Harvest Moons (and other autumnis mods)

[slim lagoon]

i would love to change that! i can't

[faint wind]

@sinful pumice Can you please add an option to your tweaks mod to also remove the fog inside on Cambrian?

So interiors like Dreary Pipeworks aren't impossible to see in lol, cus Dreary sucks on Cambrian rn cus of the fog

[sinful pumice]

Sure, I'll look into it later

[faint wind]

ty cus Dreary fits the moon perfectly thematically but the interior fog makes it awful lol

[sinful pumice]

hmm, it seems like Cambrian has a few "Local Volumetric Fog" objects which add fog to the surface, but also bleed into the interior.

Can you try disabling "InsideFog" in Unity Explorer and see if it helps with Dreary?

[sinful pumice]

I could tweak the height of the LocalVolumetricFogs so it doesn't bleed into the interior, but maybe it would be better to ask @slim lagoon to adjust it?

[slim lagoon]

didn't realize they bled into the interior

will check that out at some point

[dry grotto]

Couldn't resist putting this here

[slim lagoon]

🥹

[shell flare]

hi mod authors, are you guys aware of a bug that makes this mod incompatible with mods that add other enemies into the game? the harvest moons simply do not recognize modded enemies, they are instantly erased from existence when the game attempts to spawn them and they don't even show up as spawnable entities in the dev tools

[merry jacinth]

I can confirm it's something else, I played on harvest moons yesterday and the day before and I saw my own enemies and also LC Office's shrimp on these moons

maybe it's another mod?

[slim lagoon]

that's something else causing that, never had this issue

[shell flare]

thank you, i'm helping a friend debug their mods and i don't have access to the logs to look at them so i'm just taking their word at face value

[green light]

Hello, I'm the friend in question.

Apparently it's LethalQuantities - which sucks, because I already set up a bunch of stuff with it in the modpack, but ah well.

[merry jacinth]

ah yeah, lq being outdated really sucks :(

[stone bison]

can I see the code?
I've been using LQ + this mod a while ago and I've never had this issue

[green light]

Apparently it's ShipWindows???
The actual bug I'm encountering is Scopophobia's shyguy spawning on moons invisible, which in the most isolated environment I could create still causes this bug as long as ShipWindows is enabled. Quantities being disabled fixes a seperate monster-logging visual bug I was experiencing that I thought was tied to the invisible shyguy bug, but it wasn't.

Though if I recall, your Megalophobia pack has both Scopophobia and ShipWindows? Was there any interaction you noticed between them, or am I just insane

[green light]

Fow now I'll just get back to working on Quantities and disable Scopophobia until I hear from you

[stone bison]

there may be another mod

cuz I have both of them and they are working perfectly

[green light]

What, that's conflicting with them?

In the isolated test pack, the only mods I have are ones that I know are in Megalophobia

Unless you mean that you have a fix-mod or something

[torpid dragon]

Does the standalone blind wolf pup mod make them spawn on all moons? Or is it only for the hazard moons

[merry jacinth]

apparently can make em.spawn anywhere but they have a super low chance

[torpid dragon]

No config file right?

[compact forge]

there is no cfg file no. it doesnt spawn them everywhere, it spawns them based on level tag w LLL. iirc its wasteland and canyon?

[torpid dragon]

Darn. See I don’t wanna use LLL because I don’t want to set that for all my other monster mods (some are incompatible like the plague doctor and the flamingo SCP). Are there any plans to add a config?

[merry jacinth]

ooooh that makes a lot more sense

[merry jacinth]

plague doctor and flamingo are incompatible with LLL?

[torpid dragon]

Well when I tried to using lethal quantities to spawn them it breaks their behavior that spawns additional monsters. They both spawn extra enemies with them. I assume LLL will do the same because you would have to list both monsters and it doesn’t really work like that

[slim lagoon]

that's probably just an issue with the enemies themselves then, lethal quantities is compatible with most things and LLL should be compatible with everything

[torpid dragon]

It’s the way they spawn the flamingos and zombies. I tried posting it on both of their mod pages but neither side seemed to be able to resolve it

[slim lagoon]

mod has been updated

[merry jacinth]

what changede?

[compact forge]

im curious abt these temper changes..............

[merry jacinth]

temper changes?

splendid

if you removed barbers from there I'm killing you with rocks @slim lagoon

[slim lagoon]

i was gonna make tghem 1 spawn weight but i forgot

[compact forge]

dont they spawn both in and outdoors

[merry jacinth]

why would you do that!! it's like the most interesting thing about temper smh

outside barbers rock bro . ,.

[slim lagoon]

they have 1 max spawn count and ideally i'm accounting for vanilla!!

[compact forge]

:^(

[merry jacinth]

boo

[slim lagoon]

i forgot though so they're the same as last update in terms of spawn weight

[merry jacinth]

throw rocks and debris and such at this user

[compact forge]

https://tenor.com/view/wizard-rock-throwing-gif-3095471689337470556

we want barbabas

give us barb

[merry jacinth]

you have a giant baboon hawk on fray, I think you should have fun and be silly and have 2-3 pre-placed barbers on the wooded area

[slim lagoon]

i havent' tested if that works yet and im lazy so i WONTR!!!

[merry jacinth]

I tested it

they work perfectly

[slim lagoon]

fuck

[merry jacinth]

they don't go in a conga line since that changed, but with AI fix they work exactly like solo barbers do, but in higher quantities

[slim lagoon]

uhh maybe next update

[compact forge]

barberbros we stay winning

[slim lagoon]

also read the changelog.....

[compact forge]

speaking of, whats the

october update

is that just pumpkin

[slim lagoon]

hallowed eve

[compact forge]

True!

[slim lagoon]

if you're lucky enough you can find 10 pumpkins on temper

[merry jacinth]

I'm in the store

[compact forge]

Visual adjustments to Fray.
Fixed Cambrian's main entrance scan node being behind them main entrance.
Various improvements to temper.
Wider ship and problematic pilotry are now compatible.
October update.

[slim lagoon]

WAIT I DIDN'T FIX THE CAMBRIAN SCAN NODE I WROTE THAT DOWN IN THE CHANGELOG BEFORE I DID ANYTHING AUGH

[compact forge]

howd you make probPilot "compatibility"

[slim lagoon]

made the navmesh not static so they can mess with it now

[merry jacinth]

I suppose removed AI nodes on really fucked areas

oh cool

[compact forge]

is probPilot alive?????

[merry jacinth]

uuuuh idk!!

[slim lagoon]

idk!

[merry jacinth]

works perfectly fine without the cruiser

[compact forge]

so we're all on the same page then. neat to know you can do that tho

now burn yourself out by making an interior

[slim lagoon]

prominence boiled me alive so i'm gonna make an interior to undo that

[slim lagoon]

nevermind i got better ideas for prominence

[blazing spoke]

🙂

i just want more upgraded vanilla enemies

[slim lagoon]

i have bad news

[blazing spoke]

i dont see how having more upgraded enemies is a bad thing

[slim lagoon]

it's not an upgraded enemy, it's a gimmick that's actually cool 😔

[blazing spoke]

gimmicks are not bad news either

[civic jetty]

So I'm using LLL to config Cambrian. We've played it like 5 times now and haven't seen any Aquatic Leviathans. I noticed that the config for outside nighttime enemies is:
Aquatic Leviathan:100
But if I used menemies to check enemy names it's called
waterWorm
Is this possibly an issue? Or maybe we've just gotten lucky?

Hmmm altho the vanilla sand worm seems to mirror this with it's menemies name vs what's in the config

[slim lagoon]

configuring cambrian with LLL might break the custom enemies, not sure. will see if i can fix that

[fair citrus]

I have come to say so far my crew is liking the moons

[zinc ginkgo]

these are some of my fav custom moons

[slim lagoon]

old clip from cambrian testing

[zinc ginkgo]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-what-i-woulda-did-thats-the-technique-tiktok-hitman-yeah-gif-11959249467197783308

[blazing spoke]

i should put the oggledoggle back on Cambrian. it was scary just having it lunge out of the wet ground XD

[slim lagoon]

prominence spoi;ers

[blazing spoke]

👀

[slim lagoon]

the most messed up part of this clip isn't the amount of barbers, but the fact you got a facility on temper

[compact forge]

you should see how often i roll mansion on vow/assurance or facility on rend/dine. blowing all my luck on rare interiors

[limber raft]

whats the deal with the white forest giant on fray that spawns near the ravine fire exit? its the only "unique enemy" added by the mod that nobody has named or spoken about so far, atleast not that i've seen

i call it the "ghost giant" because it always spawns in that exact place everytime and is bleach white to blend in with the fog too

does it have a bigger healthpool/is faster or something like that?

