Gale

[umbral herald]

Is it just to thunderstore or does it happen with other places too?

For example Help>Report a bug

Or Open in external editor on the config page

[wispy shoal]

don't know, haven't checked

gimme a min

ok it stopped doing it? that's weird, it happened twice in a row, but it is ok now

[haughty night]

@umbral herald hey, is it intentional that when downloading a mod we cant continur browsing while it does it in the background ? i mean the download window we cant hide it we must wait for it to end

[umbral herald]

It is

It's that way to prevent issues. For example if you decided to delete or rename the profile while installing, or install another mod while it's in progress

It's definitely possible, but would require a lot of changes

[haughty night]

alright

cuse with my slow internet its painfull to download large mod like moons

imma cope with it

[main plume]

standard for even r2modman i think

way better for the program to treat the user as a child because even i can't trust myself

[umbral herald]

You can close it in r2

[main plume]

ahh

oh yeah right

[haughty night]

@umbral herald Another detail : can't we scroll the modlist when we want to rearange the order ?

[main plume]

you can scroll the modlist in custom order setting by putting your cursor with the item at the very bottom of the window

however this is really buggy and you're better off dropping it at the bottom, scrolling, grabbing and repeating until you find the required spot

[haughty night]

yea i noticed

i also put the zoon to 50%

just adding the mouse scroll would be perfect

[cerulean stream]

How do I see which version of Gale I'm using? there used to be a version text at the bottom right but i dont see that anymore

[solar vale]

With Gale, i added "FacelessStalker" to my pack, and even after loading in game with it and in a moon and everything, it hasn't generated a config file at all
I'm gonna do the same with r2 and see if that fixes it

[umbral herald]

You currently can't from the app itself, which I'm gonna fix in the next update

in the meantime you can right click the executable and go to properties

or search gale up in windows settings

[solar vale]

Nvm, my bad
Config is just named something different

[fresh flicker]

i could be mistaken, but doesn't overwriting the current profile essentially do the same?

Granted it depends on the use case, as 1 person probably still has to do the main stuff

[pallid sky]

A friend is getting this issue when uploading a modpack

Invalid args args for command set_pack_args: missing field iconPath.

[umbral herald]

I got a new PC and now gale compiles in 11 seconds instead of 4 minutes

lessgo

[umbral herald]

They were talking about modpacks on thunderstore, not profile codes/files

[umbral herald]

Fix for this is coming soon

[finite mason]

found that if i leave the configs opening gale it keeps resetting my configs while im trying to set them in game

[umbral herald]

Yeah, it doesn't reparse the files until you reopen the page

maybe I could set it up to watch the files and do that

[pallid sky]

my friends are getting all these issues when downloading megalophobia :,]

[umbral herald]

that is r2modman..?

[pallid sky]

that's r2modman?

oh

[main plume]

Clueless~1

[short star]

that’s actually TSMM 👀

[cinder basin]

i swear

i need "Open profile directory" under Profile, not File

my brain has problem to find it every time XD

[digital thorn]

this isn't lethal related, but it said to suggest games here. could Risk of Rain Returns be added to Gale? its on Thunderstore and r2 rn but i think it mightve been added pretty recently

[umbral herald]

It uses a different mod loader and gale only supports bepinex (yet)

[knotty pecan]

Is there any known issues with importing thunderstore codes with gale? My friend downloaded it a few days ago to replace r2modman, and when we tried to play it said he downloaded all the correct mods from the code, but he couldn't join our lobby

[umbral herald]

0.8.10 is out!

Changed

• Moved the Check for updates button to a new About Gale dialog
• Also look for .sh, .x86_64 and .x86 executables when launching games, instead of only .exe files

Fixed

• Modpack icon selector throwing an error after selecting a file
• Cancelling a mod disable dialog causing the target mod to behave as if it was disabled

[leaden grove]

Hi, one question: Does anyone know where are the profiles saved using Gale? I found out that this is not like r2mm where you go to %appdata% and then you find it in its folder

Oh nvm I found it on File > Open Game directory

[fickle wigeon]

I think u still should be able to see the mod list too

[knotty pecan]

any way to fix issues with importing an R2 code into Gale? my friend uses gale, and I use R2. they aren't able to play with our group because they keep getting NetworkConfig Mismatch errors. is there a way to fix this?

[umbral herald]

Seems unlikely this is gale's fault

does r2 work for them?

[knotty pecan]

r2 doesn't load the thunderstore modlist at all on their end

[twin wigeon]

seems like clicking a link in the description of a mod (i.e. LethalApertureDunGen's link to Lethal Aperture Moon) causes Gale to permanently (?) freeze

not always though? hmm, I'll have to keep an eye on what I'm doing before this happens

[astral slate]

Is there a way to unignore ignored mods?

[umbral herald]

I assume you mean mod updates. You can still update the mod by finding it in the mod list and clicking update (or change version). Alternatively you could edit the profile file manually, though they're stored as uuids rather than readable mod names. It's also worth noting ignoring a mod update is just for that update; if the author publishes a new version it will show up in the Update All list

[astral slate]

Ah ok, thanks for the info.

[tender hare]

direct is not working for me anymore

[runic cloak]

i've been trying to open two instances of the game with the 'direct' launch mode, but the game doesn't open. it still opens fine when it's set to steam but not when it's on direct for some reason. is there something i didn't do right here?

[cobalt ice]

is there a known issue where Gale isnt registering certain mods? i noticed that

gale isnt registering that i have installed toomanyemotes and i think thats related to another issue ive been having

starting to think that this is why it hasnt been letting me join peoples games

[knotty pecan]

@umbral herald this is def related to the importing code issues we were having the other day

it also doesn't recognize some mods that are already downloadable on r2modman

[hardy rover]

Why does your Gale look like this?

[hardy rover]

This happens if you import before it finishes fetching

[knotty pecan]

they use windows 11's high contrast appearance

[cobalt ice]

contrast settings on my pc, the majority of my system looks like that

[knotty pecan]

we just did some testing on this as well

in our first test it crashed during loading due to not being able to access a method it needed from high quota fixes

once we deleted and reinstalled that it was able to get past loading, but still disconnects my friend

[umbral herald]

Yeah I accidentally broke direct launch mode 😅

[umbral herald]

Can you click TooManyEmotes, go to the three dots and click open directory?

and show the contents of that, if it opens at all

[cobalt ice]

yeah sure just a sec

[umbral herald]

wut

Why is there no files

[knotty pecan]

that's what we're asking

[cobalt ice]

i tried reinstalling it when i noticed the problem and that didnt fix it

[umbral herald]

Go to the gale data directory, then cache and FlipMods-TooManyEmotes

then BepInEx/plugins/FlipMods-TooManyEmotes and see if there are files there

[cobalt ice]

srry about the bad image quality

[umbral herald]

that is so weird

[cobalt ice]

i dont think this is the only mod this is happening for since TME is clientside

[umbral herald]

hmm

[cobalt ice]

this is just the only one ive found

[umbral herald]

I guess you'll have to delete the whole cache folder and reinstall all your mods

no idea why gale did that

can't replicate it

[knotty pecan]

it's definitely doing that to something that is all-players too because it throws networkconfig mismatch on my end when he gets disconnected

we will try redoing the cache and see if that works

[umbral herald]

Remember to also reinstall the profiles

[cobalt ice]

would exporting them all as codes first work?

[umbral herald]

yeah

[cobalt ice]

ok bet

[umbral herald]

Gale might do it again and in that case something is seriously wrong

but we'll hope that doesn't happen

[knotty pecan]

if they still can't join our session after flushing the cache we'll let you know

[knotty pecan]

just finished checking with a flushed cache, it still doesn't allow them in, and i still get networkconfig mismatch errors in my console. They said the code download failed 3-4 times before it finished, so maybe that has something to do with it?

[umbral herald]

Can they check the files?

and what those errors were

[cobalt ice]

i have one of the errors copied on clipboard rn but i dont know what the other ones said

[knotty pecan]

i only saw 1 of them myself, when it failed to download something after gale automatically refreshed the modlist

[cobalt ice]

Failed to import data - Error while importing mods: failed to install willis81808-LethalSettings: HTTP status server error (520 <unknown status code>) for url (https://thunderstore.io/package/download/willis81808/LethalSettings/1.4.0/).

