Ehhhhhh, off and on. In total it took like 20 or 30 minutes. ADHD and what not.
#⛰️Solar's Mods⛰️
nimble vector
I actually really like that, not that I want it to change (seriously this is good) but this is a bit big isn't it?
tardy rivet
i dont know the scale compared to the entrance so
tardy rivet
it turned out great though
finite crane
Should the one above be like a "fake" floor that you can't access?
finite crane
So what scale should this be?
nimble vector
Should the one above be like a "fake" floor that you can't access?
If it is unaccessible it should house a bunch of heavy machinery like big drills and caterpillar dirt buckets or forklifts. It would also be funny if there was a pseudo power loader from aliens except more like hack Smith being attached to treads.
plucky sigil
you should make an interior hehe
finite crane
Yknow, come to think of it, nobody has made a cathedral
plucky sigil
would fit amazing in orion
nimble vector
Especially an ancient one that seems to be made for creatures that are bigger than crewmates.
Imagine walking around an old alien church for giants
Sick man.
plucky sigil
looks so cool
nimble vector
Roughly? I'm pretty sure that's what he said.
nimble vector
Didnt lunar say a big store ontop and 2 small ones at the bottom?
Hey @tardy rivet , is that correct?
finite crane
Figured out how to do this
chilly pulsar
Jacu casually making his own interior
chilly pulsar
And get to work stinky
nah
cerulean token
Fym nah 
tardy rivet
Hey <@718610030076887173> , is that correct?
2 large and 4 small
nimble vector
@finite crane ☝️
finite crane
yeah I scrolled up and found it
tardy rivet
Jacu casually making his own interior
lol that’s what i was thinking
hes just pumping these things out now
finite crane
At this point I think I just need to start texturing tbh
Actually, I still need to make the spawn room dont i?
@chilly pulsar How did you do the skylight effect here? Just a box with a texture applied?
tardy rivet
At this point I think I just need to start texturing tbh
why is it so good😭😭😭
atp i should just let you make it
tardy rivet
alright well you’re doing really good with modeling and texturing!
how did you curve the railing btw?
finite crane
alright well you’re doing really good with modeling and texturing!
I havent made any textures yet 
tardy rivet
the chip bags and candy bar?
finite crane
how did you curve the railing btw?
And that was a mix of array modifiers, bezier curves, and manual modelling
o ye
finite crane
yeah thats fair
tardy rivet
Actually, I still need to make the spawn room dont i?
spawn room as in the main entrance?
finite crane
Yeah
tardy rivet
i think the main entrance is fine the way it is
finite crane
As in what you made?
tardy rivet
yea
finite crane
uhh, well id have to "recreate" it anyway
tardy rivet
oh yeah ig so
chilly pulsar
<@856689661149184000> How did you do the skylight effect here? Just a box with a...
wdym? The sky part is a custom shader with a physical lcd screen effect applied on a seperate plane over it
finite crane
geometry wise I mean, I wanted to implement the same thing for this :3
tardy rivet
woahhh
tardy rivet
oh no
finite crane
sfine, nobody will see it
The bounding boxes of a tile can be different to its actual scale right?
tardy rivet
yeah i think so
finite crane
Aight cool. Means we can have the store tiles include their sign in the model and just have the bounding box fit the room itself
tardy rivet
hmm
what store should i work on first🤔
organized based on size
I cant push myself to make any new tiles for some reason
glass bane
don't force you, go at the pace you need
tardy rivet
i have the motivation to do it but i just can’t
chilly pulsar
organized based on size
should we do the liminal house modern furniture store or nah?
plucky sigil
benits
chilly pulsar
i could provide the assets i used for it (id also give you the upturned assets at the same time cus i lowkey forgot to do it)
plucky sigil
tardy rivet
should we do the liminal house modern furniture store or nah?
sure
tardy rivet
i could provide the assets i used for it (id also give you the upturned assets a...
yeah i’ll take both of those
chilly pulsar
i just gotta get home and do my dreaded homework
if im not back in 2 hours hit me with a brick
plucky sigil
im teasing
tardy rivet
oh good thing the gif ends before it hits him
plucky sigil
yeah
tardy rivet
that wouldve been bad
plucky sigil
moew
tardy rivet
well im working on the parking garage right now
plucky sigil
yeyyy!!!!!!!
tardy rivet
idk why bc it wont connect directly to anything we've made lol
tardy rivet
wdym fire exit stairs?
plucky sigil
Every mall has a secondary set of stairs in case of emergencies
chilly pulsar
this homework is ass
also one of my teachers is a stupid bitch and put something as due a day before its due and i want to kill him
nah im not doing this today
if he gives me shit for it
its due on a day we dont even have the class
plucky sigil
also one of my teachers is a stupid bitch and put something as due a day before ...
Im gonna tell the teacher!!
Im gonna snitch
plucky sigil
Kill the snitch
nimble vector
Kill the snitch
Huh?
tight lily
An elevator would be peak too, but i guess thats harder
It's gotta be ADA compliant
tardy rivet
An elevator would be peak too, but i guess thats harder
how about… both
nimble vector
Having stairs that can be used instead of the elevator like LC_Office would actually be cool.
tardy rivet
i can def have 3 types of ways to go up and down
nimble vector
Especially if.......the elevator fails 🙂
tardy rivet
wdym?
nimble vector
🙂
tardy rivet
like i should have a chance for the elevator not to work?
nimble vector
No I was thinking like a weight limit.
Like each crew member counts as 100 lb and it has a 600 lb limit.
