Lethal Elements

[jolly panther]

ok, then

[small cypress]

this is something interfering with WeatherRegistry, so not a bug with this mod, however could you send the log? it won't be possible to pinpoint the cause otherwise

[small cypress]

do you have the weather option enabled in OpenBodyCams?

DisplayWeatherBasedOnPerspective

[acoustic fern]

yes

maybe that was the issue

[small cypress]

yes, that's why it broke

@somber hemlock could you please disable this for custom weathers or at least add a warning in the config that it will break, cause it's not the first report about this

[somber hemlock]

I'm pretty sure there is a warning?

[quasi quartz]

default is also false, no?

[somber hemlock]

idr for sure though

it is indeed

[small cypress]

ah ok, but in any case maybe including custom weather stuff can be a separate toogle

[somber hemlock]

I can't get to adding a block on custom weathers just yet, but I guess I could

honestly though I think I'd rather just detect weather registry and block the feature

[small cypress]

in my experience if you don't write in CAPS with !!!11 people will not take it seriously T_T
but yeah it's mostly on them

[somber hemlock]

I don't really have any intention of working on it for a while, since there's nothing I can do to fix it for custom weathers yet

[small cypress]

yeah i understand, their implementations vary too much, so i'm not sure it's possible to just create a general method covering everything at once

[somber hemlock]

imo it seems like it should be possible for my existing system to work just by asking weather registry which weathers should be enabled, but no custom weathers I know of are designed to work enough like vanilla for that to be the case in practice yet

[small cypress]

the problem in my case is by copying effectObject you risk copying a lot more than just particles - like cameras, custom passes and such

[jolly panther]

Damn, I thought it was another wr issue 🗿

[rotund agate]

should i get the beta or your main one from last year?

like is the beta the one your gonna keep up with?

[small cypress]

Beta is, well, beta... it has way more features, but it might have some bugs (however at this point they should be pretty minor) that weren't fixed yet. Personally, I think it's pretty stable, I just haven't merged it with the main yet cause I'm implementing one last feature for the frosty weathers.

[summer mist]

Marrying thr weather's? Finally

[reef blaze]

snowfall my beloved

[small cypress]

New weather effect "Love is in the air"

[summer mist]

Then spawn a new enemy called Love, its just the plague but pink

[opaque otter]

very whimsical

[shy fjord]

lasso man reskin, call it the cupid

kidnaps you à la bracken but doesnt kill you, instead it drags you to the closest player or masked near you lol

i guess if you're solo it would force a masked to spawn so it works lol

[crystal elm]

I wonder if some kind of “Wild Fires” weather would be possible or interesting

Parts of the moon would be scorched and charred (with most trees without leaves) and have areas with fire just chilling

Now that I think about it - this would just basically be the toxic smog weather but fire themed

[violet zealot]

The CodeRebirth mod is adding a “Firestorm” weather in an update soon.

The creator of the mod (Xu) accidentally released the Firestorm weather in a bug fix (iirc) update. Usually it crashes peoples games but I was accidentally on an old version of my modpack which had an old version of WeatherRegistry, which allowed the weather to work. Unsure if I should mention what it did since it’s unreleased content, but it didn’t have any cool effects or anything yet since it’s heavily unfinished.

Not entirely what you’re asking about, but I’m quite excited about it since CodeRebirth is quite a great mod, I’m sure they’ll make the weather something fun.

[blazing slate]

Question about the Heatwave: Does the reverb trigger area also require having some sort of roof? Certain parts in an area I have are still getting the heatstroke effect despite being in the trigger with inside lighting, and those parts happen do be the high ceiling area, while the low ceiling areas are not giving the heatstroke effect

[small cypress]

These are the conditions for stopping heatwave effects: https://github.com/v0xx-dev/VoxxWeatherPlugin/blob/76f55d79a53a67cffd9c12815e72e8612eee52f8/VoxxWeatherPlugin/src/Patches/HeatwavePatches.cs#L81

Maybe there's another reverb trigger conflicting with yours? Cause I only check the most recent one that was set in PlayerControllerB

[brittle rain]

Are this the conditions?

I dont know code

[vital lotus]

From my experience, the "Enemy spawn blacklist" doesn't seem to work
I am still having Bees spawn during Snowfall/Blizzard along with other things
The way they are typed is even identical to the config default value

i am gonna assume it might be that later invalid entries cause the whole thing to not work?

[ancient breach]

Hi, for some reason, the blizzard effect stays on after leaving a moon with a blizzard

Also the blizzard is extremely bright during the morning on Hydro (possibly other moons), though I forgot to record it

[wise mirage]

Holy crap, your game runs insanely smooth lmao

[brittle rain]

a trillion billion fps

[reef blaze]

What moon is that in the second one (also infinite fps holy shit)

[fallow ginkgo]

generic moons' collateral

[scarlet mango]

yeah that seems really smooth. Like, the game runs ok but I feel like I still stutter sometimes.

[brittle rain]

that happened to me aswell

[fleet juniper]

maybe it works if you use "Use volumetric blizzard fog" instead of "Use particle blizzard fog" in the mods config under snow graphics

[fallow ginkgo]

im surprised it runs like that on collateral of all moons cuz witha lot of generic's moons I tend to lag a lot when looking at certain spots

crazy stuff

[small cypress]

this doesn't seem to be the case when i test with just this mod and imperium, might be that some config mods change the spawn conditions? idk for sure, i just set the flag "canSpawn" to false on the EnemyType temporarily and vanilla spawning system respects that, might also be the name comparison acting up but can't test rn

[small cypress]

unfortunately i cannot help without any logs AND the modpack code. the only possibility off the top of my head is that if you enable experimental weather setting in OpenBodyCams this will happen 100%

[small cypress]

this is just hydro being hydro, i guess, something is going on there and I also have an increased brightness even during normal weather

[vital lotus]

I use LQ to handle the spawns of enemies

So i guess it might be that then

[ancient breach]

Yes it was bodycams

Disabling the experimetnal feature fixed it

[small cypress]

phew, i was afraid something went totally wrong

[ancient breach]

Nahh it's good

Still don't know why the blizzard is super bright tho

Im gonna try testing some other moons to see if it's just Hydro

[faint venture]

I just tried this mod (the beta) the other day, and must say this is already one of my new favorites. Hot damn. I'm legitimately amazed at how snowfall and blizzard works.

[brittle rain]

question does solar flare drain the battery of electronic devices even when they are off?

[quasi quartz]

yes

[brittle rain]

that explains a lot thank you

[blazing slate]

March blizzard frozen water extends out by the Fire exit near main

[scarlet mango]

Probably just how the vanilla water’s set up. I think the ice material just replaces the vanilla water’s material, which might just be lower down slightly due to how its shader is set up. Not certain but from my testing on one of my moons this is how it seems to be.

[brittle rain]

Is it fixable?

Can lethal elements fix it? Or is it in the moon end

[scarlet mango]

I’d say it’s more on the moons end

[violet zealot]

Definitely the moon makers fault. Whoever made march should fix that smh

[small cypress]

it is, but in short - it's very hard, maybe it will be addressed once i implement ice breaking, but i'm currently very busy with work so can't give a timeline

[still owl]

I could at least fix it on my end

for ppl who use rbm

im gonna look into that rq

[brittle rain]

Whats rbm?

[still owl]

rebalancedmoons

yup @blazing slate

sniper was pretty much exactly right

the water shader is just lower so you cant notice it ingame

im gonna modify it so it only takes up the space it needs to

[brittle rain]

Oh i was just reading about that! I want to check it out, does it have compat issues with other mods??

[still owl]

not that i know of, maybe tonightwedine

[blazing slate]

the water just needs to be moved like -2 on the x axis

[still owl]

yeah but like

[brittle rain]

Okok ty!

[still owl]

its just way unnecessarily big

it takes up a lot more space than it needs to

like there is no reason for the game to be rendering all that water

[blazing slate]

Makes me think that the fire exit was intended to be underwater

[still owl]

i just did this

[summer mist]

I dont think there's actually much of a rendering cost since its a plane and that part you're not seeing or rendering anyway, but I hate it when moons have huge water colliders for no reason

[still owl]

oh i didnt mean performance wise

like its just unnecessary

there no reason for it

[summer mist]

Oh yeah 100%

[still owl]

the other water planes on the map are properly sized

its just the one in the middle thats rlly weird

[brittle rain]

Is this not gonna affect flooded?