[knotty pecan]

yeah this was after a thunderstore modlist refresh

[umbral herald]

that's a network error

probably your connection

but it shouldn't cause this issue

[cobalt ice]

thats the only one i could copy since i was letting it download while i did other things

[knotty pecan]

i'm confused on why this is happening with gale specifically

because when they had r2modman before it stopped working, they could download the pack just fine

[umbral herald]

I heard thunderstore had some network issues lately

but idk

the files dissappearing issue is probably gale

[cobalt ice]

that might be why R2 stopped working in the first place now that i think about it

[umbral herald]

#1246088342458863618 message

[cobalt ice]

it was failing to get the mod list in the first place thats why i switched to gale

[knotty pecan]

we finally got to join a lobby together by just having them reinstall r2modman

r2 decided to work again after a fresh install so i guess we'll stay using that until gale can fix whatever issue causes incomplete downloads

[hardy rover]

The same issue can happen with R2, it's not a Gale issue as Bobbo linked

It's a Thunderstore CDN issue

Stop blaming Gale

You're helping noone by throwing fingers at the mod managers

[knotty pecan]

How does that explain both of them doing the same thing but they couldn't join with gale

[hardy rover]

You mentioned incomplete downloads, that's not exclusive to Gale in fact I've seen people run into the issue more frequently with R2 and TMM

It's just an issue that happens for people sometimes idk why

[knotty pecan]

I have seen it where it doesn't download everything, where if I sent a code with 90 mods someone would get only 60 or so

So I agree on that point

[hardy rover]

Yeah, that happens regardless of mod manager

Idk what causes it

I would assume a Thunderstore CDN issue on that person's end

[knotty pecan]

On gale's end it was saying it had the right amount, and every mod that was in my code was in there, but some of the mods were empty in the actual installations

Which is what led to the network config mismatches

[hardy rover]

I've never seen that happen

Did they import before it finished fetching maybe?

[knotty pecan]

When we noticed it we did a test specifically when it finished fetching

[hardy rover]

This could also be a case of them needing to clear their cache and make sure the cache folder is excluded in their antivirus

[knotty pecan]

The location of some mods had an empty folder named assets instead of the actual items in the zips like usual

[hardy rover]

antiviruses are a pain

[knotty pecan]

We did clear the cache

And they only use windows defender

[hardy rover]

Yeah and you should still exclude the cache folder

I only use Windows Defender too

[knotty pecan]

It could not have been defender causing it

[hardy rover]

You'd be surprised

lol

[knotty pecan]

If defender was causing problems wouldn't it affect r2 as well

[hardy rover]

It just depends, R2 and Gale have different cache locations

Defender can be weird

[knotty pecan]

I agree

But either way they're fine using r2 since the original issue that made them switch wasn't happening anymore after a fresh install

I don't want to diss on gale at all but my friend hadn't been able to join nearly anyone's sessions ever since they installed it

[umbral herald]

Oh it could actually be windows defender

[tranquil cradle]

Gale is fantastic. Thanks for this clean and responsive application 💙 I love how it loads TH in the background instead of locking me to a 5 minute wait before i can actually look at my local mod list like TH and R2 does

[tranquil cradle]

I also really like that it remembers the last filters I used for TS even after restarting the application

[main plume]

oh true

i've had modpack filtered off and i haven't thought about it

[tranquil cradle]

One thing that I think would be convenient, is if a mod has a changelog, I could view it from the confirm updates tab before updating it. 💙

[tranquil cradle]

This is everything I have filtered out lol

[main plume]

yeah this has been suggested before

[tranquil cradle]

I see I see ❤️

[solar vale]

The mod count at the top of the profile doesnt seem to update until you reload the mod manager, at least for me. Not a big issue though

[main plume]

updates if you select another profile and then go back

[solar vale]

That too

[umbral herald]

it's fixed now :)

0.8.11

Added

• More game icons

Changed

• Various UI changes

Fixed

• Direct launch mode
• Profile mod count not updating when a mod is installed

[runic cloak]

yayy :D

[rocky tide]

hey, how do I know what I messed up in my modpack metadata?

is the readme too long perhaps?

this is not actually for lethal company, but rather main thunderstore so it'd be a modpack for Risk of Rain 2

[umbral herald]

Readme shouldn't be a problem

have you checked that author is the same as the team name?

[rocky tide]

it is yea

at least it seems like it is so

both are "Phreel"

[rocky tide]

found out btw, it was the readme, it hit thunderstore character limit

it was 2.4k chars above the readme limit

[hardy rover]

@umbral herald Looks like the bug came back with Gale where it fails to get the config for HookGenPatcher on a fresh profile

[hallow reef]

Something I noticed with HookGenPatcher is that it comes with a config file in the download, however if you delete that config and let the game generate a new one, the values in the config will be different. Not sure if this has anything to do with an issue you have but thought it was unique enough to mention. I just provide the one that comes with the download in my Modpack since it seems to have additional values

[hardy rover]

Yeah this is what I meant, when making a fresh profile it downloads it corrupted atm, this happened before a while back with Gale too and Bobbo fixed it

[hardy rover]

Actually it might be fine I think it's just unhappy

[umbral herald]

I think there's a weird character at the beginning of the file

[hardy rover]

Probably

I imagine it's something that gets fixed after the first game launch

[umbral herald]

I've heard the word BOM floating around, not exactly sure what that is though

[hardy rover]

Dunno

[haughty night]

Is there a manip to make gale think i have a mod already downloaded in the cache so i dont have to download it ?

with my trash internet here i cant download large mod, it end up bugging and have to restart from the beginning

so i downloaded a mod manually in my browser

i tried putting it in the cache directory but it did foock up thing like the files got moved in the same directory as the bepinex folder in the profile after starting the download on gale

the result i need is to thing be just like if i had downloaded it from gale so i can export it as a code

oh wait... i just forgor to add the subfile...

i think

i mean i did half the job

yea false alarm, im dum

[umbral herald]

turns out it is because of a BOM

[frosty sorrel]

tf

[pallid sky]

wait for the fetch to completely load

[main plume]

https://tenor.com/view/good-burger-some-of-these-gif-12933391

[lusty granite]

Hello! Firstly, your manager is incredibly fast and performant, it helped my friend with low pc setup, thanks a lot!

Secondly, I can't get "Install with Mod manager" button to work - just nothing happens. latest.log is empty as well 🧐

[arctic mortar]

not the end of the world but I would love to be able to left click drag a mod and scroll smoothly
right now it just makes scrolling harder and you end up dragging another mod on the way

[arctic mortar]

^ The only thing I miss from r2mm but otherwise it's a direct replacement. Great manager 👍

[main plume]

wouldn't be the first time for people using custom

better off doing the good ol drag drop scroll and repeat

[main plume]

never understood why apart from Aesthetic because there's no load order

[arctic mortar]

just me but I like to put certain mods together so I know where they are
like enemy mods together and so on with performance, moon and interior mods.

that's it really it's just aesthetics and somewhat useful sometimes

[uneven crow]

Hi, idk if you know about this bug, but sometimes (anytime btw) setting float value in config using slider causes value to be like 0.7000000001 or 0.6999999999 instead of round one (check screenshot)

Config shown on the screenshot is from mode ShipWindows, slider Rotate space skybox

[signal canyon]

I am also having issues with this. It was working fine for quite a while. Maybe the recent update broke something? Hell I even tried installing something on a different profile, that was already installed, and it did nothing there too.

[tranquil cradle]

Just updated and also getting that. I regret updating lol

Gonna see if I can roll back

Nope, even 0.8.10 does it too, what the heck is going on lol

Even 0.8.9 does it

[magic crow]

Yeah I’m not sure

[tranquil cradle]

No one is safe

Some mods aren't loading either, like LateGameUpgrades, mirror, ect 🤔

[umbral herald]

It started happening as soon as you updated?

