Yeah that's uhh... Quite a difference...
#⛰️Solar's Mods⛰️
finite crane
tardy rivet
oh wow
finite crane
(for the record, thats 1024p. Probably gonna downscale it further later)
nimble vector
Oh.......uhhhh yeah maybe just a bit.....
-# wow it really is overkill......
I think 720p would be pushing it but visually good. Probably would just go with 480 or 560
I mean what was the old texture at?
Like 360?
finite crane
512 is the division down
hollow glade
512 is quite ok for most cases
finite crane
This time I saved the full res version (nearly 2k 💀) so I can downscale it later whenever
nimble vector
512 is quite ok for most cases
Agreed
finite crane
"Man, i just can never get the UV on this wall properly sized to match up with the wall on the other side"
tardy rivet
"Man, i just can never get the UV on this wall properly sized to match up with t...
was that always happening or?
finite crane
Average eyeball non-users (hypocritical)
tardy rivet
hey >:(
nimble vector
Average eyeball non-users (hypocritical)
nimble vector
Beep
finite crane
Boop
nimble vector
🤖
tardy rivet
i have off the next two days, so i’m hoping progress can be done
plucky sigil
lets gooo
plucky sigil
lets gooo
nimble vector
Let's goo
tardy rivet
what
nimble vector
Also, interested if anything new
tardy rivet
lmao
tardy rivet
also, are you on discord light mode?
nimble vector
Yes, I prefer dark but while on call my webcams have ALWAYS been too dark so I use the light theme like a soft spotlight.
tardy rivet
ohhh
nimble vector
After a while it just got tiring to keep switching so I said "fuck it" and left it on light.
tardy rivet
tardy rivet
what is this lol
nimble vector
Sentai
In other words power rangers before they were cool
When super sentai rolled around they took stock action footage from the 16th season and wrote an American sitcom around it which is a thing they still do with every show.
nimble vector
This was the first season from around 1970
tardy rivet
ripoff power rangers
tardy rivet
ik they came first lol
nimble vector
I still can't believe we went from pokerface man to dragon ninja space warrior
Like what?
Oh and that the plot for both versions is completely different with one using footage from the other with plot that they just made the fuck up.
tardy rivet
I still can't believe we went from pokerface man to dragon ninja space warrior
don’t forget dinosaurs too
midnight forge
tardy rivet
what
finite crane
Testing out zeekers materials
plucky sigil
omfg that looks amazing
chilly pulsar
Testing out zeekers materials
idk how to feel about the red but otherwise its peam
tardy rivet
Testing out zeekers materials
why do you keep cooking
finite crane
Should I stop?
chilly pulsar
i also think the walls should be a lighter beige
like, light light beige
usually malls are whitish
so it might look nice
the trims are fine tho
tardy rivet
yeah try that
plucky sigil
looks like a mansion with the colors it has now hehe
finite crane
There is actually that same shade of red in mansion
chilly pulsar
well, i think its good to differentiate mansion from mall
finite crane
I wish I could tell blender to STOP FUCKING DOING THIS
colors between objects change randomly depending on orientation and I have no fucking clue why
tardy rivet
are the sizes of the objects the same?
usually it likes to stretch textures because of the length and that changes color
finite crane
Appying scale does nothing
tardy rivet
hmm
finite crane
If I flip normals to be inverted the problem is solved 
Like, its blender tweaking out
finite crane
Ignore the weird shading garbage I guess
yeah idk, the initial colors looked more interesting to me
I would change the red I guess, but idk what to
tardy rivet
it looks more like a mall, but i agree that the first colors were more interesting
maybe try a light blue fore the walls?
tardy rivet
a little less saturated and it might be perfect
finite crane
tardy rivet
hmm
plucky sigil
mmmmmmmm
finite crane
Wood uptop
tight lily
Getting Coconut mall vibes
finite crane
Getting Coconut mall vibes
tight lily
tardy rivet
what if instead of these being the same texture, you make them wood or the trim material
i think that could look interesting
but you dont have to though
hardy wedge
I would make the floor material marble instead of wood
tardy rivet
or match the bottom floor
plucky sigil
Marble! Marble!
finite crane
or match the bottom floor
I tried it but it looked a little weird
Im also trying to go for a "70's small town" vibe I guess. So not a metropolis concrete jungle super mall
tardy rivet
alright, that fits better anyways
plucky sigil
and the same texture, but with different tones, like darker or lighter?
glass bane
Testing out zeekers materials
This one may be my favorite
plucky sigil
yeah it looks the best but also looks the least mall
hardy wedge
Im also trying to go for a "70's small town" vibe I guess. So not a metropolis c...
Oh neato
Then I’d swap the blue to turqoise
finite crane
I was thinking of something like this while making it
plucky sigil
i mean yeah, old malls have usually better designs than newer ones
they were more creative hehe
tardy rivet
yeah it really does
plucky sigil
nimble vector
Testing out zeekers materials
I'm going to explode, ik it's a test but GOD that looks so good. I can't even imagine how awesome how the final product Will be.
nimble vector
what if instead of these being the same texture, you make them wood or the trim ...
I like the look of this image but I realized that the pillers kinda look like they just phase through the floor. Maybe a sort of cap or ring could go around the area where they appear from the floor.
finite crane
I like the look of this image but I realized that the pillers kinda look like th...
Yeah I was thinking of stuff to counter that
Maybe a solid ring around with bars extending to the side
nimble vector
It could even be wood 😀
But also concrete is fine if we do not want additional textures.
tardy rivet
is finally the weekend and i’ll be able to work on this a bit more
i’m trying to make the stores but i can’t figure out which one to do first
finite crane
i’m trying to make the stores but i can’t figure out which one to do first
Cafe
tardy rivet
apparatus cafe?
finite crane
Yeah
nimble vector
apparatus cafe?
