yeah, try-catching that is the trick

the thing is

does it need to netcode patch

[fallen steppe]

Ye

[green walrus]

and is there a better way

because that's netcode patching during runtime - is this any different from doing this during compile?

[fallen steppe]

Solar Flare interacts with a bunch of stuff for instance

[green walrus]

aaaaahhhhhhhhh

fair

[balmy orchid]

Tbh I have Solar Flare disabled and it still errors so it could be nice for it to simply not load stuff if you disable weathers in it's config

Solar Flare is too buggy

It's cool but buggy

[fallen steppe]

It do just be for https://github.com/EvaisaDev/UnityNetcodePatcher?tab=readme-ov-file#preparing-mods-for-patching

To make RPC methods easier to read/parse (in code)

[balmy orchid]

I do wonder if there's a better way to netcode patch things to not need to use GetTypes cus that is what causes those annoying HarmonyX warnings

[fallen steppe]

Also I just realized it says

If you have soft dependencies of some kind, you might need to wrap this in a try catch block.

Lol

[balmy orchid]

So maybe @cinder ore could update their LE patch to fix it?

[fallen steppe]

Uhhhhhh maybe?

[maiden shard]

He wants to contact you about the cruiser's extended warranty.

[fallen steppe]

Could overwrite the original thing I guess lol

[balmy orchid]

Yeah

[fallen steppe]

Sorta maybe

Might be fucky

Hmm

[balmy orchid]

The mod is abandoned at this point, is it licensed?

[fallen steppe]

https://github.com/v0xx-dev/VoxxWeatherPlugin/blob/main/LICENSE

[balmy orchid]

Hmmmm

So I take it it can't be forked and reuploaded with fixes? Idk too much about Creative Commons

But I know I've not seen the best things said about it

[fallen steppe]

It can

That specific license ain't restrictive really

[balmy orchid]

Okay okay

[fallen steppe]

[balmy orchid]

[spring shard]

[green walrus]

does this mean you've fixed it? 🥺

[cinder ore]

I was summoned? Did Pacoito already fix it? I just woke up where am I?

[spring shard]

Yes. We don't know. You're on discord.

[random mirage]

[balmy orchid]

pacoito is working on forking and reuploading a fixed version yeah, he fixed the issue and also fixed Toxic Smog by recomping the mod, I told him about your Snowfall patch that needs implemented and I also told him about the blacklist not working

[cinder ore]

If he recompiled the mod my snowfall patch should also be irrelevant too. It called the same vanilla game function that toxic smog did so the recompile should resolve it too.

If he uploads a fixed version I’ll swap the dependency of my patch mod to use his and deprecate mine so anyone using it’ll get swapped over.

Unless that causes problems having both LE versions installed? But people should be able to figure out to delete the old and I’d probably put something in the README anyway

[balmy orchid]

Ahhhh okay

[upbeat horizon]

If I end up making another Weather, I'm adding the funny black square of death.

[urban folio]

Pls

[obtuse heron]

Dark Fountain weather.
the sky runs black. a large smoky geyser erupting from a random spot on the map.
landscape colors are more saturated

[rocky rune]

Was using Lethal Quantities to set interior weights and was wondering, what's the difference is between GrayApartmentsFlow and GrayApartmentsFlowZ?

[hard sorrel]

Z is for the moon zeranos and you shouldnt use it outside of it

[upbeat horizon]

👆

[rocky rune]

alr ty, ily

[hard sorrel]

bro fell in love with me for explaining what flowZ is

crazy world

also i had this happen earlier

[cinder ore]

Tsk tsk tsk

Has someone not been taking their meds?

[spring shard]

Or they ended so they're basically empty

[urban folio]

[upbeat horizon]

[spring shard]

It's YOUR fault?

[upbeat horizon]

That I put that there?

[spring shard]

Y-yes.

[random mirage]

maaaybe

[upbeat horizon]

1.1.0 Black Fog Weather

• ItoLib is now a dependency.
• Staring at them induces a fear effect.