There are some lightweight elevators that only can hold like four people so it's not too out there though a lot of elevators usually have a 1200 - 2000 limit.
plucky sigil
how about… both
I mean, both would be the best option
If you can do it, it would be peaknits
tardy rivet
alright i could
nimble vector
I mean, both would be the best option
Peaknits indead yo
tardy rivet
peaknits
plucky sigil
Breanknitss
nimble vector
Breanknitss
Breanknitss? Yeah I'm on the breank- of madness.
nimble vector
Rip and tear until it is done
plucky sigil
pleasure the prosecutor
tardy rivet
huh
tardy rivet
no
tardy rivet
if im not back in 2 hours hit me with a brick
it’s been 5 hours and 30 minutes
i think we need to hit you with a brick wall
finite crane
Could do one of these "for disabled people" elevators
Oh and yeah, I gotta do a stairwell too, shit
finite crane
Made a stairwell
On second thought though, an elevator doesnt really make sense gameplay wise
plucky sigil
I mean it depends
For mall floors it doesnt make much sense unless you are going up like 3 or more floors, but for parking lot where it can only be accesed via either stairwells or the elevator it would work much better hehe
finite crane
Yeah, ive only ever seen mall elevators for the purpose of disabled accessibility
plucky sigil
Mmm where i live they are used for faster and easier access to floors
tardy rivet
school starts today so i’m not going to be able to work on it as much😕
finite crane
Threw together a corner tile. Are there any others we need? @tardy rivet
chilly pulsar
jacu cooking
that sunroof… peak
id cut out some standard size holes for shops
settle on a doorway size ratio
that way you can make them tiles with a unique doorway
nimble vector
Made a stairwell
On second thought though, an elevator doesnt really make sense...
But by that logic it wouldn't make sense in an actual mall because most malls are usually just two or three floors including the two floor ones. It doesn't have to make a ton of gameplay sense if it actually fits the type of interior. Besides It could still be made to be faster than the stairs.
Speaking of which here are some alternative styles of elevator that I found. The first one is from crossroads Mall.
midnight forge
Threw together a corner tile. Are there any others we need? <@718610030076887173...
JacuJ making all the tiles now lol
nimble vector
id cut out some standard size holes for shops
Considering it's a corner tile I don't think it's meant for shops. Seems more like a connecting piece from one area to the next.
chilly pulsar
malls pack in stuff pretty tight
i know for certain they could fit some shops in there
tight lily
More tiles means coming up with more ideas for stores
nimble vector
True but there are also just as many places in malls where they don't put shops that are meant to be like transitions, certain hallways, some corners, and sometimes in places like those. So yes and no, it really just depends on the mall and how they decided to compact stores especially from state to state.
plucky sigil
i guess there can be repeating stores
no need to make new stores everytime
there can be generic stores that can be repeated
nimble vector
Tiles or irl?
nimble vector
I mean I think that's kind of what the coffee shops are supposed to be?
They are listed to be of varying sizes and seem to be described of generically.
It would be cool if there was also a secondary set where it's a repeating generic merch shop.
I wouldn't want repeating of the main stores but I would totally be into having multiple generic tiles like these just a pad things out maybe?
That way if someone generates the tile with a higher dungeon size it doesn't just make repeats of these main stores that is unless we do want copies idk.
plucky sigil
there's also these billboard they put in the walls whenever they have an empty space, usually saying there is more to come or advertising the new store here
there could also be empty stores, that woud be great
nimble vector
I think at one point I saw a crossroads had something like that when I was a little kid. I don't know if anything actually came of it.
plucky sigil
my city has TONS of malls so im used to seeing those
malls haven't died in my country yet hehe
tight lily
Mine briefly had a moment where all the shops near the entrance either closed or moved
nimble vector
I now bestow upon you my fountain drink of 1/3 mtn dew and 2/3's cherry Pepsi.
@plucky sigil
nimble vector
Thank you I've been preparing for the coming war.
I hope they will eventually be as mighty as the claws of beanie.
Jokes aside I should clip them more because they snap so easily. I have suffered more than a lifetime of backward bent nails to know better.
tardy rivet
Threw together a corner tile. Are there any others we need? <@718610030076887173...
dudes just making stuff for fun
it looks so good
i would try to respond to you during school hours, but my STATE has banned schools
like it’s a law that we can’t have it during lunch or anything at all
if only i could model as well as jacu could though
tardy rivet
yeah idk
finite crane
That way if someone generates the tile with a higher dungeon size it doesn't jus...
The main stores would be random, so not a ton of worry there
nimble vector
Well ik that. I'm talking about allowing stores to duplicate or have One of each and then fill with generic tiles.
tardy rivet
oh yeah for sure
tardy rivet
i barely have time to work on this since school😭
i have the rest of today and tomorrow but after that another whole week of homework
nimble vector
I fucking hate school. I know college Will be better in some ways but man o FUCK I'm still apprehensive about it.
glass bane
big advantage with college is that you mostly have subjects that you are interested in, since you're focusing on a career or a topic, so if you hate literature but love math, you will have no literature, which is good.
And the more you advance, the more your subjects goes towards what you want, here math for example
nimble vector
Plus a lot of the social drama of highschool is pretty much non existent because people are paying to actually learn something and in general are more or less on business....well at least when class is in session anyway.
If I ever have to be in a highschool ever again I'm going to staple my eye lids into the fucking ceiling.
plucky sigil
outlast trials newest map
its based on 1960-1970 so not really a modern mall
but it works
i tried taking the most SFW screenshots i could xD
chilly pulsar
i tried taking the most SFW screenshots i could xD
not many of those you can find
plucky sigil
Yeah, had to discard a few for that
chilly pulsar
hey, we need to spread the trials
so what if theres dismembered corpses
they can handle it
this is a joke
we will not be sending dismembered corpses
plucky sigil
plucky sigil
i kinda can't make any jokes about trials without being a weirdo 😔
nimble vector
its based on 1960-1970 so not really a modern mall
That actually makes it perfect for lethal's asthetic
plucky sigil
yeah it works for lethal aesthetic, but idk if it fits lunar's idea
nimble vector
Hmmm......that's actually an important point. If this asthetic conflicts with the vision.......I don't see that playing well.
tardy rivet
i like it
nimble vector
doog thgirla
plucky sigil
alright rotifer
nimble vector
tardy rivet
no rotifer
nimble vector
Anything new?
plucky sigil
Anything old?
finite crane
There would be new if this goober 3 messages above would tell me how they want to implement the maintenance halls
tardy rivet
I’m thinking I could make a mall hallway tile that can have a bathroom/a maintenance hall doorway that says employees only
it doesn’t have to be an entirely new tile, just a copy of another with a doorway hole cut out
finite crane
I can just create another duplicate of the stairwell tile
tardy rivet
sure
nimble vector
Could be cool if it lead to a hallway that goes to a single facility concrete tile area.