YES
nimble vector
Wooooooo
tardy rivet
this is going to be a max effort modeling project, so i’ll take a long time on it
until i have it where i want it
nimble vector
Be sure to send lots a pictures 😀
finite crane
this is going to be a max effort modeling project, so i’ll take a long time on i...
Dont worry too much about quality.
Low quality is kind of lethals style lmao
tardy rivet
yes but i still have to try
nimble vector
Well I think high quality works as long as it's cartoonishly simplified. Kinda like jet set radio or Pocoyo.
finite crane
Is this a decent shape for a main entrance room?
finite crane
Got inspired by a local mall I just remembered had a projector set up to display adverts high up on an opposing wall
tardy rivet
damnnn you’re cooking
midnight forge
How do you model so good? These tiles look so good.
tardy rivet
bc he’s a modeler
finite crane
I'm still constantly fumbling controls bro
plucky sigil
Jacuj the model goat
nimble vector
Yes, yes, and yes
Wait........we should fucking TOTALLY make our own ads
I'll get back to you on that
finite crane
Yeah you guys start making ads and graffiti
nimble vector
It's rough but here's a prototype of a recruitment ad
Obviously the real one we put in wil probably look better than this
nimble vector
All in google slide
plucky sigil
haha thats cool
nimble vector
Though with a better program I could probably do better.
plucky sigil
i would tweak the "Where there's scrap..." text tho
nimble vector
i would tweak the "Where there's scrap..." text tho
Limitations of google slides
plucky sigil
looks kinda out of place, maybe center it? or make it bigger, or both
maybe paychecks abound could be red
now you made me wanna do some myself haha, i have 0 design skills tho
biggest design thingy i've made was the aloe video i made a few days ago
more specifically the text placement
finite crane
Gimp should help
nimble vector
now you made me wanna do some myself haha, i have 0 design skills tho
All you got to do is look at a thing that exists and mould your poster idea to match it's style.
plucky sigil
mmmm yeah but also i would prefer to do some more unique things hehe
nimble vector
These were what I based the design off of
plucky sigil
thats where the __ line __ came from hehe
nimble vector
Lethal company had this subtle tongue and cheek relationship with 1940s and 1960s asthetics so it seemed fitting.
finite crane
yeah 100%, but we need actual ADS too
chilly pulsar
i feel like having a company recruitment ad in the mall would kinda feel odd
like, its supposed to be this kinda hush hush thing that only desperate people go for
plucky sigil
100% no
finite crane
A recruitment ad for the company would go really well in the security office room
plucky sigil
i mean
chilly pulsar
A recruitment ad for the company would go really well in the security office roo...
yeah a small one would be fine there
nimble vector
The company in reality would probably pay to plaster its ads basically everywhere
chilly pulsar
but like
chilly pulsar
The company in reality would probably pay to plaster its ads basically everywher...
nah
plucky sigil
the greed of the company
finite crane
Nah, I want advertisements
chilly pulsar
90% sure in lore that is the opposite
chilly pulsar
Nah, I want advertisements
ads are fine
plucky sigil
im killing you both
chilly pulsar
but, make them make sense
plucky sigil
shrimple as that
finite crane
Ads like in the concept pic above, where its promoting a product
finite crane
Preferably ones that play off the vanilla items, since those are gonna be spawning often
plucky sigil
the ui ones
chilly pulsar
like make the ads SPECIFICALLY themed around in universe companies or ones that would exist.
Red Soda Company
Toothpaste Company
Teliots Paper Rolls
finite crane
^^
nimble vector
They have the money and the more sucke- um employees they can get the more money they will possibly make. Sometimes military ads will appear in times square and I have seen posters in malls before
nimble vector
Teliots is necessary if you dont make an ad for teliots im killing you all
Agreed
finite crane
They have the money and the more sucke- um employees they can get the more money...
Nope.
Its a cool idea, but if you make one its going in the security office, and you shouldnt make many
plucky sigil
but how could we do ads based off lethal company in universe companies, while not acknowledging the actual company we work for
kinda confused with what yall are saying
chilly pulsar
but how could we do ads based off lethal company in universe companies, while no...
the company isnt like... putting giant adverts up on times square
finite crane
Maybe a "sponsored by halden" or something
plucky sigil
the company isnt like... putting giant adverts up on times square
the literal trailer for the game is a massive ad
chilly pulsar
you might find a lone company advert in a maintenence room taped to the wall but thats about it
plucky sigil
the poster inside our OWN ship are from the company
finite crane
the literal trailer for the game is a massive ad
Well yeah, thats a trailer
nimble vector
Well yeah the actual ads should mostly be about the stores and potential products
chilly pulsar
the literal trailer for the game is a massive ad
nowhere in the actual game do we see ads like it except for company provided products
plucky sigil
we are getting ads INSIDE THE SHIP WE ARE ALREADY WORKING FOR THEM LIKE WHAT
finite crane
Company ads in the company ship, wow
plucky sigil
the ui ads we get for items too, all of them made by the company
finite crane
This mall doesnt have to be owned by the company though
plucky sigil
im saying, at least some kind of mention
finite crane
Best if it wasnt. Some third party that the company (halden electronics) has sponsored is the most im willing to let slide
plucky sigil
like ignoring the company at all seems kinda weird
chilly pulsar
its pretty apparent they rope in people with some inconsistent and shady advertising in places that only really desperate people would go, and then they trap them
if we plastered the walls with adverts it kinda loses the mysterious feel and isnt really... wellll... discrete anymore
chilly pulsar
like ignoring the company at all seems kinda weird
im not saying ignore the company im saying keep it discrete
plucky sigil
specially since the places we go are old facilities from the company itself (ignoring modded moons)
finite crane
im saying, at least some kind of mention
The player experiences the company already by just playing the game. Not everything has to mention the company
nimble vector
im not saying ignore the company im saying keep it discrete
Yes
chilly pulsar
like dont put a giant billboard, cus that doesnt feel in universe considering how the company really tries to hide its tracks and stay relatively out of public view
if everyone knew about it they would certaintly figure out they are killing people
finite crane
- Poster in maintenance for company recruitment
- "Sponsored by halden electronics" flavor text on some advertisements
Most i'm willing to do as far as the company goes
nimble vector
like dont put a giant billboard, cus that doesnt feel in universe considering ho...