[still owl]

nah

thats a different water object

[brittle rain]

Okok

[blazing slate]

It's large enough that if moved over it covers the fire exit perfectly, so I'm pretty sure that was the original design & then zeekers decided against it

[still owl]

weird af tho lol bc you drown in seconds

but yeah i kinda see that

[brittle rain]

10 seconds 🤓

[still owl]

huh

i suppose that is long enough to go there and back..?

prolly super annoying though

bc if it was flooded it would look like this

[brittle rain]

With the speed debuff idonthink is possible

Is like flooded march

[still owl]

so uhh

what happens if u get stuck here

lol

am i gonna have to add a way to get out

😭

[torn arrow]

scream for extension ladder

[brittle rain]

I think the same if it was just water

[still owl]

if it was water you drown

and die

i took 20 damage for some reason but now im just stuck

[brittle rain]

Yeah, without the drowning thing

It would be better to just have a way to die in there, more than a eay to get out

Coz to get out you can grab an extension ladder or smth

[still owl]

idk how i would add a way to die when theres ice

[brittle rain]

You can have a friend throw you an extension ladder

[torn arrow]

imagine not having a jetpack/ladder

[brittle rain]

Skill issue

[torn arrow]

truely, a skill issue diagnosis

https://tenor.com/view/diagnosis-skill-issue-diagnosis-skill-issue-draker-discord-gif-22231351

[brittle rain]

I just use the ultimate extension ladder

So i can get out of there and out the entire map too

[torn arrow]

bruh

[blazing slate]

I'm pretty sure you take freezing damage over time

[brittle rain]

Really? Im not so sure

[still owl]

i stood there for like 10 minutes and only occasionally took intervals of 20 damage from what i assume were avalanches? they were followed by loud rumbling sounds so

i dont think you take freezing damage

[brittle rain]

Yeah thats the blizzard thing

[brittle rain]

In freezed water no ionthinkso

Was running on bozoros freezed water and never got hurted

I got scared wirh the ice moving but didnt get hurt by it

[small cypress]

the idea is either extension ladders or teleporters, but if u r playing solo... yeah

ice will crack in the future so there will be a way to die eventually

[quasi quartz]

what happened to frostbite

[small cypress]

this is from the chilling waves, the may not be very visible due to the fog colliding with the cliff

[small cypress]

nothing it's still there

[still owl]

i noticed the blizzard volumetrics also jitter a ton when you're walking around

whats up w/ that

[small cypress]

there is a setting for collision camera fps

you need to set it to something higher

[still owl]

ah

but i assume it hurts

[small cypress]

the current default value is not ideal

[still owl]

o

[small cypress]

not much

it only renders depth so should be ok

i think 20 to 30 should be enough for every case

[quasi quartz]

You can't die to Frostbite like for situations like being stuck in the March lake?

Is it the health regen when <20

[small cypress]

yup, it's faster than frostbite

[fallow ginkgo]

pretty little water worm RIGHT under the bridge... :3c

[fallow ginkgo]

yeah no kidding 😏

[fallow ginkgo]

this is probably why ice breaking is gonna be implemented

[scarlet mango]

Couldn’t be me. I’d never have absolutely massive colliders

[sick ridge]

@small cypress so if you leave a lobby during Blizzard Weather Lethal Elements explodes

started spamming this every frame

[dapper glen]

did you happen to notice if it keeps playing the blizzard wind audio in the menu

[sick ridge]

It did yes

[dapper glen]

ok

i was trying out mantif a few days ago and that happened to me, at first i thought it was a mantif problem but i guess it isn't

[sick ridge]

Nah it's a Lethal Elements bug if you leave while on the planet during Blizzard it seems

[dapper glen]

yea you just said that

[sick ridge]

I had it happen while on Sector

Lol

[dapper glen]

i happened to get it while testing mantif and thought it was mantif since its old and apparently buggy

but it is just an elements bug i suppose

[small cypress]

Is this while being in the menu? This implies that Weather Registry didn't disable the weather for some reason (and I cannot control that)

This should also happen with Snowfall, they use the same logic

[small cypress]

Could you please send the entire log?

[small cypress]

@cold dragon I'm gonna ping you just in case, the error propagates from here: https://github.com/v0xx-dev/VoxxWeatherPlugin/blob/0e867b00efea4a9ece8809678fa64fe0605ce52d/VoxxWeatherPlugin/src/Behaviours/Weathers/SnowfallWeather.cs#L137

It seems like the effectObject didn't get properly disabled by registry for some reason?

[brittle rain]

Yeah the outside scrap is not working correctly and idk if it is a feature but there is no drop ship

[scarlet mango]

Probably needs CompanyCruiserFix

[brittle rain]

What

Why

Idk what companycruiserfix does so im a bit lost

[scarlet mango]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/DiFFoZ/CompanyCruiserFix/

it’s deprecated just because it’s no longer maintained and most moons no longer need it, but it still works. When the cruiser was added to the game the dropship had to change to allow the delivery which meant moon makers had to update the dropship on their end. This mod was a bandaid fix for while moon devs were updating their stuff.

Without this mod if that moon’s last update was pre-cruiser it’s likely throwing a bunch of errors and the ship just doesn’t work at all.

[brittle rain]

Oh okok

Yeah when i tried buying things from the store the drop ship wouldnt even come

And if a day passed and i changed the moon then it would finally gave me the items

[dreamy kettle]

Is there any reason not to have this mod installed prophylactically? Like a downside other than its filesize/loadtimes?

[dapper glen]

There is no downside to it being installed

Since it won't run if the moon is setup correctly for cruiser

It only activates for ones that have the cruiser issue

[fallow ginkgo]

yeah there's no reason not to have it even though most updated moons don't need it

[dapper glen]

Tbh even though it's so lightweight and nonintrusive I don't like having it installed because it means there is something in my profile that hasn't been updated in a long time

[night widget]

i haven't seen a single popular moon recently that hasn't been updated since v55

zero reason to have it

[brittle rain]

Offense

[dapper glen]

there are some that i like that were made by people who aren't really around anymore

like mantif and aerona

i really like those two but they havent been updated in a loooong time

[violet zealot]

I like EveM

And that requires the fix

[fallow ginkgo]

crest 😔

[covert shadow]

Toilation, transmission, bomenoren still need it iirc

[dapper glen]

aw man

transmission was one of my favorites for vanilla+

[green sleet]

Oh the icy lake that can break is not official™, I prevent the water from freezing normally and replace it specifically during Snowfall

Frozen water during Blizzard's untouched, so that one should hurt

[fallow ginkgo]

i mean outside of the small nitpick of the mod not being udated for a bit it shouldn't be too bad to have cruiserfix in there

esp since transmission has no tree spawns iirc?

[dapper glen]

transmission had a loading time problem

it always took a really long time for it to load

it was kinda like titan in that case

[fallow ginkgo]

oh fr?

I never noticed i guess, it's beena bit

[dapper glen]

couldve been a huge dungeon generation

since it was more expensive than titan and had more dangerous spawns

i would assume its multiplier was like 2.4 or something

[still owl]

i have the project file for transmission

things are just kind of awkward right now and idk what to do with it

not only that but its super unoptimized (no blank references, probably no texture compression either) and i cba'd to go through it right now anyways

[dapper glen]

i figured it was poorly optimized

it is really old and there wasn't really as much of an emphasis on optimization

it is a little weird though cus most of its assets are similar to vanilla

[still owl]

it only uses vanilla assets yes

but LLL has stuff in it to tell the game to reference prefabs directly at runtime

so you dont have to repackage every enemy

into a moon mod

[dapper glen]

so is transmission not doing that

[still owl]

its not

[dapper glen]

i'm not really following

[still owl]

its really old

transmission was either made before LLL could do that or vye didnt know about it

[dapper glen]

yeah clearly

so it doesn

[still owl]

but they have told me directly they didnt do blank references and yes the project file just has full enemy prefabs in the selectable level

and map objects

[dapper glen]

t use referencing prefabs

oh

[still owl]

thats the only reason its almost 80mb

[dapper glen]

so in a potential re release for v69 it would have to use those blank references and probably do texture compression/mesh simplifying?

[still owl]

yeah

[dapper glen]

maybe terrameshing the terrain too

[still owl]

mesh simplifying prolly isnt too necessary

[fallow ginkgo]

vye probably didn't know about it yea

[dapper glen]

i finally got to try lunarlights' Boreal with a snow weather

it looks so good

the creek getting frozen is also really good

like there could not be a better map for this weather

[brittle rain]

even the dog is amazed!