[fallow quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/votv-voices-of-the-void-kerfur-bug-gif-16800286445154947499

[upbeat horizon]

Kerfus my beloved

[fallow quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/kerfus-votv-voices-of-the-void-gif-18186635498462135105

[urban folio]

what is THAT

[honest hare]

i hate fog but this is starting to sound very interesting actualy

[upbeat horizon]

your best friend in trying times

[spring shard]

This... is kerfuś

https://tenor.com/view/kerfuś-gif-26972177

[urban folio]

ooohh yeah a restaurant i usually go has one of them!

its weird

[upbeat horizon]

Meow!

[native folio]

Meow meow!

[hard sorrel]

@upbeat horizon

[upbeat horizon]

what am I looking at here

[hard sorrel]

its one of the window lights

[upbeat horizon]

🤔

what tile is this

[hard sorrel]

pretty sure its apparatus room with window

and it generated next to that large room with the stairs

[chrome lark]

what interior is that?

[urban folio]

gray apartments i think

[hard sorrel]

correct

[random mirage]

-# t-them?

[latent stag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1210465879880638484/1402325673862893720/convert.gif

[upbeat horizon]

somebody posed the question in a thread I've forgotten the location of why there isn't just a cave interior. So I'm making a cave interior. I want to emphasize it is not a mine.

[cinder ore]

https://tenor.com/view/seagull-pixar-seagulls-ocean-gif-996698667031947568

[chrome lark]

Another peak interior by DemonMae

[royal stump]

This looks fire! Is it gonna have variants too?

[upbeat horizon]

yes

[royal stump]

Awesome! I can't wait to see what you're cooking up

[urban folio]

yippee!!! mine interior!!!

[royal stump]

It's a cave

[cinder ore]

https://tenor.com/view/mine-finding-nemo-mine-mine-mine-thats-mine-lulugifs-gif-20827668

[maiden shard]

Finally, more of an incentive to play Caves.

I wonder if Atlass Abyss would be a good pick for it, too.
Maybe Infernis or Lecaro too, judging by the lava.
And Zenith if an ice variant is planned 👀

[spring shard]

Polarus 🤤

[urban folio]

Trite 🔥 🔥 🔥

[spring shard]

having a real volcano inside the building is... something else

truly

[spring shard]

also when I saw the new interior, it gave me a feeling of the last level from chapter 4 of dark deception
it reminds me of that, but orange (naturally) instead of purple/green

[upbeat horizon]

Purple and Green?

so like this or something

[spring shard]

yeah, sort of

[urban folio]

Trueee

I kinda see it too

[maiden shard]

Gold Watchers Manor interior when

[obtuse heron]

crystal scraps, please and thank you

[hard sorrel]

add granny

[languid crest]

give me garten of babnabn

[upbeat horizon]

I wouldn't touch Garten games with a 50 foot pole

[urban folio]

Based

[steady flower]

Meanwhile the Forest Keepers be looking like:

[urban folio]

😭

[chrome lark]

Yooo it's the Korest Feeper!!

[restive torrent]

the clorest surgeeper

[bitter vigil]

can the binocular item spawn on ultimatum?

[upbeat horizon]

None of my moons spawn unused items

[upbeat horizon]

This image fills me with violent bloodlust

[urban folio]

Bloodlust??

https://tenor.com/view/gdloops-gd-geometry-dash-bloodlust-corridor-gif-16630050615672352

[upbeat horizon]

may or may not be influenced by the Azure weald

[urban folio]

if there is a lush cave i will scream

[upbeat horizon]

this is the lush cave

[hard sorrel]

add a stupid cave that makes you stupid when you enter it

[upbeat horizon]

if this is a reference to something I don't get it

[hard sorrel]

it isnt its just a joke

[upbeat horizon]

o

[urban folio]

i mean yeah it looks like one hehe, i was thinking more of lush cave from minecraft

with lots of green!!

and and

water!

and and

cheese!

oh wait no not that one

[upbeat horizon]

Cheese cave reskin incoming

[urban folio]

gorgonzola caves hehehe

[spring shard]

add a bald cave that makes you bald when you enter it

I'm refering to @untold bridge

[royal stump]

Honestly this looks like it could even work with the Haunted/Argon tag because of the purple. It reminds me of the Chizra Temple.

