Luna's Moons

[tawdry citrus]

i will work on that after i've made space on my drive for everything i'll be needing

[errant island]

Ough

[ashen vessel]

nice to see yall around

[rustic pine]

do watch the video tutorial, and again, let me know if you need any unity packages for the 2nd and 3rd points (the video tutorial will cover em as well afaik)

and good luck

dam

[errant island]

Yw

[ashen vessel]

Not you cheese

[errant island]

[ashen vessel]

:3

[tawdry citrus]

hello, sorry for ignoring your message you sent to our dms

[ashen vessel]

its not problem

[errant island]

:0

[tawdry citrus]

i wasnt quite sure how to respond

[ashen vessel]

just assumed you were busy

[tawdry citrus]

i read it and chose not to respond because i wasnt sure how to

the files for the mods werent kept when we moved operating systems

[ashen vessel]

thats amazing, as its so much easier than everything besides LQ

[tawdry citrus]

im aware you were a supporter on patreon and i apologize for us not giving any return on your money

[ashen vessel]

no biggie I was only there for like a few months and it was cheap

ive had WAY worse patreons

XD

[crimson flower]

isn't there a way to extract moon files?

like how reale did with those old moons

(vulcan, Io, ether etc)

[ashen vessel]

asset ripper but that has mixed results

[tawdry citrus]

i have no interest in doing that with the old moons

but anyone who wants to has permission

[crimson flower]

couldn't hurt to try

[ashen vessel]

is there anything specific that needs patches for them, bc last I checked they work fine

[crimson flower]

not sure ngl

[ashen vessel]

if any major issues come up ill look into finding someone to help patch

[tired crown]

I would recommend still using LLL for moons for now, DawnLib has caused some compat issues just by having Oxyde using it rn

[rustic pine]

like what

[ashen vessel]

besides the constellations one im aware of

what

[rustic pine]

uh i might've forgotten what that one is, is it on github?

[tired crown]

MoonsPlus for example exploding in Terminal Stuff

with lobby reloads

and uh Constellations

[rustic pine]

it doesnt

[tired crown]

Ah did you fix that issue?

[rustic pine]

a while ago

[tired crown]

I know it was having problems

Got ya

[ashen vessel]

#1327068908129095700 message

it may be on darmuhs end

[tired crown]

Then biggest issue would be Atlas compat then

[ashen vessel]

whats the atlas issue

[rustic pine]

thanks, ill take a look and let darmuh know a quick fix if it is then

[tired crown]

It errors out when landing on DawnLib moons

[ashen vessel]

ah yeah ok, for now I had oxyde disabled bc of the cons issue

since im using it

[rustic pine]

gotta love unreported issues

[ashen vessel]

lemme upload the const one to the git

[rustic pine]

thx

[ashen vessel]

ill test the atlas one and send it if I reproduce it

[tawdry citrus]

from what i've heard, it seems to be more worth it to use dawnlib for future proofing

since im starting out, i'd rather start with the tools that will be more supported

[ashen vessel]

dawn is good, its just going thru a few growing pains

[tawdry citrus]

and more capable for anything i might decide to learn to do in the future

as all new things do

[rustic pine]

also thx

[tawdry citrus]

thats an expected and necessary stage

[errant island]

yeah dawnlib is the way to go hehe

[tawdry citrus]

and im confident that it will be worked out and will be a very reliable and powerful tool in the future

[tired crown]

I mean if you wanna be future proofing you could just wait for the API Jacob is working on to release

[ashen vessel]

also best is that its backward compatible with LLL

[tired crown]

But that might take months

lol

[ashen vessel]

unlike LE and LLL had

[tawdry citrus]

also, hello Lunxara

im aware my system was close with yours before

i hope you havent been worried about us

[crimson flower]

huh

[stable needle]

what would be the difference, why would that make it different

[crimson flower]

oh

OHHHHHH

okay i see

[errant island]

guys BADQ sees

[crimson flower]

nah really lol

they said something about "systems"

and then i remembered

[errant island]

i dont get it :c

[crimson flower]

did you realize they are refering to themselves in plural?

actually

[tired crown]

I should clarify I was half joking with this lol

[crimson flower]

lunx can you explain it to them

[deep sierra]

where is the half funny then

[stable needle]

...yeah where

[crimson flower]

i ate it

[errant island]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-gif-21914875

[crimson flower]

https://tenor.com/view/chewing-eating-bfdi-bfdi-yum-emoji-gif-16031686763710984391

[ashen vessel]

@rustic pine ok tested atlas, it was just fine 0 errors

[tired crown]

Land on oxyde

But also

[rustic pine]

oh nice, ill still try to look at old messages too just incase but if by default it doesnt error im mostly fine with it

thanks for checking

[crimson flower]

yeah

thats definitely oxyde

[deep sierra]

[rustic pine]

[stable needle]

[errant island]

[compact pawn]

[scenic willow]

[ashen vessel]

[warped fable]

[humble roost]

[tired crown]

There's no doubting Xu has done a ton of good work on DawnLib and it's a ton of good work that I really appreciate, just mainly concerned about the few compat issues that have been going on with the moon stuff but I know she's quickly resolving it. I made a joke about extra future proofing cus I thought it would be funny, but DawnLib is an amazing and outstanding API that Xu has done tons of good work on. I know I am bad at communication and shit comes across wrong and I apologize. If it weren't for Xu's API a ton of base game bugs like the Furniture and Item shuffling stuff wouldn't be fixed right now, it's done so much good and it's been absolutely astounding and any jokes I make should not be taken seriously or taken to heart or considered toxic. It was intended to be light hearted I'm sorry for not adding on a /j at the end to make it more obvious that I was joking

[crimson flower]

damn

[ashen vessel]

no big deal, ive just been making it a habit to submit the issue on the git

[deep sierra]

[errant island]

https://tenor.com/view/silly-cat-silly-car-car-stare-10-thousand-yard-stare-10-thousand-yard-gif-14200271775968563996

[crimson flower]

actually no

[errant island]

wa

[crimson flower]

https://tenor.com/view/silly-cat-silly-car-car-stare-10-thousand-yard-stare-10-thousand-yard-gif-14200271775968563996

[blissful gorge]

shilling

(but they're also incredibly active in the community and wanna pitch in w suggesting their maintained and working API)

[rustic pine]

^

[errant island]

plug

[blissful gorge]

how come you never posted this one

[gritty fog]

we dud

did

a whlie back

but wesley thought the babhawktuah was better sticker material

[tired crown]

Just figured you moved on and forgot about the projects tbh, your system has always been relatively unstable compared to ours ((Trying to put this nicely btw )) with most of the people we met now gone so when you went silent and stopped speaking to us we didn't worry about it too much, hope you've been well though

[tawdry citrus]

we've been well, glad you werent worrying

[scenic willow]

idk if you still have any alters who worked on the moons (still not 100% knowledgeable on this DID stuff, forgive me) but your moons were some of the first modded moons I ever played on, and still probably my preferred ones (mainly Incalescence and Tenebrous tbh), brilliant stuff!