[compact forge]

not many people go to that fire exit lol. its likely just a prefab force spawned keeper w nothing special, maybe a texture tweak

[blazing spoke]

... it's white?

could never tell with how dark and claustrophobic the area is

[compact forge]

its even harder to tell w the adrenaline screen effects

[blazing spoke]

yeh

[slim lagoon]

it should just have the regular textures

it's at a specific fire exit, in a special forest giant arena

[blazing spoke]

might just be from enemyskinregistry?

[merry jacinth]

prolly just got the birch or tundra skins for the keeper yeah

[faint wind]

That's some wicked rng for them to always be getting the white skins 😆

[slim lagoon]

enemy skins do work on the pre-placed enemies, i've seen colorful enemy variety override the custom textures of the alpha and matriarch

[winged spire]

I'm curious, is the light bleed on Fray and Sierra intentional

[slim lagoon]

light bleed?

[winged spire]

Daylight lighting up the interior

[slim lagoon]

i haven't seen that happen, do you have a screenshot?

[winged spire]

I don't, but if I see it again I'll take one

[gray rover]

spooky tree on temper

[slim lagoon]

i was wondering if people would find that

[blazing spoke]

tree is Temperamental

[slim lagoon]

prominence is still not finished but there may or may not be this eventually

[queen summit]

I saw a moon called ||vaporization|| pop up in my modpack recently, and am trying figure out which mod it is coming from since I can't find any other info about it. Is it yours?

[blazing spoke]

||Generic Moons||

[blazing spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-cant-hear-you-too-dark-funny-gif-8063867

[slim lagoon]

very normal

[zinc ginkgo]

oooh, how'd you do this?

[slim lagoon]

are there any videos that use harvest moons

[blazing spoke]

off the top of my head, dont think so(?)
why? .3.

[merry jacinth]

there prolly are, I just don't think moons are usually what youtubers decide to make the main thing in their videos

atleast the big ones, I guess

[floral acorn]

ive seen most of them playing on wesleys, but they could've played yours on a livestream somewhere

[slim lagoon]

curiosity, i want to see people play my mod

[floral acorn]

sierra has a weird issue when its stormy

it doesnt turn into night at all

[slim lagoon]

ah yeah that's because i modified the sun animator to make it turn night but stormy uses a different sun animator

[floral acorn]

ohhh

[hollow glen]

Well, it just so happens our group had our first run in with the ||FRAY THING||
Let me tell you, it terrified the nine hells out of us! Phenomenal job!
||Apologies for the audio quality, was figuring out the Steam Recording function :[||

[slim lagoon]

horrifying clips, i love it

[urban thorn]

That first clip was terrifying what interior is that

[hollow glen]

That's https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1245264812338839586 !

Funnily enough that wasn't the worst of that run. I left out three more minutes of me trying to desperately crawl my way out of that forsaken facility while being hunted by the entire damn ecosystem

Brackens, thumpers, maneaters even....

[slim lagoon]

goodbye bro

[blazing spoke]

🇫

[pale warren]

Like the moons, but not a big fan of interior fog and pups. Pup's hearing is too good for an interior. Literally feels like an Eyeless Dog with scaled down model/hitbox. But I bet I'm not the first one with such complaints.

[slim lagoon]

once the mod updates they'll only do 50 damage, and i'll try out making them only hear louder noises.

[pale warren]

Their hearing is most problematic on multi level interiors. I don't mind them being instakill though. In a perfect world it would've been cool if they took time to tear employee apart. That way they'd still be as dangerous if you're alone, but if someone was around they could save you.

[merry jacinth]

i mean they feel like that cuz rn that's what they are

but like autumnis said they'll be balanced shortly :]

there's also a mod to remove fray's interior fog, tho im not the biggest fan

[pale warren]

Fray's fog is actually bearable. Sierra's is a bit much though.

[merry jacinth]

sierra has fog?

you sure you didn't by accident roll the vanilla interior fog chance or smth

last time I checked sierra had a sort of rolling fog that didn't obscure much of anything really

unless that was changed

[pale warren]

Roll the vanilla interior fog?

[floral acorn]

zeeks added a chance for interiors to have fog

[pale warren]

I must've rolled it every time then.

[floral acorn]

try installing a mod that disables vanilla fog and see if its that

[slim lagoon]

take a screenshot inside of what you mean

[pale warren]

I only ever had Storehouse (Generic Interiors) as interior on Sierra. Maybe said interior fog looks worse on it specifically.

[winged spire]

Tried to run over the huge Baboon hawk on Fray with the cruiser and phased straight through it like it was a ghost

[slim lagoon]

issue of skill!

[winged spire]

I drove directly into it 5 times with multiple witnesses

[slim lagoon]

if this is an issue for me then i have no idea how to fix it

[winged spire]

Fair enough

[slim lagoon]

outside of completely preventing you from playing the game which i have no idea how to fix, prominence is playable! there's still a few special things i want to add to it though (like not completely preventing you from playing the game)

[ripe iron]

Sounds like a “75% of the time it works 100% of the time”-kind of moon, very prominent

[slim lagoon]

actually playing my moons, eclipsed temper got me fucked up

four butlers, a mask, a jester, all in main

[slim lagoon]

I'M GETTING SOMEWHERE I CAN GET INTO A LOBBY

problem: removing prominence from the build was what fixed it so something's wrong with prominence

but this is still something

alright so none of the moons load and each one has a completely different error from one another

[floral acorn]

did you update them after v69 dropped?

ive seen some people recompile their mods for the new version

it could probably be that

[slim lagoon]

i tried updating to v69 to fix not being able to open a lobby but that didn't work so

they are on a v69 version now but the only change i think happened was me adding snowmen to temper

[minor cloud]

what interior is that

[merry jacinth]

forgot how fucking hellish this clip was

[stone bison]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/YippieDev/LethalApertureDunGen/

[minor cloud]

thx

[stone bison]

👍

[hollow glen]

Wanna see an extended version? :V
It was the perfect way to go
https://youtu.be/3-TjPO1RhqY

[merry jacinth]

thank you so much lmao

[blazing spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/the-fog-is-coming-brutality-gif-26972933

[slim lagoon]

oh my god the ending

[slim lagoon]

prominence teaser

[merry jacinth]

holy freak, facility!!!

[blazing spoke]

.3.

[slim lagoon]

temper's blizzard will be changed to match rend's blizzard instead of being boring normal fog (temper had like 10 local fog volumes i don't know what i was doing)

[faint wind]

🙂

Maybe this will fix foggy weather being so hard to see in too lol

Foggy Weather existing on Temper never made too much sense anyways since it's excluded from the Vanilla Blizzard moons tbh

[slim lagoon]

oh huh i didn't know that

[slim lagoon]

fun prominence fact: it's out now

[merry jacinth]

https://tenor.com/view/gülmek-komik-gif-1506407869824367367

peak is back on the menu

[blazing spoke]

Prominence have a boss monster? .3.

[stone bison]

some issues I've found on Sierra:

• No DropShip theme on landing
• No big sun

also, optional.
Add a Switch inside the entrance in case you entered the dungeon from the fire exit and wanna leave through the main entrance

[slim lagoon]

the sun's there i think it's just outside the render distance though. i have to change the animation to fix that which is annoying but i'll fix that at some point.

[scarlet owl]

Actually kinda dig blizzard weather for Cambrian

Wanted to see how some of the LElements weathers are like for the various moons and that one was nice

[floral acorn]

ice age lmfao

[blazing spoke]

awesome aesthetic here. grim as fuck. love it

[urban thorn]

You outdid yourself with prominence

The gimmick is sick

[queen summit]

Im having some rendering issues inside on Prominenace

[urban thorn]

I think there’s a problem with cull factory

[queen summit]

^

[faint wind]

@sick hinge 🤔 any idea of how this would be fixed?

I think it's just tilting the Vanilla Facility from what I can tell, I'm not seeing a custom interior being registered

so I wonder why CullFactory breaks

[minor cloud]

what is exactly the teaser

its just the facility

[sick hinge]

tilting the interior???

I don't even know what that would do to DunGen, let alone CullFactory

at this rate I guess I need a moon blacklist

[faint wind]

It's part of the moon's gimmick lol

[sick hinge]

DunGen and therefore CullFactory assumes that everything is axis-aligned, and it would make things significantly slower for that not to be a problem

[faint wind]

Dungen seems to generate it okay although staircases are fucky XD

Oof

[sick hinge]

what does that mean?