Can you do profile/BepInEx/core

and show the contents (if it even exists)

[tranquil cradle]

I don't think it's the update, because I went back a few versions and it was still happening

[umbral herald]

Well the update might have ruined something

maybe it deleted some files somehow

[tranquil cradle]

Clicking open directory for bepin isn't working but it does for other mods in the same profile

[umbral herald]

That's kind of intended

or more like I can't bother to fix it

[tranquil cradle]

oh hahaha

[umbral herald]

go to File > Open profile directory instead

[tranquil cradle]

And what was it you'd like me to look at in there?

[umbral herald]

Send a screenshot of the contents of BepInEx/core

[umbral herald]

Looks fine, I have no idea why that error is happening

The fact some mods aren't loading is also worrying

[tranquil cradle]

I have a pretty big modlist (That worked fine yesterday) that I can give

[umbral herald]

sure

[tranquil cradle]

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[umbral herald]

Works fine for me

which is even more annoying lol

[tranquil cradle]

Debugging software is annoying haha

[umbral herald]

try reinstalling the profile (import the code and overwrite it)

[tranquil cradle]

you're able to type LGU in the terminal?

[umbral herald]

sure one sec

[tranquil cradle]

(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

okay, lgu now works like you showed, but mirror doesn't and 2 of my suits I made don't work either (I'll local test those with a local build though)

That's hella weird, gale is ignoring dll's it seems

Example; https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/WolfGang/MayuModel/
I manually download that, and the File structure is BepinEx > plugins (dll is here) > moresuits (Suit texture here)

But in the version Gale downloads, it doesn't have the Mayu.dll

[dry ledge]

when given a config with an enum flags type, BepInEx resets the config to default value if no value is specified, so using Gale to turn off all the options resets the config to default value instead of using no options

placing a 0 instead of leaving the config string empty stops BepInEx from resetting it to default

[vital mason]

flag type enums are shown as a list

you should not be able to set it to an empty string

[dry ledge]

unticking all options leaves the config blank, which when the game is run creates a BepInEx log saying it couldn't read the config and that it reset it to default options

i'm suggesting that instead of leaving the config with blank, empty string, it should leave a 0 which BepInEx reads and interprets as 'no flags'

[vital mason]

if your enum does not have a name for 0. then it's your issue tbh. but i get what you're saying now

0 could still be a flag tbh

[dry ledge]

actually yeah having a name for 0 would make sense

[vital mason]

it's not good practice but it's possible

[vital mason]

^this was referring to this messae

[dry ledge]

i did not create a name for 0 in my enum, if that's not good practice then i'll change that in my mod

up to you whether that's worth fixing or not in gale lol

[vital mason]

the chain of messages got confused.
normally a flag enum has a name on 0 that is some iteration of None/Empty ecc

what i was referring as not beeing good practice was the fact that somebody uses Flag Enum 0 as another flag.. which not only confuses users, but def also confuses the code 😅

[dry ledge]

ohh yeah that makes sense, i knew about that haha

in my case i just didn't name the 0 so it gets a bit confused when no flag is set

[vital mason]

i think deciding on what to use as empty value is not a simple thing for Bobo.

remember that Gale can only use the comment in the config to decide how and what to show to the end user. so all it can see is a multi-choice option that could easily be a List of Enums 🤔

probably AsyncLoggers is not the prime example as the LogLevel has a overriden description in BepInEx 😅

[dry ledge]

perhaps just show the same as it does now, but if the user unticks every option, place a 0 instead of leaving the space after the = blank?

i believe 0 should be interchangeable with any named 0 option

[vital mason]

that's only if the entry is a Flag Enum, a List of normal Enums would have almost the same description i belive but will complain about 0 not beeing a valid value on load 🤔 ( i'm not 100% sure on this, maybe enum lists are differentiable enough )

[dry ledge]

ooh yeah, i see

i'll just add a name for 0 to fix my issue, i think this is more a problem with how BepInEx reads the config since it's not clear what you should put if you want no value set, which does seem to be a valid use case for the config

[umbral herald]

I'll look into exactly how BepInEx parses flags

[twin wigeon]

looks like the "Multiple values can be set" differentiates it

and parsing just uses built-in methods: https://github.com/BepInEx/BepInEx/blob/e1974e26fd7702c66b54c0d6879c90b988cc4920/BepInEx.Core/Configuration/TomlTypeConverter.cs#L103-L107

and Enum.Parse does indeed accept string representations of underlying values for flags and non-flags enums

(including undefined values)

[umbral herald]

Yeah, and it looks like if the value is left blank BepInEx will simply ignore the option while parsing. When the option is later bound by a mod, the default value is used

Enum.Parse can both parse the flag names (separated by colon), and integer values

So setting it to 0 when no flags are selected sounds like the best option, as then BepInEx will read it as just that, 0

[tranquil cradle]

Was this problem ever fixed or found out? I don't know if it's my mod issue or Gale's issue that it nukes the dll out of the plugin folder

This is the file structure of the mod, ignoring everything before BepinEx

if I manually put my Mayu.dll into that plugins folder, it loads just fine

[umbral herald]

idk what is happening

Maybe an antivirus issue?

You could go into the cache and delete the mods with missing dlls

it'll fix your issue for now but it might come back later as you install newer versions

[main plume]

or put an AV exception on the folder

as a test

[tranquil cradle]

That would be weird since https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/HoneyBlood/TarTheProtogen/ that does the same thing I do, doesn't have the same problem I do

adding the dll manually doesn't make it vanish, it's only when installing through gale. I can try with r2modman to see if I have the same issue

I added an exception to my entire profile folder with my AV and when installing through Gale, it still doesn't add the dll

and it's not just my mods it's doing it too either, it does it with https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/quackandcheese/MirrorDecor/

I wish I could help out more with diagnosing what's the problem. Gale logs don't show anything. Even when adding/removing mods lol

[umbral herald]

Yeah I haven't added much logs

but I don't think it would help anyway

[umbral herald]

:)

[main plume]

god bless context menus

[lunar cave]

absolutely beautiful mod manager

so much better than thunderstore

[violet osprey]

I agree

[umbral herald]

0.9.0 is out!

Added

• Right-click mod context menu (same as the dropdown on the details panel)

Changed

• Various UI changes and fixes, including revamped reordering

Fixed

• Symlinks not having .old appended to them when disabling mods
• BOM-encoded config files causing a parse error
• Extra whitespace around config options causing a parse error
• Install with mod manager button on thunderstore.io
• Profile mod count not updating when a mod is uninstalled
• Extra decimals sometimes being added when dragging a config slider

[spring crown]

Did the update got removed? I can't update the app and there's no download on GitHub either

[umbral herald]

Oh right, I forgot to hit publish

it should be working now

[spring crown]

Yeh, it is :D

[sudden walrus]

bug speedrun world record

i cant believe you actually fixed the reordering 🥹

[tranquil cradle]

Hey @umbral herald ! I decided to try something, remember when Gale was complaining about Bepin not existing? I decided to delete the Default Profile, make a new one, and this is what's in the core folder

[umbral herald]

Kind of a bug, kind of isn't. The component library just works like this and I couldn't find a way to change it to only allow one open. I know it's annoying but also really annoying to fix

without writing my own one

[umbral herald]

Definitely an antivirus issue

[hardy rover]

Yep cus Gale has never done that for me

[tranquil cradle]

what the heckies, but antivirus didn't trip though

[main plume]

try adding an exception to the folder just incase

as a test, you can remove it if it keeps doing it

[hardy rover]

I'm concerned as to what kind of antivirus you're using I have never seen that UI before

[main plume]

yeah lol i thought that was github

[hardy rover]

I don't get why people don't just stick to what Windows comes included with tbh

[tranquil cradle]

Bitdefender

[hardy rover]

When did they make it look like that? I swear it looked vastly different

[tranquil cradle]

I don't remember, but it was either earlier this year, or late last year

[main plume]

because people like AVs and sometimes even defender is a bit wonky even though it's pretty good for the bare minimum

[umbral herald]

Well try adding an exception for gale's data folder, delete your cache folder and reinstall your profiles

[main plume]

i can't look at the bitdefender site for assistance because geopolitics lol

[tranquil cradle]