[tawdry citrus]

im very glad you enjoyed them

people like you are why i decided to return to this in their place

i didnt want to have anyone having to feel like something was lost

[tawdry citrus]

im having issues with the project patcher

[pastel lynx]

can you explain?

[tawdry citrus]

its not working

can i like, share console logs?

[pastel lynx]

sure!

[tawdry citrus]

i dont know how to do that

[pastel lynx]

@proper marsh can you help a bit?
I have 0 experience of that :,]

[proper marsh]

ouhg it's been ages since i last did it, but there should be a new version of it

[compact pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-blink-blinkingcat-cute-funny-gif-8859604814399687515

[pastel lynx]

hope this helps

[compact pawn]

Oh uhh also

If you're repatching an existing project

[tawdry citrus]

im not

new project

[compact pawn]

Ah nevermind

[tawdry citrus]

does this stuff work on linux?

[compact pawn]

Yeah there's a goofy thing you gotta keep in mind when repatching

[tawdry citrus]

i probably should've asked that first

[compact pawn]

Should work iirc

[tawdry citrus]

how do i share my errors?

i dont know how

[compact pawn]

Errors at which step specifically

[tawdry citrus]

screenshot of the list of errors it put in the console

[compact pawn]

Hmmm

[tawdry citrus]

i apologize for not knowing what im doing

[compact pawn]

Oh you probably need .NET 9.0 actually, AssetRipper's not running

[compact pawn]

Ye no worries

[tawdry citrus]

can you elaborate?

[rustic pine]

did you check out these two links?

[compact pawn]

Project patcher prerequisites are these, I assume you're also missing .NET 8.0 most likely but I remember seeing something about 9.0 being needed

Ye

https://dotnet.microsoft.com/en-us/download/dotnet/9.0

Probably gotta add it as a source in your package manager, if dotnet libraries are not there already

[tawdry citrus]

so what do i do?

with the link you sent

[rustic pine]

download dotnet 9 and press the patch button again

im honestly not too sure if this will work with linux but hopefully lol

[tawdry citrus]

i hope so too

[compact pawn]

Gotta install it through a package manager

[rustic pine]

Oh do you?

[compact pawn]

What distro are you on?

[rustic pine]

Is that a Linux thing?

[compact pawn]

Ye

[rustic pine]

Icic, listen to paco then cuz I have no idea

[tawdry citrus]

arch linux

[compact pawn]

Can probably do pacman -Syu dotnet-runtime-bin then mayhaps

On a terminal

[compact pawn]

Latest version they got there seems to be 9.0

[tawdry citrus]

i'll try that

[compact pawn]

Cold also probably do dotnet-sdk-bin but that'd be more for development stuff

[tawdry citrus]

it just says this
"error: you cannot perform this operation unless you are root."

im probably being stupid

[compact pawn]

Oh preface it with sudo

[tawdry citrus]

yeahh

im dumb

i should've thought of that

[compact pawn]

But yeah you should also do dotnet --version after it's done installing, just to make sure 9.0's there and stuff

Then retry patching

[compact pawn]

o

[tawdry citrus]

interesting

[compact pawn]

Oh wait no I'm dummy

Try just dotnet-runtime maybe

[tawdry citrus]

that seems to be working

[compact pawn]

Yippee

[tawdry citrus]

i very much appreciate the help

[tawdry citrus]

still not working

[compact pawn]

Oh, hmm

[compact pawn]

Oh wait failed to fetch, do you mayhaps not have Git also?

[tawdry citrus]

i have git

[compact pawn]

Weird

[tawdry citrus]

is there anything else obvious i might be doing wrong?

[ashen vessel]

what version of .net do you have

[compact pawn]

Just now installed 9.0, but I guess you could run dotnet --version in terminal just to double check

[compact pawn]

Hmm if you open Packages/manifest.json in your project folder what does it look like

Just out of curiosity

Probably won't be anything wrong in there actually, hmm

[compact pawn]

Oh yeah I guess you maybe do need the dotnet-sdk package then

Can run sudo pacman -Syu dotnet-sdk (like the other one)

[tawdry citrus]

what should i do after that?

[compact pawn]

Oh retry patching, see if same error shows up

If it do then it might be something with running AssetRipper on Linux, but I think people on Linux have patched projects before, so I dunno

[tawdry citrus]

hmm

pretty sure its the same errors

[compact pawn]

Yeah they be

Hmmm

@tribal saddle Is there any additional step needed when running project patcher on Linux? I feel like people might've done it successfully but I might be misremembering

I'm assuming it's just not able to actually run AssetRipper since it's looking to open the executable

[tribal saddle]

hmm, can't say I've ever tried it on linux :(

I assume the editor is running natively, not through Wine?

[tawdry citrus]

yeah

[tribal saddle]

I'm not actually sure how the patcher was supposed to work on Linux in the past, but I would imagine if it's running natively, it wouldn't be too happy about trying to start a .exe

[compact pawn]

Ye it's complaining at this specifically: https://github.com/Zaggy1024/unity-project-patcher/blob/master/Editor/Steps/Processing/AssetRipperStep.cs#L279

Not sure if there's like an equivalent Process thingy but for Linux

[tawdry citrus]

is there anything i can do about this other than just, not using linux?

[compact pawn]

Guessing probably not, at least at the moment

[tawdry citrus]

ah

would it work to have someone else share a pre-patched project?

[compact pawn]

Might be a bit weird if you're intending to do like editor testing (gotta update file paths and stuff), but yeah that could work potentially

[tawdry citrus]

wdym?

[compact pawn]

Oh just like project stuff, like where LC's executable is located, but it might not be strictly needed after it's already patched

[tawdry citrus]

oh okay

im assuming its unlikely for anyone to be available to share a pre-patched project with me rn

[compact pawn]

Oh I don't have one on hand, I'd patch a new one but my computer's comically slow

[tawdry citrus]

understandable

[tribal saddle]

my suspicion would be that that code is fine, but it can't run it because it's a PE instead of an ELF

but sadly I don't know what the solution would be without knowing how people have gotten it to run on Linux in the past

[compact pawn]

Yeah not sure either

Actually uhhhhh I think @minor eagle has done it in the past

[compact pawn]

-# Also elf 🧝

[minor eagle]

I just used a Windows VM

Way too much complication since I use NixOS, which can't just run binaries like that

[compact pawn]

[compact pawn]

I do happen to have a pre-patched project now, I needed it for something

I can DM it unless someone already sent you one

[minor eagle]

I would've made one today and offered it, but good to see that I don't have to abuse my PC today

[tawdry citrus]

no one has sent one yet, so i would appreciate it

[pastel lynx]

Hello! I'm happy to see the amount of help you've got :]

[rustic pine]

has paco sent it or have they gone to eeps?

