Gale

[sudden walrus]

i dont wanna push you on this because i know you've been bugged about it a lot, but do you think this will fix the reordering stuff? as someone who really likes organizing my mod list that's like the only big issue i have with gale currently

[umbral herald]

Probably not

But maybe I'll redo the whole thing

I'm thinking of separating the mod list and profile page. Currently they're using the same components, but it's getting very leaky. Also from a UX perspective they serve very different purposes

Probably gonna take some inspiration from modrinth

first one profile, second one browsing

time to bring out my trusty r2 source scraper

[sudden walrus]

that's great actually, i really like modrinth's ui

[umbral herald]

30 lines of python

[narrow berry]

See reordering my mods is like the one thing I don't care about lmao. I just want an option to make Alphabet sorting the default so I can easily find mods by name. (There might be a config for that, I might be dumb, I haven't looked.)

[umbral herald]

If you set it to alphabetical it should save between sessions

otherwise there's a bug

[ionic harness]

Bahahaha

[narrow berry]

Weird, mine hasn't I don't think but I will double check

[umbral herald]

wait it might have broke completely

[ionic harness]

You'd be surprised how many people care VERY DEEPLY about ordering/sorting/filtering.
Like so deep to mutiny when forced sorting was a thing.

[narrow berry]

It just keeps going back to Custom but that might actually be because I keep updating Lunxara's pack

[narrow berry]

Yeesh XD

[umbral herald]

Yeah, you can see they actually have funding and a team lol

[sudden walrus]

that reminds me, could it be made so that these filters save in the mod list? i have a few categories that i don't ever want to see, and it doesn't save between sessions

[umbral herald]

it's very polished

[ionic harness]

The first rule of software development:

• All users will always be unhappy at all times.

[umbral herald]

I did implement that at one point but it isn't working now

[ionic harness]

I mean, I could be convinced, what's your $ need look like? Feel free to DM that answer lol.

I've got some Philippines people I trust to manage large infrastructure, 24/7 coverage, 3 devs + 1 PM.

[umbral herald]

Personally I don't want to lead a team

[ionic harness]

That's what the PM is for 😄 So you only need to put features in a board and they just work on it.

[umbral herald]

arent you cooking with concrete too?

[ionic harness]

Yup, Concrete relies on LethalModding.com though, entirely different priorities. (I don't think this is a bad thing.)

You want to maintain ThunderStore compatability, I absolutely refuse to be bound by their limitations, etc.

[umbral herald]

I think if someone is building a real thunderstore app with a real team it should be thunderstore and not me

and btw, I'm not 18 yet

soon though

[ionic harness]

Most of Thunderstore isn't.

[umbral herald]

what I'm trying to say is don't give me money xD

[sudden walrus]

that's the kind of thing you only say when you want people to give you money

[umbral herald]

sure

https://github.com/ebkr/r2modmanPlus/blob/develop/src/r2mm/installing/profile_installers/ModLoaderVariantRecord.ts

🫠

[ionic harness]

How do you think I got staff on this server?

I kept telling people "don't give me staff, don't give me power, don't make me admin" and what happened to that? 😄

[narrow berry]

Lmao

[pastel grove]

i will gladly accept his money dont worry

[narrow berry]

Update LethalToolbox first and I'll give you money when I have it

I don't have a job rn

[umbral herald]

we have reached a thousand lines 🎉

This really needs to be cleaned up

[short star]

Fwiw this is a valid response for r2mm because I believe the priorities of the managers are different - r2mm is designed for first-time users, and they will always be my target audience. Requests to make things easier for developers at the expense of a user messing things up is unlikely to pass

[short star]

this is so we don’t have people overwriting core mod loader libraries

[umbral herald]

Yeah ik, just I wish thunderstore had a better way of handling it

instead of nothing

[short star]

Yeah that’s fair

I thought you were shaming the fact I did it lmao

[umbral herald]

nah, it's also in gale now

[ionic harness]

But we can all agree to shame Thunderstore right? 😄

[dreamy yoke]

what do I do with this?

[ionic harness]

Could you upload Chaos.Diversity's configuration file? I'm curious if it's broken/missing fields (as the error shows.)

[dreamy yoke]

the mod itself is disabled tho, maybe I need to enable it first

[floral cargo]

Launcher dosen't launch on v60 ?

despite the beta being on on steam, the launcher launches on v56

[ionic harness]

The launcher just starts the game via Steam, so check the branch you have set in Steam, check for updates, etc.
Steam has a tendency to "queue game updates" and schedule them for the future, so check in "Downloads"

I had to explicitly start the download, it was "Scheduled" in my Steam, for example.

Also make sure your "beta participation" (branch) is set to "None" to ensure you get v60.

Failing that, "Verify Integrity of game files" generally fixes everything.

[floral cargo]

oh

oops

I though I had to use the beta lmao

my bad ;(

[ionic harness]

You're good, easy to mistake.

[floral cargo]

most updates usually goes this way so yeah

[ionic harness]

The tool Zeekers didn't update the beta branch -_-. That's their fault.

[crisp wyvern]

I just deleted 30min of entering moons by clicking two pixels too far right 😦
Can Gale move configs to the recycle bin when deleting them instead of hard deleting?

[robust lark]

applications are supposed to utilize the system recycle bin by default.. yea

[heady prism]

Best client ever

[kind ravine]

help

@umbral herald

[quasi ridge]

i've recently been having an issue with fetching mods on gale

any time i manually click "fetch mods" it gives me an error because mods are already being fetched

but no matter how long i wait that doesn't actually seem to be the case

the only way i've been able to refresh is by closing the entire client and reopening

(which isn't the end of the world, since it's so fast, but definitely a minor inconvenience)

[heady prism]

Is there a way to get the launch parameter for profile? to put it in Steam so it launches a profile by default

--doorstop-enable true --doorstop-target "Z:/home/damglador/.config/r2modmanPlus-local/LethalCompany/profiles/Default/BepInEx/core/BepInEx.Preloader.dll" --r2profile "Default"
This thing

[umbral herald]

Gale uses the same command, so you just have to switch out the path

[umbral herald]

This also happened to someone else and I don't know what it is

but I think they fixed it by just restarting the app

[strange pollen]

One thing I've noticed with v0.7.4, is that it still sometimes doesn't open the launcher

Like it opens then closes

[kind ravine]

we fixed it by running it as admin

[heady prism]

Yeah, I got it, but doing it manually every time is time consuming and annoying :(
Also doesn't work for Risk of Rain 2 for some reason, maybe I should try other Steam runtime or something idk.
--r2profile "*" also must be changed to the name of Gale profile?

[young sorrel]

I jumped in to working on my modpack again yesterday and updated Gale. It defaulted all my set directory's again, however this time I can not set it to anything else now. I uninstalled, went into App Data and deleted all gale folders. I reinstalled the latest MSI, but to my dismay it will still not work.

I need the directorys out of my Appdata as I do not have enough space on my main hard drive and not being able to reliably change Gale's Directorys on Windows 11 makes it unusable for me.

[umbral herald]

What's the error exactly?

[young sorrel]

Errored on Cache.

When I open settings this is what I see.

[umbral herald]

Might just be because you haven't installed any mods yet

try installing something

[young sorrel]

Same happens with the temp folder. Will try

Cannot create a profile either

[umbral herald]

uh oh

Does D:\Gale\data not exist?

[young sorrel]

it does indeed

[umbral herald]

hmm

Does the default folder in appdata exist?

[ionic harness]

Did you ever test crossing filesystem boundaries Bobbo? 😄

[umbral herald]

Yeah

[umbral herald]

I meant AppData\local\com.kesomannen.gale

[umbral herald]

I think it deleted the original folder and thus can't write any files there

in AppData\local\com.kesomannen.gale

[young sorrel]

nope still there

[umbral herald]

Something went horribly wrong

I guess just remove everything gale and start over

Install a mod before changing any of the settings

[young sorrel]

roger will try again. 😛

[umbral herald]

Sorry for all the bugs 😅

[young sorrel]

It only hurts my soul. 😭

But I love Gale so I will fight the fight with you!

[umbral herald]

lol

[young sorrel]

allright uninstalled and both gale folders manually deleted. Reinstalling

[umbral herald]

👍

I'm gonna fix this ofc

but I hope it works this way so you don't have to wait

[young sorrel]

https://tenor.com/view/good-luck-fingers-crossed-crossing-my-fingers-gif-8245675678764282913

[umbral herald]

6 GB 🥲

[young sorrel]

when it installs I will try to move.