Cache folder? I don't see one

[umbral herald]

it's in the data folder

just called cache

I should probably re-add the button to delete the whole cache folder so you don't have to do it manually

[hardy rover]

I've found most of the time a third party AV isn't really better than Defender and just makes false positives more common. In reality using Defender is best along with just general knowledge to avoid viruses and stuff most of the time if you're worried adding on Malwarebytes suffices nowadays

[main plume]

i've had defender cry about a zip file because it used a compression algorithm that a trojan used like years ago

also yea malwarebyte's spot scans

goat

[tranquil cradle]

I've only had false positives when downloading something that's actually sus lol Like emulator stuff

[hardy rover]

I had that once too with something, but it's rare lol

[main plume]

yeah nobody gaf about hacktool:win32 that shit goes into exceptions right away

[tranquil cradle]

doing this fixed that. so it was a weird cache issue

[umbral herald]

Nice

[main plume]

sick

[umbral herald]

it was the antivirus removing the dlls in the cache

[tranquil cradle]

I personally recommend this too haha

[umbral herald]

weird that bitdefender didn't log that though

[hardy rover]

I stopped using Emulators for a reason honestly, it's more risky than it's worth nowadays

[tranquil cradle]

I like my nintendo games not on crappy nintendo hardware x3

[hardy rover]

I just stopped having interest in Nintendo but I get ya

[tranquil cradle]

This reminds me of windows 7 and older days when applications frooze and would do weird stuff when you dragged them around haha

[sudden walrus]

after updating a mod, the green update button stays there until you refresh the screen or click on it again

[wispy shoal]

Not to be rude, but could you change the importing from code mod overview back? the new narrow one really makes it hard with a lot of mods

or make it an option?

[stiff quest]

Yeah, I feel like the old one was probably better

[hardy rover]

@umbral herald Can't downgrade mods anymore after the new update

and LGU is broken for me

Whyyy

[umbral herald]

Oh right, I removed that and forgot to put it back in

[violet osprey]

evil

jk

[umbral herald]

Hmm ok. The thing with the last one was that it felt squished and the most important things at the top didn't get enough space. Also it feels like most of the time you don't care about the mod list, so having it take up so much of the screen and pushing the import button all the way down is bad

Maybe a hybrid could work where you still have the expandable list, but if you expand it the popup widens as well

but that could feel weird feedback-wise because the window expands

[wispy shoal]

That'd be fine. Personally I look at mod lists a lot especially since I use the unofficial server with randos sometimes and I actually do want to see the mods

[umbral herald]

yeah

I'll see what I can cook up

[violet osprey]

bobbo our goat 🔥

no rush but when possible can you re-add/fix downgrading mods? I need it sometimes because I do HQ (high quota) on older versions that uses older versions of mods

[umbral herald]

idk

at most like 2 weeks

If you didn't know you can install older versions of mods from here as well

[violet osprey]

oh i never noticed that

tysm

goat

[wispy shoal]

wait, there is another way to downgrade mods?

*was

[main plume]

the whole time

[viscid meteor]

Just a game request for Gale
https://thunderstore.io/c/tcg-card-shop-simulator/

[main plume]

based

[stiff quest]

Found another small issue:

[stiff quest]

Could you also bring back the ability to quickly install a mod using Ctrl + Left Click?

[umbral herald]

why does thunderstore even allow that

Also I fixed the context menu issue

it was much easier than I thought

[tranquil cradle]

That's a question we jannies question all the time.

It's gotten a lot better than it used to after LC exploded the store haha

[near notch]

Allow what exactly? 128 char package names?

[umbral herald]

Such a long name

[dapper harbor]

gale becomes basically unusable after opening and closing the game? scrolled through chat only a little bit and didnt read anything about it

[umbral herald]

What do you mean? Does it start lagging?

[dapper harbor]

more like nothing works anymore

i cant click on anything anymore

[umbral herald]

Anything at all? Not even the close button?

[dapper harbor]

well now it stopped doing it classic

basically i tested my model replacement mod and every time i closed the game the only thing it would let me press is minimizing or closing

all the menus at the top just stopped working basically

oh i think i got it

thats atleast how i can recreate it rn

the menu points still light up and all its not frozen but nothing just works anymore

can still close or minimize it tho

[acoustic compass]

Something similar happens to me when updating the readme in my modpack, gale become partially unresponsive and the preview no longer updates; icons are unclickable.

[zenith cape]

btw, are gale export codes supported by thunderstore? it seems to just.. not work

i would look for someone else who asked, but i'm with friends and it's a lil time sensitive

[sudden walrus]

they are

[warm topaz]

glad to see you got around to fixing this Extra whitespace around config options causing a parse error

from my testing it seems like you just dont append the portion of the config that has the extra white space in it?

[umbral herald]

It should be compatible, but there's something weird going on with the latest r2modman/tmm update. Seems like the mods and config are installed, but the mods just aren't recognized by r2/tmm

You can try importing a gale-generated profile into tmm and check if the mods are there in the files

[umbral herald]

It removes any whitespace characters at the beginning and end of every line

[umbral herald]

0.9.1 is here

Added

• Support for TCG Card Shop Simulator

Removed

• Redudant options in the Window menu

Fixed

• Re-added the ability to edit mod versions
• Being able to open multiple mod context menus at the same time
• Importing local mods with BOM-encoded manifests
• IL2CPP BepInEx packs being extracted incorrectly
• Small UI fixes

[umbral herald]

yep

thats gale

[urban crater]

that might be gale

[bleak dagger]

nice gale you got there

[solar vale]

Bro is galepilled, galemaxing
I went to galetown and everyone knew you there

[peak latch]

How would I go about changing mod load order, if possible?

[sudden walrus]

that's not a thing

[peak latch]

Ok

[chrome nova]

this is really cool, I've been looking / hoping for an r2 replacement

Reminds me of Modrinth

[main plume]

bepinex load order is not real

https://tenor.com/view/megamind-gif-23880338

[main plume]

intentional

welcome to the gale club

[dapper harbor]

I've tried all 3 mod managers and gale is the only one that actualy runs stable and doesn't shit itself unlike r2 or thunderstore

[kind ravine]

can confirm

[keen mulch]

r2 got updated recently to use less RAM

Should stop whitescreening and loads faster

Not necessarily better than Gale, and neither is Gale better than r2. But nice to have a few options that work for everyone

[solar vale]

Even the thunderstore web page for me bugs out in my browser from time to time

[urban crater]

i've noticed that you cant use gale when its downloading something, which can get annoying if your trying to look for mods while its downloading something big is this intentional?

i feel like having the download bar at the bottom like this would make more sense instead of not letting you use the app while its downloading something

[umbral herald]

It's intentional in the sense that doing it the other way is a lot more complicated

Might change in the future though

[leaden grove]

@supple osprey This is Gale channel

[supple osprey]

Oh ok ok, ty!

[valid veldt]

hi, i think they are a problem with gale or r2modman/thunderstore, cause when i give to my friend the code of the pack that i create on gale, they cant import the profile on r2dmodman/thunderstore

[hoary pawn]

my friend cant import code or launch lethal using gale.

[uneven ether]

Have seen that issue only once before with a friend and that’s an internet issue not a mod manager issue

[solar vale]

Can also maybe be a storage issue depending on size of modpack

Antivirus too i think

[misty hazel]

can confirm only occurs when sharing Gale code to other Mod launchers

but using code from r2/thunderstore works perfectly fine

[umbral herald]

Yeah something with the latest r2modman update broke

I've talked to ebkr about it

still don't know why it's happening though

[dapper harbor]

so is it a r2 issue or a gale issue now

[misty hazel]

I think its r2 issue

but I suggest they should transfer to gale

[umbral herald]

It was the r2 update that caused it, so I guess r2?

but you could also say they set the standard

Btw r2 still reads and imports codes fine, but it seems to just forget about them right after. After importing a gale-generated code you can see the mods and configs and all are there, but it doesn't populate the mods.yml file with anyhting

[short star]

We are replacing the supplied mods.yml file with the one in the export, since it’s not there then it’s blowing up

We’re discussing what to do internally, so there may not be changes on your end but we’ll keep you updated

[umbral herald]

alr

[main plume]

what's the temporary fix for this

because export file also doesn't work

black mesa and nestfix, runtime net code patcher also gave out an error (apparently quote from friend) which could mean file size problems but . i'm still testing

[floral cargo]

Is there a way to just update a profile instead of overwriting it ?

when importing from a code

[main aspen]

For some reason, when people import my modpack, it shows 0 mods.