[autumn merlin]

iirc Transmission I think first debuted around v49, ie just before Old Birds came into existence

[acoustic fern]

When will the main branch be updated

[brittle rain]

When it stops being a beta

[torn arrow]

When it stops being a beta?

[scarlet mango]

https://tenor.com/view/beta-male-sonic-hedgehog-shadow-adventure-gif-10550266455911872936

[silk cedar]

Are you gonna update it?

[torn arrow]

Tomorrow

[still owl]

probably not

idk

[fiery siren]

update tomorrow

[brittle rain]

https://tenor.com/view/update-update-is-tomorrow-gif-2143560552895271969

[sick ridge]

It'll be cool to see that moon return, I really liked it but I ran into issues when I used it

@lime acorn Remembers

He was there when the game exploded somehow from us playing on it

lol

[lime acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/pepperidge-pepperidge-farm-remembers-remember-gif-15527169458174144495

[dapper goblet]

does anyone else have a problem with the game not loading on any version more recent than v1.2.65? I just tried to run an older modpack after updating mods, and any version past that one seems to encounter a loading error when booting

[dapper glen]

nope

[dapper goblet]

might have to send a log then, I'm not sure what is causing it

[small cypress]

most likely you don't have this in your modpack for some reason:
https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/v0xx/TerraMesh/

in 1.2.65 this became a dependency

[dapper goblet]

Yeah, but 1.2.65 works, just nothing beyond it. I do have that mod, that's what's weird

[gaunt prism]

Bug in LethalElements stable.
When using BetterInverseTeleporter on a moon with heatwave, items with batteries in the inventory will still be draining after inversing with them. (Potentially an issue with similar mods as well, like LateGameUpgrades which allows you to do the same thing)
Note: I was using ReservedItemSlot mods while experiencing this, so that may or may not also be a factor.

[covert shadow]

I thought that the battery drain was constant regardless of whether you’re inside or outside, but lessened while in the interior.

[brittle rain]

idk if it is lessed while in the interior but it definitely drains the battery no matter where you are

[gaunt prism]

by default, batteries don't drain on the inside

it is a bug

[brittle rain]

oh

or maybe i havent noticed it

[indigo hollow]

Is that a War of the Worlds banner,,

[dapper glen]

what

[indigo hollow]

Looks like the Martian Cylinder from War of the Worlds

Their banner

[dapper glen]

no

it's helldivers

[indigo hollow]

Oh

Lmfao

[brittle rain]

mmm

[acoustic fern]

is there a way to blacklist weathers on certain moons?

[dapper glen]

weather registry

[small cypress]

moon name, ples

seems like their texture is not centered 😭

[brittle rain]

Sector-0!!

[fathom mountain]

Hey hi uhm. I have a suggestion/request that I haven't seen anyone else make.

Would be really nice to have a blacklist for moons that water can freeze.

[sick ridge]

@small cypress Lethal Elements is exploding on Experimentation

[sick ridge]

We found the fix for this ^^ it was some weird incompat with the Mono JIT optimizations LethalPerformance was doing and DiFFoZ pushed a patch

[acoustic fern]

Blacklist it in weatherregistry

Thats what i did for Hawalia because the outer water would freeze in this weird way

[fathom mountain]

point is some moons having blizzards and snow thematically work, but freezing of water does not

[dapper glen]

Like which

[fathom mountain]

Polarus for example with snow is peak, but having the water freeze doesn't work too well cause of the ice platforms

the water is flowing, and flowing water takes a shit ton less energy to freeze

[dapper glen]

Yeah that makes sense

I guess on maps like tauralis that are snowy but have a huge amount of water in the lower levels as well

[fathom mountain]

potentially

really the main thing is that it'll be a pain getting all moon makers to set up proper compat for Lethal Elements

so a black/whitelistfor water freezable moons would be awesome

[dapper glen]

Yea cus there are some moon makers that don't consider any other mods when doing it

[sick ridge]

@small cypress It's been bugging me but is Blizzard wind supposed to be this pixelated and ugly? I swear it used to look better

I've also been having issues where Snow doesn't like to rise a lot and idk why

[torn arrow]

Isn't that lethalsponge issue?

[sick ridge]

I have the Sponge Shader off so I don't think so

I also don't see any setting that should affect this 🤔

[sick ridge]

Also things that shouldn't spawn like bees are

Wondering if it's a bug with the updated TerraMesh

Or if I should downgrade LethalElements

[dapper glen]

What's your volumetric fog budget in sponge

[sick ridge]

I tried turning off the setting for it to mess with it and it made 0 difference

it's not sponge

[dapper glen]

I know basegame gets kinda ugly like that on foggy

So idk

Maybe turn your sponge fog budget to max and try again

[sick ridge]

I just wanna know why the fucking snow isn't rising

I'm wondering if Mrov broke something

[dapper glen]

No

Cus it's fine for me

Did you change any snow height settings

[sick ridge]

Try it on a moon like Wither or Pandoramus

it won't rise

Nope.

It refuses to rise during Blizzard

Oh wait nvm it's working now

Okay so

It was RebalancedMoons

LOL

[dapper glen]

I've gotten it on tunere and boreal

So it shouldn't be a problem

[sick ridge]

Yeah RebalancedMoons breaks it

[dapper glen]

It doesnt

[sick ridge]

I turned that off and now it works

It does

I've been sitting here testing

[dapper glen]

I use rbm it doesn't affect snow

[sick ridge]

Does for me

🤷‍♀️

[dapper glen]

Have you reported it

[sick ridge]

Disabling it is what allowed it to rise on Pandoramus

Idk about Wither

If it doesn't work on Wither something is probs broke with Wither

[dapper glen]

I feel like we had this exact conversation like 2 days ago

[sick ridge]

Maybe

In that scenario LethalPerformance was doing stuff

Wither seems to still be broken so I think it's a Wither issue

Unsure why it's not working on there

[dapper glen]

Mention it to sciencebird

[small cypress]

Quality of volumetric blizzard fog depends on collision camera resolution (not sure if that's configurable) and its FPS.
It previously used particles so that's why it looked better, if your pc can handle it you can switch back via a toggle in the config.

[small cypress]

I highly doubt it can affect this, snow accumulation speed depends on delta time, max/min height and preset min/max time of day for full snow. Snow height is interpolated linearly between minSnowH and maxSnowH in range of [0, random(minTime, maxTime)]

[sick ridge]

Ah interesting

[summer mist]

why report problems ever

sounds silly

[sick ridge]

Any idea why Bees aren't getting blacklisted properly though?

[small cypress]

Unless you use something like lethal quantities probably my bad

[fallow ginkgo]

fucking based and true?

[brittle rain]

Im also having problems with blizzard on Wither :0

There is no snow present

[dapper glen]

My bad g I'll stop

[brittle rain]

calist

wait what it fixed

[sick ridge]

I'm not using anything like that no lol

[fallow ginkgo]

I never had snowfall with earth levis active, do they delete snow as they go through the map?

[fathom mountain]

that's what we observed during our session the other day

actually quite frightening seeing the snow a few meters away getting sucked or melted away un huge swaths

[fallow ginkgo]

frrr

it's super cool

esp on foggy + snowfall

can't see shit in that LOL

but you can still see snow around you getting lower and lower it's spooky

[autumn merlin]

Kinda like those worm monster movies where stuff just gets pulled into the ground when the thing is going after someone

[dapper glen]

that one boss from pikmin 3

[azure ivy]

@small cypress If I have particle on, should volumetric be off? Or is the idea to combine them if you can run it fine.

[small cypress]

yup, they work together if your computer handles it ok

[faint venture]

Tremors?

[sick ridge]

I'll admit I've tried reenabling the particle based fog and the wind is still really low res and I feel like it's too bright as well a lot of the time, not to mention there is some wicked volumetric flickering it feels like too even if the volumetric wind effects are off

It reallly hurts my eyes nowadays to play with Blizzard weather

I sadly had to result to disabling it for now

[empty pivot]

Is there a way to blacklist Leaf Boys from Biodiversity from carving into snow, or atleast make them do it a lot less?