.....they do?
chilly pulsar
- Poster in maintenance for company recruitment
- "Sponsored by halden electroni...
this would be perfect
nimble vector
That just doesn't seem to be the case
plucky sigil
i mean, this is a mod after all, devs can do whatever they want with their idea, if they dont want to have any connection to the game thats completely fair, its just a bit weird to pick a few and ignore others ehfjesgfhjbgfigpkñrsdbf
chilly pulsar
.....they do?
did you read the lore log about calling the company phone and that they arent located anywhere near gordion?
and that no real people ever answer?
they are clearly trying to hide
nimble vector
I agree to mentions of them discreet but no they don't do that. They keep their actions discreet, they do not hide that they exist.
finite crane
The company advertises to their employees to nickel and dime them. They dont advertise outwardly though.
The logs themselves mention they were "hired in a sketchy way"
chilly pulsar
they dont hide their existence but they dont shout it out
chilly pulsar
The company advertises to their employees to nickel and dime them. They dont adv...
hes true
plucky sigil
having the actual company be discreet is different from trying to get people to work for them
nimble vector
Most people in universe know the company is a thing. They don't know exactly what they do but they know they are a company and are very shady.
chilly pulsar
its not like people see a billboard for tje company and go "wowza! i wanna join!" some shady guy calls them or something else and suddenly they go missing
nimble vector
The company advertises to their employees to nickel and dime them. They dont adv...
....that is true.
chilly pulsar
TLDR company recruitment tactics would not be putting giant billboards but rather something like doing shady targeted calls and stuff
nimble vector
Well yeah the actual ads should mostly be about the stores and potential product...
.....I think we're falling off of the track
finite crane
Ive been thinking a lot. i think this job is shady. If youre reading this you probbably got here the same as me. the pay is good, the contract only lasts a season. they ran you through their "assessmennt exam" on the phone with a weird voice. you signed the contract on the shuttle with the rest of your crew. But the whole time you didnt talk to anyone.
I will hand in my letter of resignation personally. It's time to see who we've been working for. No, Sigurd, this is not our real job. Our work has just begun. And there is no way out but further in.
This doesnt sound like a company who openly advertises themselves
chilly pulsar
agreed
plucky sigil
ok then hide posters it is
finite crane
Hiding a small poster with a phone number in employee areas would be exactly the kind of thing they would do. A gruntled employee happens to find it and gives it a shot
They sponsor the mall to get connections in so they can even do so
nimble vector
So (clap) actual store posters
chilly pulsar
I think store ads + in universe product advertisements works
ads for the stores themselves that can be found in the mall + toothpaste, soda, paper rolls, etc
plucky sigil
So (clap) actual store posters
XD yeah
maybe posters for the same stores in the mall hehe
nimble vector
Back on the rails
chilly pulsar
like you could have an ad for mingly magnificent candy and its got the lolipop scrap on it along with the upturned gumballs
(i sent lunar the upturned mall so i hope they turn alot of those stores into actual ones)
tardy rivet
i come back to a long conversation abt ads
chilly pulsar
i would love to work on this at some point if i had the time but yall alr have 2 people
nimble vector
Poster asthetics probably should range from 1900's up to the 1990's for consistency.
finite crane
- Poster in maintenance for company recruitment
- "Sponsored by halden electroni...
@tardy rivet
tardy rivet
(i sent lunar the upturned mall so i hope they turn alot of those stores into ac...
oh i forgot about that
tardy rivet
- Poster in maintenance for company recruitment
- "Sponsored by halden electroni...
oh yeah that could definitely work
chilly pulsar
the mall in upturned contains a clothing store, toy store, drug store, arcade, candy store, gym and furniture store
honestly if you guys provided a template for the actual store sizes and shapes id be down to make some
finite crane
There is one above
plucky sigil
i would love to work on this at some point if i had the time but yall alr have ...
more is better hehe
chilly pulsar
There is one above
where
plucky sigil
lets all work on the mall
finite crane
But here it is again
chilly pulsar
ty
finite crane
Lunar, pin this bitch
nimble vector
@chilly pulsar
We also have many store names and concepts for you to check out.
chilly pulsar
i came up with one of the stores ik
nimble vector
Oh
finite crane
honestly if you guys provided a template for the actual store sizes and shapes i...
Do note the entrance to each store has that door border.
If you want to model a sign for the store, include it somewhere in the asset and i'll position it correctly later
chilly pulsar
heres the thing, if i make a store im doing it in unity
finite crane
oh
tardy rivet
If anyone wants to help on making some store tiles, use the file below.
chilly pulsar
so it will be completely ready to go minus some rescaling
nimble vector
If anyone is about to work on "Billy Bob's bits and bobs" at any point let me know because my partner came up with that one.
finite crane
well uhh, just slap it slightly above the doorway I guess
chilly pulsar
whats also important is
steel apex
chilly pulsar
how big will the store fbx's be scaled when imported into unity
we need to find that out
the entire mall will need to be scaled around that
tardy rivet
If anyone is about to work on "Billy Bob's bits and bobs" at any point let me kn...
that one and Scrap N Stuff will be very similar since they are both convenience stores
nimble vector
Yes although from what I know Billy Bob's leans more into general/hardware store territory than the average convenience store. It literally is a junk store.
chilly pulsar
billy bobs should in lore have been running out of money and closing right before the mall closed so everything is junk thats highly on sale
nimble vector
The other two go nuts. Especially with gusi anything goes just keep the 90s shoe thing.
nimble vector
billy bobs should in lore have been running out of money and closing right befor...