[main plume]

blame r2 and thunder because we felt like it

[chrome nova]

The same thing was happening with our group

All of the sudden I was taking the blame for using something other than R2

But the problem is known as seen above

[umbral herald]

wdym by updating?

[umbral herald]

Theres no easy one. You could tell your friends to downgrade r2modman or upload the profile as a modpack and tell them to install it from there

or I guess switch to r2 until it’s fixed

[umbral herald]

I COOKED with this one

also thoughts on green logo?

[tranquil cradle]

Blue > Green

[umbral herald]

the thing is the app is green

which has always been weird to me

[tranquil cradle]

then make the app blue /joke

[umbral herald]

I mean it's not a bad idea

[tranquil cradle]

It's primarily blue

[umbral herald]

but r2modman has blue so

[tranquil cradle]

unless I'm now finding out i'm color blind

[umbral herald]

The accent color is green and everything else is kind of blue. At least to me I think of gale as green

[tranquil cradle]

Green is commonly used as an accent, especially for the reason you're using it. Toggles and update buttons.

[sudden walrus]

gale is def blue

making everything green is probably too close to modrinth

[misty hazel]

blue much better imo, You can use the green one for your different mod as ur trademark

[hardy rover]

I honestly prefer the blue logo

[dapper harbor]

how about you let us change the app colors and keep it blue

[umbral herald]

um that would be cool

but I have no idea how that would work

[main plume]

it's green?

[umbral herald]

xD this is what happens when you don't think about the colors early on

[main plume]

it's still a solid color .. just blends too well

[umbral herald]

I meant more in that the "brand" color for gale is all over the place

2 have said green and like 4 said blue here

[dapper harbor]

probably because blue is a nicer color in general

[umbral herald]

well

spotify is green

no one going to say it's blue lol

But I'll keep the logo blue I guess. Should really have thought over this earlier in development

Alternatively I could remove the green in the UI and replace it with blue, but I think that would be too close to r2modman

[dapper harbor]

i dont even know why this coloring is such a concern now i dont think anyone has ever thought about this. also having everything just 1 or 2 colors is not always good (i've been doing retexturing mods for a very long time in another game and trust me it becomes a bad habbit)

doesnt have to be rainbow colored but i think simply having more colors will set gale apart

[sudden walrus]

i think everything is perfectly fine as-is

[dapper harbor]

ye

blue icon with green app is completly fine

[sudden walrus]

i still see the app as blue personally. the accents are green but blue is still the dominant color

[umbral herald]

Yeah you're right it's a really minor thing. The reason I brought it up was because it always rubbed me that the logo is blue, but the "standout" color of the UI is green. Which leads to gale not having a strong brand color that everyone associates it with. It's not optimal, but would be more of a problem if I was selling gale.

I'll keep it as it is

I don't agree with having many colors (gale is just the blue/gray and green with splashes of red), but that's a discussion for another day

[dapper harbor]

if it bothers you then feel free to change something i wont be bothered by it but its a very minor thing most people will not care about at all

[stiff quest]

I kinda like it

[floral cargo]

Well, imagine I have a profile with some mods and I wan't to add mods on it by importing them from code, instead of deleting every mods and then adding the mods from the code, it simply adds the mods from the code and dosen't delete the mods already installed previously on the profile

I'm not very good at explaining so I hope I made it clear 😅

[main plume]

oh yeah I also had this idea

have like profile packs that you can add on top of existing ones

like say I have a profile purely of 5 server sided mods but I can load into it my profile of performance mods

similar ideas yours more direct

[severe belfry]

The only green is the highlighted buttons/text ✊😔

the background of the window, text boxes, icons/text, are definitely blue

[cinder basin]

give themes to gale

[warm topaz]

Recently had to reinstall windows and now I cant get gale to launch 😦 Anyone had the issue where after you install gale it just sits as a background process at ~450MB memory usage? Uninstalling/Reinstalling doesnt change anything :/

[low pivot]

That's very odd

So it shows it running in task manager but the app itself doesn't show up?

Hmmm

[warm topaz]

yep

have a feeling it's something persisting from windows.old, I didnt do a fresh install because I had some stuff I wanted to save

[umbral herald]

I've also thought about that but I don't think it would give much of a speedup

since those mods you already have are cached, and cached installs are extremely fast

[umbral herald]

I don't think they mean a feature to merge profiles

[umbral herald]

no

[floral cargo]

pretty much, yeah

[umbral herald]

oh

[floral cargo]

but from like

the import feature

I have to use many optimisation mods and my friends keeps on addings mods and giving codes so I gotta download them manually all the time

[umbral herald]

I don't think it's useful enough to implement - there are already tons of "QoL modpacks" that do the same thing

[warm topaz]

@umbral herald Could you tell me which folders gale creates/uses as part of it's installation? I know of the install folder, AppData\Local, and AppData\Roaming. There anywhere else that would have files relating to gale?

I tried scrolling thru the chat history here but not seeing anything

[umbral herald]

Someone else reported this once but I didn't get any more information

[umbral herald]

Should be only in Roaming

[warm topaz]

yeah I think I saw a similar issue on github

[umbral herald]

that's where all the important stuff is, atleast

maybe there's something in the logs?

[warm topaz]

I wish, I dont think it's logging anything lol

[umbral herald]

I don't know then, there's so little go off

It's just failing to create the window for some reason

[warm topaz]

yeah no worries, im gonna mess around a bit, just wanted to see if there was anything I was missing folder-wise

[umbral herald]

try installing a mod through the button on thunderstore?

[umbral herald]

Seems like the rust process is doing fine, so it shouldn't be anything related to that

[floral cargo]

I just ended up uploading a modpack on thunderstore

it works I guess

[warm topaz]

its making these files at least

[umbral herald]

Yeah I think it's just the window that doesn't get created properly

[warm topaz]

this didnt do anything unfortunately :/

[warm topaz]

there anything I can do to help it along?

[umbral herald]

can you check if the mod got installed?

[warm topaz]

it would be in roaming right?

[umbral herald]

yeah, lethal-company/profiles/Default/BepInEx/plugins

[umbral herald]

welp

[warm topaz]

lol

[umbral herald]

I don't know then, this is a really hard issue to debug

[warm topaz]

what is manager.json supposed to look like?

just the one line?

[umbral herald]

it should have one field

but it might only write once you do something

[warm topaz]

manager.json

  "activeGame": "lethal-company"
}```

[umbral herald]

that's correct

[warm topaz]

prefs.json

  "steamExePath": "C:\\Program Files (x86)\\Steam\\Steam.exe",
  "steamLibraryDir": "C:\\Program Files (x86)\\Steam",
  "dataDir": "C:\\Users\\user\\AppData\\Roaming\\com.kesomannen.gale",
  "cacheDirOld": null,
  "fetchModsAutomatically": true,
  "zoomFactor": 1.0,
  "gamePrefs": {}
}```

look normal?

[umbral herald]

yeah

[warm topaz]

😭

[umbral herald]

if you have the time you can try building it from source

maybe that will give some pointers

https://github.com/Kesomannen/gale/wiki/Building-from-source

[warm topaz]

maybe another time, it's already 6AM for me and I haven't slept hahaha

[umbral herald]

ah

[warm topaz]

I'll let you know if I figure out how to fix it

[umbral herald]

I think you should sleep xD

[warm topaz]

just figured i'd ask if maybe it was something simple I was missing lol

[warm topaz]

okay it was a me-issue

I installed a compact version of windows which comes with a lot of "bloat" features disabled. I went through enabling some things and was able to get the window to appear

could have been a handful of things so I don't wanna point you in any specific direction. I wasnt exactly going through each thing one by one to check if gale worked

But I guess if you get any reports of it in the future, good thing to ask would be if they are on a modified version of windows

[nimble bronze]

i solved it last time with this

[arctic gulch]

is this correct?

the launch game button doesnt do anything

[umbral herald]

Steam library should be C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam

like default

[arctic gulch]

oh

[arctic gulch]

yeah but i didnt have steam installed when i setup gale

so it was empty

[umbral herald]

ah ok

It should return an error when it's wrong though 🤔

Don't know why it didn't do that

[arctic gulch]

ok it works now

thanks

i think you should make some set to default button

just in case

inside the field, you know

[umbral herald]

maybe

[quasi ridge]

i like the green

[tender hare]

Blue is way better

@umbral herald I don’t know if this is a bug or if it’s just me but for some reason when I pin gale to my taskbar it stops showing the icon after a reboot. It just shows a file icon.