[autumn merlin]

If memory serves me correctly there's an option in the config that lets you outright disable listed entities from even spawning if the weather is Snow/Blizzard

Cause the only other option I think is to not let any entity make snow trails, which in turn makes the larger threats like dogs and giants be unable to make trails

Been awhile since I've messed with the config so can't tell you exactly which options those are

[acoustic fern]

Turned off blizzard wind

That was annoying

[dapper glen]

the snow on snowfall might be covering the radar text?

i don't think this is from sponge postprocessing stuff

(moon was Motra with snowfall)

[sick ridge]

It's been a known thing with Snowfall and Blizzard since LE Beta came out

No idea why it happens

[scarlet mango]

The snow is snowier than before

[sick ridge]

So I did testing, and turning on vfx for the blizzard waves fixes the horrendous light flickering during Blizzard, I'm guessing there's not a proper implementation setup for when that is off

Okay nvm it still does it on experimentation

Idk why it does it

[pale cypress]

@small cypress hey, just wanted to check in regarding something I noticed with how solar flare interacts with Two Radar Maps with Zagster helping on their end. solar flare will affect the bodycam and the main radar, but will do nothing for the extra radar that is split off into the terminal. I believe it's something you can work with on your end - when you have the time, of course \o/
#1199570032196333648 message

[acoustic fern]

voxx has been gone for like a month

[fallow ginkgo]

breaks are good

hope he's doing well

[pale cypress]

ye is no rush \o/

he makes good things and I appreciate them so I'm chill with waiting

[fallow ginkgo]

ye no shade, I just hope whatever he's up to that he's doing alright :]

[pale cypress]

mmhmm

[unreal sequoia]

ye no pressure, the important thing is that you do what you enjoy :]

[reef blaze]

[surreal prairie]

[01:08:30.2660953] [Error :voxx.LethalElementsPlugin] No ground objects to render snow on!
[01:08:30.2700938] [Error :voxx.LethalElementsPlugin] Task failed: System.AggregateException: One or more errors occurred. () ---> System.NullReferenceException
at (wrapper managed-to-native) UnityEngine.Texture2DArray.get_isReadable(UnityEngine.Texture2DArray)
at UnityEngine.Texture2DArray.Apply (System.Boolean updateMipmaps, System.Boolean makeNoLongerReadable) [0x00001] in <e27997765c1848b09d8073e5d642717a>:IL_0001
at VoxxWeatherPlugin.Behaviours.LevelManipulator.SetupGroundForSnowAsync () [0x0041f] in ./src/Behaviours/LevelManipulator.cs:909
--- End of inner exception stack trace ---
---> (Inner Exception #0) System.NullReferenceException
at (wrapper managed-to-native) UnityEngine.Texture2DArray.get_isReadable(UnityEngine.Texture2DArray)
at UnityEngine.Texture2DArray.Apply (System.Boolean updateMipmaps, System.Boolean makeNoLongerReadable) [0x00001] in <e27997765c1848b09d8073e5d642717a>:IL_0001
at VoxxWeatherPlugin.Behaviours.LevelManipulator.SetupGroundForSnowAsync () [0x0041f] in ./src/Behaviours/LevelManipulator.cs:909 <---

Anyone else get this error and then snow doesn't build up on the ground?

[scarlet mango]

Always or under certain circumstances?

[surreal prairie]

It worked early in testing then after a few drops the error pops and no snow. Not sure if its custom moons related or something else.

[old heath]

So im guessing this mod will need an update?

[sick ridge]

@small cypress This mod is breaking the Bird for clients

[sick ridge]

This mod may actually be fine outside of needing a recomp on V70

[icy fossil]

Just a minor question but is the most common cause for snow/blizzard causing black screens when facing certain directions?

[gray junco]

Toxic smog isn't spawning inside any interior. It works fine on the map outside but interior wise it does not.

[sick ridge]

Yeah toxic smog is broken now

[old heath]

https://tenor.com/view/fix-futurama-help-fry-fixit-gif-4525230

(I know you aren't the maintainer BTW 😆)

[silk cedar]

Is voxx on a break or sth?

[acoustic fern]

https://tenor.com/view/sleep-patrick-spongebob-cry-gif-10759658

[sick ridge]

Noone knows where Voxx has been they just suddenly went MIA iirc, they might have mentioned it

[graceful plaza]

Does this mod work?

[fallow ginkgo]

prolly!

[dapper glen]

from what ive heard toxic smog doesn't work that well rn but everything else should be fine

[graceful plaza]

Should I use the beta

Or regular

[brittle rain]

beta has more content

more weathers

[graceful plaza]

Okayt...

[brittle rain]

i would recommend beta! toxic smog is broken at the moment but snowfall and blizzard work fine

[old heath]

I was under the impression it was having some issues

[round yoke]

I believe the snow works

At least it did on my custom map

on v70

so should be good mostly

[surreal prairie]

For us the snow sometimes breaks. Unsure if its custom moon releated or what. Like some times it works then suddenly it just stops and breaks. Had tried testing to find it but since the dev went MIA I kind of stopped for now until he returns.

[sick ridge]

I know it didn't work on Wither but that's cus Wither is just incompatible with it rn

[surreal prairie]

That may have been one of them. I did have that in my pack for awhile. I think there are a few others too.

[old sierra]

Yea snow might be buggy, but I only had 1 glitch where it didnt want to appear and it suddenly did with a massive fps drop

[old sierra]

It does work fine, but I can sadly confirm that the toxic smog is broken

Besides that this mod is 100% fine

[acoustic fern]

id turn off blizzard's wind though

that can get annoying fast at any config setting

[scarlet mango]

@small cypress hey, sorry for the ping. Just curious if you're doing ok. I'm just unaware of anyone having heard anything from you in a while

[sick ridge]

He's been pinged a few times to no response

[scarlet mango]

Yikes. Kind of genuinely concerned at this point. Like, if they're taking a break that's fine. Just don't recall them announcing it and they've been gone a while I feel.

[sick ridge]

Yeah I've also been a bit worried

The last thing he said was this, so it's kind of ominous that he just vanished tbh

[old heath]

Dang

[sick ridge]

As far as I'm aware I don't think he's even been seen online for a while

[old heath]

One of my favorites

Hope they are okay

[sick ridge]

Me too but I've been genuinely wondering if they are or not

[scarlet mango]

the spike balls got him 😭

(god I'm going to feel so bad if I find out he's not ok)

[sick ridge]

He'll come haunt you til the end of your days for that one

[old heath]

I mean obviously I want the mod, but that should not matter for a persons well being

Life is hard these days

[summer mist]

Hes busy, he's told me he's basically gonna be MIA for a while last time we dm'd

[scarlet mango]

He lives!

Thank goodness

[old heath]

Well as long as hes alrifht

[sick ridge]

Good to hear he's doing well

[fluid socket]

Any issues I need to be aware of with the current beta?

[scarlet mango]

Toxic smog or whatever it’s called is broken. Won’t crash, but the actual dangerous clouds don’t spawn. The dev just needs to recompile the mod but they’re going to be gone a while according to someone else.

Technically the mod’s code is on GitHub. I wonder how ethical it would be for someone to download it, compile it, and upload the fixed version. It mostly works, just the one weather is broken and it’s such an easy fix but I am not under the impression the mod’s 100% abandoned, so idk

(Obviously with proper credit and stuff)

[fluid socket]

I think we can live without one weather.

[scarlet mango]

Yeah, at one point I tried making a mod to patch the broken weather but the way I went about it wouldn’t have worked. I tried to basically just surgically replace the one broken line but couldn’t. Maybe I could widen my approach to replace the whole broken function with a working copy ¯_(ツ)_/¯

If I have the time maybe I will idk

[old heath]

If they are fine with it, I do kinda miss this mod

[wise mirage]

I think they wouldn't mind a fix patch for a weather if the code is public honesty.

[wise mirage]

?

[scarlet mango]

Ok, I can't get it to work. I've tried widening my scope but he has almost everything marked as private/internal so I can't access it. There might be a way around it but I can't get it to work so I'll let another dev do that if they want to. Yes I could just download his code and hit the build button on my machine, then upload that and I think it would work, but reuploading the whole mod just doesn't really sit well with me currently.

[rocky needle]

Game crashed :( the weather was snowy + solar flare

[night widget]

dev hasn't been active, so you gotta figure this out on your own since the mod isn't updating

[rocky needle]

okay, i got what was crashing the game, it seems like if it takes a lot of ms to rebake the NavMesh, the game crashes, i got a big game freeze thinking it crashed again, but the navmesh was rebaked in 17s (time the game was frozen), in the last log i sent here, it was 45s

[jolly panther]

Im not sure why it happens for you, maybe check your pack for mod conflict?
Cause I used to have the exact same issue but with a very old version of the mod and the latest one is fine for me

[rocky needle]

the beta version?

okay, i can confirm by looking at the code it's a part on the freeze water function

i can turn that off luckily

[jolly panther]

yeah the beta is fine for me

apparently not toxic smog tho

[rocky needle]

yeah, sad that its bugged

[daring lodge]

I think toxic smog just doesn't spawn the deadly clouds from what i noticed.