[tawdry citrus]

They sent it

[rustic pine]

noice

[tawdry citrus]

I havent downloaded it quite yet because i got busy with other things

But i will be doing so soon

[cedar prawn]

if you make new moons please add screenshots of them in your mod description

it is insane how many people dont know how amazing your prior moons are

[tawdry citrus]

i'll figure out how to do that when i make one

this popped up when i opened the project

im not gonna press anything until someone says what i should press

[pastel lynx]

@compact pawn

[rustic pine]

pressing yes is fine

[tawdry citrus]

thanks

[compact pawn]

Pressing no is also fine (I usually press no)

Not really sure what it does though lmao

[compact pawn]

Oh uhhhh you should be able to hit Fix for the two there

For the HDRP one though you gotta select the game's HDRP config thingy, it'll give you the option of picking an existing one and it'll show up in there

[rustic pine]

oh lol, i always press yes

[compact pawn]

Not too sure what the deal is with this one though, hmmm

[tawdry citrus]

actual visuals arent loading

[minor eagle]

You need to switch to Vulkan graphics

[tawdry citrus]

i dont know how to do that

[minor eagle]

It says it in this error message

The second last line

[tawdry citrus]

i went to where it said

but im completely lost

[minor eagle]

Send screenshot

[minor eagle]

Ah, slightly scroll down. It should say "Auto Graphics API for Linux".

Uncheck it, then you should see a new option pop up

[tawdry citrus]

then what?

i think i figured it out

[minor eagle]

Make sure Vulkan is the only thing that is selected

[tawdry citrus]

it worked

i can actually see things now

oh wow

i didnt expect the map effects to just be an image above the actual map

[minor eagle]

Yippee

[tawdry citrus]

now that i have a patched project, what do i need to do to start working on making a moon with dawnlib?

[rustic pine]

okay now you need to add dependencies and stuff for dawnlib to be useable in your project

i can send a unitypackage that you just open and has that part of things setup

part of a template im working on

[tawdry citrus]

would that make things easier?

[rustic pine]

it'd make things faster, putting in dependencies usually confuses people a lot because of some specific settings they gotta touch up

[tawdry citrus]

oh okay

well, i would very much appreciate if you could send that and help me figure out what to do with it

if you have the time

[rustic pine]

sure ill make it rq

[tawdry citrus]

thank you

[rustic pine]

just double click it with unity open and it should just popup in unity

i also made it include blank reference stuff that you'd need to manually create as the moon tutorial video would tell you to

oh wait

i forgot to replace a dll lol

@tawdry citrus there we go

[tawdry citrus]

thanks

so, what do i do with it?

where do i put it?

[rustic pine]

just download it and run it with unity open

and it'll pop up a window for what you wanna import, importing everything in your project in that package should be fine

[tawdry citrus]

how do i run it?

[rustic pine]

i think just double clicking it like any other file works

[tawdry citrus]

for me, its treating it the same as a zip file

[rustic pine]

it should open a window inside of unity similar to how you unzip a zip file i guess?

[tawdry citrus]

i assume within unity going to "Assets- Import Packages- Custom Package" and then selecting the file

would do the same thing?

[rustic pine]

yeah

it'll open a screen like this

[tawdry citrus]

yes, it did that

it showed a big list of things

[rustic pine]

yep, the way it works is that if i package something like my dlls etc for making sure DawnLib works, it also packages the filepath, thus the folders with it

but its not entirely a bad thing, following that type of folder structure is recommended

i packaged GameRips with it as well, which has a bunch of blank references, blank references are a bit hard to explain but the moon tutorial video does go into making them

[tawdry citrus]

i think i still have information about those in my mind

i understand what they are

and what they're for

[rustic pine]

noice, then yeah, that folder has all of what you need for that stuff

[tawdry citrus]

so now that i have all of the things you sent in my project, what do i do?

[rustic pine]

if you right click inside of your files, and hover over create, does it say DawnLib at the top?

something like this

[tawdry citrus]

yes

[rustic pine]

okay nice, do you want to just setup the moon first or the dawnlib bits?

[tawdry citrus]

i dont know

[rustic pine]

we can do the dawnlib part first so its easier to test later

[tawdry citrus]

oh okay

[rustic pine]

so in the import should be a folder called TemplateMod

just rename that to whatever you'd like to call your mod, but it doesn't matter realy

[tawdry citrus]

do i need to rename it?

[rustic pine]

nah

[tawdry citrus]

i dont really have name ideas

[rustic pine]

that's fine then, can keep it as it is

from there, inside it, right click -> hover over create -> DawnLib -> Content Container

and click content container

then do the same thing and click Mod Information

[tawdry citrus]

wdym

[rustic pine]

as in, in this screen, click once on content container and click once on mod information

and it should make these two

(they wont have template in the name)

[tawdry citrus]

ohh okay

thats done now

[rustic pine]

noice, now click one of em

and at the bottom right should look like this

click on the first none, and press new

and then type something like:
mytemplatemod or whatever you wanna call it

then do the same thing on the second none, press new, and then type duskmod

[tawdry citrus]

done

do i do the same thing for both?

[rustic pine]

ye, you wont need to do new for the second one

you can just select em

what this does is assign both of those assets to that assetbundle with that extension, so when you build the assetbundle it should create a file called mytemplatemod.duskmod

should look something like this now, also create an AssetBundles folder next to all of this

[tawdry citrus]

done

[rustic pine]

nice, now just fill in the information inside of the ModInformation asset

will look something like this by the end

you dont need to fill all of it

the main parts are Author Name, Mod Name, Version, README file, Changelog file and ModIcon, but stuff like icon, readme and changelog can be empty or ignored for now

oh and assetbundle directory should point to the assetbundles folder, and the build output directory should point to the same folder the mod information is in

[tawdry citrus]

did that

[rustic pine]

Nice, my pc crashed so I can't get more screenshots but go to the content container and click the plus to make an entry onto it

[tawdry citrus]

the + in asset bundles?

[rustic pine]

Ye

You can ignore both of those buttons at the bottom, the debug one is for me and the one above it is for code based mods

[rustic pine]

Ye, now you can sort of ignore this for now, you don't have an assetbundle setup for your moon yet but we can do that rq

In the moon's folder, next to game rips, just make a folder and call it TemplateMoon or smthn

And inside that make a Registry folder

[tawdry citrus]

wdym

[rustic pine]

Just making a folder called Registry

This layout is personally just my personal way I've sorted my mods that use dawnlib in the past

Like you could just dump everything in one folder but I'm an organisation freak

[tawdry citrus]

i like an organized workflow as well

so it's nice to be setup with something that is organized and structured already

[rustic pine]

Ye okie so inside that registry folder, right click, hover over create, dawnlib, definitions then click dusk moon definition

[tawdry citrus]

i did that

[rustic pine]

now click that, and put it into a new assetbundle on the bottom right, call it whatever you like, and you shouldnt give it something for the second none

so it wouldnt have an extension

it owuld just be like oxydemoon or wahtever as an example

[tawdry citrus]

wdym?