[umbral herald]

Umm that's gonna take a while to move

[young sorrel]

fair. 1 sec

Lets just do more company. 😛

[umbral herald]

oof

I guess it's just broken

I'll try to get an update out as fast as possible

[young sorrel]

❤️

[thorn thunder]

is there any planned support for titanfall 2 mods?

i know titanfall has a page on thunderstore so i was wondering if thats possible

[hardy rover]

I really hate that of all gifs you chose to pick that one tbh

||I hate MiniLadd, the pedo pos||

[native shadow]

this ^

[young sorrel]

I literally had no idea who he was. I am not very internet culture or meme smart. Apologies. I shall delete it.

I would like to say I will not do it again but I have ADHD and as such a bad facial memory, so if you notice me do something silly again please do point it out. I do not like to offend others.

[ionic harness]

I honestly didn't even know who that was.

[young sorrel]

🤷‍♂️ all that matters is that it is gone. 😄

I will say though that I was so excited thinking @umbral herald was done and was hype. Then I realized instead that I did a bad... sadness..... haha

[bold hornet]

Lol

[umbral herald]

It uses a different mod loader which is why it's not here currently

but I do plan on adding support for others

[thorn thunder]

i figured as much. excited to see further updates though!

also having an issue. getting os error 2. i deleted the folder in localappdata and a folder i made in my lethal company modpack. seemed to fix gale but my modpacks are missing now. i have all the files from the modpacks and when i put them in their old folders named default they dont show up

it seems to recognize the configs

just not the mods

[umbral herald]

Yeah, it doesn't read the profile data from the folders directly

each profile has a profile.json file which you probably deleted

[bold hornet]

Idk if this was fixed or my friend was stupid but they were complaining to me earlier this morning that because they used a mod that was fully removed from thunderstore it kinda bugged gale out for em

[thorn thunder]

is there a way to generate a new one?

without losing all my mods

[umbral herald]

um

probably not sorry

Isn't the file in there though?

Or did you delete the whole folder and only copied out the mods under plugins?

[thorn thunder]

i deleted the folder

yeah

[thorn thunder]

i deleted the main folder but kept the folders labled risk of rain or lethal company

[umbral herald]

Can you check the contents of the profile.json file?

I don't know how it got reset

if it did

[umbral herald]

guess it got nuked somehow

[thorn thunder]

damn

[umbral herald]

do you still have the files in the trash can?

maybe you can recover it from there

[thorn thunder]

those were the files that were there

i never touched the files in those folders

just the other stuff

[umbral herald]

Wait I don't understand

didn't you delete the whole lethal-company folder?

[thorn thunder]

no

[umbral herald]

those files are under there

[thorn thunder]

i backed those up

in a folder

then just threw them back where they came from

[umbral herald]

ok, and the backed up profile.json files are also empty like that?

[thorn thunder]

i guess so

yeah

[umbral herald]

that's very strange

No idea why it did that

[thorn thunder]

yeah im pretty confused

[cunning rapids]

lol gale support apng

[robust lark]

hehe

[bold hornet]

fr, ty for robin for showing me that mod managers support apng

[bleak dagger]

caked up colossus

bit sussy

[pure token]

an option to show all disabled mods either on the top of the list or just them exclusively would be very helpful

[bleak dagger]

keep adding features and gale won't be so lightweight anymore

[sudden walrus]

yeah while we're at it let's just remove everything except the launch button. ultra lightweight

[green wind]

just remove the entire mod manager, zero resources taken

[robust lark]

delete all the mods, too

[runic laurel]

Wild icon for a library mod

[short star]

If you find that you’re disabling mods it’s probably a sign you should be using a new profile

[green wind]

My friends and I have a few enemy mods disabled currently while we wait for them to update to v60

[sudden walrus]

not unreasonable to have some stuff disabled during a game update period

[native shadow]

Some mods are great at certain times, like lethalvoice, brutal company, infected company and such and I myself keep them in the pack but disabled for ease of access and so I can have others enable it quickly.
And also as stated when mods break due to updates or sudden conflicts it's great to still have quick and simple information about when those mods updates

[hardy rover]

@umbral herald Running into an annoying issue

Gale is making a duplicate plugins folder for my mod

Why?

[umbral herald]

wdym?

Is it unpacking your mod in a weird way?

[hardy rover]

Yes

Is it cus I capitalized the p in Plugins on accident for the upload?

That's all I can guess

[umbral herald]

Yeah, it has to be exactly "plugins"

you can also omit that folder entirely

[robust lark]

case is important

[umbral herald]

https://github.com/ebkr/r2modmanPlus/wiki/Structuring-your-Thunderstore-package

gale follows the same rules as this

[hardy rover]

Yeah, for some reason it's not an issue with R2 so I happened to miss it

Lol

[umbral herald]

I guess r2 doesn't care about case

[robust lark]

it probably should

[hardy rover]

[robust lark]

windows is like the only OS where case doesn't matter, hehe

[ionic harness]

Everything other than Windows is case sensitive

[short star]

Not for override folders

If people develop on windows, we don’t expect them to call their folder the exact name and can infer things

If you call a folder “Plugins” it’s pretty clear that you want it in the “plugins” folder

[ionic harness]

It's a safe assumption on non-developer machines. But not elsewhere, even on Windows
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/wsl/case-sensitivity -- You can turn off case-insensitive NTFS.

https://github.com/dotnet/runtime/issues/48267 And very important here
The underlying file format (Zip), AND .NET/C#'s impl. are case-sensitive

[short star]

We aren’t dealing with developer environments and we change the case to match what we expect

[ionic harness]

Yeah, a safe assumption. Pretty safe to do, just requires an intentional workaround to do so. That's all I meant to point out.

[short star]

Point is that I was replying to the “it probably should” in that it shouldn’t

[ionic harness]

That's a matter of opinion though. And counter to both the file format and implementation of Zip handling in C#/.NET library.
A safe opinion though, an opinion I'd probably also make to save "90+%" of users, etc etc. Not disagreeing with the opinion.
I'd make sure to document that opinion tho. It's not expected by someone who understands the underlying implementations.

[short star]

because that’s how we get structure issues in random packages

because a windows dev called the override folder wrong

It’s not really opinion, it’s basically a requirement because there’s no validation on package contents

[ionic harness]

😄 That's the definition of a workaround. All discussions boil down to "Thunderstore is shit" 😛

[short star]

I don’t think it should validate package structure imo

If you want a new folder you’re then waiting on a site update regardless which would suck

[ashen light]

Help

Just updated to latest, now game won't launch

[heady prism]

Is this manager supposed to work with other games (Risk of Rain 2 for example)?

[ashen light]

yeah, it works with all thunderstore games

[umbral herald]

All the BepInEx games

which is most of them

[umbral herald]

Also not sure what this could be

[heady prism]

Hmmm, Im having troubles with that...

[umbral herald]

is the steam and game path correct?

[ashen light]

yes, double/triple checked

and it's only for Lethal, not other games

[umbral herald]

If you make a new profile and install BepInEx does it still happen?

[heady prism]

Oh, the manager is bricked, because "failed to launch Gale! Failed to initialize mod manager: failed to read profile manifest for 'Default'"

[umbral herald]

The file is probably corrupted somehow

[heady prism]

Okay, nuking all profiles

[umbral herald]

alr 😆

[ashen light]

new profile works fine... how weird

[heady prism]

Will be back to complain why it doesnt start games with mods

[ashen light]

thanks @umbral herald

[umbral herald]

It could be that BepInEx files got deleted when you updated

Some other people reported that a bit ago

[ashen light]

Good thing I could just export the whole profile and reinstall it!

You guys are the best

[heady prism]

it just fixed itself💀

[heady prism]

For some reason it can't load a lot of game icons (Linux)

[umbral herald]

those icons are missing

it's so boring to put them in 🫠

[heady prism]

got it

thats fine

[umbral herald]

0.7.5

Changed

• Move deleted config files to the trash instead of permanently deleting them

Fixed

• BepInEx being installed incorrectly on certain games
• Sorting and filtering options not persisting between sessions
• Expand config entry button covering the end of the text input
• Hopefully fixed issues related to moving the data, temp or cache directories

http://kesomannen.com/gale

I gotta update the screenshots

[young sorrel]

@umbral herald
So trying to change the directorys just cause gale to crash now. 😂 😭

Sry trying to change Data folder which initially worked now crashes.
Trying to change temp is the same error.

Same error with cache

I tried installing a mod. Same thing.