I like that
We share brain cell
chilly pulsar
thats just me corrupting your mind
nimble vector
Oh
AHHHH-
chilly pulsar
finite crane
how big will the store fbx's be scaled when imported into unity
Can you not rescale them in unity?
chilly pulsar
you can
i just want to know what size it is
so the props i put in are scaled correctly
otherwise, when the time comes every single store would need to be redone
finite crane
Well uhh, in blender I have a large grid scaled to 80m
Mostly because I forgot you can adjust the grid size when i started
so each store would be like 20m wide
the small ones at least
maintenance tiles are individually 10x10m
tardy rivet
blender going into unity and vice versa is really strange so I'm not sure
finite crane
chilly pulsar
ITS PEAM
finite crane
chilly pulsar
in order to find out the scale we would have to import into unity (along with the scale human you have) and try and scale everything globally to match human size to player model size
finite crane
I have no reference frame to scale things to match up with ingame scale so
finite crane
The human model is included in the bounding box file iirc
finite crane
if you can rescale everything so the human scale matches, and then send me that scale, I can rescale things on my end before things are imported to unity
chilly pulsar
because when you import to unity, theres a simple setting you can put in to change the imported scale
finite crane
So I wouldnt have to change scale on my end?
chilly pulsar
So I wouldnt have to change scale on my end?
no
we would just need to input the right number
nimble vector
I dont get it
Don't worry.......because I don't either
But I'm sure if you follow beanie's exact instructions it'll work......or at least do something.
chilly pulsar
this number here
1cm in file = 0.01m in unity
BUT
we can scale up stuff using that handy scale factor
its worth noting that alot of my cave fbx's seem to have different scale factors indicating that sometimes they need to be different on a per tile basis, but once you find it they line up right
nimble vector
Here's a tune while y'all work
.....actually you know part of the beginning almost sounds mall like.
finite crane
bass jumpscare
finite crane
its worth noting that alot of my cave fbx's seem to have different scale factors...
That seems really damn weird
tardy rivet
.....actually you know part of the beginning almost sounds mall like.
it really does
finite crane
I did make these a while back 👀
nimble vector
These are beautiful
nimble vector
Here's a tune while y'all work
Plus with a midi mall remix of this and I think we have a full ost almost
finite crane
Nah, id rather an original track
Those ones are just me doing mixing on an existing copyrighted track
It was mostly a concept. Not sure how I feel about constant background music
tardy rivet
It was mostly a concept. Not sure how I feel about constant background music
not constant is what i was thinking
maybe like a minute or two before having a stop for a bit then another one
kind of like oldest view
where it just randomly starts playing songs
nimble vector
Nah, id rather an original track
Well it doesn't have to be the same I just think that first melody is awesome and perfect for upbeat elevator music that actually has soul
finite crane
whoops
chilly pulsar
my failed attempt to curve the stairs
the ever so helpful spatial deform:
(you just have to make sure nothings around it
its definitely possible to curve em
finite crane
the ever so helpful spatial deform:
cant even find that
Anyway, out of ideas for what to put on these walls
Maybe some kind of plants? idk really
chilly pulsar
Maybe some kind of plants? idk really
hanging plants and those lights that are a semicicle that points upwards
illuminating the wall above
plucky sigil
windows
finite crane
no
chilly pulsar
or broken tvs
finite crane
theres stores underneath so windows would not make sense structurally
plucky sigil
:c
finite crane
or broken tvs
old mall, no large TVs back then
plucky sigil
theres stores underneath so windows would not make sense structurally
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finite crane
The doorways are for stores headass
chilly pulsar
old mall, no large TVs back then
i mean the manors are old and have huge fake windows, you could let it slip
finite crane
yeah but why would that make windows be impossible?
Because from outside the shape would be really weird?
plucky sigil
outside?, you can get to the windows?
plucky sigil
i was thinking more of a visual thing, something you see from the place you sent the ss
not a place you can go
not every place has to be accesible hehehehfbsekhfbensigbnidl
finite crane
yeah uhh
no
plucky sigil
What sort of mall would have windows here gamer
what even am i looking at xD
tardy rivet
the entrance from the outside
plucky sigil
looks like the ship
tardy rivet
a little bit
finite crane
looks like the ship
you smoking something dude
raven sorrel
What sort of mall would have windows here gamer
new ship mod
plucky sigil
jacuj ragebaiting
when i said windows i was thinking of something kinda like what beanie said
just that, instead of TV, be real windows
so you can look outside maybe
idk im confused
finite crane
yeah thats just not really pheasible
Remember, the dungeon is technically underground
if its just a window, youll see the void
tardy rivet
have you not seen some modded interiors do it?