So it doesn't crash but it also isn't really different from foggy until that's fixed.

So disabling it seems like the simple solution.

[fallow ginkgo]

yup

[scarlet mango]

https://tenor.com/view/power-star-wars-my-power-have-doubled-since-the-last-time-we-met-stare-serious-gif-16929390

[fallow ginkgo]

https://tenor.com/view/james-charles-suspicious-meme-dexter-gif-16862144012666500782

[brittle rain]

https://tenor.com/view/heart-radiating-gif-7031725423179576197

[scarlet mango]

We're so back! Breathe it all in (actually don't)! Now, I believe https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Sniper1_1/LEBWeatherFix/ is ready for use until v0xx is able to resume updates.

Huge thanks to @summer mist for explaining how to publicize private methods so that I could actually get in there.

The Beanie weather returns

[brittle rain]

this is sniper rn

[dapper glen]

peak thumbnail btw

[scarlet mango]

I'm 99% certain that's all he needs to do and it would've saved me a headache for sure

[brittle rain]

tysm sniper you really the goat!!!

https://tenor.com/view/cat-hyppy-gif-9091438043443803258

[scarlet mango]

Hopefully, it all works. It seemed to be fine but I never actually experienced it before. In theory all I am doing is when he called his function it instead does my code which should basically be a 1 to 1 copy of what his was, but mine got compiled against the most recent game version

[fallow ginkgo]

GOATEED

[scarlet mango]

I’m honestly surprised none of the the other more knowledgeable devs patched it first. I bet it would’ve taken them just an afternoon instead of my off-and-on for a few days. Now that it’s done it’s not too complicated, but figuring out what I needed to do was tricky

[wet seal]

maybe its bc toxic smog generally isnt liked that much haha

so people just disabled it from spawning and didnt mind

[wise mirage]

Thank you!

[old heath]

Oh? Are things getting fixed

[autumn merlin]

Temporarily, yes
Curious if you're also going to fix v0xx's moons as well as those don't work in v70 either

Derelict doesn't work due to the method v0xx uses to place the toxic smog clouds in the interior iirc

I forgor Arcadia's reason, but I know he specifically spawns certain enemies at specific times and locations (one being an Old Bird)

[scarlet mango]

I won’t say no, but it’s not really likely unfortunately. I might take a look and see how hard it’d be

Like I really doubt I’ll rip his moon files to fix and reupload, but if there’s just a simple code thing to do then that is a bit more plausible

[torpid gate]

does anybody know why i'm getting permanent snow particles after visiting a moon with snowfall? i landed on a new moon and went back into orbit, and they keep spawning in a rectangle around the ship

[brittle rain]

Its not snow, they are stars

[fiery siren]

pretty sure thats snow

[brittle rain]

https://tenor.com/view/sageyonce-gif-20853661

We can dream

[fiery siren]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1118459411493560354/1187380958727520346/ezgif.com-gif-maker2.gif

WAIT I JUST SAW

THE DENT LMFAO

[brittle rain]

XD

[slender lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/3fs-granny-granny-gauntlet-3fs-granny-frickfrackfruitsnack-gif-14553710892826100668

[night widget]

certainly an interesting bug, you can see the interior through the snow footsteps added by snowfall/blizzard

[sick ridge]

I don't think this is a LE issue since I've never had this

Some other mod might be messing with the layers or something

[night widget]

well i literally cannot envision any other mod doing this

[sick ridge]

Or it's cus of the recent WeatherRegistry updates maybe?

Yeah that's hella weird

[unborn jackal]

Hey everyone, I just updated a couple of mods and now this error appears on the CMD and I have no idea what it means. Does anyone know?

[unborn jackal]

Considering the error I posted above, I think it might have something to do lol

[cold dragon]

#1203871322841808906 message

[night widget]

has anyone else experienced an issue where whenever you're somewhere frostbite would apply, you lose control of your camera, your hud stops updating, the mask model around your head stops moving with you and you become unable to interact with things until you get out of the frostbite zone (and this error spams while it happens)

[night widget]

this was caused by the config apparently (fixed itself when i deleted the config) but i don't know what exactly caused it

[slender lintel]

Yup, honestly thought my mouse died right then and there lol

That's strange, I'll have to try resetting my config too

[night widget]

what does your config look like?

if i had to guess it was because i had snowfall disabled but blizzard enabled, so it was accidentally disabling part of blizzard

[slender lintel]

I'm at work rn but I do believe I had the same setup

Used to be the inverse until I decided I liked the name "blizzard" better

I'll hopefully (probably not) remember to enable snowfall when I get home and see if it still happens

[silk cedar]

@scarlet mango the goat. thanks for the fix

[scarlet mango]

you're welcome!

[bleak totem]

question, is the beta version of this mod broken? I noticed it's not generating its config + weather registery (downdated or not) won't register any of its weathers

[scarlet mango]

I’m not aware of that being an issue. This mod hasn’t updated in a while though so maybe something with WeatherRegistry? If there’s not another mod conflict at play. How far did you downgrade?

[bleak totem]

I think 0.7.0

also I had the mod before I started adding new ones to the modlist, so it should have generated well before I added a conflicting mod

(the ones I had at the time I knew were compatible)

even if conflict is in play though, can it even stop a mod's own config from generating at all? I don't know much about config generation

[scarlet mango]

I don’t really know. Maybe?

I’ll have to look into it at some point

The “it not working” part, not just in general if it’s possible to break config generation

[brittle rain]

works fine for me

try it on a fresh profile

[dapper glen]

Beta is probably more stable than original at this point tbh

[scarlet mango]

Though do grab https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Sniper1_1/LEBWeatherFix/ because the toxic smog clouds stopped spawning and this fixes that

[brittle rain]

would be cool if we could pin this message

[scarlet mango]

Yeah. Would be useful. Voxx please. Come back

[brittle rain]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitty-jump-kiss-cute-gif-17574926

[sick ridge]

I was talking to pacoito about how the progress on his fork has been going and you're talking about this lol

[brittle rain]

😮

fork!?!?!

https://tenor.com/view/give-me-forky-food-fork-hungry-gif-15719445

[sick ridge]

Yeah

[brittle rain]

pacoito is doing a fork of lethalelements?

:0000000000

amazing!!

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-6997856904020830598

[scarlet mango]

I remember some talk about that a while back. How’s it going?

[sick ridge]

Well he has no internet right now unfortunately but I was asking him about it since I was hoping it'd be possible to have it for tomorrow lol

[brittle rain]

WHAT

??????????????????????????????

[sick ridge]

Tomorrow is my Birthday stream so I wanted to include a bunch of mods I've missed, LE getting fixed would be peak

[brittle rain]

ooooh

tomorrow is your birthday or birthday stream?

[sick ridge]

Both

lol

[brittle rain]

so that means, its your birthday!!!!!!!!!!

happy birthday Lunxaraaaa!!!!!!!!

i hope you have an amazing day!

[sick ridge]

In a half hour in my time zone it'll officially be my Birthday yeah lol

[brittle rain]

and an incredible session in lc with your pals

[brittle rain]

oh for me its 30 mins past haha

well i'll be back in 30 mins hehe

[sick ridge]

Lmao 11:30 pm for me, 30 minutes til midnight

[crystal elm]

does the glitched out radar on solar flares still work with the new radar changes?

I'd assume not?

[brittle rain]

yes

[crystal elm]

oh dang

[sick ridge]

It does yeah

[scarlet mango]

Happy McBirthday!

[crystal elm]

-# guess I'm adding this back to my mod list

[brittle rain]

its amazing how that feature survived while every other radar tweak mod exploded

[sick ridge]

I think cus it just makes it Glitch which is just a post processing effect

[crystal elm]

happy slightly too early birdfytday!! 🍰

[brittle rain]

HAPPY BIRTHDAY LUNXARA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 🍰 🎂 🧁 🥳 🎉

i hope you have an amazing day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[sick ridge]

Ty

[bleak totem]

that... won't change anything

if people aren't experiencing issues too, it just means something's wrong in the modpack, but I don't know how since I have never had conflict straight up prevent config generation

[brittle rain]

It will prove that its the modpacks fault!