[umbral herald]

omg why

I have no idea what's causing that, everything worked fine for me

[ornate ravine]

Just tried the launcher for the first time. It looks promising, but I can't launch the game with steam on linux:

The extension is a .exe as it is launched with proton

[stiff quest]

[young sorrel]

I uninstalled and deleted all folders in Local and Roaming as well.

before reinstalling

[umbral herald]

Does it work just moving on the same drive?

[stiff quest]

Can you check if the game directory is correct?

[ornate ravine]

The first error is actually because I changed the directory to test

[umbral herald]

Not sure where the error comes from

if it didn't find the exe it would say that

[ornate ravine]

But I assume the second one also look for a game file without an .exe at the end

[umbral herald]

currently it searches only for exe extensions

[ornate ravine]

Nevermind I'm dumb, it's the directory name

[ionic harness]

Have you tried making a Local non-Admin user and seeing if Gale behaves differently?
Just in general when it comes to some of these little access bugs.

[young sorrel]

The wierd thing is that I have r2mod man on the same drive installed the same way I want gale to be installed and it works fine.

[ruby sonnet]

is there any way to use the mac native gale with whisky games

[warm topaz]

switching to valheim and then switching back to Lethal is giving me this error. For some reason Gale can find Valheim but can't find Lethal
00:45:02 [ERROR] Failed to launch game: The system cannot find the path specified. (os error 3).

didnt have this issue till 0.7.5

[native shadow]

I got that same error while trying to toggle mods in 0.7.4 after gale had been open for a while

[warm topaz]

relaunching gale doesn't help unfortunately :/

[native shadow]

Odd, all I did was close and open it, I'm still on the previous version though

[slender trellis]

I keep getting a message "Failed to initialize mod manager: Failed to read profile manifest. The system cannot find the file specified. (os error 2)."

Anyone know how to solve this? it happens every time I try and launch gale.

[robust lark]

#1246088342458863618

[slender trellis]

Is that supposed to lead me to a specific message or something because when I click that it takes me nowhere.

[umbral herald]

You have to go into gale's data folder and search for empty profiles

this was an issue caused by previous versions of gale

so I assume you're not on the latest?

[slender trellis]

I'm pretty sure I am

[slender trellis]

Do I find this in roaming?

[umbral herald]

it says in this corner of the home page

[umbral herald]

Think so, you can check in the gale settings

[slender trellis]

oh alright

Im not on the latest verision then

[umbral herald]

The in app update thingy broke so you have to update manually

[robust lark]

ya, weird, its gale's thread

[umbral herald]

This error is so odd

I literally cannot find where in the code it could happen

it should always give a bit more context at least

[warm topaz]

yeah sorry I cant give more info. I tried messing with the settings to try to force run to specifically lethal company but nothing changes

feels like it doesnt even try to find the game

which is odd because the second I switch back to valheim it runs perfectly fine lol

[umbral herald]

Have you tried both direct and steam mode on lc?

[warm topaz]

yes, didnt notice a difference lol

[umbral herald]

I guess that narrows it down a bit

still can't reproduce it though

[warm topaz]

I can prob just reinstall

would be helpful if the error had a bit more specific info tho

[umbral herald]

wait I think I found an issue

[warm topaz]

instead of saying "the path specified." could you put "at path: <filepath attempted>" ?

[umbral herald]

It's supposed to do that

[warm topaz]

oh wtf

[umbral herald]

it's a mystery error

[warm topaz]

[umbral herald]

fixed it but it shouldn't affect the launching

here are all the possible errors I could find in the launching code:

• game directory not found, please check your settings (expected at {})
• steam library directory not set
• instances must be greater than 0
• game executable not found
• steam executable not found at {}
• "steam executable path not set
• BepInEx preloader not found. Is BepInEx installed?
• error while reading BepInEx core directory (at {})

[warm topaz]

you know what, i think another issue might be that I had originally installed gale on my D drive but now it's currently on my c drive

maybe that's making it throw a fit

[umbral herald]

like the executable?

[warm topaz]

yeah I've had gale a while so I think when I installed the update manually (because the updater was broken) i forgot to set the right path and forgot about it

[umbral herald]

eh, shouldn't matter

it still puts all the data on the windows drive by default

[warm topaz]

yeah I originally had it on a diff drive

the mod manager that is

im just gonna reinstall and see if that helps at all

heh

[umbral herald]

lol

Shouldn't cause any issues though

[hardy rover]

Lmao

[umbral herald]

unless you're using the old one, since there's breaking changes between 0.7 and 0.6

[hardy rover]

I do wonder why both are installed

XD

[umbral herald]

probably forgot to uninstall the old one

[warm topaz]

guess I need to clear a cache 💀

[umbral herald]

since that was when the auto updater was broken

wait

can you go to file > open profile directory

[warm topaz]

AppData\Roaming\com.kesomannen.gale\lethal-company\profiles\for the group

[umbral herald]

seems correct

can you check if the BepInEx/core folder is there

[warm topaz]

oh its not

[umbral herald]

check inside of bepinex

[warm topaz]

yeah whoops wrong folder

meant to screenshot this lol

[umbral herald]

must be it

try just creating an empty one

the error might be different

[warm topaz]

new profile?

or empty folder in this one

[umbral herald]

empty core folder

[warm topaz]

🫡

new error

07:15:36 [ERROR] Failed to launch game: BepInEx preloader not found. Is BepInEx installed?.

[umbral herald]

now I know what the error is coming from

[warm topaz]

yeah at least now we know lol

[umbral herald]

but I wonder why it didn't install bepinex correctly 🤔

[warm topaz]

so uh, should I trash any profile that doesnt have the core folder?

or i guess I could reinstall the bepinex mod

[umbral herald]

yeah

was this profile imported from a code?

[warm topaz]

yeah it's there now

I think it was one of my old r2modman profiles

that i imported when I installed

[umbral herald]

oh right, I can see the _state folder is there

[warm topaz]

uninstalling bepinex (making sure not to install any mod that depends on it) and reinstalling fixed the issue tho

if you wanna have something to tell people who have the same issue

[umbral herald]

btw uninstalling bepinex is a lie

😆

[warm topaz]

oh?

[umbral herald]

it doesn't actually delete any files

[warm topaz]

oh LMAO

[umbral herald]

since bepinex is installed differently and I just couldn't bother making an edge case

[warm topaz]

I see hahaha

[umbral herald]

but yeah

[warm topaz]

I mean you only support bepinex mods rn anyway

[umbral herald]

I'm gonna try to fix it first and foremost

[warm topaz]

so it doesnt make sense to want to uninstall it

[umbral herald]

ye exactly

[warm topaz]

crazy idea but, why not just force every new profile to have bepinex preinstalled for any game that requires it?

[umbral herald]

that has been a suggestion before but I can't guarantee it has fetched bepinex when you create a new profile (for example when you boot gale up initially and it creates the default profile)

and if you install any mod it installs bepinex automatically anyway

[warm topaz]

well, the mod has to depend on bepinex

I found this out once when I put a mod out and didnt depend on it and wondered why it wasnt working

[umbral herald]

sounds like a skill issue

[warm topaz]

fair

[umbral herald]

I just don't think it's worth the complexity for something that doesn't matter like 99% of the time

[warm topaz]

yeah I dont blame you

im just thinking of how my friends will fuck up and I will need to walk them through fixing it

[umbral herald]

I still dont know what the root cause of the issue is

i imported from r2modman and it worked fine

does the same profile work in r2?

[warm topaz]

yeah I think it was moreso an issue of a profile being migrated from first install of gale

it was a really old profile on r2modman that I just hit update all on

yeah folder structure looks fine from r2modman for the same profile

i'll try importing it again for you

[umbral herald]

alr

[warm topaz]

yeah this profile is too old lmao

thats that one library that got nuked and the dev uploaded under a new package

[umbral herald]

can you try making a new profile in gale and see if bepinex installs correctly?

[warm topaz]

sure

[umbral herald]

yeah that was stupid

[umbral herald]

looks like there's an issue with r2 importing then

thanks for helping to narrow it down

[warm topaz]

np, want me to make a blank r2 profile and then import?

[umbral herald]

sure

[warm topaz]

looks fine to me

think it's probably just a case of old profiles not being able to find specific mods and it stops the import process

[umbral herald]

maybe

[warm topaz]

on another note, can I make a kinda niche feature request?