[faint wind]

Basically you can't walk up staircases normally, you have to jump up them cus they react like slopes

[sick hinge]

oh physics wise, I see

[faint wind]

Yeah I think this is why Autumnis suggested not putting custom interiors on the moon btw

lol

It might mess those up in some odd ways

[sick hinge]

I guess as long as the dungeon is tilted at the root only it's probably not a problem for DunGen

as far as CullFactory, I could probably see if I can make some less accurate culling work, but I think I would rather just add that blacklist for now

[faint wind]

Yeah

[queen summit]

Oddly enough I just switched the interior to Niven Reactor and the gimmick seems to work fine and I didn't see any cull issues

https://tenor.com/view/i-don't-know-idk-idk-about-that-gif-7336250873949261946

[sick hinge]

possibly because the doorways are bigger?

or you're closer to the center where the bounds match up properly?

[slim lagoon]

you can use custom interiors and they should work fine (especially if they don't have too much verticality) but you should definitely test it first

[scarlet owl]

I imagine one that might be on the shaky side is Armory for that very reason

[slim lagoon]

"Grand armory is crying right now" -wesley at some point when i was talking about prominence's gimmick

[scarlet owl]

Curious how well does it work with Mineshaft's elevator?

Cause that's another one I'm kinda 🤔 of how that interacts

[slim lagoon]

i don't know, didn't test it. i didn't put mineshaft on prominence because i didn't think it'd work well

[scarlet owl]

Fair enough

[merry jacinth]

hmm that's interesting

[sick hinge]

physics regions rotate the player, so it would tilt you along with the elevator

I would assume so anyway

[minor cloud]

ohh I see now lol

[gentle tiger]

this bush behind the ship is kinda funi

[slim lagoon]

i have no idea how that even happened

[gentle tiger]

is the bush even vanilla ? i dont remember
that only happen in prominence

[void yacht]

uhm, i assume its not intended for the Matriarch to walk around with a T-Pose

lol

[forest torrent]

Lol, yeah I noticed that too. Matriarch did certainly not use to dominate on us like that.

Also, Smalldogs (or Blind pups as they are also called) are no longer able to spawn. I get this error on startup with only Harvest Moons (and its dependencies) installed.

[faint wind]

Autumnis did say the Blind pups might be broken cus he didn't test them

[slim lagoon]

new prop on sierra

[slim lagoon]

prominence has a blue sun in the editor why does it have a yellow one ingame????????????????????

updated the mod with some fixes i tihnk

[charred sinew]

Sun animation clip overrides sun texture by default

[slim lagoon]

i copied it from another vanilla moon though, it has no reason to do that

[charred sinew]

Yes this is what I mean by "default": on vanilla moons animation clips contain a texture override

If you copied it from a moon with a yellow sun it will always be that way unless you edit the animation

[slim lagoon]

copied it from a moon with a blue sun

[stone bison]

Hello!
Tested Temper, Very good performant wise, but I can't hear the ambient wind sound outside :,]

Prominence is amazing, great ambient sound, but there's something near the ship that can be seen through the wind

[gentle tiger]

the bushes stares back at you

[slim lagoon]

fun fact, every version that has had a new moon after fray has had a new icon style

[merry jacinth]

oh dude I remember these

honestly every single one has been an upgrade from the last

[charred sinew]

[Error  : Unity Log] ArgumentOutOfRangeException: 'minValue' cannot be greater than maxValue.
Parameter name: minValue
Stack trace:
System.Random.Next (System.Int32 minValue, System.Int32 maxValue) (at <787acc3c9a4c471ba7d971300105af24>:IL_001D)
(wrapper dynamic-method) RoundManager.DMD<RoundManager::PlotOutEnemiesForNextHour>(RoundManager)
(wrapper dynamic-method) RoundManager.DMD<RoundManager::BeginEnemySpawning>(RoundManager)
RoundManager.Update () (at <bdf6a080e98a49fd84b92b24894f768c>:IL_006E)

This error appears on landing even without any other mod, not sure yet if it breaks spawning entirely or not.

On Prominence

i suppose one of the enemies is incorrectly configured

[slim lagoon]

i! have no idea what this means or how to fix it

[red lance]

Spawns worked fine from my end, I think

Unless there are supposed to be more eyeless dogs outside? I've seen mostly only one

[naive violet]

do all of harvest moons moons has unique enemies

[red lance]

All but Temper and Prominence

[floral acorn]

temper used to have one tho

it was a nutcracker reskin with a spotlight

[red lance]

It feels empty without em

Its a killer idea

[merry jacinth]

I still think it'd be a cool idea, atleast for a prop

[naive violet]

weird visual issue on prom

[stone bison]

that's most prob a CullFactory Issue

[naive violet]

prob, ik there is an interior blacklist but is there a moon blacklist

[scarlet owl]

Don't think so since so few of moon makers manipulate the interiors in some way
Only other prominent person that does is Wesley, and by smaller extent with some moons folks like Distinct with Volition and v0xx with Derelict (I think Rosie does it to some of her moons too but memory is failing me rn)

Autumn's the only person that I've seen to publish a moon that does it but I think there was someone (prob Wesley) that did showcase that you could also tilt the interior around on a moon

[slim lagoon]

eyeless dogs are one of the rarer prominence enemies

[slim lagoon]

unfortunately it also had killer bugs. it even had a cool story log related to it... but perhaps something else is also out there in the blizzard, simply remaining undiscovered?

[slim lagoon]

cullfactory issue, i think the dev's thinking of a moon blacklist

[naive violet]

Showcased the moons https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLBuGXqLymvSdg2QhQqqj-ZeYeqf_r4yRe

[red lance]

The mega outside barber

Dual wieldinf scissors

[scarlet owl]

It'd make sense for a moon blacklist too in the case of something like Prominence's mechanic cropping up again elsewhere

Probably would be some very slight angles cause extreme tilting like upside-down would be a neat idea but doesn't work for how typical interiors are set up

[swift monolith]

@slim lagoon is Prominence based off of the Aurora from Subnautica

or am I tripping

[slim lagoon]

literally prominence

[swift monolith]

gyatt

also kinda reminds me of the harbor from content warning

i love this moon so much

great job

[upbeat knoll]

Prominence is peak yeah

[slim lagoon]

friend had a really cool concept for a lethal company thing and i really liked one of the moon concepts so of course had to recreate it in unity

[swift monolith]

have u been given permission/will go through with this concept?

[slim lagoon]

probably not because it's a ton of concepts for most possible types of content, not just moons (they're all really good ideas though) this isn't playable, just a bunch of assets thrown around currently

[forest torrent]

Hey! Great that you could fix Matriarch and Blind pup in the latest update. However Cambrian appears to no longer have an exterior navmesh. Tested just now with only HarvestMoons and Imperium installed. When visualizing navmesh there's nothing when outside and the console is spammed with SetDestination errors since there is presumably no navmesh for the manticoils...

[slim lagoon]

hm. that's actually a critical bug. give me a bit to fix that

[slim lagoon]

should be fixed, update is out now

[slim lagoon]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Magic_Wesley/Wesleys_Moons/ go check it out i got to test this

[forest torrent]

Yup it's fixed. Nicely done. 👍

[slim lagoon]

in the next update i will add new original enemy visionless adolescents

[merry jacinth]

please add a purple nutcracker that's like super big that has a spotlight..

[winged spire]

Was Sierras sun always this big or was that a recent change

[swift monolith]

Holy shit it's so big it's clipping into the facility 😭

[slim lagoon]

always that big, it was broken and invisible though

[slate kernel]

Did you figure this one out @slim lagoon ?

[slim lagoon]

no

[slate kernel]

You mixed up the min and max values

Minvalue is bigger than the max

[warped raven]

@slim lagoon what is the gimmick

[slim lagoon]

land on prominence and find out

[warped raven]

:(

ok

Oh

this is actually cool

[slim lagoon]

i want to work on Archaic but i also want to work on my interior

https://tenor.com/view/baby-seal-sad-cry-meme-seal-gif-19608082

[slim lagoon]

archaic wins i got a layout idea

[slim lagoon]

oups

[slate kernel]

You can’t park there, sir!

[slim lagoon]

all the moons are getting terminal preview videos in the next update

[charred sinew]

I'm not sure if this is something from my modpack or not, but seems like on Cambrian the dropship doesn't play its music

[untold canyon]

I installed Harvest moons in my modpack but my game loaded weirldy and I couldn't move and saw some green on a black screen.

Basically I couldn't play the game after installing harvest

turns out might've been a lll thing

[charred sinew]

if you have LLL v1.4.9 its that

[untold canyon]

ooop

[faint wind]

1.4.10 should already be up and it's fixed

[untold canyon]

I'm ngl, I feel like I haven't seen like ANY enemies on Prominence at all. I went to the moon like 3-5 times and haven't seen a single enemy D:

[slim lagoon]

might be a me issue, i'll check

[untold canyon]

I tried it again today and still didn't see anything. Could be my modpack though but it's only happening on prominence.