[rustic pine]

uh so im basically saying to assign that asset an assetbundle without an extension

like in this screenshot, the first none is the name of the assetbundle, and the second is teh extension

so the file would end up being name.extension

[tawdry citrus]

so, leave the second thing alone?

or leave the first thing alone?

[rustic pine]

leave second thing alone

the point of the extension is that unity left a thing for devs like me to just be like "okay, look for all assetbundles with this extension duskmod, and do this to them"

and the point of the content container is to tell me what your other assetbundles are, only the main assetbundle has anything like .duskmod on it

if that makes sense

[tawdry citrus]

oh okay

so what do i do now?

[rustic pine]

go back to the content container, and click on the None

and then assign it the new assetbundle name you mad

made

the one without the .duskmod

and i think you already did this but just give it a config name so it doesn't complain, anthing works

anything*

[tawdry citrus]

what does the config name do?

[rustic pine]

so DawnLib automatically creates configs for devs for a lot of things that users usually ask for

stuff like items get auto generated configs for their weights on moons etc

so the config name is basically saying that a config for this bundle's content will be made under the header:
"Config Name Options"

[tawdry citrus]

so should it be named after the mod name?

[rustic pine]

not necessairly, if you split up each of your moons into a separate mod it could have config name's like:
Tenebrous Options
Moon Name 2 Options etc

like my mod has stuff like:
Terminal Options
AirControlUnit Options
BearTrap Options

[tawdry citrus]

ohh

that makes sense

[rustic pine]

the strength of dawnlib is that it allows you to easily separate your content into individual pieces

so you dont end up with a mod of 1gb+ that's always loaded, users can choose to just not load something, this makes it so you dont have to do standalone releases of stuff like moons

users can just disable what they don't like

[tawdry citrus]

oh wow

i do slightly remember that being a big thing that people asked from mod devs

[rustic pine]

yea definitely

[tawdry citrus]

thank you for explaining

[rustic pine]

ofc

[tawdry citrus]

im glad to have an understanding of that now

[rustic pine]

yeah, its why dawnlib is like slightly big to setup, but from the first thing setup it just falls into place from there

like any new content you just add it to the asset bundles list in the content container

[tawdry citrus]

i've done this stuff now

[rustic pine]

nice, now go back to the moon definition you made inside the registry folder, and there's one last thing you basically gotta do now (though you can basically leave it for later since its a name based thing)

you gotta click on the Namespace dropdown, click <Add New> and then type a name, i typed my mod's name, Code Rebirth (which gets simplified automatically to code_rebirth)

the Key is greyed out because it reads something else that contains the planet name of your moon and gets filled in automatically

[tawdry citrus]

what should i name it?

[rustic pine]

whatever you wanna name your mod, you can always just override it later

it's a ModName.ContentName system for identifying your content in a list of contents

cuz some people can have the same ContentName in the same thing, i.e. same item name

[tawdry citrus]

oh okay

so should i just name it like "template mod" for now

[rustic pine]

yeah if you want to

[tawdry citrus]

i did that

[rustic pine]

from now, everything you do is basically just stuff to create moons like any other developer

keep in mind the Moon Definition has a field for your SelectableLevel, which is the vanilla asset that you put level information into it, but you dont have this created yet, you'll probably create it as part of the tutorial for making moons

oh i did almost forget one thing

the Scenes stuff

basically, you can make it so a moon has a list of scenes to choose from

the scene is chosen when you route to said moon, and you can influence it by weight, i.e. one has 100 weight the other has 10, means that one is 10x more likely to be chosen than the other

and can also be influenced by the weather but that stuff doesn't entirely work rn, gotta implement that

[near seal]

btw xu for array element names unity tries to grab the first serialized string so if your feeling nitpicky you can have a serialized string first up in those scene classes, have it set to the name of the scene and use whatever editor override your using to hide the field itself
more for fun facts than usage

[rustic pine]

honestly that has bothered me for a long time

i knew there was a sneaky roundabout that was basically what you said, but i havent had the chance to think about it too much

i could probably make a custom attribute for a fake field that gets hidden but still serialised ig

or actually does [HideInInspector] keep it serialised?

[near seal]

cant remember off the top of my head

[rustic pine]

ill give it a try in a second, it would be better looking than Element 0

should also take the chance to fix the fact that the Key is actually wrong here too

it should be using the scene's name to make a key

[tawdry citrus]

is this stuff important currently?

[rustic pine]

to have immediately? no but when you do make a scene you'll need to put it here so that the mod knows what scene to load, and you don't need more than one

[tawdry citrus]

that sounds complicated and far easier to understand when i actually have some knowledge of what im working with

[tawdry citrus]

oh okay

[rustic pine]

ye, it has a lot of options that you probably wont touch

[near seal]

imagine if you wanted a dine mod where you wanted the og and redesign associated to the same moon. both scenes are "dine" but different layouts so you could have a 50/50 chance of loading one or the other when the players route to dine

[rustic pine]

yeah that's the exact point of it being a weighted list

[tawdry citrus]

so what should i be doing now?

[rustic pine]

probably watching that moon tutorial, you gotta setup your moon environment and stuff now

you're basically done with the dawnlib portions

[tawdry citrus]

oh okay

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZSg_R3UTak&t=298s

this?

[rustic pine]

yep

some of the stuff he says you should make you'll already have in the GameRips folder i gave ya

[rustic pine]

had to make a custom editor property window for it but looks a lot better

[near seal]

ok now turn base weight line into the modifiable int then a readonly percentage that’s auto calculated 😇

nice tho

[rustic pine]

i already crashed my pc once doing this maybe next time 😭 (i dont actualy know whats crashing my pc today this is like the 4th time it happened randomly on some unity script reload lol)

[near seal]

Probably the cursed shit I used to run into

[crimson flower]

sorry that was me

[rustic pine]

maybe, the unity project is also still a 9f1 rather than the latest, havent updated my template cuz dawnlib doesnt really use anything from the later versions yet

[crimson flower]

got hungry..,

[near seal]

I wanna say its MMHOOK related cuz i remember trying very hard to cut lethalib as a dependency

[rustic pine]

it's possible, i did just add LL to the project for the template to showcase some enemy skins from a mod that uses LL

and i think thats when the first crashed happened lol

[tawdry citrus]

im gonna be working on moon making setup things now

whoever is awake, expect questions

[tawdry citrus]

im a bit worried about starting because im unsure of what in the tutorial applies and what doesnt

[rustic pine]

Anything relating to setting up with LLL you'll have already done, and if you look at the assets inside if the gamerips folder I sent you'll know which ones you've already done too

[tawdry citrus]

wdym?