Though that part is optional, it's perfectly fine if it doesn't open.
tardy rivet
yo wait i had a fire idea
what if the maintenance halls stairway is a reference to the oldest view
just a really long straight stairway
tardy rivet
what
finite crane
what if the maintenance halls stairway is a reference to the oldest view
They usually are very "oldest view" like. y'know... Since oldest view perfectly recreated the mall?
plucky sigil
maintenance halls and the oldest view long stair are different things
tardy rivet
the stairway he goes down
plucky sigil
tho it would be really cool seeing the stairs
i would love seeing it in game
but it would be better if it was like a rare tile imo
similar to how the nightmare rooms are in school
also, where would it lead you to?
tardy rivet
the maintenance halls
plucky sigil
a fake outside area would be peak
plucky sigil
the maintenance halls
mmmmmmmmmmmmm
finite crane
Idk, maybe it'd be a super rare generation that just... Goes on forever, and you get trapped in an infinite loop like rubber rooms if you go too far
tardy rivet
now that i think about it that’s not really realistic
plucky sigil
maintenance halls are tied to the stores, it would be weird to have to go a really long stair just to get to them
plucky sigil
now that i think about it that’s not really realistic
doesnt need to be
tardy rivet
Idk, maybe it'd be a super rare generation that just... Goes on forever, and you...
yes that would be good
plucky sigil
Idk, maybe it'd be a super rare generation that just... Goes on forever, and you...
yesss
tardy rivet
maintenance halls are tied to the stores, it would be weird to have to go a real...
yeah ig so
plucky sigil
finite crane
Not sure how youd do the transition though, especially when multiple players are there.
Rubber rooms has the fog to hide the transition, but we might not have that luxury.
chilly pulsar
but it would be better if it was like a rare tile imo
hear me out
moon where that leads to main
plucky sigil
Not sure how youd do the transition though, especially when multiple players are...
the stairs turn left at some point
plucky sigil
dont give me ideas beanits i will eats you
tardy rivet
moon makers we need you
idek what it would be called
bc you don’t want to spoil the surprise of the stair entrance
finite crane
The hell would the moon even be about... Just some fuckass forest?
chilly pulsar
The hell would the moon even be about... Just some fuckass forest?
i mean
plucky sigil
well... yeah?
chilly pulsar
thats just march
plucky sigil
what did you expect it to be?
chilly pulsar
plucky sigil
isnt like vow march and many modded moons that?
chilly pulsar
really nice forest
finite crane
Something other than just a generic forest lol. Idk, seems like a lot of work for way too little.
chilly pulsar
make it a northamerican forest
instead of the stupid red pine trees
leafy treees
maples
etc
cerulean token
https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-kiss-lunaistabby-kitty-cute-cat-gif-7023626957133...
what an easy steal jeez
-# I'm not going to sleep yet, don't wish me gn just yet
plucky sigil
gn just yet kiszony!!
plucky sigil
have a goodnight sleep!!!
tardy rivet
descent is a good name
i’m thinking i make what i see in the oldest view outside part
like large hill
finite crane
Oh neat, the happy ending
Anyway, I'm thinking the maintenance halls would be pre-made shapes that follow the same grid size, so they can potentially have multiple ways in
tardy rivet
yeah sure
tardy rivet
did you see the other video i told you?
no i didn’t
plucky sigil
no i didn’t
Well i just send it
So get to it.
https://tenor.com/view/starwhocouldfly-rigby-cat-rigby-silly-cat-stupid-cat-gif-15385366713072989704
tardy rivet
ok fine
tardy rivet
ty
it was good
it def has more outside scenes to base the moon off of when we get to it
nimble vector
what if the maintenance halls stairway is a reference to the oldest view
YES
FUCK YES
nimble vector
They usually are very "oldest view" like. y'know... Since oldest view perfectly ...
WOOOOOOOO
tardy rivet
lmao someone’s a little excited
finite crane
thats what she said
cerulean token
lmao someone’s a little excited
Your pfp's little friend is a lil excited as well
finite crane
Im fucking dumb. The moon would just... be the mall
glass bane
the parking in front of the mall
tardy rivet
no
plucky sigil
you can reference multiple mall parts
like the squid that appears once
or the structure of it
the infinite stair case i like that one
tardy rivet
we’re going to have to do another poll:
-
Fire exit with long stair case of a mall moon
-
rare tile with infinite stair case
-
Main entrance of a hilly and foresty moon (Name would be descent)
or none?
nimble vector
we’re going to have to do another poll:
1) Fire exit with long stair case of a ...
I vote all three: make the staircase, have a variant that instead of having a top it's replaced with a seamless portal to make it infinite, though honestly those can come later and I really just want the foresty moon first (name ideas: crossroad, valley's-view, remembrance, grey field), I do like the forest bit but I think the forest should eventually open into a broken road and a disheveled parking lot with the upper remains of the mall kind of sunken in almost like an underground entrance. Like part of the front door is intact but the very very above ground area is kind of broken and almost slanting and the ground around the door and Mall in general is sinking in slightly as if it's sat for so many years that the foundation is getting pushed down like its own cultural layer.
I don't know why I'm getting this idea but I think it would help sell just how old the mall is.