[unborn current]

Does anyone else experience interior desync only on harvest moons?

[scarlet owl]

Hm, what interior is it happening on and are you using a mod to adjust stuff regarding the interior (such as chances, sizes, etc.) If so, which mod are you using for it?

Figured to ask some of these details in the case if it's something misconfigured with a different mod rather than smth with Harvest Moons specifically

[unborn current]

It ended up being something with the configs. 2 other people had to sync configs with me and it fixed the issue, which is weird as one person didnt have to sync anything with me.

[scarlet owl]

Ah, config mismatch would do it too

[unborn current]

Before updating the configs 2 non-harvest-moons moons didnt work so i suspect it was LLL

The configs are sometimes nightmares in this game lmao

[viscid oar]

What hapened to all the other enemies this mod used to have? ):

i liked using them as passive enemies for daytime lol

or maybe they arent spawning bc im only setting the weights with CentralConfig but i used to force enable enemies with LethalQuantities

now that im typing this out and thinking it through im assuming they just wont spawn from weights alone similar to some other modded enemies

yep that seemed to be it

LethalQuantities -> Global -> checked "Inside" "Outside" and "Daytime" enemies boxes -> Add all -> Enable all -> save/done (dont need to enter numeric values for rarity if using CentralConfig)

Your enemies are dope why not just add them all to standalone and make it modularly configurable??

[slim lagoon]

i physically can't make it configurable, i register them all with LLL

[viscid oar]

Word, above my pay grade

Either way glad they weren’t taken out cuz they’re cool variation

Ty

[merry jacinth]

afaik they're all still here, which ones do you mean?

cuz all 3 I know of are not passive 6w6

[viscid oar]

It’s been like 6 months since I’ve played for context but last time I played the queen hoarding bug I think?

Didn’t do anything when outside

[merry jacinth]

yeah, though that's from rosie's

autumnis' enemies are all aggressive afaik

sightless alpha, blind pup, tree masked, matriarch, and the water leviathan thingy

[slim lagoon]

that's from rosie's moons

[slim lagoon]

you're forgetting the Temper Enemy

[merry jacinth]

barber?

[slim lagoon]

it has a unique one

[merry jacinth]

since when?

[slim lagoon]

oh y'know

[merry jacinth]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1192948703309344859/1338136497450258492/image0.gif

[viscid oar]

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[eager grove]

is it possible to remove the boss enemies from the moons

i like the idea but the specific moons im using aren't in a good spot for it

id rather save them for a different purpose

i tried setting the matriarch to 0 on fray but it still spawns

idk how to get rid of them

[eager grove]

https://tenor.com/view/masked-lethal-company-mewing-gif-1325457021374427090

[merry jacinth]

they're prefabs (?) so you can't remove them yourself im p sure

[slim lagoon]

you currently can't, i'll probably see if i can make a config for it maybe

[eager grove]

if possible please do that

it would help a lot with my modpack rebalancing

cuz i wanna use stuff like the matriarch and alpha but they dont fit where i placed fray and sierra (vanilla+ nebula, first custom nebula)

[slim lagoon]

teaser

[eager grove]

echoreach?

[blazing spoke]

prays for volcanic

[eager grove]

actually ill do you one even better

[eager grove]

@slim lagoon forwarding this here since vodka told me to refer to you

do you have any idea what could be happening here?

blind pups keep spawning on dirge and i cant change it

[slim lagoon]

do you mean them spawning at all or being the only spawn?

[eager grove]

spawning at all

ion want them there

i was gonna relegate them to one of my other nebulas

but bramble is supposed to be relatively vanilla+

same ordeal as the matriarch/alpha on your moons

only this time its happening on a different moon pack

[slim lagoon]

if you have standalone blind pups and not harvest moons, you can remove that mod and they won't spawn. if you have harvest moons, you have to use something like lethal quantities to configure their spawns.

i might change it so the blind pups from harvest moons itself can only spawn on sierra and the standalone blind pups are the only ones that can spawn elsewhere, if people want that

[eager grove]

out of curiousity would lethalquantities get rid of the matriarch and alpha too

so far ive just been using LLL spawn lists and it hasnt worked

[slim lagoon]

no, they are pre-placed on the scene itself

[eager grove]

ah

[slim lagoon]

i don't think LLL's config would work for configuring blind pups

[eager grove]

i practically just slapped ",SmallDog:0" on dirge and it did nothing

[slim lagoon]

they aren't in the actual spawn list because of lethal level loader weirdness and are technically added afterwards so the config probably takes lower priority than the enemy weight injection thing

[eager grove]

this would also probably fix my sentinel issues

...if sentinel was ever updated/the creator wasnt narcissistic
(still not over that its such a cool enemy to be wasted)

anyways ill try lethalquantities then

hopefully itll fix

[slim lagoon]

vodka said they thought the blind pups from harvest moons don't spawn elsewhere so i'll probably just remove harvest moon blind pup's elsewhere spawns in the next update

[slim lagoon]

do note lethal quantities is rather complicated

and a bit buggy

[eager grove]

should i just wait for the update then like matriarch/alpha

[merry jacinth]

I think that would make the most sense

[eager grove]

would centralconfig also do the job just fine?

[slim lagoon]

maybe, haven't tried it

[viscid oar]

Yes this is what I use

Works for every modded enemy except most of the ones from Ooblterra

[desert laurel]

prominance stairs lack railing colliders pls fix

[merry jacinth]

https://tenor.com/view/black-dog-dog-dog-bite-bite-crazy-gif-10076790192838665171

autumnis! autumnis! autumnis! autumnis! autumnis! autumnis! autumnis! autumnis! autumnis! autumnis!

fix the moon autumnis!

[slim lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/lethal-company-gif-8890329830311161961

[floral acorn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1261443344068907020/1286125901255282720/ezgif-3-579833e829.gif

[slim lagoon]

sigh...still no yountuben vidfeo iwth hanrvest moons in it...

[merry jacinth]

I'll do moon showcases... someday, don't you worry goat

[blazing spoke]

@naive violet ^^

[naive violet]

I already did them lol

did I never post them here

[slim lagoon]

i frogot

siogh.......itdoenst cuont.......that's just showing off of the moons instead of actually playingo ntherm............................................

[faint wind]

I have a few vods where I played on them 🤷‍♀️

[slim lagoon]

spotting one specific moon in 500 vods is a bit difficult

[granite kite]

Don’t think I’ve mentioned this but I stumbled upon your moon reviews and they’re great. Especially if I don’t know what a specific moon looks like or didn’t know a moon mod existed.

[slim lagoon]

that looks awfully close

[merry jacinth]

I LOVE SIERRA 🔥

[floral acorn]

go my hounds

[merry jacinth]

I take it back I don't love Sierra

[blazing spoke]

old Sierra, my beloved

[slim lagoon]

found out why the dropships were missing music

the original music isn't in my project for some reason so i'm giving them the vehicle delivery music and calling it a day

[slim lagoon]

currently redoing sierra's main entrance because i wanted to add a new detail to it, i'm horrified at how i made this

tons of cubes, not one of them is aligned correctly

we gotta go bald

[untold canyon]

Does prominence not have an indoor power count?

I went their three days and didn't find any enemies inside

[charred sinew]

if this wasn't fixed, then it could be that
check your log, but you can't fix it yourself if it is indeed the problem

[untold canyon]

Ngl that log is gone as that was on a test modpack. Most likely is that issue though

[merry jacinth]

I did not see any enemies inside, no

[untold canyon]

So it's not just me. That good. I did see a hoarder bug outside but nothing inside ;-;

[merry jacinth]

i mean enemies would probably cry about being there

[slim lagoon]

oh fuck this is a me issue then

[slim lagoon]

i have no idea why this is happening

[slim lagoon]

and i tested it, enemies work fine inside

am i missing something here? why are enemies broken

[winged spire]

Try making your probability ranges a non zero number

[charred sinew]

int num3 = Mathf.Clamp(AnomalyRandom.Next((int)(num2 - currentLevel.spawnProbabilityRange), (int)(num + currentLevel.spawnProbabilityRange)), minEnemiesToSpawn, 20);

yeah it seems to be cause num2 +-currentLevel.spawnProbabilityRange is the same number in your case

[slim lagoon]

🥹

[charred sinew]

i'd change both numbers at the bottom, btw

[slim lagoon]

cambrian has been consumed by the waves. goodbye.

[blazing spoke]

🇫

[untold canyon]

So what's the update on prominence? Like hows it going so far on it.

[slim lagoon]

fixed but not uploaded

[untold canyon]

ohh okok

[inland leaf]

FERAL HOGS!!!