[main aspen]

@umbral herald for April Fool’s day, have Gale look like r2modman

Or just change the name of Gale to “Gay”

[umbral herald]

disaster

[main aspen]

Lol

[umbral herald]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

windows things

[main aspen]

So, how did you make Gale? How much experience did you have when first working on Gale? It runs like a dream!

[umbral herald]

Didn't have much experience with rust and sveltekit

i made like one small desktop app before, but I've programmed other stuff for a long time

and gale has also went through a lot of changes, I've probably worked more than 100 hours on it in total

[main aspen]

I remember hearing about it 5 months ago. I’m surprised it only has ~10,000 downloads

On Thunderstore

[umbral herald]

I would say 10,000 downloads is a lot xD

but compared to mods on thunderstore it doesn't get redownloaded by everyone for every update

also people are downloading through github, aur etc

[main aspen]

I forgot about those sites

[hallow reef]

I link people to the download from your website kesomannen . com

[restive girder]

Hey, was messing with configs the other day and was struggling to look at and figure out which checkboxes ligned up with what text.
As an accessibility feature of sorts I think it'd be really great if when there are a number of consecutive checkboxes, every other entry had a darker background element, like so:

As it currently is this example looks like this, and can be difficult to read.

[main plume]

^

[umbral herald]

so, about colors

soon your gale can be truly blue

[main plume]

you don't understand my novelty excitement over this

[dapper harbor]

doesnt know how to do it, does it anyways

what a chad

[primal barn]

Im looking at the explorer and dying

[stiff quest]

I'm most excited about lime

[primal barn]

@umbral herald this you?

nvm it is

[umbral herald]

It was actually pretty easy

just didn't know you could do it with tailwind

[umbral herald]

what's wrong with the explorer

[primal barn]

[fervent frost]

is there anyway to put disabled mods at the top/bottom of the list?

[chrome nova]

You can drag them manually but a sort option would be nice

[fervent frost]

well i want them to use the regular sort

like i wanna sort by last updated but have disabled all together at the top

[warm topaz]

@umbral herald Have a bug to report, looks like string config items (that do not have a config description) with a blank default will get updated to have their value as "=" when changing any other config item in the file. Noticed this issue when trying to figure out why imperium was failing to load for me https://discordapp.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1225942840282976316/1300599779532738570

Steps to reproduce:
Install imperium in a profile
Load game to generate config
exit game and edit any config item in imperium's config
open imperiums config file in text editor to see extra =

pretty sure it's because the config item doesnt have a description because I wasnt seeing it with my own blank string config items

[dapper harbor]

i had this with random enemies size too

[spring crown]

This also happened to me with InfectedCompany, when I left empty the keys to activate Infected Mode

[mighty oxide]

any idea why the configs in Gale automatically put '=' in blank config spots, subsequently disabling the mod for the session?

[hardy rover]

@umbral herald

[umbral herald]

Fix is out in about 20 minutes

though you will have to manually restore the affected files :/

[hardy rover]

@mighty oxide

Told you he'd fix it almost instantly :3

[mighty oxide]

noted

[hardy rover]

In this case since you said it happened after importing your profile from R2, if you've made no major changes you can just reimport from that right?

[mighty oxide]

we'll see

[hardy rover]

What was causing this to happen anyways?

[umbral herald]

bug in the config parser

I think it was from when I fixed something there in the last update

[hardy rover]

Probably

[umbral herald]

You can sort out enabled mods here

here it is

0.9.2

Added

• Accent color setting

Changes

• Minor UI tweaks

Fixed

• Zoom in hotkey (Ctrl +)
• Empty string config options causing an extra = to be added

[hardy rover]

I was not expecting Gale to be so much more blue after updating

XD

[umbral herald]

It's a bit more blue yes

I used different colors for text and the background before which was weird

But I think it looks more cohesive now. I also tried using the background color for text (which is more gray):

compared to the bluer version:

[warm topaz]

really like the sky blue variant

[hardy rover]

I do too but I like Cyan just a bit more regardless I feel like I like Sky, Cyan, Green, and Emerald the most

[warm topaz]

tbh I figured fuschia or purple would be your color

[hardy rover]

I don't like how they mesh with the bluer tone of the rest of the app

and none of those purple tones are really my purple I like either

XD

[hardy rover]

I swear the blue in mine looks so much more contrasted lol

[umbral herald]

looks the same to me

[warm topaz]

I'm guessing Hex Codes are a bit too hard to implement or else it would be fun to mess with the different hues lol

[hardy rover]

Might just be cus I have it full screened tbh XD

[umbral herald]

It's not that hard, but you would have to input like 6 different shades

the ones you can choose from are just tailwinds built in colors

https://tailwindcss.com/docs/customizing-colors

[warm topaz]

oh jeez, yeah I see why you didnt include the option lol

[fervent frost]

Yeah I saw that, not exactly what I want but I can cope 😂

It's just one of the things I found nice of r2

[scenic helm]

Love the new accents

[main aspen]

Could you add a feature where updating a mod in one profile updates the same mod in all other profiles?

[solar vale]

That could be annoying, idk about others but i often keep older versions of my packs as seperate profiles to easily compare and rollback between in case stuff breaks between updates, so i certainly wouldnt want a mod to update in all of those
Once you update a mod that version is cached anyways, so updating the mod to that version in any other profiles should be instant since you arent downloading it again.

[main plume]

true that, cache wise

and also

[main aspen]

fair

[stiff quest]

Full screen gale has a 1 pixel space between taskbar and application 💀

[solar vale]

RUINED

cant unsee

[dapper harbor]

ive been able to ignore it so far

[stiff quest]

I think we have a psychopath over here

[solar vale]

https://tenor.com/view/troll-trolling-troleo-tetris-forocoches-gif-7189439

How it feels

[stiff quest]

[dapper harbor]

ah shit i exposed myself

[upper cedar]

The zoom in hotkey seems to be Ctrl Shift + while zoom out is Ctrl -. Just had a heart attack when I couldnt zoom back in after making it too small to read lmao

[fallen patrol]

did the new update mess with the config menu?

going into the config when I open up LLL all i see is this now

in 0.9.1 it showed up like this

[uneven ether]

Load into a lobby completely, and don't just go to main menu. Then close the game and check Gale again. LLL will refill the rest of the config.

[hardy rover]

It's fine for me.

Oh I see lol you told them how to fix it

My bad

XD

[fallen patrol]

fixed it thanks, was only loading into the main menu instead of into a lobby

[spring crown]

🤔

Could it be possible to add "dividers" or some kind of organizers?

Something like this

I've been using these "empty" mods to organize modpacks xd

[scenic helm]

yeah, thank god for nickham13 and mod_divider

[chrome nova]

I loaded into a lobby and the config hasn't shown back up
Load up the pack, load into lobby, close Gale, close game, open Gale to show LLL config settings

[twin wigeon]

not sure if it's standard, but from my experience, r2modman looks for an "author" field when adding a local mod, it would be cool if Gale could be consistent with this so that installing a mod locally could apply to an existing mod ID

[fervent frost]

Small issue I noticed the other day but if you try to import a profile from r2modman that has a local mod and is named "Default" it causes Gale to get stuck in a crash loop until you delete the game's folder in gale's AppData

I fixed the import failing by removing the local mod then importing it but ofc the crash loop is the main issue with it (even though maybe it should just skip mods it can't find when importing 🤔)

[hardy rover]

@umbral herald I've noticed a lot of times after opening the profile directory Gale's ui stops responding

As in you suddenly can't interact with anything in it until relaunching it

[hallow reef]

Never had that, and I open profile folder a lot

[umbral herald]

That would be quite complicated from both a technical and UX side

like how and where would you even add/remove/edit those?