......at least from the outside.
finite crane
I'm not making no moon until the interior is 100% finished
tardy rivet
i could do it dw
plucky sigil
He could do it dw
tardy rivet
i’ve made a moon before but never released or playable
just the moon was made
it’s in pinned
plucky sigil
Release it
nimble vector
I'm not making no moon until the interior is 100% finished
Well if course, to make a moon now would be just entirely unreasonable especially since some of the art direction hasn't completely taken off yet? I mean half of it is just a bunch of floating ideas right now, it seems in general like a lot of stuff is still being figured out so that's perfectly fine.
nimble vector
it’s bad
Maybe when this project is done you can go back and revisit it? Couldn't hurt.
tardy rivet
yeah i will
maybe catacombs will get revisited too👀
this is much simpler though than my concept for that
thing had a whole moon, monster, and items planned
midnight forge
@tardy rivet join back vc
tardy rivet
definitely quite ambitious for a modder like me
tardy rivet
<@718610030076887173> join back vc
give me a bit
midnight forge
Chop chop interior boy
tardy rivet
you’ll get them soon
midnight forge
ask @finite crane for the upgraded tiles btw
tardy rivet
he’s not done texturing i don’t think
finite crane
I havent started because I havent finished the models yet
Give direction direction man
tardy rivet
what do you have so far anyway?
finite crane
I stopped at the curved room
plucky sigil
25 million tiles
tardy rivet
woah
finite crane
Two straight variants, one with stairwell and another with the escalator
And the 4 way
tardy rivet
send pics
finite crane
scroll up
finite crane
So are we doing another stairwell for the maintenance halls?
Like an alternative one, where it just goes down instead of wrapping upstairs
tardy rivet
no, i think we’ll do a simple entrance with a door
tardy rivet
feet pics? what??
yes
finite crane
no, i think we’ll do a simple entrance with a door
yeah... Like a door in the hallway that goes down a floor
Actually, a door in the corner/4 way rooms might be pretty interesting
tardy rivet
what
finite crane
A doorway on the bottom floor of this tile, has a chance of spawning
Leads to an "employees only" door and stairwell, that then leads to the maintenance halls on a below floor
This is the kind of stuff I imagine for maintenance halls
tardy rivet
yes yes
finite crane
Just a maze of hallways with the occasional supply room, apparatus, some security office maybe
tardy rivet
idk if that could work
finite crane
yeah, it can spawn in many rooms
plucky sigil
In two, but in one of them it can spawn in different positions
finite crane
well, just the fact that it can spawn in two rooms means itll work for us
plucky sigil
Yes!!!!
finite crane
Though uhh, apparatus cafe seems a little weird...
plucky sigil
Idk ask Lunar
finite crane
Maybe as a theming it could work, but as the actual apparatus room? idk
plucky sigil
Also, playzone has 2 appys
So having multple could also work maybe
Yho i would prefer for it to be variations
tardy rivet
yeah i just realized that theres no good way to place the appy in a cafe
tight lily
Though uhh, apparatus cafe seems a little weird...
Radiation with your coffee is good for you
chilly pulsar
yeah i just realized that theres no good way to place the appy in a cafe
appy in a pc store as a power unit
tardy rivet
hmmm
plucky sigil
Pc store!!!!
Use scrap from mods as decorstion too
Generic scrap, Boom Scrap, fiuki scrap, usual scrap
So many scraps
I dont know the name of all of them
tardy rivet
maybe
finite crane
Maybe we shouldn't just reuse other mod's content for everything...
plucky sigil
Ok 🙁
tardy rivet
yeah i agree
plucky sigil
Ok 🙁
chilly pulsar
soup store that sells clothes
nimble vector
soup store that sells clothes
And its name is just "soup"
tardy rivet
yes
finite crane
Working on the "entrance" to maintenance
finite crane
Also I somehow completely neglected the idea of graffiti
If someone would wanna make some random graffiti for us 
plucky sigil
Working on the "entrance" to maintenance
i thought maintenance was behind the stores
tho i've never been behind one hehe
either way it looks really cool
finite crane
Why would it be behind the stores?
plucky sigil
feels like the entrance to the parking lot
plucky sigil
Why would it be behind the stores?
mm idk, a few things i've seen have them behind stores
finite crane
Oh also uhh... Can someone grab the common materials zeekers uses on moons and interiors, like concrete and wood, and pass the textures, normals, and stuff to me
plucky sigil
@chilly pulsar :3
tardy rivet
there’s multiple variants of each
i could try to help find them if you can remember where you want me to take them from
finite crane
i could try to help find them if you can remember where you want me to take them...
Just pick ones that fit
chilly pulsar
Oh also uhh... Can someone grab the common materials zeekers uses on moons and i...
theres alot of them
too many to send
one material sometimes has like 3 textures
finite crane
Well... Just send one variation of each
nimble vector
If someone would wanna make some random graffiti for us <:flushedShy:79442257219...
I might know people
finite crane
tardy rivet
moon?
midnight forge
finite crane
stairms
tardy rivet
woah
finite crane
optimized enough
tardy rivet
what is the poly count?
chilly pulsar
four billion
finite crane
what is the poly count?
total count is 223k, though thats split among all these
Well, there are some spots that could use major optimisation lmao
chilly pulsar
total count is 223k, though thats split among all these
that still might be too high
finite crane
the consequences of my loop cuts
chilly pulsar
reminder: lc is usually VERY low poly compared to normal models
lemme give an example with my cave tiles
for deepcore
plucky sigil
yes
hollow glade
those pillars look a bit too round
finite crane
those pillars look a bit too round
average smooth normal user
chilly pulsar
10 tiles is only 16k
finite crane
Homeboy those are empty caves, i dont wanna hear it
finite crane
how many divs does the curved roof have on those hallways?
chilly pulsar
id look around
dont remember
but SOMETHING is off with those tiles of urs
look for high density areas
of polygons
when it doubt, decimate and smooth it out
finite crane
The fences lmao
But yeah, these fences can be optimized a lot, but thats for later
Without the fences its not even half bad
chilly pulsar
yeah the fences are the issue
lowkey you could make the bars a 2d plane and put an image on it
finite crane
Hell nah
chilly pulsar
that wouldnt be too crazy
finite crane
so from 22k down to 4k for the straight hallway
give or take a few k for the unique variants
finite crane
but I am not optimizing the rest until way later
The walkways are 800 polys, could probably get them down to 500
Could remove a few dozen from each pillar too
tardy rivet
good job!
chilly pulsar
lunar... hes putting in all this work... you better finish the interior
chilly pulsar
railing is just gone now?
no clue where that could have gone... ugnmh... gulps down suspicously railing shaped thing
tardy rivet
i will i will
finite crane
oh it opened an autosave
bruh
Guess ill redo the optimization later
Cant optimize these all that much though..