Would it be possible to specify an alternate path for a profile? In the case of Valheim I'm managing my mods with gale (used to do so with r2) and then copying the bepinex folder over to where my server stuff is located. It'd be nice if I could just specify the path for gale to modify directly

[umbral herald]

Yeah, I was actualy planning to do that

but not before I have a stable 1.0

[warm topaz]

valheim has it's server stuff at "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Valheim dedicated server" for example

[umbral herald]

since it would require quite a few changes and probably introduce tons of bugs 🥲

[warm topaz]

fair enough, completely understand prioritizing stability

Just figured i'd ask because that's the one thing I wish any mod manager would do for valheim

[umbral herald]

would also be useful for making mods in unity

instead of dragging all the dlls in

[warm topaz]

👀

well, I do appreciate the work you've done so far. I've recommended gale to basically anyone I play modded with

[umbral herald]

I appreciate you for using it :D

I made it delete profiles that fail to import from r2

probably fixes the issue with corrupted bepinex installations

[warm topaz]

[heady prism]

Should I update Gale in the app if I installed it from AUR?

[ionic harness]

Yo @umbral herald #help-and-troubleshooting how do we instruct people to get the log/deplist from Gale?
In r2mm/tsmm it's "use settings search for log and dep"

[umbral herald]

File > Open game logs and Profile > Copy dependency strings

[ionic harness]

Then for logs, similar thing? I know, stupid question, just don't have Gale on this PC to check myself lol.

[umbral herald]

gale logs?

[ionic harness]

Nah, the last player log, lastoutput.log, etc

[umbral herald]

Yeah File > Open game logs

[ionic harness]

Hmm.. consider adding a feature like tsmm/r2mm which copy-pastes the log in Discord formatting w/ a code block etc.

[umbral herald]

(I said it in the first message 😛 )

Isn't it usually too long to be pasted?

[ionic harness]

Idk, but this button makes it easy for people to find, as they can just type discord or log or copy or w/e

[ionic harness]

Image from my issue template on GitHub lol

[umbral herald]

well, there's no searching in gale

[ionic harness]

True

Maybe an option somewhere in that menu to copy a pre-formatted msg with both then? Specifically for people asking for help?
Just skip having two separate steps and trips to Discord entirely.

• maybe a few extra useful bits of debug information, such as OS/ver, launcher/ver, etc?
  Something to make it shit simple to help people in #help-and-troubleshooting , #1185732310700654732 etc

[umbral herald]

That could be cool yeah

[young sorrel]

Sadly all my profiles were downloads from thunderstore and not code imports.

[near wigeon]

Is it a known bug that when you try to change the data directory gale just closes?

[umbral herald]

Yeah, I'm trying to fix it rn

[vital mason]

i have a request for you @umbral herald:
AsyncLoggers V2 for reasons uses an xml file as one of the config files.
i'm not asking you to support the format, but i'd like for gale to acknowledge that there is a text file and list it in the configEditor as an unsupported format or smh. so users can see there is another file and click on the button to open it in an external editor
🤔

[ionic harness]

Should probably be doing so far all these files (if not parsing them):
.ini .cfg .cnf .conf .hjson .json .jsonc .toml .xml .yaml .yml
That should just about cover all standard text file configuration formats.

[short star]

Discord will convert it to a file if it’s too long

We handle the limit and if it’s short enough then we wrap with discord formatting, otherwise as-is

[granite skiff]

Windows is blocking the 0.7.5x64 msi package and labeling it as Wacatac.B!ml. Most likely a machine learning false positive as I ran the installer thru virustotal and it was clean. Just wanted to let you know.

[ionic harness]

Mmmm... Wacatac.B!ml is a very common false-positive. @umbral herald Looks like you gotta submit your installers to MSDV for whitelisting 😄

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/wdsi/filesubmission -> Software Developer -> Login -> Information (leave IS number blank.)

[sudden slate]

Hi, i keep getting this error when trying to launch lethal company from gale Failed to launch game - The system cannot find the path specified. (os error 3). i've tried everything but i cant seem to make it work

(including reinstalling windows)

[heady prism]

I've managed to make Gale work with Linux version of Enter the Gungeon, now I can confidently say that Gale > r2modman

Literally impossible to do in r2modman

[sudden walrus]

clicking on these links in the update all screen sometimes freezes gale

[iron wharf]

Find any fix to this? I barely have storage on my main drive so I need to move these folders to a new drive and the app just crashes as soon as I change the location

[young sorrel]

Bobo is fixing it still.

I am using R2 modman for now

[short star]

Create a symlink

[pallid sky]

Hello!
I'm sure this is a Gale issue.
I have a large modpack.
Split into different branches for each mod type.

All of them, when joined together, create the megalophobia modpack.
Each of these branches has its respective config with the aim of allowing users to download the branch separately for their taste, among the most notable is Cosmophobia which has 500 more downloads than the original modpack has.

Each of these branches I upload through Gale's modpack upload tool

But it turns out that some .cfg files are not uploading correctly.
Or they are simply not uploading at all.

I have a mod called "Longer_Days" that extends the length of each minute in the game by one exact second, as opposed to 0.7 which is the vanilla minute time.

This mod is in the "Mechanophobia" branch that modifies general aspects of the game

When uploading it, and downloading it in the original modpack, this cfg file is not being saved, generating its value to the default that the mod has (0.5x slower) unlike the change I have made to it.

I am afraid that other .cfg files are presenting the same problem, changing more important aspects of the cfg

[umbral herald]

I downloaded the pack and it does contain a Damir.longerDayMod.cfg with this in it:

## Settings file was created by plugin longerDay v1.0.0
## Plugin GUID: Damir.longerDayMod

[General]

## The speed of time, game default is 1f.
# Setting type: Single
# Default value: 0.5
timeSpeed = 0.5

Are you sure the source one is different?

[pallid sky]

The one you showed me is the Default, but I had saved it as 1

[umbral herald]

Can you check the contents of the file

[pallid sky]

contents?

[umbral herald]

this button

[pallid sky]

isn't the .cfg supposed to be saved?

[umbral herald]

Yeah, that's odd

can you try exporting the modpack to a file and check the exported cfg file?

[pallid sky]

hmm, it saved

I'm confused

ok, I'll try pushing an update

[umbral herald]

yeah, do that

No idea what happened earlier

[umbral herald]

I tried to fix as much as I could

0.7.6

Removed

• Temp directory setting in favor of using the system's temp directory with automatic cleanup

Fixed

• Parity with r2modman's mod structure format, which should solve gale-specific mod issues
• Failed r2modman profile imports creating corrupted profiles
• Crash when changing the data directory setting
• Improve profile and export modpack performance by doing more work in-memory

[pallid sky]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Megalophobia/MEGALOPHOBIA/
Checking if this update has the fix of the "Longer day" mod

[pallid sky]

also thx

[umbral herald]

Seems fixed now

[pallid sky]

I'll make sure if it downloads correctly

time to wait 40-70 minutes :,]

[umbral herald]

damn

even with cached mods?

I just clicked manual download on thunderstore to get the config files

[pallid sky]

hmm, nope

idk what it could be

[cursive cedar]

I'm using Gale to configure UnlockOnStart, and the "Modded" config section is displaying string boolean values. It looks like it's because the config file doesn't include the "Setting type" (or "Default value") notations for LethalConfig? Unfortunately, it seems like this makes it impossible to change the setting in Gale. Any change to the string values is reset when you leave that config page in Gale. I can confirm that changing the value in the file itself works.

It would be great to show a button next to config fields missing their datatypes, allowing the user to specify the missing datatype (and default value?) without needing to edit the file itself.

[pure token]

having a bit of an interesting issue

[sudden walrus]

could some sort of support for multiple config files be added? biodiversity comes with 4 separate configs but they're all labeled the same thing, making it very confusing

[umbral herald]

Maybe the same file exists in another part of the modpack and is being overwritten?

[umbral herald]

You're correct this is for entrys that don't have any metadata attached. The field not saving is definitely a bug, but I've just realized this is probably caused by "orphaned entries". That is, a mod updating to no longer use those config entries but them still being left in the file. I installed the mod to create a fresh config file and it doesn't have a section called "Modded", so this seems to be the case.

I'm gonna look into the cause a bit more, but I'll probably make it automatically delete these entries.

[cursive cedar]

UnlockOnStart creates those keys when the game is first launched with modded furniture items. You can verify the behavior pretty easily with the sofa from ShipHomeDecor. After the entry is written, enable it and relaunch with a fresh save file and the sofa will correctly spawn as default furniture. The orphaned string values are probably the result of me tearing down and rebuilding the mod set earlier today.