[slim lagoon]

here's the changelog for the next update if anyone wants to know how it is going (green dots are done, red dots are wip)

[inland leaf]

actually getting work done? impossible, i could never

[blazing spoke]

👀

[untold canyon]

Archaic sounds awesome ngl

[merry jacinth]

THE FRAY CHANGES

aughhh,,, im gonna peak out!!!!

im excited for the new cambrian layout btw

[eager grove]

did you add a config for the alpha and matriarch 👁️

[slim lagoon]

oh yes i'm also doing that

[slim lagoon]

i forgot i also wanted to add wesley's moons progression support this will perhaps take longer than previously predicted

[merry jacinth]

hmm

you sure you wanna do that this update?

you could release this one and then work on that afterwards

[slim lagoon]

sighhhhhhh fine

[merry jacinth]

yaay

[wheat owl]

poor guy spawned inside a rock on Temper 😦

[slim lagoon]

old scrapped interior, The Warehouse. baby's first interior, mostly just the interior template re-scaled. i plan on maybe remaking it eventually

[merry jacinth]

ooo release it ooo

looks cool tho :3

[inland leaf]

why its so beeg...

turns you into a beby...

[wheat owl]

this seems... particularly neat. If it had some tweaks to rooms to specifically compliment tiny player/monster navigation (wooden boards as ramps to let you up on shelves and such) and was also blended with that shrink ray mod, then perhaps it could be made into a very fun unique experience with enough fine-tuning 🤔

[slim lagoon]

i forgot sierra's sun is completely busted and i have to fix that 🥹

i should probably use my to-do list as a to-do list and not my changelog

[inland leaf]

sorry i eateds your sun

i was hungryuy

[slim lagoon]

don't wanna open microsoft edge to update harvest moons but it'll require physicsapi soon probably so people should get that

[slim lagoon]

i was lying by the way

for april fools

because physicsapi is a joke mod

made for april fools

anyways i think i will remaster temper kinda maybe a little bit as a treat

[merry jacinth]

https://tenor.com/view/omni-man-omni-man-are-you-sure-are-you-sure-invincible-gif-3935116808772397515

[slim lagoon]

I HAVE TO MANUALLY PLACE THE TREES AGAIN I FORGOT

NO

PLEASE

I DON'T WANNA MANUALLY PLACE 200 TREES AGAIN

[winged spire]

[slim lagoon]

gonna reduce the outside power of cambrian so if the aquatic leviathan spawns then nothing else can spawn

[stone bison]

that's actually a good idea

[merry jacinth]

could other shit spawn there before?

[slim lagoon]

modded enemies sometimes

[merry jacinth]

chat what did they mean by this

[faint wind]

Bro I swear everyone has brain rot lol

[eager grove]

square moons

[eager grove]

@slim lagoon did you do those configs for the matriarch and alpha?
i remember you saying it would when it updates and i just got back from hiatus and checked my pack

dont see a config for harvestmoons

[slim lagoon]

mod hasn't updated yet (and i haven't yet figured out how to make the config actually work)

[slim lagoon]

HAS NOBODY EVER BEEN TO FRAY SINCE PROMINENCE WAS ADDED?

MULTIPLE FIRE EXITS JUST BRING YOU DIRECTLY INTO THE VOID

HOW DID NOBODY EVER TELL ME THIS

[merry jacinth]

WHAT LMAO

i feel like I played there a bunch, never got that though

wack asf

[stone bison]

I've been to Fray several times, but I haven't fallen into the Void.
Of course, I haven't used the fire exits much either, due to their location on the map, but I remember using them.
And no, we haven't fallen into the Void.

[lusty flame]

I thought it was intentional XD

[slim lagoon]

i'm not wesley i would never intentionally add a fire exit that instantly kills you

[swift monolith]

God I slept on the Matriarch entity

I'm gonna use them

Don't let Artificer know about this

[swift monolith]

Speaking of; their bestiary is broken, and they can attack their fellow baboon hawks

I know the former is a bug, but the latter might be too. If it's not, then that's a pretty weird design choice personally. Why would it be like that?

[amber bluff]

because fun

[slim lagoon]

these are both issues that i believe i can't fix
first is an lll issue with the bestiary entries of registered enemies
second is that the matriarch hawk is technically a different enemy from baboon hawks, their code probably only checks for the same enemy type when seeing what to not attack

[swift monolith]

Could u send the full Matriarch's bestiary entry then

I'm interested in reading it

[swift monolith]

Is this one of your entities btw?

There's an entity without a codename that's spectatable

[slim lagoon]

no, the only enemies in harvest moons are:
alpha, matriarch, aquatic leviathan, infested, pup
there are technically the temper enemy and watchman but temper enemy isn't registered as a custom enemy (modified prefab placed in scene) and the watchman was removed a really long time ago

[swift monolith]

j

[slim lagoon]

yeah i'll do that eventually but unity takes forever to open

[swift monolith]

Yipee

[swift monolith]

A stretch, but is the Matriarch's glowing eyes based off of Zeekerss' 2d depiction of baboon hawks?

[slim lagoon]

only inspiration for the matriarch hawk was scavengers from rain world for its spear

[slim lagoon]

this is the cost of testing

[lusty flame]

that's a lot of protein!

[swift monolith]

@slim lagoon What're the max spawns of the Matriarch, Tree Masked, Aquatic Leviathan, and Eyeless Pups, including their power levels

[slim lagoon]

matriarch max is 1 and power is 2, infested max is 10 and power is 2, aquatic leviathan max is 1 and power level is 4, pup max is 8 (will be 2 in next update) and power is 2

here's the matriarch entry by the way. lore is probably oudated and i will likely redo it eventually

[swift monolith]

Fuck 😭

I was gonna do an indoor Eyeless Pup gimmick for Refuge but the next update will fuck it over,,

[swift monolith]

Vain Tree?

[swift monolith]

Is the standalone blind pup able to override the moon's blind pup max spawned or will both be decreased to 2

[slim lagoon]

do you really want this happening

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1219708489086271568/1346170539911286935/MedalTVLethalCompany20250303121700-1741022324.mp4?ex=682a1703&is=6828c583&hm=23333ca57da50bf03c5cebd09d1b8f2923e8a74bf4ebc051685e34c5b843a57b&

[swift monolith]

Yes, really

No other entities will spawn indoors on Refuge and it will just be baby hell

[slim lagoon]

both will be decreased to 2 but they are TECHNICALLY different enemies so if you put them both on the same moon then they'd add up to a max of 4

[swift monolith]

Ig I'll do that then if they get decreased to 2

[slim lagoon]

anyways in the next update to harvest moons i will be adding the northern undead asylum from dark souls

[swift monolith]

lord

What's Sightless Alpha's max spawned and power level btw

I decided that I want him indoors on Barrens

Since most of the indoor natural entities spawn outside here lol

[slim lagoon]

1 max 4 power

[swift monolith]

Fat ass piece of shit taking up all mah powa

He needs to eat less

[swift monolith]

Are you aware that the Aquatic Leviathan lacks animations?

It doesn't bend at a curve while emerging

[inland leaf]

sorry i ate those food

[slim lagoon]

yes. unfixable i believe

[swift monolith]

I genuinely don't think eyeless pups need a nerf this heavy

At the worst, decrease the max spawn to 4 and/or the power level to 3

The moon I'm playing on rn /w 'em (Not via Imperium) hasn't ever gone unfairly

[merry jacinth]

I think they're incredibly interior dependant

they slow down scrap collecting to a halt most of the time, they force you to move around at snail's pace and on cramped interiors they just kinda ruin the whole round

like... mineshaft and tower are so terrible for pups

esp since they can hear you through floors on tower and can very easily catch you off guard and body block you on the tunels

[swift monolith]

Are you able to fix Tree Masked having Mask Fixes' tragedy masks?

[swift monolith]

Why doesn't Autumnis just

decrease their weight then

Eyeless Pups are REALLY fun in large numbers personally tbh

I'm on a moon rn that has a lot of them and I'm having a blast

This change would ruin the entity by a lot

[swift monolith]

@slim lagoon Hurting blind pups /w a shovel makes you unable to pick up anything afterwards

0196e594-18f5-e374-5a15-ee7ea1d84797

[slim lagoon]

no, or atleast probably not. i remove the masks of infested by changing the mesh and material to nothing if i remember correctly. i think mask fixes replaces the mesh and material again to make it a tragedy mask.

[swift monolith]

Js comedy trees don't appear btw

They're fine

It's just sometimes trees can have tragedies

[slim lagoon]

yes, because mask fixes has no reason to replace the mesh of something it doesn't need to replace

[slim lagoon]

can't recreate this with your modpack, though i added imperium if that matters

also got psychically attacked by seeing non-testing sierra

[swift monolith]

?