Without redoing a ton of stuff
anyway
finite crane
Well actually, i can do SOME optimization
At best ill half the polys though
All the loop cuts need to be kept unfortunately
tardy rivet
why?
finite crane
otherwise it wont be curved anymore
I optimized the straight fence by just removing all the loop cuts, so if I want to bend it again I need to add more loop cuts
tardy rivet
ohhh
nimble vector
total count is 223k, though thats split among all these
Could be worse, I've heard some of the higher quality moons get this high if not slightly higher in count. But honestly if your computer can't handle a 223k count then you probably shouldn't be getting interiors that are this big in size anyway. I still can barely run play zone as it is (no shade against Matt it's really amazing).
nimble vector
Cant optimize these all that much though..
You could make this a 2d texture with a pho-3d like depth and make part of it transparent like a hair card or make it so that only what's seen in front of the player is actually rendered.
But that level of optimization is probably not worth it.
finite crane
pho 3d? You mean a displacement map? I dont think thats how they work
nimble vector
Fake 3D
finite crane
So a displacement map then. Yeah no, even if it supports transparency (Which I dont think it does) it would not save much on performance in this case
nimble vector
Like I said probably not worth it
finite crane
And like I said, there are a few things that I can optimized in that circle
nimble vector
Can't believe how far this is gotten
I know it's just the basic modeling but just thinking about the possibilities and seeing it kind of coalesce together slowly.
It's like I'm watching a planet be born.
finite crane
Texturing scares me
OH, now that I remember
I thought of some kind of "store shutter" mechanic
Basically, when someone pulls the apparatus, there's a chance some of the store shutters will close.
Can't be opened from inside, so you need to communicate with your team before pulling the apparatus
nimble vector
It also would be interesting if there's a chance for them to close (for obvious reasons considerably lower than if you just straight pulled the apparatus) if it gets closer to midnight. It would be especially engaging if there are various doors that lead to employee and maintenance areas that are longer paths than the normal stores but are never blocked by the shutters.
Briefly I did think about these areas preventing monsters from getting in but that would probably be broken.
hollow glade
Basically, when someone pulls the apparatus, there's a chance some of the store ...
Not sure how fun it is if that happens and you're inside a shop...
finite crane
Wellll, that'll be on the player for not making sure nobody is in a store
Facility meltdown isnt much different, if you think about it
hollow glade
Yes and no, facility meltdown gives you the chance to escape
This doesn't
This is a softlock basically, imo having an alternative (like using a key to open it if they close) would be healthier but to each their own
finite crane
Key sounds reasonable yeah, but I still want it to be a gimmick
Maybe a short delay before it closes, so players who know have a small window to make it out
hollow glade
Yeah, the gimmick sounds fun but it needs to be at the very least a bit fair
tardy rivet
what if an announcement plays through the mall like “store is now closing, please leave all stores”
finite crane
Meh, I think just the lights flickering, the warning appearing, and a moment later the shutter slamming shut is fine
hardy wedge
I am very amazed of these models good job ^^
tardy rivet
Meh, I think just the lights flickering, the warning appearing, and a moment lat...
yeah i want to see clips of people screaming like “LET ME OUT PLEASE”
i think that would be funny
finite crane
Set up a simple maintenance section. I'm gonna use these small pieces to many variations that are the same scale as the main mall tiles, which in theory should allow them to line up and interconnect
nimble vector
OO!
finite crane
I might just leave it mostly like this, because I plan to reuse zeekers assets to dress it up.
Like this air conditioner spot for the pipes
Breaker box spot
Could make heavy use of the facility pipes here too, they'd fit like a charm
And the vanilla lights here too
nimble vector
It's amazing
I also have ideas for a few rooms that can appear along the corridor. I don't want to overwhelm you though, if interested I have photos for reference.
finite crane
Yeah go ahead
chilly pulsar
new thread name: Lunar (And Jacu's) Interior
chilly pulsar
Im such a huge fan of my own moon
moon...
finite crane
uoow
tardy rivet
new thread name: Lunar (And Jacu's) Interior
brooo😭😭😭
tardy rivet
nooo
buttt i need my modeling experience to increase bc i want to make more things after this
chilly pulsar
buttt i need my modeling experience to increase bc i want to make more things af...
then...
** LOCKKK INNNN**
finite crane
buttt i need my modeling experience to increase bc i want to make more things af...
Homie I gave you the store bounding boxes and said "go get em tiger"
Wheres your 3 finished stores
Matter of fact, here they are again, because I think I changed the size a pinch at one point
And again because I forgot the player size reference object...
finite crane
Something something modular
nimble vector
Sorry had to do a few things.
So I had ideas I thought of a little while back when maintenance hallways were mentioned that could be looked at (once the basic tiles are done of course) were variants of the tiles that generate near their related room like softer more furnished and polished hallway tiles when approaching office or management office (all 4 of which maybe could use things from the office "bracken room" and maybe design inspiration from lc_office) and of course rougher more exposed and utilitarian hallways when approaching a custodian or storage room (with inspiration from actual storage rooms from the factory interior), I've thought of this ever since I brought it up and now that it's happening I've thought about it more.
Apologies for the concept vomit, it's the result of 2 weeks of holding on to it.
nimble vector
Something something modular
This is really starting to look good.
finite crane
Having the tile style change is beyond what DunGen can do unfortunately
And beyond what i'm willing to do...
nimble vector
I still think management rooms could have a place but the thing I actually care about is the custodian and storage rooms.
Those two rooms alone no hallways included would be great for this me thinks.