[dapper wadi]

you say this and suddenly the reskins are endless

except Dense Biozone... fuck Dense Biozone

[obtuse heron]

Psikoom Chamber of Madness (Chaotic (TV show/TCG))

my think tank (not that one) is pumpng now.

[restive torrent]

the glass in the library tile of gray apartments isn't turning off when the lights are off inside (unlike the glass in the apartment rooms)

[upbeat horizon]

What Moon are you on and settings do you have

[restive torrent]

tunere, JLL tags are on, mrovweathers blackout, sciencebird tweaks set to blackout sun + lights

[upbeat horizon]

sounds like it might be intended behaviour, the light from the windows gets turned off in blackout (Which doesn't make sense given it's meant to be light from outside) but the unlit texture should remain that way regardless of the power or weather.

Unless I'm misinterpreting what the issue is

[restive torrent]

mainly it's a mismatch

the smaller windows in the apartment rooms were blacked out correctly but that one wasn't

[hard sorrel]

Espira (Headcanon)

What once was a beautiful - mostly oceanic - moon in the Thistle Nebula, this place found residency within a few years of its discovery, being used as a space of luxuric tourist attractions and vacation spaces. It used to be thriving with transportation across water, to go from one Archipelago to the other, with various vacation homes and small towns placed amongst each, some only receiving one or a couple other houses.

One dark night, on the first Halloween day with the residency in tact; coincidentally, the constant swirling in the water from the vehicles running all over it to reach different Archipelagos for candies, it caused an awakening deep under the water, where - at the time - unknown souls were resting deep beneath the waves.

The spirits grew angered from the disturbance caused by the people, it was so much more potent on this day in comparison to any other, so the spirits retalliated and swarmed around the entire moon, causing mass calamity and taking the people down to where they once were resting.

No survivors remained, and the souls and ghouls now reign supreme across the once beautiful moon, corrupting it into a seemingly generic horror attraction. While it may seem funny that this happened on Halloween day, and the vibes can feel like a joke due to the left over decorations, be warned this place has genuine angry spirits, and landing here may be your final sights.

randomly felt like writing this

[upbeat horizon]

[spring shard]

[upbeat horizon]

Give em a smack

[hard sorrel]

ok thats enough of this server for one day

[steady flower]

I have a bit of a nitpick with Pareidolia, its fourth Fire Exit in the tunnel uses the red Fire Exit door when the others have the Main-style double doors, creating visual disharmony that bugs me. Could that Fire Exit maybe be designed to resemble the others, or there to be a config to just remove it? I did kinda like the moon having the 3 Fire Exits all clumped with Main in the complex

[maiden shard]

Having recently watched the source material The Iris is from, I wonder what a Hestia/Kaldu moon would be like.

[upbeat horizon]

idk the fire exit in the tunnel isn't within the bounds of the Facilities where the rest of the Matching Fire Exits are, so it seems fitting enough. Don't think a config option can even remove and reduce the amount of Fire exits

[upbeat horizon]

are those the Moons orbiting the Iris?

or are they from elsewhere

[urban folio]

Looks like a cave interior that it strictly isnt a Mine interior and that is currently being made by DemonMae

Looks cool!!

[obtuse heron]

shrooooom

[steady flower]

Dopadream was able to do it for RebalancedMoons, though I am not super knowledgeable on it

[urban folio]

questionnnnnnnn why does black fog only happen till 3pm?

[upbeat horizon]

The event it's based off only lasts for a few ingame hours in VOTV, It ending at 3PM in Lethal was arbitrary. I think it lasts for 4-5 minutes of realtime and that's just how it lined up

[maiden shard]

They are (fictional; well, Hestia exists but isn't a moon and Kaldu is made up) moons and part of the First Cluster that the Crusader probe photographs while traveling to the Iris, beyond Neptune's orbit.

Kaldu has half of itself cleanly shaven off, with tendrils going either to or from Hestia and linking the two planets together.

[upbeat horizon]

I seee, TBH I kinda forget about that part of the video because of the parts inside the Iris.