i think mansion also has windows as well
plucky sigil
lots of interiors have done it, i wouldnt have requested it if i didnt know it was possible
finite crane
i think mansion also has windows as well
they're fake windows
plucky sigil
tardy rivet
they're fake windows
yeah pretty sure he meant that
plucky sigil
yes
finite crane
well then say fake window 
plucky sigil
from that far you dont even notice it
thats what beanie meant when he said tv (i think)
finite crane
the ones in mansion arent even really windows, theyre more landscape things
plucky sigil
yeah
tho tbf, beanie's new interior does have an outside, like a real one
no idea how he made it
just too smart
tardy rivet
a skybox around the interior pretty sure
chilly pulsar
skybox that dynamically follows the player and uses a global position shader to create the effect of an actual skybox
finite crane
also im not sure how a projector would react to windows in the room
Forgot pillarps
finite crane
Well, he did it first in a call 
raven sorrel
Well, he did it first in a call <:greed:1200418319694577754>
MOTHERFUCKER I DID IT FIRST
I SAID IT WHILE IT WAS JUST ME AND YOU ON THE CALL
finite crane
uhh, dont remember it going that way
Beef did just come up with the idea for a movie theater
Could go well with the extra large store idea you had lunar
raven sorrel
uhh, dont remember it going that way
you were asking about what to put in the walls
and I said "oh maybe hanging plants, like planterss n that kinda stuff"
finite crane
nah that was beef
plucky sigil
movie theater yeah
raven sorrel
nah that was beef
dude
HE WASN'T THERE
IN THE CALL
WHAT DO YOU MEAN
you're actually schizo
im killing you
finite crane
Cant tell if this is overkill or not
finite crane
So if lunars original project was properly scaled, i have a minor issue
plucky sigil
ok this i love it hehe
i also love that lil guy in the middle, like he thinks he the main character or wat
plucky sigil
yeah i dont think they will look like that when they are finished, you put the textures after
finite crane
Realised the stores dont have lights lol
plucky sigil
this is looking too cool to be real
finite crane
btw ive been paying someone to make all these and im out of money, its all joever
finite crane
Better angles of maintenance now that I discovered the focal length settings
raven sorrel
Better angles of maintenance now that I discovered the focal length settings
l4d2 map (this is a compliment it looks amazing)
finite crane
Lights arent even gonna be there when its put into unity lol
Theyre just there to give a better idea of what it might be like ingame
tardy rivet
that actually looks so good!
chilly pulsar
Lights arent even gonna be there when its put into unity lol
they actually do transfer over with some file formats
i dont remember which
tardy rivet
this is the main apparatus pillar for the apparatus cafe
I think I might do the main counter around it
and then theres booths on the sides
Should I add on a kitchen somewhere?
finite crane
add a kitchen yeah. keep in mind how small your character actually is
If you push the pillar around a bit, you could have it be merged into the kitchen wall, so that its behind the front desk but can still be seen from both sides
tardy rivet
what do you mean?
nimble vector
So the cafe will function like an apperatus room or is it just a theme thing?
nimble vector
K
I just had a moment where the thought popped up in my head like "what if there were two variations of an apparatus room?"
Basically virtually the same tile and effect except the housing is a simplified version of this generator with a removable control box (which kinda looks like the white box in the image) that has a tiny c-cell type battery in it on the right.
nimble vector
I had the idea while I was fucking around in the cozy office interior because I noticed it had a unique apparatus which was a big ass CRT monitor.
It would also make sense because there are many malls that have a 400kv diesel generator as a backup or sub power system.
Theoretically we could even use existing scrap and object models to put together a mock up of that generator.
nimble vector
Absolutely, too early for that
tardy rivet
i think we get the maintenance and main mall tiles done, as well as a food court tile and a couple of stores and restaurants, finish all the other stuff such as apparatus, scrap, and monster spawns
then we release the interior to get some public feedback
and then start releasing store tiles in batches
that way we don’t get burnt out to release all those store tiles and have some free time after release
nimble vector
But also this way we can catch issues as they arrise.
Actually before we even release version 1 we should play test the hell out of it even if it seems complete.
tardy rivet
yeah def
finite crane
Bush
nimble vector
What?
hardy wedge
Thats clearly a bush 
nimble vector
Thats clearly a bush <a:NODDERS:1027569863109132409>
finite crane
femces
tardy rivet
try making that reddish color on the fences more brownish, but not as brown as the floor
nimble vector
Like a bright polished wood color. Maybe something you would see in the 70s kinda color.
finite crane
try making that reddish color on the fences more brownish, but not as brown as t...
More like this?
What should I do about the actual entrance though?
nimble vector
More like this?
Oh that's noice
finite crane
Maybe like, 3 doors with 2 being "fakes", and theres just a big interact box to span all 3 of them
or 2 doors, idunno
nimble vector
What should I do about the actual entrance though?
Probably some kind of simple frame. Idk, depends on what style of door lunar had in mind I guess.
finite crane
oh crap, I should do a rolling door on it shouldnt I
Like, when you enter the interior it instantly opens
nimble vector
It be cool if the door was animated
finite crane
yeah I can do that
I need to make a shutter asset for the stores anyway
@chilly pulsar You happen to know how the cruiser's rear door is animated?
I would assume an armature right?
chilly pulsar
I would assume an armature right?
yeah
i used it for deepcore
oops
not deepcore
vehicle hangar
finite crane
Ill just make a custom one then. One that rolls up instead of just sliding up
plucky sigil
More like this?
Looks perfect to me hehehe
tardy rivet
More like this?
perfect
finite crane
One bone to control them all
tardy rivet
looks like it has too many faces, so it looks like cloth
hardy wedge
One bone to control them all
For this dont forget to turn on double sided in unity
Very nice stuff
finite crane
No, no I cant lmao
hardy wedge
Wdym?
finite crane
the aluminium pipe texture is fucking awful, I could never get the UV to line up
hardy wedge
Send it to me I’ll do it for you tomorrow
finite crane
Nah nah, ill make a custom texture
hardy wedge
U need the unwrap the uv differently
finite crane
I want there to be holes in it, so theres no need to fuck with the UV. Ill just create a new texture that is aligned properly
hardy wedge
Just make some seems and then unwrap it and then move them around
hardy wedge
I want there to be holes in it, so theres no need to fuck with the UV. Ill just ...