Everything else is just shotgun concept.
finite crane
Yeah, ill have some "large" maintenance areas, where its mostly a large room as opposed to a gazillion hallways
nimble vector
Yes
I still think some of the images above might be good references, if any of them look good I can find more like it.
finite crane
First I need to figure out what zeekers assets I can reuse
nimble vector
Well thankfully most of the factory tile assets I think will fit really well for this. Some of it might be a bit brutalist but for sure a lot of the decoration like the pipework should be good. I'm not as sure about the mineshaft assets but there's probably some good things there.
finite crane
the orange boxes are about the only mineshaft thing I can see fitting
nimble vector
Maybe the plastic containers? Like I said I'm way less sure about the mineshaft assets.
nimble vector
that spells moon but upside down
Wait wouldn't it be more like:
Moon
uooW
?
finite crane
Either I fucked up, or blender is drunk...
nimble vector
Maybe you both fucked up and got drunk
Idk what I'm looking at
Does look a tad crooked though
E
plucky sigil
nimble vector
https://tenor.com/view/31-minutos-maguito-no-se-nose-explosion-gif-5485902718347...
Average muppet safety standards and life span
finite crane
Testing some texturing
plucky sigil
Texturing some testing
finite crane
Wild
plucky sigil
why does it look so ugly
mostly the floor but everything besides the walls looks too dirty and old
like rusty
finite crane
Because theyre shitty crops taken straight from the game
plucky sigil
https://tenor.com/view/starwhocouldfly-rigby-cat-rigby-silly-cat-stupid-cat-gif-15385366713072989704
finite crane
Dont you stare at me, beanie never sent me anything >:(
plucky sigil
we should cook beanie and eat it in the campfire
how much foods would a beanie give
nimble vector
https://tenor.com/view/31-minutos-maguito-no-se-nose-explosion-gif-5485902718347...
#off-topic-memes message
plucky sigil
finite crane
nimble vector
we should cook beanie and eat it in the campfire
Why would we eat while sitting in a fire? That just sounds dangerous.
nimble vector
Testing some texturing
OHHHHHHH
plucky sigil
norman
tardy rivet
@finite crane figure out where you found those materials and i’ll send you the actual ones
plucky sigil
<a:peepoSleep:1128172194619469834>
gn Kiszony!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
sleep tight
may your dream be awesome
cerulean token
tardy rivet
let the bed bugs bite
chilly pulsar
Already asked beanie
if you patched the project yourself youd probably get it faster because i am no longer home
finite crane
I totally know how to do that
chilly pulsar
the good thing is the patcher is simply just waiting, little to no effort needed
finite crane
i totally know where that is
plucky sigil
youtube
chilly pulsar
i totally know where that is
look it up
should be very easy to find on yt
lethal company modded moon tutorial
only follow it up to the point of finishing the project patching and u can ignore the rest
cus u aint making a moon
plucky sigil
plucky sigil
bro doesnt want to till mall is done
finite crane
wat
chilly pulsar
bro doesnt want to till mall is done
makes sense
chilly pulsar
https://tenor.com/view/nice-cat-gif-25643491
ill take that as a no
plucky sigil
i mean base is done, i have no idea what to do after that, and i've been kinda busy both with college and trials hehe
plucky sigil
mall interior
Jacuj gave me everything so now the mod is mine
https://tenor.com/view/starwhocouldfly-rigby-cat-rigby-silly-cat-stupid-cat-gif-15385366713072989704
finite crane
Jacuj gave me everything so now the mod is mine
midnight forge
Jacuj gave me everything so now the mod is mine
nimble vector
Jacuj gave me everything so now the mod is mine
The hell it is
Don't make me summon the zorgons
plucky sigil
Mall canceled
tardy rivet
nooo
tight lily
It's so over
tardy rivet
no it isnt
@finite crane getting the materials for you right now
i actually cant find what this one is called
nvm i got it
plucky sigil
Name?
tardy rivet
im just going to send them all when im done
im generating dungeons in unity to find them
did you know this one and this one are the same texture?
its just in different lighting so its different
finite crane
Wah
tardy rivet
yah
finite crane
Muh
plucky sigil
Mu
tardy rivet
M
nimble vector
.
tardy rivet
i have all the textures now, idk how i could export them into a material you can use for blender though
nimble vector
Lemme check
plucky sigil
Lemme check too
Wait, i have no idea
https://tenor.com/view/starwhocouldfly-rigby-cat-rigby-silly-cat-stupid-cat-gif-15385366713072989704
chilly pulsar
i have all the textures now, idk how i could export them into a material you can...
just send them thru dms
he will have to arrange them in a node graph
image texture -> material output
tardy rivet
idk how to export them from unity i mean
chilly pulsar
if its a normal or displacement, it also needs a normal converter thingy or a displacement node
chilly pulsar
idk how to export them from unity i mean
double click
or
right click
show in explorer
or
drag and drop
all 3 should werk
plucky sigil
Lunar needs its config!!
nimble vector
Idk if this works (idk even think it's the right thing) I tried
chilly pulsar
although... i dont think this will be useful at all, since lunar will need to make their own materials and apply it in unity anyways.
exporting blender materials to unity doesnt really work well
if at all
tardy rivet
i think he just wants to do uv mapping
nimble vector
I wish I knew things
chilly pulsar
i think he just wants to do uv mapping
then he should use a dev test texture for that
these should work well
professional and free
nimble vector
nimble vector
I wish I knew things
.
nimble vector
https://kenney.nl/assets/prototype-textures
Yes
chilly pulsar
nimble vector
My brain desires to understand. But I still don't.
But enough 'bout that. How da textures going?
finite crane
https://kenney.nl/assets/prototype-textures
Blender has it's own ones. I was mostly intending to experiment with what textures to use and where
finite crane
although... i dont think this will be useful at all, since lunar will need to ma...
What about assets made by zeekers?
Models i mean, like this AC object
chilly pulsar
Its just a box, would be pretty simple to make a blockout for
hollow glade
That's just a cube with textures and normals
finite crane
Its just a box, would be pretty simple to make a blockout for
It has a few mesh details. But what I meant was, are zeekers' assets something to be placed in unity?
chilly pulsar
That's just a cube with textures and normals
it has like a tiny bit of geometry popping out
but its pretty much just a box
chilly pulsar
It has a few mesh details. But what I meant was, are zeekers' assets something t...
its easier to place them post-blender
that way resizing, position and all that good stuff can be handled
(+ propsets)
finite crane
(+ propsets)
elaborate?
chilly pulsar
randomized sets of props that are chosen at runtime
lunar will need to use it for the stores
finite crane
So this alternative pipeset would be a propset?