[maiden shard]

Yeah xD Makes sense.

Imo that was the most striking, it was like a threshold between a few oddities and full-on this is wrong.

[upbeat horizon]

could maybe try making a moon of them someday maybe, might make for some striking exterior visuals, especially if the Iris is watching you all the while.

[maiden shard]

Would be cool indeed!

[hard sorrel]

He is watching.

[vale pumice]

holy shit Gemini expansion would actually be insane

[maiden shard]

Gardener plushie scrap.

[upbeat horizon]

1.4.3 DULL

Gray Apartments v1.5.1

• Extended the bounds of the Power station room to prevent accidental light bleed.
• Fixed the positions of the Lights in the Main Entrance room, They were obnoxiously uneven and I don't know how I kept missing it.

[hard sorrel]

but it was funny (the screenshot i sent) :(

[urban folio]

black fog can spawn in company moons!?

😮

[upbeat horizon]

it can?

[urban folio]

yeah hehe

[honest hare]

Sounds cool tho

[urban folio]

I mean it's mostly visual so not really a problem haha

[maiden shard]

"Mostly"
What do you mean mostly

[urban folio]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-scared-k9-fart-scareddog-gif-14537612050254609887

[upbeat horizon]

The Rocks are silent because the Trees are Listening

[upbeat horizon]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/DemonMae/Silence_moon/

[urban folio]

[obtuse heron]

oofers. icon will have to be tomorrow

[balmy orchid]

This looks cool

[spring shard]

Not the fuckin lone listener the moon

[urban folio]

Such an amazing hazard in such an amazing moon

[upbeat horizon]

you wish

[spring shard]

Nah

[spring shard]

It's either mrov, demonmae, or the company, galetry and oxyde aren't filtered out

It's funny to see 50/50 moons from weathertweaks that affects galetry and then you see... none or.... snowfall+majoramoon

[steady flower]

Hyx wants to know your location

[spring shard]

Is the moon with a special gimmick? Or just filled with brackens?

[steady flower]

Just checked out the moon for myself, a very interesting and unique idea. The moon was not scary for me per se, but definitely atmospheric and a bit eerie. The only issues I saw were that the Main Entrance scan node was useless since it only picked up when you were right in front of the door, and the wind effect persisted while in the facility (which does generate a cool effect, though I doubt this is intentional). The scrap pool is clever and not having to crouch around Dogs is a nice chance, well done

[green walrus]

what's inside the level filters? is it Gordion or Company? 🥺

[languid crest]

||a s rank free moon..?||

https://tenor.com/view/homer-simpson-simpsons-the-simpsons-scary-gif-6382225295895828491

[hard sorrel]

penumbra in my mod pack:

[urban folio]

Company

[green walrus]

so it's targetting all company moons

wah

[urban folio]

Yes hehehheuejyeueuhe

I mean its not bad, it just happens a lot, is like 50% or more of the times

[spring shard]

literally my solopack's penumbra
but costs 2k

[upbeat horizon]

I mean the weather doesn't have elements that kill, and it's meant to be spooky so it's not entirely bad innit

[obtuse heron]

surprised Silence isnt part of Nightmare Moons, given the dread it instills

(have yet to try it. @ work)

[urban folio]

I remember it still having issues, i mean Blue also just changes the color, but it bugged the company moons in their entirety

[upbeat horizon]

Silence is more about tension building and suspense than being explicitly scary, difference in tone and approach

[obtuse heron]

hmm, arite

[spring shard]

sounds similiar to tr*te enough
pls asterix in between next time

[obtuse heron]

trite.

[spring shard]

[urban folio]

Today is trite day!!!!