[bleak totem]

I think it was downloaded by a dependency of LEBWeatherFix because I got that first for some reason, my only guess is it installed incorrectly

[bleak totem]

...no

that's like, already known

A mod wouldn't just not work for one person but work for everyone else lol

[brittle rain]

Has happen

[bleak totem]

To the point config won't generate? Doubt it

I'll uninstall and reinstall it and if that doesn't work oh well I guess I'm not gonna rummage through all the mods to find out which one hates LEB

https://tenor.com/view/death-die-dies-explode-explodes-gif-2004373368647406706

did not work unsurprisingly

it will now , die , from the pack

on the bright side I am only disappointed that I don't have solar flare, the others weren't too noticeable aside from snowh on the ground (smog was only really noticeable indoors ig)

[torn arrow]

This gif belongs in the museum

[bleak totem]

It's beautiful isn't it

[brittle rain]

Not noticeable???

Solar flare is the least noticeable one what

All the others completely change how you have to play with them

[bleak totem]

• drains battery life faster
• interior lights keeps blinking
• (forgot) door/hazard malfunctions iirc

compared to:

• heatwave that needs to be adjusted or you wont overheat
• snow. that's about it
• blizzard that needs to be adjusted or you won't freeze
• smog that only really I only ever see indoors and rarely outdoors (unsure if intentional)
• uh

[brittle rain]

https://tenor.com/view/deimos-r6-siege-gif-6204485797971098070

I have no idea what you are talking about adjusting

I've never had to adjust anything for them to work

At most disabling in specific moons

Toxic smog is not only indoors, its a green fog with toxic clouds spread around the map both inside and outside

[bleak totem]

Not everything is rage bait lmao

[bleak totem]

I literally never said it does not spawn outdoors

[brittle rain]

Nah i love using that gif XD

[bleak totem]

sure

[bleak totem]

well I did, I'd have to intentionally sit outside for too long because I could make it in and out without ever passing the time to begin overheating/freezing

at best if a giant camped me it would happen

[brittle rain]

Both have barely killed me multiple times just by being a few seconds outside

I really dont know what you rlaking about

Mayeb the moon you went was kinda buggy

[bleak totem]

that kinda sounds like a skill issue then cause I have never had problems with them even after adjusting

[brittle rain]

I mean, the mod is not even working for you so idk xD

[bleak totem]

yeah the 40 moons sure were buggy

I'm talking about experiences before that???

I said before that the mod worked fine previously

only recently it stopped

[brittle rain]

Doesnt sound like it worked fine

[bleak totem]

...what

Right it didn't work fine because I went in/out fast enough for the penalty timer to not trigger

makes sense

[brittle rain]

It didnt work fine because you said that you had to adjust a few weathers

Thing that is not necessary

Because it works fine by default

[bleak totem]

what part of "I went in/out faster than the timer could go off" do you not get

[brittle rain]

Nothing honestly xd

[bleak totem]

just because I was quick to get inside doesn't mean the mod is broken like what 😭

you can't overheat/freeze indoors or on the ship, so obv if I'm quick I won't notice it

[brittle rain]

But then that doesnt mean its bad, it just means the moon you went is easy to get indoors/outdoors

[bleak totem]

I didn't say it's bad

and 40+ moons?

all of those were just, easy to get in/out?

[brittle rain]

Idk, were they?

[bleak totem]

Like maybe 10 of them were straightforward like black mesa or secret labs, but then there were ones that take longer, it doesn't take that long to get in/out of most moons unless it requires cruiser

[brittle rain]

Its not only being in/out

Its also having a roof above you

[bleak totem]

what 💀

[brittle rain]

Secret labs has tons of roof so it will almost never freeze you

[bleak totem]

Damn then it's even more unnoticeable than I thought! I usually don't run under anything unless there's a giant or it's just part of the map

I didn't even know taking cover would do anything

[brittle rain]

But something like egypt that has no roof, and the main entrance is really far, makes heatwave really crazy

[bleak totem]

I had egypt at that point and it never seemed to bother me

[brittle rain]

Yeah its a neat feature

[brittle rain]

I was gonna say to try again but... xD

[bleak totem]

I mean at worst my stamina would start the drain a bit more near the entrance, but then I was just inside, and then going back it's sloped terrain so you can get back quicker than you got up

[brittle rain]

Its curious tho, i literally forget when the moon is solar flare, besides the lights sometimes turning off and on

But you saying its like the best weather is interesting

Different experiences i guess

[bleak totem]

I didn't really say it's the best just that it's the most noticeable given how much happens

it's less noticeable if it's a modded interior that doesn't support flickering lights / has no hazards

oh I forgot it scrambles the ship's monitor and janks up walkie communication too

[brittle rain]

Snowfall, blizzard and toxic smog are a million times more noticeable imo

Specially toxic smog, since it changes things both inside and outside

[bleak totem]

Snow/Blizzard for the literal snow on the ground sure but their mechanics not so much

[brittle rain]

The snow itself slows you down tremendously

[bleak totem]

well snow is just snow it doesn't really have any mechanics

[brittle rain]

But you can repeat a path to make it easier to traverse

[bleak totem]

It would, if I didn't bring a shovel :p

[brittle rain]

Blizzard also has a fog covering

And periodically there are particles that hurt you and you need to get cover

[brittle rain]

Is it really that useful??

[bleak totem]

what are you talking about lmao

[brittle rain]

I tried it but didnt feel like it was much faster

[bleak totem]

I have never taken damage from a particle during blizzard

[brittle rain]

Wa

[bleak totem]

and yes I just spam the shovel while moving but it doesn't really update the snow terrain very fast

[brittle rain]

Thats like, the feature that differentiates it from snowfall

Together with the wind pushing you and the fog

[bleak totem]

I have literally only taken damage from being out too long

I never got thwacked by a particle or smth

[brittle rain]

Oh yeah that feature too hehe

[brittle rain]

But because you are good or because you have never seen it??

[bleak totem]

unless I just somehow got the one in a million chance to somehow never get struck

[brittle rain]

It happens like in specific hours so maybe that

[bleak totem]

I mean all I saw was snow

I don't remember any other particles

I WOULD double check, if I could get the mod to work

[brittle rain]

Its a big like wind of cyan particles that move all across the map and if you are stuck while they go through you tyou start taking damage

Not much but everything adds up

[bleak totem]

have never seen it

[brittle rain]

Yeah sad

Anyways

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1159759794295545928/1336491630223425698/nk-image-edit-caption-gdn6nxus.gif

For me solar flare is more a visual weather than a gameplay changing weather

Also ghostcodes does really similar things to it

[bleak totem]

a genuine mystery what mod could possibly be stopping leb from generating its config but I'm seeing nothing but other weather mods that I've already used before so idc enough to look into it, one thing for a mod to have conflict issues, another for it to be bricked completely and I'm just not spending hours to find out why

[brittle rain]

If i used battery dependant items it would probably be a bit harder, but since i never need them it literally is just lights turning on and off for me hehe

[brittle rain]

But did it work in a fresh profile?

[bleak totem]

I'm not wasting my time on the obvious

it's not gonna go from working fine in my previous version's modpack then suddenly not work when I rework the modpack, there's a conflict, I'm just not gonna bother looking for it because it would take far too long to find

[brittle rain]

Ok then

[jolly panther]

hehehe🥸

[brittle rain]

Wa

:0

[fallow ginkgo]

if you play solo yeah

[brittle rain]

and if not?

[fallow ginkgo]

bugeyed

if you don't play solo it's more gameplay focused, obviously

lol

thats what the sentence implies cheese!!!

silly

[brittle rain]

im killing Zigzag

why would it be more gameplay focused in mp

if its the same

????

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1265636854431219772/1297946528643809385/silly.gif

[fallow ginkgo]

because the radar being obscured doesn't matter in solo

neither does the battery drain and walkie talkie interference

5 of the six features don't matter in solo

[brittle rain]

oooooooooooooooooh

you riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiightttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt

https://tenor.com/view/cat-meme-cat-cat-funny-funny-cat-meme-my-apolocheese-gif-9976672005576329659

[brittle rain]

truth nuke!!!

[fallow ginkgo]

https://tenor.com/view/nepunator-cat-happy-sunset-gif-15687953810101576364

its ok!!