Also another question; DunGen generates in a specific order right? Like a tree brancing out from the root (main entrance)
If yes, how would it handle two branches collapsing into each other? The maintenance halls are asymmetrical, which means they can only really go in one direction. Is it possible to make a tile that can be used specifically to connect two branches going in the opposite direction?
finite crane
and uhh... How does lethal handle displacement textures?
Blender seems to require subdivisioning the mesh in question for them to work, but I doubt thats what people are doing in lethal for the fake depth effect to work
chilly pulsar
and uhh... How does lethal handle displacement textures?
Blender seems to requir...
its a built in shader like effect
so dont mess with it in blender
in unity, you dont need to subdivide
finite crane
Thanks, blender...
finite crane
Well anyway, got myself a handful of interesting textures earlier today while shopping. Metal and concrete and all that
chilly pulsar
Well anyway, got myself a handful of interesting textures earlier today while sh...
wdym
finite crane
Like I took close up panoramic pictures
I can probably create some custom textures off of them
nimble vector
What about assets made by zeekers?
Models i mean, like this AC object
Perfect, simple to put in and/or recreate and very fitting for a maintenance hallway.
nimble vector
If yes, how would it handle two branches collapsing into each other? The mainten...
I think so, lc_office has a little of that going on. I think if two branches get close they either end in a wall, generate away from one another, or go past each other connecting.
finite crane
I'm more thinking of making a unique tile where the the directions switch
nimble vector
I don't actually know if that's the case under the hood though, I'm going based off of what I've seen from maps on the ship.
nimble vector
Beep
finite crane
good thing @chilly pulsar with all his accumulated experience volunteered answered these very important questions
tardy rivet
I think so, lc_office has a little of that going on. I think if two branches get...
that’s what bounding boxes are for
tardy rivet
If yes, how would it handle two branches collapsing into each other? The mainten...
they wont collapse into each other
finite crane
They just diverge?
tardy rivet
as long as bounding boxes are right, the won’t go into each other
finite crane
Oh nonono, I dont mean them clipping with each other
tardy rivet
you mean two halls connecting?
finite crane
Two halls being generated from opposite directions, yeah
tardy rivet
what do you mean then
finite crane
what do you mean then
If the tiles generate like this, what would they do?
Would they generate two dead ends, would one become a dead end and the other turns, or would they just... Connect
tardy rivet
are the tiles just l shapes, or is each box a single tile
finite crane
are the tiles just l shapes, or is each box a single tile
what
Just... Okay
Can they connect
Is it possible for tiles generating in opposing directions to connect
and if the can connect, can we specify a tile they should use to connect
Because if we cant its gonna cause issues since the maintenance tiles are asymmetrical
hollow glade
Would they generate two dead ends, would one become a dead end and the other tur...
the 3 options can happen iirc, depends on how the tiles are set
finite crane
Can you specify directions? So like a tile with several exits/entrances can have each way in have a specific direction
hollow glade
i'm not quite sure, i'm starting to learn myself
tardy rivet
Is it possible for tiles generating in opposing directions to connect
yes i believe so
finite crane
Can you specify a tile they should use to do that?
tardy rivet
and if the can connect, can we specify a tile they should use to connect
yes we can have a special tile that uses its own sockets to connect 2
finite crane
Can you specify what chance different tiles have for generating?
tardy rivet
if we put the sockets on one end on one of the hall tiles, than have the special tile only have those sockets, then the tile will generate only on the end of one of the halls, and probably connect them.
finite crane
So like, increasing the chance of straight maintenance tiles, thus leading to a more accurate to reality feel for them
tardy rivet
Can you specify what chance different tiles have for generating?
yes there are weights you can customize
in testing i kept them all at 1, which meant everything was at an equal chance. you can go lower to give it a smaller chance as well
finite crane
Do I need to add fake walls to them? Like the facility tiles.
I definitely need to for the stores since they'd clip otherwise, but for the maintenance halls
tardy rivet
you mean objects that block the doors?
finite crane
No i mean, say if a T piece tile generates, and one end can't continue because it'd intersect a wall. Do I need to create a fake wall segment that "converts" the tile into a corner piece?
finite crane
Really? I recall seeing most interiors with fake walls in place for doorways that generated but couldn't generate a corresponding hallway
tardy rivet
usually that’s just because the random chance
finite crane
yyyyeah, but it generates a fake wall to get rid of that opening
Otherwise itd just lead into the void
tardy rivet
yeah that’s what blockers do
finite crane
yes I know but how does it work
Does it need a special asset with which to block off the path?
tardy rivet
yes, you add a prefab with the texture of the walls around it and specify that’s what you want to spawn
usually it’s a simple cube that fits the doorway
or plane if you want optimization
finite crane
Okay so if I create a fully textured wall segment that smoothly blocks off the entryway, you can just tell it to spawn that asset in the doorway
tardy rivet
yes
finite crane
Does that assets origin need to be aligned with the doorway node?
finite crane
the positioning I mean
tardy rivet
and positions itself at the doorway
finite crane
if I block off this intersection, it would need to be slightly offset from the doorway right?
Also wait, how do we handle the detail stuff on the roof?