Fair
But its still a good thing to learn
And not a hard one either (well knowing where to mark seems is a bit difficult sometimes cuz its not always where you’d think it should be but you get used to it with experience)
finite crane
Ive got a pretty good grasp of UV mapping, so if I NEED to do that, I could. I just... Dont
hardy wedge
Ive got a pretty good grasp of UV mapping, so if I NEED to do that, I could. I j...
Okie, absolutely love what youve got so far cant wait to see them in game
nimble vector
yeah I can do that
finite crane
Ill do that for the stores themselves. Since the plan was to have the apparatus close them, i want only players on the outside to be able to lift it up
nimble vector
I want there to be holes in it, so theres no need to fuck with the UV. Ill just ...
Oh you could just pull a hair card and find a picture of one of these and put the transparency over where the holes are.
nimble vector
Ill do that for the stores themselves. Since the plan was to have the apparatus ...
I just thought it be cool to see the main entrance do that. Just this spinning carousel of glass walls whenever someone uses it.
nimble vector
Oh you could just pull a hair card and find a picture of one of these and put th...
Is this usable?
Wait
I think i have a slightly better one
I know it had the annoying logo on it but you could probably draw out some of it and make something decent.
tardy rivet
hmm
that logo one wouldnt work
too much of a hassle to remove the logo and it just looks off
not what I would like
finite crane
Is this usable?
This one is great. Where did you get it from?
nimble vector
I was wandering around on Google to see if I could find anything good and that was the first one that wasn't just SOLID garage door metal.
nimble vector
Well I found the site where it's from.......I don't think it's free from copyright
https://www.tilingtextures.com/textures/perforated-shop-front-roller-shutter/
finite crane
yeah idk, theres no copyright info
nimble vector
Honestly you probably could just make a texture by hand and model it after this which would circumvent any copyright issue at all.
finite crane
yeah
chilly pulsar
yeah idk, theres no copyright info
the amount of copyrighted material ive seen in mods is incredible
finite crane
nimble vector
Yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes ye-
finite crane
made them tomato trees on accident, whoops
finite crane
finite crane
they're stores :)
plucky sigil
i mean, do they spawn when a store doesnt spawn? or are they interactable?
finite crane
You mean the holes for the stores?
finite crane
mostly there for completion sake
Might do something with it gameplay wise, idk
oh, speaking of, gotta put them up on the store tiles too
plucky sigil
would be cool to have them be functional doors you can open with a lever or smth, similar to storehouse by gen or the ones from vehicle hangar hehe
finite crane
raven sorrel
nimble vector
Might do something with it gameplay wise, idk
Could make it connect to an office which could also potentially connect to maintenance hallways
Or to a hallway that just goes into another big tile.
Or both. Idk.
finite crane
its uhh... The main entrance bub
nimble vector
Ohhhhh ah nevermind
tardy rivet
these are peak jacu
tardy rivet
@finite crane Ive got some bad news
finite crane
go on
tardy rivet
this is the scale of a player model sitting down in the original entrance
as you can see its just a bit off scale
now here is the player model sitting in the bounding boxes you sent me
tardy rivet
yeah ik
finite crane
Maybe 75% is the right scale?
tardy rivet
i just figured it would be good to show you
chilly pulsar
this is the scale of a player model sitting down in the original entrance
use the default player ragdoll for accurate scale
its standing up
tardy rivet
use the default player ragdoll for accurate scale
i actually can not find it for my life
finite crane
But yeah, if you can find the downscale ratio for one tile it should be the same for all of them
tardy rivet
about half is pretty close
tardy rivet
@chilly pulsar do you know what the player ragdoll is called?
wait i got it
this is all the props scaled down to .5
nimble vector
You can rescale the tiles though
Wait no don't
Rezise doors if possible, don't rezise anything else. I think it will add to the uncannyness of it all
Like as if it's a place similar to what humans have built but is not for humans.
Idk
finite crane
Doesnt make sense
finite crane
This games vibe is "manmade horrors beyond comprehension", not "places made for giant people"
yeah lmao, thats WAY too big
plucky sigil
doors look kinda big, everything else looks clean hehe
nimble vector
Actually nevermind
Ahem
tardy rivet
i know
tardy rivet
i just wanted to show you
tardy rivet
doors look kinda big, everything else looks clean hehe
the half scale doors are a little too tall yeah
nimble vector
I can't wait to see the generation stage
tardy rivet
yeah itll be super interesting
finite crane
The maintenance tiles are gonna be sketchy
id like them to interconnect between hallways, but idk if its practical
If they line up right i dont see why it wouldnt, but it might be unlikely considering the scale difference
tardy rivet
yeah also door socket placement will determine that
nimble vector
You could have a separate generation algorithm that applies the maintenance hallways or have them load second so they connect properly.
finite crane
My tiles are high precision, it really just depends on how you set the door sockets
Since the tiles are a 4x4 grid of 10 meters, you should be able to just type numbers in to position the door sockets
tardy rivet
i dont think itll be much of an issue if the tiles are precise
tardy rivet
Since the tiles are a 4x4 grid of 10 meters, you should be able to just type num...
yessss
thatll be so much easier
finite crane
Especially if you scale everything down by 0.5, that makes it really simple too
nimble vector
I'm more worried about the generation between the two being wonky trying to treat both like one overall tileset.
tardy rivet
i feel like all I'm going to be doing for this project is the unity side of things lmao
but I am making that cafe
finite crane
Maybe lol
nimble vector
i feel like all I'm going to be doing for this project is the unity side of thin...