I hope i have a good quota

[fallow quartz]

The noise enjoyers when the silent moon meterializes:

[obtuse heron]

nothin to say. it'd break the moon's namesake 🙂

[urban folio]

shhhhh

[upbeat horizon]

Nice

[steady flower]

I quite like the moon’s first icon, but this one is darn good too. Great color gradient, probably one of my favorite BBA icons

[obtuse heron]

icons are always optional. never will i say "hey, you should TOTALLY use this instead of the one you got"

[hard sorrel]

its the wesley influence

probably

[steady flower]

I mean they are just plain good too

[obtuse heron]

wes keeps his as simple as possible. i always find myself getting artsy with em

[steady flower]

I do like how you incorporate the features of the moon into the icon. I see other moon mods and the icon is just a blue or green sphere, how creative

[obtuse heron]

been likin what @vale pumice 's been using for theirs. they have a stroke of whimsey while also getting the general landscape and gimmicks across

[urban folio]

will black fog get weather + weather update?? :3

[upbeat horizon]

what is weather + Weather

[urban folio]

so basically weather tweaks (the other mod by mrov) has multiple weather shenanigans, one of them is weather + weather, where you can have multiple weathers at the same time

so for example Stormy + Rainy

or Eclipsed + blizzard

it can be multiple ones too like Stormy + Rainy + Flooded + Eclipsed

mrov said that if you are a weather dev you can make your own weather + weather, and you can also have special names for it

zigzag made a Majora Superstorm (Majora + Stormy + Rainy + Tornado)

and i feel Black Fog could have a few ones too, mostly things like black fog + blackout, or blizzard, or solar flare

they would work really well!

[upbeat horizon]

I thought those applied automatically

[urban folio]

nope, you have to manually make them!

you dont have to if you dont wanna, but i think it would be pretty neat!

specially with blackout hehe

[upbeat horizon]

If I can figure it out I'll put compat in it but no promises if and when

[urban folio]

oki!! ty anyways haha

[upbeat horizon]

Blue + Black Fog

[urban folio]

yeah i also thought of that haha but idk if it would work

[upbeat horizon]

That cave interior feels like it's in a releasable state but it feels like it needs a bit more of something. Probably will be finished in 1-10 days. Or more, we'll see

[spring shard]

seichi-ahh delays
looking forward

[royal stump]

[upbeat horizon]

Contains elements of the first icon but with Pepsimans moon icon

1.0.1 Silence

• Changed the mod icon to one made by BBAPepsiman.
• Fixed the Main Entrance node position.
• Fixed an Navmesh off link not connecting to the ship.
• Fixed the dropship floating in the air.

[balmy orchid]

Fixed but never forgotten

[upbeat horizon]

I found that out looking at your Vod lol

[balmy orchid]

Haha

[upbeat horizon]

Adjectivenounnumber brought attention to the scan node and I discovered the navmesh link myself when doing a quick patch

[willow wasp]

Hello, here is a little gift for you 😊

  new CombinedWeatherType(
    "Stormy + Rainy",
    [new WeatherTypeResolvable(LevelWeatherType.Stormy), new WeatherTypeResolvable(LevelWeatherType.Rainy)]
  );

You only need to instantiate a new CombinedWeatherType and thats it, Weather registery handles everything else ! You can choose whatever name you want and add any weathers you want even modded ones
You can get a modded weather with this for example

new WeatherNameResolvable("majoramoon")

More examples : https://github.com/AndreyMrovol/LethalWeatherTweaks/blob/main/WeatherTweaks/Init.cs

[urban folio]

https://medal.tv/es/games/lethal-company/clips/l0J5sPOlS9Nclm4Ap?invite=cr-MSxWaDcsNDI1OTMzMzU0&v=60
mmmmmmmmmmm cogg

[royal stump]

The flying landmine of fear and destruction

[steady flower]

Looks like a UFO with this lighting

[royal stump]

It does now that you mention it, lmao.

UFO enemy would be something

[hard sorrel]

the

also the

[upbeat horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/deus-ex-jc-denton-jc-denton-gif-7999346114093055501

[hard sorrel]

ignore top right it was for funny

[thorn crescent]

Sky puppy eat nanana is now your official avatar in my mind

[hard sorrel]

https://tenor.com/view/ga-ga-smash-smash-ga-game-ga-smash-bros-caption-ga-gif-26154990

[spring shard]

sky puppy eat nanana

[cinder ore]

Somehow I read it as “sky puppy eat navmesh” and I have no idea why 😭

sky puppy eat nanana

[hard sorrel]

a simple edit will make it work

[royal stump]

I found some incompatibility with, i think CustomEmotesAPI from what the logs show? Whenever the black fog mod installed, if i try to access the terminal it would zoom in slightly and then get stuck like in the screenshot. I can press ESC and move again but i can't access the terminal again or use modded emotes from what i tested. I have literally no idea how or why those two mods would clash but i thought i leave it here since it only happens if black fog is installed.