That'd be with propsets right?
tardy rivet
if I block off this intersection, it would need to be slightly offset from the d...
no
if a path is blocked, the tile that connects to the blocked path (if there is one) will also have a blocker. If we use a plane, the clipping of the two blockers won’t be noticeable.
finite crane
but wouldnt it leave a small indent in the wall?
like, "there was supposed to be a hallway, but there isn't
if we offset the blocker to be lined up with the central part of the hall, it should just create a smooth dead end
tardy rivet
but wouldnt it leave a small indent in the wall?
no it wouldn’t, as long as the blocker is sized properly
also the doorway object positioning
finite crane
you'd have to offset the blocker from the actual doorway node
tardy rivet
alright i will when we are ready to finish up in unity
anyways i want to learn how to get better at blender this weekend
finite crane
the store tiles 
Made a quick dead end tile
or blocker rather
Should I make a proper dead end tile? maybe a cleaning closet or something?
tardy rivet
sure
tardy rivet
the store tiles <:stare2:757111169436614727>
yess i know
chilly pulsar
good thing <@856689661149184000> with all his accumulated experience volunteered...
what exactly am i being asked?
finite crane
Not much anymore
chilly pulsar
Is it possible for tiles generating in opposing directions to connect
yes
doorway connection chance
it means tiles on completely different branches (if their doors generate on top of each other) may choose to not use blockers and instead create a doorway
chilly pulsar
i'm not quite sure, i'm starting to learn myself
👀
chilly pulsar
don't look at me with those googly eyes 0 progress has been made
then ill MAKE you make progreds
hollow glade
then ill MAKE you make progreds
we'll see.......
tardy rivet
hey @finite crane I think Im also going to make some extra large store tiles but theres only going to be 3 of them
finite crane
Gotta find a way to connect it to both of the doorways
tardy rivet
Or we could make a rarer hallway tile that has larger doorways in it
it doesnt have to be too complicated
it can just be a dead end for the hallway tile set
finite crane
hey <@478949646497218560> I think Im also going to make some extra large store t...
oh, you NEED to make one of them a hardware store
tardy rivet
ok i will
finite crane
Oh shit, wait.
One of these for the maintenance area, but very rare
finite crane
Reckon I could make a lot of use of zeekers assets for that
and uhh
speaking of
GIVE ME MY FUCKING TEXTURES
finite crane
the professionasticator
tardy rivet
you will config me
tardy rivet
i already sent jacu the textures
tardy rivet
Im modeling the tiles first
chilly pulsar
(or take a stroll through the mall scene from the upturned for props)
tardy rivet
oh yes
nimble vector
(or take a stroll through the mall scene from the upturned for props)
We were kinda already doing that
Also stuff from actual malls
finite crane
I just found out you can rename tabs...
I...
Sure, yeah
tardy rivet
its ok i didnt either
finite crane
zeeker textuor
midnight heath
zeeker textuor
oh, hey, It looks good
finite crane
well, one of them is mine
plucky sigil
Looks amazings
tardy rivet
woah
nimble vector
You know I was debating in my head about the realism of a mall using pipes instead of Normal air ducts but some HVAC systems do that for older houses sometimes using flexible tubing and plus the aesthetic is growing on me. I can think of logical explanations of what like it's cheaper and easier by taking less space.
Also those textures look godly. They're executed almost perfectly.
finite crane
Made one for the cabling
finite crane
You know I was debating in my head about the realism of a mall using pipes inste...
It is HVAC ya goober
finite crane
It was a steel pipe back when I didnt have the appropriate textures lol
An actual steel pipe for a fucking ventilation unit would have been diabolical
tardy rivet
why are you so good at this
nimble vector
An actual steel pipe for a fucking ventilation unit would have been diabolical
Idk I can dig it, there are reasons to use hard ducts and if you can't get the big square ones I can see steel pipes working.
finite crane
I mean, I was planning on throwing in a handful of the facility pipes in
Not many, but a handful yknow
nimble vector
Not many, but a handful yknow
Yes
chilly pulsar
zeeker textuor
id honestly scale it up more. the pixel difference between the wall and fan is very noticable
this looks great tho!
chilly pulsar
why did he turn into grey peter griffin
finite crane
id honestly scale it up more. the pixel difference between the wall and fan is v...
Yeah the wall resolution isnt great
Its a 300p image 💀
nimble vector
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1173097017539563580/1418439673600278548/e...
Manulization
finite crane
yeah.. id stick to 512
surprisingly difficult with how weird the res on the original image is
Wait...
No what
Idk how I managed this but I apparently downscaled the image like mad
Okay well
chilly pulsar
Idk how I managed this but I apparently downscaled the image like mad
howd you manage to do this
finite crane
I wish I could tell you
chilly pulsar
is this a tool to convert irl images into textures?
finite crane
No I made it by hand
chilly pulsar
howwww
finite crane
I never resized anything, so I have no fucking clue
chilly pulsar
its literally bent in the original image
how tf did it straighten then
im so confused
finite crane
Brother I have spent maybe 200 hours in gimp, I know a thing or two
chilly pulsar
chilly pulsar
Brother I have spent maybe 200 hours in gimp, I know a thing or two
ohhh you MANUALLY made it
ok
finite crane
Yeah
Case and point, I have no fucking clue how it got downscaled
I never did any scaling
Cropping? yes. Cage edit to get rid of the warp? yes. No resizing though
plucky sigil
Hi
tardy rivet
Idk how I managed this but I apparently downscaled the image like mad
theres no way
plucky sigil
Idk how I managed this but I apparently downscaled the image like mad
Is that
Real life?
chilly pulsar
Cropping? yes. Cage edit to get rid of the warp? yes. No resizing though
oh. i thought you did it by hand using different stuff. ok that explains it
yeah i should get gimp for that then
finite crane
Well, it did involve color correction and a lot of clone tooling etc
Took about 40 minutes
-10 from me fiddling trying to find a good way to make it looping
Also apparently my phone is locked to jpeg compression when taking pics
this fucking sucks
nimble vector
https://tenor.com/view/orange-cat-my-honest-reaction-uh-what-googly-moogly-gif-1...
A cat?
(Puts on hoodie)
BEANIE THE CAT!?
finite crane
Also apparently my phone is locked to jpeg compression when taking pics
I have unlocked PNGs
Went off on a tangent testing the camera and got this nifty carpet looking texture
nimble vector
I have unlocked PNGs
So much effort for a tiny 4 second joke that I could've just typed
nimble vector
I just thought of something, will this interior have any form of unique items? Like scrap, apparatus, really anything at all.
tardy rivet
i havent planned on doing it, but if thats what you want to see than I could possibly make it
nimble vector
Your vision your rules, I just realized it hasn't come up yet.
finite crane
Reckon this is high res enough? lmao
Though I really wish my phone had captured it in PNG before, because its got jpeg crust everywhere
tardy rivet
Reckon this is high res enough? lmao
try it out in blender and see