Automatically stripping those would probably work, assuming they're correctly written the next time the game launches... but if that doesn't happen (for example, if a mod is lazily written to use implicit string config types), it becomes a hard conflict. This is just my two cents, but maybe display a warning indicator next to the config file with a button to clear the affected entries (or force a particular type)?

[umbral herald]

I think the best solution is to just hide them from the UI

[cursive cedar]

That would have made my issue earlier really hard to identify unless I opened the config file manually. I wouldn't have even known those values existed, let alone that they were improperly declared.

(Because the config wasn't being corrected OR cleared, by the mod itself, by LethalConfig, or by Gale.)

(...and wasn't being removed when the problematic mod was uninstalled and reinstalled.)

[umbral herald]

That's up to the mod to clean up entries that are not longer valid

[cursive cedar]

Yes, clearly, but why turn that into a conflicting behavior rather than flagging the issue to the user?

Erase the config, or flag the config, but silently hiding that part of the config just masks such issues. The less-opinionated design approach is usually the most flexible solution

[slender trellis]

I downloaded a mod that has 0 dependents and gale keeps making 4 seperate config files for that 1 mod, is this a gale issue or the mod issue? The mod is biodiversity.

[umbral herald]

My thinking is if you, for example, install a moon with LLL. LLL is then going to generate config entries for that moon. If you disable or uninstall the moon, those entries are going to become orphaned. Gale displaying those entries to the user is unhelpful since LLL doesn't read them at all.

However if you decided to reenable/reinstall the moon, then those entries would be un-orphaned and their previous values read by LLL. If Gale would have deleted them that data would be gone

[cursive cedar]

@slender trellis this?

[slender trellis]

yes that

It does that for me

[umbral herald]

The mod generates 4 files but gale takes the name from the metadata inside the files, which all point to Biodiversity

I'll try to find a solution to it

[slender trellis]

Ok thanks, it's not a big deal its just weird and I'd rather have 1 config file you know

[umbral herald]

Yeah, but that's up to biodiversity

gale should definitely display them in a better way though

[cursive cedar]

Ah yeah that makes sense... so for me earlier today, when I reinstalled the mods, the config entries were preserved but the data types were never written to them again. You're right that the mod dev should be the one to address that ideally, but once the config is in that state it doesn't really matter: having the ability to nuke those entries in Gale with a single click without deleting the whole file and losing other (still good) values would still be really handy.

[umbral herald]

Yeah I guess, but at the end of the day those are just ~2 lines of text per entry

it doesn't hurt to have them lying around

[cursive cedar]

I'm not sure what you mean by this

[cursive cedar]

I know I've just thrown a bunch of stuff at you lmao... but this reminds me: it would be super cool if the config search performed keyword matching against individual config variable names as well. Powerful for identifying potential conflicts.

https://tenor.com/view/steve-ballmer-microsoft-windows-developers-dance-gif-9638716

[umbral herald]

the disk space taken by the gale code to implement that would probably take more space than it would save xD

[cursive cedar]

I mean I wasn't talking about removing the metadata only, if that's what you mean

[umbral herald]

I've also thought about it and it has been suggested before, but I think performance would be a concern

and many config entries lack context by themselves

but actually would not be hard to implement, maybe I'll test it out

[crystal pagoda]

in the current version boolean tickboxes and lists are broken

for me, anyways

[umbral herald]

this is the same "issue" that we've discussed above

those are orphaned entries which means they didn't get read by any mod

you probably have grand armory disabled

[crystal pagoda]

um, i dont though, i was just playing on it

all the LLL entries are like this, even the vanilla ones

[umbral herald]

oh

Can you check the file's content?

[pastel grove]

https://tenor.com/view/scottpilgrim-window-gif-18515462

[crystal pagoda]

you mean this?

[umbral herald]

Yeah, looks like LLL did an oopsie

[crystal pagoda]

maybe something just broke when i updated my launcher

let me try restarting the game

[umbral herald]

I don't think this is a gale issue

[hardy rover]

No this isn't a LLL issue

You need to load a save first for the config entries to generate

They become Orpheaned otherwise

This has been a thing

Entries don't become active til you load a save

[crystal pagoda]

I wonder what caused them to become this way then? because I've played on a save with this configuration just earlier

[hardy rover]

So boot game, load a save, quit out and quit the game and it will fix it

[hardy rover]

If you ever booted the game and quit without loading a save it will do it

[crystal pagoda]

ohhh, i think i did

[hardy rover]

Yeah

[pastel grove]

then its an LLL issue

[hardy rover]

It's not a bug with LLL lol

[hardy rover]

I mean this has been like this for several updates though, I figured it was intended tbh

[pastel grove]

sick but like

its not your mod

[hardy rover]

I know lol I just never considered it a bug

😅

[pastel grove]

thats fine, you don't need to speak on the behalf of every single dev in the server

espicially when those devs are actively responding

it's really exhusting having to correct a response that was never asked for

[vital mason]

well technically it's a BepInEx bug.. but it's up to the Mod devs to work around it, or just notify the users about the behaviur

[pastel grove]

@umbral herald I'm guessing it's something to do with me binding on two different occasions? I have some general settings I can bind right away but the content configs have to wait until your in the lobby because that's when i have access to everything

[crystal pagoda]

all of my entries still appear to be like this even after loading into a save and playing

[vital mason]

i should handle this situations too in my mods... i just dont as of now 😅

[crystal pagoda]

i imagine deleting the config would fix it but i kinda dont wanna find out

[hardy rover]

Weird, did you keep the config up the whole time?

[umbral herald]

I dunno

[crystal pagoda]

No I assumed that would make it get stuck

[hardy rover]

Check your log if you can

See if a mod is preventing something from loading or is erroring

[vital mason]

you'd need to take manual control of the Saving f your config File, by default BepInEx overwrites it every time you Bind a config

[umbral herald]

I don't know why that would cause them to get orphaned
https://github.com/BepInEx/BepInEx/blob/v5-lts/BepInEx/Configuration/ConfigFile.cs#L278C1-L282C6

seems like it would just try to remove them from the orphaned list again

which should fail silently

[pastel grove]

is it easier to just move my general settings to another file

[crystal pagoda]

but my configs are loading

[umbral herald]

BepInEx bug?

[crystal pagoda]

these are the weights ive set

[pastel grove]

data for march should be fine

boys a liar

[vital mason]

it's this

[crystal pagoda]

ill check my logs anyways

[cunning rapids]

just restart gale to see new changes in config

[pastel grove]

so what do i actually do there? flick off before general settings, bind then flick back on?

[vital mason]

and then manually do this once you need to save the file

[pastel grove]

oh

[crystal pagoda]

yeah ive done that

[pastel grove]

see i like these solutions because i just add 3 lines to the mod and don't have to think about anything probably

[umbral herald]

(you can also go to another page and back)

[pastel grove]

to confirm though, this is caused by me saving after general settings are bound but before content settings are?

[vital mason]

remember that if you do this, you will not generate the default file unless you call the .Save

[umbral herald]

won't this break LethalConfig?

[pastel grove]

none of my shit supports lethalconfig anyway

[umbral herald]

alright xD

[vital mason]

not really, LethalConfig reads the Config class not the file on disk

[umbral herald]

But if you set a value it won't save, right?

unless LethalConfig explicitly calls Save

[pastel grove]

ok well this will be in next lll update

[vital mason]

nope you would need to handle the saving yourself

[crystal pagoda]

why does it say that? i never noticed that before

[vital mason]

with the ConfigEntry.OnValueChanged event

[pastel grove]

not my stuff i dunno

[crystal pagoda]

weird

i wonder if its wesley's

doesnt LLL add the simulate command?