Well you're doing more than I am. At this point I might as well be a mascot or water boy.
tardy rivet
lol
nimble vector
Don't sell your efforts short man.
tardy rivet
you've been pretty helpful with feedback and ideas though!
nimble vector
tardy rivet
hopefully I can get my modeling skills to a point where I can make more interiors and in the future moons
that would be really nice
finite crane
Thoughts on a push trashcan over to reveal loot mechanic?
finite crane
I feel like its definitely something zeekers would do lmao
tardy rivet
same with the vending machine
finite crane
We can borrow @chilly pulsar for such funny goofy silly features right?
tardy rivet
and escalators but tools could def be easier
chilly pulsar
because you COULD animate a trash can getting pushed over
tardy rivet
and the loot falls out
chilly pulsar
and the loot falls out
yeah thats possible
you can parent scrap to objects
wouldnt even require JLL or anything
tardy rivet
like the appy
tardy rivet
thats good
just animating a trash can falling over and maybe even some worthless trash coming out would be good
like just some candy wrappers and paper
with the scrap on top
finite crane
I can rig the trashcan model and animate it falling over
Is there any vanilla texture that would work as trash?
tardy rivet
thats going to be something to do in the future
finite crane
Oh crud, I needa make a T junction for the hallways
tardy rivet
i mean, that shouldn’t be too hard, right?
finite crane
I guess after that its just a dead end tile and some tile variations for maintenance
Yeah its not, kitbashing existing assets
finite crane
Well, each store is gonna take a considerable amount of time lol
tardy rivet
yeah i knowww
plucky sigil
yippe
nimble vector
With the power of fried chicken nothing can stop us
finite crane
borp
finite crane
Forgot the stairs lol
tardy rivet
Forgot the stairs lol
looks so sick!
nimble vector
https://tenor.com/view/cat-cats-kfc-kfc-chicken-kfc-bucket-gif-79195224236993726...
With their powers combined beanie and cheesenits become chicken man the.....weirdest... superhero......wat?
plucky sigil
GUS FRING?!
plucky sigil
"warning, BFG 10000 is firing"
finite crane
Blender has crashed unexpectedly
Fuck your shader setup specifically
nimble vector
You know what? Fuck you.
(Un-setups your shaders)
finite crane
Something is just.. Wrong with this program right now, and I have no clue what or why
tardy rivet
woah
finite crane
eh, whatever
raven sorrel
If that little guy is the player's scale I think this is fine
tardy rivet
jacu please use the player model for scale😭
raven sorrel
yeah what he said
tardy rivet
the reference you’re using right now is a bit taller than the actual one, so everything will look way taller
finite crane
jacu please use the player model for scale😭
You can scale them later in unityyyy
On another note, i discovered how to do multiple textures in one mesh
I... Should have known this before lmao
Try throwing this into unity real quick and see if you can figure out how to get the textures to map properly. According to reddit unity should have an option somewhere to follow the mappings I created in blender
raven sorrel
You can scale them later in unityyyy
yeah but stuff like the seats might look super small
finite crane
If everything is scaled in unity so the ingame playermodel is lined up with my reference model then it should be fine
Like idk, my guy seems to fit just fine in blender
Benches on the other hand... Maybe a pinch too small
id say I nailed the railing height too
Doors not as much, but the playermodel has slightly weird proportions anyway
finite crane
Benches on the other hand... Maybe a pinch too small
uhh, idk tbh
its pretty well lined up
tight lily
nimble vector
On another note, i discovered how to do multiple textures in one mesh
I think you just have them all on this one big square and use coordinates to tell unity to which part where
tardy rivet
You can scale them later in unityyyy
the problem is that it won’t be a uniform scale
nimble vector
As long as it looks vaguely correct from like 10-5 ft away it should be fine, no one who plays this game unless they're mod creators themselves are guaranteed to not notice. Most people don't really notice the weird size discrepancies in the vanilla game as is.
midnight forge
the problem is that it won’t be a uniform scale
Chop chop interior boy
chilly pulsar
Chop chop interior boy
Chop chop scripting boy 
(I havent had time to check the api yet but eventually i will)
ty for fixing it
midnight forge
Chop chop interior boy
Chop chop awesome developer
midnight forge
Chop chop awesome developer
Aww thanks 🙏
nimble vector
Holy shit beanie is here?
nimble vector
Mall interior release tomorrow
No mario
midnight forge
nimble vector
tardy rivet
You should help lunar with custom code trust
no thanks
he can’t help with that type of stuff
plucky sigil
:0
midnight forge
he can’t help with that type of stuff
I know, my work is too advanced for you understand.
tardy rivet
too generated***
tardy rivet
it is **ALL ai
midnight forge
nimble vector
https://tenor.com/view/silly-gif-3397568161154480277
......looking at that is making me physically ill
nimble vector
Damn ai
midnight forge
plucky sigil
Jorai
tardy rivet
hehe
nimble vector
We can't, I eated it all
midnight forge
Un eat it
tardy rivet
Poop🤣🤣🤣
finite crane
the problem is that it won’t be a uniform scale
Why's that?
tardy rivet
the scale is not exactly half of its original size height wise, so i would half to distort the height different from the rest but then the tiles will look weird
hollow glade
you can scale all together
finite crane
^^ yeah I don't see the issue
hollow glade
finite crane
Actually, I don't need to. I just gotta scale everything during export and it'll be the right size in unity
tardy rivet
you can scale all together
yes, but the problem is the height, the length and width are fine
tardy rivet
why Lunar? is it your name?
yes
no i’m just joking, but i want to change it but i’ve already made myself know as lunar so now im stuck as that
finite crane
yes, but the problem is the height, the length and width are fine
??
plucky sigil
no i’m just joking, but i want to change it but i’ve already made myself know as...
use your config to change it :3
finite crane
yes, but the problem is the height, the length and width are fine
I really don't see the issue. You scale until it's matched with the reference, and you scale everything by that same amount
nimble vector
My brain is oozing from the madness in modding general
nimble vector
I really don't see the issue. You scale until it's matched with the reference, a...