[swift monolith]

Imperium might fix it Idk

It's not an uncommon occurence because I had it happen even after restarting my game

Maybe you need to kill them, not just damage them

[slim lagoon]

i'm used to seeing sierra in testing after updating it so it felt strange seeing the released sierra

[slim lagoon]

this is what i did

[swift monolith]

Shrug

[slim lagoon]

tested it with a different mod and i could recreate it. on a different pack with just the released harvestmoons and that mod though, i couldn't, so i believe this is a mod conflict

[swift monolith]

Could you send me the code so I can find out which mod in it is causing the conflict

or is it just my code

[slim lagoon]

the other pack is a completely fresh profile with nothing but harvest moons and the dev mod

[scarlet owl]

Strange, never heard of attacking an enemy just causes the interact bug
I know Eyeless Dogs attacking you causes that bug, but that's only an issue if their attack DOESN'T kill you somehow

[swift monolith]

Are barbers hardcoded to spawn outside on Temper??

Oml they are..

Sentenced

[merry jacinth]

they are the moon's enemy gimmick

[inland leaf]

big boye'

[slim lagoon]

i'll maybe see if i can make that configurable but trying to make the dog and bird configurable has already rended my brain apart

[swift monolith]

Rend.... Rend...........

[slim lagoon]

also they're technically not hardCODED, they're just directly in the scene 😇

[swift monolith]

Oh that's how Retinue does it Ig

[slim lagoon]

retinue probably does it the smart way of using jll's enemy spawner but i'm not glowing enough in the brain to use that

[scarlet owl]

Ah that adding directly to the scene explains the big dog on Sierra as well come to think of it.

[slim lagoon]

yes the mod is still being worked on

i'm redoing the terrain of archaic though because it was really bad

[inland leaf]

was the terrain of archaic…

archaic?

[slim lagoon]

I Think I Forgot To Adjust The Lighting

[slim lagoon]

i'm just gonna make the radar maps static i don't care

[inland leaf]

based

[narrow wedge]

Having this error when starting up my modpack on V70:

[Info   :LethalLevelLoader] olympusscene.lethalbundle Loaded (51,46s)!
[15:27:16.4684147] [Info   :LethalLevelLoader] Finished Processing Bundles!
[15:27:16.4771530] [Info   :LethalLevelLoader] LethalBundleManger Recieved Group: Harvestmoons.lethalbundle
[15:27:16.4794134] [Info   :LethalLevelLoader] Found ExtendedMod: HarvestMoons
[15:27:16.4833718] [Error  :LethalLevelLoader] System.ArgumentException: extendedContent
Parameter name: SmallDogExtended (ExtendedEnemyType)  Could Not Be Registered To ExtendedMod: Harvest Moons Due To Failed Validation Check! EnemyPrefab Did Not Contain A Component Deriving From EnemyAI
  at LethalLevelLoader.ExtendedMod.TryThrowInvalidContentException (LethalLevelLoader.ExtendedContent extendedContent, System.ValueTuple`2[T1,T2] result) [0x00091] in ./Components/ExtendedContent/ExtendedMod.cs:222
  at LethalLevelLoader.ExtendedMod.RegisterExtendedContent (LethalLevelLoader.ExtendedEnemyType extendedEnemyType) [0x00000] in ./Components/ExtendedContent/ExtendedMod.cs:170
  at LethalLevelLoader.ExtendedMod.RegisterExtendedContent (LethalLevelLoader.ExtendedContent newExtendedContent) [0x0005d] in ./Components/ExtendedContent/ExtendedMod.cs:120
  at LethalLevelLoader.LethalBundleManager.RegisterExtendedMod (LethalLevelLoader.ExtendedMod extendedMod, LethalLevelLoader.AssetBundles.AssetBundleGroup source) [0x0023c] in ./AssetBundles/LethalBundleManager.cs:145
[15:27:16.5050950] [Info   :dev.ladyalice.dungenplus] Added DunGenExtender asset for AquaticDungeonFlow
[15:27:16.6045871] [Info   :LethalLevelLoader] LethalBundleManger Recieved Group: Aquarmoon.lethalbundle
[15:27:16.6045871] [Info   :LethalLevelLoader] Found ExtendedMod: ExtendedMod
[15:27:16.6249343] [Warning:dev.ladyalice.dungenplus] Already contains DunGenExtender asset for AquaticDungeonFlow
[15:27:16.7270389] [Info   :LethalLevelLoader] LethalBundleManger Recieved Group: Distinctmod.lethalbundle

[warped raven]

Yeah, this mod also breaks mirage. The error you sent might be the reason of why mirage is breaking.

[livid gale]

I believe its related to their mimic variant in the moon pack. V.70 broke it, which then results in it breaking other stuff. They are looking into it.

[lusty flame]

heyyyy so are harvest moons working in V70???

[faint wind]

No not atm

[lusty flame]

sad

i hope LQ doesn't break if i disable it

[amber bluff]

Wait what?
What's broken?

Why everything on v70 doesn't go right

[faint wind]

Harvest Moons break masked rn

[amber bluff]

Just maskeds?

As far as we know? Or is it all variants

Then I guess I have to readd LQ to get rid of them

[faint wind]

That won't work

it's not the custom masked variant that breaks, the moons error on launch and break all masked enemies along with some other enemies

you just can't use the moons

not til they're updated for V70

[amber bluff]

Fml

Why anything CAN'T go right

Fiend, LQ (at some point), harvest moons
Just wait til I get you zeekerss

[faint wind]

Since when do you like these moons anyways?

[amber bluff]

Because of the variety entities mostly

And I enjoyed fray

[faint wind]

You never talk about them like ever

lol

[amber bluff]

More than trite, I only dislike cambrian

Actually wait

I rather cambrain than trite
Cambrian at least has no turrets outside or bullshit hazards

[amber bluff]

Because those fits for my medium vanilla plus modpack along with generic moons

[slim lagoon]

they should add skeleton beasts from dark souls as a lethal company enemy

https://tenor.com/view/dark-souls-gif-24580984

[amber bluff]

Anything that would replace the fiend 😔🙏

[faint wind]

We need more unique enemies as a whole in terms of mods

[slim lagoon]

also yeah the mod will be updated eventually

eventually

[faint wind]

Honestly I haven't played Harvest Moons in ages so when you update it it might be a good excuse for me to rotate it back in for a bit

I've seen a lot of mod pack makers adding it so they can add the enemies to other moons too lol

[slim lagoon]

i'll probably just make an update without archaic to be honest so the mod works as i'm still having trouble making archaic be good

[faint wind]

New moon sounds sick though

I like the name

[amber bluff]

Same

[slim lagoon]

gotta import new stuff, add custom scrap, add enemy configs, fix the lack of dropship music and fix masks though

[amber bluff]

Fair enough

[slim lagoon]

honestly i don't care enough i'm just gonna remove infested for the update i don't have the will to import the new masked ai and see what that breaks

[slim lagoon]

man, these maple trees on adamance are so cool! i can't wait to add them to my moonsWrong

[merry jacinth]

kill zeekers

[amber bluff]

kill zeekers

[pale chasm]

hug zeekerss

[swift monolith]

What the fuck

Does Prominence use ||Bitter Aerie||'s ambience

The Rain World subregion from Rivuelt's campaign

[slim lagoon]

sierra, fray, cambrian, prominence and archaic use rain world sound effects as part of their ambience yeah

[swift monolith]

WWW

[wanton lichen]

Is it a known issue that temper doesn't load?

Every other moon is fine but Temper won't load even with every other mod disabled

Imperium also crashed but that's not the cause

I only installed it after discovering temper didn't work

[amber bluff]

Yes
Infested are broken atm

[merry jacinth]

Temper doesn't have the infested, that's Fray

[amber bluff]

Fray has matriarch hawk

What does temper have then

[merry jacinth]

Outside barbers

[merry jacinth]

Fray has Matriarchs and infested

[amber bluff]

am I fkin stupid then?

[merry jacinth]

no? lmao

[amber bluff]

thank God

thanks for clarification I guess
I've been on fray 2-3 times and on temper never

[slim lagoon]

known, mod is broken until i update it

[inland leaf]

autumnis the neverupdating

[slim lagoon]

i'd love to update my mod if there wasn't a program trying to kill me and everyone who works with it in the way

[inland leaf]

yeah i feel that

[slim lagoon]

Aweomse qUiz: How much power level is aquatic leviathan from cambrian

[stone bison]

quaqiatioc leviathna

[slim lagoon]

@inland leaf You dont get to guess you haven't played the mod

[inland leaf]

Haha heheouueougioo

wait its zero cus its a prefab isnt it

haha

i win

[wanton lichen]

Pretty crazy coincidence, I had to check this earlier today because I was messing with the spawn cap on cambrian

Since trying to do the water parkour at night is already difficult enough without modded monsters spawning

Especially modded giants 😨

[slim lagoon]

in the next update cambrian's power level will be reduced so only the aquatic leviathan can spawn

[wanton lichen]

I've never actually seen it tbh, I just know it exists

[scarlet owl]

The funniest moment when it came to Cambrian with a group was jumpscaring people with the worm

[slim lagoon]

the correct answer was a power level of 4

[slim lagoon]

Awesome QUiz 2: What moon will be add in next update

[merry jacinth]

i choose option 3

[slim lagoon]

You typed that while i was making the poll so i couldn't yell at you

[inland leaf]

its peenchaic

as we all knou

right bumtumnis?