[brittle rain]

i mean battery drain also affects solo play

[fallow ginkgo]

I mean it's still more visual than anything there's just a few features it adds that do make a diff

[brittle rain]

i just never use flashlight or things like that hehe

[fallow ginkgo]

mainly the radar since you can't check if anyone's alive or not

[brittle rain]

ye i forgor that

[jolly panther]

I swear i was laughing so hard just because you forgot 80% of the solar flare gameplay lol

[brittle rain]

😭 😭 bullying

I completely forgor about the radarrr

https://tenor.com/view/crying-omg-omg-omg-omg-crying-face-oh-my-god-wow-gif-718621924080685401

Thats what happens when you play alone im sowwyyy

[fiery siren]

they fucking got voxx 💔

[torn arrow]

BEANIE NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[pallid laurel]

This specifically

@brittle rain

The 2nd image anyway

Id removed everything from the black list so i could use experimentation for testing.

A few months prior, id been using Dine i think and the problem was still happening w default settings and no other mods iirc

[pallid laurel]

ig what was kindof expected but only happened once:

Started blizzard (on exp). Blizzard collected like normal, started low, collected slowly.

Footsteps that created paths..worked? But were very delated. About 45 seconds before it actually showed up

Shovel didnt seem to do anything. Whacked the ground, no change

Wind speed was fine, harsh wind worked too (both work even now, just not the snow)

When snow accumulated enough, very noticeable slow down. When crouched below the level, blinding white filter applied.

Then it never happened again inexplicably

[brittle rain]

hmmmm weird

idk this mod has its bugs

and without the dev around there isnt much we can do

i just recently found out that the mod doesnt even work without openbodycams

news for me

[pallid laurel]

...yk i was removing n adding things quickly. Maybe it was aome hidden requirement.

Apparently TooManyEmotes isnt compatible with 3rd person without that ModelAPI and it wasnt mentioned either

Ill test more tomorrow while im at work

[pallid laurel]

Ok so I'm less stupid in some ways, more in others.

My PC at home, works just fine on a new profile w just its requirements updated.

So that means 1 of 2 things. An incompatability, or my laptop at work just can't handle it. Which is possible because i use HDLC Patch to run the game at half resolution and almost no effects at all just to get about 20-40fps

it working once might be because i'd turned a bunch of stuff off

[pallid laurel]

Found the problem!

So HDLCPatch (by Minty Mods) Post Processing completely disables the snow gathering and breaks everything reguarding weather using the terrain map.
Work around:

• Enable then disable again, but wont be very smooth w updating and remain broken. Itll atleast fix it temporarily
• keep Post Processing enabled in HDLCPatch and use the mod "Disable Post Processing" by Woowz11. Only enable "Disable Outline Effect"
• If you have a beefier laptop than me or a PC, use Fix Camera Resolution for your graphics needs instead as thats what i use on the home PC with none of these issues

For whatever reason HDLCPatch's Post Processing breaks alot of things with Lethal Elements.

Im so glad it was something i could work around and not something like 3rd Person breaking it cuz i love that mod

Tags incase anyone else has an issue with snow buildup breaking

Lethal Elements Blizzard LethalElements Blizzard

[violet zealot]

HDLethalCompany in general (including the patch) is very broken, and you should use LCUltrawide Community to change the resolution

[pallid laurel]

Ill keep it in mind for sure. Only reason i use it is to half the resolution which i need to test stuff at work for my piece of shit laptop lol

Does it have that feature?

Some mods only increase res, not really focused on lowering it

[brittle rain]

or lethalsponge that also kinda enhances the viewing

[pallid laurel]

Yeh, better suggestions for sure. Im just glad to gave the snow days back without the cartoon filter

This plus Outpost 31 is just absolutely perfect vibe

[autumn merlin]

Snowfall/Blizzard makes a lot of sense since Outpost 31 canonically is in Antarctica

[brittle rain]

my fav is motra snowfall and polarus blizzard hehe

[pallid laurel]

I wish there was a way to turn on the funny "Unfortunate Spacemen/The Thing" mod only on certain moons. Would make OP31 its own little game mode moon

Actually kinda crazy that blizzards n snow aren't vanilla weathers now that i think about it 0-ò

[autumn merlin]

Aside from the absurdly rare meteor showers event, I don't think any weathers proper have been added to the base game for a good while, only revised

[brittle rain]

there havent been any new weathers

vanilla

meteor shower yeah could be a weather, but its most of a event

since it can happen at anytime and can happen with weathers too

[autumn merlin]

Hence why I mentioned the "any weathers proper" since it's an event that acts alike a weather condition but isn't properly classified/handled alike the others

[brittle rain]

weathers are such wasted potential imo

[autumn merlin]

They really are vanilla-wise, they're just potential extra nuisances for outside and nothing really else
Only Eclipsed does anything for the inside

[dapper glen]

are you saying using HDLCPatch to turn off post processing causes it?

[dapper glen]

Patch is not broken btw it is very fine

[autumn merlin]

There's pretty minimal play around weather aside from Stormy where you could potentially use conductive items to kill off problematic outdoor enemies if the scenario aligns well enough

[dapper glen]

just don't use original HDLC cus patch contains 99% of its features

[autumn merlin]

Rest is just having to play specific ways and/or do specific things so you don't get turbofucked by RNG making things harder on you and everyone else

[pallid laurel]

Yep, flicking it on n off was the issue.

Start with it on (post proc active) -> turn it off mid game problem arises -> turn it back on doesnt fix it, needs a restart

[dapper glen]

i see

[pallid laurel]

No other setting maxed or mined had an effect for some reason

Other mods that turn off post proc dont have the same issue

[dapper glen]

i don't touch post processing in HDLCPatch cus lethal sponge does it better imo

if you have that mod you could try it

[brittle rain]

ye... :c at least we have mods to improve the experience!!!

[pallid laurel]

Well yes, but problem is i hafto use hotspot at work and recently the signal here has been absolute hell

Real shot in the dark if i can connect at all

[autumn merlin]

It still confuses me where Stormy does affect enemies but everything else just does 🖕 to you and not to enemies which is very ???

[brittle rain]

true

i wish they where more interactive

[pallid laurel]

If only lightning stunned Oldbirds...

[brittle rain]

like snowfall or meteor shower

[pallid laurel]

Man...

[brittle rain]

CR meteor shower just straight out kills everything ever

and snowfall slows the entities

[pallid laurel]

yoss

[brittle rain]

oh wait yeah

foggy does change giants

[pallid laurel]

...iirc thats only w a mod, atleast properly. Unless they were fixed?

[brittle rain]

no

oh wair

waiit

mmm

[autumn merlin]

Likewise like dogs/hawks in flooded weather avoiding spots that are too deep or drown if they're stuck in too deep water for too long.

All enemies just actively avoid quicksand pits and if a dog slides into it, it sinks down into it alike players do

[brittle rain]

hm

maybe yeah

not sure

[pallid laurel]

Im still not sure if i need the Slime taming fix mod or if they were patched to work properly

I wish the game was mean to the entities too xD

[brittle rain]

i love natural selection hehe

[pallid laurel]

Seriously

[autumn merlin]

I imagine you'd probably have to do smth about the AI nodes and disable ones depending on conditions to be able to do that

[pallid laurel]

Oh yeah, w weather tweaks

Does anyone know the difference between Stormy > Rainy and Stormy + Rainy is?

Is it saying Stormy and then progressing to Rainy at a certain time?

[brittle rain]

stormy > rainy means the weather will start sormy, but later in the day it will change to rainy

stormy + rainy means both at the same time

stormy/rainy means 50/50

[pallid laurel]

Oh crazy!

I doubt ill find a missing combo here, but if i do make one, is it just as simple as adding it to the end?

Of the .cfg

[brittle rain]

what?

the combinations can only be changed/added by weather devs

:0

[pallid laurel]

Uh

Sorry i cant take proper screenshots

[brittle rain]

those are the options right now

[pallid laurel]

Oooh i see.

Even if i did change stuff, it wouldn't save

[brittle rain]

why are you using the notepad?

[pallid laurel]

Uh, cuz thats what came default. Ig i could open it w notepad++

[brittle rain]

can't you click on the options from gale??

this

or is it smth else you are doing?