[rustic pine]

The tutorial probably includes setting up some stuff for lethallevelloader so you can load into your moon, but you've already done that with dawnlib
It'll also go into detail about making blank references, but you should already have those too

[tawdry citrus]

oh okay

thanks for the elaboration on everything

i think i understand now

[rustic pine]

Yee

[tawdry citrus]

so where should i save the new scene to?

the one for the moon

what folder should i put it in?

[rustic pine]

Oh i'd just put it in the moon's folder

Due to how scenes work, the tutorial will probably tell you to also give it its own assetbundle

[tawdry citrus]

should i just add the stuff into this folder?

the one that we made for stuff yesterday

[rustic pine]

Yep

You can make a scenes folder if you'd like inside TemplateMoon folder but if you're only doing one scene then it's not a little pointless

[tawdry citrus]

i feel like i should have the whole structure setup for things i might not currently use so that i can just follow the same structure whenever i do actually use those things

[rustic pine]

Ye you can totally make a folder for scenes then, not many people do multi scene so I didnt bother much but I'll try to think of how you'd organise this a bit bette

[rustic pine]

Inside the Moons folder you can make an Assets folder for any moon assets to put in here

Inside that assets folder you could make a prefabs folder, models, materials, textures, sounds, animationclips

And whenever you use something, whether it's your own assets, sketchfab or even vanilla, you should drag it into this folder

This helps for future recreating of the unity project if you're updating it too

[tawdry citrus]

wdym

[rustic pine]

If a new version of lethal company comes out and you wanna update your Unity project to match new assets, you gotta do it in a specific and deliberate way so your currently existing assets don't break

The short explanation is that if you're putting everything you're using into your own folders, then the internal names unity uses for said assets won't get jumbled if you try to update your unity's game version to match

I.e. door handle model doesn't get replaced by a toilet model

I think this happened once to paco

[tawdry citrus]

oh, i see

[rustic pine]

Lol

[tawdry citrus]

https://youtu.be/mZSg_R3UTak?si=NF5ALAi62yKTEnrY&t=914

when it gets to this point in the video

he starts mentioning lethal level loader stuff

i dunno what to do now

[rustic pine]

It'll be super similar to dawnlib stuff, I think it's useful to hear what he's doing and understanding it but you don't have to do anything

[tawdry citrus]

so when do i start doing things again?

[tired crown]

Honestly a toilet door handle for that interior is still somehow hilariously fitting

[tired crown]

I just hope you're not gonna learn all this stuff only to vanish after a few months, I feel like your system has alters dying off every month 😔 not to be bleak but it has been a bit saddening to see so many different people just show up and be gone after a short amount of time

[tawdry citrus]

everyone in our system is still here

most dont want to front much because they like just hanging out in our inner world with other alters

[tired crown]

But if everyone still exists why didn't any of them share the knowledge of how to work on the moons they worked on?

🤔

Would save you so much time

lol

[tawdry citrus]

because not every alters talks to each other

[tired crown]

Well valid but still, surprised you didn't try asking about it since you wanted to work on them

[tawdry citrus]

we have quite a lot of alters and we mostly just spend time and talk to a smaller group that we "fit with"

[tawdry citrus]

theres a few reasons i havent asked

the main one is that i felt it would be better to ask the community to get up to date information

[tired crown]

Idk how your system works though, typically I have a few alters as well that don't really speak to us anymore unless Alex is doing a system check to make sure they're still here lol

[tawdry citrus]

and it wasnt likely that others would remember everything after so long

since no one has touched unity in a long time

[tired crown]

It just depends, at most I would assume they'd be a bit rusty at using Unity but I doubt they'd completely forget how to use it

[tawdry citrus]

im more so just talking about the specifics of lethal company modding

not just generally how to use unity

[tired crown]

Ah fair

[rustic pine]

Unsure, currently attending a game development panel but just keep up with the video and by the end you should have a scene to work on stuff with freely

[tired crown]

I ended up deprecating our cosmetic mod we made for REPO cus I didn't feel like relearning it or updating it

lol

[rustic pine]

If you're still stuck later I'll take a look at the video as well and see

[tawdry citrus]

oh, that sounds interesting

what exactly is the game development panel about/for?

[rustic pine]

It's not a very long panel but it's about entering the game industry, talking with professional developers and studios and seeing what interests them

[tawdry citrus]

so i assume you're looking to find a job in the industry?

[rustic pine]

I'm waiting rn to talk with some of the team members of vampire survivors and a publishing studio person after

[rustic pine]

Ye

I'm studying a game development course in university

[tired crown]

I had no idea the devs of Vampire Survivors were from the UK

that is lowkey cool to learn

It's a pretty peak indie game tbh

[tawdry citrus]

thats cool

[tawdry citrus]

i do appreciate the concern and care that you're showing

it isnt necessary, but i do appreciate that you care enough for that

[crimson flower]

waaait

@rustic pineso if i wanna export my building assets without unity scrambling them, i can just copy them OUTSIDE the project, repatch it and then paste it back in?

[rustic pine]

I usually patch a new unity project and past my assets over it

[crimson flower]

so thats pretty much it

[rustic pine]

Yeah

[crimson flower]

i see i see...........

ill try it tonight

thanks

https://tenor.com/view/run-running-away-running-cursed-weird-gif-24872848

[tawdry citrus]

are you available to help currently?

im still a bit lost and wasnt able to figure out what i needed to do

[rustic pine]

Ye I'm here now

Was making food

[tawdry citrus]

Oh okay

Would it be weird to ask what food you made?

Im curious

[rustic pine]

Just something called lazy cake

It's frozen chocolate biscuit cake

It's like a few ingredients and tasty and easy so I make it occasionally

[tawdry citrus]

Ive never heard of that before

It sounds interesting

[rustic pine]

It's pretty good

[tawdry citrus]

Sounds like it

[rustic pine]

Anyway uh where'd you drop off?

[tawdry citrus]

Cant really do anything rn cuz im trying to fix an issue with my operating system not booting correctly

Sorry

[rustic pine]

Sure lol

[tawdry citrus]

im back

got the issue fixed

[rustic pine]

noice

[tawdry citrus]

apologies, i got distracted and forgot to come back to this

[rustic pine]

Is alright

[tawdry citrus]

i hope i didnt waste any of your time

[rustic pine]

Nah

[tawdry citrus]

the timestamp that's linked to in this video is where i stopped understanding what i was supposed to be doing

[rustic pine]

You can think of the ExtendedMod as LethalLevelLoader's ContentContainer

In practise they're super similar

You can skip that part and go straight to the next section, SelectableLevel

[tawdry citrus]

i assume i can skip the blank refferences section because you already gave me those?

[rustic pine]

yep

but if you dont know how to use em you should find that part of the video

[tawdry citrus]

just set the asset to the blank reference version instead of the actual one, right?