[obtuse jetty]

Profile renaming doesn't work anymore?

[solar vale]

for me this happens when i have a file open from inside that folder, such as a config

trying again after closing any of the stuff i had open fixed it

could also maybe be the file length

[umbral herald]

so close

[main plume]

had to log in in the car

[obtuse jetty]

Yeah looks like I had a folder opened

thanks

[umbral herald]

eyy lets go

[sudden walrus]

scrolling while dragging is very much still broken

now after dragging something for a while i just find mods randomly scattered across the list

i think it fixes itself after a while or when resetting the tab

for example, before and after refreshing tab:

[scenic helm]

I usually just reload the profile after dragging something, where Ill find it off by like one mod

it only happens for me when dragging to the top/bottom of the screen so it scrolls

[narrow berry]

I want a neon green version

Or a purple version

[white aurora]

anyone know whats going on? it errors any time i open it and this also happens after uninstalling and then reinstalling gale again

[umbral herald]

Looks like an old version

[wispy shoal]

noticed this for a while but for some reason didn't report. I've noticed often when exporting from code, it just either doesn't work or sends a completely different profile unrelated to anything

I don't think this always happened, but it started like a couple months ago

where I noticed it

[main plume]

isn't it just r2 issue or did that get resolved

[umbral herald]

Sounds like the same issue

but that didn't start a couple months ago

[violet osprey]

My friend cant import modpacks from gale for some reason? Anyone know why

[umbral herald]

issue with the latest r2modman update

it's going to be fixed in the next one

[violet osprey]

My friend is using thunderstore tho

weird

[umbral herald]

thunderstore mod manager and r2 are the same thing

[violet osprey]

Oh im dumb

Alr ty

[mighty oxide]

well, almost the same. one has ads and one is r2

[main plume]

r2 is like thunder+

same shit different treatment

[umbral herald]

Yeah I meant that they used the same codw

[main plume]

oh rip lazy devs

i mean it works so whatever

[main plume]

when would r2 update ..

oh it's apparently visual i gotta confirm that later

[umbral herald]

Yeah kind of, r2 does install all the mods and configs but "forgets" about it immediately

[main plume]

you'd think they would push a hot fix just for this by now

actually no it's niche you can always just make another modpack or local rip

[frigid heron]

oh, it's only visual?

nice, i've lost 2 days because of that 😆

[umbral herald]

oops

[main plume]

when does it actually

[umbral herald]

idk

looks like they already fixed it just haven't released a new version yet

[short star]

no guarantee it'll be this weekend, but likely next week

[short star]

it's not quite that simple because in theory we don't need to support differences with Gale exports, so there was also an internal discussion as to what we'd do about it
it's not a bug per-se

[main plume]

cool sick thanks

[main plume]

the wonders of tech

[tawny vale]

i have a friend that gets this error when importing a profile

he tried reinstalling and still gets this

[umbral herald]

network issue

I’ve heard thunderstore have had some problems lately

[umbral herald]

I'm thinking about making the next version 1.0

I dont think there are any major bugs left

except for the r2 import thing but that's not a gale problem

[forest trail]

Don't know if this is where I ask but could https://thunderstore.io/c/supermarket-together/ be added?

[dapper harbor]

its in gale for me

a bunch of icons seem to be broken but that game is there

[forest trail]

Oh maybe I need to update

[dapper harbor]

a ton of icons seem to be broken, not sure if thats a me issue or in general tho

[forest trail]

Just updated and mine looks like that too

[dapper harbor]

dont think it matters much but might be something for bobbo to check out

also gale still just.. breaks randomly? basically what i showed a while ago where it just doesnt do anything

[umbral herald]

It's just a lot of manual work that I've put off

[umbral herald]

I dunno

[scenic helm]

it's not particularly important, but I think it's a bit odd that the mod panel on the right stays open when switching games

it also directs to non-existent pages when clicking the mod name, like that mod leads to https://thunderstore.io/c/riskofrain2/p/JacobG5/Pinnacle/ which is just not a thing

again, not particularly important, just thought I'd bring it up

think it'd make more sense to close the panel on the right when swapping games

[tranquil ember]

Any plans on WEBFISHING support?

[finite mason]

my friend is struggling to test a mod he is making cause gale gives up on importing the dll

can anybody explain to me why its doing this

[umbral herald]

Since it uses a different mod loader not right now, maybe in the future

[bleak dagger]

bobbo isn't capable of rewriting the entire thing to support another mod loader :(

(a trait with 3 functions)

(I am under exaggerating)

[dapper harbor]

how about adding compatibility for every game that has ever existed no matter the engine

[main plume]

I think gale should be compatible with quantum computers

[stiff quest]

Hopefully gale supports my smartfridge soon 👏

[primal barn]

Gale on my pencil when?

[short star]

it's now sorted

[chrome nova]

If I can't mod my Crokinole board using Gale then what's the point of living

[sudden walrus]

i'd be willing to do it if you give a qrd on what needs to be done

[left aspen]

I'm feeling exceedingly stupid right now. I cannot figure out why BepinEx isn't kicking in. I had to reinstall my computer, so I just dropped the old Gale config folder in, that worked all fine seemingly. I run game, no log, nothing when hitting menu (as I would see changes). Been trying a few things. Like I cleared the profile folder, and Imported mods fresh, still nothing.
On Linux. .deb version. Not sure what on earth I'm missing.

I'm not sure it's a Gale issue, but it could be. No error messages or anything in the log. All seems proper on that end, but no bepin when it launches on steam makes me think something is off.

Ok I suspect it's some issue with Steam doing protective things, and probably no fault of Gale, if anyone knows, let me know. I'll post ifI figure it out.

Ah, see I am the fool, I am the fool that may have updated Headers, and forgot that I should always reboot right after doing that. Silly me. Any other Linux user will be facepalming.

[main plume]

atleast you documented it

[runic laurel]

This would be great

[tranquil cradle]

webfishing isn't a unity game, it's made with godot

[tranquil cradle]

I facepalm when I see linux users /joking

Glad you found your problem and (Like saltyashy said) documented it if anyone else has this issues

[tranquil ember]

I know, but it's supported on Thunderstore, and it'd kinda suck if pretty much the best mod manager is purely Unity exclusive

[umbral herald]

soon

[tranquil ember]

https://tenor.com/view/astro5ktv-plotting-evil-gumball-hate-gif-15470430847650807074

HappyScribbleofJoy

[umbral herald]

🫠

[short star]

get out of my pc

firefox gang

[tranquil cradle]

Me when i'm cleaning up the thunderstore haha

[chrome nova]

Hi, LLL config is still not showing up for me even after opening the game and starting a lobby

I'm still able to open it in my text editor, just can't see it in Gale

[sudden walrus]

you may have to go to a different tab and then go back to config

[chrome nova]

that doesn't fix it

[sudden walrus]

i'm not really sure then. everything works fine on my end

[umbral herald]

Looks like an LLL issue

does the other options have comments in the file?

[frosty sorrel]

idk why but gale is fetching mods very slowly recently

this has been stuck for several minutes

[vestal ore]

It's normal for me.

[boreal perch]

Gale crashes on launch and I don't know why. I open up task manager and it's there but nothing's running.

When i click it, it would quickly flash the window then close immediately. Then i have to manually end it in task manager.

[crude cove]

Is there a way to change my directory? I cant seem to get tabs working with the Xbox store like i did with thunderstore

[umbral herald]

Install microsoft edge webview runtime

[umbral herald]

I think that’s thundersore having some issues

[umbral herald]

Gale doesn’t support xbox store

[crude cove]

Damn that’s unfortunate… okay

[crude cove]

Is there planned support?