[pallid laurel]

Well yes, but i meant adding something like Blizzard + Solar Flare which doesn't exist default

[brittle rain]

yeah those can't be added

only weather devs can

[pallid laurel]

Oh yeh ik

I mean now i know

[brittle rain]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-kiss-lunaistabby-kitty-cute-cat-gif-702362695713301435

[pallid laurel]

🫴

Maybe one day

[brittle rain]

maybe

but i think it requires some kind of coding knowledge

[pallid laurel]

I wish i had some of those

Tfw you get the mod u were looking for for weeks and it works flawlessly but your greed overwhelms u

[violet zealot]

Is LethalElements broken in v73? V0xx is absent so it likely wouldnt get a fix for it if so

[brittle rain]

Paco is working on something 👀

[violet zealot]

On that matter that'd include stuff like diversity too, although thats mostly been broken a while

[violet zealot]

We take this

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cam-cat-camera-cat-wide-cat-wide-gif-16729570673879006163

[brittle rain]

But bro is working on like 50 different things atm so

Will take time

[violet zealot]

makes sense

I do worry for the mods made by other absent devs though, having someone make a patch for it wont account for all of them so a lot of mods are going to be lost because of v73

[scarlet mango]

I was told the beta version's fine if you use the patch mod I made ¯_(ツ)_/¯

haven't verified the claim personally

[old heath]

I feel like elements has been broken for a while, no?

[violet zealot]

its been fine, just the toxic smog weather didnt generate toxic clouds unless you had sn1per's patch

[pallid laurel]

Yep

[jolly panther]

For anyone wondering why the mod crash in v73, you need this installed : https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Hamunii/TypeLoadExceptionFixer/

[fallow ginkgo]

tysm ziggy

[violet zealot]

LE being carried by patches

which is good, since i do love LE

[torn arrow]

same

it feels like a must-have to me

[pallid laurel]

its a must have along side Chameleon and Ship windows for me
Game feels like its missing so much sause without it

[brittle rain]

Lethal elements idk whats with it, its so well done, sometimes you dont even remember some of these weathers are from a mod, its truly amazing and im sad that we havent heard anything from voxx

I really hope he's doing fine

[torn arrow]

maybe it's not about how well it was made
but the fact that it literally gives you more weather variety

immersive weathers unlike blue, black fog or in a very little bit wesley's weathers

[brittle rain]

I mean yeah bit we also have other weather mods that even tho they are really cool, they do feel like modded weather, not to say its a bad thing

But like i literally sometimes forget snowfall is from a mod

[torn arrow]

unarguably yes
they do feel like modded ones

[brittle rain]

The ambient is so well done omg

[torn arrow]

the performance sometimes lets you know that it's modded
-# not saying that zeekers also had uhhhhh... issues

[brittle rain]

One day we went to motra with snowfall, and my friend put "snowfall" that chill song and the vibe was so good we just sat there

[brittle rain]

Surprisingly they dont run all that bad for me

Maybe im just used to bad framerates xd

[torn arrow]

me too but it sometimes was noticable

[brittle rain]

Yeah

And solar flare is also another one thats just simple but gives it so much personality

[torn arrow]

I still remember when catalyst crashed for me with snowfall

[brittle rain]

XD

Sad

[torn arrow]

not the game

PC

[brittle rain]

Classic

Yeah it takes some time to load when its a modded moon

[torn arrow]

it was the only time that lethal crashed my goddamn pee-see

[brittle rain]

Peesea

The game hasnt crashed my entire pc, but thunderstore...

[torn arrow]

now because of the v73
I'm basically remaking, reconstructing my lethal modpack
starting off with few vanilla+ interiors and just vanilla moons, and few entities

next I'll be adding halloween stuff such as reenabling wesley's weathers, adding terminus, etc.
when I'm doing to myself this mini-updates, I have control over my configurations

[brittle rain]

True

I kinda do the same

Tho whenever i remake mine i'll prob change to Lunar

Glad that LEB still works in v73 tho

I wasnt expecting that

What other mods does that fix... fix???

Could enemies be fixed with that?

[torn arrow]

I'm already on lunar

[torn arrow]

I wish

so I would have fiend added

[brittle rain]

Didnt know people liked fiend that much wow

[torn arrow]

I feel empty in lethal without him

[brittle rain]

Crazy

I didnt like it tbh

Way too overpowered

[torn arrow]

he's not overpowered

I found him easy to outrun with full stamina

to the point he gives up

also explosions/stuns/flashes kills him

[pallid laurel]

Im insane, so once I finish my entire moon list I'm going to make BetterFogs for all the weathers which have different colors based on what moon/atmosphere density each has.

So like Experimentation has a sort of polluted yellow color, but March would be different. It's blizzards would be more neutral and "slushy" in comparison to Rend or Dine being super hardh

etc etc

I love weather so much

[jolly panther]

since voxx is not there for now, can a high ranking person ping this message up there? Because contrary to the fix by sniper, this is absolutely 100% needed or else the mod will just crash on loading

@oblique kayak sorry for the ping, but can you do that please

[jolly panther]

Im not a fan of toxic smog nor blizzard but the others yes they are very vanilla friendly and that's awesome !

[summer mist]

hamunii's not a mod

[jolly panther]

ah yeah that is true

[summer mist]

when in doubt

[jolly panther]

i always thought she was

[summer mist]

@wicked spindle @wicked spindle

thankfully not

[wicked spindle]

wat

[jolly panther]

thankfully 🧐 ?

[summer mist]

pin the thing

[jolly panther]

pin the message please

[wicked spindle]

You know pinbot exists right? Wheres the OP

[summer mist]

drama stuff, don't worry about it

[summer mist]

1 year MIA

you wanna find him for us atomic?

[jolly panther]

that was the second person i was about to ping actually lmao

[summer mist]

thanks atomic

and git gud

[jolly panther]

💀 oh ok

[wicked spindle]

Im just chilling making mods smh

[summer mist]

uhuhh

[jolly panther]

Thanks

[wicked spindle]

I accidentally made my friend list annoyed i forgot to go invisible on steam and just spam played while testing

[brittle rain]

I love blizzard

The vibes are really cool

In polarus it fits amazingly

Toxic smog yeah its kinda the weakest one i would say

Still cool nonetheless

[scarlet mango]

If we're pinning stuff, this probably should be pinned too.

[scarlet mango]

If this is needed I could make it a dependency of my patch thing. That would probably make it clear and get it installed into people's profiles.

[jolly panther]

Thats a good idea

[scarlet mango]

In what context is it crashing? This was fine

[jolly panther]

what 💀

there 0199e43a-0017-59e1-8aa4-d3417ea19314

so it must be some kind of mod combination or something

[pallid laurel]

I set it to where outside has colored thick fog and a couple poison smog plumes, but inside its smog in most places

Takes 5 seconds per 1 damage, so the smog itself acts more as a visual inconvenience and a push to always keep moving rather than a threat itself

Hell, that plus mines and turrets is already hard

In terms of gameplay its a nice switch up from weather always being a problem outside

Itd be interesting if heatwaves and blizzards added slight fog effects inside or slower hypo/hyperthermia

Kinda why i wished BetterFog had interior custom options

Atleast give the illusion

[scarlet mango]

I've not looked at the profile yet, but if it is truly a weird combo of things causing this, it seems a bit odd to include that fix by Hamunii as a dependency since it's not exactly required for Lethal Elements Beta to work. At least, on its own it's not required. Idk, might could mention it in the readme or something. I'm just hesitant to add dependencies where they aren't technically needed (ignoring the fact that I've done that on a few of my moons lol). I still might make it a dependency idk

[jolly panther]

Let me check whats going on exactly

Ok wtf i found some really strange things

10 mods 0199e4d8-23a1-c545-d0b5-d9fbc44a55bc
LethalElementsBeta is fine on its own but it WILL crash if the mod "Blue" by @karmic ridge is installed 🧐 unless TypeLoadExceptionFixer is also installed, in that case it will not crash

Some other notable findings in this small profile

• The mod "SimpleCommands" by @potent seal will throw an error if LLL is not installed
• "Blue" depends on JLL and it seems that JLL will also throw an error (or crash idk for this one) if LLL is not also installed unless again TypeLoadExceptionFixer is installed which will fix all errors

[karmic ridge]

What

[jolly panther]

This is beyond my basic understanding of TypeLoadExceptions

@oblique kayak if you can please confirm that im not just finding some strange things

[brittle rain]

Do you also have openbodycams??

From what i know LEB doesnt even work without it

[jolly panther]

ok even weirder
If JLL is installed on its own without any dependants mods (simplecommands and blue disabled , still in the same profile) then it will not throw any errors
It will only throw errors whenever Blue is also installed

[potent seal]

can you send me a log of the simple commands thing so I know what to look at?

[jolly panther]

the simple command error