[rustic pine]

ye

[tawdry citrus]

i like the idea of my moon being the first moon that you go to in a run, and im thinking of adding small amounts of tools to be a possible loot spawn

is that something that i can do?

without breaking things

i want there to be a chance to get a free tool or two

[pastel lynx]

There are custom moons that spawn some tools.

so I think it's possible

[pastel lynx]

(example, kanie)

[tawdry citrus]

https://youtu.be/mZSg_R3UTak?si=colbuuAhd4L3dgac&t=1315

so what do i do here?

[rustic pine]

you've already assigned your stuff to assetbundles, so now that you've made your scenes

go to your duskmoondefinition and take a screenshot

just gotta check somethign

[tawdry citrus]

oki, one sec

[rustic pine]

put your selectablelevel here

add a new scene to the scene list

then drag your scene into it

[rustic pine]

assign it a namespace too

same one as you did for everything else

so template_mod

also did you put your scene into its own assetbundle?

[tawdry citrus]

nope

dont remember if i was ever told to put my scene into an assetbundle

[rustic pine]

shoulda been in the video but yeah put your scene into a new assetbundle

[tawdry citrus]

i might've missed it on the first watch

do i have to add anything to the second one or just the first?

[rustic pine]

Second wut

[rustic pine]

Oh thay

Nah just the first

[tawdry citrus]

oki

what do i do after adding the assetbundle?

[rustic pine]

From here u gotta build all your assetbundles into your assetbundles folder that we made

Then use the mod information's build package button to get a zip you can load onto thunderstore

[tawdry citrus]

am i able to test in editor?

cuz i tried to and when i looked for the moon nothing was there

[rustic pine]

Nope

Even with regular LLL I don't think you can

[tawdry citrus]

oh okay

[tawdry citrus]

why?

[rustic pine]

Just some code stuff that doesn't apply in editor, iirc LLLU uses a preloader which doesn't work with the editor, I think even before LLL too there were other issues with testing in editor

DawnLib uses preloaders a lot too so def can't test in editor

[tawdry citrus]

oh okay

why does the tutorial assume being able to test in editor?

[rustic pine]

It's old enough that it was probably possible at the time

[rustic pine]

Hmm

Okay can you dm me your zip

I'll check out what's inside it

Make sure it's the right files etc

[rustic pine]

it seems like your assetbundle doesnt contain your moon definition

the templatemoon bundle

put your dusk moon definition inside of that bundle

and rebuild your bundles, then re-build zip

[tawdry citrus]

this?

[rustic pine]

yep exactly like that

[tawdry citrus]

it was already like that

i didnt change anything

[rustic pine]

hmm lemme check something else rq

can you go to your content container

oh and screenshot that

[rustic pine]

hmm that looks fine too

[rustic pine]

this is gonna sound a bit weird, but press the TemplateMoonScene field, press delete, ctrl + s to save, then re-add it, ctrl + s to save and rebuild your bundles and then the zip package

[compact pawn]

You can test in editor with LLL/LLLU

Though I still prefer in-game testing

[rustic pine]

uhhh you sure? i've heard and seen people patch LLL so they can test with it

and LLLU does have a preloader from what i saw, no?

[compact pawn]

Thonk

[rustic pine]

preloaders dont run in editor afaik

[compact pawn]

Preloader just removes the old LLL if it finds it in FPTS' list of plugins

It doesn't need to run if only LLLU is present

[rustic pine]

ic

[compact pawn]

But also I've landed on Bozoros in editor and purchased balloons and stuff, so all that seemed to be working

[rustic pine]

ic

[rustic pine]

btw can u check this out for me?

[compact pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-blink-blinkingcat-cute-funny-gif-8859604814399687515

[rustic pine]

im looking at something in UE so i cant look at it rn

[rustic pine]

im assuming this is caused by the level missing some stuff

[compact pawn]

Is it on Oxyde?

[rustic pine]

nah the moon by luna

[compact pawn]

Oh

[rustic pine]

im hoping its not a case of me never encountering this becuase oxyde doesnt have an interior

[compact pawn]

Guessing it do just be from the moon lacking an ExtendedLevel, probably

[rustic pine]

yeah this should work @tawdry citrus, re-assigning the field and saving should update something internally that'd make it work, ill have to update my editor tools so its more foolproof but it was caused by basically assigning the scene to that field before giving the scene an assetbundle thingie

[tawdry citrus]

ohh

i see

[compact pawn]

Could disable LLL for now mayhaps, if only DawnLib's being used

[rustic pine]

yeah ill try without LLL in my profile

but i am curious as to where the error's coming from exactly

[compact pawn]

https://github.com/pacoito123/LC_LethalLevelLoader/blob/LethalLevelLoaderUpdated/LethalLevelLoader/Components/MatchingProperties/LevelMatchingProperties.cs#L27

[rustic pine]

oh, yeah okay lol

extendedLevel not existing would do that

what's the progress on that whole thing btw, last i saw you said smthn about duplicate terminal nodes lol

[compact pawn]

It going

I started looking at the LLL scene selection stuff so I got sidetracked

[rustic pine]

okie yeah i can load in without LLL lol

lmao

oh hey sapsucker

[tired crown]

That water is really bright

[pastel lynx]

looks good!

[rustic pine]

its not water lol

it's embrion's rocks i think

[tired crown]

Oh

[rustic pine]

anyway yeah it should work after u do the thing luna

[tired crown]

Lack of Terrameshing then probs

[rustic pine]

i doubt its that, it's just a plane, its not meant for a look rn

[tired crown]

What moon is this btw? Verdance?

[tawdry citrus]

moon loads

[rustic pine]

noice

[rustic pine]

TemplateMoon

[tired crown]

Oh Luna didn’t rename it yet

[tawdry citrus]

leaving everything as template stuff until i have name ideas

[rustic pine]

i dont know what name they're going for or anything, its literally just a slab of obsidian lol

[pastel lynx]

Atm it's just a template, idk if Luna plans to do the same moons or use their names.

[tawdry citrus]

placeholder texture

[rustic pine]

ye i figure

[tired crown]

I would like to see the original moons get recreated and get optimizations snd navmesh fixes but that might require getting one of the alters that last worked on them if you got no ideas and even then you lost the project right? Cus you never backed it up when moving to Linux

[tawdry citrus]

moreso that the others didnt care to keep the old things

and assumed we'd never return to this

so didnt bother keeping anything because it was just wasting space

[tired crown]

I think a mindset like that about a project they worked on and hand made with their own assets is just wild

[rustic pine]

everyone moves on at some point

[tawdry citrus]

guess they just stopped caring after a while

[tired crown]

Oh yeah I know

[tawdry citrus]

i came back because i saw how much you all cared still

and decided that i shouldnt leave the artistic skills that we have idle

if i can make something that other people enjoy that much, theres no reason not to

anyways, since i have a blank moon that actually loads

i can actually figure out what to make

and start getting assets and stuff

[tired crown]

Did none of you backup the assets you all made?