[upbeat horizon]

if you haven't already, you should check with CustomEmotesAPI devs, this mod has no custom code outsideof it's dependencies

[tawny spindle]

I've been on and off trying to figure out the why of this problem, but a few random mods seem to cause emotesAPI to force load LethalVRM + ModelReplacementAPI patches even when said mods aren't present. In lieu of a real solution, having LethalVRM + ModelReplacementAPI present seems to fix it (since the forced loading doesn't cause issues)

and it's not as simple as "mod A does it" since it seems to only happen when sets of mods are installed

[royal stump]

Hmmm, that's strange. I will try that later then i think and see if having those two mods will fix it.

[upbeat horizon]

needless to say, the cavern interior is being delayed sort of, I started working on something fun and will just be releasing both at the same time

[balmy orchid]

[spring shard]

I completely understand you
it's fun to do things you came with an idea all of a sudden and which feels fun to do, rather than things you should do but doesn't feel that fun

[royal stump]

Well Mae did not say he doesn't have fun with the cave interior but you know, sometimes you get sudden ideas and wanna work on those instead

[spring shard]

Does it matter if they said it or not?
It matters how mae feels it
I just assumed it was enjoying to work on cave interior until certain point

[royal stump]

And i didn't imply anything else, mods are free and if the modder doesn't enjoy working on something then they are not obligated to do so.

[balmy orchid]

This is an issue some mods have had due to soft dependencies not properly being setup, you probably just need to go through and see what's setup incorrectly

Yeah I just checked the errors that throw, it's due to soft deps not being correctly setup

[tawny spindle]

Right, I understand that, but the problem is it works fine in 90% of setups, and I'm pretty sure 90% of people don't have LethalVRM installed.

I forgot to come back to all this, I've got another idea I'll try later today, but no promises since as far as I'm aware, the current setup is valid

[hard sorrel]

i love the gay apartmen

[steady flower]

The gayest it ever was

[spring shard]

[upbeat horizon]

Nightmare moon update is real and it is coming

[balmy orchid]

Excited for it

[obtuse heron]

inspired by The Thing?

[upbeat horizon]

All the new moons are vaguely inspired by a few horror movies

This one The Thing inspired yes

[obtuse heron]

wicked

[steady flower]

So the pack will have more IP-inspired moons than just The Iris?

[upbeat horizon]

Maybe, I've been considering making one of the Iris's moons as a kind of bonus expansion

[steady flower]

I do like it as the current 4 moon pack if I say so

Extra Iris moon would be interesting though

[maiden shard]

Hestia/Kadlu moon ftw

[upbeat horizon]

1.1.1 Black Fog Weather

• Company moons should be blacklisted by default.

[willow wasp]

Does black fog work on company moon if i removed it from the blacklist (thus forcing it to spawn) ?

[upbeat horizon]

It worked before, so if you remove it now it'll generate there I think\

I think some people said it causes problems though if you do

[willow wasp]

I assume it shouldnt be incompatible, the only issue i can see is that if the Black fog event appear and disapear based on the moon actual time clock then it will not work on company moons

Otherwise should be fine

Ill let you know

[upbeat horizon]

Black fogs event isn't based on moon time if that matters, it operates on its own timing

[hard sorrel]

pwetty

[robust glade]

It would be cool if one day kaleidos could get its own custom interior centered around everything being either made of clay or being clay adjacent like the manufacture of it or claymation studios. Idk.

[halcyon chasm]

Hello! sorry for pinging
It seems there are spots through the walll that can spawn keys on the studio. (not sure if scrap can spawn there too)
It was in the middle room in the 3 room tile

[robust glade]

I've noticed a few times in vanilla when I have the "scan through walls" mod that sometimes scrap just spawns outside of the wall in the out of bounds area for whatever reason. Could just be a byproduct of that essentially.