[slim lagoon]

I was gobnna be like trick question: [link to new moon] and it was gonna be so awesome SAND THEN TERRAMESH DIED FOR SPECIFICALLY ONLY ME AND NOW I CAN'T FINISH THE MOON BECAUSE OF THAT

IT WAS GONNA BE SO AWESOME

wbhatever

[terse jasper]

Terramesh moment?????

[merry jacinth]

try asking in the thread I suppose

or just. recommend sponge

[slim lagoon]

I KNOW WHAT TO DO I'LL JUST MAKE A MOON THAT DOESN'T HAVE TERRAIN let's go asteroid 16 that's what wer'ere making harvest moons is NEVER updating

[slim lagoon]

apparently i really messed up prominence's bridges at some point so i gotta redo those (they won't have custom animations anymore because i really can't be bothered to make those work)

i am robably going to go to sleep and then Maybe work on harvest moons

[untold canyon]

Did that one harvest moon that didn't have enemies spawning inside ever get fixed?

[slim lagoon]

i'm not sure if that was ever actually real but probably

[merry jacinth]

wasn't it an issue on prominence mr tumnis?

[slim lagoon]

Harvest Moons (and other autumnis mods)

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Autumnis/355_Victory/

[untold canyon]

If I recall correctly, it was that moon that everything was tilted

that had the problems with enemies. Though I haven't installed your moon yet in my new pack so I'll have to check it out sometime today'

[slim lagoon]

the moons are broken and buggy in v70 i believe, i'll fix them Eventually

but once i update the mod that should be fixed

[untold canyon]

Im if I recall this was before v70. Like I had this problem months ago but I'm glad they are being fixed/checked on!

[blazing spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/sml-jeffy-back-from-the-dead-zombie-not-dead-gif-22083554

[winged spire]

I tried to land on Victory and the game immediately crashed, no info in the log. Is the Terrain Instanced?

[faint wind]

Let me see if this also repros on my end

Yep

it's brokey

@blazing spoke Did you have manage to test it earlier?

[blazing spoke]

yea. no crash.

[faint wind]

Huh, I wonder why it dies for me and DemonMae lol

[blazing spoke]

i only landed once

[faint wind]

Fair, and you also test in a nearly full vanilla profile so it's possible you were less prone to it crashing or maybe it's similar to what caused Tolian's moons to crash on land in the past

[blazing spoke]

shrug

[slim lagoon]

terrain is instanced yes, victory worked perfectly fine in my testing modpack. i didn't test it in any actual modpacks though

the only times i had it crash was my computer physically running out of memory since i had unity and modded lethal company open

[slim lagoon]

actually that's a lie i tested it in vodka's modpack which has like, 200 mods i think? there's nothing i changed after testing that could possibly cause it to only NOW crash in bigger modpacks

[winged spire]

Weird, don't know what else would cause a crash

[slim lagoon]

whatever it is it's not my problem until someone proves it is

[merry jacinth]

based and harvest pilled

yeah we tested with vodka's pack and didn't run into issues... I guess it'd be worth a try to hop on that pack again w the release version though

[inland leaf]

the curse of autumnis moons: something evil will happen and you wont know why

[blazing spoke]

i miss having boss variant monsters

[merry jacinth]

I mean they still there doe

[blazing spoke]

in Victory?

[merry jacinth]

I'm not sure what Victory could have as a boss monster

[merry jacinth]

No I mean like, they're still there on cambrian, sierra and fray

[desert laurel]

Giant 20 foot tall old bird

[merry jacinth]

That was my first idea but it would suuuuck

[desert laurel]

Giant 10 foot tall tulip snake

Has the power of 5 tulip snakes

[merry jacinth]

GIANT SPORE LIZARD

[blazing spoke]

giant Old Bird at the center of the crater. cant fly. slower walk cycle. can only turn, no walking.

[merry jacinth]

call it Lacertasaurus

[merry jacinth]

Keep in mind Autumnis doesn't modify the enemy's AI whatsoever, so it has to be quite simple

[desert laurel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1254571495167098941/1313681768574091275/copy_84877E2E-E21A-463A-AA2D-A728D047E8FE.gif

Me who had that in my concepts

[merry jacinth]

Aquatic Leviathan only doesn't attack you because the floor has a different tag than the surfaces covered in water I think?

[blazing spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/no-more-questions-just-do-it-americas-got-talent-agt-no-more-inquiries-just-do-it-gif-22700325

[merry jacinth]

Giant enemy spider?

but also TINY enemy spider....

[blazing spoke]

giant forest keeper. it's red. it eats other forest keepers. it can kick, jump, and stomp you as a OH KO. can call it something like "Redwood Titan" or something

[merry jacinth]

that sounds horrible, never cook again

||-# /j||

[upbeat knoll]

h

[blazing spoke]

h

[upbeat knoll]

arvest

https://cdn.steamusercontent.com/ugc/12033302617512112278/EFE8000E60BE342729BEFAE4D95901C0E7FF9E30/

here is the visual bugs i mentioned in another thread yesterday

forgot to post about it

[desert laurel]

What the fuck

[merry jacinth]

the fuck lmao

[slim lagoon]

old birds break completely if you modify them at all, even just placing them in the scene

[slim lagoon]

what the fuck???????????????????????????????????????

i've got no idea what this is

i guess i'll

attempt

to look into it?

also forgot how ugly victory looks without lethal sponge 💔

[inland leaf]

LMAO ARE THE BUSHES FUCKING BILLBOARDED

[upbeat knoll]

same

its on my small testing profile too so

my first thought is maybe a weird imperium visual bug? ill do a bit of quick testing my self

[upbeat knoll]

what is lethal sponge vro 🥀

appears imperium was the cause

how? i have no idea

[merry jacinth]

love imperium breaking randomly

so silly

[merry jacinth]

lethalsponge is a mod that redoes the shader in a way that you don't need to have your unity terrain turn to mesh to have the post processing and fog apply to it

basically makes non-meshified moons look meshy

thats what most people use it for

it's also a performance mod technically

[compact forge]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Scoops/LethalSponge/

[upbeat knoll]

i just checked and i have that on my main profile

i just forgot about ity

teeheee

[amber bluff]

Vro doesn't know what lethalsponge is in big 2025-and-a-half 🥀

brazy 😔

[inland leaf]

ive decided from now on that we will now all call it lethal spingle

do not try and fight it

thats its name now

[amber bluff]

JacuJ-ass name

but okay

[brave ledge]

I'm late to the party but i tested Victory in my modpack with 140+ mods and it worked fine.

Tested multiple rounds too.

[faint wind]

I wonder if this stuff relates to why it crashed on land for me and DemonMae without Lethal Sponge

With sponge's shader off it dies for me

but works with it on

[faint wind]

Nvm you said Imperium caused it

[marble storm]

when is temper going to be fixed?

[slim lagoon]

before v70 i was making a mod that added a copy of the vanilla facility but with new rooms added

was fun to work on but it died very early

[wanton lichen]

Honestly that's really cool, I'd love to see more mods that alter/replace the vanilla interiors

[merry jacinth]

I still think you should go through with it

there's no reason why we can't have two facility variations

[granite kite]

Would be cool to have 2 variants with equal chances

[desert laurel]

^

[merry jacinth]

I even saw a mod idea that was quite literally this

People want this

[slim lagoon]

oh my god i haven't updated harvest moons since before wesley's moons initial update that added progression

i oughta get to updating it

[untold canyon]

FINALLY

I'm only joking lol. I'm glad they are getting updated though!

[lusty flame]

well im not joking, we get the update or i call beanie

https://tenor.com/view/rigby-freaky-cat-cat-meme-tongue-out-gif-1492882876567450372

[inland leaf]

hi who called me on the bean-o-phone

was it you?