[tawdry citrus]

also no, kinda

[tired crown]

You only mentioned they deleted the project

[tawdry citrus]

the main ones that we actually spent time on

the catwalks

were shared here

so i could download them if i need them

but anything else i need i'll have to custom make for what i want to make

[tawdry citrus]

pretty much just started work on this so its very early on

but i felt like sharing

[pastel lynx]

Ok, how do you do an amazing job always?

[nimble fox]

This looks really pretty

[tawdry citrus]

wdym?

[pastel lynx]

this looks amazing

kinda hard to explain, but it's nice to see this

[tawdry citrus]

oh, well im glad

i appreciate the compliment

[pastel lynx]

Yup, this is peak

[tawdry citrus]

thank you

i really hope you enjoy the finished moon once its done

[pastel lynx]

Believe me, I will

And I can assure I'll not be the only one

[tawdry citrus]

that would be nice

[compact pawn]

Dam, it neat

Also you mentioned spawning some tools iirc, you gotta spawn em using JLL or my library (itolib)

I can help with any wacky functionality you intend to add

[pastel lynx]

Neat indeed

[compact pawn]

Weed killer compat to clear a path

[tawdry citrus]

i was just wanting to add them to the loot tables

[compact pawn]

Oh uhh I forget what happens if you do that

I think they might not spawn inside since they're labeled as tools, not scrap

[compact pawn]

But you can spawn like shovels inside too with these

[pastel lynx]

Afaik one of Beanies moons has some tools that spawn as scrap

[compact pawn]

I have not actually used it for anything, but my library does have a thing to detect weed killer

[compact pawn]

Yeah could try it still regardless

[tawdry citrus]

drew what the rest of the moon is prob gonna be layed out like

its quite small

but thats what i was going for

i want a smaller easier moon

i might choose to expand it a bit

but for now its small

[pastel lynx]

Looks neat. Hope to see the results soon

[tawdry citrus]

decided to draw a loose plan for now since im gonna be sleeping soon

and i wanted to share my ideas/plans

[ashen vessel]

always loved how the terrain looked like on yall's moons

[tawdry citrus]

Oh?

[ashen vessel]

like perfectly detailed

[tawdry citrus]

Is there any specific details that make it look the way you like?

[ashen vessel]

Nothing specific for me to request

just wanted to say I like how its looking

[tawdry citrus]

Oh okay

Well

Im happy to hear that

[snow kindle]

Welcome back! If you need any help, shoot a message ^^

[tawdry citrus]

Thanks for the offer

[modern osprey]

Very, very true!

[rustic pine]

It does look pretty damn good

As paco said, your main tools to help you would be mainly itolib, DawnLib also has a few utility scripts for some occasions but you probably won't find most helpful (but they are documented here just incase you wanna take a look)
https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/TeamXiaolan/DawnLib/wiki/4266-f1-utility-scripts/

[compact pawn]

My documentation is secret

I have yet to write stuff properly

[rustic pine]

Tbf my documentation isn't thorough, it's just one line descriptions (not that I have that many scripts)

[compact pawn]

Ye but it's something at least 💀

[rustic pine]

Yeah I'm saying write one liners when u get the chance lmao

[compact pawn]

I really should actually write stuff lmao, I do have like a bunch of example use cases and my stuff do be admittedly convoluted

Ye

[rustic pine]

I remember people complaining about JLL a lot recently cuz it has no documentation, can't really rely on word of mouth to help nowadays

[compact pawn]

It's got people discussing it on the server (like how specific components work) due to how long it's been used for, but yeah you gotta search for it essentially

JLL changelog does have some stuff written too

[tired crown]

Jacob also is usually available to help out if people have trouble as well

He's active

[pastel lynx]

I do have one specific request.
It's a bit nitpicky so, if you want, you can just ignore this and I have nothing more except accept this...

I'm not a fan of custom entrances or fire/exits doors.
Custom in a way of a custom model/invisible entrance, invisible wall with an interaction door, those things.

Normally the entrance is the metal double door thingy.
And the fire exit doors are red doors with a big EXIT text on it.

But there are moons that changes that and, in my honest opiniom, they make me lose immersion due to lack of continuity with the interior.

Again, this is just a weird mindset lf mine, so if you want to add a custom entrance/fire exit, you have the complete right to add it.

[errant island]

Wtf its looking amazings

Not even a day in and already peak looking

[tawdry citrus]

I wasn't planning on doing that and i only would if i was also making an interior with the same custom doors

[tawdry citrus]

Thank you

Im unsure what to do with the amount of praise I'm getting

Its something im certainly not used to

[pastel lynx]

That's a neat idea

[tawdry citrus]

I would also find it a bit immersion breaking

[tawdry citrus]

didnt do any work today, but i will tomorrow

[pastel lynx]

don't worry, you don't have to work every day

[tawdry citrus]

just wanted to let you know

im aware you're all excited about getting something new

and others before used to work very hard very often

[pastel lynx]

looks amazing

[tawdry citrus]

thanks

[errant island]

"Dont expect unreal engine quality"

It was a lie! We should have expected that!!

[tawdry citrus]

i dont think so

[errant island]

Is this is unity or you in blender or smth

Looks way better than what the game even allows haha

[tawdry citrus]

its in unity

[pastel lynx]

even if it's not.
The quality of your moon are above average found here

[tawdry citrus]

wdym

[errant island]

Most modded moons have a vanilla style look to them

Idk yours doesnt look like its from the game haha

Looks too good:3

[tawdry citrus]

oh okay

is that a good or a bad thing?

[stiff urchin]

It looks way more detailed and realistic and is a great breath of fresh air to the modded moons library

[rustic pine]

preach tb

[stiff urchin]

I'm excited to be able to play them with my friend group

[tawdry citrus]

i dont know how the alters before me could make entire moons in a single day

that seems like an unreachable amount of speed to work at

[rustic pine]

all of these environments look really cool and its honestly so impressive what you've done in such short amount of time. and im curious, how do you do your environments? whats your workflow like if you dont mind saying, there's so much detail i've just never seen anything like it

[tawdry citrus]

hmm

im not sure how to explain

i generally work on small/medium areas one at a time

i ususally start by making rough terrain shapes to figure out exactly what i want the layout/general vibes to be

[tired crown]

I don't think they did

I remember them taking a few days on it

[tawdry citrus]

once i do that, i add rock meshes around the edges of all the small cliff type stuff, and once thats done i use texture painting to define where i want folliage to be

then i add plants and trees and small rocks where i feel like they're needed

and once thats done, i work on the map edge defining walls

[tawdry citrus]

i remember one or two of the moons having been made in less than 24 hours

[tired crown]