[pastel grove]

ye but that text is from something else

whatevers formatting it like that maybe

[crystal pagoda]

i think its probably wesley's moons/interiors

unless terminal formatter patches that

but i dont think it does

anyways i didnt notice anything in my logs, LLL configs are loading properly, so idrk. not too big of a deal to me was just pointing that out

[vital mason]

also @pastel grove you might be intrested in this #1205519828857651220 instead of just calling Save. also removing ophans.. ( might or might not be desirable behavior for your mod )

[pastel grove]

that one is probably too scary of a bear to poke

[vital mason]

i've used a compromise for FurnitureLock and just added a button ingame ( yes i had to support LethalConfig ) to allow users to manually clear the orphans

[umbral herald]

Probably shouldn't remove auto generated orphans

since if you temporarily disable a moon or whatever those settings are going to get deleted

[crystal pagoda]

Oh and I should also mention that this button hasn't really worked for a bit. It opens another instance of Gale regardless if its open already or not and then proceeds to do nothing

it worked before

[vital mason]

yeah. for his mod it might be better to keep the orphans alive

[umbral herald]

yeah ik, I've been trying to find a fix but can't find anything

[crystal pagoda]

oh well

[strange pollen]

Thats from TerminalFormatter I believe

[short star]

You could always modify the registry yourself programatically

There'll be a handler somewhere for ror2mm (if not you need to create an entry) and then point it to the manager executable

I'm unsure how it works for Linux

[pallid sky]

I've just checked and no.
There are no other branch who has this cfg

[tepid brook]

Maybe it's just me but Gale 0.7.6 can't install LethalCompany_InputUtils properly (can't find AssetBundles) but older profiles created before the update doesn't have this problem, only newly created/imported profiles. I also tested a new profile with just this mod installed

[umbral herald]

Seems like it's just you

Maybe the cache got messed up somehow?

can you click here and show the contents of the LethalCompanyInputUtils folder inside?

[tepid brook]

Yeah I see that it's not exactly how it should look like

[umbral herald]

Try clearing your mod cache and reinstalling

[tepid brook]

Yep thanks, this did the trick 👍

[umbral herald]

np

[pallid sky]

Hello!
It's me bothering again

I'm noticing that this problem is when loading/downloading the modpack in Gale

sometimes it just doesn't load the config

and sometimes it does it

[severe belfry]

I had the issue too (same thing fixed it of course)

[native shadow]

You know with all these reports that happened after 0.7.5 I'm scared to move up from 0.7.4 😅

[steady dew]

what does this mean, im not a coder

[umbral herald]

the version might already exist, or you specified the wrong author name

[steady dew]

ooooooh

[umbral herald]

You mean download the files or display them in the editor?

[pallid sky]

Download the files

[umbral herald]

All the files or just a few?

[pallid sky]

Only that config :']

[restive girder]

Hey, a friend of mine has been having problems - whenever they launch Gale they get this error. We sat down and reinstalled it but we're still getting it.

[pallid sky]

I made 2 profiles, in the 1st everything downloaded correctly, but in the 2nd the Longer_Days config was set to default

I downloaded the same mpdpack

[umbral herald]

Go into gale's data folder and go into lethal-company/profiles and delete the BepInEx folder. This is caused by an older version of gale, so it shouldn't come back again

[restive girder]

Alright, we'll do that thanks!

[umbral herald]

It might be that the mod includes a default .cfg file which overrides the one by the modpack, or vice versa

The installation order is not deterministic unfortunately

[pallid sky]

Oof

Is there a way to fix it?

[umbral herald]

Ill see if its actually the case

otherwise I could make mods not overwrite any files, I think that is the preferred way actually

or wait that wouldnt solve it

since then if the modpack comes after it won't overwrite the existing files

[hushed shale]

yipee!!! 🔥 works now thanks

[umbral herald]

yup, it has the config file in here

Ideally mods shouldn't contain any default configuration

hmm idk

I guess fork the mod xD

[pallid sky]

Lol, how

[umbral herald]

Download it, remove the file, upload it again

seems to be permitted by the original nexus mods page

[pallid sky]

Oh, kk

[pallid sky]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Megalophobia/Longer_Day/
:]

[heady prism]

Can config name use Folder/File for its name if there is a folder with configs for a mod, or a double collapse menu? It shows like that in a config editor on the top, but not in the list

[umbral herald]

This is better in the coming update

[heady prism]

Okay

[narrow berry]

Minor issue but the installer really needs to ask if I want to create a Desktop Shortcut instead of just automatically making one

[green wind]

Most installers ask tho lol

asking is nice cause I like having a very clean desktop even tho I don't use the installer so it doesn't really matter

[hardy rover]

I'm surprised to see someone even still using LethalUtilities cus it broke a little way back in V50 and hasn't been updated

[narrow berry]

That's what I'm saying, this one doesn't ask

So whenever I update it makes a Desktop Icon

[green wind]

I misunderstood what you were saying then lol

I've never used the installer since I just used the aur package but then I checked for updates for fun and I can't get the Update Available thing off my screen since the aur isn't updated lol

[heady prism]

Works perfectly for me, maybe some areas of it are broken, I use only teleporter stuff

[proud hawk]

is it possible to detect which config files are leftover from unused/uninstalled mods?

[umbral herald]

cool

[umbral herald]

Not really unfortunately

[umbral herald]

That's the default behaviour and it's a pain to customize

I'm also really annoyed by it

[turbid hare]

the Linux installer works like this

[quasi ridge]

it looks like gale incorrectly installs inpututils

i was importing a friend's proifle code and it is completely broken

i'm not sure when this issue starting occurring because inpututils hasn't updated in a couple months and it was already installed correctly on my other profiles

[heady prism]

But the right way to install stuff is via package managers☝️🤓

[umbral herald]

No idea why it does that sometimes

I can't replicate it

[quasi ridge]

it happened consistently for me 3 times in a row

[umbral herald]

Yeah, you have to clear your cache in that case

[quasi ridge]

ah i see

[umbral herald]

omg I finally fixed the Install with Mod Manager

it was all because of tauri's shitty documentation

we are so back

[umbral herald]

woah

[steep dagger]

Nice custom backgrounds lol

[umbral herald]

I finally changed the scrollbar

now it's not hideous anymore 🥳

[marsh eagle]

I suggestion

if it exist already but is there way to edit item off set position and rotation?

[umbral herald]

Um what

[marsh eagle]

items have offsets for position and rotation.

when you hold it

[umbral herald]

I think youre in the wrong thread

[marsh eagle]

debug tool that cant debug items

[umbral herald]

The mod in that video isnt my mod

Just an example

Heres the imperiul thread https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1225942840282976316

[marsh eagle]

oh sorry

I got it confused

mb

[dense void]

how do i make it install with mod manager option?

it makes mine open r2modman

[quick lion]

it's bugged atm

[umbral herald]

not anymore 😜

0.7.7

Added

• Profile > Copy debug info button for easier troubleshooting

Changed

• Hide orphaned config entries in the config editor
• List other common config file formats in the config editor

Fixed

• Re-added CLI (oops)
• FINALLY fixed the "Install with Mod Manager" button on Thunderstore
• Various issues related to config file names with non-UTF8 characters
• Multiple config files from the same mod being displayed with the same name
• Decrease config load time by reading files in parallel
• Various UI issues

[past bane]

nothing bad right?

Coroner's language xml's show up for some reason

[hardy rover]

Yeah this is intended

xml support was requested by Matty and Damon

[past bane]

good to know

[hardy rover]

Also you shouldn't be using Coroner rn anyways since it has issues so you can delete those

[umbral herald]

Don't know why they are in the config directory

not really config files

[hardy rover]

cus Coroner puts them there lol

Ask the Coroner dev ig

[umbral herald]

Yeah, ik, but a weird decision

[dreamy yoke]

what issues?

[trail helm]

can someone help me i cannot open gale anymore

[umbral herald]

Can you send the logs? There should be a latest.log file in AppData/Roaming/com.kesomannen.gale

[umbral herald]

I needed to do it to get the install with mod manager button working, terribly terribly sorry

[trail helm]

no idea why half of it is english and the other half is my native language

wait

i figured it out myself im a dumbass...

going to delete the logs out of shame now

[umbral herald]

oke

[umbral herald]

Seems like there aren't any big bugs left

(I'm not fixing the dragging)

think I'm ready to release 1.0 soon and unleash gale on all the thunderstore communities

https://tenor.com/view/usagyuuun-fire-chaos-gif-26222067

gonna wait at least a couple of days in case anything comes up

[native shadow]

did you check out the thread I tagged you in over at #1277311191429021829 ?

that error makes it so gale can't open, there is no failsafe

[umbral herald]

i did not

[vital mason]

thanks for the extra file support

[unborn tide]

is there any easy way to adjust positions of mods

in the custom sort?

i had a bit of an organization system in the pack but

after an update

all added mods go to the top instead of the bottom

[unborn tide]

without having to say drag them all down to the position manually

while having to scroll to make sure something else didnt get accidently grabbed..

and that its still held by the mouse while doing so 😭

or maybe you could implement some way to select multiple and move their position at once?

if not wondering if theres some way to just edit the position by messing with some of gale's files?