[cinder ore]

Scrap spawns around certain nodes and on navmesh so if there’s a floor beyond the wall and a node not far, it’s possible it spawned on the navmesh out there.

[cinder ore]

Keys I think use AI nodes and not the scrap ones, so unless scrap can spawn in that area then probably not? Idk, might be wrong. It’s been too long since I worked on my mods :(

[hard sorrel]

you are correct that is how it works

its also a part of why mineshafts are stupid imo

because keys can spawn in the caves ai nodes, but those are marked specially as "cave nodes"

so it would be 100% possible to code keys not being able to spawn nearby them

and then the notorious effect of never having keys in mineshaft would be lessened

[upbeat horizon]

I took a look at the tiles in question to double check I didn't misplace anything, everything seems to be in order. if it's an issue that also happens regularly in vanilla interiors I'm not sure what I can do about it 🤔

[hard sorrel]

it only really happens in factory with keys specifically

the hallway shaped like _/ that i guess

idrk how to describe it

it has the middle section of the large circular shape gray brick hallway spawn behind it out of bounds

and theres still an AI node there, so keys can spawn there

[upbeat horizon]

really bad timing with this update, but...

2.4.1 Moons of Otherworldy oddity

Pandoramus Updated to V1.1.0

• Remove a lot of null references.
• Now compatible with TV World, Shattered Rooms, Tonys Fancy House, Junkrooms, Deepcore Mines, Habitat, Greenhouse, Hotel Insanity, and Midnight Sanctuary.

Kaleidos

• Barber fixes is now a dependency

[buoyant lava]

aside from the unity update 1.1.0 release version 🔥

[upbeat horizon]

yeah I switched those by accident, it's fixed in my files

[robust glade]

How'd that happen? ||Also Will kaleidos ever get an interior of it's own?||

[upbeat horizon]

I'm scatter brained and things just happen like that sometimes. And maaaaaaybe, sortof

[robust glade]

Nah I feel that. It's a miracle that my own brain functions at any given point.

Also hell

YES

[hard sorrel]

got the VotV painting

[upbeat horizon]

fun fact I took that picture in game

I think it's Romeo

[upbeat horizon]

is this on V72 or V73 by the way

[hard sorrel]

v72

[upbeat horizon]

Bad news bears, opened my project in the new unity project and I cannot understate how turbo fucked everything is

If I can;t find a straightforward solution, the current versions of anything I've posted will be the only version for probably a while

[obtuse heron]

o7

[vale pumice]

oh god please tell me you got backups

[fallen steppe]

trollIncident

[steel gust]

suffering

oh it's bleak...

[random mirage]

https://tenor.com/view/bleak-it's-bleak-shaking-head-its-bleak-black-and-white-gif-9592734580409210082

[steady flower]

[obtuse heron]

thanks, unity.

[upbeat horizon]

I do have backups but they're god knows how old. Currently got NGtools working it's magic

[obtuse heron]

take all the time ya need, fren

[upbeat horizon]

not ideal

lol forgot about this

alright soo

I was planning on an update for Nightmare moons

that is kinda out the window now

[robust glade]

That's stupid and awful. I'm sorry you have to deal with unity's dog shit. 🥺

[upbeat horizon]

but I do have built versions 2 of the 3 moons I was working on, and the cave interior

I'm going to test the moons real quick to make sure they at least sorta work and I'm going to upload them

better than to just sit on them

[robust glade]

I hope it's all at least salvageable and that you don't have to like recreate literally everything.

[upbeat horizon]

Recreating things is the worst case scenario, I probably just need to wait until nomnoms project patcher is updated, because NGTools is half working

it's not the end of the world either because if Realestudios can port old moons then there is a way to recover things surely

[robust glade]

There definitely is, I refuse to believe there isn't. I just hope it isn't painful and complicated.