[lusty flame]

not yet Beanie, your arrival will be necessary once its needed

for now rest

[inland leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-leaving-leave-oops-bye-gif-17519616

[slim lagoon]

blind pups are fixed

i also seperated the moon bundles for optimization (this has doubled the size of harvest moons though which hopefully i will find a way to fix)

[slim lagoon]

update to their standalone version will be uploaded eventually but i am experimenting with registering them via code rebirth lib so they have a config

[faint wind]

Did you also Terramesh Victory? That should fix the crashing issues

[slim lagoon]

i can't, terramesh does not work in my unity project

[faint wind]

Beanie did that for Solitude to fix it

Odd

Did you check if it just requires you to change a few settings in the project?

[slim lagoon]

no, and to be honest i'd rather just have lethal sponge as a requirement than figure out what exactly is wrong with terramesh
my best guess is an incompatibility with a different tool i use on archaic, but alot of archaic is built around having this tool, and there's not much i can do since terramesh's dev isn't active anymore

[wanton lichen]

For the standalone ver or for HarvestMoons?

[merry jacinth]

read a little bit below that

[wanton lichen]

Ah mb, still half asleep

[merry jacinth]

lol all good

[marble storm]

[15:58:57.3303596] [Info   :LethalLevelLoader] Found ExtendedMod: HarvestMoons
[15:58:57.3343608] [Error  :LethalLevelLoader] System.ArgumentException: extendedContent
Parameter name: SmallDogExtended (ExtendedEnemyType)  Could Not Be Registered To ExtendedMod: Harvest Moons Due To Failed Validation Check! EnemyPrefab Did Not Contain A Component Deriving From EnemyAI
  at LethalLevelLoader.ExtendedMod.TryThrowInvalidContentException (LethalLevelLoader.ExtendedContent extendedContent, System.ValueTuple`2[T1,T2] result) [0x00091] in ./Components/ExtendedContent/ExtendedMod.cs:222 
  at LethalLevelLoader.ExtendedMod.RegisterExtendedContent (LethalLevelLoader.ExtendedEnemyType extendedEnemyType) [0x00000] in ./Components/ExtendedContent/ExtendedMod.cs:170 
  at LethalLevelLoader.ExtendedMod.RegisterExtendedContent (LethalLevelLoader.ExtendedContent newExtendedContent) [0x0005d] in ./Components/ExtendedContent/ExtendedMod.cs:120 
  at LethalLevelLoader.LethalBundleManager.RegisterExtendedMod (LethalLevelLoader.ExtendedMod extendedMod, LethalLevelLoader.AssetBundles.AssetBundleGroup source) [0x0023c] in ./AssetBundles/LethalBundleManager.cs:145

Is this going to be fixed?

[slim lagoon]

scroll up

[marble storm]

this?

[slim lagoon]

yes

[marble storm]

oh

and it's uploaded?

[stone bison]

scroll up

[marble storm]

oh 😭

[slim lagoon]

according to my to-do list (incredibly vague and usually missing important things) i just need to add an elevator to prominence and the update should maybe be ready?

[brave ledge]

Average day at the company.

[merry jacinth]

harvest moons!!!!

[slim lagoon]

we're adding the entirety of deltarune to harvest moons thatts right

bit of Lore for those who care

[slim lagoon]

fixed the sky on my moons so it actually darkens at night, try to guess which moon this is

[floral acorn]

cambrian?

okay i can't tell from the ground

fuuuuck!

[sharp dagger]

Deltarun;e HARVEST MOOns will be real LETS GO

[merry jacinth]

it's victory

[slim lagoon]

CORRECT

NOW DIE.

[inland leaf]

squidtory

full of

squod

[slim lagoon]

Fuck it slap a mineshaft elevator on and make sure it doesn't crash and release it

[slim lagoon]

FUCK I HAVE TO MAKE THE CONFIGS WORK

[formal mural]

when i use harvestmoons it seems to prevent imperium from starting, giving this message

[wanton lichen]

Yeah it's because some of the monsters are broken rn afaik

Should be fixed when the mod updates?

[formal mural]

i see

[slim lagoon]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Beaniebe/Deepcore_Mines

deep core mine

[formal mural]

it randomly decided to work with zero changed the next day i don't think it was harvest moons after all

https://tenor.com/view/steamhappy-flag-steamhappy-flag-gif-5130275912006277446

[formal mural]

btw what is the area behind the crater on victory for

• do enemies spawn there

[merry jacinth]

behind the ship?

[formal mural]

ya

[compact forge]

oh you know

[formal mural]

I don't know 😔

[compact forge]

https://tenor.com/view/we-dont-know-dont-know-bird-clueless-gif-12587825

[lusty flame]

https://tenor.com/view/riddler-paul-dano-new-rockstars-thumbnail-does-he-know-he-doesnt-know-gif-27552850

[formal mural]

I'm not those who know 💔💔

[compact forge]

those who nose 💔 💔

[inland leaf]

grows too flows 💔

[floral acorn]

throws through thoughs 💔

[inland leaf]

sows those ploughs 💔

[slim lagoon]

so there isn't a drop into the void behind the ship

[formal mural]

makes cents

[wanton lichen]

Is Sierra's spawn curve being fixed in the new update? Haven't tested standalone but having night monsters constantly spawn at 9am

[slim lagoon]

if you mean the sightless alpha, that's intentional. i haven't seen actual night enemies spawn that early

[wanton lichen]

In that case the issue might be something else in my pack, but Sierra was constantly spawning night monsters after 9am

As in regular dogs, baboon hawks and modded ones like tourists

I've had similar issues on a few other modded moons so I assumed it was something broken by v70 but could be wrong

I'll look into it, dw about it if you can't recreate the issue with just Harvest Moons

[slim lagoon]

i'd love to test it but my computer isn't working so i've been fixing it the past few days

[wanton lichen]

So I tried to test it outside of the modpack and got unbearable lag from Blind Pups being broken

Didn't have that issue before (presumably fixed by a performance mod) but could it be related?

[inland leaf]

i think like

most of harvest moons and blind pups are absolutely broken rn

and it makes them unplayable

we need you autumnis

[lusty flame]

Yes

[formal mural]

wait so if i used something like LQ to remove the blind pups, harvest moons would not have the severe lag?

[inland leaf]

nope

im pretty sure

some moons still have issues

due to the prefab enemies

i thinksy

[formal mural]

oh

i'm only looking to use two of the moons, would the prefab lag would this cause problems upon landing while the blind pups only would once they spawn?

[inland leaf]

no clue...

[slim lagoon]

played nine sols recently it was pretty good

[scarlet owl]

ayy I should get on that too

Been sitting in my library

[eager grove]

@slim lagoon are you still ever able to make that config for sierra and fray

its been a while and the mod still hasnt been updated

i completely forgot about my modpack cuz i was waiting on if that was possible

cuz i still dont want the matriarch and alpha to autospawn

[wanton lichen]

Snowy Cambrian looks really cool icl

[merry jacinth]

OH THAT'S SIIICK

[amber bluff]

is that "White" weather?

[lusty flame]

Thats Trite weather

[amber bluff]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/807809192537882647/1023257725821534324/29B137A0-B2CA-4BD3-A92E-542BCC35BEED.gif

[lusty flame]

https://tenor.com/view/shawn-breezy-cat-kill-first-gif-2386988295549093398

[slim lagoon]

some moon ideas i've had that i'll probably make either as or after i finish harvest moons

[merry jacinth]

old sierra

[lusty flame]

Examination

[wanton lichen]

Panoramic sounds cool, like a dark moon with a huge rotating floodlight?

[lusty flame]

Science bird tweaks

[wanton lichen]

I was thinking that lol

Rotating floodlight makes blackout so much more interesting

[lusty flame]

YESS

I wish it had an option to only activate in blackout

[scarlet owl]

Hands down Cambrian's my favorite with Snowy/Ice, being able to slide everywhere on the ice to main/exits while avoiding the giga worm is funny

[slim lagoon]

thinking about it, icy cambrian could be canon because cambrian has a wacky orbit so you could be going to it when it's far from the sun

[merry jacinth]

oh that's sick as fuck

[amber bluff]

"We're going to raid the sun"
"Silly, you can't raid the sun, even at night"
"Don't worry! We'll be raiding it at summer"

[slim lagoon]

Update: Victory now has a small but cangerous ecosystem

[inland leaf]

now fix everything

im not talking about mods btw

im talking about the world as a whole

fix my marriage

fix world conflicts

fix the trout population

[untold canyon]

Fix the ever increasing time between vanilla LC updates

[inland leaf]

true

[slim lagoon]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Autumnis/355_Victory/versions/

[merry jacinth]

fuck ueah...

[slim lagoon]

harvest moons will update eventually i think the main thing delaying it is not knowing how to make a config (JLL Has No Documentation)

[maiden halo]

oh man, the classic

i asked the genrick how to make one

[inland leaf]

jacob should really add a small bit of documentation