[severe belfry]

easiest way is to simply just zoom out and drag and drop sadly

[bleak dagger]

xml is so painful in rust

I've had to give mental support to someone

(it can also be painfully slow)

[dreamy yoke]

how about this one

the mod(suit) stop working because the dll still .old file

but for some other mod, the mod still working because it did not touch the .dll (I think?)

this one is fine, but the .old still there

[hardy rover]

I've never had that happen tbh, it's more likely when disabling and enabling too quickly windows just doesn't have time to update the location

[dreamy yoke]

nope. when I disabled the mod, it just create two .old

it become .old.old

ahh, it only happens to two files from the bottom

[dreamy yoke]

nope, nvm

[umbral herald]

hmm ok

I’ll look into it

[proud hawk]

possible to add a button to view the changelog instead of opening the thunderstore link?

[sudden walrus]

would be nice

[fast halo]

agreed

for now you can just sort the modpack by last updated and check the changelogs that way

[heady prism]

For some reason
--doorstop-enable true --doorstop-target "Z:/home/damglador/.local/share/com.kesomannen.gale/riskofrain2/profiles/Default/BepInEx/core/BepInEx.Preloader.dll" --r2profile "Default" doesn't work if set in Steam launch options for RoR2 for starting the game with mods (mods work if started from Gale)
But --doorstop-enable true --doorstop-target "Z:/home/damglador/.local/share/com.kesomannen.gale/lethal-company/profiles/Default/BepInEx/core/BepInEx.Preloader.dll" --r2profile "Default"
Does work as a starting option for Lethal Company
Any possible way to fix that? (profile Default is there)
OS: Linux, tried with default and GE proton with both RoR2 and LC, LC works with both, RoR2 doesn't load mods

I think r2modman will work fine and after launching it with r2modman it will fix itself

oh, nvm, --doorstop-target must be --doorstop-target-assembly

but not for Lethal Company, thats weird

[umbral herald]

Yeah, some games use doorstop v4 rather than v3, which changes the arguments slightly

it's also --doorstop-enabled instead of --doorstop-enable , though that might not matter much

[heady prism]

Makes sense

[heady prism]

It was working before 0.7.7

[umbral herald]

Those files weren't in the list until 0.7.7

[heady prism]

oh

my bad

I thought that InfiniteEmote.json was the mod's config that I was able to edit before, but thats the other thing

[young sorrel]

@umbral herald
It is half fixed.

[dreamy yoke]

got this error

System.IO.FileNotFoundException: Could not find file "D:\Gale\lethal-company\profiles\SoLethalEssence\BepInEx\plugins\Zaggy1024-OpenBodyCams\openbodycams"
File name: 'D:\Gale\lethal-company\profiles\SoLethalEssence\BepInEx\plugins\Zaggy1024-OpenBodyCams\openbodycams'
  at System.IO.FileStream..ctor (System.String path, System.IO.FileMode mode, System.IO.FileAccess access, System.IO.FileShare share, System.Int32 bufferSize, System.Boolean anonymous, System.IO.FileOptions options) [0x0019e] in <787acc3c9a4c471ba7d971300105af24>:IL_019E 
  at System.IO.FileStream..ctor (System.String path, System.IO.FileMode mode, System.IO.FileAccess access, System.IO.FileShare share, System.Int32 bufferSize, System.IO.FileOptions options) [0x00000] in <787acc3c9a4c471ba7d971300105af24>:IL_0000 
  at (wrapper remoting-invoke-with-check) System.IO.FileStream..ctor(string,System.IO.FileMode,System.IO.FileAccess,System.IO.FileShare,int,System.IO.FileOptions)
  at BepInExFasterLoadAssetBundles.Patcher.LoadAssetBundleFromFileFast (System.String& path) [0x0000b] in ./Patcher.cs:81 
[11:38:36.7990475] [Error  :OpenBodyCams] Failed to load the asset bundle, some features may be missing.```

System.IO.FileNotFoundException: Could not find file "D:\Gale\lethal-company\profiles\SoLethalEssence\BepInEx\plugins\Piggy-Piggys_Variety_Mod\piggyvarietymod"
File name: 'D:\Gale\lethal-company\profiles\SoLethalEssence\BepInEx\plugins\Piggy-Piggys_Variety_Mod\piggyvarietymod'
  at System.IO.FileStream..ctor (System.String path, System.IO.FileMode mode, System.IO.FileAccess access, System.IO.FileShare share, System.Int32 bufferSize, System.Boolean anonymous, System.IO.FileOptions options) [0x0019e] in <787acc3c9a4c471ba7d971300105af24>:IL_019E 
  at System.IO.FileStream..ctor (System.String path, System.IO.FileMode mode, System.IO.FileAccess access, System.IO.FileShare share, System.Int32 bufferSize, System.IO.FileOptions options) [0x00000] in <787acc3c9a4c471ba7d971300105af24>:IL_0000 
  at (wrapper remoting-invoke-with-check) System.IO.FileStream..ctor(string,System.IO.FileMode,System.IO.FileAccess,System.IO.FileShare,int,System.IO.FileOptions)
  at BepInExFasterLoadAssetBundles.Patcher.LoadAssetBundleFromFileFast (System.String& path) [0x0000b] in ./Patcher.cs:81 
[11:41:03.7316844] [Error  :PiggyVarietyMod] Couldn't load assets: Object reference not set to an instance of an object```

[umbral herald]

could be related to the other issue you had with extra .old extensions

try reinstalling PiggyVaretyMod and OpenBodyCams

[dreamy yoke]

hhmm... is it because I changed the Data directory I wonder 🤔 at first I installed this app on C drive and I changed it to somewhere else

[umbral herald]

No, that's probably not it

can you check the folders of openbodycams and piggyvarietymod?

[umbral herald]

The speeed

this is with all the mods cached

but a new method that doesn't involve copying every mod, which makes it a lot faster, especially if you don't have the profile on a fast drive

[bleak dagger]

FASTER

[pallid sky]

Lol, thanks for using my modpack

[uneven ether]

Lord have mercy the quickness! xD

[static creek]

Yo so im havin this issue after using this for a while, not sure what to do

i have uninstalled and reinstalled and got nowhere so not sure where to go from here

[native shadow]

#1277311191429021829 only thing to do is delete the profile

[static creek]

problem is i cant find those files

i can find the exe, just not the files

[steep dagger]

did you check the app data?

[static creek]

i just found it

we're good

i looked over it

[static creek]

ty 🙏

[cunning rapids]

Sometimes gale crashes on start up

Faulting application name: gale.exe, version: 0.7.4.0, time stamp: 0x66b5c755
Faulting module name: gale.exe, version: 0.7.4.0, time stamp: 0x66b5c755
Exception code: 0xc0000409
Fault offset: 0x000000000088d839
Faulting process id: 0x0x355C

[dreamy yoke]

yup, probably because the .old extensions

[uncut kraken]

Hello! Just wanted to check in about the current status of launch argument (similar to r2) feature's progress.

[umbral herald]

soon

[uncut kraken]

Just had to know that it's still being worked on. Thanks!

[native shadow]

For some reason gale isn't loading the whole config on some profiles

This is what it's supposed to load

however, the config still contain all the info as opening it in an editor shows everything fine

[steep dagger]

Is it possible the entries got orphaned? Gale automatically hides orphaned entries

[sudden walrus]

oh yeah, that's probably it

all LLL entries get orphaned automatically if you launch the game but don't start a lobby

would like a config to turn this behavior off, sometimes its useful to see orphaned entries

[wise temple]

please help, i get this error when launching. even after reinstalling

[umbral herald]

Your data has been corrupted somehow

Go into gale's data folder and delete the manager.json file

[umbral herald]

If you open it in a text editor you get basically the same thing as gale would display

[wise temple]

I blue screened while it was open, surely it was that

[umbral herald]

Might be yeah

[frosty sorrel]

a suggestion, when right clicking on a mod this menu shows up (i've reposted this because you leaved a thumbs up reaction, but i guess that you forgot about it ._.)

[dreamy yoke]

very agree

[bleak dagger]

agreed

it'll make uninstalling mods like 4x easier

[sudden walrus]

you can at least see the orphaned entries in the text editor though

[umbral herald]

Completely forgot about this, sry

[frosty sorrel]

its ok :D

[umbral herald]

Well, you aren't supposed to edit those anyway, since they don't affect anything. Gale used to display them as just plain text fields, but that caused confusion and didn't offer any benefit over a text editor, even if you knew what you were doing. The LLL issue specifically I'd say is more a bug with LLL than with gale.