[fallen steppe]

I reconstructed Bozo in a cave with a box of scraps

It do be very tedious though, but manageable if you take your time

[upbeat horizon]

2.3.0 Nightmare Moons

• 2 new moons, Vigilance, and Abbadon. Because of internal complications, I'm releasing these now, they are still raw and might have problems I will be unable to fix for a while.
• Flicker Updated to V1.2.3
• Lament Updated to V1.1.3
• Pareidolia Updated to V1.1.3
• Spelunkers Caverns, a new interior, is temporarily included in this update.

These are built for V72, Your experience may vary if you're trying these on V73

[obtuse heron]

v72 is perfectly fine with me, fren

[robust glade]

Possible glitches? LET'S GO GAMBLING!

-# aw dangit......

[hard sorrel]

abbadon?
like.. labodon..?

[coarse charm]

@hard sorrel released from prison

[hard sorrel]

labodon is too evil

[coarse charm]

please just send the attachments rather than linking to them

[hard sorrel]

you cant post images of it

[coarse charm]

you look like a bot when you link to existing attachments

[hard sorrel]

i see

but im gonna run with the joke anyways

[upbeat horizon]

Labubudon

[hard sorrel]

because its too funny

[upbeat horizon]

what is labodon

[urban folio]

abibabou

[upbeat horizon]

oh

[hard sorrel]

warning! dont stay on here long! labodon gets very dangerous fast! dont stay on here long.

[languid crest]

labubudon

[robust glade]

Jo Jo coded, looks sick.

......OH

Wait

I know what that is!

That's the precursor series to persona.

It was persona before it was cool or a thing. I think it translates to digital devil story? Or something...

I liked the ones on nes and snes

[short kelp]

ill say reale had one hell of a time porting the ones he did, asset ripper was lucky, for example he also wanted to port valor which by comparison to ether or vulcan was quite a simple moon but it couldnt bc if im right bc it was made with probuilder it wasnt ripping properly, tho in ether's case it was because I actually was able to get the og project file from the dev so we could use batby's converter

I do wish you good luck with the long road to v73 once it starts

bc I love your mods

[unborn warren]

damn, Mae just drop a LOT

can wait to see how thje caves play and such

[steady flower]

Are the new moons meant to be permanent additions to the pack, or are they just throw-ins for now like the Caverns?

[balmy orchid]

They're permanent

[obtuse heron]

cozy summer camp and snowy field ||horror settings||

[steady flower]

Nightmare moons does not even load in v73, guess it is time for to down patch

[balmy orchid]

It will when LLL updates, I've been running the new build that pacoito worked on in my testing profile and it works great but we're waiting on Batby to review the changes and upload it publically

[spring shard]

It's written that it's for v72 smh

[steady flower]

Cool beans

[upbeat horizon]

🔥

[upbeat horizon]

Thanks discord

[steady flower]

By the way, if anyone would like a companion moon to The Iris, Beanie did make their own flesh moon. It is not a canon Gemini moon, but works well until DemonMae makes their own

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Beaniebe/32_Viscera

[robust glade]

https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1314739636668600371

This would be perfect with it

[upbeat horizon]

Project mostly recovered through some hackery, looks like the water shader is busted though

[robust glade]

Preddy

That's fucking dope.

Almost feels like a level from quake

[maiden shard]

THIS LOOKS AMAZING WTF?!

I should really look into more M.O.O.ns (is that the term?), Lithium and Rockwell are amazing but I never looked into the other ones.

I'm a sucker for scenery-spanning skyboxes like Lithium's. It gives such a sense of scale to the exterior.

[upbeat horizon]

This moon is called Pandoramus if you're looking for it

[maiden shard]

Thank you 👍 !

[spring shard]

pandoramus is honestly one of the best moons that I'm not playing that often

[maiden shard]

Speaking of Lithium, gosh I need to play it more.
It's a wonderful moon.

[spring shard]

I have a distaste to the lithium for some reason
I can't really tell why

[upbeat horizon]

Have you seen what happens when it's eclipsed on Lithium

[spring shard]

oh? 👀

[upbeat horizon]

Is it the old birds

[maiden shard]

Never, no 👀 ! I'm guessing the bulbs all go out.