I think it's because it means he can't just blanket adjust and has to do it but by bit tile by tile.
finite crane
Yeah I should be able to solve that by exporting with uniform scale
plucky sigil
My brain is oozing from the madness in modding general
it follows
moons
hate
buzz words
im activating your sleeper agent
finite crane
@chilly pulsar Would this kind of single mesh multi-texturing be viable in unity? Found a thread of reddit where someone said you can use a meshrenderer for it
chilly pulsar
yeah it works
nimble vector
It'd be difficult and defends on your definition of viable but yeah It could be done. It's just a bit difficult but once you know how to plot stuff it gets easier.
finite crane
I do have a UV on this
nimble vector
unity supports sub meshes via blender
Oh really?
finite crane
It only has one UV map, is that fine?
nimble vector
Hmmm not sure, what say you beanie?
finite crane
So I didnt need to do all this 😭
Oh actually I can just combine them and it remembers the mappings, thank fuck
nimble vector
Oh actually I can just combine them and it remembers the mappings, thank fuck
😀
@chilly pulsar ?
finite crane
whyd you ping him?
tardy rivet
<@856689661149184000> Would this kind of single mesh multi-texturing be viable i...
it works very easily
chilly pulsar
Oh actually I can just combine them and it remembers the mappings, thank fuck
it should
nimble vector
Hmmm not sure, what say you beanie?
That why
finite crane
it should
It does yeh
Ill keep them separate for now for convenience sake, but ill prolly combine them later before exporting
finite crane
real UV hours
tardy rivet
what is that for?
hollow glade
texturing
finite crane
the object
raven sorrel
finite crane
the room of cleansing
finite crane
nextbot ass
tardy rivet
you’re doing so good!
finite crane
down 80k verts from the railings alone lmao
tardy rivet
both might be the way to go
hardy wedge
A bit of both?
what about the other way
chilly pulsar
A bit of both?
both, both is good
finite crane
what about the other way
hardy wedge
oh yea this is the one
tardy rivet
you guys think the brown part should be on the front of the stair and the white on top?
That just doesnt make sense
doesnt even match with the top floor
the reverse of that is better
hardy wedge
doesnt even match with the top floor
well yeah the top floor would be white then as well
imo that would just look better
tardy rivet
i mean jacuj can try it
finite crane
the floor borders are the same material, which might look weird
id have to switch those around
tardy rivet
i mean try it and see how it looks
finite crane
uhh, maybe, idk
tardy rivet
the other way is better
nimble vector
Idk, I actually do like this one
Maybe there's a better way of blending them together?
Oh
Maybe you could try making it into a sort of checker pattern
That way it mixes both stair types while matching with the floor
finite crane
Maybe you could try making it into a sort of checker pattern
too much effort, probably wont even look good
nimble vector
Dangit
finite crane
I think the bigger problem is colors
finite crane
new pillar styling
finite crane
yeah thats what I went with
midnight forge
new pillar styling
Maybe remove the ring around the pillar in the middle
midnight forge
Does create a small discrepancy with these
You could also remove it on their too. Idk, I’m not a design artist 😂
finite crane
I mean, me neither lol
plucky sigil
tardy rivet
yeah you could just remove that middle ring there too and i think it would look fine
midnight forge
I mean, me neither lol
But I do think you should add some deteriorating to the mall. Like dirt on the wall, paint peeling, trash, etc.
tardy rivet
its coming out really good though!
finite crane
But I do think you should add some deteriorating to the mall. Like dirt on the w...
Later
tardy rivet
But I do think you should add some deteriorating to the mall. Like dirt on the w...
all the things you said are just decals and would be really easy to add
finite crane
Is that something you can do in unity?
tardy rivet
yeah i think so
tardy rivet
unitys really good with uvs
like if you dont custom map them in blender theres a setting that makes them all uniform
finite crane
I did send the kiosk above if you want to experiment with it
tardy rivet
its just putting another layer over the material
finite crane
Its got the UVs mapped separately despite being one object. Unity should be able to figure it out
finite crane
I think these poly counts are fine right? @chilly pulsar
Corner tile has excessive because I forgor to optimize the railing actually
13k for the inner circle. Could probably cut 2/3rds
raven sorrel
it's a hidden mickey
nimble vector
Actually do this ring thing but with the trim near the floor
Or something surrounding it on the floor so it doesn't look like it's phasing through
nimble vector
spot the obunga
Evil
tardy rivet
@finite crane well the decals work with your uvs
nimble vector
Burn it
tardy rivet
what
nimble vector
....not what I was thinking but this is equally nice looking.
This looks really good.
nimble vector
hidden sluice
This makes the most sense to me
tardy rivet
yeah it does
tardy rivet
yeah thats what i thought as well
nimble vector
But what does jacuj think?
finite crane
I went with it
finite crane
On second thought, if done right, windows could actually look crazy good https://youtube.com/shorts/7y4tW46Luyw?si=OEVm4KCHRiPblAUK
finite crane
The FUCK was that
nimble vector
IDK
it was supposed to be in English
I honestly don't know what the hell happened
Ok here we go
I honestly don't understand why the first downloader I used grabbed the wrong audio track.
finite crane
I made the store tiles too big, they are gonna end up clipping into each other 😭
tardy rivet
uh oh