[umbral herald]

maybe

[boreal perch]

it said i already have microsoft edge webview runtime

[hardy rover]

It seems to happen mostly after drag and dropping the log file, while copying and pasting it makes it less likely to occur

Something is weird

[umbral herald]

I dunno

can't replicate it

[hardy rover]

Steps: File > Open Profile Directory then go to BepInEx, drag your LogOutput.log over to Discord, try interacting with Gale the ui is no longer responsive

Can reproduce it

every time

[umbral herald]

works fine for me

[hardy rover]

Do you have a 2nd display?

[umbral herald]

yeah

[hardy rover]

Might be a Multi-Monitor issue

Literally just reprod it

You can't click on anything anymore after

It just dies

[umbral herald]

The hover effects still work though

[hardy rover]

Yeah

[umbral herald]

that's weird

[hardy rover]

It just doesn't let you interact anymore

[umbral herald]

can you try using the install with mod manager button on thunderstore while it's frozen

I'm gonna send this in the tauri discord as well

[hardy rover]

For some reason the issue started with 0.9.0

[umbral herald]

Does it only happen when you drag the file?

[hardy rover]

Yeah, for some reason I think dragging and dropping stuff causes it to break

If I copy and paste it it doesn't break

[umbral herald]

if you just open the profile directory?

[hardy rover]

It's fine

It's after dragging and dropping

lol

[umbral herald]

so strange

[umbral herald]

Hmm ok, I don't know what it could be then

[umbral herald]

only 5 months later than planned :)

1.0.0

Added

• Open game directory button to File menu

As you can see basically nothing changed since the last update

[severe belfry]

A toothpick changes everything

[umbral herald]

also gale is now on every thunderstore community that it supports

[kindred stag]

i love gale raaaahhhh

LMAO

I just realized how far behind I am on versions

😭

[main plume]

GG

[kindred stag]

ok now I love gale even more god damn

I just went from 0.6.2 to 1.0.0

absolutely goated ui and feature

[frosty sorrel]

i've noticed that "ctrl +" doesnt work, only "ctrl -" works

[paper raptor]

can you search within a thread?

Failed to import code - Failed to resolve mod references: package Unknown-ConfigurationManager not found.

is the error im getting, also i cannot import my profiles from r2modman

i think its because i had a local mod installed but not included in my profile.. trying to delete it gives the same issue. i made sure it's not in my plugins folder

okay i imported the local mod in r2modman , and that didnt fix the issue

yeah i deleted the mod from r2modman and the plugins folder itself, and i cannot remove the reference to this mod

https://github.com/BepInEx/BepInEx.ConfigurationManager/releases
this is the local mod thats causing the issue

okay i figured it out, even though i deleted the mod, it was still in my mod list

[umbral herald]

Which game is this on?

[paper raptor]

risk of rain 2

[umbral herald]

alr

I'll try to fix this as soon as possible

[umbral herald]

both work for me 🤔

[paper raptor]

no problem, i was eventually able to the profile imported via code

i also submitted a suggestion on github.

[umbral herald]

I'm afraid a lot of people are stuck at this version xD the auto updater broke for just that one

Umm ok

[frosty sorrel]

for me doesn’t

[umbral herald]

can you go to AppData/Roaming/com.kesomannen.gale and send a screenshot of the contents?

[umbral herald]

quick fix

1.0.1

Fixed

• Importing profiles with local mods (they are ignored now)
• r2modman/Thunderstore Mod Manager profile transfer for Risk Of Rain 2

[gritty ivy]

ive been using gale for about a month and now this has happened and it wont open

[primal barn]

Can I maybe use gale to make a plink mod manager for private use ?

It’s a must have for me

I can’t stand without plink

https://tenor.com/view/plink-wide-cat-plink-cat-meow-gif-27396868

[nova sandal]

License allows so as long as its open source

The same license is used

And the modifications are documented

[primal barn]

Oke

[hardy rover]

@robust lark Now that Gale 1.0 is out, when do we get to see it be pinned like R2?

Idk who has to set that up ofc

lol

[robust lark]

I'd have to ask who even has the privs to do that

[hardy rover]

Yeah I figured as much ^^

[nova sandal]

Small suggestion: have a small plugin system so the mod manager can be modded to add new features and stuff (something like vencord or vscode extensions)

[paper raptor]

Folders please 🥺

[umbral herald]

Your "save file" might have become corrupted

you should just be able to remove it though, it's called manager.json and is located in gale's data folder

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[umbral herald]

That's definitely out of scope, plus the plugins would be pretty powerless as you wouldn't be able to extend the rust code

[severe belfry]

Now that Gale reached 1.0, could be a nice time to start making a dedicated Discord

[hardy rover]

Eh does R2 even have it's own dedicated Discord?

[severe belfry]

yes

[hardy rover]

Got you

I guess that's up to Bobbo, setting up a Discord server is a lot of work especially for one person

[severe belfry]

yeah

[umbral herald]

I actually made one a while back but never made it public

[robust lark]

released from prison

[umbral herald]

thanks

it's in the readme https://github.com/Kesomannen/gale

[robust lark]

waah

_> I dunno why this keeps happening to people. Its standard practice on like every server I've been in to block outbound invites

[umbral herald]

i forgor

[robust lark]

goofball

[severe belfry]

peak

[umbral herald]

have you changed the gale data directory?

[nova sandal]

Does it currently support adding mods that are not on thunderstore, (the way modrynth allows you to install a mod from file by selecting the corresponding .jar file)

[primal barn]

You can import mods not on thunderstore easily

Import -> local mod -> select the mod and it’s added

[nova sandal]

K thanks

[limpid gull]

ad webfishing plox... . .. . . .

[kindred stag]

I remember when automod snipped my ass when I mass reported untagged modpacks because I didn’t notice one had the R slur

[tranquil cradle]

https://thunderstore.io/c/webfishing/ 👀

[tranquil cradle]

I've been slowly cleaning those out, it takes so damn long haha

[primal barn]

It happens to the best of uss

Typos can mean alot in dangerous sayings

[tranquil cradle]

The things us janitors see on the thunderstore sometimes.. haha

[primal barn]

Especially as you can't change the name after making it so you cant correct it

[stiff quest]

15:12:13 [ERROR] Failed to duplicate profile: File or directory not found (os error 2).
15:12:22 [ERROR] Failed to duplicate profile: Profile with name 'ScanNodeTesting' already exists.

It did copy a lot of mods into the directory... Though, none of them are shown in the gui

[solar vale]

Moving mods up/down the pack is bugged
if the page doesnt need to scroll at all then its fine
but attempting to move a mod across multiple pages where it has to scroll, results in the 2 mods swapping places
Notice BepInEx then dissapearing when i moved that other mod to the top
So right now you need to gradually move it down the list, 1 screen at a time to avoid it teleporting the mods up/down the list

this isnt just with whatever mod is at the top, any mod ofc

[main plume]

yea this been known

#1246088342458863618 message

[solar vale]

i see i see

whats weird is that it didnt happen for me before

in one of the 0.9 versions

[umbral herald]

That message is old

[main plume]

yea

it's just the earliest i could find

[umbral herald]

Not sure why it's happening now

[bleak token]

just a question about Gale in case anyone else has already seen this before! I ported over my profiles from r2modman which included a LethalPosters mod, but when I launched the game with Gale I was getting this error in the console (and obviously the posters didn't load in game)

checking the profile directory, it's true this folder doesn't exist on the path

but when I check the manual download for that mod, it does have the posters directory, it's just empty (which ends up working as intended)

I guess my question is whether or not Gale might be removing empty directories when installing mods or not or if anyone knows of a way to fix this other than manually creating the directory (which is what I did already to get it working haha)

to me it kind of feels like LethalPosters shouldn't be exploding if that directory doesn't exist, and I guess I could write a patch for that, but I digress haha

[obtuse jetty]

Ooh so it's Gale's fault? I also had that error and never found what broke that mod.

[bleak token]

ohhh solidarity!! I think it might be a Gale thing but I'd need Bobbo to confirm if that sounds possible

fresh installing vs importing a profile has the same result with Gale, but I don't get it with r2modman of course

[umbral herald]

Yeah Gale doesn't create empty directories

(specifically it only creates the directories that lead up to each file)

I feel like the mod should handle that

many programs already ignore empty directories, for example git