[sudden walrus]

i mean, i agree, but i would just like to be able to see everything in the manager. maybe when you get around to that advanced settings thing

[tender hare]

Does it download dependency’s in order?

My modpack has 4 sections core, cosmos, cosmetic and extra. Extra has all of the api and other things, this pack needs to be downloaded first. For example most moons do not update their lethal level loader dependency on their mod, so if it downloads the moon first then the api will be out of date.

Let me know if that makes sense

[pallid sky]

Hello!
I'm getting a report that a mod called BetterEXP is giving problems on loading when using Gale.

[umbral herald]

The download order is not deterministic

i.e. it changes every time you download

[umbral herald]

but I think it currently does depth-first

which is not what you want

[umbral herald]

doesn't look like a gale issue

[tender hare]

But if I have lethal level loader on the latest version as a dependency and it downloads a moon which has lethal level loader as a older dependency will it download lethal level loader newer version or the moon first

[umbral herald]

depends

[wild gale]

Moon first and then older LLL?

[umbral herald]

it's probably going to download the older LLL though

[tender hare]

Why

[wild gale]

Yeah It will

Because it is on the mod’s dependency

[umbral herald]

It goes depth first down the dependency tree and adds the first version it finds of a mod to the download queue

but I should probably change that to a broad-first search

[tender hare]

On my modpack I have this order

Extra this one has the latest lethal level loader

Core

Cosmetic

Cosmos this one has a moon which has it’s own dependency of lethal level loader that is outdated

[umbral herald]

The order specified doesn't matter

[tender hare]

Usually r2modman downloads top to bottom

[umbral herald]

it gets jumbled up anyway

[tender hare]

Yeah because if it downloads cosmos first then it won’t get the latest version from extra

[wild gale]

Could you make an option in the settings to NOT download older versions of a dependencies If you have the latest one? Or you already have one?

[umbral herald]

I'm gonna change it to a broad search

[umbral herald]

If you already have a newer version installed gale wont override it

[wild gale]

I thought it overrides

That makes sense then

[umbral herald]

This also comes down to a thunderstore limitation, if we had proper ways of specifiying dependency versions this wouldn't be an issue

[wild gale]

Does thunderstore have a good documentation?

So anyone could make their own launchers lol

[tender hare]

Yeah but if you have the newest version on a dependency string and a moon that has it’s own dependency which lethal level loader is on as a old version. Would it download the newest version which comes first or the moon which would download the older version.

[umbral herald]

absolutely terrible lol

it's second to none

[umbral herald]

depends which mod gale scans first

[wild gale]

so basically LLL documentation lmao

[tender hare]

What if it’s at the top and the old one is at the bottom

Does it scan like r2modman

[umbral herald]

I'm not exactly sure if the order does matter

[tender hare]

Because I don’t know if gale downloads the order based on smallest file to biggest

[tender hare]

It does because let’s say

Kast

• lethal level loader 1.0.0

Lethal level loader 2.0.0

• bepinex

[umbral herald]

I'll change to a broad-first search which should fix this issue. Now it will search the tree layer by layer and add the first version of a dependency it finds

[tender hare]

If it downloads kast first then it won’t be able to download the newer version of lethal level loader

[umbral herald]

I meant the order which you specify the dependencies

[tender hare]

Yeah that’s what would be good

[umbral herald]

but again shouldn't matter with a broad-first approach instead

[tender hare]

R2modman broke my modpack for a week until I figured this out

Then I had to have them in special order

[umbral herald]

I bet most people just press "Update all" instantly anyway xD

[tender hare]

Yeah but I advise them not to because sometimes some updates break the modpack

[tender hare]

Thanks I’m looking forward to using it. 😄

[native shadow]

could you not install your stuff backwards? so dependencies install the older versions you need?

[tender hare]

?

[tender hare]

So just clarifying this would fix the issue?

[umbral herald]

Yeah

[tender hare]

when do you think this update would be out?

[cursive cedar]

It's nice that non-*.cfg files are now visible in the config list. Any plans for JSON support so that LethalConfig files can be preconfigured in Gale?

[short star]

I don’t think the order was related, likely a red herring

[umbral herald]

@pastel grove do you think LLL could bind the config earlier? Ga le now hides orphaned entries (as it probably shouldve done before) and LLL is causing some confusion

https://github.com/Kesomannen/gale/issues/93

[pastel grove]

We talked about this didn't we

[umbral herald]

Yeah but i dont think there was a conclusion

[pastel grove]

The conclusion is yeah I think I can fix this but currently I can't work on LLL for a lil' bit

feel more than free to blame me if anyone asks about it

[umbral herald]

alr xD

[pastel grove]

(basicially LLL is weird in that it has to bind twice)

[urban crater]

is 0.8.0 out is my gale just bugged

[umbral herald]

Halfway, I started the build at my computer but then forgot and headed out

Ill fix it in 20 minutes or so

[uncut kraken]

Well, and there's the launch argument I was inquiring about. Thanks!

[umbral herald]

you're welcome ;)

0.8.0

Added

• Profile > Copy launch arguments
• Indicator for installed mods in the mod list (thanks @DaXcess)

Removed

• Cache directory setting - mods are now cached within the data directory instead

Changed

• Use hard links instead of copying files when installing mods, which reduces disk usage and install times significantly
• New cache format for mods (existing cache will be deleted on first launch)
• Use a broad-first search for dependencies instead of depth-first

[short star]

Be careful, links across drives are awkward and may not work

I’ve had people try to run games from a NAS

[umbral herald]

The profiles and cache must be in the same drive

(since the cache folder is now inside the data folder)

[short star]

Ah fair, that makes sense

Nice

[dreamy yoke]

thanks for the update man, especially the fixes with the .old extension. the Funny thing is when I disabled a mod, the double .old is still there lol, but if I enabled it again the old just gone completely

at least it's work now

thanks

Latom

[uncut kraken]

gale sweep

[pallid sky]

Modpacks changes are no longer saving if you change the current profile :,]

that hurt

[umbral herald]

I don't think they did ever lol

just realized that

[pallid sky]

they were :,]

[fast halo]

This cache update is a godsend

thank you for sparing my disk space

[umbral herald]

I'm pretty sure I didnt change anything that would break it

[hallow reef]

the old cache in Local\com.kesomannen.gale\cache is still there with everything and it wont clear with the cache clear options since 0.8.0, all good ill just clear it the old fashioned way 😄

[umbral herald]

Oh I see what's wrong

Ill get an update out asap

Unfortunately if you've updated to 0.8.0 gale will forget about your cache completely

So future updates can't remove it automatically... oops

[pallid sky]

I noticed

[umbral herald]

You'll have to remove it manually

[tender hare]

How do I update to the newest version

Do I have to redownload gale

[umbral herald]

There should be a button in the top right corner

[umbral herald]

woho new update already

0.8.1

Removed

• Settings toggle to disable mod download cache, as it now doesn't provide any benefit

Fixed

• Old mod cache files from pre-0.8 not being deleted on startup. Note: if you've already updated to 0.8.0, you need to manually delete them.
• Modpack arguments not being saved when app is closed or profile is changed while the page is open
• <details> elements in markdown rendering incorrectly

finally figured out how to fix the readme details/spoiler issue

[pallid sky]

thanks

[tender hare]

thank you it works now

[tender hare]

I found a issue

[hallow reef]

thanks, but 0.8.1 (and i believe 0.8.0) is forcing the default settings in BepInEx.cfg even though I have provided a modified BepInEx.cfg in my modpack, all other .cfg from the modpack are okay though, the modified BepInEx.cfg downloads from thunderstore as a Manual Download and is correct in the .zip but not when installing the modpack with Gale 0.8.1

[tender hare]

when downloading mods the mod count in the top does not update unless you switch profiles

[pallid sky]

That was happening in lesser versions

[tender hare]

also some configs were not downloading from my modpack

[umbral herald]

which ones exactly?

[tender hare]

crosshair was not downloading the the updated version from my modpack and downloaded the default

[hallow reef]

BepInEx.cfg for me, seems like BepInEx is not landing the right spots for some of its files

[tender hare]

same thing with pizza tower config

[umbral herald]

No that's correct

[hallow reef]

im sure the profile folder looked different before

[umbral herald]

gale used to exclude the icon.png, manifest.json and README.md from BepInEx

but it doesn't hurt to have them there and it made the implementation easier so

/shrug

goddamit

[umbral herald]

just the non-.cfg files or the .cfg file too?

[hallow reef]

prior to 0.8.0 i could provide a BepInEx.cfg in my modpack and it would apply, but now its default settings for that file