Btw just something to remind you to do cus the old moons lacked this stuff, be sure to create Orbit Prefabs for the moons or at least assign appropriate ones and be sure to also appropriately tag the moons lol

[tawdry citrus]

i dont know what either of those things mean

[tired crown]

@rustic pine You can explain better than me

lol

[ashen vessel]

orbit prefabs are the lil 3D moon you can see outside the ship when you are orbiting it

[tired crown]

and tags are stuff for the type of moon, for example this one you're working on looks like a Valley moon

If you'd make a snow moon that is Tundra, Volcanic moon Volcanic, desert like moons are usually Canyon, etc

Actually you know I would kill to see a Japanese moon in your style of quality, we need more of those. a Volcanic moon too ngl lol

[tawdry citrus]

i could consider those

i currently have no ideas or inspiration for anything beyond what im working on now

[rustic pine]

i appreciate the explanation, it doth help bring things to perspective
as for what the orbit prefabs are, it's just when you're in orbit routed to a moon, a prefab showing how the moon potentially looks like is shown outside the ship and you can make your own prefab

[tawdry citrus]

oh okay

[tawdry citrus]

main entrance

heres a look at it from outside

everything around it is very very unfinished

but i wanted to get the building right

if i were to guess on progress

halfway?

[snow kindle]

@tepid pawn we need you to add this moon to your interior’s list

(Once its done ofc)

[tawdry citrus]

hmm?

[snow kindle]

He has an outdoorsy interior that would work nicely with this moon :p

[tawdry citrus]

oh okay

the vibe is meant to be an long abandoned overgrown facility

[snow kindle]

Oh I see!

[ashen vessel]

sounds like pipeworks

[snow kindle]

That would probably work with Wesleys fractured complex (and your previous alt’s interior)

[tawdry citrus]

sorta like some old facility hidden in the middle of some remote forest

[tawdry citrus]

that could work

[ashen vessel]

especially how aggressively green it is XD

[tepid pawn]

oh hey its that interior idea i had

but actually done well

[tepid pawn]

“Outdoors-y” meanwhile its literally just an entire forest somehow

[snow kindle]

Its uh very outdoorsy

[tepid pawn]

ive always wanted an overgrown facility with vines

[tepid pawn]

its just the outdoors

no y required

[tepid pawn]

AAAH

[snow kindle]

That entrance looks really nice

[tawdry citrus]

thanks

[tawdry citrus]

first path to main is now done

[snow kindle]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-beautiful-gif-18014783

[tawdry citrus]

everything thats left to do

(the drawn in stuff)

[snow kindle]

Oh that layout looks really good!

[tawdry citrus]

the green box is gonna be fire exit

[snow kindle]

If you need help optimizing things lemme know ^^

[tawdry citrus]

i should be able to do it myself

its pretty much just making sure everything is compressed and making sure everything has proper LOD's

[snow kindle]

Aye

Also you can do nicer lods so they dont just pop but slowly dither away if you turn something on in your project

[tawdry citrus]

thanks for letting me know, i'll look into that

[snow kindle]

#dev-moons message

#dev-moons message

and this is also a very nice thing we found out recently

[tired crown]

Sub Systems my beloathed

[tawdry citrus]

the path in the center isnt accesible without tools going towards main

so it only functions as a return path

it does also let you see main entrance from the ship

so no getting lost

[tawdry citrus]

gonna take a break for today

at least for a bit

[pastel lynx]

deserved :]

[tawdry citrus]

Because im getting near to being finished with everything

I'd like to get feedback

So i can know what people want

So i can actually deliver that

[pastel lynx]

How hard would it be a swampy ambience?

Just thinking

[tawdry citrus]

Wdym

[errant island]

So fast!!

Moon people cook so fast is impressive

[pastel lynx]

Swamp moon, with mud and all that :]

[errant island]

Moroxide we gotta make a moon

[tawdry citrus]

Ohh

I was more so talking about suggestions and feedback for the current moon

[pastel lynx]

Oh, sorry

[tawdry citrus]

Dont be

Im also looking for future ideas since i dont have any of my own

[tawdry citrus]

more progress

[ashen vessel]

yk this vaguely reminds me of rosie's old moon eve

[tawdry citrus]

oh?

[tired crown]

Doesn't remind me of that at all

[ashen vessel]

I did say vaguely

[ashen vessel]

large jungle canyon, thats pretty much the main comparison im making

besides that different

[tawdry citrus]

that looks quite cool

[ashen vessel]

its only technically playable now but is heavy due for an update but rosie lost the project files

[tawdry citrus]

oh okay

[tired crown]

Rosie isn't even active anymore

🙁

[ashen vessel]

ye

[tawdry citrus]

that lil corner in the top left is all that i have left to do

[tepid pawn]

this isnt even lethal company anymore brah

its too peak

what is that water shader

[tawdry citrus]

its a water shader from one of the free unity sample asset packs

[tepid pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kat-kitty-kitten-evil-gif-10545349572153573100

[tawdry citrus]

hmm?

i dont understand what that gif is meant to imply

[ashen vessel]

its nothing he we all jump post stupid cat gifs

https://tenor.com/view/cat-leaf-vibes-vibing-sleeping-cat-gif-17297041570420202318

[tawdry citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-stare-cat-falling-cat-falling-off-table-cat-spooked-cat-falls-off-table-gif-8630317106254346681

[tepid pawn]

it means ive devilishly happy

[tawdry citrus]

would anyone like to have me show the current state of the moon in game on a stream in a vc?

[ashen vessel]

id do it but its pretty late for me rn

so imma have to pass

[tawdry citrus]

oh okay

[tawdry citrus]

im having an issue where i cant bake navmesh

it takes zero time to bake and doesnt actually generate a navmesh

fixed it

ignore that

[pastel lynx]

that's good, for one moment I thought it could be a dawnlib issue :,]

[errant island]

Ough i love it

I needs these foods

I thought you were taking a break :0

[tawdry citrus]

i was earlier

took a break for a few hours and decided to come back and work some more

[errant island]

We are used to 1 year long breaks around here haha do its funny to see a break for a few hours

Its like when @tepid pawn says he gonna take a break, and 1 hour later he is back cooking amazing foods

And your food looks delicious too!!! Im really amazed by your work :3

[tawdry citrus]

thanks

[tawdry citrus]

is Forsaken a moon name that's already been used?

[ashen vessel]

no I dont think so but it IS the name of a Weather

which could be really funny

[tawdry citrus]

i'd imagine that would be silly

[ashen vessel]

Forsaken (Forsaken)

[tawdry citrus]

thats just another reason to choose that name

i think thats the one i'll go with

[pastel lynx]

just to make sure

[pastel lynx]

is there not a filter of LLL that makes a blacklist if you type the weather?

cuz there may be a conflict if there's that

[ashen vessel]

yes, but id be funny

[pastel lynx]

then it may not work typing the name then